New OLED iPad and Pixel 8a!

37:41So it's hard to like make those super bright. So they have been developing this technology called Tandem OLED, which is basically two OLED displays just on top of each other. So this way they're able to get twice the brightness and they're able to mirror the exact brightness that they had in the mini LED one. So it's a thousand nits for SDR and HDR content and 1600 nits for peak brightness. But this time it's coming to both models. Cool. uh last generation it was the 11 inch had an lcd display and only the 12.9 inch had the mini mini led display okay so that actually leaves a lot of questions to be had because they are 300 different which they have the exact same specs the only difference is that the 13 inch is thinner by two millimeters and that's the only thing and then the screen is yeah obviously but it's 300 bucks which is crazy yeah it's it's one of those things where it feels like that's a huge leap for just slightly bigger but also i kind of feel like if you're buying the pro you're probably not as worried about your money as possible and if you really want something that is larger i think people will throw 300 at it i don't know if that means it should be 300 more but yeah i think people will buy it i mean yeah they probably will buy it i feel like i would be more likely to buy the 11 inch since it's a thousand dollars versus 1300 i totally agree i also think i would prefer 11 inch better than yeah a huge tablet i don't think i want something as small as like a mini right i know there's plenty of people who would love a mini pro yeah yeah ellis isn't paying attention sorry i was curious no it's some nerd stuff i was were you looking up the tandem oled i was looking it up this morning i was curious if you needed a second set of electrodes in a tandem oled setup you don't at least my prelim research because you see guys an oled screen is a i'm just to know to be fair and this might sound really stupid but it's like when they said tandem oled they're basically saying two oled screens i'm like how much more expensive is this going to be because it's kind of like two screens but it's not like okay that's why it's a dumb question because an oled what separates an oled screen from a mini led screen I mean, other than the OLED light sources being like way, way tinier is that a mini LED screen is like this array of these discrete transducers that are like generating light when they accept current.

40:04And OLED screen is like, you know, it's a film of organic compounds that when exposed to a current generate light similar to a diode. And so what you do is you put an anode and a cathode on either side of that film. and then you're sending light you're sending current through at specific points and typically you make the anode black and the cathode transparent and then the light hits your eyeballs so really all you need to do is take a second film with those carbon diodes and also put it between that anode and cathode and then just kick up the juice a little bit more yeah um so it's not like having two displays it's more like having one and a third display okay yeah and the benefit is you're not putting more current into an individual display you're like putting it into both so you don't you get less burn in this way oh okay it's much less likely to get burn in because you're not like putting more current through it and i'm also assuming they're doing i might be ross you know of any tvs that do this tandem oled no this is the only product okay so and i'm assuming that is you said to increase brightness because we're we don't take our tvs outside where we're taking an ipad outside and you generally need obviously much higher brightness what i read this morning said that this was the first uh display in the world that uses it it might be but i'm seeing scientific papers about stacked ola displays going back like 20 30 years yeah that makes sense what i read is that the technology was just super expensive and that apple basically used mini led as like a filler in between getting to this technology that cheap enough makes sense also i need to correct something i said earlier earlier i said the cathode is transparent and the anode is not on tvs it's the other way around the the cathode is not transparent the anode is transparent i caught that but i'm just gonna let you take the heat on that one i'm sorry yeah okay anyway i just want to say we have not mentioned the most important upgrade to these ipads the facetime camera is on the correct side yeah finally so they moved yeah so they finally moved because the last generation in the cheaper ipads they moved the facetime camera to the horizontal edge uh but in the more expensive ones they didn't which seemed insane now it's on the horizontal edge so when you're doing a facetime call and your ipad is like horizontal you can actually it won't be over here yeah i feel like i didn't the side of your face make that connection where the pro model is much more likely to be put onto some sort of stand and be used for like landscape mode than the cheap model which is probably like just be carried around kids and older people like just holding it up and do it yeah that's very funny yeah it's funny um so okay also there's going to be a nano texture glass option but it's only available on the one terabyte and two terabyte models of the pro uh and it's an extra hundred dollars and marquez got to see it he said it was pretty weird because it it's sort of like that paper-like film that you can put on your ipad so it gives it like kind of that texture and it cuts down on glare but that's also cutting down on sharpness and brightness he said contrast and sharpness i think contrast and sharpness so you're really like i feel like that's specific they're really targeting like professional artists who use ipads for that because um like why else would you buy that yeah i mean if you're in a position where you get a lot of glare and it's but to be fair in the video when he showed it and the lights were showing like the glare does look significantly reduced but like yeah i guess if you're in a position also an ipad feels like something that would be the easiest to pull away from glare because of how mobile it is but yeah uh i don't know who exactly that's targeted at yeah i personally think that it would be better to just buy one of those paper-like displays because then you can take it off if you don't like that's a very good point yeah or like maybe if you're looking to upgrade your ipad maybe buy one for your current ipad and see what it affects before making the purchase decision of that right but considering it's only available on the one and two terabyte models i'm guessing that they're like hardcore like artists that store a ton of stuff locally on their ipad yeah i'm not sure when for an artist is there a reason why you think it would be them just because you're losing like sharpness and or you're saying like artists because like because it has like it has a little bit of a texture to it and the reason that people buy the paper like thing is because it makes it feel more like writing on paper yeah i'm not sure yeah i'm not sure but we do not have any xdr displays with the mine has it does it mine has it do you feel like it looks different my studio display does it really yeah do you guys feel a difference when you look between the monitors no um yes okay yeah i do well ellis is looking at audio so yeah yeah also something that there's a bunch of little small things that I like dug up this morning now that it's been long enough after the event.

