Hey ChatGPT, Summarize Google I/O

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47:23was Tuesday. This was arguably, in my most humble opinion, because I'm the humblest person on this podcast in this current moment. Nice. Correct. No, I'm... Anyway, one of the most soulless Google IOs I have ever watched I was thinking about this this morning I was like remember when Google IO was Sergey Brin jumping out of a helicopter with Google Glass on and landing in San Francisco live and then we got Project Aura which was the modular smartphone with all the bits and peets I mean we got i.o announcement we got like project loon which was like bringing internet to like random countries are all these things that you said so far dead yeah yeah it's still it's still fun at i.o though yeah like i remember being like was last year starlet starlines starline we at least got that yeah i just remember being like in in high school and being like wow google is such a cool company.

48:30I'm so I want to work there so I wanted to work there so bad I was like everything they do is just a moonshot idea. It might not work out but it doesn't matter because it's all funded by search which is cool. It's like they have an infinite money machine that keeps turning and because of that they can just do whatever the heck they want and this year it kind of felt like they were pivoting to be a B2B company. I'm not going to lie. They talked about AI models constantly. They talked about the price that are charging developers to access their AI models which is something Microsoft would do, which is something OpenAI would do.

49:01But that is not something that Google used to do at Google I.O. Yeah, I.O.'s change. I.O.'s definitely change. This year felt like a pivot. It felt like, do you know the part in every I.O. where they talk about all their servers and TPUs and all that and there's that exact same graphic every single year? First of all, that graphic got used probably 45 times. Whoever made that is not getting paid enough for how much they use the likeness of it. But it felt like that like end 25 minutes of every io where you're like all right all the cool stuff happens like what are we getting out of there that felt like the entire event it was like the most low energy io i've ever seen i mean i've only been here covering it for like seven years but just all the things nothing they announced had this like real wow factor there was very few times where my twitter timeline was all like this is so cool they just announced this like Nobody really had that one thing where it was real.

49:57And we've had last year, Visualize Roots on Maps was this really cool visual example. We've had the chain link fence that I reference all the time. Yes, there are things that did not come out. That was IO, yeah. That was IO. But it was cool, and it had that wow moment. The crowd seemed out of it this year. Almost all of the announcers, I felt just also felt low energy, except for Samir. He did a great job and felt as high energy as normal. But I don't know. And the whole event felt like it was dragging from the first terrible Taylor Swift joke they made in like the first one minute. And then they proceeded to make a bunch of other bad Taylor Swift jokes that really felt like Gemini wrote it.

50:35But yeah. This might be a silly question because I didn't watch it. When you said Samir, do you mean like from YouTube? No. The Android. I'm forgetting. Yeah. The guy from Android and what was a bummer was he was basically like new things coming to Android and then just had to say the exact same Gemini things just in like basically a mobile version. Samir Samad he's the president of Android ecosystem and he had his like same energy which just made all of the presenters around him feel low energy everyone felt really well I don't know what that what was going on but it felt low energy I think a perfect way to wrap up kind of that we weren't the same people feeling this is Ben at nine to five Google posted a title an article this morning that said so Google made a 10 minute recap and his article says Google's 10 minute IO recap is somehow just as tedious as the full event and io usually isn't tedious until the last like 20 to 30 minutes like it's usually like cool cool cool wow i didn't even think of the fact that you could do that with machine learning wow you can get rid of a chain link fence you can't but still like all of this stuff that genuinely blew my mind that i feel like we also used to see when every pixel would drop yeah there would always be one or two cool ai features that were like wow this is i'm so excited for this year and there was almost not there was like a couple things that were like i'm glad gemini is doing that now i can name like three which we'll get into which we'll get into but everything else felt really corporate it felt b2b which was really weird it is surprising to me because they also made the distinct choice to separate the pixel 8a announcement out of io right so we had a separate pixel 8a happen before like a week two weeks before io yeah and then to To me, that was like, oh, IOs stacked this year.

52:17We don't even have room for the Pixel 8a. It was not. And so that's why it's surprising. And I, a lot of people say on Twitter that like, oh, it's just because there's not a lot of hardware stuff, that's tomorrow. But like, they have done cool, visually interesting things software-wise before and with AI before. That's not the reason. It was just not a good IO this year. But I want to do two cool things about it while we then will continue to be mean about it for the rest of this episode. I'm sad we didn't go because Google I.O. swag is always fantastic. And the swag they had this year looked great.

52:52I posted some photos of it. So, like, I think they did a great design this year. The tote looks awesome. The crew neck looks awesome. The water bottle sick. I'm really sad we missed that. I'm sad if that's the most exciting part. Well, no, the most exciting part was Marc Rebier opening as the DJ. He did a fantastic job. If anything, his vibes are too immaculate that everything after him feels boring. He tried to do what he always does at the beginning of shows, and he was just trying to bring his same energy. And I texted him afterwards. I'm like, bro, I'm so sorry you had to deal with that crowd.

53:23He was like, I did what I could. My favorite part is that, again, as an American, units of measurement really confuse me. And so when they measured Gemini's contextual ability in... Tokens. No, in number of Cheesecake Factory menus worth of words. Oh, right. I was like, the Gemini can hold 95 Cheesecake Factory menus worth of context at one time. Wait, that's it? That seems like... Bro, have you been to the Cheesecake Factory? I've never been to the Cheesecake Factory. Is the menu really big? It's a book. It's a book. Adam could have a book club that no one would join him with. I need to go to a restaurant that has like three options.

54:00I don't want, I don't want to never go to the cheese menu for three weeks now. I'm on the 70th page. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So besides Mark's immaculate entrance in which he had a, for viewers that, and listeners that don't know who Mark is, he's like, he makes music on the spot sort of person. And they had him use the music LM thing to try to like generate music and then play with it. He's like an improv genius. Yeah. He's an improv genius. It was very tough because the crowd was tough. The music LM didn't work that well. And the beats that it was giving him were not that funky. A lot of problems.

54:37He wears a lot of robes. They had custom Google I.O. Mark Rebier robes. And he shot them out of a cannon. And then Sundar came on stage and the energy went boom into the ground. Okay. So there were actually some interesting things. And they actually did start off with a couple pretty interesting things. they started off with which with what i think was one of the most interesting things which was an update to google photos where now you can just contextually ask google photos to show you certain pictures and also ask questions about your photos uh so you can say and i actually used google photos to find my license plate a million times last year that's so funny yeah i've never done now in google photos you now i memorize my license plate but in google photos you can now say what's my license plate number again and it'll bring up pictures of your license plate yeah which is cool you can say show me lucia's how lucia's swimming has progressed and it'll bring up a bunch of photos and videos you took of your daughter swimming so it can understand the context of okay this is what you're asking and then map that to what it tagged the photos as of being and i think that's actually really sick i do think the license plate example was perfect because they were like, normally you would just search license plate and now every license plate.

