Jaguar Cybertrucked Their Cars?

31:59Also, the most stringed song was Espresso, which, by the way, there is a great Today Explained episode about how this was basically manufactured. How it's the most played song? Yeah, because it basically was auto-playing after anything you would play for a long period of time, and they were basically like, yeah, the music group paid to have that happen. I think I've heard that song. What? You cannot go outside. You've definitely heard that song. We've played it in the office, I'm pretty sure. It's a great song. I've probably heard it. It's a good song. Most streamed album is Taylor Swift's Tortured Poets Department is the name of the album.

32:34Yeah, it's pretty. Okay. I'm not a Swiftie, so this is news to me. Cool. And the top podcast was the Joe Rogan Experience. I guess that would be fair for Spotify to declare that, wouldn't it? Yeah. But I did some research. I actually did some independent research into that. And I found out that they were fudging the numbers. And it's actually Waveform. Oh. Oh, because Waveform I've heard of. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And if you haven't heard of it, then it doesn't exist. And they just had their big trivia extravaganza. And they just did this huge rerun that everyone was listening to. Obviously, that checks out.

33:06I will say a lot of people tweeted at us and were like, the Spotify wrap thing is unfair because I watch the YouTube podcast every single week. Yeah, that's true. But it's not on my Spotify. Yeah, interesting. If you do listen on Spotify and haven't watched Spotify wrapped, I think there's a special little treat if we're your number one. True. You don't even have to be the number one because you can go through all the little. But I saw that and I so I don't listen to this podcast much on Spotify, but that was for artists. is there a podcast one where you can search through all your podcast things good question yeah there is so there might not be there is and you have to be in the top x percent or of that artist listeners i believe and then you might see something special well i had sugar ray on there so so did i told you millennials we give you our data and we listen to sugar and it's a good time all right this is your opportunity if you had a YouTube wrapped what do you think would be in it?

34:06Whether it's a channel. Let's just do most watched channel for 2025. Single channel? Single channel that you think you watch the most of. 2025? 2024. Thank you Adam. That's why we ain't running it. Mine's probably the daily show. I'm gonna go first. Which I feel bad about but yeah. I think my most watched channel of 2024 is a channel called Ants Canada. I've heard of that actually probably because you said it Ants Canada is this guy who doesn't live in Canada who has like this giant rainforest vivarium that's like almost self-sustaining he has to like add stuff every now and then and the only reason it's my most watched channel is because he puts out a 40 minute video multiple times a week that I watch all of every single time this dude is like the master of taking something I could not possibly care about, which is bugs, and making me just care so deeply about his bugs.

35:06Every one of his thumbnails is the exact same thumbnail? He's crazy. He is so algorithmically cranked to just be a retention maxing psychopath. A war broke out in my giant rainforest vivarium. But if you want to watch some sick, sick content, there's a crocodile in there. Wow. I know. It's a crazy Bavarian. Anyway. I found mine. Thank you, Ants Canada, for making my year. His video called My Fire Ants Are Planning an Escape has 46 million views. Dude. It is a 15 minute video. Dude, you gotta. Everyone should go watch Ants Canada. It's sick. What? The next most viewed video is I gave Fire Ants a chicken head.

35:54And it's a dead chicken with Fire Ants eating it. Jesus. cockroach giving birth while being devoured by fire ants 15 million look it's lit it's lit I don't know what to tell you guys I think we should alright who's next Adam unhinged I had one very recently that you put me onto it was epic spaceman he already turned into your most watched that was like two weeks ago there's like ten videos I watched them all like twice yeah they're already i was just sitting in bed next next did you have a favorite one i think my favorite one was i forget which video it was but the analogy he used was the solar system on your fingertips it's like that is the scale compared to the continental united states it was like it was crazy yeah scale of the universe videos are that's a genre that i definitely watch a lot of i would say that's a good one um i think though mine actually i watched a lot of uh youtube golf this year there's just a lot of good stuff happening and the thing about youtube golf is there's a lot of collabs and there's a lot of really long videos because a round of golf takes a long time and they just watch they just film the whole thing so like good good golf will do a match play event or something a 2v2 and it'll be an hour and a half video and i'll watch it and i'll be eating and i'll finish what i'm eating and i'll just watch the rest of it it's just two hours right there so uh i'd say yeah youtube golf in general one of those one of those channels whether it's grand or gm golf or something like that they were killing it this year yeah mine's also golf disc golf that's like all i watch it's also long videos probably they're pretty long they're a little more cut down like 25 minutes maybe i think the only reason badanza disc golf is probably the most because he just posted so much and like every single day i could basically watch some but yeah that's if you like disc golf you probably know who he is already though so it doesn't really matter yeah how about you i unfortunately just drown myself in political commentary in the evenings and don't really watch a lot of does something happen this year regular youtube uh no no okay but um yeah that's kind of it i don't know there's a like there's probably a few new channels that I've found this year.