45:04We're getting a new M4 chip in these iPads, which I think we should talk about a little bit. The fact that it's very weird to launch their brand new chip that's like focused around AI and like tops of performance in a thing that needs no more power than it already has. Totally agree. Like, why? They've always been kind of strange in how they what products they release these new chips in i felt like because wasn't the was it like m2 or m3 one of the first things it was in was like a 13 inch macbook pro and like um the touch bar macbook pro when it was like already and then the macbook air had like a new design and yeah i don't remember exactly what that is but it's always it's never been the like the pro the cool pro version that feels like it needs the most compute yeah i think it's because they'd have to launch uh the the pro like m2 pro and m2 max with it yeah and they don't always do that usually they just do an architecture jump and just put it in some cheaper products and then they later release the pro stuff do you think there's any part of that to be like well now the non-pro version has this bigger chip so it might be more powerful than my pro version so i can buy the more powerful version and then now you have a half-life a half a year update each year because like marquez when he had the before he decided that like m1 was going to be totally fine for him he had like the m1 macbook pro and then like the m2 macbook air came out i think and there was this like well that's technically better yeah are you gonna get it like there's that thought process of like this is the more powerful machine even though it's not the pro version right yeah i mean the thing people into it i i don't know i mean it's been like there was no new ipads released last year and that's the longest that they've gone without updating the ipad ever and so maybe they just figured like okay we gotta update the ipad and my hot take is that qualcomm is announcing well they're releasing their first x elite laptops in like there's there's a microsoft event later this month that everyone assumes is going to release the x elite stuff um and asus was like teasing like an ai pc thing so I think all this stuff's going to come out at Qualcomm's tech summit back in October, they made a bunch of like performance metric comparisons.

47:26And it seems like it like outperforms M3. So by like a certain amount of percentage. So I'm assuming that they are just like getting the M4 out the door so that they can say we still have the fastest ARM chips on the market. it something that would back that claim up is there are quite a few things they announced that were coming as features or software for this that aren't coming out till later this summer right everyone's favorite let's announce it enjoy it later but by now yeah so like that would kind of back up your claim on that but it also feels weird just like when is apple really giving a damn about what other people are doing and again like they're if they're doing that to be like we better than you and then ipad actual owners are like we don't need this yeah we don't need this it is a weird device to release it in um they were making a bunch of these like instant background removal demos and all this stuff that it can do because it has it's very focused on ai performance they have all these um machine learning cores that was a you're talking about the in final cup pro where it was like essentially rotoscoping out the person dancing rotoscoping i would love to see that in real time because that seems extremely powerful if it works that well.

48:40Obviously the examples are always going to look perfect. DaVinci Resolve actually has a lot of those features. So, yeah. That stuff you used to have to hire people to do and now an iPad can potentially do it in one click. Which is crazy. Other stuff about the M4. It also has a new display engine that enables 10 to 120 hertz promotion support. So these iPad Pros will go down to 10 hertz. Previously they only went down to 24 hertz okay so that's a little slower i would love for them to eventually go down to one like a lot of the smartphones that we see so that you know you could use it as an e-reader or something and not worry about draining your battery but whatever um there are four performance cores and six efficiency cores but as we found out only the one terabyte and the two terabyte have all four performance cores and if you get any of the other models they only have three performance cores they're binned fun which they didn't say no you can only see that if you go on the Apple website and look at the specific specs which is kind of crazy yeah I've I'm sure there's reasonings and there have been in the past but it's always weird when the storage option seems to change like performance things yeah but yeah well and then the other thing is that they also didn't say is the uh 256 and 512 options are 8 gigs of ram and the 1 terabyte and 2 terabyte are 16 gigs of ram which is like a huge difference yeah and they didn't mention that either yeah I I mean, ultimately it has to come down to just like skew numbers and hey, it's just easier if we assume somebody with wanting more storage is going to want a little more power and those people are willing to spend money.

50:16So let's just rather than have all this customization of like 16 gigs of RAM, but 256 of storage, like we don't need to make those. Yeah. It just is unfortunate if you want, if you don't need a terabyte of storage. Well, I also find some irony in that because part of the reason that the M series laptops are so good is that you can get less RAM because of the insanely fast swap memory. But if you get the lower storage options, then you get less RAM. So you have less swap memory available. But if you have the higher storage options, you have more swap memory available. So it's all yeah, it's all confusing.

50:54And I mean, it just seems like they're gunning like buy the expensive one. Yeah, come on, I guess. but then you're paying like two thousand dollars yeah it's like twenty five hundred dollars is the most expensive i think was like twenty six hundred or something like that which is crazy wild just twenty six hundred dollar ipad bro please um okay they quietly got rid of a camera and it almost felt like it said nothing it almost but it felt like they were trying to by adding that lidar sensor by almost looking like a camera it i feel like that camera bump is the most like disorganized unesthetically pleasing camera bump apple has ever done yeah just nothing matches everything is like a different circle or color it felt off it felt like the models that we get that just have like fake glass and fake cameras on the back yeah it's strange they're all matte so instead of like on the iphone where you have like the clear glass bump it's like just matte metal bump yeah it just feels very strange um but yeah they got rid of a camera which is super weird I was thinking that they would, you know, realign them like they did with the iPhones for spatial video.