55:56You get every car you've ever taken a photo of shows up. And then you say my license plate number. It's like, oh, this is a car that I see pretty often. So it must be your license plate. Let me find one picture that has it and only show you that one picture so you don't have to scroll through a bunch. That's cool. Yeah, I like this. And I think because the results are specifically pulling from your photos, it can avoid hallucinating. because it's going to give you the exact source. It also, because, yeah, it just has to show you an image. It's not generating something. Because before, like, so if I wanted to find my license plate, like, I had this actually, for example, I was in the back of a car, and I was going to go to the airport, and they're like, I just need your passport number and your signature.

56:36And I was like, okay, here's my signature. What is, I don't have my, it's in the trunk, but I just pulled up Google Photos, and I just searched passport, and I got the latest photo that I took of my passport, and I just got it from there. Instead, theoretically, I would just ask Google Photos, what's my passport number? and it would give me my passport number. And as long as I also can see that it's referencing an image of my passport and not some other random photo I have of a passport, I think I'm good. It doesn't give you a text output. It just shows you the photo. The one picture. So I think that actually solves the issue.

57:07I think you could probably ask Gemini at some point, what's my passport number? And it would pull it up and then it would probably potentially reference the photo. But right now, this Google Photos update, it's just an easier way to ask Google Photos to show you specific pictures. That's neat. It kind of feels like... Which I like more than generative AI. No, I agree. It feels like the magic of what Google Search has been, where everyone makes the joke of like, what's that song that goes bah, bah, bah, bah, bah? It's like, you can ask it some pretty crazy questions. And now in Google Photos, you can just be way more specific and it can find things easier for you.

57:40And Google Photos Search has always been one of my favorite features ever. Just like being able to search through different things and it can tell kind of what they are and create albums or look at places that you've been to. And now being able to go a little more into that where maybe I'm like, what was that trail I hiked in Glacier National Park in 2019? And like, if I took a picture of the trail sign, it'll probably come up as like Cracker Lake Trail. And then that's awesome. And I don't have to just search through every single thing that was in Montana. Yeah, I often will think, oh yeah, I went on that trip.

58:14I think it was in 2019. So I'll search like mountains 2019. and I have to sort through all the mountains that I took a picture of in 2019 until I find it. Maybe it's not that year, so now I can ask it, show me the mountains when I was in Italy the last time. And yeah, it can still do sort of those things right now, but it's just a lot more contextual, which is beneficial. It's helping, because a lot of people didn't even know. You could search Google Photos for things and it would find them very specifically, so it's just making this prompt engineering less of a skill. You just type what you're thinking and it can find it.

58:46Which is why I think they specifically use the prompt, what's my license plate number again? Because it sounds more human. Like the way that I would probably prompt that is my license plate. And it would bring it up, you know. Whereas a normal person says, what's my license plate number again? Because I think the ultimate goal is like be able to have natural speech computing with these computers. With every prompt. Yeah. I think our generation grew up learning how to speak Google, which is keyword. It's a keyword language. you have to know how to google and you're basically just picking out keywords we've talked about this like prompt engineering is the skill that we all learned yeah and now it's it wants the old people and the young ironed out to be able to do it where young people just go like write me some code and it just does it yeah you just don't have to know how to do it right there's a lot of other stuff so we're just gonna go through it a little bit randomly i kind of went linearly through the keynote so if it jumps around a little bit that's google's fault no one remembers is exactly how the keynote went.

59:46So everyone probably disagrees. Did the AI hallucinate that? OK. Google search generative experience, which was a Google Labs feature that you could opt into for the last year since Google I.O. 2023, which I have been opted into for a while and has annoyed the heck out of me. I've been using it as well. Yeah. I had an example recently where the AI thing gave me one answer, and then the top suggested Google thing told me a different answer. Yeah. Sounds great. Yeah. Yeah, so that was an opt-in feature that I forgot was opt-in because I would have turned it off a long time ago if I remembered that.

1:00:18It is now rolling out for everybody. And it also now generates a bunch of extra information and tiles and pages for you. And in my opinion, it was a very bad look because basically the entire visible screen was all generative AI. And I didn't see any links anywhere. Yeah. which is bad. Yeah, it was basically like creating a bunch of almost like Windows 8 tiles of like all potentially different things you might want, whether it's the sale link for something with prices or the reviews of a restaurant, just like all in these different tiles and you didn't see a single link on the page. I also just want to like paint Mark has the picture of...

1:01:31when they announced it, they're going to change how this looks and then they just didn't yeah um i think they're trying to completely reframe in your mind what it means to search something now you they don't want you to have to search something and then find the information yourself and actually what they kept saying over and over again was let google do the googling for you which was super weird it's like so like never leave google it's yeah it was basic because i think that what they were afraid of is a lot of people use ChatGPT as a search engine even though it's not a search engine. I've heard crazier things.

1:02:08Yeah. You know how many people use TikTok as a search engine? A lot of people. More than you would? I mean it's like using, I use YouTube as a search engine because it's better. YouTube's the second largest search engine in the world. Yeah I like watching videos of people answering my questions and doing things specifically. I like people dancing to my questions. This is how you change a time. Forget Quorum. dances yeah yeah that that feels like a big part of it is is google has historically been kicking people into links and then they leave google and they go find their answer somewhere else yeah but if google can just like siphon all the content out and service the thing that you were looking for in the first place then google helped you not the site yeah and then that site never gets any credit even though the site is the one that had the information which i just want to point to the fact that like not that long ago like two to three years ago google got in serious trouble for like scraping some information and putting it on the sidebar of google just saying like these sites say this this this and everybody freaked out and then google got in trouble for it and now they're just completely siphoning away sites altogether to the point where there is now a button called web so you know how when you google something it'll be like images videos news there is now going to be a button called web where you press the web button and it actually shows you the link Oh wait it wasn't a scroll away before?

