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Waveform Podcast - Episode Summary: "How We Filmed Our Work Lives for 1 Year!"
Podcast Overview Podcast Title: Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast Hosts: Marques Brownlee (MKBHD), Andrew Manganelli, Eric, Rich Description: A tech podcast that dives deep into the latest gadgets and technology, featuring insights from experienced YouTuber Marques Brownlee and his team. Episode Type: Bonus Episode
Episode Summary This episode provides an in-depth behind-the-scenes look at the ambitious "Year in the Life" project created for The Studio channel. Hosts Marques, Andrew, Eric, and Rich share anecdotes, technical challenges, and highlights from the year-long filming process.
Key Highlights
- Introduction to the Team:
- Marques introduces a different lineup of hosts for this bonus episode, featuring Eric and Rich alongside Andrew.
- Project Overview:
- The concept of filming a "Year in the Life" was pitched as a way to capture the unique workplace dynamics at The Studio and document the team’s activities throughout 2024.
- This project was described as one of the most ambitious undertakings for the MKBHD channels.
Behind the Scenes of "Year in the Life"
- Initial Challenges:
- The team faced difficulties in determining what to film and how to create a cohesive narrative.
- Early filming results were not promising, as they lacked a clear story arc.
- Technical Equipment:
- The team primarily used Canon C70 cameras, which became key assets in their filming process.
- There were also discussions about the need for better tech to facilitate smoother filming and editing.
- Creative Process:
- Filming began with a "day in the life" format, which evolved into a "week in the life" and subsequently transitioned to documenting the entire year.
- The narrative structure focused on capturing unique moments that resonated with the audience, rather than just mundane daily activities.
Filming Experiences
- Memorable Moments:
- Various anecdotes were shared, including filming travel experiences and unexpected challenges, such as equipment issues during a trip to Portugal.
- South By Southwest was highlighted as a turning point for the team, where they learned valuable lessons about storytelling and capturing compelling content.
- Editing and Post-Production:
- The editing process was described as intense, with multiple edits and a significant amount of feedback leading to the final cut.
- A unique audio post-production method was employed, where all sounds for the initial sequences were re-recorded for clarity.
Themes and Reflections
- Cohesion and Flow:
- The episode emphasizes the importance of narrative cohesion, character development, and maintaining audience engagement throughout the lengthy video.
- Insights into the evolving creator economy and how their roles as content creators intersect with traditional journalism were discussed.
- Future Aspirations:
- The team expresses hope for the next installment of "Year in the Life," with a desire to delve deeper into individual stories and create more targeted narratives.
Conclusion The hosts wrap up by expressing pride in their work and the collaborative effort that went into creating "Year in the Life." They encourage listeners to watch the final product and reflect on the journey shared throughout the year.
Key Takeaways
- Collaboration: The success of the "Year in the Life" project exemplified the importance of teamwork and shared vision within creative environments.
- Storytelling: Effective storytelling requires clear narratives, character arcs, and cohesive editing to maintain audience engagement.
- Innovation in Content Creation: As the creator economy evolves, new media presents opportunities and challenges that require adaptability from creators.
Final Thoughts This episode serves as a testament to the challenges and triumphs faced when documenting creative processes and the dedication required to produce high-quality content. The insights shared by Marques and his team highlight the evolving nature of media and the significance of collaboration in achieving shared goals.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOverview of the Year in the Life Project
0:46 to 1:16
The hosts discuss the ambitious Year in the Life project and its significance.
“So we're all here to talk about our Year in the Life project because it was so sick that it deserves a little bit more unpacking.”
Initial Challenges and Ideas
1:17 to 2:25
Exploration of the challenges faced in defining the project and initial concepts.
“And Eric and Rich were the sort of masterminds who made this possible, but also like came up with it and architected like how we were, I like to say building the bridge as we were crossing it, which was really fun.”
The Journey of Filming
2:26 to 4:38
The hosts detail the evolution of their filming process and the tech stack used.
“But working here, you kind of sit around and you realize like this is a really unique workplace because of the vibe and not necessarily because of any individual project.”
Stories from January's Filming
4:39 to 8:18
Discussion of the frustrating experiences and learning moments during January's shoots.
“Because I want people to like leave this podcast episode being able to make their own Yiddle.”
The Portugal Trip and Footage Loss
8:19 to 11:24
Sharing the story of a trip to Portugal and the unfortunate loss of footage.
“I get last minute called to spend 24 hours in San Francisco.”
Reflections on South by Southwest
11:25 to 14:00
The hosts recount their experiences at South by Southwest and hotel stories.
“And so we like turned back and we, we probably searched for that camera for an hour or so.”
Experiences at South By Southwest
14:00 to 14:44
The hosts share their amusing and challenging experiences at SXSW, including hotel issues.
“We're like, I just want to shower and go to bed.”
Camera Performance and Feedback
14:44 to 15:27
Discussion about the performance of the C70 camera and the feedback from their footage.
Editing Process and Feedback Challenges
15:27 to 17:34
Hosts discuss the editing process, challenges with notes received, and the importance of clarity in feedback.
“So all of the notes we got were useless.”
Interview Coverage and First Cuts
17:34 to 18:40
The team reflects on their travel footage and how it shaped the first cuts of their video.
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Structuring the Year in Review
18:40 to 21:18
The discussion centers on how they structured their year-in-review video to keep it engaging.
“So like, so like I totally like, so like I think having that, that come out and Rich and I just going and shooting the coverage.”
Sound Design and Audio Challenges
21:18 to 24:08
The team shares insights on sound design, re-recording audio, and the challenges faced.
“what we wanted to keep around was really difficult.”
YouTube vs Hollywood Production
24:44 to 28:00
A conversation about the differences between producing for YouTube and Hollywood.
“Okay, this gets into one of the themes of the piece that I think is very interesting.”
Innovative Audio Mixing Techniques
28:00 to 30:00
Learn about unique audio mixing strategies used in production.
“And we were like, how on earth do they, like, how do you mix anything hearing someone else's work at the same time?”
The Challenge of Managing Storage
30:00 to 31:45
Understand the complexities of data management in video projects.
“computer into the same set of speakers and it like made everything so much easier.”
Finding the Right Clips for the Edit
31:45 to 33:58
Explore the process of sourcing clips for video edits in tight timelines.
“but it's the size of the final cut library.”
The Expansive Data Needs of Filmmaking
33:58 to 35:59
Discover the massive data requirements for video projects and storage solutions.
Planning for Future Projects
35:59 to 39:20
Learn how past experiences inform future video projects and storytelling.
“The correct answer, the whole project is 37.57 terabytes.”
Audience Engagement and Feedback
39:58 to 42:00
Understand how audience feedback shapes video content and viewer interactions.
“So we can see the analytics and it's like, if you sort comments by newest, you can kind of get a sense of the like flow of, you know, there was the day one viewers, obviously, people who are watching right away.”
Favorite Moments from 'Year in the Life'
42:05 to 44:39
The hosts share their favorite quotes and moments from the video project.
“which is, that's like, that's where you can log the movies you watch and review them.”
Crafting the Club Apple Sequence
44:40 to 46:40
Discussion about creating the music and editing style for the Apple event sequence.
“Ellis knew that that was like for Yiddos.”
The Joy of Music in Storytelling
46:41 to 48:36
Exploration of how music plays a crucial role in enhancing the storytelling in their work.
“And as somebody who would sit and watch him score for hours and hours and hours, it was so familiar and satisfying and fun to see Alison Rufus cook on music and make that a part of like a core part of the story.”