52:04Yeah. Grandma could take spatial video at the baseball game. You need a Vision Pro for that. Yeah. But no, we just have one 12 megapixel camera for 4K video. They added some, they added a true tone flash for document scanning. So now it like takes a bunch of different flashes to kind of adaptively create a image of a document that isn't shadowed in any way. That doesn't feel like it's because like scanners are the worst. We all just want to take pictures, but pictures look like pictures. There's an app called Google Photoscan that's been out for like a decade. And it had this feature where you would like it would have these four dots and you'd move your phone and it would take four images so that the shadows were all different.

52:52and then it would stitch them together and create a PDF from that. How's that not just a default camera option in every phone available? I think Samsung phones have always had photo scanners. I'm going to have to look at that because I did not know about that. Yeah. Samsung has a bazillion features. You know what phone has a built-in photo scanner? What? The Boogs Palma. The Boogs Palma, baby. It's not a phone. It's not a phone. Yeah. Yeah, probably all made by the SanogenMod people while they were working at Samsung. Can we just look at this camera bump? is that five different diameter circles yes every single circle is a different size yeah and that just looks so unapple it is really weird it's and nobody knows what if this is the lidar uh nobody knows what that other circle is because there's a flash there's a microphone there's a lidar there's a camera and then nobody knows what that last one is and nobody's i haven't said anything online about what it is um okay i just went on the most ridiculous deep dive of my whole entire life and yes while literally every news outlet is reporting that this is the first device with a tandem oled screen that just does not seem like anywhere near the truth um lg claims that they started mass producing tandem oled screens in 2019 but is it called tandem oled yeah they use the term tandem OLED um but do they put them in anything it seems to me that they uh were putting them in cars so it seems like apple is gonna get away with saying they're the first to do this because it seems like lg doesn't want anyone that's using them to like announce they're using the tech but uh it does not seem anywhere near like the first device maybe like if you don't count automotive displays as displays you can alright that's about it for the iPads there's also a new thinner and lighter magic keyboard that they said makes it feel just like a Macbook because it's made of aluminum it's got the dude this is just a Macbook what's a computer what's a computer I know yeah it's made of aluminum it's got the function row it has haptic feedback for the trackpad it seems like they literally ripped the bottom off of a macbook and like turned it into a magic keyboard which it's yeah it's uh i'll go against the grain i i don't like this to me sounds like the i guess because it's not mac os but like i hate two-in-ones because i think they're just stupid i think i'd rather have like an if i was more focused on the tablet part of a two-in-one and having this accessory despite it being$350 for the 13 inch yeah yeah like this accessory that does make it a little worse laptop but close to a laptop and functionality of a laptop and i still get my really nice ipad pro i take this over a two-in-one yeah i want to try it but it can apparently now push 40 watts through those pins that the ipad floats on okay just pretty crazy that's nice um but yeah$300 for the 11 inch and 350 for the 13 inch which by the way that makes this keyboard if you buy the 13 inch keyboard the same price as the baseline ipod nice which is crazy um yeah so it's and everyone gets mad at andrew for spending three i was gonna say maybe i've just spent three hundred dollars on too many keyboards before this doesn't seem that wild that's fair uh but yeah It starts at$999 and$1299, which again, very big price jump.

56:26Instead of making it macOS, they're just like taking all of their apps and putting it on iPad, like Final Cut and Logic and everything. You mean Final Cut for iPad 2. That confused our entire office for a while. Yeah, this is very confusing. They announced two new apps. Well, three new apps, actually. They announced Final Cut for iPad 2, which is weird because Final Cut for iPad didn't come out that long ago and it was missing a bazillion features and is a monthly subscription and sucks in a lot of ways it was also confusing how they said it because what they said was with two new apps final cut pro and logic pro 2 yeah to me that is final cut pro yeah and logic pro 2 then we started thinking it was called final cut pro 2 and then we got in this we got very worried that maybe they were going to do a final cut pro 2 for the mac and then charge people again right but then somebody was like wait why is this called ipad 2 and it's like no it's called final cut for ipad 2 yeah which why are they doing that final cut for ipad 2 if you hover over it on that will that pop up and say final cut for ipad 2 probably i don't know maybe maybe we just think this is dumb this might feel like one of those things that just seems so simple but that confused the first one did not come out that long ago and it was missing a million features that they said said they were going to add and didn't add and it seems like the only benefit of final cut for ipad is to like start putting clips together on a train so that when you get home you can like then bring it into your macbook but that that's a five dollar a month subscription which is insane i've spent worse for five dollars a month i just see it as so useless i get like well another thing they announced which was something we got excited for then we're promptly not excited about was the Final Cut Live Cut Camera which when they first said it it said you can live cut up to four cameras so all of us were like can we live cut the podcast now using an iPad that sounds so cool but you have to install an app called Final Cut Camera Live I think or no just Final Cut Camera and it's only on iPhones and iPads so you can switch between up to four cameras that are on iPhones or iPads.

58:44So this podcast will now be shot on all iPhones. No, iPads. We should all use iPads. It's one of each of our grandparents holding an iPad. Yeah. All my grandparents are dead. Mine too. Same. Nice. So how many grandparents do you have? All four. No, I got three. Three? That's all we need. Three cameras. Bring them in. Yeah, bring them in. All right. Okay. Taking over the podcast. Me and my ancestors. See, this was so weird. They showed they were like shooting this climbing video and they had three different or four different people with iPhones in cages like. Yeah. Taking video. And then they had one person on the iPad and they were basically live editing a video by switching between the iPhone cameras.