1:03:31Uh you probably can keep scrolling but there's so many things there but like do you know how they're yeah there's shopping maps photos now there's one that's web so it's only web links and I hate to say I'm excited for this because Google search has become such a pain in the ass that I like just want to look at different links. It basically gets rid of everything that Google has added in the last five years. It's just it's like old Google. It's the opt-out of the Reddit redesign for google yeah yeah uh that's hilarious that i find that hilarious somebody tweeted uh that that's the funniest april fools joke that google has done um yeah it yeah it's just a weird thing um neilai from the verge refers to this whole redesign as google day zero which is basically like what happens when a search is just a generated like everything is generated and there is just zero incentive to go to websites like we've talked about this forever because we always were like this is eventually going to become the thing and currently right now because they haven't like fully rolled out this thing it'll give the little generative ai preview but you still have links but most of the examples that they showed at I.O.

1:04:49were like the full page was generated. And once you hit a point where the full page is generated, that's when you start to hit the existential thread of like how are websites gonna make money anymore. Yeah, this is again why I think this LLM stuff needs fact checking built in. I just Googled it real quick. Google's mission statement is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. and if you think about it if you're google yeah for years and years and years you've been collecting and organizing all of these links and then people go to you and they say i want to know where this thing is on the internet and then you show them the list and then they leave and you've been doing that for so so long you have all this information if you're google probably what seems like a natural graduation is, all right, the internet, it's here.

1:05:43It is what it is. It's this giant thing. Now we can do is learn all of it, summarize it all for ourselves. And now when you ask me a question, I can just reference it and hand you exactly the information you need. And you never even have to go through that mess of links ever again. People will just, this is a crazy statement. Kids will not really learn the skill of navigating through search results yeah not at all that's another thing that they won't really that's also scary because that makes me think that kids are just going to believe the first thing they see which is made by a generative ai and that's why you need it to be fact checkable it needs to be verifying itself because yeah the skill still of like seeing the google it button and going yeah i'm gonna verify this one and like looking through the results that's still a skill that we have but if you never have that skill and you just go to google the thing and it just surfaces the thing you just believe it that could be pretty dangerous here's a question for everyone just on topic of this when's the last time you went to the second page of a google search all the time i do it all the time i go it's pretty you know you're in for one i do yeah it's like 50 of the time yeah 50 of the time i wouldn't say i wouldn't say for me but when i'm doing research i go through like five pages i got a long tail i get a lot of stuff on the first page but then every once in a while i get something on the like 36th page that's it's wild that there's probably people who don't realize that there's like the 10 and then like it keeps going after that yeah it keeps going quick question marquez with what you were saying isn't that the best well i guess user experience customer ui in theory it is if it's correct yeah and who's gonna write content this is if you have a magic box that tells you all the answers nobody can make the content that is scraping from this is the we've been talking about this for months i know that's the problem that's the fun part but i mean thought about this does the incentive to create content could disappear completely when you don't get going to websites and they don't make any ad revenue then yeah is then things go under is the fastest way also the best way for consumers like yeah you'll get the information faster because you don't have to click through websites but sometimes i think it's i think it's also a what about the journey i think there's also a tale to this where like at first the fastest way is best But then when it gets to a more in-depth, like think of someone who's about to buy something.

1:08:02Yeah, exactly. Like if you're, I'm about to make a big purchase, I'm going to buy a laptop. Real quick, if I just Google like, what are some good laptops for$1 ,000? Yeah. Then I just set my frame for the first page. But then on the second or third weekend where I'm like, I'm about to spend the money now, I'm going to really dive in. No, there's like something I Google almost every week. Chicken drumsticks, oven temp time. don't need don't need more than 15 seconds for that one you know what i mean but yeah like if i if i want if i wanted to go on a little little internet journey i think there's times though when also you don't have time for the journey if that makes sense like chicken drumsticks time like i'm hungry i think about the time i was out and claire calls me and it's like a pipe burst in the downstairs and we need something what do we do with it and i just ran to lows and i was like what's the best thing and instead i'm sitting there where like I wish it could just be like is it a small leak?

1:08:55Is it this? And it'll give me that temporary fix right there and I don't have to go through 20 pages inside of Lowe's while my basement's floating. I think there's some fast things where that is the ideal scenario. But yes, the journey sometimes is fun because you learn about things on the journey that turns into actual usable information in your own brain that we get to use. Imagine that. Imagine that. Imagine experiences. We gotta move on because there's so much there's so much stuff um okay gemini 1.5 pro which you and i have been beta testing for what feels like months yeah at this point they doubled the context window to two million tokens uh and now they're just spouting millions of cheesecake factory menus yeah they're just flexing on every single other company that they have the most tokens which yay wow i still don't understand tokens tokens at all they're v bucks a word is like a token it's like tokenization of a word so you can map it to other...

1:09:50And they just cost money? Transformers, transformers, transformers, because people make fun of me for saying that a lot. They cost power, which costs money. They cost power, which costs money. They're called tokens because it's the smallest you... And this is the dumbest possible way of explaining it, but it's the smallest you can break down a piece of information in a data set to then have it be evaluated across the parameters you set. And mapped to every other token. Exactly. So in a sentence, you would break down each word into a token and then analyze those words as independent variables. Yeah, it's tokenization, because you're splitting it up.

1:10:22In an image, a pixel could be a token, or a cluster of pixels could be a token. Okay, so then, quick question. When they say two million tokens, do they mean that I can do a two million word? Yes. Okay, got it. Oh, so it's per individual query, it can take up to two million tokens? Yes, yes. Okay. That's the context. So the context window is basically like, how much information can I throw at this? because theoretically in these models, the more information you give it, the more accurate they can be. Okay, okay. Remember the dolly prompts that were like, give me a man in an astronaut suit with a red handkerchief around his neck.

1:10:56It was like, be more specific. You can just keep going. Okay. Right. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Now they are also embedding Gemini into a lot of Google Workspace stuff. So you can have Gemini as like an additional person in your meeting that's like taking notes for you and you can interact with during Google Meet meetings. They should call it GoPilot. Why? Because it's Google. It's like CoPilot, but Google. Oh, come on. Was it that bad? No, it's not as good as... I'm picturing I'm killed by Google website in like three months. Yeah. Sorry, that just reminded me. What did Mark call music... Goops? Oh, yeah.

1:11:35Google Loops. Gloops. Gloops. Yeah, yeah. He called it Gloops at one point. Yeah, which they should use. It was the best part of Aya. Yeah. they introduced a new model called Gemini 1.5 Flash which is a lighter weight, faster, cheaper model that handles lighter weight queries hooray Microsoft is so scared we got Project Astra is what I think is basically their answer to the humane and rabbit thing except it's better because we always knew it would be the demo they showed the demo they showed was basically on a pixel it has a live feed of your surroundings so on humane or rabbit you have to take a photo and then it analyzes the photo and talks about it on this one it was basically a real time image intake where it was taking in a video feed with this person walking around with their pixel and they could just be like they were just kind of like what does this code do and it'd be like oh it does this this okay cool uh well what what what where can i buy this teddy bear oh the teddy bear It can be bought on Amazon for$14 ,900.