Behind the Scenes of Favorite Clips
48:37 to 50:35
Hosts reminisce about behind-the-scenes moments and favorite clips from their experiences.
“the cargo room i'm the only person in here that owns a cd player it's a vial it's final it's got to be vinyl then oh vinyl all the way or cassette i'm the only one in here that owns a cassette cassette player.”
James Cameron Interview Insights
50:36 to 55:46
Reflection on the philosophical nature of the interview with James Cameron and its implications.
“But I didn't see a single comment about that probably because it's too specific, but there are so many little parts where if you lived it, you're like, people aren't going to understand that.”
Reflections on New Media and Personal Growth
56:00 to 56:39
Explore how personal experiences in media shape perspectives.
“I was like, I was first expecting something like that.”
Miles Somerville's Influence and Story
56:40 to 59:09
Learn about the connection between Marquez and Miles and their shared journey.
“He's just like, ooh, Marquez, do you want to come on my submarine?”
The Evolution of Media and Our Role
59:10 to 1:01:04
Discuss the changing landscape of media and its implications for creators.
“And we can see the the conflicts and the back and forth and have a really crystal clear understanding for what was going through the minds of the people who were living through that changing of the guard.”
Building a Community of Creators
1:01:05 to 1:02:32
Discover how the podcast team has created an influential community.
“Like I used to, 2017, I used to not leave until you were done, which meant the last four hours of most of my days was just watching you edit.”
Lessons Learned from Our Journey
1:02:33 to 1:05:26
Hear insights about the importance of collaboration and creative growth.
“and we're getting further and further in that.”
Final Insights on Podcasting
1:07:24 to 1:07:44
Briefly reflect on the technical aspects of filming and podcasting.
“bye I could keep Marquez's camera wide open and he would still be in focus throughout the whole podcast.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00How much can we talk about like who sent us? Can we talk about that? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we ended up making the video. Yeah, we did. So Ferrari, well, we got a video made for cars with miles.
0:20Yo, what's up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. I'm your host, Marquez, and we have a different set today and a different set of people because we're doing a bonus episode. So we'll be back with your regularly scheduled programming on Friday like we always do. But let's go around the table and introduce ourselves because it's not the normal set of people. Hi, I'm Rich. Hi, I am confused for Rich. I'm Eric. I'm still Andrew. So we're all here to talk about our Year in the Life project because it was so sick that it deserves a little bit more unpacking.
0:54We spent an entire year recording everything that was happening, both in the studio and with our teams around the studio, traveling across the country, making videos. And then we put it all into one, I keep saying feature length film, whatever we want to call it. One of the biggest, most ambitious, most challenging undertakings of any of the MKBHD channels that we've ever put together. And we're really proud of it. And Eric and Rich were the sort of masterminds who made this possible, but also like came up with it and architected like how we were, I like to say building the bridge as we were crossing it, which was really fun.
1:30Yeah. So I think we nearly fell off that bridge. Yeah. Many times. Many times. Yeah. There's a design of the bridge. Shiny bridge. Yeah. Yeah. So I think you guys should take it from here. We want to know some things that you might not know watching Year in the Life that you guys know. So I guess I'll give some context and then I'll pass it over to Rich and we can talk about like what like actually starting it looked like. But when Rich and I started on the studio, we like asked everyone like, oh, what do you like doing? And we got a lot of pitches of like, I want to go to one of Marquez's Frisbee games.
2:04And like we do a video talking about that. Or like, you know, we should do a vlog or, you know, like sort of classic YouTube stuff. And it was really hard because it's like, oh, would people click on a video about like how we make the podcast? Would people click on a video about how we made one specific intro? Like the more specific it gets, the more I think people give themselves excuses to be like, ah, it's probably not for me. But working here, you kind of sit around and you realize like this is a really unique workplace because of the vibe and not necessarily because of any individual project.
2:37And so we were thinking about like how do you capture the vibe but still have a title where people would click on it. And at the end of 2024, a very difficult year, I was like it would be kind of sick to do like a year in the life video about 2024. and then I pitched it and everyone was like let's not rehash that let's never do that but but what if we did a year in the life for 2025 and so at the beginning of the year we were like we're gonna do this video and we like set up a camera and then and then it got really difficult really quickly we had also already done I think the first ever day in the life we did was a one of the busiest days we've ever had so we're like let's do a day in the life so you can see what a whole team does on our busiest day.
3:24Then I think you kind of, uh, talked about it, but we were talking about like how the podcast is made slowly turned into a week in the life because we realized so much of making the podcast was based around like, how can we make this weekly thing in the confines of everything else we're doing in a week? Exactly. And then the next logical step was clearly skip month, go to year. Right. Cause if we didn't, if we did month, that it would just be September. But by the time we had the idea, it was like November, 2024. So I was like, well, let's just, let's just do the year one. Cause it's going to be hard enough to do.
3:57Yeah. Yeah. I think one of the most fun parts of it was actually having us just start to capture everything. Cause that's one of the ideas for the reason we started a podcast is because we were like, we kind of have a lot of tech related conversations and not necessarily videos, but they are interesting. And we kind of like talk about the news a lot and we have takes on things? How do we just like sit down and actually formalize this? And we made the podcast out of that. And I think Yoodle, as we're affectionately calling it, was a whole bunch more of that, where anything interesting that's ever happening, or maybe even not interesting, just anything that's happening, let's just get it on camera just in case.
4:33And then we just kind of went from there. So I feel like the place to start is like, Rich, what was our tech stack coming into January? Because I want people to like leave this podcast episode being able to make their own Yiddle. And as the technical visionary for this, where did we start? Like, what was the first camera we had? And then we can kind of talk about how we added different tech to begin with. Sure. We shoot most of Yiddle, probably 95 % on C70, which is kind of our workhorse cameras. We have three of them in the office. There's always one on either mine or Eric's desk, and it's always ready to go.
5:09It's got a 416 on it. It's always got a card in it it's ready to go the problem is when we're shooting everything it's a ton of space yeah january was like really difficult for i'd say like three main reasons we shot everything but we didn't know what we were shooting and we had no story yeah one of the first things that we shot was like a really busy day where andrew like i think it was brandon was supposed to go on a shoot with marquez for the sam the new samsung it was actually the xr headset which is why we're And one of our shooters got sick, so now I have to meet Marquez in California tonight, so tomorrow we can shoot an exclusive shot of the Google Samsung XR headset.
5:55The only problem is we had all this pod stuff scheduled for today because we need to record a bonus pod, then we need to watch Unpacked, then we need to record an episode about Unpacked, and then I need to be on a plane by 5.30. Might be my longest day of the year total, but let's start it. And so I was like, Andrew, film that. And I was like, I will try. And it was just a lot of me being like, I'm still stuck in the airport. And then later, like, I am tired. And it was pretty boring. It was like, and like, so like, that was all of our January coverage was pretty much just that. Cause like everything else was just us like walking around the studio.
6:34We realized like, okay, we're shooting everything, but we don't have like a purpose. Yeah. So, and then that made the edit really hard too, because we didn't know what we were selecting for. So we were just like wafting through stuff. I feel like anyone that's ever tried to like make a vlog knows what you're talking about. Like we've all had that experience of I recorded everything for a week. This will be easy to turn it into a video. And you're sitting there like, wait. It's brutal. So the two things that like helped are I asked Mariah to take a pass on the edit. I took a pass and everyone was like, this sucks.
