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Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Episode Summary
Episode Title
New Final Cut 11 Has Some Big Updates!
Episode Overview In this episode of the Waveform podcast, Marques Brownlee (MKBHD), along with co-hosts Andrew Manganelli and David Imel, discuss the latest developments in tech, particularly focusing on a new version of Final Cut Pro. They also touch on various other topics, including recent news from the tech industry, and a fun trivia segment towards the end.
Key Highlights
- Discussion of Recent Content
- DJI Video Reaction: Marques addresses the mixed reactions to a recent sponsored video featuring the DJI Action Camera 5 Pro. He reflects on the challenges of sponsored content and audience trust.
- Sponsored Content Insights: The conversation explores the nuances of accepting sponsors, the importance of genuine product endorsements, and maintaining the audience's trust.
- Headlines in a Hat Segment
- New EVs from Scout Motors: Discussion around the revival of Scout Motors and their new electric vehicles, the Terra truck, and Traveler SUV, both set to have unique specifications and features.
- BlueSky User Growth: An increase in BlueSky users is noted, driven by dissatisfaction with other social media platforms and the platform's more controlled feed options.
- YouTube Testing Changes: YouTube is testing a feature that allows users to scroll through videos similarly to TikTok, prompting discussions about user experience and content consumption habits.
- Final Cut Pro 11 Updates
- Magnetic Mask Feature: The episode dives deep into the new features of Final Cut Pro 11, particularly the Magnetic Mask which simplifies rotoscoping through AI technology.
- AI Captions and Translations: New functionalities for generating captions and translations efficiently, potentially saving time and money for content creators.
- Spatial Video Editing: The introduction of spatial video editing capabilities, especially for those who create content for Apple's Vision Pro.
- Trivia Segment
- The hosts engage in trivia, covering topics related to MIDI, car history, and the existence of various classic cars.
Key Takeaways
- Sponsored Content: The importance of transparency and authenticity in sponsored videos is emphasized.
- Social Media Landscape: The shifting dynamics of user bases from established platforms like Twitter to emerging ones like BlueSky shows a desire for more user control and a return to simpler interfaces.
- Final Cut Pro Enhancements: The advancements in AI within editing software signify a major leap forward for creatives, allowing for more efficient workflows and enhanced capabilities.
Conclusion The episode wraps up with a light-hearted trivia session, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and humor while reinforcing their knowledge of tech and automotive history.
Links & Resources
- [Marques Tweet on DJI Video](https://bit.ly/3YRKIkx)
- [Mariah's Menu Video](https://bit.ly/4ex0gzG)
- [Verge Zefiro Article](https://bit.ly/4fthKhI)
- [Bluesky Stats by jazco.dev](https://bit.ly/3CrwZtb)
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Note
This episode exemplifies MKBHD's deep understanding of technology and his thoughtful engagement with the audience's concerns regarding content credibility and platform usability.
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Transcript
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1:20Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. And today we're going to play... play? Is it a game? Oh, we can call it a game. We're going to run through. We're going to have a session of... We're going to do a thing where we have hats. Now I'm confused. Headlines in a hat. We're going to do Headlines in a hat today, which is great. We've got a whole bunch of stuff about Blue Sky. We've got Final Cut updates. I'm also on the fence about a laptop decision. Maybe we'll jump into that with Final Cut, but also a new EV company and more goodies.
1:53But first, I do think it's worth having a conversation about sponsors because of the last week or it was the beginning of this week uh we put a video on the main channel uh dji a dji i always say that too fast dji video uh with the action camp 5 pro and it was a full sponsored video and the reactions were very strong um i think obviously the the main thing or the the extra thing on top of that was i did something very dumb in the video uh with the car with driving so that was cut out of the video and rightfully people were very mad about that but aside from that the whole conversation about sponsored videos sort of comes up every once in a while and i think it's kind of interesting and i'd maybe worth revisiting maybe not but i think it is uh kind of interesting that basically i look back at the history of the the channel in the past couple years just to see what the rough frequency is what the cadence is we've done roughly one sponsored video per year and one fully sponsored video and i think there is some nuance to it because we've talked about sponsors before on the show on this channel on other channels and there are different types of sponsorships there are mid-rolls there are end roles that are like right at the end of a video there are pre-rolls there are full sponsored videos there are sponsored segments inside of videos right so there's a whole bunch of different versions of a sponsored video and we've tried to mix it up.
3:20But I think here's my main takeaway from doing a sponsored video in the current YouTube climate that we're in, which is, I'll ask you guys a question. What do you think is the ideal sponsor to say yes to? Because we've accepted a couple sponsors and we've also said no to 99.9 % of the things that show up in our inbox. what makes the ideal sponsor to say yes to? Is that the Taco Bell chime? That's a great example because you can speak to why Taco Bell would be a good sponsor. I know the answer you're looking for, and I also understand the issue with that being the answer. What you're going to say is it's something you genuinely, you like and enjoy, and outside of being paid for it, you think is a good product.
4:11Right. I think that's... I'm assuming that's what you're looking for. That's about what I would say. yeah is that what does that make sense yeah that's okay yeah and i but at the same time i 100 see that it can seem untrustworthy to say hey i really like this product but i'm also getting paid for it and um i do think that's one of the reasons we picked this as one of the you know i think you said the last sponsored video was insta360 in september 2022 that was the last sponsored video Yeah, fully sponsored video of like a single product. And so when DJI came to us with this, we've been using the DJI action cameras for a while.
4:51Alice and I used it to go in third person like over a year ago. They're pretty cool. And one of the main reasons we could do it in that video is because it has this like really neat feature of being able to plug in. And I'm also going to preface this. We did just get paid by DJI. So even everything I'm saying now should be taken with a grain of salt. Totally fair. In any way, shape or form. But it had this like webcam feature that was totally plug and play. and that's how we were able to just plug it in and go third person. So we've been using them for a little while but we liked the product. We thought it had a couple cool features and we looked back to see the last time we did an action cam video and it was 10 years ago.
5:25Funny enough, it was being a dog in 4K with a GoPro, a video that people thought was sponsored because at the end of it, you put the GoPro logo. I was inspired by the GoPro commercials and I put the action thing at the end. Yeah. So yeah, I 100 % see why no matter how much you like a product, if you get paid for it, it seems disingenuous. And there's no real way to prove that you actually like the product there. Yeah. Yeah. And I think in general, it kind of, especially when the channel reviews a lot of products, it just isn't the look anymore to do a video. I think the nuance basically is lost that it's not a review.
6:06I think that's what it comes down to. I think a lot of people watch that video and thought two things. One, because this is an ad, I cannot trust anything that is said. So even though I actually have a lot of plans to like record more things outside the studio and do all sorts of other things with cameras that aren't the red in the studio, that just kind of gets ignored because it's a sponsored video and people want to focus on that and I totally get it. And then if you do other videos that are in a similar style, people no longer know if they're sponsored. Even if you're extremely clear about disclosing it and follow every rule to the T the best you possibly can.