1:12:39Cool, cool, cool. Over here. And then they did this casual thing where they like switched to these smart glasses that had cameras on them. Which is also strange because they were like, where did I leave my glasses? And they remembered where, but they never showed it in that initial feed. So are they remembering it previously? So here was the weird thing. Yeah, they said like, where did I leave my glasses? I was like, it's on the side table. It only knew that because the person was walking around with their Pixel camera open like for five minutes. and it happened to see it in the corner while they were walking around.

1:13:11Obviously, in the real world, I think this was basically the same thing where it's like in the far off future, if you had a humane AI pin that was constantly taking in all of your video feed information all the time, it would always know where you left all your stuff because it was constantly watching, which nobody wants. So that's fun. But the convenience, though. Think of the convenience. Yeah. The storage. Yeah. Remembering everything all of that time. No, it's Google. just put it on their servers yeah throw it on youtube so i think this is just a demo to show that yeah they they can do what humane and rabbit are doing but way faster and way better and it's a video feed instead of a phone and because it's the live video feed they also did this thing where it's like you could draw in the video feed and be like what is this thing and like an arrow to it so if like for some reason you can't just describe the thing in the viewfinder as well you can it's basically circled a search through live multimodal yeah like which is something that open ai was basically demoing too on the day um because you could point your you could point your phone at things and it would help you through math problems as you were solving it yeah so it was cool uh they didn't talk about you know if it's ever going to come to anything ever they just demoed it right they said it was a project kind of like those like translation glasses that just never became a thing and I think they were trying to make like a nod to those by saying like yeah we've got we're working on stuff but they're probably never going to release anything it kind of also made me feel like because this was just like another blip on the radar during all of io made me kind of feel like the humane pin and the rabbit pin needed to make the hardware versions because everyone just like kind of moved right past this even though it's doing the exact same things better than both of those but since they're not a shiny product uh-huh everyone's like cool it's just something an io they were basically like yeah you can do this on a phone moving on better yeah i don't think about you child's play yeah yeah yeah all right so that was already a lot um there's a lot more google io stuff uh either you're welcome or i'm sorry or you're not reading all that or not listening to all that but we got to do trivia because that'll help your brain break up this episode so hey what is this is it some purpose it is yeah i tried to use google's music fx to recreate our normal trivia music um it's funky it got none of the things i put in my prompt in here like not a single one oh i guess i asked for drums terrible sounds like is that drums or snapping i asked for six seconds of interstitial music intended to transition from the main segment of a podcast or the trivia segment that happens before an ad break.

1:15:50I kind of like it anyway. The track should feature a Hammond organ and drums and be bright, punchy, and fun. That's not wrong. I would say bright, punchy, and fun. Yeah, but where's the organ? Where's the six seconds part? Well, let's chill out a little bit. Give it a chance. This is Google, small startup company. I was wondering. He told me earlier, like, let me handle the trivia music, and I got something cooked up, and I was like, what is he going to do? And now we know. All right, second trivia question. so a bunch of people were talking about how the open AI voice sounded like Scarlett Johansson in the movie Her like David mentioned what was the name of the AI that she voiced in that movie I don't watch movies well you guys are gonna get some points yeah it's been a while since I've seen this film so much for that I've never even heard of that movie what?

1:16:43you're serious right now? Go home. We can't tell Andrew anything about this movie. We have to get through the trivia answers and not spoil a single thing. And then, Andrew, you need to go home and you need to watch her. No.

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1:18:21See a Lowe's Red Vest Associate or visit lowes.com slash holiday install to get started. Lowe's. We help you save. basic install only date restrictions apply subject to availability installed by independent contractors see associate for details contiguous us only uh okay notebook lm which used to be called project tailwind which adam was particularly excited about it's now more focused towards education but effectively it can take in information from your google drive like photos and documents and videos and basically create like a model of these ais that can help you with specific things related to your specific information and the way that they showed it was basically a live podcast um where they had these two virtual tutors they were kind of like both talking separately being like okay jimmy so we're gonna be talking about gravity today so you know how something's 1.9.8 meters per second and then the other ai would squared and the other ai would be like not only is it that but if you dropped an apple it would drop at the same speed as a rock um and then you can like call in almost and then ask then you become the new member of this conversation ask it questions and they'll respond to you yeah it was some virtual tutors and they were very realistic very similarly to open ai's 4.0 model that felt very realistic i felt like this week is the week where all of the companies were like we are no longer robotic we have can have humanoid like voices that talk in humanoid like ways great so that was interesting okay uh I would actually love to play with that to see if it's any good.

1:19:55It was kind of cool that there was like two virtual AIs that were sort of like talking to you at the same time, but also interacting with each other. Didn't it also just like pause and not finish the question? I think that he interrupted it. Oh, he interrupted it. Because he was basically saying, I'm helping Jimmy with his math homework. Hey, Gemini 1, like, what do you think about this? And he'd be like, wow, great question. And then it just like paused and didn't finish answering the question? Yeah, something like that. probably just a bad uh demo on on stage yeah um okay they also introduced i thought it was called imogen but it's im imagine imagine three which i thought it was imogen because image generation but it's imagine which is more like imagine it's like a triple entendre probably like still is that but just a image engine funny better way of saying yeah uh basically the third generation dolly-esque model with better photo creation yay cool um music ai soundbox which they had mark rebier at the beginning use the music ai soundbox to create these beats and they also had like a childish gambino ad where he was talking about it i think uh he was talking about video stuff later wasn't he because he was talking about veil yeah he was talking about veil because he was put up there as a uh why can't i think of the word like film like he was doing movies not music which i thought was funny but got it got it okay yeah so the music generation was you know better music yay they basically are just like updating all these small ai things that they were like i can do this too and better than last time yes which is where we go with vo or yeah i think it's vo Veo I don't know I don't know it probably is Veo I'm just saying that because it's already a word in Spanish Oh what does it mean in Spanish?

1:21:46Like I see basically I see? Like from 7-11 Like 2C like I see Oh That would make sense Yeah It can create 1080p video from text image and video prompts You can further edit those videos with additional prompts they had testing extending the scenes which was that was the coolest part of it i think which i think was like a direct shot at uh run runway runaway because that can only do like 30 second video clips right now i think possibly even one minute well i thought it was cool because it wasn't just that it extends that is i think it was you could put a clip in and say make this longer right and then it would make the clip longer by just like it basically is like content aware fill where you need a photo that's bigger, but it does it on a video.