38:16Yeah. I just went through my YouTube subscription tab and just like... Can you sort by recently subscribed? That I don't think you can do, but you can go to the list of subscriptions, and I think it's in recency order. I might be wrong about that. I thought when you did it, it's most recent new... Oh, no. It's new activity, not most recently subscribed. Gotcha. Yeah. Some good stuff. Hey, we we have talked a lot without taking a break we should take a quick break when we come back we have obviously a game to play and some other news to cover but this begins a new season of waveform trivia zero zero

39:00welcome back to another season of waveform trivia we don't know which season We really don't. A new season. We lost track so long ago. But we've got some piping hot questions. The first of which is, so we were talking about Cyber Monday earlier. We all love Cyber Monday. What was the first year where the Monday after Thanksgiving was referred to as Cyber Monday? And we're doing Prices Right rules. Closest without going over, over being later. chronologically okay 1855 1855 yeah when uh who's president it doesn't matter uh yeah uh is that right no no minus one point from our guys we all have zero um robert hoover and we'll think about it i love the idea of the term cyber monday predating the invention of the computer that would be awesome that'd be sick the internet came after it refers to the the the mahogany wood of the cyber tree like now we will we will think about that that's a good one and uh answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right back

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42:04When did making plans get this complicated? It's time to streamline with WhatsApp, the secure messaging app that brings the whole group together. Use polls to settle dinner plans. Send event invites and pin messages so no one forgets mom's 60th. And never miss a meme or milestone. All protected with end-to-end encryption. It's time for WhatsApp. Message privately with everyone. Learn more at whatsapp.com. All right, welcome back. So a little bit of throwback, but also return to today slash this week, Jaguar. Jaguar did a thing again you remember like two or three episodes ago when we reacted to that ad that they came out with I actually think we had some pretty interesting nuanced thoughts about like what Jaguar could be up to anyway they've announced and unveiled now a concept car to go with this new rebranding effort that they're going through and how do I say this it's gotten some reactions because it's very unique looking i think red flag immediately is announcing that we're first going to see a new car at miami art week there was never going to be anything good coming out of announcing something at art week i don't even know what miami art week is but there's so many different cars shows and like events yes however most if not all luxury car brands have stopped exhibiting at those worldwide anyway um like like aston bentley like they all only exhibit new cars at like yacht shows now because they know that's where people who would spend the money on that like okay yeah so it does fit into an industry practice also i was gonna say can we start calling it the cyber jag yeah it doesn't yeah can we should we describe this car for audio listeners yeah so okay first of all first of all first of all first of all it's a concept car this is not a real car that has a price tag or any specs or anything like that.

44:02This is a concept car, so it's a design that Jaguar is unveiling to associate with their new rebranding image. That's number one. So this isn't a real car, but it's called the Type 00, and this concept has no door handles, no rear view mirrors, all the classic not real car stuff. However, they could ship a car that looks similar to the silhouette, which I would describe as a cyber loafer. So let's get into it. I think Rocket League car. Rocket League car is good. It's kind of a hot wheel sort of big wheels long hood low sloping roof line two doors um extremely long front really really kind of looks like a tow front it looks like a cyber truck and a lincoln had a child yeah and it was pink and was pink yes there's so they've had this flagship pink version there's a couple other colors that they've shown in renders but the pink one is the one that we have footage of miles got some good footage of it uh for autofocus and it is a fully electric car that's the other thing so no tailpipes it'll have a battery down there and this is part of jaguar's huge again they're rebranding as a company but they're also sort of rebooting as a car company and are just making evs now or they plan to so here's what they said they said type zero zero is the name references both zero emissions and its position as the first in a new lineage so So are we assuming lineage is the complete path or this is just a new tree branch that's falling off?

45:28TBD. So like this is the first new thing in a while. And does that mean they are stopping making their other cars? Probably not. But I anticipate they will make more electric stuff after this. This is just the first one, the flagship one, the concept one to start it off. The interior looks like a lot of those CES concepts. The most CES-ass thing I've ever seen. I don't think I see any armrests or door handles or pedals, but there is a steering wheel and there is two seats and a bunch of modern materials and sleek lines and LEDs and screens. The last time I saw an interior like this was at CES.

46:04It was like the BMW. What was that like kind of small hatchback car we filmed? Oh, not the EQXX. No, it was like, I mean, probably like 2020 when we went or 2019. and the interior looked like this and you sat in the back and I filmed you and you're like, okay, let's get the other side. And they're like, don't scoot across. The middle's a piece of cardboard. Yeah, it was. Like it was. Yes. So there's this thing that a lot of car companies do where they will build on one hand a functional prototype of a car and on the other hand, they will build a design finished version of the car and then they will sort of meet in the middle after some years of development.

46:41So if they want to show people what the car will look like, they will build a non-functioning but aesthetically accurate version of the car. And they'll show that off at the car shows and fashion week or whatever. And you can even open the door and sit in it, but it doesn't drive. And please don't sit in the middle and don't pull the steering wheel too hard because this thing is glued together. And then they have a functional prototype, which is, okay, we have the battery, we have the stuff, and it's just not, it doesn't look like the car it's supposed to look. That's kind of how this works. Wasn't there a Hummer EV we got way before production where they're like, this version you have to park it in the shade because like the steering wheel might melt or something yeah like the paint i think it was i think it was like the glue that was holding on some of the like um yeah yeah we've i've i've done videos about cars in various parts of the stage i remember back in the faraday future days i got to do one video with both it had they showed me the the driving prototype separately from the aesthetic prototype and i got to see okay now Now imagine if they were the same car.