7:07And so then I asked Mariah to take a pass on the edit. And what she did is she found like podcast interviews and clips from across the other channels that she could sprinkle throughout. And I was like, oh, these are like the chapter markers, like everything like these are payoffs. And all of the Yiddle coverage is setups. And then once that clicked, we had like a little micro format. We still didn't know like where the story was going or like what like when to choose what actually made it in the cut versus didn't. But we had a rhythm. them and so that was kind of like step one um like we it's it's showing the creation and then like you get the payoff of like oh that thing was was made or like if it's an external thing like a podcast interview like your thing with trevor noah the whole point of those was to show like um this is a theme that we'll be setting up or like like a larger conversation that we could establish And so Mariah created like that basis for the language.
8:05And then from there, it was just like stepping up to like, how do we actually like make anything that we want to use? Because yeah, like the Andrew coverage did just didn't make the cut. I mean, I totally understood. As I'm filming, I was like, yeah, this is like kind of a crazy me talking about that right then. Sounds interesting. I get last minute called to spend 24 hours in San Francisco. But then when you're living it, you're like, I haven't done this. which I think also along the way, we have a whole year of not just you guys got better at capturing it and we got better equipment at capturing it, but everyone started being like, Rich, we need the Yiddle cam.
8:41Come over to this side of the office. It was like ingrained in us to be like, capture this, capture this, capture this. It was definitely one of those things where Harper was like, film every meeting. And then Harper would at the beginning of every week be like, we have this, this, this, and this. Which of this is Yiddle coverage? who's the yiddler, as we affectionately would refer to them as, to grab each of these. So the next deleted scene that I want to talk about is in February when Rich and Miles flew first class to Portugal. How much can we talk about? Like, who sent us? Can we talk about that?
9:15Why not? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we ended up making the video. Yeah. We did. So Ferrari, well, we got a video made for Cars with Miles. so we didn't end up we didn't make that video yeah so we we scrapped that video right so and that was like i'll i'll put a pin in that because that was actually important to the storytelling i was fighting to keep this scene in year in the life but yeah our february big thing that we cut was this trip do you want to describe your lovely trip rich sure yeah um this unfortunately got deleted so maybe at some point in the future we can show the audience but it was three days i believe of me and Miles in the beautiful southwestern coast of Portugal.
9:57Rich and I are in Portugal for a Ferrari thing. We had a camera, an action camera, basically suction cup to the front right side of the car. So we keep going and then we hit a bump, which is like, check on the GoPro just to make sure it's still there, which I'm assuming it is. He looks over and he's like, yeah, let's go. We relate to everything. Yeah. and we lost a camera which had a lot bunch of footage on it and then we get Portuguese McDonald's which turns out is just like American McDonald's so pretty bad was it the DoDeci Cilindri? it was it was the convertible too we had the top down shit with the hand movements there's an Italian it's an Italian card I feel like I have to sorry it was wonderful it was beautiful the problem was I think I didn't know what to capture yet because this was like a month into us doing Year in the Life and so I'm like what kind of coverage do we need i think that was a big problem for me and throughout the year that that really helped was like oh okay like this is the kind of coverage we need we need like setups as in like oh here's where we are in terms of you know setting or yeah this is what we're shooting this is why we're shooting it this is why it's challenging like eventually like we we could kind of figure out like what we wanted yeah but at this point we had two travel shoots that were both like cut yeah the the portugal one i'm really disappointed because we lost all that footage right well we lost the actual footage up for the video yes yeah like the i guess the gopro that you had or like the phone that you had that you used to shoot a bunch of the footage fell off the car unfortunately yeah it was oh yeah so it was suction cupped at some point during our drive it had fallen off and we unfortunately only had like an hour left before we had to get back to the hotel or else the shuttles would be leaving and we'd be stranded there.
11:48And so we like turned back and we, we probably searched for that camera for an hour or so. Cause it had all of our like, you know, kind of like bumper shots and all this like great coverage. And we're like, oh man, this is a bummer to lose that footage. I was like, from a story perspective, this is so great. Cause it shows stakes, right? Like I think the big issue that I had with Yiddle one that is already being solved by yiddle two is in yiddle one we just keep constantly winning all the time like it makes working here look really easily but that's just because when stuff went really bad we'd like lock in and not lost all the footage so yeah yeah exactly okay so two months down month three there's another trip to south by southwest and i was just like rich we are going on this trip.
12:38Both of us are going to shoot everything. And I think that this was the turning point for us. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So, like, we went to South By with all the pod boys. There's a great story about this. Wait, what's the hotel story? Bro. Oh, too soon. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. There's so much good stuff. There's so much good stuff that did not make the cut. Tell that story. Some might know this. which hotel story are we talking about? Because there's I just know like South by is really confusing and we're figuring this out right now booking again. But like in order to get a hotel at South by you need a badge and Vox handles our badges.
13:18So Vox booked our hotels. But since you guys aren't hosts on the podcast we had to get you hotel rooms. And after this episode I can send this to Vox. But like you had to get hotels somewhere else. Yeah. So we just found a place that Rich could book with like Hilton points or something that was like 30 minutes outside of Austin. But it was cheap. It was really cheap. Under a hundred bucks. It was like a hundred bucks. Rich and I were just gonna like share a bed. Did you guys get your money's worth? No, we did not. No, I would argue we kind of did. So we show up and they're like, there's no clean water.
13:55And we were like - No, no, no hot water. And it's like 11 o 'clock at night. We're freezing. We're tired. We're like, I just want to shower and go to bed. And they're like, there's no hot water. Yeah, so they were like, so we'll give you half off on the one room you have. And I look at Rich and I'm like, I think we're balling out. Keep the$100 we gave you. Two rooms. So Rich and I get our own full-sized beds. Nice. There was also no breakfast there. Almost no hotel has breakfast anymore, unfortunately. but um are you sure it was i remember trying to run the water and i think like a brown sludge came out oh my room just had cold water so between your two rooms yeah either way we go to south by we film everything rich and i stink but in a good way because that footage was stanky too it was great um c70 is not great in low light but is you know it's all good that was the shoot that you guys came back and you like begged the marquez for sony's you're like please and then literally like two shoots later we were like never mind we're going back to the kid we should have always trusted you that's the one low light shoot I mean other than being like in the back of a car or like on a plane or something it's like it's usually pretty decently lit yeah that C70 color Rich like the color job you did is just like so fantastic it is a great camera to work with that's why we love Canon do you guys want to on our fine cut so no notes on story no notes on move this no notes on cut this the only notes that people could leave are color grading and audio do you guys want to guess how many notes we got yeah five days to upload by whatever miscommunication we had on that was really frustrating because i i told you i said this is unmixed no no i know so i know notes on missing sounds we just we just send it to everybody No, but you specifically said, do not leave notes on missing sounds.
15:59Only leave mix notes. Oh. So all of the notes we got were useless. To be fair. The mix is still really good. Eric, also, if you're not, we put everything in Frame.io and the amount of times this was watched by people in the studio is wild. I think I watched it once a month because the thing evolved. But yeah, the cut that I watched was not what even got uploaded. I've watched so many different cuts of year in the life, but there's a point where this, the video gets so big that even though Eric will be like, don't comment on X, Y, Z, you'll just forget that by minute 40. It's not even that. And also some of them are like, this is too important of a thing.