1:22:36I think that's awesome. There are so many times where you're like, found footage, this doesn't really roll enough of the B-roll that I need here. Like, if this could be five more seconds. I do remember, I remember right after Dolly came out, people were basically making these videos of like, how to make your A-roll setup cooler with AI. And it was basically like, they just had a very contained version and then they generated a filled out image of their office to make it look like they were in a bigger space. That's sick. Which is kind of cool, but now Vio can just do it for you. The nice thing, too, is it maintains consistency over time, so if you have, like, a character, the character will look the same, and it doesn't do that random stable diffusion thing that AI-generated video used to do, where it would, like, flash in and out and, like, change shapes slightly and keep moving around.

1:23:24It feels like we're only a year or two away from, like, being able to remove a fence from the foreground of a photo. I don't know. Dude, chill. Only God can do that. I don't think that's that's nobody knows how to do that. And then we're sorry, real quick. Adam and I were just like fact checking some stuff and we found something that's like too funny not to share with you guys like immediately. This is when Google announced last year Lyra, which is the actual model that does a lot of their generative audio. Look at this image that they use. I just sent it to you guys in Slack. Wait, that's just the waveform.

1:24:00That's just like our thing. It's literally our waveform clips background. Yeah. Like the colors are the same. And like the gradient's the same. And like it's kind of the same. That's exactly the same. Yo, Google, send us some IO swag from this year to make up for this. Because it's saying, you stole this from us. It's like right on the top of the page. Wow. I'm tagging Tim in this and seeing. It's literally the purple into scarlet color. We'll get back to that and see what it's like. Okay. All right. with the VO thing they said it's going to be available to select creators over the coming weeks which is weird that you have to be a creator to apparently use it and I think what they're trying to do is control the positive narrative by giving limited access to artists who will people will carefully that will say positive things about it which is fun super fun okay the pain in your voice as you said that.

1:25:00This actually is kind of cool. We found out there's some nuggets in this needle stack, you know what I'm saying? Nugget? Wait. You mean there's some needles in this haystack? No. Oh, needles in this nugget stack. I don't mean that. There's some nuggets in this hay in this needle stack. If you like hay. That's why I said nuggets. Like chicken nuggets. They have multi-step reasoning in Google search now, which is cool. This is actually something that Andrew was specifically calling out a couple weeks ago. This is so close to my Google Maps idea, I feel like, but it's not quite. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to describe it?

1:25:33Yeah. It's pretty much, it's kind of like using Google search and maps and reviews and putting it all together so you can have a more specific question or suggestion that you want. So theirs was like, I want a yoga studio that's within walking distance of Beacon Hill, is what they said, within a half an hour walk of Beacon Hill. and it's going to bring up different yoga studios that are within those parameters that you set and then based on the ratings the higher ratings in there so it's an easier thing for you to choose rather than just being i guess it's not that much different than just searching on maps where but in maps you would have to see like oh that's 20 blocks away from me this is actually like gathering that into what it deems as walkable in half an hour so yeah the the specific example they used was find the best yoga or pilates studio in boston and show the details on their intro offers and walking distance from beacon hill and so it generated again this is like the generated page so it's like kind of scary in a lot of ways but it pulls up like four that are within the 30 minute walking distance from beacon hill and it shows the distance and it shows their intro offers and it shows their ratings and that's that's really cool i can't deny that i will will say like a real world example of this is last Saturday, Saturday.

1:26:54Cause Friday night, there was an insane eclipse all over North America, not eclipse. There was a, Aurora Borealis. Cause apparently like, I'm so mad. It's crazy. You didn't miss everyone in New York and New Jersey. You would have had to get anywhere else in the United States. Okay. Yeah. We tried. I was depressed. I got, I like got into bed after getting dinner with Ellis on Friday night and it was 1230 in the morning and I opened Instagram and I was like, what the heck is happening? And what do we do the next day? we drove to montauk but the whole morning i was like googling like uh what's the weather here okay and then i had to go on google maps and i'd be like how far is that okay and i had to look at the radar of it again and so i was jumping back and forth between these tabs like crazy i was going back google maps and like these weather radar sites and like how clear is the sky during that part of the year so if i was able to just if you could trust these generative uh answers ask the question like what is the closest dark sky park that won't rain today that i'm most likely to see the aurora borealis from and it would just tell me the number one answer and i could trust it which is the biggest thing that would have been a lot easier than me jumping in forth between all these apps because this legit took me like three hours to figure out where i wanted to go this poses an interesting question on if it would be able to use real-time information and real-time information that google provides but they didn't show examples like that because what you're saying would need to know whether at a certain time that it's knowing and updating where everything they showed is stuff that could have been posted months ago yeah like yoga studio walk intro offers i guess is more closer to real time but like if you wanted to do that or if i wanted to say and this is something that's available in google what's the closest four plus star restaurant in a 20 minute walk that is not busy right now that like i wouldn't have to wait for yeah could it pull the busy time thing that they have in google and reviews and would it pull that i would hope but i don't know yeah they should have showed it if it can pull that live in there but i don't know if they would be able to do this but yeah this is so this is so close to me being able i just want this to be able to use in android auto on maps with my voice and say stuff back to me through the car speakers and be able to do a little more within a route um i feel like this feels like a step close to that yeah i'm excited for it this is very close to the thing that you mentioned the yeah yeah yeah we're almost there i'm almost able to find the closest taco bell serving breakfast on my route next next to a third wave coffee that doesn't add 30 minutes yeah that doesn't which is pretty much exactly what you asked i know it is i know it's so close yeah we'll see if that if that works um gmail now you might think that the updates to gmail would be things that i would care about no no so all i want in gmail is better contextual search because right now you can search keywords and that's basically it and you have to sort through all of the different things and you have to sometimes just doesn't show the email even though it has the exact words that you're searching for.

1:30:02Is it safe to say Gmail search function is Google's worst search function out of anything that they do? I would say so. I think it is impossible. Do you know how many times I try and find my mileage plus number in my Gmail, but I just get 400 United promotional emails that have never been opened? It's like, if I'm searching for something, I probably want it to be something that's been opened and read before. This needs the exact same update as Google Photos just got. Yes. Yeah. Which is, tell me my mileage plus number, and then it goes, here's what it is, and here's the email that showed it. Okay, so that's a perfect analogy because the Google Photos thing, you ask it a question, and then it brings you the photo that you want to see.