59:31When this showed on the screen, everyone in the studio just turned and looked at me. I was like, can we do this on the podcast? Yeah. This is just the dumbest thing ever. It seems so over-engineered, and I don't know who's going to use it. This is like Apple's perfect world where they're like, nobody will ever have a dedicated camera ever anymore, and everyone will use their iPhone for everything. Dude, for live streaming, though. But nobody uses four iPhones to do live streaming. But you couldn't before. Now you can. Who cares? But can you live stream from the Final Cut app into a service? Probably.

1:00:05Probably. I mean, even if it wasn't built into the app, you could just get a capture card and a dongle. I'll play devil's advocate a little bit with Ellis if he's playing it with me. But I think there's definitely scenarios. First of all, if we want to always tell people, go make content with what you have and what you have is an iPhone. It's hard to knock this. Now you need four iPhones and an iPad Pro. Yeah. Fair. That's a lot more expensive. It is more. It probably is more expensive than a nice camera and a microphone. I get it, though, because when this was first announced, I was like, okay, this is kind of cool for video podcasts.

1:00:41Because you could be like, hey, three friends, come over with your iPhones, just set it up, and we'll use the iPhones. But again, this isn't a cheaper alternative to something. You can already do that with free software and whatever iPhone you currently have. It'll be easier. And the way they were showing it off was doing live cutting from the iPad. And it's like, are you going to have a producer for your podcast where you live cut? I think there's a scenario. I'm not available. If I had to find the scenario where I think this works best, it's just that video is just like so important for any type of business in marketing right now.

1:01:17So if you're a smaller business that can't afford a production team or production equipment or like even really a social media manager, maybe there's some way that you want to actually do some sort of online marketing. and chances are there's four iPhones in your work. And if you can convince those people to connect them up with Final Cut Camera, you could probably do some content. Like, I had to dig for that. I don't love this thing that much. I don't see me ever using it, but I do think there is some scenarios. Social media is just way too powerful these days and it's some of the best marketing out there.

1:01:50Look, look, I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate 2 here. Like Final Cut 2? devil's advocate for ipad 2 but assuming and i know this is a big assumption gargantuan assumption just huge assumption okay but assuming this final cut camera for iphone can stream wirelessly to the ipad in 4k and you can have multiple 4k streams how much do you think a standalone dedicated hardware 4k switcher would cost we've looked into this before oh i know 229 i thought it was like 10 plus thousand okay neither of you are even close that was hilarious uh it's about 1800 for a 4k switcher um and then probably another thousand for an actual controller to use david was way closer than i was relatively so for like the 2200 you're all in on a on a 4k switcher you could get almost a top-of-the-line iPad, which could do everything else, too.

1:02:52assuming it's 4k yeah my ultimate question is would there be some way of us taking a professional camera with a video output as like an external monitor into an iphone and then the iphone would be able to cast that into the ipad and then you could live switch i have a feeling the answer is no but if it's yes dude that changes everything for dude honestly it's that would be so more iphone sales now we have to buy an iphone for each one of our cameras dude no no no we could literally dude we could throw out our taradeck and we could just use iphones yeah yeah dude yeah Wireless dude you know the amount of headaches wireless video causes the studio like if we could do what you just described That's the other question is what is the range of this wireless video to be fair They were rock climbing and they were up on the wall and there he was live switching.

1:03:42Yeah, I know they never lie on those Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there wasn't the scene where the rock climber like goes to the the gym employee and is like what's the Wi-Fi? So I can so I can I can do my camera switch I love Rock's 2024's right that's what it is in every gym right it's like it's the law it's almost all yeah pretty much like I love where I am the year exclamation point so yeah anyway this final cut 2 for iPad 2 they didn't really announce a lot of new features for it which is the other thing that was weird they barely talked about it they said that there was like the instant photoscoping that's kind of all they talked about to be fair that if that works like that is a fantastic yeah and they should have just put it in for ipad not wrong um they also announced logic for ipad 2 or just logic pro 2 maybe maybe just pro for ipad 2 i don't know i think it was just two elif do you know i don't think so okay do you want to talk about what they added to logic pro 2 they added uh they added a a bass guy and a keyboard guy to compliment the drum guy people like the drum guy oh the drum guy was there already can you explain what that is uh man like you did to me yesterday yeah so essentially like uh if you don't want to program drums in a track you're working on you can open up this thing i think they call it the studio drummer i i don't use it it for work here but um you have this sort of like grid that has a bunch of parameters like an xy grid and then you tell it you know you place this little dot on and it'll just like play drums along with your music and because it's apple um all of the different drummers have like names i can't remember what them but if you want like the the rock drummer you have to like like choose scott you know and if you if you want like the dance drummer you choose like the rock like the duane johnson yeah like what are yeah oh the like the pop rock is kyle retro rock is logan why hard rock is unders um yeah so it's like this thing and it actually works well like it's tasteful drums it's it sounds real enough to like work use for a demo so they've opened this up to bass and keys when is it a set beat or something or is it listening to what you've created and creates based on that you're in logic pro already so logic knows the tempo of your song because when you're making music in a computer you're almost always locked to the grid so you've already sent tempo it knows that it's gonna look at your midi and potentially your audio too and sort of be like okay like this is a section he's got a bunch of instruments coming here there should probably be a fill right here i believe you could also tell it to like switch like go to the hi-hats here and then you're you're giving it a bunch of info like i want you to play big fills i want you to play simple quiet stuff um it's a cool feature uh it's you know it i wasn't like this is the i've been waiting for the bass guy yeah but um what is the situation on this on if you are producing that music and selling it or using it uh i don't think they do material no i don't think they take any there's no copyright like what are the chances it creates something extremely similar as someone else and then can you copyright that music that's not really how music copyrights work you can't disagree you can't as far as i'm aware you you can't really copyright uh a specific like instrumental figure in a song you can copyright melodies for sure um and that's sort of where drums are nice because they're inherently okay a melodic um i whether you know like i don't know it feels like the how many monkeys in a basement does it take to type Shakespeare sort of thing like with the bass like maybe eventually someone will get a famous bass line but just like um Adam just googled did Fort Minor have to pay Apple was there a Fort Minor song?