6:43So I think my learning is like, okay, yeah, fully sponsor videos. I think I'm done with those. And I think we still have lots of ways of integrating sponsors that we really believe in their products and actually like and use in ways like we do here on the podcast and we do on the studio channel and like we've done with Midrolls and Dope Tech and all sorts of other fun places. And things that are unobtrusive to the regular content we're putting out. I think like doing these end role things is kind of something that we've fought with advertisers or like different companies with pretty hard and are definitely taking a hit in terms of what we're getting paid because we'd rather put it at the end of a video than the beginning of a video because it interjects less into things.
7:24but um yeah no matter what we say and i get like you should take every single content creator like with a grain of salt on anything that they say that should just be like kind of how you tackle anything in media at all and um the only thing we can do is try and prove our trust which we haven't been doing the best of job lately but i still truly believe that we're a trustful organization yeah um i think i also i watch a lot of youtube i watch a lot of youtube and i actually watch when people do integrations in their videos and most people probably don't they probably but i watch them i watch a lot of videos and my least favorite type of um integration is when it like interrupts or just like hard cuts and shifts to a ad read that doesn't feel like the creator cares about it at all or actually cares about the integration or wants to make it entertaining or anything like that.
8:24You do see that sometimes. And I think a good integration is the opposite of that. So I still think that that's true. And I think that there's good ways to do that. But that's something I keep noticing. I wish ads were better which is the general uh evergreen statement nobody loves ads but that's uh that's something i noticed if anyone was looking at the action 5 after that and is worried that it's a sponsored thing there's a bunch of really good content directly comparing it to the gopro hero 12 and hero 12 now i believe and the new insta 360 i forget the name of it but um there's some really good ones out there and i watched like all of them um but yeah that's i think the end of that unless anyone else has anything to add to i also think we kind of messed up with the title but yeah exactly i think there was a world where we just called it a dji action cam 5 showcase and that was it um the video that i made i didn't want to just i think if you're a sponsor who makes a product you want a video to look kind of like a review i wanted the opposite of that it should be very clear that it's not a review so i did a video talking about different ways to use this camera and obviously talked about the features um but yeah i wanted to also title it in a way that included that stuff which ended up i think yeah being a mistake and it shifted too far towards people thinking it was kind of baity like oh you're talking about like a big update where It's just a video about a camera, so that is totally fair.
9:59But we do have other things to talk about that we can jump into. Yeah, now we can get into Headlines in a Hat. Who wants to go first? Whose hat is this? What do you mean, whose hat is this? Why do we have that hat? It's Zorro's. It looks like it, but Zorro doesn't work here, so I'm just kind of wondering. Yes. Anyway, okay, yeah, we can just jump in. Start with Headlines in a Hat. You're on first. Am I? You're picking out of your own hat. I feel like that's bad luck. Do you want to go first, David? Okay, David, go first. Pick any headline. All right. I got Mariah's new video. This headline comes to us from YouTube.com.
10:42Mariah herself, the video editor here at the studio, just launched her first video on her personal YouTube channel, and it is about the very unhinged, really, really old menus that are all stored in like the same place. Yeah, there's someone who collected a bunch of old menus throughout the years and it's in a New York public library, I think. And she went through them and it is fascinating and wild and she did a great job. Did you all watch it? I watched it, yeah. No, it's not linked anywhere. Oh, I will link it in our Slack or after. We will link it in the description. But she does a great job at like going through these old menus and providing context of what the times were like when that happens.
11:22And then I think at the end, she visits one of the places that's still around Delmonico's Steakhouse. It's been around for like 100 years. I went to Delmonico's a few weeks ago and I did not know she was working on this video. So I just sent her a picture of one of the really old menus in the world. She's like, how did you know? I was like, how do I know what? That's awesome. Steak's pretty good. It's a really, really good video. We'll link it. But if you have any interest in food or just history, it's well worth the watch. Mariah has a very unhinged, but also creative. What do you mean? Mariah is completely hinged all the time.
11:58Right. Yeah. Anyway, it's a fun video. You should go watch it. Next hat. One more before ad break. Okay. Hmm. Problem is we get one of the long ones here. I'll try to. We're going to have a look. Yeah. Try and pick the short one. I don't even know what that is. Let me try a better snare drum roll. Hold on. Here we go.
12:21that was all right oh usb c midi controller okay i got this one did you see this yeah i checked i i read the script before the show okay do you want to explain it then because i was going to explain it to you to see what you thought sure i'd be happy to explain the zafiro okay i'll i'll start explaining it and then lsu can jump in okay so no it's not thunderbolt 5 um an italian startup is working on this usb c accessory for mobile devices that basically looks like if you plug the vape into like the bottom of an iphone and then it can you can blow into it and then use controls on the screen to essentially create a i don't know how to use the term midi if i'm being honest but a midi wind instrument does that make sense so it's like you can change the sound of the instruments and then through blowing through it and using the different controls like a regular wind instrument now your phone becomes a wind instrument you know what's really funny it's always really hard to explain to people how midi works and what it is but in in this room and with our audience specifically i can relate it to something even more nerdy and arcane that that all you nerds actually know about which is the way keyboards work with iso standards where when you hit a key on your keyboard it's sending just like a number to your computer right and then your computer goes like oh what language am i looking at what what font is selected right now and then it actually pulls the character, right?
13:49But there's this transference of information between rote number on a keyboard to perceived experience by human beings, right? And that is exactly how MIDI works. Like MIDI is an information for storing the notes, when they're played, how loud they are, and how long each note is. And then you send that to an instrument that ingests that and spits out musical tones. And so through this controller, it's using the breath being able to judge how long it is, potentially how loud it is because of the amount that you're blowing into it. Yes. And, and the finger buttons that you're pressing on your phone will tell you what notes it is.
14:27And then you can plug this into a, or wirelessly hook this up to a computer and control any instrument in any audio software with it. Um, but yeah, it seems pretty nifty. I would like to try it for those of you that don't know, I, uh, play wind instruments, so I would really like to try this there. So there is like an established version of this. It's called the ewee which stands for electronic wind instruments like been around since the 80s uh but this thing seems pretty cool how much was that the ewee different people make different ones it's not like one thing it's like it's like a family that different people compete on i think right now the cheapest ones are in the three to four hundred range and the most expensive ones are in the twelve hundred dollars but that's like a whole instrument like a physical instrument that you hold so what's cool is not Zephyro Artinoise Artinoise is the company I think the Zephyro is the name of the product so the Zephyro is sort of like the the mini version of Artinoise's flagship product which is the mouthpiece attached to a full recorder so that you can play it like a recorder or play it like a digital instrument which I think is like a really that looks so sick education tool.
15:36But yeah, I'm curious about this. When I first saw it, I was like, David knows what I'm talking about. Do you remember Smule? Is that the company? That made all the OG iOS music apps? And they had an Ocarina app. Do you remember this? Where you'd blow on the microphone of your iPhone 3GS and play. And so I'm sure this sensor is probably better than just blowing on the microphone but it does seem like uh it's a similar thing so yeah if i got my hands on it i would i would totally play it play it for you guys flex my saxophone and flute skills um i will note that this is a new kickstarter with very it has passed its goal of of backing but just for context on like what it is slash isn't.