1:30:44Right. The update to Gmail that they just added is you ask it a question about your emails, and it generates you a response. It doesn't bring you to the email that you need to see. It just tells you about your emails, which I don't trust because I just want to see the email. I need to see the email. Yeah. Yeah. So it can summarize an email chain, which is like, I guess, sure, maybe how long are your email chains? I know corporate email chains are probably really long and possibly annoying. Still don't trust a generated answer of things. You can ask Gemini questions about your email. Okay. it has suggested replies that are generated by Gemini which is not that different from the suggested replies it already has right now except that now it's suggesting like full replies instead of just like hey Martha as like the beginning of the reply or whatever one of the examples that they got on something you can do in Gmail with Gemini is they asked it to organize and track their receipts so it extracted receipts from emails that they got from a specific person put all the receipts in a folder and drive and then created a google sheets document that in a bunch of cells like organize the receipts by category damn that was awesome that was cool it was cool but it was like so specific and neat that it can do all that and it still probably can't find my mileage plus yes yeah i bet the rabbit could do that if i took a picture of every receipt i've ever had i think this is cooler though because it can show sorry i missed the sarcasm completely there yeah i love that that was the number one thing that people were amazed by with the rabbit they were like it can make tables spreadsheets of simple spreadsheets and a humane pin can do that soon sometime sometime in the future yeah I think the biggest problem with with Gmail's contextual search right now is the signal to noise ratio is terrible like you were saying like there's one email that says your mileage plus number all of the other ones are promotional yeah signal is one noise is 999 thousand yeah maybe they just did a bad job at explaining it i'm hoping gemini for gmail search could be really awesome because i'd need it so bad yeah i'm so sick of digging through my email and just not being able to find things that are literally things i or a friend typed me i've legitimately just thought about just nuking my whole email and just starting a new one start over like i can't find anything that's not a bad idea i think it's a lot but it's and i wish you could do that with phone numbers but you're just getting someone else's like phone number that they're reusing so it's kind of pointless you're gonna get spamming yeah yeah i remember like sorry this is random no moving moving a couple years ago and getting solicitation mail being like how is this possible that i'm getting mail this is a new address it doesn't make any sense anyway yeah yeah okay okay i would like that to happen so they're they're creating this new workspace side panel that's going to be going into a lot of the google workspace apps like gmail and like google meet and like google chat was a which is part of me but no one i don't think ever has used i'd take a minute and be like what's google chat i forgot that i forgot it existed yeah um because it's a chat client by google and you just don't use them because they oh hangouts oh right oh no no sorry wait was it yeah al do it wait was it uh google messenger that's what it was oh message messages by google Oh, messages.

1:34:05Or is it Android messages? I thought it was inbox. Ah! All right. Yeah, so that side panel is how you're going to interact with Gemini in order to interact with all of your Google stuff. What I found kind of frustrating about this is that it's only in Google Workspace stuff. Oh. And to me, this is their version of Apple lock-in of, like, we're giving you all these Gemini features. But you can only really use it in Google products. But also, like, if you have, like, a regular account that's not a Workspace account, does that still work? No, you can still use it. Like, that's part of Google Workspace, I believe.

1:34:45Oh, so, like, me as a person with Google Calendar and Gmail and three or four other Google services, I can... You can use Gemini through that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They introduced this thing called a Gemini-powered teammate, if you use Google Chat. I forgot about this. so yeah chip so why do they name it stop stop naming i actually named it chad before they named it chip and then they were like chip but i was like chad was to be fair that it wasn't that's not what its name is you can name it and they named it chip as just a joke in the thing got it yeah so the way this worked is imagine a slack channel where you're all talking about stuff you're all like sending files and documents and stuff do you have an additional teammate that You can name whatever you want.

1:35:33We should name ours Chad if we ever do it. But you can say like, hey, Chad, what was the PDF that I sent to Tim last month? I can't really find it. And Chad goes, I'll go find that for you. And then it comes back and it gives it to you. And it can ask information about it. So it's basically an employee. It's a personal assistant. I'm on board. Yeah. Yeah. So but that's like only in Google chat, which literally no one has ever used in history. This is going to be dead in a week. I did not know that this was a product. yeah like i did most of them yeah on gmail you can see the little chat like because you can rotate between gmail and google chat like whenever you want which is a thing that you can like get rid of oh yeah out of that i always i know i know oh look you can invite everybody in our work yeah i'm pretty sure only google uses this so i'm not sure how helpful this is gonna be okay but it's an interesting idea.

1:36:29Marquez, the last time we talked and it was 2020. I didn't know I used this. Yeah. This isn't Hangouts. It probably was Hangouts when we were talking. Chats. Yeah. Did we say anything fun? Well, this one says I haven't used it since 2013. That means it was just Gchat, right? I just don't know anymore. I don't know. I can't believe we live in this hellscape. It's basically like it's a live like slack bot doing things yeah yeah yeah it's a slack bot that is like contextual and can grab different files that you've used which is pretty cool yeah it's really sad that it's only in google chat but yeah you know but also makes sense i guess they're not going to build it for slack correct first to show off at io yeah uh okay um they have a new thing called gems which is basically GPTs.

1:37:26You know how ChatGPT has a custom GPT you can build that's like, this is the math tutor GPT and it only talks about math. Which like, there's an existential question here of like would you rather have like one AI agent that knows literally everything and is omniscient or do you have individualized agents? I'd rather just have an omniscient agent. That's just me. But you can have JOMS which are specialized Google Gemini, Geminis. With ultra deep knowledge of specific topics. And yes. Well, sort of. No, it's the same knowledge as regular Gemini. It's not deeper than regular Gemini knowledge? No, no.