47:41That's kind of how it goes. This one is just, yeah, Jaguar's aesthetic concept. Some people kind of like it. I don't know if it has the strongest sentiment score right now, but it's out there. It's different. It's definitely different. I think that's what they're going for. I think it's easy to go different in a concept car is like, let's get everyone talking about us. And now it's probably going to look way less pink. Yeah, or like standing out from a crowd. I don't know how to say it. It is a head turner. It's a head turner for sure. Like what is that? And then when I turn my head back, I would be laughing.

48:19It's interesting because that's so I wonder about this. The Cybertruck kind of went through the same thing. Online was one reaction and in person was a totally different reaction. And I'm reading all the online reactions and it's very slanted in one direction. But I think if you drove this thing into a ShopRite parking lot right now, people walk over and be like, ooh. what is this? This looks cool. Tell me about this. How much is it? Like, I think this would get that. I don't know. It's going to have to have a price tag eventually. Like, they're going to have to sell a real car someday. But, yeah.

48:48Also, I have a theory about this whole thing. Okay. I think Jaguar, when they started to make their rebrand, this whole thing, they've been frustratingly not changing their target demographic for so long that I think that the mission behind this was to do absolutely nothing the same as the previous cars. Yeah. Not the font, not the size, not the shape, not the angle. Not a single thing can be the same as before. I think that was the mission. Because the old brand doesn't really tell young people anything. Young people have no perception of what the Jaguar brand meant to them at all. So because of that, they're like, well, young people know the name Jaguar.

49:32They know it's a car brand, but they don't have any association with what that means. So they're able to leverage the existing brand name, but they can give it a completely new identity and not really ruin anything. That's fair. I'm trying to see if there's any other specs because there was an event and there was a CEO on stage. And I think they said something about a thousand horsepower. So I just want to find it. Why is the hood so big? For the vibes. Aesthetics. I don't know. There are cars. There are cars. That would be like a huge frunk. It would be a coffin frunk. It would be like a hot tub frunk.

50:05that would be sick okay so there is a little bit of spec talk for this concept car okay uh the grand tor will have a wltp range of 478 miles that seems like a lot and probably will not happen that's because it's wltp it's wltp but it's also probably not going to happen but hey we will see there's no word on the battery capacity required to achieve this there's uh but a charging speed of 200 miles added in 15 minutes with the right charger is another one of the promises okay it will be at least 125 000 ish dollars which is about double the price of the average jaguar transaction but again this is all new um and is there a date okay i'm looking for a date i thought last time we read this it said end of 2026 okay i remember the date we were saying was quite a ways out from yeah jaguar said it would end production of all internal combustion cars by early 2026 no no sorry no no uh this this year oh i don't remember dang wait sorry i'm reading this for too fast the on sale date of the new jaguar has been delayed by a year and having said it would end production of all internal combustion engine cars this year they said it this year but not by this year oh um that this car will come out sometime after that interesting that was a lot of ways of saying we have no idea this car is coming yeah yeah yeah you know it's a concept car so i think i take all these things a little bit more lightly but at least we have uh an aesthetic now yeah different it is different it's different i'll give it that i don't think it looks horrible they could finish rendering it it might look sweet yeah it did two passes this is huge about About 8 ,000 more passes.

51:50It has like a Rolls Royce type of characteristic going on. I think it's like the Spectre. Remember the Spectre? Mm-hmm. I like that car. It has a little bit of that too. Yeah. I don't hate it. I'll say that. We shall see. Cool. In other car news, people have been begging Tesla to make an Apple Watch version of their app for literally a zillion years. Serious question. Have they? Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Moving on. I have been. It makes sense. Yeah, and it's like, yeah, it very much makes sense. So last week, this is probably related. Actually, it's definitely related. Last week, Tesla pulled a Reddit and started charging a bunch of money for their API, which basically forced a bunch of third-party Tesla apps to shut down, of which I did not even know that there were third-party Tesla apps, but there apparently were, and they were very popular.

52:43There were a few. One of the most popular ones, the person that is developing it, stated it would cost them$1 million a year to keep running it. So, yeah. They basically Sherlocked it because with this holiday update that they do every year, they released an Apple Watch version of the app. You can have phone key access, which means you can walk up to it and it'll unlock, give you charge stats. You can pop the frunk, remotely warm the car. You can view dash cam and sentry mode recordings from your phone and save them quickly remotely. That's huge. I love that. Which is pretty huge. you can also now set an arrival energy which lets you tell the car how much power you want to have when you arrive so that it dynamically changes how long you should charge at the superchargers which is useful i drove to pennsylvania this weekend and uh i got there at extremely cold extremely middle of the woods with 10 charge remaining on my car and i was fairly nervous luckily i was able to plug in my car to the house again it still only added like 13 but if i hadn't been able to do that that would have been scary so that would have been useful uh and then there's some other improvements so yeah at least there's an apple watch out now and those all sound great it's funny that you say they pulled a reddit because reddit pulled a twitter and we've just gotten full circle at this point yeah good point everything's copying x that's crazy yeah yeah yeah uh mercedes also released an apple watch app this week.