16:31It's not shipping yet. We're hoping it becomes real. That's what I do think because of the real. When's the last time you saw a Kickstarter where the goal was$5 ,000? All the time. Really? Kickstarters are really. Well, there's a lot of companies now that totally have the funding to just make a product. But for some reason, they launch on Kickstarter first. It feels like a preorder process. Yeah. Where like it's most likely ready to go. But like, let's do the safest preorder way possible. and that's what this is you were mentioning$400 for a full instrument I know this is not the same but this is about$50 which is pretty awesome it is awesome the$400 ones are professional for people who have real music jobs I feel like that costs more than an actual instrument $400?
17:22yeah well my trombone didn't cost that much my ocarina was i have a really nice marquez if that's how you feel don't ever look up how much a professional bassoon costs a trombone is 150 250 i guess that's like it's like maybe instruments are like i don't want to say watches but they're kind of like cars in that the price to performance ratio that you can aim for is widely varied based on price range you can get $20 ,000, you can get a$5 ,000 car, you can get a$5 million car, and there will be differences. Yeah, but then also, Marquez, remember that a lot of instruments are made of wood, which introduces a whole other factor of where was this wood cultivated, what year was this tree cut down?
18:16Because that's going to affect the density of the wood, the harmonic distribution of the wood. Anyway, enough Ellis Music time. Those are triple bass ocarina for$2 ,000. All right, we're off the deep end. This thing seems really cool. If you're interested in learning how to play a recorder, which people joke about it, but the recorder is a really great way to get your first musical experiences. I think this could be a cool thing for you. And then also, if you're interested in going from something like the recorder to producing music in Logic or Ableton, it does seem like you can use the Zephyro as a controller for that.
18:52So if you get good at recorder, now you can make sick beats. with the recorder the recorder to dj pipeline yeah it's real anyway thank you andrew for giving me a chance to talk about instruments you're welcome let's hit the hat yeah we should take a quick break we have we do have time for a break but we also have time for trivia trivia so we were just talking about midi question about midi for you it stands for musical inner instrument digital interface so that's not the question that i'm gonna give you can you just play a song in midi and we guess what song it is no you can't that was the whole thing is you can't play midi yeah midi is just like notes it's just the information yeah it's like saying it's like trying to damn it did my it'd be like it'd be like typing on a keyboard not connected to a computer and then being like read this all right let's start this over play the music sorry challenge don't trigger Ellis on MIDI.
19:53Oh my god. Impossible. The question. Ellis mentioned that MIDI has velocity. I didn't. Yeah, you did. I don't think he said that. You said it has this, this, this, this, and what is velocity. No, I said... Guys. I said... It's the length of the note and it's how loud the note is, which is velocity, but I didn't use the word velocity. You're too smart. We need to leave this all in. For the third time. This is the hardest level of the challenge. The value of velocity in MIDI ranges from zero to what? Ooh. That is the question I have to guess. We're all going to guess the same thing and we're all going to be wrong.
20:32Oh, man. Well, I'm writing it anyway. I think it's right. Well, it's for later. Okay. Well, we're going to think about it. If you want to think about it, you can think about it too. The answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back.
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22:49All right, welcome back. We have more headlines. It's the same hat, but here you can see there's headlines in the hat. Andrew, pick a headline. Let's talk about it. You looked at that one. I did, and then I can't read it. Okay. I have the Scout Motors EV. I saw some posts about people fawning over this thing. We had a lot of people say, why didn't you talk about this last week? All right, let me look into it right now in real time. Yeah, I'll give you the quick breakdown, the early breakdown. So Scout Motors, which I was not aware of this because I believe it was before any of us were born, was an older legacy car manufacturer.
23:24They stopped producing it in 1980. I can see where this is going. You were around back then, weren't you? Get out of here, Adam. Well, they're back now as a new EV startup, but they are under the VW group. So VW owns them. Okay. So we have a little more backing than our regular Lordstown. Maybe. you know, startup section. But they just announced their new truck, the Terra and the Traveler SUV. Both of these vehicles are sitting on an EV platform that they created that they're not using from VW. They're making their own EV platform, like battery base, just different types on the top. Claims could be starting under$60 ,000, but it's not going to be produced till 2027.
24:07So who on earth knows if that price will be - Also, every single time we hear a price from a car manufacturer, it's 30 to 40 % higher when it actually - Pretty much. even like some of the like rivian launched with the high price it said and then still was like no they jacked it by 30 right yeah but like they they like launched and had all the pre-orders in and like paid for and then tried to put it up and yeah not a great but um yeah suv and a truck they are um extremely similar to another company owned by v or partnered with vw now which is Rivian. Yeah they look just like Rivian. Actually I believe the Rivian partnership pretty much just went through its first stages of the like billion dollar loan that they're and it's like five billion over the next x amount of years and they do say that like part of this could potentially come from that VW is licensing Rivian's zonal hardware design so we probably are going to see some rivian uh similar things in here and probably in the software as well um and they do look this is an r1s and an r1t pretty much with yeah instead of circular lights they're like bar lights slot or like slots yeah um but yeah scout used to be this kind of like utility-ish off-road fun sporty type of like vehicle and they're focusing a lot on that one really interesting thing about it is these will have a gas powered battery generator for extra range where there is a fuel tank but all it does is run a motor that charges the battery and i'm assuming this will mostly just be used for if they're talking about off-road that much like if you're really going off-road actually off-roading and might need extra range or hopefully if you like ran out of range and then you needed to charge the battery to get to the charger like if i'm stuck in traffic on the jersey turnpike okay i'm intrigued i mean i'm scrolling through this website this website is extremely elaborate and frankly probably costs as much as the car is it's super it costs more than the car because it doesn't yeah this is a crazy elaborate website so shout out to them for the website but um i'm scrolling through i'm looking at the pickup truck specs body on frame it says pure electric models offer up to 350 miles of range and then the extended range models offer 500 miles of range or more through the built-in gas power generator so fun fact we're testing an ev or a hybrid right now that's doing the exact same thing it's called the lee auto l9 that has a gas generator it's the new it's the other one not the mega oh yeah so the l9 outside has uh i think it's like a thousand kilometers of range when you come or like 1400 kilometers combined but it's always driving from the electric drivetrain the battery just either charges up via regen and plugging in or the gas power generator so you're always driving on the instant throttle and the efficiency that comes from the electric drivetrain built in but with a little bit of peace of mind that if you need to go you don't have to plug in you can just fill up with gas and the generator can get you some more range it's a i like that idea it's cool um there are others that do that as well the other question mark is like okay is this is this company gonna actually first figure out how to manufacture these and ship them question mark by 2027 we'll see uh if they can execute on it like they did on this website it's gonna be an incredible truck yeah i need to you are not kidding about this website it starts with a video which is like i'm not always huge into videos but when you scroll down and the cars drive at you based on your scrolling and then swap into the old scout yeah that is pretty serious level of whoever is the web designer there shout out this is incredible we'll know where all the money went when they don't deliver this yeah this reserve now button down here might be going straight into this uh internet or the website design really serious oh my goodness so when you go to reserve you can buy the electric only version up to 350 miles of range or you can buy the electric and gas version and it's a hundred dollars and it is refundable until your order is confirmed options and pricing may change i think yeah i i see the rivian comparison for sure a lot of the colors look like rivian a lot of the shapes a lot of the general vibes of outdoorsyness and adventure look like rivian so that's great people love that i mean this truck looks like a rivian from the side yeah from the side like every shape of the every part of it pretty much so yeah the question is like do you think this will get there or do you think uh ford will make the bronco electric first like what's gonna do what's gonna happen first who knows but i like it it's cool i think ford will announce the electric bronco before the ships and then just who ships first yeah because i remember the rivian was announced and the cyber truck and they were kind of like which one will come first the Rivian came out first and then the Cybertruck came out after so people were just kind of like trying to pick between them people meaning me um so it's curious to see like is are people going to put money down for the Scout 100 bucks kind of nothing so they can just sort of drum up reservations and attention and that's great but then yeah what happens between now and when they ship we shall see I don't do you think Ford's going to do an electric Bronco I thought recently they were like kind of cutting back on some of their EV stuff and well i wonder if the bronco is gonna be i think they should do a maverick because that's so i think there's a couple things in their lineup that would be awesome as evs or as hybrids like this both of those i think the maverick i think the bronco uh and i think the audience of people who like the maverick and the bronco and associate it with the outdoorsiness that the scout is trying to have there's like a big overlap there yeah i here's my i was talking about this with miles the other day do you know the silverado has the and i know this isn't just the new silverado ev they did it in the avalanche i think where the like what do you call it where the wall behind the back seat yeah yeah midgate maverick would be awesome because like it's smaller it's not an absolutely absurd size truck but i'm assuming the bed of the truck would be about the size of like a tacoma not to mention that's some fire alliteration right there midgate maverick midgate Maverick.