1:38:03I don't understand that. I still don't understand this that much. Yeah. Maybe it's less prone to hallucinating if it doesn't have a bunch of extra input. Maybe. Maybe there's more signal. Well, it has the same input, though, because it's the same model. But it doesn't have all the other knowledge of of other topics like to hallucinate about i don't know it's it's it's the same as the custom gpts where you use chat gpt to create a custom gpt so it's like yeah that input at the beginning has to be correct and for i don't it's i don't know the funny thing about this was when the lady on stage announced it she it was really awkward because she was like now you don't use gemini in the same way that i use gemini and we understand that and that's why we're introducing gems and there was like a four second silence and she like laughed there had to have clearly been on the teleprompter like hold for applause and nobody it was just too deep into like you said this soulless event it was not her fault it was just like it was not a great naming scheme everyone was out of it at this point there were multiple camera cuts of people yawning in the audience yeah and i just think she was waiting for an applause and it did not come and she had like an awkward chuckle i felt really bad about that yeah um yeah uh okay some more stuff trip planning which is the stupidest i i just ah they're building out the trip planning stuff for some reason um and now you can like talk to gemini and tell you about the trip that you want it'll make you with a trip and then you say oh but i'm allergic to peanuts so don't bring me to a restaurant that likes peanuts it goes oh okay and it swaps it out for you for a chocolate factory so it's like modular um i don't want to give up control to an ai but maybe people do i can only assume they're so into this because of like the way they're making some sort of affiliate money on all of these different travel things like i don't yeah i don't want to just like say plan me a trip here and then I have I know nothing about the trip I'm going to yeah and that's what it wants to do there are some psychos who would do that I guess there are you've seen those tiktoks of like I spun around and threw a dart at a globe and when it landed on Madagascar I booked my flight like that but then you want to go and have a good time off the cusp you don't want it to plan your entire itinerary right somebody would do it it's funny because when all of the video actually that honestly would be an awesome that would be an awesome i liked the old chat gpt version of just like help me find like i had to give you the place and specifics of it and like you would help throw a few suggestions like a hike at rocky mountain national park tell me the top five that are over five miles yeah that felt good now we're at the point where it's like can you walk me down this hiking trail and tell me what i'm going to see i don't like this part I like the old GPT, not this new old GPT.

1:41:01Oh my God. Okay. I think we're losing Marques, so we got to wrap this up. We're almost got to promise you were so close. We're giving him the full experience. We have like six more features. I might die. Can we use Gemini to summarize this event? If you're bored of this episode, use Gemini to summarize this episode, but then leave it running in the background. I can summarize this episode, the rest of this for you. Ready? Okay. Stuff that Google already did is now powered by machine learning. That's it. Well, more different types of machine learning, basically. Sure. Cool machine learning. Now it works 15 % worse.

1:41:39And more neurally with the brain stuff. Like what we're going to get to next, Gemini on Android. What are they using it for? Scam detection. Going to work 15 % worse. they're doing like a circle to search hover sort of thing probably 15 % worse I want to say I'm pretty sure they showed how you can buy shoes with Gemini five different times during this event they're very live shopping I think Google's really trying to amp up the live shopping affiliate stuff because I think they see the writing on the wall for search not making money anymore in the distant future so they're like how can we just create new revenue streams Well, they're killing off their ad streams by summarizing all the websites that they sell ads on.

1:42:25So now they're just going to make the affiliate marketing through the e-commerce that just appears directly under the search. Because Google AdSense is like, oh my God. They're the backbone of the web and they're also throttling it and making sure it doesn't work anymore. Yeah. All right. Gemini and Android. Cool. there's this gemini hover window now that can hover above apps so you can like ask it questions about the app and interact with the app and do that kind of stuff um seems helpful sometimes annoying other times if it was one of those android things where it's like kind of pinned to the right corner and you can press it and then appear when you want it to be yep that'd be nice i'm not really sure how they're integrating it but you know what this is giving me the vibe of I feel like Google doesn't know what to use AI for.

1:43:13And it reminds me of like... Nobody does. That too. It reminds me of like when Apple makes a new thing and they're like, developers will figure out what to do with it. Yeah. Like Google doesn't know what to show the AI doing. So it's just doing a bunch of things it already does. And they're just like treating it as a new language almost where they're like, developers and you guys will eventually figure it out and make it useful. Can I have a counterpoint to that? Go. I think Google knows exactly what their AI can do. And just like with Bing and like old chatbots that went off the rails, Google is way too scared of the power that they have and what people could do with it, that they have to show the most minuscule, safe examples of things and release it in a very safe way because they know how much power they have.

1:43:56Buying sneakers. Buying sneakers. Yeah. Make us some money. Don't do anything that would hurt the entire, our entire brand. Yeah. I think that's my take on it. Yeah, but at this point, everyone already kind of sees them as losing to open ai so like that's not just they know that they actually are winning and it's only a matter of time and they know they're not behind they're so much better position than open ai they're fine and and this event really kind of showcased that because it showcased all the google workspace stuff that they could actually use gemini in um this isn't a joke though we still do have five more things to cover but i'm gonna go quick I promise.

1:44:34Yeah, we'll get through it. Okay. So in the Gemini and Android floating window thing, you could be watching a YouTube video. You can be asking questions about the YouTube video while you're watching it, which is semi-cool. However, it hallucinates and gets stuff wrong. Someone gave an example. They talked about pickleball again because that's all the tech bros talk about. and uh the google executive who is now into pickleball because of course you are um asked was like is it illegal to put a spin on the pickleball and it was like yes you cannot do spin on the pickleball and some pickleball person on twitter was like what yes you can um so that's fun uh it now has ai powered scam detection which is kind of creepy uh because it is consistent it's listening to your phone call when you pick it up and it's listening to what the other thing on the end of the line is saying because it might not be a person might be a robot by then it's too late and it will tell you it will so the example they gave was like someone who had answered a call and was like we just need you to like click this link and blah blah blah and then on the phone there's a little pop-up that says like this is probably a scam you should hang up now i actually think that's awesome great for old people except that it's listening to you all the time which is weird yeah which is weird and i imagine they're gonna probably do something about like it's only on device and we don't do anything with the information we get rid of it immediately after i think it would be super useful for people who would fall for those scams because so many of them it takes 30 minutes to an hour some of them have to go out and buy gift cards and stuff like that and at that point it could be like this is a scam hang up that could save people like literally life savings totally i think that's awesome yeah um they're calling all of these new gemini in android features gemini nano with multi-modality because we need more branding um and it's yeah starting on pixel later this year uh i imagine it'll get moved out to more android phones later they're definitely trying to like build a fortress against apple and be like look at all our ai stuff that only Android phones have.

1:46:43Google Chrome is also getting Gemini Nano. I'm not really sure what that means. You can do basic stuff in it that you can do with Gemini Nano now if you use Chrome. That was sort of passive. They're not that scared of other browsers right now. They still have way too much market share. So last year, they also introduced this thing called SynthID because when they showed off the image generation, they basically talked about this open standard that they want to create where it bakes in this hidden water mark within an AI generated image because we all used to be worried about dolly stuff and now we're worried about other AI things now but now they're expanding synth id to text somehow um no idea how they're gonna do that but that's interesting and also video uh so I don't think it's gonna be an interesting standard but it's just their version of figuring out whether or not something's AI generated they made a joke at the end of IO where they were like we're gonna save you the trouble with how many times we said AI, okay?