16:40I have to leave the note because just if for some reason it doesn't, it feels like it will be more detrimental later to be, I know that kind of sounds backwards, but there's things like curses. So I don't know. sometimes there's things where I like I have to say this graphic is messed up or like what yeah it's just like if we don't just home address is showing in minute 38 yeah I'm like on our second to last cut on our fourth watch through Rich goes oh my god that's the company credit card I think this was like the day before upload just just so you guys know Rich thank you yeah yeah thank you we were like oh my god we blurred so many things we had to do like such fine details on it and that's like but yeah we had like 300 notes the week before upload yeah like the week before so that was like not that's not including the story conversations and like the the weekly meetings and blah blah blah but um the flow that we got into after south by was like when things really clicked because it was south by and then um i took like a trip to Peru shout out peruanos and then and then and Chicago just cuz and then While I was in Peru Harper and Mariah ran point on interviewing every single person here Mm-hmm and then once we had the interview coverage and actually good Travel footage we were like oh we have the first 15 minutes Like we can figure this out and so once and once we sent that video at the and on the first day of April everyone's like april fools whatever and they watch and they're like wait this is actually kind of good that's when the momentum started to build and by like may and june everyone was like this video is coming out i know that i can put my time into it i know that i can think about it because we've had other videos ellis and adam are both certified in how to use a ham radio because we spent three months on the studio channel trying to get them to call the iss and we just Scrap that video.
18:39I completely forgot about that. Yeah. So like, so like I totally like, so like I think having that, that come out and Rich and I just going and shooting the coverage. I think that was the moment where everyone realized like, oh, the video is going to come out. Yeah. And then it was off to the races. Format wise, it was really fun. Cause I think you, when you see the title year in the life and you, when you know what a vlog is, you kind of just picture just a chronological super, super, super long day, like a long vlog in straight order. and I think some people might find that interesting in its own way but I think the the way obviously we were able to structure things and like bring stories through loop things through the whole video and the recurring uh I've watched it now with people who are seeing it for the first time because I've seen the cut so many times noticing different things people pick up on like the Snoop dog wine bottle and how that keeps recurring just like various things that sort of bring people's attention back in all made it feel not obviously produced is one thing but like just cohesive and it made me really proud of it so it was exciting to do that i like a piece of advice if you want to do that like i think so many vlogs are run on sentences so many vlogs are this happened and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened and it gets really really really difficult it gets difficult for the editors because they don't know what to place focus on when everything is equally weighted.
19:59It's difficult for like Ellis as he's doing like music decisions because he like, you can't tell what the difference between beats are. And so everything that we were doing was thinking like, what is our punctuation? Like where is something going to end? And then we'd reverse engineer. So like the summer was, oh, the punctuation ends when Marquez comes back from China. And then the, then that's, that gives us clear setup of like, we have to film a bunch of stuff before Marquez leaves. And like that, then I also know what to cut because if we're shooting something and it doesn't intersect with marquez is going to china soon then it's then it's all gone because we're just focused on that sentence right now and then once that's done it's like oh marquez comes back from china and literally the day he's back busy season begins okay it's smartphone season now there's like a main thesis for that which leads us to iphone which and so like the the key was like we just had to figure out where the cut was going that's what made cutting like um november and december really really hard because we had already been through the hardest things we could do and we shot tons of videos in november december but it was just like you you've already made your iphone videos like seeing you make another a pixel video is like that's not impressive anymore because we we watched you do it right it's not like there's any tension in like are they going to be able to pull it off and there's no mystery either so like figuring out what we wanted to keep around was really difficult.
21:21But ultimately, like, that's where the three questions idea came from. We just, like, pulled everyone in for interviews right at the end of the year to ask them, what are your three questions to describe 2025? And then Rufus did a full score piece. And then we kind of knew, like, okay, three questions for 2025, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then that'll ring with the three questions that describe 2026. That's the ending. And it all led there. Three words. Oh, three words. Three words. English. I love you Sixers are up Still true We've won five games in a row You had a 40 piece Can I just say something that Ellis was very proud of That people may or may not have noticed The moment in Yiddle When Philadelphia comes on the screen He put Ellis do you want to describe it Every location has its own Signature sound except for one New Jersey No, New Jersey had one.
22:19New Jersey had an arcade machine, a kung fu slap from an arcade machine. The Philadelphia one was an eagle screeching and the sound of a car window being shattered. Oh, wow. Nice. That's not the thing that I'm most proud of. It's not right to talk about this without Rufus here because he was the one that really did a lot of this labor on it. But something that Rufus and I are both really proud of in Yiddle is no one would know how many of the sounds in Yiddle are fake. like the entire intro sequence. There's not a, other than Marquez's voice, there's not a single sound that was recorded. Every single, even like the montage.
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23:14So it's not just phones, and it's not just cars, we also do a podcast in here. Every single clip in the montage was silent and we re-recorded everyone's lines, everyone's movement, every shirt swish, every footstep. Rufus was walking around with a microphone and he'd be like, hey, jump. Or he'd say like, say congratulations. Or he'd say like, I hope this works. And he'd just like run up to people and give people lines and then just like - He pulled me into a robot room and was like, say something funny, go. Rufus spent a lot of time like going around the office from recording the sound of every room because it was a lot easier for us to just mute a lot of the clips you gave us and then recreate our own rooms than work from the C70.
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24:44Okay, this gets into one of the themes of the piece that I think is very interesting. Because I think that there's a lot, I think there's a great deal of humor in the fact that from within like literally the first 15 minutes to the end, we keep being like, YouTube's the best. I don't want to do movies. YouTube is great. We don't need Hollywood. And then we're like, we're going to fully mix the entire thing with fully sound. Yeah. And it's going to be 90 minutes. And you should probably watch it on your TV. and we're going to do a little director's commentary episode. Like, do you guys, like, how do we reconcile the dissonance?
25:18I can. I think that a lot of times, and I talked to, I remember having this question, I think it was in the Will Smith interview of like, because he was doing YouTube videos and obviously Hollywood movies. And what's the biggest difference between the two? It's my Will Smith impression. Yeah. And a lot of it... A lot of it comes down to when working on Hollywood movies, you have an idea in your head and you have a goal for a thing you want to create and you spend a whole lot of time on it. All of this is the same for us. And then you finish working on it and it doesn't come out for three more years while it's being worked on.
25:56And that gap is the frustrating part. And I think for us, we have the same thing. We have this process. We have a vision of what we want to create. We work really hard on it. We put a lot of effort into making it as good as possible. And then it's out. Yeah, we picture locked year in the life, January 7th, 2026. So we essentially fully edited the entire thing over Christmas break, took one week to do notes, pickups, finalize the last five minutes, shoot the first five minutes because the first version of the first five minutes was me shot on iPhone reading the lines, like just like trying to vibe it out.
26:33Yeah, spoiler, it wasn't actually September. Yeah. That's okay, you got the idea. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, and then we essentially finished it. And then Rufus and Ellis had three weeks to sprint out the entire audio. You had two weeks? It's crazy to think two weeks is sprinting because in our world, two weeks is four or five videos. But like the amount of work they had to do was insane. But I think also like you're saying, why did we take so much of all this? I would like to hear your guys thoughts because listen, I watched a bunch of cuts of these when I'm looking at you guys in the room here.
27:11I did nothing for this video. I was a person in it. The amount of work you all put in, I can't even put it to words. I did everything. Shut up.