30:29That's kind of sick. Do you know what the size of the Maverick bed is? Probably about 4 or 5 feet. 4.5 foot. But it doesn't matter because everyone who owns Maverick is not using the bed. No, we know. We have the data. People who own trucks do not do truck stuff. We know for a fact. For the most part. Don't lie. F-150s by the most part are family haulers. Exactly. But, you know what would be even cooler than an electric Maverick? What? If we brought back the 90s Ford Ranger and electrified that thing. If you want to talk about bringing back old things and electrifying them, I got something for you.
31:09Wait, were you here for the F-150, the old F-150 EV? No. The F-100? Oh, the F-100. I know. I was so mad I missed that. The F-100 was incredible. I'm talking about the Ford Ranger is a pickup truck the size of a thimble. You can fit it in your wallet. It's so small. Is that a two-bro? And this is what we need. Like it only has two seats yeah there are multiple configurations across the 90s oh but this thing is cute and puny is this not that much what is this size compared to a maverick uh let's find out america wants big trucks unfortunately yeah i know that's why i like the maverick because there's a trend going towards smaller trucks still trucks but smaller there's some there's this the hyundai santa Santa Fe I saw one today Santa Fe or Santa Cruz Santa Cruz yeah Santa Cruz is the truck yeah I love that I saw one today it's small but is that popular at all it's a foot and a half shorter it exists the old ranger is I see it once a day at least oh thank you is that like versus the like the new maverick was the old ranger is there a four door version there is yeah it's shorter than the four door version by a foot I would assume it's probably about the same size as the four-door version.
32:25The four-door version of the Ranger is still a few inches shorter. Okay, so about the same size. Yeah. Yeah, small trucks. I mean, the Rivian's a small truck. No, it's not. What are you talking about? It's like a Tacoma. I promise the Rivian is a small truck. Compared to some other gigantic trucks. No, I mean, yes. Like, the default truck, the full-size truck that when most people see a pickup truck that they get is an F-150. And to us, it's massive because, yeah, it's massive. that is the normal size truck. There are larger trucks and smaller trucks. The Rivian is definitely smaller and there are bigger trucks.
32:59There are Hummers and Silverados and others. The Maverick and Santa Cruz are significantly smaller than the Rivian though. Significantly in big size or total? Just like full size? I don't know if it's that different. I have a question that I think will tickle our brains a little bit. Yeah. What is the lightest an object can weigh and it is still massive? massive yeah like for us to describe it as massive or excuse me actually let me i i think i'm actually asking the opposite question that i mean to ask like because you're saying the rivian is not a massive truck right i'm saying the rivian is a smaller truck right but how how heavy does something have to be before we're like no that's massive regardless of size how heavy does something have to be before we're like no that's massive even size out of the equation just wait that's Well, there's so many categories.
33:49I don't know. Yeah, but just before something, I'm not talking about the definite, I'm just saying before it feels massive, before our soul goes, that is massive. Just vehicles? No, anything. Anything. Any object, regardless of size. What is the weight? What is the weight point? There's like bumblebees that weigh one ounce, and there's the massive two ounce bumblebee. Look at the size of that thing. It's huge. It's all relative. Fair enough, fair enough. But, you know, is it a ton? Well, a ton is massive. Debating semantics. Right. It depends on the object. I'm looking for our souls here, man.
34:22You know what I mean? Put an F-150 up and tell me the same category. No, no, I don't disagree. I only bring this up because the Rivian is 7 ,100 pounds. Definitely. All the electric ones are heavier. The Cybertruck is less massive. So how do we feel about that? The hard EV battery is 6 ,000 pounds. Oh, my God. Yeah, EV battery with weight is tough. EVs just throw weight in a total mixer. Yeah, but I have to say, I think it's fair to call all of these things massive. The F-150 weighs much less than the Rivian, but no one would say it's less massive. It's way bigger. Right. That's all I'm saying.
34:57They're not actually talking about weight when they say massive. I know, but I'm just trying to open up our brains and our hearts to like, maybe it's all massive. Yeah. Well, I hope the Scout happens because it looks cool and it seems to have a nice system. You know, the hybrid thing is cool. I think a lot of people want that. So I hope it happens. Now you can have an EV with one of those cool gas tank accessories on the back that you never use, but it's not totally pointless. It's built in. So you can still tell people you go off-roading without telling them you go off-roading. Sure. Someone needs to put a snorkel on it.
35:28I want an EV with a snorkel so bad. I've just realized we only have two more headlines in here, so one of these better be long. Actually, both of them better be long. I think they kind of are. I don't know which one I'm going to get. Please give me the Blue Sky one.