54:11Which is nice. Seems like everyone's getting on it. Subaru 2? Well, they already had one, right? No, for Apple Watch. Their phone app sucks. There's no way. And they don't have key, phone key entry that I know of. Not in the app. Not a lot of cars do. I don't think so. There's only a few that do. Like the Polestar did, which is nice. Just a few do it and it's convenient. The watch key, that's very convenient. Yeah. You're just wearing a watch, you walk up to the car and stuff. Rivian should do that because they have that bracelet, which kind of wants to do the same thing, but I don't want to wear an extra bracelet.

54:43If it's just on my watch, it would be sweet if they did it for Garmin, also Rivian, coming from someone who doesn't own a Rivian. But a Garmin. If you're not driving your Rivian, how else will people know you have a Rivian if you're not wearing the special bracelet? That's true. It's fair. You just have a Patagonia jacket on. A neck tattoo. Yeah, that's true. Patagonia fleece. you exclaim i'm from colorado anywhere you go i saw i saw two rivian r1 t's driven by people who did not know each other like next to each other at a red light when i was in detroit and how do you know they didn't know each other because i saw because they turned on to the red light from separate directions um and i was like they might have known each other yeah you I can't know that.

55:32In Detroit? Those two people are listening right now, and they're like, that was my brother. That would have to be like a coordinated meetup. That'd be sick. This was during Thanksgiving, right? Both live in the same town, going to a different family member's house. Yeah, definitely. No, because this was in downtown Detroit. No one lives there. I don't know enough about Detroit to continue this story. I just want you to be wrong. Detroit is cold. Detroit is cold this time of year, and I think an all-wheel drive EV makes sense in Detroit and it was cold and having four-wheel drive electric torque grip helps boy it doesn't it helps that's crazy well yeah that's the other thing about being in Detroit because last time I was there I was close enough to GM's HQ that you would just see tons of random new GM vehicles and kind of wonder if these people all are testing them or if they work for GM driving company vehicles it's just kind of a vibe where like they are all over the city.

56:31Something I noticed. I hope I never go back. Anyway. We're sorry, people. Detroit. It was way outside of Detroit. It was really miserable to get there. Oh. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, great. They have the Apple Watch apps for the cars. You can get into your car. Shout out to the people with those new cars. Great. Cool. You want to do trivia again? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. Trivia time. That's way better. Uh, uh, uh. trivia dude so jaguar isn't only the name of a car company it's also the name of cat it's also a big cat specifically and the processor inside the ps4 pro the jaguar processor inside the ps4 pro was made by what company get wrecked it'd be sick it was made by jaguar we're pivoting it's really slow wow okay yeah i didn't know it's called jaguar that's yeah i didn't know that either well i'll make a guess and that'll be at the end like usual we'll be right back

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59:33I thought I was smart. So this must mean something's happening. Andrew, explain. Take it away. So we have a little game to play. this game is 100 % stolen from a podcast I was listening to the other day so shout out the Griplock podcast it's a disc golf podcast but I thought it was pretty fun and I thought it could be turned into a tech thing so explaining this it's a little complicated I'll try my best the goal of this game is you guys want to find the most expensive things sold on eBay in the category that we are going to give you the way it works is we're going to have three rounds in each round you have a set number of keywords you're allowed to use so we're going to do the first round you have three keywords the second round you have four keywords the fifth round you have five keywords so what i'm going to do is i'm going to give you a category you are going to give me three words in the first round to type into ebay to try and find the most expensive item being sold on ebay okay but are we we're not allowed to order our search results by no no you guys aren't going to go on ebay at all so what's going to happen is i'm going to give you the category you're going to tell me the three words to type in.

1:00:41I will type them in and then I'll tell you to pick a number between one and 10 and I will pick that in the sold listing of eBay. Does that make sense? Oh, I think so. Why? Isn't that just kind of chaotic? Wait, so we give you the keywords? Yeah. So you're going to give us a category. Sure. So I'm going to give you an example here. Okay. Here's the other twist. Okay. Once a keyword's used, it cannot be used again by anybody. Okay. I think I'm starting to understand. I get to use military. Okay. Oh, no. Here's, so here's an example. Uh-huh. Adam and I thought of if the category is computers and you have three keywords, someone might tell me to type in MacBook Pro M4.

1:01:18So I'm going to type in MacBook Pro M4. I'm going to go to the sold things under that search. And then I'll say pick a number between 1 and 10. You pick 3. I pick the third listing and I say that sold for$500. So you have$500. Oh, it's just random. If Marques uses a keyword, I can't use that. None of you can use keywords. So no one at that point can use MacBook Pro or M4. for the rest of all of the rounds. I have one more really annoying question. Good. Can a keyword be like a compound or does it have to be like literally a single word? Can you give me an example? MacBook. No. Okay. Because then they'll steal it.