27:22But like part of this is like, this is the first time we did it. The amount of variables that happen over a year, the amount of pieces of equipment that we recorded on the amount of hard drives and computers and files that we were in the ether like at a certain point i'm assuming ellis you guys realized like yeah we have to do all of this stuff because it's just there's so much going on it's like winds up becoming one of the i don't say easier things to do but like in order for it to work the audio like in order to make a full it's feature length it's documentary style like to get the vibe going and a million like you don't you don't always get perfect audio off of the dji osmo that david forgets to turn on like in the car or like yeah my phone and stuff like that is mind-blowing because yeah like the initial cut is like david forgot to turn on the dji osmo and you could hear like music in the background and the sound of the road going by and like like you you two like perfectly fixed up the audio so like you could always it's just it's just insane credit where it's dude the the dialogue was really a rufus championship run like that was i guess so i guess technically it did spend three weeks in audio post because the first week was just rufus doing dialogue for that sequence we we actually locked september 1st yeah we turned around september and got it locked by the top of december because we knew something would go wrong so like we were just like let's just find 20 minutes to figure out what would go wrong rufus and i had a lot of conversations in december about how we wanted yiddle to sound like what it was actually supposed to sound like and it became pretty clear after like two or three of those conversations the workflow we needed to do which is like not the mkbhd workflow but very much the like cinema hollywood audio post workflow oh my god i'm getting tired like thinking about you're still recovering like yeah um but uh i don't know we definitely did a bunch of really funky stuff you know rivas and i had this really funny conversation on mix day the morning of mix day where he was telling me about this video he had just watched of these remixers doing tv shows like reality tv in la where they'll have two mixers on three computers going through the same set of speakers so they can hear what the other person is doing.
29:48And we were like, how on earth do they, like, how do you mix anything hearing someone else's work at the same time? And after mixing Yiddle for like three hours, we were like, we need to do this. And we immediately plugged his computer into the same set of speakers and it like made everything so much easier. I can't even fathom. It's insane. That's the Chinese Bible and Mozart in different years. So we had two computers with identical Pro Tools sessions up that were timeline synced with them both going through the same computer. So we were able to make adjustments on both of our machines that we'd sync up at the end.
30:24And if we got somewhere where a sound effect was missing or a piece of music was missing, I could keep going forward and mixing while Rufus auditioned sounds. Then we would be in agreement like that's the right sound effect. He would blip it to me and I would drop it in on the main session. Blip is like fancy airdrop. Not even. Blip is light. It's just better airdrop. Yeah, if you're not blipping, you ain't living. I got to say, we use airdrop a lot around the studio to pass around files, whether it's a PDF or a thumbnail or an entire B-roll section or footage. I don't trust airdrop to work more than 60 % of the time, especially as files get past half a gig.
31:05Yeah. Half a gig. That's fair. That's it. And Blip, I remember being in the basement of Newark Airport, you know that underground gate at the very back of Terminal C, and getting a Blip from Harper at the studio of like a 350 megabyte short, and it was just like, downloading, done. Wow. Blip is amazing. I love Blip. Shout out to Blip. It brings me to one of my big questions, actually. Okay. How much storage do we think we can estimate we actually shot to for the entire year of all the things we captured. I have that number. You do? With me at this moment in my Slack. How do we... I don't think it's exact, but it's the size of the final cut library.
31:51Do we want to do prices right rules? Whatever the highest tier. Do we want to do prices right rules? So like everything, all the graphics, all the exports, like all the B-roll, all the A-roll, all the music, everything. The final cut, all everything. Wait, everything that made it? No, everything we shot. All source material. Honestly, I have no idea. I should be removed because I know this answer. I have no idea. I'm probably the only one that knows the answer besides LS. Rich did all of the data management, which was like such a feat. I had to ask Marques for a new drive. Oh, that does give you some content.
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32:24There were times where I would be like, oh, Rich, did we have something from this? And he would have to like unplug one drive to plug another one in. the amount of just random bays of storage next to Rich's desk for this. Okay wait I have like a crazy Rich pull story so when we're in like November or December we're sending cuts for people for like final notes. Tim leaves a really good note where he's like we've shown like struggles with the merch and then all of a sudden the merch is ready for the merch shoot in this cut like we need a version of the cut where we see like a triumphant moment with the merch before they go into shooting all of like the photos yeah and i was like that's so true and i was like rich do we have the coverage and so rich goes and he takes every single merch meeting that we have because we have them all labeled post them into a timeline it's a three and a half hour long timeline and he and and this is before final cut had transcripts so he just goes through and he listens to the whole timeline on 2x speed and he finds a 15 second clip of them saying this looks really good oh it was like brandon on zoom yeah yeah yeah and oh and the audio was messed up at that time we like we um for for a month and a half out of the year right before roof is joined we we got lucky on this actually um we hadn't checked the footage we were just filming and there was something wrong with the xlr cable that plugged the microphone into the camera yeah and so for a month and a half we had pretty much no workable audio and we just had to figure out how to edit around it and then like between audio team and like just like creative editing most I haven't seen a single comment but yeah brutal all right are you all going to make your guess I feel like Rich is going to have photographic memory of 2025 just while you guys guess I just want to say one more thing about audio because it's not that interesting is we did a fader mix on this so we watched through with faders and just just did it all live it was really really fun can I say something since you make it sound like we're not talking about audio anymore even though i'm sure we will talk about audio later when we were watching there's a moment where rich is hiding from miles oh in the dark and you do the like uh reverb this this yeah claire just goes that was awesome and i was like i was like if ellis saw if like ellis or rufus saw claire who's like just watches our stuff every once in a while is not an audio movie nerd at all like understand how triumphant a like audio clip was in that i was like they would be so you know what's funny rufus did that as a joke oh really he threw it in the slack and then we watched a cut and and it didn't make it into the cut and i was like bro that has to get added back that's funny yeah she loved she thought it was so funny like it added to that scene it was really good yeah rufus mariah and Harper are like definitely the three people who are not in this room who deserve so many flowers yeah like those were definitely the three people that helped really accelerate it from like the Rich and Eric manic power hour into like this is a part of the company culture and we're all like really deeply into it alright let's do numbers I just saw Eric's number and mine so much different oh no no no Andrew Oh, Marquez is pretty close.
35:47I figure a terabyte a week. What did you put, Marquez? I have written 28 terabytes. Okay, and Eric, you have? I have a terabyte a week. So 52 terabytes. I put 8.1. The correct answer, the whole project is 37.57 terabytes. Damn. Because I think my context for that was, Rich, you were like, all right, I think I asked you, how much storage do we need to make sure we have to make Yidl 2, like, you don't have to think about, like, not having enough storage. And I think the tiers were 32, 64, 96. And you were like, yeah, as long as we have over 50, we're good. And I was like, all right, okay, all right.
36:33Okay. And this is where the price is exponential after 30 years. Yeah, price goes up. But yeah, I was like, okay, that is a lot. It's going to help so, like, you know, rich you can talk about this more but like a big lesson that we had was um we were there came a point where we were physically moving server arrays between my desk and rich's desk we were back and forth we could share a cable but then mariah would be doing a cut and we'd so then we'd have to pass a separate server to mariah so rich and i could work on it while mariah like cuts up something and then eventually rufus had to work on something and so we'd have to pick up the server take it to his desk plug it in plug it into his computer and then he would have to go and proxy all the footage so he'd take all the footage that made it into the cut and then re-render it in like 720p or 1080 proxies and then he could edit locally on his computer and so eventually when we don't have to do that days will be saved yeah that is the plan i mean we want to have this be as now that we've done our first ever version of it there are so many things that we've learned about the the production about what we do shoot and what we might already know we don't have to shoot and then how we put this together.