1:07:48So basically Fort Minor remember the name that song is an Apple loop from GarageBand. Really? That's just a loop so I'm trying to figure out if they had to pay. No no no loops have specific license agreements that you accept when you open the software that make it like they're not they're royalty free you can use loops the the big thing with loops and i know we're getting way off topic i'm gonna get to the other logic pro thing is that um you're not allowed to redistribute them as loops so you can't buy a loop pack and then sell those loops as like your original loops you have to use them in a song okay the other feature there's two two more two There's two more.

1:08:25I only remember one. The stem splitter. Yeah. And there's the chromoglow toning. Oh, my God. That was like, okay, let's do the stem splitter first. Stem splitter, this is not new. Apps have been doing this for like five or more years. You give it a song and it gives you four audio files with all the different tracks. I have no idea. I'm sure it works because other people have been making this work for years. Apple is probably the best audio company on the planet. So not surprised. It's true. We all know it's true. Sorry. who else is there someone was very upset they said the airpods too dude i got so many like comments like wow you should fire him like he doesn't know anything about audio wow they sound really good and if you don't believe me that they sound really good just like start researching to the degree to which they're tuned more than any other speaker you can buy like like if they don't sound good it's millions hundreds of millions of dollars wasted chill chill okay stem splitter so yeah it probably works i don't know man like cool i was i was like that's pretty cool the chromaglow yeah that really confused me because they did the classic apple thing where they were like oh this is gonna change everything um get ready but like i really didn't understand like what made it like is it not just a harmonic saturator that's what it is anything the marketing says uh chromoglo models the sounds produced by a blend of the world's most revered studio hardware by leveraging ai and the power of m-series apple silicon users can dial in the perfect tone with five different saturation styles to add ultra realistic warmth presence and punch to any track.

1:10:12They can also choose from modern clean sounds, nostalgic vintage warmth, or more extreme styles that can be shaped and molded to taste. Can we start a timer two minute explanation of this? Ready? Wait, hold on. I gotta actually set the timer. Yeah, if you don't want to hear this, just skip ahead two minutes. Yes, skip ahead two minutes. Okay, so people think old audio gear tends to sound better than new audio gear. And the reason that is, is because old audio gear has this thing that's called non-linearity. As you approach the loudest you can get, The loudness doesn't happen across all frequencies at the same rate.

1:10:45Typically, the lower frequencies tend to come out more, and this is due to this process called harmonic saturation. Think about one single frequency, a single sine wave, and then you add these little speckles of sine waves and these mathematical orientations up the frequency band, and your ears just hear it as like one warm, nice sound. If you add a lot of saturation, it stops sounding like saturation, and it starts sounding like distortion. Clipping, like real audio clipping, is typically... Ah! There you go. Clipping is typically the most extreme form of saturation where there's so many harmonics that the waves are actually getting cut off.

1:11:21Okay, so typically the way these things work is they're effectively giant audio LUTs. You take an old piece of gear, you run every frequency at every volume through it, and you make this giant lookup table of input to output, and then you can recreate that digitally. i would hope since they're shoving the word ai down our throats every five seconds in this stupid that they're using an ai to somehow more smoothly and cleanly get around and through those lookup tables i don't know maybe they're using ai to blend those lookup tables maybe they're not using ai at all and they're just doing what other audio companies have been doing for like 10 years now yeah who knows my take is that it's just wait my two minutes are up yeah yeah was i excited that apple is introducing a harmonic saturator not really like i have tons of killer harmonic saturators that don't claim to use ai already in my my my workflow and also uh i'm not really making music here that often so i don't use them very much so uh i got a big nope on this one but if anyone can explain to me why it should be a dope i'll take it time's up nice all right sorry my take is that it's just machine learning that they've been doing forever and they are starting to reformat the whenever they say they used to just say ml they are now just starting to say ai because their services businesses are doing badly and their stock was not doing as well as they hoped and they figure they can juice the stock if they just start saying ai even if it's just regular machine learning in my humblest opinion if you are not using transformers um just call it machine learning but that's just me okay cool one more thing oh i do i do okay well so i just looked it up um it is final it is logic pro for ipad 2 right but not logic pro 2 No.

1:13:22No. But they are updating Logic Pro to be called Logic Pro 11 on Mac. Is it 10 now? Yeah. Well, isn't Final Cut Pro 10? Yeah. Yeah. So it's being updated to Logic Pro 11, which will be a free update for people who already have Logic Pro, or you can still buy it for the$300 or$200 one-time fee. Or their free trial lasts forever. not literally forever but like a long time okay but you can also pay the five dollars a month uh on the ipad just like final cut which um terrible i'm so over subscription fees anyway uh yeah so those were the three new apps that they introduced last thing and i promise we'll get to trivia pretty soon but they also introduced an apple pencil pro which you know it was bound to happened just another one on the most confusing lineup possible yes like you've looked the apple pencil lineup is absurd it makes no sense yeah so previously they had like a tap gesture that you could do to switch things now you can squeeze the pencil which brings up a tool palette they also put haptics in the butt of the pencil to vibrate when you're doing things so that you're supposed to have haptic interactions i'm interested in how natural that feels considering the haptic motor is in the back of the pencil, but that should be interesting.