1:01:57MacBook is one word. Like for example, a keyword could be, what's something that I would never use? You're thinking of claw grip or like yeah that's how it's generally you can't tell me like i've heard enough throwing all of them with no spaces counts as one word and you know ebay will fix it i know you cannot i'm ready we'll do okay so we'll start i think the first round will be a good introduction into it you get one keyword for each round but you're losing all of the keywords people have used i get it okay so the category for all three rounds is just phones we're searching for phones being sold on eBay.

1:02:35They have to be a singular phone. It can't be a lot of phones. So if for some reason the one you pick, like if you pick number three and it comes up and it's like 10 iPhones, I'll just pick the one after it. That's a singular iPhone. Okay. Does this make sense to everybody? I'm giving you three keywords. The first one's going to be three. Okay. Can I go first? Well, you guys can decide who goes first. Yeah. Is it just in order or do we use buzzer? We should have some sort of fair determination. I have a number written down on my computer right now. Okay. Whoever gets closest without going over goes first.

1:03:09Oh, without going over? Between zero and 20. Without going over? Yes. 16 7 Ellis what is your number I'm looking into his soul I know this man so well I know him so well that I know for a fact he picked the number 4 the winner is Marquez the number was 14 I knew it you got the 4 right exactly that's what I'm saying so it's Marquez goes first then Ellis then David so I want to max I want the highest priced phone yeah just real quick three keywords you're going first so you can say anything we'll say the word phone can be used by anyone as many times as they want if you want that to be one of your keywords okay gold plated new that's it and gold plated i assume is two words okay hold on i'm gonna it needs to bring up a phone i'm not putting it in the category and if it's not going to...

1:04:18Okay, so phone is... Oh, I see, I see. Gold-plated new phone. That's four. Yeah, but didn't you say you could use phone as many times as you want? It counts as one of your words. Well, I would argue gold-plated is one keyword. That's what I was hoping. That's kind of what I was... Gold-plated phone. Gold new phone. How about just gold new phone? Gold new phone. Yeah. Brave new world. Now, it's not going to be gold-plated, so I need to think what number to pick. Which one would be... Number? Gold... Because, like, the first one is just going to be a phone with, like, a cheap phone with, like, a gold case or something.

1:04:48I want to pick the... Give me the number four. Just put some dollar signs in there. Okay, so... Dollar, dollar. Uh-oh. I'm going to give you number five because four isn't a phone. Number four is two angry bird plushies. How? So does that count or does that not? No, I'm just going to give them... I'm always going to go one down if it's not inside of the category. I want this to still be tech related and still show tech things. So you have an Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max just in gold. It's not gold plated, but still good. Sold for$690. Nice. Okay. They listed this at$1 ,600. iPhone 13 Pro Max. iPhone 13 Pro Max.

1:05:33One terabyte. What was the price? $699. That's pretty good. Guys, I hate to break it to you. I secretly suspect that I'm about to be the Barry Bonds of this game. Okay. Putting up ridiculous numbers. Yesterday, Adam and I went over this. we went back and then you two were looking at stuff on ebay and david's like you have to search the sold function of it and we're like talking about this and adam and i were just staring at each other did you know how to do it yeah okay i've always done that yeah all right um will you let me use inbox as one keyword that's what i said yesterday that was my example it's two words that's two words okay then i'm gonna my first word is going to be mint my second word is going to be original and my third word is going to be mother f***ing iPhone that was my exact example that's pretty that's pretty insane number one you could strike out with a number oh no I didn't like that look I did not like that look that was bad iPhone 15 Pro Max original silicone case no oh is a phone in a case It's not in a case.

1:06:43It's still tech-related. The other thing was an angry bird plushie. Okay, what was number two? I'm going all the way down to try and find a phone. Here we go. Okay. You can buy an original iPhone 2G for$23. Good luck, Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds didn't always hit a home run. He whiffed a few and then he cranks them out of the park. He's still got time. You know, one of the most famous people from my high school was the personal trainer for Barry Bonds. That's the easiest job in the world. So the analogy is that I'm about to be your personal trainer. Wait, hold on. Let's, real quick before you do that.

1:07:22I think the case should have counted because it's still phone related and in the phone category. Well, no, no. So let's just go from now on if it's in within the phone category because you have to be specific about what you're searching for here and vague doesn't always help. Can I just say pixel ninefold? and you can number three all of those none of those words have been used yet pixel nine fold okay and number three david one it's gonna be used one with a broken screen you got pretty unlucky here google pixel fold 512 gigabytes 173 dollars you put nine fold well yeah somebody put that in their tags just a pixel fold came up right above that was 1300 $1 ,900.

1:08:08Oh! So that was a great choice. Unlucky guess. eBay's search engine is bad. I think that's part of the chaos of this game. That's part of how SEO results change the content. Okay, that's true. That's a good point. That's a direct example. Can you update with score? This hurt. First round. I'll take that point, though. I can't believe I wasted mint. It's not a point. It's all of these go together. Oh. Oh, yeah. The most money spent at the end is the winner. Oh, you can grand slam at any point. I almost got it. Because I just got$23. No, you got$15. So after the first round, in first, with$690 for his gold new phone is Marquez.