37:41Also, storylines and arcs are going to be different too. The first one's always the first one. You're introducing characters. We're introducing the flow of the year and how things normally go. In the second one, you can, correct me if I'm wrong, you can kind of assume that people are familiar with the characters now, that people understand the arc of the season now and maybe there are more interesting, different dynamics for part two. We will see. That just made it into the cut. I don't want to. that just made it that just made it into the cut of your microphone yeah that just made it into the cut yeah no i mean we've already started doing our interviews for 2026 and the interview question that um we've asked everyone we've pulled in so far is what is the greatest sequel of all time in your opinion we've gotten some uh some some good takes there my personal favorite take is is shrek 2 um but i'm like my yeah my vision for 2026 is i want to treat it like the bear season 2 where the bear season 1 is about the action and the plot of running the day-to-day life in this restaurant and the bear season 2 is much more about the people behind the restaurant where you focus uh a lot on individuals going through their own kind of lives and you get to live with people a little bit more, um, instead of like just the ensemble as a whole.
39:04So yeah, we're definitely thinking through like what the structure is going to look like. And the answer is probably going to steal a lot from like 20 minute episodic television more than, more than anything. Yeah. I'm excited. Commercials. Um, if you or someone that you know would like to sponsor you're in the life too, Please reach out to Jono. He'll probably tell you no. Thank God we didn't have an ad read. We had a sponsor who was interested, and then through back and forth or whatever, it was like, okay, this just isn't going to work. Oh, my. Could you imagine halfway through just being like, thank you to Bombas?
39:44I think that's probably ideal. I don't know why, but I feel like, well, I guess I do know why. There are certain videos that feel like they have to be just in a flow state. Yeah. and some things can interrupt that flow state and Yiddle is one of those things where you want to stay in it this is the only video I've ever seen where the retention goes up over time yeah maybe like one or two videos on MKBHD in the last year that do that where the graph is actually increasing and like way above the normal line and that's really satisfying I'm saying like every day like the average number of people who finish the video goes up that's sick by like thousands yeah I do remember seeing because we did this as a collab on YouTube a lot of people you know we have to be very careful about using these tools, but we launched it as a collab, no regrets about that.
40:26So we can see the analytics and it's like, if you sort comments by newest, you can kind of get a sense of the like flow of, you know, there was the day one viewers, obviously, people who are watching right away. Yeah, they're like, hell yeah, cool. We're very excited, super jazzed about it, great. Then you get the day two, day three viewers. Now we're at like the one week later, it's someone who like saved it and bookmarked it and was gonna watch it and forgot about it and came back and like much more casual viewer. And those comments are starting to flow in and I'm reading those. And all of them are uniquely interesting and positive, whether it's like, here's a timestamp of something I really enjoyed, I thought it was hilarious, or here's six paragraphs of, I never comment on the videos, but I had to comment on this one.
41:03Here's a whole bunch of stuff. A lot of really fun stuff there. Comments on this are fun because, one, they just keep coming in. Normally, 24 hours later, comments die pretty hard. These are still flowing. But because the video is so long, it's so hard for someone to comment about a very specific spot. and I think also because it's so long, so many more people are watching it on TV. So generally, they're more comments of the vibe of the whole thing. One, they're the most positive comments I've ever seen. Two, everyone loves Ellis. It's just, Ellis for I show. It's just like, man, they are the best.
41:38But then I do really love when there is, if there's a timestamp and I watch them like, this person liked this part enough to pause this hour and 30 long minutes video to specifically point to a very specific part and like finding those have been really fun. And then I feel like I go back and then relive that scene because it still is our life. The most insane and crazy and weird thing about this is somebody decided to add Year in the Life to Letterboxd, which is, that's like, that's where you can log the movies you watch and review them. I'm curious, since it now is like a 90 minute video and we all have our favorite parts, what is everyone's favorite?
42:17It can be a quote or a moment. Nintendo shit my pants. That was my favorite too. Everyone's second favorite quote from or moment from The Year in the Life. Mine is Eric's where he's like talking about you playing golf and he was like, Marquez doesn't feel it like an artist. He feels it like an athlete. And I remember watching that because I had seen multiple cuts and none of my cuts had that line in it. And when I heard that line, I was like, that's how it happens. I got a couple notes that are like, the golf thing just isn't working. the audience doesn't care about golf and i'm like no no no like there's a bigger story like yeah yeah like we have to figure out a way to like communicate why this beat matters we got comments too that were like we got to cut the snoop dog bottle of wine because we only had two clips of it rule of threes you need a setup a reminder and a payoff um and so we had to do a setup with the with like the slack graphic later and so yeah there were a couple beats there i have i have one but I want Rich to go first.
43:15I have two and they're both Andrew related. The first one is when Google came to our offices in... I don't think people understand that part of the clip but can you explain it? So I remember I was right by Alex's desk and then everyone was as in Andrew, Marquez, David and all the Google people were at our lunch table and I'm like Alex go ahead and pull up the Verge article on the Pixel or whatever right yeah the leaks yes yes and i'm like and then i shoot that and i just pan over it and andrew just deadpans the camera and he's just like that was so funny they're showing us the phone so everyone online only knows the leaks and i see you guys across the room doing exactly and i immediately catch it and i just stare and you turn the camera at me and all the google people are talking and right through them i'm just pointing at you guys like i see what you're doing i only yeah i saw that on second watch i thought that was amazing my other one is when we're doing the iPhone air, um, intro and then it's you on the small HD and you're doing like this cause they're a ghost cause we had, we had to do, um, kind of a, uh, uh, an opacity thing so that we could see the iPhone air.
44:22It's a very small moment. I think you have to be really paying attention to see that, but yeah, it's a fun little kind of Easter egg. I think my, one of my favorite parts was our first live stream, which is kind of this really funny thing of us, us not expecting what's going on and then some technical difficulties which it doesn't capture in there but like Rufus finds the one problem that we had and kind of saves everything but like the two moments of that is everyone guessing how many people and guessing really far down but when Ellis gets asked he's just like I don't know like you can just tell he's cooked at that moment already just like we're already exhausted it hasn't even started I haven't even shot yet.
45:07I already fried. What's going to happen? Ellis knew that that was like for Yiddos. So he like starts the clip like very like serious. Like, oh, I'm going to give an answer. And you can just see him break in that scene. I see the breakup. You can see his soul leave his body. And then right after, it's just so funny, the clip and the really awesome graphics around it of like, we're like, we're live. No, we're not live. And we're all we are live and we just don't know it. And then it's like, no, no, we're live, but they can't see us. And it's just Marquez on the live stream. and I'm like, I think they can see us.
45:36I'm on the thing right now. So I thought that was fun. I remember that happening too.
45:49My favorite moment was not a moment, but a sequence that takes place from about 55 minutes till about one hour, 12 minutes that internally we called Club Apple. Oh my God. We haven't even talked about the Apple event yet. Yeah. So I don't know if you guys noticed on your watch through, but all the music between flying to Apple and finishing the iPhone Air intro is all dance music. Exactly. And we spent a lot of time trying to figure out like, how do we make this sequence that's actually takes place over the course of like almost two weeks in real life feel like one continuous like onslaught of work?
46:40and we it started off as me putting the track in the actual Apple event thing the sort of like like UK style base garage stuff and being like hey Rufus look how funny this is like it's Apple Park but it's like club music and he was like wait a second this really works yeah I just thought that was so much fun to put together and it's so much fun to watch like the relentless club music there's like a few cuts where like the music cuts out for Tim and then we go right back to Marquez and it's like the the um the comp that i was using as i was cutting that sequence is the pit the tv show the pit it's about um an er and an entire season takes place over the course of a 12-hour shift in an er so every episode is one hour in real time and so you're switching from one patient to the other patient to the other patient to the other patient and it's one of those things where like you know every time that you think it will relent like every time someone goes to take a break they're just like nope someone's about to die and then they like run back and i was watching the pit and i was like it's like us but we're dumb it's like us but we're silly and so and i feel like the club music like perfectly encapsulated that i grew up with an uncle in the music industry he's a composer for film and tv the whole reason that i'm here and I do this is because I got to see Uncle Carlos doing his work every day.