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35:42YouTube. scrolling feature. Where is that one? Did you see this? No, what's a YouTube scrolling feature? So there's one of those feature flags that they test on random users but don't necessarily roll out that they do all the time. And they're testing one right now where as you're watching a full-scale YouTube video on your full-scale computer, if you scroll down, it just TikTokifies full-sized videos. Do you guys have it? Because I do. You have it? Mm-hmm. and so okay here I'll just show you ready also wait it's only phones it's only Android phones I believe right now is what they're testing it on so right here you know like a little badanza disc golf but swoop now we've got I don't know who this is swoop let's see Joe is hungry best channel on YouTube Joe is hungry is the best channel on YouTube these are not random these are related videos I think it's essentially a new way of scrolling into your related videos recommended videos yeah recommended you know hockey we haven't hit waveform yet it's because I watch all the waveform episodes though I wouldn't recommend that good call good save yeah I'm interested in this I think it the immediate reaction is this feels like TikTok and that's not a good reaction in general yeah well to us but YouTube is like yes it's this perfect that's exactly what we want to hear okay what if they changed it so that as you swipe it goes to the most watched part of the next video would that change how you feel about it that would be awful terrible don't give them ideas i know they're listening engagement spiking uh man can i throw out my why i don't think this is that bad okay sure why i hate it and why i don't think it's that bad okay so normally if you're in full screen the best way to get to another recommended video is you either have to get all the way to the end cards but let's be real a lot of youtube videos the last minute might be a little bit of like an outro that i don't always watch and i won't get the next related videos or in my end card until it's all the way at the end or i have to get out of full screen so i can take the risk and just swipe up and i don't have to leave full screen and i could get there my biggest issue with it right now is i didn't even know this was a thing and i've randomly swiped away in a video i'm actually watching because i like oh i try and swipe down for a notification i do that all the time i'm like i saw a notification in full screen and i try and just swipe down the top to get to my notifications and i swipe into a video and i've lost my place so if you swipe down it also either way different videos up or down yeah oh i don't like that yeah yeah up or down is crazy it should only be well i guess tiktok's up or down well yeah but down is that's if i'm like trying to swipe from this yeah yeah oh yeah but then i'm going up so either way history yeah so it's like a tiktok carousel now yep yeah yeah the thing that youtube has always had that i feel like has been saving us from the brain rot of the current internet meta is the fact that you still have intentional content consumption where you are picking something to watch and yes there's an algorithm that is like serving up options of things that you watch and sure sometimes you just click on whatever's available because you just want something to play but i think that many of the problems that we have in the world right now are because people are just being served stuff and having no intentionality behind what they're consuming i fully co-sign in addition youtube historically has this thing where they're they are the biggest video website ever right but for some reason they feel the need to also chase other media they feel the need to chase tv and netflix and tiktok because they feel like threats but they constantly introduce either experiments or features that to me just feel like what if we were more like netflix if you go to the youtube summits and you listen to the way they talk about youtube on tv like they are constantly thinking about netflixifying that experience and having these huge high-res like you know cover art things which it's nice but it's that's chasing netflix they also chase tv all the time they try to like intermingle the talent bring tv talent to youtube and put youtube talent on tv and they have tv features like they do that all the time and it doesn't shock me at all that they're doing a tiktok thing obviously shorts has taken off but like why not longs too like just they're trying everything so yeah it's just the thing that youtube's always willing to do which i i guess you give them credit for being willing to you know change things up because you could be the same forever you could be vimeo but they're trying new stuff so good for them i guess that's the one thing they have not tried to be vimeo yeah it's true they don't have to be vimeo nope yeah there's a uh a mark zuckerberg quote that is really relevant here which is in 2012 he said if we don't create the thing that kills facebook someone else will yeah that's a yeah well yeah that kind of goes off what you were saying was like they're they're scared of these other options i think that that's definitely an element for things like shorts maybe we're like oh we have to or ai or whatever all these companies are like if we don't do this we're going to be left behind i also think since they're owned by google and their stock has to keep going up they have to look at every possible category and say hmm two percent of americans consume this content but what if they consume this content on youtube instead right so that's just they're looking at all the available markets that they could just totally trounce on and replace that category completely yeah and that's why they're doing tv and netflixifying everything and it's fun to watch like the occasional like you'll see like a big push from them to like bring traditional hollywood celebrities to youtube you'll see will smith and ronaldo and all these people start youtube channels and you're like who's this for yeah and you're like well i guess it's the people who are watching them on tv right and now they're going to be on youtube mission accomplished well and everyone has smart tvs now you know so it's like what if you could watch everything on the youtube app instead of the individual yeah i try it i exclusively watch basketball on the youtube app yeah yeah and YouTube and there's YouTube TV too so I watched YouTube game I watch games on YouTube TV and I watch highlights and analysis on YouTube yeah I'm just on them in their universe the whole time I never leave I don't even need a cable subscription Elon Musk thought he could make the super app but YouTube is out here making the super just alphabet does it feel like YouTube kind of like makes these change or tries to chase these things and then just kind of gives up on them yeah like it's also youtube red and all the things they were like let's attack tv our own stuff just kidding and like live yeah live streaming and gaming they were really hard into like which let's pay for all these twitch streamers and bring them over and like and just i don't really care anymore that's a classic google move some of it it totally yeah some shorts works shorts is there and it's competing with tiktok yeah a lot of the other stuff feels There used to be a whole separate YouTube gaming app.
42:57Yeah. Remember that? I remember that. That was like peak Twitch competition. I remember sitting in my office chair and reading the article about it and downloading it and being like, hmm. Yeah. We'll see how long this lasts. I'm guessing that one didn't hook so well, but YouTube music still exists. So maybe that, you know. Well. Becca still listens to every podcast on YouTube music. YouTube music. People who use YouTube music. Was birthed off the backs of giants. And when I say that, I mean Google Play Music. Yeah. Which. So now they're competing against Spotify. It's a beautiful application. here we are yeah competing is a strong word but yeah trying to bring people having an option yeah yeah existing so i'm surprised there's no youtube messaging app to one thing mariah brought up with this that i didn't think about was that thumbnails wouldn't matter in this situation yeah i mean this is the insane thing to me about tiktok shorts all short form content in general is like you have no control over how the algorithm is going to serve your video.
43:54Whether or not you can optimize certain parts of the video to have things that maybe the algorithm likes, I don't know. That's also a terrible way of making content that makes everything horrible. But when you just have short form content like this, it's like, or just infinitely scrollable content. David, can you speed this up? I'm trying to optimize for the next 30 seconds of the podcast. I'm just, I don't know. The more you strip from the creator's presentation, it just we're yeah it's not good it's i don't like it have you guys seen minority report yeah we're heading towards a future where like consuming content is just like the precogs like we're like floating we're floating in the milk and then like something gets served like straight into our brain we're like yeah i think we're all like that a lot right now i don't think this is as big of a deal like this isn't something you still ultimately have to be inside of a video already that you've clicked on on the homepage to even get to this part to me it's mostly just a quality of life blunder because it i can accidentally switch out of a video right i'm actually enjoying totally and then i have to go find the spot because like every time i've done it it hasn't brought me back it's brought me back when i flip back i'm at the start of the video and that's really annoying i'm so sorry that you're in this experiment opt out stop experimenting with I'm assuming this will not be available for kids either.
45:17I don't think this is... Personally, I think this is not going to work and they're not going to roll it out because I think they're going to find that YouTube as a platform is a more intentional platform at all. Well, I'm just thinking because I know they don't let kids use autoplay. So I'm curious, is this the same thing? They're already surfing just like us. Is this different? I guess YouTube autoplay is basically doing the same thing without the swipe. Yeah. Yeah. As far as I can tell. I don't know if the engine for what it recommends for a swipe is different from autoplay, but it feels kind of like it's the same thing, but just a voluntary I'm done two minutes in versus just getting to the end.
45:56Yeah. Probably. I guess it's the same thing. It's kind of the same thing. Just a different movement. Yeah. Wait. So would it swipe irregard? Oh, but this is for mid... Now I'm so curious. Wait. Would it not autoplay if you have this feature? Would it swipe anyway? It would probably autoplay at the end of the video if you just like let it play through. but if you swipe, then it's just going to the next. Right, but there's already a next video arrow on the screen. It's probably the same video. It's probably just another. There's just two ways of getting to it. Yeah, that'd be my guess. Kind of like on TikTok.