1:08:51$173.61 goes for the Pixel 9 fold, which is actually just a Pixel fold. It was$173? $173.61. That's a cheap Pixel fold. It was damaged. It's damaged. Yeah. There you go. and in dead last for now is ellis with 15 and 59 cents with the words mint original iphone i really thought i had it boys so now you cannot use any of those words moving forward okay i'll try to remember all right so for fourth category back do you want to go back to marquez or do you want to snake it and have david start on this one snake it i think snaking it's the more fair way okay david start you have four keywords for this round oh and it's still phones still we're gonna do phones the whole way through.

1:09:34Oh, still phones? Still phones. Okay. You have less words to say, but you have one more word to enter into the search. Okay. An iPhone is used? Correct. Frick. Yeah, it's a lot of resale right there. I'm helping you. Just from that one word.

1:09:59New, Apple... Wait, new is already used. Oh. Okay. Damn refs. Wake up. Apple one terabyte 5G That's it. Oh, but you can say phone as many times as you want. Wait, we get four now? Yeah, that's what this is. Wake up, Ellis. That might work. This is how I'm typing it in and I'll let you guys be the judge of this. Because I'm counting phone as a keyword. So I have Apple one tb as a okay 5g phone yeah i agree i think that that should be number two oh no no yeah this is pretty apple iphone 13 pro max one terabyte green 635 okay not bad well played could have been worse there you go yeah but that was a great you are you are guaranteed 500 up to like 800 but you were not striking out on that search good so one tb is used yeah and if you use five twelve.

1:11:03All right. No, we're going to we're going to we got to pull out some big bucks here. So I'm going I think there's one y 'all are missing so far. Huawei Trifold Unlocked That's exactly what I was talking about. And for my fourth word I choose Phone Fun Mate XT Is the trifold a mate? Yeah, mate XT Mate XT Wait, I shouldn't have told you that Yeah You can only pick mate or XT, I think Oh, are they? They're two words Huawei trifold unlocked mate Interesting order, but Yeah, send it, send it, send it Order doesn't matter in SAO Just kind of goes away Oh, I gotta give you a number now You do Yeah This is a real lottery 14 Three I like never pick one I picked three and it It shot me in the face last time I don't like this look 5 ,599.

1:12:04Oh, my God. Let's go. You got a cash register sound in there? Cha-ching. That was good. That was really good. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. Unlocked. You were right, Marquez. I shouldn't have given you. Barry Bond strikes out, but boy. Yeah. When he hits. When he connects, that thing is. That's for real. Okay. Wow. Unlocked. Okay. I can't use new. I can't use. $5 ,000? Okay. Here we go. Here we go. It has to be phones? phone category. Do you think they're on eBay? I'm gonna take a wild swing, because I don't know if these are on eBay. Okay. Now, who had the moon on eBay? Not Escobar. Can we even catch Caviar?

1:12:47I haven't searched that deep into this, so maybe. I'm gonna try. Dang. Caviar iPhone. We can't do iPhone. Caviar verified. Mmm. We used original already? Yeah. You did, yeah, you did. Caviar, verified. I think I have to say phone. And 512 GB. Yeah. What number? What number?

1:13:21Number two. Okay. So it's not a caviar phone, But you somehow hacked into still getting iPhones. So it's an Apple iPhone. Well, I think Caviar only made iPhones, right? I do think so. I think so. So Apple iPhone 15 Pro 512 for$787. Okay. Not bad. Made a dent in Ellis' lead, but that's okay. Just out of curiosity, were any of those actual Caviar? None of them are the actual Caviar. They're all iPhones. No Caviar phones. How else am I going to get five grand? So after round two. That's what I'm wondering. Do you guys want to know your totals or just the totals? Okay. So, so far, Marquez has$1 ,477.

1:14:06Ellis has$5 ,614.59. David has$808.61. Ellis far in the lead. Respectable. One round remaining. Who will win? Anything could happen. I wonder. So five keywords. Okay. Phone still counts. it still has to be a phone. Do you want us to go over all the ones or we'll just tell you if it's It still has to be a phone. Yeah just tell me if we Phone category I'll say And now we start with Ellis. Uh we start with Marquez again. Yeah Snakeback. It just goes back Oh. So it has to be a phone and I need to find a phone that's selling right now for $5 ,000 to take a lead over Ellis and have a buffer for when he gets something $5 ,000 so the Mate XT Well it doesn't have to be selling right now because it's purchase listings I don't know how sold works I assumed it was more recently yeah sold okay

1:15:08and I kind of want to stretch the definition of a phone but that might not work I don't know

1:15:18let's go industrial working industrial working are you looking for the dogo phone or dogo dogo doji no those don't go for five grand I'm looking for like the phone that like hooks up to the tractor there's no way this costs five thousand dollars this isn't gonna work this is a failed strategy I have a good idea I saw the spark in both of your eyes as Marcos started talking we're probably gonna say the same thing if we get a smart watch would that count or does it have to be like a phone I think phone should be it needs to make phone calls or be a phone accessory because of the cases before accessory the Garmin Lockheed Martin collab smartwatch that pairs with the F-22 Raptor in the cockpit like that doesn't I don't think so we allowed phone cases I don't know if it's the F-22 Raptor but Garmin does make smartwatches that pair with fighter jet cockpits.