48:07And as somebody who would sit and watch him score for hours and hours and hours, it was so familiar and satisfying and fun to see Alison Rufus cook on music and make that a part of like a core part of the story. The fact that You're in the Life has a theme, like a little like a little theme song from like beginning middle and end is just like such a cool joy i'm so proud of the music on this i definitely want to do a limited release merch drop where we sell a cd oh let's not do that are we going to do the cargo room i'm the only person in here that owns a cd player it's a vial it's final it's got to be vinyl then oh vinyl all the way or cassette i'm the only one in here that owns a cassette cassette player.
48:57Ellis, just buy the whole limited drop. I know how much you make. But we should, are we going to make the cargo room shirt? Because that was like half the comments. It was a pretty spiked moment in the video. People really liked the shirt. I was surprised it didn't make the cut on the initial batch. Really quick TLDR is like, we wanted to make like the core shirts for each one and that didn't feel like the core core of Autofocus. Because every shirt they showed us was a banger. We could have released every single one. It just would have been too many and a lot of work to do that. That merch meeting was like an hour long, right?
49:32It was a really long merch meeting. And that was one of seven, probably. Three minutes of selects, baby. That's how we edit. I would say very good representative selects of the beats and the arc of the meeting. It was very well done. We figured that one out. Can I throw? I don't want to just do a million things of what my favorite was. But there's one other thing that I don't think anyone recognized, which was during Apple event. There is the point where Marquez and David are at the event. So Ellis, Adam, and I are in a room watching all of it, and Eric comes in with the camera, and it looks like we're talking about something super important.
50:06But if you really, really listen, it's Ellis and I talking about how the opening to Hire by Creed sounds just like Sugar We're Going Down by Panic at the Fisco. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Follow-up boys. As well as a Paramore song. Yeah. Yeah. It's like us arguing about. Yeah. So if you really listen to that, because I was just like, Hey, at the camera and Ellis and I are like almost shouting at each other. It's not so much more like Creed. I feel like that's come up before. I have not seen. We've talked about it. We've talked about it. But I didn't see a single comment about that probably because it's too specific, but there are so many little parts where if you lived it, you're like, people aren't going to understand that.
50:47Or like, it's too short of a clip of it. Yeah. Also, then immediately after Adam going, welcome to Apple or whatever, that Tim good morning is fake. And I just got lucky that he says good morning the exact same way every single time. He hit us with a triple good morning this year. Oh. Yeah. It was huge. Good morning. Has anyone not said their favorite part? You did? I have a favorite. Adam, have you given one? My favorite part? Or any stick standout moments? I think my favorite part, like rewatching it back and like as a viewer, because I specifically made I intentionally for the last like two weeks of you guys editing, like did not look at it.
51:26I was like, I'm making it a point to not even look to leave notes. That's the way to do it. Nothing. I just want to. I'm actually going to do that next year. So, yeah, you should do that. Highly recommend it. I'm not. I'm just going to edit it with my eyes. But the day before. No, when you guys were uploading that day, Alex and I were doing one final watch through. and just making sure that like nothing, like no company credit cards were out or something like that. So we were watching it at his desk and there was a point where Rufus is explaining how he scored the iPhone intro and holy crap, the before and after on that, like it gave me chills.
52:03I was like, that was beautiful. The sound stuff was really cool. I think the sound files next to the OnePlus 13S intro, seeing that, I think people know our intros are crazy I think seeing that extra level in the tracks was like a I think it clicked for people that was only like two thirds of the tracks too the rest of them didn't even sit on the screen I do have a favorite moment I've watched it with people I remember it's when Eric and Ellis were trying to get through the airport at the last at the last second boarding was closing in like 8 minutes and they were just getting through security and the bag was getting checked and at that moment I was like 99.9 % of people put the camera down and just like we have to make this flight but not eric and not ellis dude first of all the dj osmo is so much fun to shoot yeah yeah and second out the entire time i was just like yes content this is going to cook in the intro I was like the second we were off the escalator I was already yelling like move move move like you can see like me like picking up pace but I'm like I'm yelling as much as I can because I knew I was like this is gonna be selects yes this is I was I was watching it on the tiny DJI Osmo screen on the airplane I watched it like three times and I was just like in my head there was never any shot that you guys are gonna miss the flight but there was like we gotta get the bag on the flight, please have room for the bag and we got the bag on.
53:38What did you say exactly? There's something Ellis has in line. He goes, David, take this bag. No, no, before that, it was like... He said, we've never gotten this close to missing a flight. But it seems pretty possible. It's perfect. Can we talk a little bit about the James Cameron interview? Because that was something that in the post-production audio room we had like 50 million conversations about because actually the James Cameron interview, we talked about it is like the most profound part of the movie and also the silliest part of the movie. And Marquez, I don't mean to throw you under the bus.
54:19I haven't seen it, but Marquez, you don't, you don't watch a lot of movies. I haven't seen it. Right. We're short on this. Marquez, there's 13 James Cameron movies. And so, and so, and so there's something really funny about like, what we were talking about in the room is that the you know James Cameron says this thing to you Marquez where he talks about the cinematographer the film becoming the star and their perspectives becoming the narrative which we thought was a hilarious thing for James Cameron to say to you because that's your whole thing your perspectives on tech are the narratives you are the filmmaker you are the star He clearly had no idea who you are or what you do.
55:05It was really interesting. Meanwhile, you're sitting there having never seen a single one of his movies, not knowing anything that he does. And somehow you both arrive at this like ultra philosophical, poetic thing about the future of media and the convergence of cinema and YouTube. And like, we were like, how on earth do we communicate how profound and stupid this conversation is? And then meanwhile, Boz is just sitting there in some like outfit he obviously didn't pick himself. He's just like, yeah, yeah, totally. Like think people are going to buy metaglasses? It's just like that whole scene is like - That's too funny.
55:44You couldn't have like, yeah. I remember in the moment thinking, so I had two like visuals of that conversation. One was in the moment, I was like, I'm asking James Cameron, like someone who's clearly super visionary about what he thinks about the future of filmmaking and hearing his answer, I was like, I was first expecting something like that. I'd probably never heard before. And then I'm hearing him describe something that almost like resembles new world, like media, like creators being part of their creations. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. I guess he's probably saying that because it's me.
56:17And then after I'm like thinking back about what he said and I'm like, that actually felt like a very organic, like new thought for him, which is good because it, it organically arrived at the thing that I would have described as a future also, which is the thing that we're already doing. So I thought that was actually interestingly profound, and it worked out to be great. James Cameron is somewhere in his submarine watching this, and he's just smiling. He's just like, ooh, Marquez, do you want to come on my submarine? We had like 50 million different pieces of music under that before we finally decided on the sort of fill-up glass, minimalist classical music.
56:54That was a good one, too. Alright, I want to share my favorite beat because I thought it was also quite profound even though it's like not actually profound but I found it profound so the whole reason I'm here right now is because Miles Somerville decided to make a lot of really good YouTube videos while we were living in Chicago and I knew how to use a gimbal and we were friends so I'd hold the gimbals while he made the videos and then Marquez recruited Miles and then Miles was like you should talk to Eric and then I went into a zoom with Marquez and I was like hey you're in the life mate
57:36anyways um so like miles is the whole reason I'm here and he came up with me in a group of six other kids um I tomorrow fly to Mexico City to go hang out with these six guys we were all groomsmen in one of uh one of our weddings um we're like very very close friends we all still work in the creator economy or tech were like we were nerds when we were 14 making YouTube videos and we're still nerds now. And so it was really important to me to try to find a way to tell Miles's story and how many ways it intersects with here. Because Miles only found me because I made a YouTube video when I was 13 called MKBHD is Spider-Man.