46:22Have you ever noticed when you're on a thing and you try and back out of the app, it just goes to another video to try and keep you in? If you always swipe up, it's the video you tried to back out of. All the back button doing is swiping to the next one and trying to catch your attention as fast as possible. Yeah, there are these new gesture paradigms that a lot of these applications that we've grown using kind of created. Like Tinder created the swipe right equals yes, swipe no equals no paradigm. And now everything uses that. And it's the same kind of thing. TikTok kind of created the swipe up to keep doom scrolling or keep brain rotting.
46:59So now we're here. It works. Now we're here. It's very effective. Highly effective. Highly effective. Highly effective. Okay. How many more headlines do we have? Two. Two. So two more after the break? we either do one now break or two after the break i think either way it'll work let's do both after the break oh yeah wow i'm gonna all right so earlier in the episode we talked about a car company that doesn't exist anymore that made cars that don't exist anymore scout which i looked it up scout was owned by a tractor company that's pretty hilarious right harvester international but now I have in front of me four cars that don't exist anymore.
47:40And I need you to tell me which one isn't real. Which one did I make up? A, the Renault Le Car. That's right. The car is called Le Car. B, the AMC Gremlin. C, the Isuzu Mysterious Utility Wizard. D, the Subaru Brat. Or E, all of these are real. Oh, gosh. I hate this. Oh, no. All of the above? Damn, I don't recognize any of those. That's tough. What, you've never heard of the... Oh, sorry. My bad. The Isuzu Mysterious Utility Wizard was sold in the U.S. as the Honda Passport. But outside of the U.S., it was the Isuzu Mysterious Utility Wizard. If it is real, that is. If it is real. If it is real.
48:28Yes, in the U.S., Honda Passport. I hope that somebody has painted their Subaru brat bright green. That'd be great. Wait, does Honda love the letter P? I'm just realizing. Prologue. Pilot. Ponda. Pivic. The Honda Pelement. Are you kidding me, guys? The Honda Element should be an EV. No. Why? Because it's a car meant to get wet. What's wrong with EVs? EVs can get wet. Not like the Elements. The Elements was like, you're supposed to hose it out on the inside. Yeah, the element has a drain. They should just make the Honda lithium. Or cobalt. I think it's a good time to take a break. We'll be right back.
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51:39Here we go. Here we go. Retention graph. Here we go. You guys know how much I love protocols. Buckle up. So in 1957, this thing got launched into space. Wait, first of all, is this real? October 4th. Because here's what happened. I saw this on my timeline, and it was like a headline that said, a bunch of Taylor Swift fans are leaving. Oh, that is part of it. That is also a part of it. And I read that headline and I was like, no, they're not. And I kept scrolling. Oh, no, they definitely did. Am I wrong? Okay. So when you say they did, is it like a few dozen of them? Was it like 150 of them? When you talk about Taylor Swift, a dozen is not a number in that scenario.
52:24You are talking tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. They operate exclusively in 500K units. I guess I'm operating on the tech blog scale of we need to report on a trend. And if I see five tweets about this, it's a trend. Sure. Is it more than that? I agree with you that too many people write articles based on like one tweet. Right. I agree with that. But I also think a lot of the old like Tumblr-esque, just like very quick Stan-esque accounts are on twitter and taylor has a or had a very large twitter uh following but now does not tweet i haven't fully followed it but like i would not be surprised if they moved to blue sky okay okay to be that somewhere else i doubt it okay okay so uh yeah okay so basically every single time x does anything which is all the time uh people leave and so basically people have been leaving that for blue sky recently every time they make a flunder or people just want to leave the platform and also it used to be that people were flocking to threads but people are finally realizing that threads is just tiktok for words because threads does not give you very much control of what you're seeing like at all there is technically a follower feed on mobile but you can't default to it so you're always going to go to the algorithmic feed uh it's a lot of people just from instagram and facebook there's a lot of random out of context threads like farming yeah and then the algorithm is like incredibly strong at if you engage with anything by even like clicking into it just to read the comments it's going to serve you a lot more of that stuff can confirm so on threads it's really easy to just see a lot of stuff that like you know you click on because you're like what and then your whole feed becomes that right now my thread is like you live in New Jersey you want anything that just says the word New Jersey I got more of that yeah so also you know I think people are realizing that another meta platform is maybe not where they want to grow their audience at and this kind of sucks because we did an entire episode on activity pub which you should go watch it is a really cool protocol that a lot of things are starting to use but threads currently is kind of the bastion for activity pub because it has 275 million users as of last week but in the last like week or so we just hit 14 million users on blue sky and now 15 million users on blue sky and my entire threads feed probably just because i engaged with posts about it are just people saying i'm going to blue sky here's my new handle so so it's like a super high frequency echo chamber creator yeah is what threads is yeah yeah there's a guy that made the statistics website that just tracks blue sky likers and users and posters over time and so just in the last couple of weeks they've weeks they've gained like tons of users how many is tons though they're up to 15 million and they gained I think I saw they gained a million or something they gained like two million in the last week and then they gained a million when Brazil got temporarily banned from X that was a few months ago which was like yeah like two months ago or so okay so I don't know I mean I think it sort of feels like they're growing blue sky is very cool they use this protocol called the AT protocol uh where basically you can have your own custom feeds and you can kind of control the way the algorithm works it's almost the exact opposite of threads because threads is just like we're going to do the algorithm for you.
55:59And on Blue Sky, you basically create your own algorithm. They have this feature called Starter Packs, where if someone that you follow decides to make a pack of people that they follow, you could just instantly follow all the same people. So it has a lot of onboarding features that I think people really like. And it feels exactly like the old version of Twitter. The interesting thing about competing protocols is always going to be that there's a long period of time before we see anything that universally wins out. So unfortunately, ActivityPub is like the protocol that's published by the W3C.
56:32And so it's not owned by anyone. And that's awesome. Unfortunately, Blue Sky is owned by Blue Sky. And the AT protocol is open source, but it's still owned by a company. Like Blue Sky is still owned by a company. So kind of pick your poison. I don't know if we're ever going to get back to a point where we had the same social media that Twitter used to be. I don't think that's ever going to happen again. But it's just been really interesting seeing people kind of like moving around to all these different options. Yeah. This website is really interesting. Yeah. I'm trying to contextualize what 15 million users looks like and like the rate of people joining per day.
57:12The bottom of the website, maybe we can link this in the show notes, shows followers per user percentile. So if you have six followers, you're in the 75th percentile of all of Blue Sky. And if you have 400 followers, you're in the 99th percentile of all of Blue Sky. So that just means there's lots of new people. Yeah. Because most people have zero followers. Right. They're just joining and hopping around, following a few people. Yeah. Yeah. That is indicative of activity. Yeah. I specifically like that you can just default to the following feed and just look at everything, all the people that you're following.
57:44There's also a popular with friends option, which is algorithmic, but based on the people you're following, which is a nice sort of narrow version of that. And then there's discover, which is what's popular. and then you can follow your own feeds based on feeds that people create. So it's very intentional social media, which is very cool. You don't have it defaulting to the dog pics feed? What's wrong with you? It's funny because there's a picture of a dog on his screen right now from Tom Warren. But yeah, I don't know. It's fun. Do you have it on your phone? I do have it on my phone. The app is really good.