1:16:23But we're saying, like, if I hit the, like, Garmin$2 ,000 smartwatch, that won't count because it doesn't make phone calls. It seems like that's what we're... Yeah, no, I... All right, yeah, let's try it. Phone-shaped. Okay. Yeah. Working, Motorola, briefcase, phone... I was gonna do a similar thing. Yeah, I was gonna do, like, original Alexander Cranbell. working Motorola briefcase phone

1:16:55what's the fifth word that's gonna make sure it's expensive vintage why are you helping him I can't say original I can't say new inbox I can't say classic inbox was not used was it not because it was too it doesn't even come out of box let's just go with uh pristine pristine good word okay so before i click search i tried to search this the other day and maybe my keywords weren't great but nobody's i don't know what's gonna come up here i don't think anybody sold these on ebay okay there's plenty of things that are in the category yeah you're fine give a number okay five i didn't i didn't a moto g powered gently used and partially working.

1:17:45$13.38, baby. $13? $13. MotoG power. Oh, my gosh. What a backfire. Under that EZO I'm going to get for lunch is$14. There was a working vintage Motorola car phone under that, but it's still only$25. Oh, wow. I am going to go with a very different tactic then because I was originally going to go there, too. I'm going to do... We're going to try something crazy. We're going to do official Does it pay phone count as a phone? No. No, I'm keeping strat. Official. Signed. Mm. Rare. Mm.

1:18:31Phone. Authentic. Diamond. And I want you to choose. Before you look this up, I have signed some phones. Am I screwed? Two out of the top ten are actually phones. So whichever one you get closest to. And I'll read some of the other ones.

1:18:57Andrew, just answer me this. Are either of the two phones worth more than$100? Yes. Somebody signed a phone. Number six. Okay, you are closer to the more expensive one. An Apple iPhone XR. What? It says Rare iOS 13 Grade A. I don't know what that means. It's$154.99. Who is it signed by? It is not signed. The number one is a Joe Montana signed football. What is it? How much was that? $77. What? Flappy Bird. Oh, no. You remember that? I have an idea. You just, Marquez, you cost me a game. You just cost me. I lost the radio. It's not going to be that. I don't think they're yeah I don't think you can download the APK off APK David you just need they sold like at one point that's true if you can get something that's$5 ,000 secure the win how about AT &T emergency response industrial did we actually use that or he didn't wind up using it And then flappy bird.

1:20:16That's too many words. Flappy bird is a proper noun, right? Just flappy.

1:20:23Bird. Just bird. No phone? You're sure? Oh, wait, sorry, phone. Bird phone. You gotta pick one. Okay, so... AT &D emergency response industrial phone. Okay. Diamond. All right, pick a number. Luxury. Four. Please. It's probably not going to be expensive. I'm going to give you... Please. Give me the one that's$5 ,000. I'm going to be very nice here, and I'm going to go one above it. Okay. Because yours is an emergency phone print ad was number four. So I'm going to go for the 4G LTE cellular dialer phone elevator emergency communicator. Elevator? $159. Let's go! Because under that was a phone that says$999 crossed out and says best offer accepted.

1:21:19So I don't even know what that means. Do they have any of the AT &T like briefcase emergency response satellite phones in there? It was satellite. Satellite. Oh, I should have said satellite. Satellite probably would have been a satellite one. I should have said what's the thing that's in space that's orbiting Earth? The moon. ISS. Oh. I should have said ISS communication device. If you'd said original Starship Enterprise communicator, would you have gotten credit? From TV show? It's not a phone, but it would have been really funny. So in first place was$5 ,769.58. Made XT. Ellis Roving. Let's go.

1:22:01From the desk to here. Came to win. Took it all. Coming up the rear with$1 ,490.38. Respectable is Marquez Brownlee. Let's go. And all the way in last is David.

1:22:20$968.56. David Emma. I like this game. I would play again. I want to say Ellis getting the Mate XT over both of you guys was very surprising. I'm very surprised either of you didn't get that. I knew Ellis was going to go the like autographed, like vintage route at some point, which I thought would be fun. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully you liked it. I thought it was fun. We left it at just phone as the category. So in the future, maybe we could do computers or something else. Can you try one more search for me? Just out of curiosity. Okay. Can you search MKBHD signed phone and see if anything comes up?

1:22:55Have you signed someone's phone before? I've signed a lot of phones. And I'm curious if someone ever listed it and sold it on eBay. I just want to know. so you can beat them up. I just want to know. My theory is I'm taking value off your phone when I write on it. Wow. Here's one that would have won, though. What? What? Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max signed by Jaws. $15 ,000. And it sold for that? Yeah. How did that not come up when I... Yeah, when we did iPhone, we should have done signed. I think you did too many authentic... I did do signed. But it was without iPhone. Yeah, it was. It was just... Fair enough.