58:19And then Miles for literal decades would hear MKBHD in his comments because people would compare them. And then as he came here, we made a video. I sat down and I interviewed Miles. And I'll give you guys this clip. I sat down and interviewed Miles the hour before he came and he started here. And the clip opens with him being like, everyone wanted to compare me to Marquez, but I guess - By technicality, I am MKBHD. And so there's all these sort of bizarre things. And so it's really interesting to sit down with Miles and get to have a conversation with him where so much of his brand curation and thinking about how to position himself and thinking about where the cars come from comes from like I can lean into a sense of humor that is inherently not Marquez -ish.
59:08And I think that there's almost this there's this joy in this tragedy and how much of his Internet identity has been informed by this place. and so i think one of the open threads that we opened at the end was this conversation with miles where he talks about his relationship to journalism and how he doesn't consider himself a traditional journalist and even though youtube has opened all these doors and gotten him at the table because of the sense of humor that differentiates him in the digital world it also bars him from this traditional class this this sort of elite class whatever you might want to call it.
59:49And I think at the end of the day, the thing that I'm most proud of with this piece is that hopefully in 10, 15 years, when the creator economy just is the economy, when new media is just the standard for media, we can look back at this time where we were still the upstarts, but very clearly positioned to become the next elite, the next big ones. And we can see the the conflicts and the back and forth and have a really crystal clear understanding for what was going through the minds of the people who were living through that changing of the guard. We are at the biggest transition point in the history of media, and it causes a lot of issues for a lot of people.
1:00:34And I hope that this piece can help start to outline the templates for what being the responsible upstanding and better form of new media can be in the next five or ten years i i hope that what we do will be remembered as as quite important because it's certainly important to people like me and miles yeah i think there's been a a lot of i almost wish we had a year in the life of so many of the years that we've had here uh because 2017 would just be like you and me sitting there. Like I used to, 2017, I used to not leave until you were done, which meant the last four hours of most of my days was just watching you edit.
1:01:20So like things have changed a lot. But yeah, they might've been a little more boring back then. Yeah. But I do, I do have memories of like, if you all the way back to 2017, like being the only YouTuber at the tech event. Like I have a lot of those memories and then being one of three YouTubers at the tech event and then being like, oh your first tech oh and then then there's seven of us and then there was 12 and then then it was half and then suddenly that you know they are setting up camera like lights and like stuff for it to be like suitable for videos and suddenly they're thinking a lot more about it and it's become really really interesting to follow all that over the years to get to the point where we are now where it feels like you know we have we have like electric cars and we have gas cars we have hybrids if you want to make the car analogy yeah we're kind of like hybrids now we're like getting to this next stage where EVs are everywhere.
1:02:07And it's clearly still in the future, but we're clearly moving in a direction. And it's cool to be able to now have this landmark, this snapshot of time where we can see where we're at. And Yiddle 2040 is going to be crazy compared to this one because we just know that a lot of change is coming. Once we hired James Cameron to make it in 2040, cyborg James Cameron is like, Yiddle that. Can I throw something on top of that that I think you should be, that I think about, I was thinking about this recently and it stems imperfectly here that I think you should be pretty proud of is you talk about how you slowly watch this, the YouTube media make it into like the journalist invites.
1:02:47and we're getting further and further in that. You've created not just a team, but a group of channels to the point where I'm seeing now, you've mentioned this before, like you think Waveform is now a top 10 tech channel just on its own. Like I think everything under our, like I think studio is probably in there. I think autofocus is, like I think this little empire that's been created here is, it's stemmed out and each channel lives on its own so well that we're going to events now and at an Apple event, I'm hearing a PR person being like, why, we need Ellis on the sound thing of this. Like they're picking people from this team that they need to be inviting to this thing.
1:03:26That's not just you anymore. That's just like this team has - We're building companies. The stuff that we've created here is big enough in this new media world. Like, again, like Miles, I think all of us here go to a place and don't consider ourselves journalists in the sense of journalists who went to journalism school and follow those standards. It's a different type. and we do it very differently, but it's still an important thing. You've built a place for us all to come here and everyone here is crazy important in this world right now. And it's kind of wild to think about that individuals of us are getting...
1:04:03I got invited to fashion week. I don't know why. I don't think that's that important. But we're at the senior level. Obviously. obviously why is that surprising Andrew I'm surprised it's the first one I shouldn't be laughing again we're all funny here it's a podcast people in this office now are getting invited to different things because of the stuff we all create and that's kind of wild we've seen a lot of channels come and kind of die off and you didn't just keep going you built a surrounding cast that they are all part of the ethos now It's kind of why. The thought that I had right after watching it when it was live that I put into Slack was basically, damn, I got lucky.
1:04:48I got a lot of talented people. And everyone who's here has kind of gotten here in a different way. Like you've told your story and Miles has his story and Andrew has his story and Rich has his story. Everyone has a different way that whether it was like I saw Vin and Brandon's work or I put out a Google form and people submitted or I just like had just random recruiters reach out to me with people like there's so much luck that has somehow turned into this incredible group of people. I feel very lucky for it. I kind of have no choice but to like make the most of it and hopefully do a lot more of this stuff.
1:05:22That's why we're going to do Yiddle till we die baby. Exactly. Yiddle 2 Yiddle Furious. The greatest sequel of all time. I'm excited for it. Well that feels like a good place to cap it off. Do you have anything else you think you're excited to share that maybe we missed anyone here. I mean, like I once again want to say the amount of work that went into this, there's no words to really talk about how much it went in. I hope everybody is like insanely proud of it. And I think there's lots of ways we can make it all to better on all fronts for everybody. Yeah. Um, but thank, thank you. It's one of the coolest things I've ever watched and being able to, we get to like show our families in the future of this.
1:06:07And it's like, I'm thinking of it now as do you know how people on TikTok are finding the like handy cam footage from high school 2003 that they're posting? Like we get a 4K version of that. I mean, our kids will be like, 4K, what is this garbage? But that's pretty wild. Yeah. Olivia, Harper, Mariah, Rich, Rufus, Alice. and Andrew showed up too and Marquez signs the tracks he signs the checks Tim did a great thumbnail Tim's thumbnail was fantastic and Brandon gave creative direction and Vin everyone contributed we don't make things on the studio channel every single person touches every single studio video and honestly the reason we do it is because strategically when we do, the videos are better and they do better but this one was definitely just like yeah it was just so cool to see everyone rally behind it and we make good work proud of what we do go watch here in the life if you somehow watch this entire podcast episode about it without having seen it spoilers clearly yeah go watch our labor of love back to our regularly scheduled programming of course on Friday but we'll see you over on the studio channel peace bye
1:07:32I could keep Marquez's camera wide open and he would still be in focus throughout the whole podcast. I think Marquez is at like 2.8 and David and I are at like 5.6 and we're still out of focus all over time.
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In this bonus episode, we get a behind the scenes look at what it took to make the "Year in the Life" video on The Studio channel! It's a behind-the-scenes of the behind-the-scenes episode as Eric and Rich talk with Marques and Andrew about some of their favorite moments that didn't make the cut (and more information on some that did). Needless to say, huge spoiler warning if you haven't seen the video yet. Go watch!
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