58:15It actually was originally only on. Yeah, yeah. I was on it when it was invite only and messed around for a while, but that was not a great experience. Yeah. because that felt like a lot of kind of what threads feels like right now which is like hey i'm new to threads who can i find here that's like cool to chat with or whatever which is kind of weird but um i've been on threads a lot more lately i don't really like it because it's addictive and no well that's the thing i don't like i i've stopped i took twitter off my phone i put threads there and i've been calling threads like the nicotine gum of like my social media experience right now of like if twitter was the cigarettes that i was using all of the time i'm like i need to stop twitter let's go on threads and it's like and it's basically like oh i i press i put it in the exact same spot on my phone where twitter was so i just default click it and then after like three posts i'm just like i don't need to do this and then i don't do it yeah and then it's it's slowly weaning me off of that level of like quick post social media and now i just play the pokemon on card game instead.
59:19Yeah, yeah. Which is really good. It is really good. After we talked about it. The thing I love about Blue Sky right now is like the alternate feeds. So I can use a feed just for looking at news for the podcast. And I can also use a feed for what my friends are talking about. And when you go to the friend feed or the following feed, yeah, not friends, just the following feed, you can kind of scroll down until you like, oh, I recognize that post. Oh, the last time I opened it, that was the first one. So now I'm done. And then you get off. Chronological feeds. It's great. I miss Google+. we could have had it all google plus was the google glass of social media yeah think about it think about it it was ahead of its time anyway yeah it's fascinating it is growing a lot i kind of think where they fumbled was they kept it invite only for too long there was a period of time where it was extremely hype because it was invite only but if you do that for too long i think arc also had this issue and many applications will have this issue where they just keep it too closed off for too long and then alternate alternatives pop up and people lose interest and if they'd opened it up like four or five months earlier i think that they would have had a lot more growth but it's interesting to see their growth right now anyway yeah um yeah so i feel like social media is just turning into this thing of like you get really into it then you don't really want to use it anymore but you kind of have to keep it around for some sort of contact with a couple people at this point now facebook and twitter is just like i've realized i know people on there where that's the only way i can contact them so i have to keep them but maybe i should just ask for their email or something yeah yeah email is forever i don't post on my personal facebook but it is like it's all my family it's an era of communication basically yeah yeah anyway yeah it's been really interesting to see that grow keep tracking it you pick you want me to pick yeah make sure it's a good one yeah make sure it's about protocols that's right it's about pro it's about pro it's about final cut pro final pro updates is the last one and uh god i'm i so i'm so torn i have so much to say here where do i start it's a big update okay perfect this is at the end i'm gonna try to keep it as short as david's blue sky context how about that okay okay so i've been reviewing this macbook pro right m4 max it's the equivalent of the m1 max that i've been using for years and i've been like teetering on is this finally the one i should upgrade to i really it's very much faster than wow this nano texture is so great like it's got thunderbolt 5 it's future proof i think this might be the one i don't need it i maybe i should get it um final cut pro updates come out really really solid updates i think some of us saw this coming because there was some sort of uh teasers in the keynote but uh it's final cut pro 11 and the main new feature is called magnetic mask if anyone's been editing videos for more than a few years you've at least dabbled in or heard about rotoscoping which is a very difficult manual technique but to cut out the subject of a video right so if you've had if you have a photo of the subject in the front you know photoshop has gotten advanced ai tools to cut out the subject it's gotten better and better over time it's really super good now there are like pixel made tools that do it now but in video it's always been this thing because the subject's going to move you have to do every single frame and so rotoscoping is a technique to cut every single frame often excruciating amounts of time to do this but with the advent of these ai tools it's become a plug-in away like motion vfx has i think it's called m roto ai where i click the subject and hit track and it analyzes figures out what the subject is cuts it all out and then moves forward a frame cuts all out again moves sort of frame and just goes goes goes goes goes and does the whole thing for me really really impressive stuff magnetic mask is this all built into final cut pro now and i haven't actually tried it yet but i assume that this will take advantage directly of the improved neural engine on the M4 Max chip, which is making me really want this laptop so I can do that more.
1:03:31So that's the main thing. That's the number one headlining new feature, AI-powered, essentially rotoscoping, but they're branding it magnetic mask. Cool tracking, great. There's also AI captions and translation. So you can basically create a transcription in any language of, I don't know about any language, but it seems like multiple languages based on what I've seen, which is very useful because I don't trust YouTube auto-generated captions. So for every single video, I pay a service that has a human go through and create and type out manual captions for at least in English every single video.
1:04:10It costs me like 50 bucks a video. I do it for every video. If this is good, saves me 50 bucks a video. If you trust it. if you trust it. I will be trying it and seeing if it's as good as YouTube's or as good as the humans. We shall see. There you go. AI taking a human job. And then the last one is AI, or spatial video. You can edit spatial video now on Final Cut Pro 11, which is great. If you're shooting a spatial video on your iPhone and you want to shoot it into your Vision Pro, then this is how you'll do it. Fantastic. 300 bucks, Final Cut Pro 11. Very exciting for me. I think this is the last nail in the coffin for my M1 Max laptop.
1:04:47I think I now have to get the M4. Do you think that this is a big enough upgrade for them to warrant the entire version change? I think the amount of upgrades required to warrant a version change gets smaller every year. Yeah. In the same way that like Android gets a bunch of tiny upgrades and they're like, it's Android 15. Yeah, but Final Cut Pro 10 has been around forever. So long that I feel like you would need sort of like a visual refresh. in order to yeah it's been like 15 years hasn't it final cut is very old i would say that you could argue that this new advent of ai features is a good enough uh inflection point to warrant a new number i think there's going to be more ai features in the future and i think this is the first new ai features and you can go all right 11 for this trivia adam and ellis when did Final Cut Pro X 2011 cut they looked it up too we all looked it up yeah 21st 2011 yeah it's been okay new trivia question when did Final Cut come out I know this don't look it up when do you think it came out it came out it came out after hold on hold on hold on are we okay wait are you talking about when did Final Cut come out or when did Apple when did Final Cut Apple's first published because it was a thing before Apple purchased it.
1:06:11It was a, yes. I would say when it was Apple's Final Cut. Okay. Apple's Final Cut came out in 2000. Nope. In 98. 99. Yes, 1999. Close. It's been 25 years. Yeah. Oh, they did, they developed, okay, they acquired it in 98, but they released it in 99. Yeah. It was first on stage in 99. Yeah. So yeah, Final Cut is old. This is a new version number. I think it's fair that it's 11. It's a whole bunch of new AI features. I'm going to be trying Magnetic Mask. I'm probably going to add this to the laptop review before it goes out because I think it's that interesting. I want to try it. Hopefully, I can get my hands on it.
1:06:51There's also a new Final Cut Pro for iPad improvements, including AI Enhance for light and color. You hit a button, it looks better. Whip-dee-doo. Adding new stuff to the content library, new effects, new transitions, et cetera, and Pencil Pro haptics and new inks for live drawing. Which is cool. Five new inks. I still want to try editing a podcast on an iPad Pro. It would be so difficult. I'm sure it's possible. They have it on iPad Mini as well now. Oh my god. I wouldn't do it on iPad Mini. I hate myself that much. Of what Final Cut Pro looks like on iPad Mini. It's very funny. Really funny.