1:14:48Also, they introduced a gyroscope, so you can change the orientation of your brush, which I think is very cool. Yeah, I think it changes orientation, and also when you're doing, it looked like, I think in hover, you can rotate it to select different things in this cool little menu. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff on this Apple Pencil Pro. I make fun of the lineup, but this pencil's really cool, and there's a lot of cool stuff. Adding like a Z-axis or a turning axis of orientation for interaction, I think is very cool. Yeah. I can't wait to get it so I can continue drawing smiley faces and stick figures.

1:15:19To me, this is like watching this. It reminds me of a GoPro, like a GoPro marketing. When I watch it, I'm like, that is the coolest thing ever. I could be that cool. And then I buy it and I'm going four miles an hour down a ski slope. And the pencil is like, I want that, but I can't draw at all. So what would I ever use? Yeah, I think for artists that draw an iPad, it's cool because there are certain brushes that are like kind of just flat lines and they have this stroke. and so now that you have the orientation you can like change the orientation when you start the stroke. And the hover thing to select layers was pretty cool too.

1:15:52And then they worked with what is the Procreate? They worked with Procreate to talk about like all the ways that they're using it because they're going to have an API for the gyroscope in the pencil which is interesting. And Procreate has this new animation app called Procreate Create Dreams where you can pull in a bunch of Procreate assets and like create insanely simple animations and they were showing how you could be playing back the video and moving things in the video and turning the pencil which would rotate the objects and when you say simple you mean simple to do like yes they're ultra complex animations that you can do but you can do them in an extremely simple right it's like simple key framing which is cool um yeah so i think i i actually think the apple pencil pro is one of the coolest updates to this entire thing to everything that's coming out um but that's going to be 129 it does work with the m2 ipad air as well as the m4 ipad pro however only those two models because they moved where the magnet array is for charging and apparently had to change the magnet array i don't know if i completely buy that i mean it's more of an excuse than just the like what every tech company does is like new product new feature you ain't getting it on the old ones so at least there is somewhat of a hardware difference on why it needs to and The magnet array changed because of where they moved the camera, right?

1:17:10The camera, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah. 129. That was basically the Apple event. You can pretty much pre-order everything right now if you want to. You can pre-order it, get it soon, and then get the rest of the features sometime in the summer. And then remember that the iPad doesn't do anything. So, yeah, you can spend a bunch of money and then watch Netflix. Every time an iPad comes out, I want to buy one, and I realize I will only use it to watch movies. Yeah, it's just like, why? Speaking of iPad things, we forgot the most important thing, which is the sneakers that Tim Cook was wearing were freaking dope.

1:17:47Yeah. Me and Alex were trying to see. Well, they were designed on an iPad. Well, yeah, they were designed by an iPad, which came out after. But Alex and I were trying to figure it out after the event, like, what sneakers are those? And we just, like, really couldn't find them. They're apparently Nike Air Max 186s that were designed on iPad. I just want to say sneakers app one but they only made one no no no no they tell you they made one oh I'm telling Apple they need to make more how do you design something from 86 wait for it wait hold on hold on oh nice that's kind of a real question it's just like that's the like generation style I think it's the model I guess yeah cool Tim so yeah that's the Apple event we'll do a quick trivia and ad break and then when we come back we will talk about the new Pixel 8a because there's so much hardware this week but first let's do trivia trivia dude so second question how many times did Apple say AI during the iPad event alright that's it think over break okay

1:18:56nice alright we'll be right back

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1:20:35All right, welcome back. The iPads clearly were not the only piece of hardware we had to talk about this week. We also got to talk about the Pixel 8a, which has been long-rumored, is finally here. You can pre-order it now. Awkward device. That's the beginning of my dissertation. What do you mean? it's so cool they change so much yeah uh it's basically a pixel 8 with a slightly smaller display rounder rounder it's definitely a more round spongebob vibe that was the best reference yeah in the marquez's video yeah so it's got a 6.1 inch display uh it is now 120 hertz which is nice a dynamic right sorry yeah because the 5 the 7a was 90 so it's nice to get 120 but again it's dynamic and there's only two options there's 60 hertz static or dynamic up to 120 so you know that's what you get 40 percent brighter display which i think is a big deal it's nice that all the device manufacturers in the last couple years have been jacking up the brightness of things for So this gets up to 1 ,400 nits or 2 ,000 nits peak, which is very nice.

1:21:44You get basically all of the AI features that you get in all the Google phones, which is really cool. This is the first A-series device with Gemini Nano on it, which is cool. They slightly bumped the battery to about 4 ,500 million powers, which is an extremely slight bump. Yeah. Just about 4 ,400 million powers last year. 45 looks better. Yeah. Yeah. It has wireless charging up to 7.5 watts, which is pretty slow. There are two new colors. There is aloe, which is based on aloe vera. For those that don't know, it is a plant that you can scrape the plant, and you get like a gel that you can put on sunburns, and it's good for your sunburns.