1:23:29Yeah. Damn. Jaws? Really? Hey, see, he adds value. None of us thought of that. Yeah, none of us. That's too bad. I bet Steve Jobs signed iPhone would be insane. I don't think that exists. It probably exists. Steve Jobs signed iPhone. There's probably at least one. I don't know if it was recently sold on eBay. Yeah, but that would have to be like a first round pick with your keywords. There's an office poster signed by Steve Jobs that sold for$32 ,000. Dang. Would you have accepted that? No. We wouldn't have gotten points for that. You can't make a phone call on it. It's especially because it's a poster about the Macintosh.

1:24:02there you go I feel like one day when we play this game we should just have no category and just see who can think of the most expensive things on eBay Buick no just kidding no that was fun I think we should bring that game back at some point that was uh and maybe we should switch it up and go from like Amazon to like random like bestbuy.com just to see it's a fight of like do you go old new what is the listing going to be? Like how chaotic is the listing going to be with keywords? So yeah, I thought it was fun. That was fun. Shout out to the disc golf pod as well. Well, in order to switch back to regular trivia, I think we have to do a little shuffle.

1:24:41Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. Should we do the magic? Definitely.

1:24:49What? Get out of my seat. You have to clap then. Whoa. Oh, Jesus. Oh my goodness. That would like hurt. like normally they're easy but like I don't know that one really hurt going through there audio listeners they teleported by clapping it was great in real life you know what time it is you know what it is I think that's the number one song on Ellis' Spotify wrapped it's the trivia song do you know the name of that song trivia dude I believe it's called would you like another pineapple that is some truly royalty free you know who's really unaffected by SEO royalty free music. Yeah, but they're very affected by AI.

1:25:32The name of the song doesn't matter. It's called Another Pineapple Please by TheFlyGuy5. I love that. I agree. And no one will ever find it on Google. No, but it's not royalty free, so you can't use it. You gotta pay for it, like we did. Like we do. Question number one. Can I steal one? Please. Please. question number one price is right rules uh what was the first year that cyber monday was used as like a marketing term and uh this question might be a little confusing because cyber monday was coined in the middle of the year to describe the year before uh like oh a lot of people bought stuff that day so we're going to call that cyber monday but then it was used as a marketing term for the first time in the year that i'm looking for and it's price is right rules so if you guess a year later than the correct year you are disqualified what year do we think it is who would like to go first actually david should go first i want is it because i'm the most wrong uh you're not the most wrong okay uh i wrote 2006 that unfortunately is later than the year in question all right so i'm wrong so 2010 yes wow i was debating going 90s i said 2002 that is uh not the right year but within the acceptable parameters the correct year is 2005 oh really 2005 why don't we ever do delta internet mattered enough then uh that was the first year that people or so people into in early 2005 uh were looking back and were like wow people bought a lot of stuff online right after thanksgiving and they started 2004 in yeah thanksgiving 2004 and then throughout 2005 they're like oh i guess there's this sort of black friday online we'll call it cyber monday and started as like an industry term coined by one executive named Ellen Davis and it from what company?

1:27:43She was not an executive of a specific company she was at one of those like trade groups called the National Retail Federation that sounds the most capitalist thing I've ever heard of in my life National Retail next question Jaguar isn't just the name of the car company are you going to do that every time? it's also the processor inside the PS4 Pro, which was made by what company? There's a PS4 Pro as well. There was. I had the PS4. That was my first ever console. Dang, really? What? PS4 Pro. Ever? My first ever console. Yep. That's it. Wow. Go under yourself. In the middle of college, never had a GameCube or any of those other ones.

1:28:26I had a PS4 Pro. Wait, was that in the apartment where you guys had that little kind of half room between the bedrooms and you had that giant curved TV? Flipperman Reed, what do you got? Ah, crap. Oh, boy. Let's go Marquez first. We all wrote different ones. I wrote NVIDIA. NVIDIA? Yeah. Nope. Dang it. I wrote Intel. Intel? Mm-hmm. Nope. David? It's AMD. It's AMD. It's called an APU, suckers. What does that mean? Something processing unit. Is it AMD processing unit? It's probably advanced processing unit or something. or like all in one. I don't know. I should know this. I don't really know. I don't know this.

1:29:09Well, I'm officially carrying the one now. David's carrying the one now. And I'm where I should be behind everyone else so I can come back in the trivia extravaganza. It's an accelerated processing unit. Interesting. That's a beautiful, beautiful place to be with nice, even round numbers for trivia. Oh, yeah. Wait, what? When has it not been round numbers? Also, these are not even numbers. nice odd round numbers zero is a number is zero even a number? zero is a concept all numbers are concepts or both? I think it's even is it a number but not an integer? I'm not saying anything more because I'm an idiot or is an integer or a positive integer?

1:29:57it is an integer but not a positive integer zero is an even number according to Gemini no also according to B-Y-J-U apostrophe s.com what is that i have no idea there is also a wikipedia page called parody of zero uh thanks for listening yeah thanks for watching hey yeah thanks for watching thanks for listening this week thanks for joining us for a new season of trivia and uh yeah we'll we'll be back on our regularly scheduled well we are but we'll be back even more on our regularly scheduled programming next week see you then peace waveform is produced by adam malina and alice rovin we're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our entire music was created by Vane Silva.

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