1:07:26Yeah. There's new Logic Pro improvements as well. Ellis might find interesting that the Quantec Room Simulator is coming as a free update. The most acoustically accurate room simulator reverb generator ever that's going to be built into logic pro allegedly um as well as plug-in search and uh some new sounds and built-in stuff as well and final cut camera is getting an update hevc log recording so you don't have to do prores log you can do hevc log and get more color space more dynamic range but still smaller file sizes great and live lut viewing on it live lut previews 4k 120 from the iphone 16 pro and pro max yes But yeah, I'm excited to try Final Cut Pro 11.
1:08:08And it may be, yeah, the reason that I upgrade this laptop. And I'm very curious to play with Magnetic Mask. Now, you said you think it's for using the new neural engine. Yes. There's no confirmation that it has to be on? No. So the deduction, the reasoning I'm using is that this is Apple's own app. It is specifically, it's AI powered, obviously. and if anyone has the ability to plug directly in to the neural the neural cores and you know m4 series chips it's it's the final cut team and they get to play with those chips and hopefully maximize its efficiency and the neural engine on this m4 max chip is i think either twice or four times as fast or something crazy as the m1 max so that's great cool you should do an export test on both i think i should do a tracking test because exports are already faster i've already done an export test is twice as fast but the adding a mask and like masking an effect or just like i want this subject to have this behind it separate the layers do the tracking for this 30 second clip how long does that track take is it real time for ak for prores for red footage like i want to try a bunch of tracking stuff um if it's four times as fast on this laptop that's that's worth it so yeah cool that's the last headline it is we have one more thing in the It's in the hat, though.
1:09:29It is kind of in the hat. What? I don't want to. Is it someone's birthday? It is a piece of fan art that we got sent. That is really awesome. I think we all shared this, but we haven't shown it on the pod yet. But someone made Waveform podcast fan art with a bunch of different sayings and all of us with our sayings. People of the internet. Yeah. What are the different ones here? I just noticed I'm sitting in exactly the same position that they threw me in right now. It's a me. so it says Ellis is saying the great state of California nailed it Adam saying trivia dude I'm saying no David is saying bad no don't do that did you say that or did that was that was you okay yeah yeah I'm saying I like my dominoes and I like my pizza no perfect no notes yeah and then and Marquez is saying you can do what you want kids you can do anything there's also some other bingo let's go it's a feature not a bug when did we say I can floss my teeth with 16 gigs of RAM they're on then that's good this is wonderful very very cool piece of fan art we do have a lot of wayform isms maybe too many or maybe not enough we're going to need a bigger piece of paper we're going to print it out big and hang it up somewhere and just if you who made this are listening, please do not stop making stuff because you clearly are very good at it.
1:10:56Extremely talented, yeah. I feel like a lot of the first things we all made were like fan art or something. This is the second piece of fan art I've seen that says shut up Ellis on it. That's pretty awesome. Interesting. Well, I think without any further ado, we should do trivia. Shut up Ellis! Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. trivia dude quick update on the score marquez and david tied with 23 apiece andrew running away with it with 27 whoa oh yeah let's go i hope that extra trivia extravaganza completely messes this up oh it will don't you worry good okay so the first question midi has velocity that has a range from zero to what number oh okay this might be a hint it might not be but actually all parameters in MIDI are constrained to this number this doesn't work specifically because it is the maximum bit depth possible in a MIDI word Madagascar Madagascar 3 Madagascar escape to Africa are these now just things that Hans Zimmer has scored yes flip him and read what do we got oh okay what are cooking right now everyone has a different answer david what's yours i put 128 i put 1 000 i put 255 david we got to talk about your answer yeah david we got to talk about your answer because i'm not a musician but you are a computer person okay okay so why did you pick 128 because it's half of 256 oh okay never mind well i guess we don't have to talk about your answer marquez why did you pick 256 he picked 255 and why did you pick 255 zero is still a value because i was going from zero to 256 256 total which would be zero to 255 yes which is a kilobyte which is an eight bit number sorry not a kilobyte so sure Wipe that out.
1:13:05There are. So, David, MIDI is seven bits, meaning that the maximum value described by a seven bit or how many discrete values are there in a seven bit number? Two to the seventh? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Two. Seven bits? Eight. 16. A lot? 128. In seven bits? Oh, 127. There's 128 discrete values possible. But like you said, zero is a value, meaning 127 is the correct answer. Is 126 but zero is a value? No, there's 128 discrete values in a 7-bit number. But zero is one of those values, meaning that 127 is the maximum. But can't zero be a velocity? That's what we're saying. Velocity is, I mean, zero is that there's nothing being played.
1:13:51No, that's what we're saying. It's zero to 127, not one to 128. If you'd combined our logic, we would have got it. Yeah. But zero is a value. And if you put mine in there also. But that wasn't the question. The question was zero to what? what was the highest number in the range? Oh, come on. That's why I put 255. That's why he put 255. Our logic combined would have got it. Anyway, question number two. I need that when you're done, too. When you're right. Funky car time, guys. I'm going to name four cars and you have to tell me which one is fake or if they're all real. The Renault Le Car. L-E - Car.
1:14:31Le Car. The AMC Gremlin. The AMC Gremlin. The Isuzu Mysterious Utility Wizard, also called the Honda Passport. The Subaru Brat. Or, I didn't make any of these up. All right, let's read them, boys. Marquez, why don't you go first? The Gremlin. The AMC Gremlin, made by American Motor Company. is real. Wow. I also put gremlin, which means I think I... Not only is the gremlin cool, I mean real, but it is cool. I put all of the above. That is correct. I didn't make any of those up. I know the brat. Those are all real. I was either between... Now I'm doing the I almost knew this thing, but I don't expect you to say reno like that unless you didn't create it, because that's how you pronounce it.
1:15:29I know the brat is real. Yo, the brat is so sick. And then when you compared, yeah, the brat is sick. And then when you compared, you said there's the Honda Passport version. I was like, Ellis isn't that deep in his own lore. I am sometimes. Yo, the gremlin is sick. The gremlin's sick. Look at the Renault Le Car. So now what everyone's like, oh, Ellis hates cars. Ellis doesn't like cars. He's Mr. Train. No, I just named four of them. Oh, you like cars? Name everyone. Name every car. Lightning McQueen. With that, we will wrap this this week's episode of the podcast. Thanks for watching. Thank you for listening.
1:16:06Thanks for updating the score. Maybe Trivia Extravaganza coming soon. That would be really fun. Yeah, we gotta wrap this up. Very soon, yeah. Alright. Catch you guys next week. Peace. Waveform is produced by... Waveform is produced... Don't press it. Wait, what is it? Is that buzz? Waveform is produced by... Boom! waveform is produced by adam olina and eliz rovin we're partnered with box media podcast network and our tractor music was created by vain so
1:16:49it's kind of hard to explain because like you think of midi literally as like digital sheet music. Like there's no, it doesn't have a sound. You have to give it to an instrument which can then read that sheet music.
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