1:22:26You can also eat it. Or drink it. I'm not telling you that. Don't do that right now, just in case you're not supposed to. I'm pretty sure you can, but I'm not going to tell you that. There is an aloe vera drink. There's another drink that I used to drink all the time from my co-op in the middle of the forest. And it was delicious. You should go try it if you have an opportunity. I feel like, well, the other color is blue. And to jump in here, I feel like, oh, bae, yeah. The two colors should have been aloe and the aloe gel. Because sometimes there's that gel you can buy for suns after you get sunburned.

1:22:59And it's like this weirdo blue color. Blue container. Yeah. So, like, it could have been both. They both could have been aloe. Yeah. which is cool yeah um so the awkward thing about the pixel aa is that is 500 the pixel 8 literally up until the day of the pixel aa announcement was 550 on sale and it had been for a very long time it has gone down as low as 500 on sale so the only benefit you're getting to getting the device is that you still get the seven years of software updates so technically this device is six months newer so you might get another software update would you argue that like you're probably better off longevity wise of having the upgraded hardware and that lasting better yeah i yeah the hardware is not that much better that's the no no i'm saying like getting the old the eight yeah i now is that okay yeah the hardware of the eight is like you got a slightly brighter display um you've got glass this one's plastic that you know that's a difference technically you got bigger camera sensors you got faster charging and wireless charge actually yeah there's a lot but better stuff in the eight so if the eight goes back down in price to 550 which it probably will within a month when everybody forgets about the eight the eight a just get the eight like just And the Pixel 9 is coming out in October, which is only five months away now.

1:24:27Well, wait, question for you guys. So when the 8 inevitably goes down again, do you think the 8a will go on sale? No. You don't think it'll go down to like$4.350? Right now, if you pre-order the 8a, you get$100 in Google credit, Google store credit. Which is worthless. Yeah, which is worthless. Well, if you use that to buy a Pixel 8. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a weird release. I've always thought the A is a weird release time. I think they should all just be in the same lineup. It makes more sense. It's also weird that we go, I guess it makes sense 8, 8, A, 9, but it almost always feels like by the time we're talking about the A version, we're also looking forward to the 9, which is a totally different, like in the year you get an 8 and a 9.

1:25:11I don't know. I just think it's confusing. It's confusing. I agree. But technically that's available now, but just by the 8. Ships May 14th. Just by the 8. Just by the 8. I think that was the title of our video too was just at the 8 so anyway that's a thing I have one more thing a question or an idea I had over the weekend that I want to pose to everyone before we wrap up the podcast cool we'll be back next week thanks to you this is turning into a thing at the end of every episode it's just like Andrew's Thought Corner that's too much pressure for me but we'll go two weeks in a row let's make some music for it I like that.

1:25:49If you make music for it, maybe I'll keep posing. Using an iPad with Kyle, the drummer.

1:25:56Okay, so I had a road trip up to Boston, and I love Android Auto, and I was using my maps on the way back home, and we were trying to find a coffee spot, and I hate how it will show you restaurants or stuff that you want inside of Google Maps. It's kind of cool how it's like, this is along your route. this is how much of a detour it's going to add but feel super limited i've done ones where i've been like i just all i want is breakfast that is in a drive-thru that i don't have to get out of my car to get but i'll type in restaurants and it'll just show me every restaurant including ones that are like closed maybe not i don't know but so i think google maps or apple maps or ways would be the best place for like some sort of voice activated ai chatbot large language model where like in my car i can be like find me a restaurant within the next 40 minutes of driving that doesn't add more than 20 minutes to my route that has a drive like there's so many things are there that like you can be like hey find me a restaurant and i'll bring you to one in like a mall and you're like i'm on a road trip right now i don't want to go into a mall to pick up my food so if i could be way more specific about what i want like along the highway or a rest stop or like i want this type of food or if it has coffee that's not a chain like i think all of those things are things that you could wrap into a suggestion base especially along a route and understanding all the context yeah to me that feels like it would be the best spot that i would want this in right now what if i told you google io is in like three weeks and i bet that'll be there it's in one week is it in one week yeah next week is the google what is time it'll be there and it'll release with the chain link fence detection.

1:27:38No, I like that though. That's a good idea. That was just a, I feel like think about things you want to stop at quickly on your way somewhere and how specific you're thinking. Cause you're not just thinking, I want coffee. You're probably like, I want a decent coffee, but I'm not willing to wait over an hour for that decent coffee. So then I'll settle for something and I don't want it to add 20 minutes onto your, how long have you added an hour onto your ride? Because like you went a little farther for Taco Bell. more times than I can count. Good God. It's not always great at really actually picking on your route.

1:28:10I don't know. Can I do the New York version of that? Sure. I want it to know me. Maybe even plug it into my budgeting apps. And if I'm looking for coffee, I want it to set a hard price limit. That's fair. It's so easy to be in New York and go get a great cup of coffee that's like nine dollars that sucks i think with breakfast also where restaurants will only serve breakfast to a certain time if i say i want breakfast drive-thru and it's 10 o 'clock don't suggest me something that's 45 minutes away because breakfast will be closed by then yeah i think the problem with this though is that it requires google maps to be accurate yeah that's what i was gonna say is it needs it needs like this metadata of locations about the things that they offer and like when they offer it.

1:29:02Which changes all the time. Are those things not available online though? They probably are. So you'd have to have Google like scrape the menu page. I want them to do that. Scraping the menu page is exactly what I want. What if I'm like, I want a bacon, egg and cheese and an iced latte at a drive-thru within the next 30 minutes. And then it could show me where that is. But all the best places don't have like a menu website. It's like you have to click on their store, look at the pictures. The user pictures. Someone three years ago took a picture of the menu. I think a lot of them have menu websites.