1:47:40We said it 120 times. And they were like, ha, ha, ha, funny. And then right as Sundar was getting off the stage, he said it one more time, and the ticker went up to 121. But then they said it again. So it was 122. I'm just saying. Also, I think that, sure, they can make fun of that and say all that stuff, but they said Gemini. I think the final count on Gemini was 160 times. um and my theory is that they're just replacing ai with gemini because now they don't need to convince the stock market that they're an ai company anymore now they just want to bake gemini into your brain as hard as physically possible so they just said it over and over and over again um which was funny it was funny yeah yeah so i think um just to wrap this all up because i'm sure everyone listening or watching is begging for us to be done with this i'm sorry um it's um matt and cini from uh this is an austin evans channel i think had a great tweet to kind of explain why both of these events felt not great um he said the problem with overhyping ai is that all the stuff we're seeing today doesn't feel new this stuff is cool it's impressive but it's barely catching up to what we were told ai was potentially capable of two years ago so it feels almost like no advancements have been made i thought that was a pretty good summary of everything like we've watched so much in the past of like this is the stuff we're gonna do look how amazing it is and now we're getting the stuff it actually is doing and it hasn't made it to that i also think they just throw around technical jargon with like model sizes and token like parameterization and the yeah they had a whole tp they talked about water cooling they're like we have state of the art water cooling in our new tpu center and it was like who cares like who are you trying gonna tell this to yeah big water big water yeah um so yeah we can we can we can start to wrap it up i'm so sorry yeah so marquez are you gonna go back and watch the events i don't think i'm gonna watch it i do think i got the idea that like google is trying to make sure everyone knows that they've been an ai company for super long and then on the other side of the spectrum is apple where they're like okay we don't need to say this over and over and over and over again but we do need people to understand that we have at least been doing something ai related and they're like these are opposite ends of the spectrum of like how in your face they want to be about that and both are fine both are fine i don't really have a a horse in the race i'm just hoping they just keep making their stuff better well that is a great place to end this podcast which means it's a great place to do our trivia answers

1:50:25How do you have all of them? I don't know. Weight form trivia! But before we get started, quick update on the score. One thing at a time. In second place, we have a tie with eight points between Andrew, who's currently carrying the one, and David. What does that mean? David. They both have eight points. Wait. Marquez got something right last week? Yeah. Oh, I didn't watch it. Oh, right. We didn't update you. Marquez technically was closer than you last week on the how many times did Apple say AI? So he actually stole your point. He actually got the exact number. Yeah, so you. Did you get it from Quinn's tweet?

1:51:11Yeah, he did. I'm pretty sure. Right. Thanks, Quinn. So, yes. Unfortunately, Andrew, your lead has been temporarily taken by Marquez Brownlee, who has nine points. Is this the closest trivia we've had this deep into a trivia? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. It's usually my fault that it's not close, but. But question one, Google I.O. happened yesterday, a few days from the time this is going to get published, but yesterday from recording. And we all know I.O. stands for input output. Classic tech thing. We also know it sometimes stands for Indian Ocean. If you watched any of our domain name specials. Yeah.

1:51:52But according to Google's blog, the keyword, IO actually has two more alternate meetings to Google. What are they? And I'm giving one point for a correct answer. Two possible points.

1:52:11I have zero idea.

1:52:18I feel like one of them you would never get. The other one you might get. I think both of them you'll both definitely get. Not if I don't write it. Oh, interesting strategy. Interesting strategy. All right, Andrew, what'd you put?

1:52:37Audio listeners, something that happened. Who should go next? David. All right. I wrote two answers. Information operation. Clearly. And I also wrote, I'm out. But that is hilarious. Thanks. Marquez, what do you got? I wrote I-O being like the one and zero of binary. Oh, you're so close. Really? So close. His second answer is the best. And Google I-O for in and out. Because every time we go, we've got to go. I almost want to give him a point for that because that's better than whatever they could have thought of. No. So the first thing they listed is the acronym Innovation in the Open. oh sure yeah right um yeah okay according to the keyword what first prompted them to use io prompt in the original google io was they wanted it to reference the number google which begins with a one and looks like an i and is followed by a zero it's technically followed by 99 more zeros after that zero.

1:53:47But that would make for a really long event title. Fair. That's funny. So, now you guys know that. Okay. Cool. Okay. Next question. What was the name of the AI in the movie Her? Which we recently learned Andrew and Marquez have not seen, so this is going to go lovely. VR 180 creator. Be me. 2013. Midnight. Santa Cruz, California. You're a hippie. you're at a movie theater by yourself sobbing at 1.30 in the morning when the movie gets out. Actually it was probably closer to 2.15. What is happening? You sit on a bus for 45 minutes on the way back to campus and your entire life has changed and now you're sitting in Kearney, New Jersey.

1:54:30And you could never see Joaquin Phoenix in the same light.

1:54:36Marquez, what'd you write? Siri. Nope. You wrote Alexa. I wrote Paula. Paula? Yeah. No. I wrote Samantha. Correct. Let's go. Samantha. Who would have guessed the person who saw the movie knew the answer to that? I actually was thinking really hard. I would have thought that you guys would have seen the movie. I don't know. I thought it was a pretty straightforward question. You thought I'd seen a movie? You don't know me. Sam Altman has seen this movie. There was a funny article that was written about the OpenAI event that said, I it was called like I am one I am once again pleading that our AI overlords watch the rest of the movie yeah and it was about how they were like referencing her at the open AI event but the ending of her is supposed to be like shh no spoilers anyway it was fun it was ha ha we're wrapping this up because as little do you know we're recording another episode directly after this I'm hot and sweaty so yeah so okay yeah thanks for watching and subscribing of course and for sticking with us and for learning about google io alongside us and we'll catch you guys next week did all the people who subscribed last week make you feel better yes it worked no i feel i feel pretty good it worked yeah yeah the io and google io also stands for like and subscribe don't ask waveform was produced by adam molina and eliz rovin were partnered with vox media podcast network and our outro music was by vain still i don't think there's no you might be the only person in the world who who like doesn't even know the plot of this movie though like you know what this movie's about, right?

1:56:35Neither of you? Oh my god. Oh my god, you guys. This is like, you are the two perfect people to watch this movie with no context. I want to stay as the perfect person to watch this movie with no context. Oh my god. All of the AI things we've been talking about would make so much more sense. Can you picture Andrew coming in after sitting through yesterday's Google I.O. and then watching her for the first time and being like, I get it. Bro, her formed 90 % of my personality.

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