1:29:32They should at this point. A lot of them have it. I don't know. Well, if they don't have it, then they're not getting suggested and losing business. I will say Google Maps really needs to change the default view to open now because I always have to hit the open now button and it knocks out three quarters of the available restaurants. What is open now? Oh, like that it's open? Yeah, because if you want to go somewhere at 8 p.m., I'll be like, food near me. and it shows all this food and then I click on a thing and it's closed. I'm like, cool. I have it saying this closes at nine and your ETA is very close to that.

1:30:09Are you sure you still want to go here? Yeah, it does that. Okay, but when you're in the selection. If it's already closed, it still offers it to you and then when you click on it, it's like, oh, but it's closed. And then you have to go back and find something else. Yeah. So there's an open now toggle that you can hit. AI, have you heard of AI? Oh my God. Have you? I don't know if we've talked about it this episode. It feels like AI could change that. Do you know who invented the transformer by any chance? Yeah, it was Google. Well. They should do it. That was my thought. Cool. Thought experiment.

1:30:38Let's get to the trivia questions and see how we do. My lights, my beautiful lights don't work. I have to fix them. I don't understand why. Trivia. I'll get around to it. All right. All right, guys. So earlier in the episode, we introduced the viewers to a very cool futuristic concept called an electropermanent magnet. We have a device. We've got multiple of a single device in this very studio that features an electropermanent magnet. What is it?

1:31:17I have like one obvious answer, but I don't think it's that. It's not the floating shoe. That's what I was thinking. There you go. I wish I didn't say that so I could have just put the floating shoe and then I don't even know what to Google album archive yeah because remember whenever the power goes off the floating shoe always falls conversational actions because you know how in your house you know that the power went out in the middle of the night or microwave is blinking when you wake up but like for us it's like we walk in and the shoe is on the ground and that's how you know that the power went out alright what'd you put I put standing desks I put MagSafe charger, which I know is wrong, but it's a magnet.

1:31:57It is a magnet. The correct answer is the scroll wheel in the Logitech MX Master 3. When you toggle it from its stepped to free-flowing modes. You're right. We do have a lot of those. That is an electropermanent magnet. Wow. That scroll wheel is fantastic. It is really good. Wow, Ellis, great trivia question. That is a great trivia question. Do you think Marques would have gotten that right? No. No. We'll find out. because he's going to get this question. Final answer? Final answer, MagSafe puck. It is incorrect. The correct answer is the MX Master 3. Oh, for the scroll wheel. Yeah. Wow, that's crazy.

1:32:37Speaking of magnets, really quickly, I had a viewer email me because we talked about how it would be nice if the MagSafe chargers could be reversible. there's a product available on Amazon Germany that is not available on Amazon US that is a MagSafe charger that charges your phone but it has a little additional thing on the back that is another MagSafe charger that can charge your watch or AirPods. Oh. So you plug in a cable to the little puck it slaps on the back of your phone and charges your phone and you can also put your AirPods on top of it. Wait, wait, wait. So your phone needs to be face down.

1:33:16Yeah, I guess I didn't think so. Oh, the backside of it. yeah that's fine i mean or you just hold it i guess wait you can mag you can mag safe to the screen no it's the back of the phone but you just now i'm confused it's the back of the phone so it's like in this sandwich your airpods and the puck are the bread and your phone is the meat or is no the meat is the puck oh and your phone and the airpods are the bread okay yeah cool nice yeah that was nice nice it was like a pretty it was like an 18 dollar thing that's good when you posted that it was on like a that german amazon and when i clicked it it said like do you want to change your country of origin i was like david got hacked and he's spamming our slack yeah next question okay also side note quick update on the score marquez david and andrew all tied with eight still considering that you guys had that yeah because we all got a point last week yeah oh all right so how many times did apple say ai during the ipad event wait wait Should we do closest delta or should we do prices right?

1:34:16I'm feeling prices right. Yeah, let's do prices right. Prices right is always my least favorite. That's why we did it, baby. Thanks. Google Chrome apps. G Suite Legacy Free Edition. Have you repeated this yet? No, none of these have been repeated. As far as I know. Cormo Jobs. What is that? Cameos on Google. Streams. they had streams apparently and then they just got rid of it your news update again shout out to killed by google for keeping this amazing archive flip them and read what do you got i bet andrew's right i wrote four wrong i wrote five wrong was it six was it seven wrong was it what what was it i remember it being a ton of times because every time they said it i was like wow they actually said it but then i saw a sweet tweet that it was like like eight times or something like not that many is that your final answer i'm gonna go with eight eight eight quinn had like a tweet about how many times they said ai and this because people were complaining about it and then how many times they said 5g which was like 50 plus times when they also had a deal with horizon that time so i'm sure they had so much too well next week we're gonna have google io recap so it's going to be a very busy May.

1:35:36Oh boy. Not it's going to be May. It is May. And then next month it's going to be June. We got WWDC. So we got a lot of more exciting episodes for you guys so keep tuned and make sure you subscribe and hit that bell. Subscribe or else Marquez might not feel better and come back next week. That's true. And you're stuck with us again. Smash that like button since we're YouTubers. You didn't even look at the camera when you said that. Because I felt disgusted by saying it. All right. Waveform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Rovin. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our intro outro music was created by Bain Sil.

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