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0:30All right, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. And this has been Techuary. I'm just saying it. That's true. I have to. It's been so much more stuff than we expected. Stop trying to make fetch happen. All right, I'll stop. No, no, but someone did suggest the name JanuWear, like software or hardware. Okay. Better. Oh, sorry. I thought you were going to say wear because there's so many wearables, but there's not that many wearables. Yeah, the AI pin is not coming out yet. Yeah. Is that still a thing?

1:05Do people still... And Vision Pro is February 2nd, so it's not January. Yeah. So there's maybe... I don't know why I started that. That was a great intro. Anyway, we're hosts. I'm Marquez. Weirdo. I'm Andrew. Dang, I knew I said that already. I don't know why I tried to do that twice. Today, we're doing headlines in a hat. We've done this before. You guys know how it goes. Basically, Andrew's got a hat here. It's full of a bunch of headlines. And they're all... Get it headlines? Because it's a hat that you wear. Actually, I didn't even know. We still need to make this an actual hat. We need the Headlines in a Hat merch.

1:38That is a hat. Oh. Yeah. Okay. So a Headlines in a Hat hat is what you're saying? We should make one? Okay. I like that idea. But the point is, lots of smaller things today, and we probably have different varying lengths of things to talk about, so we'll just put them in a hat and go through and see what they are. I'm excited. Who wants to pick first? I'll pick first. I'll pick first. Stare off. Why not? I don't know. I'm just the guy who shakes the hat. This is one? This is gigantic. Okay. my headline and hat oh this is my favorite one oh no sorry to the viewers and listeners i truly apologize for what we're about to talk about okay so uh adam adam puts it in the slack a couple hours ago i'm about to pass out the verge posted amy is a beautiful simple calendar app a m i e now if you know me you know that i have a bit of a weakness for i think toxic treat is the correct term you could call it that you know i like i prefer to call it like it's something i'm working on um but i saw this and i'd never actually gotten to use it or i don't think i've even heard of amy so i i clicked it and you can blame adam for this i immediately dived down the rabbit hole now the verge article just looks like a normal article and i'm like looking at it reading about some of the features looks pretty cool and then i click the link to go to the website and for some reason it's an incredibly beautiful website and i was immediately drawn in i do have a huge weakness for websites that as soon as you click on them or or applications that when you install them it's just like have you seen this look at this look at this website i'm just gonna for our video viewers you can actually see what's going on but there's like floating glass windows that all converge into a moving calendar.

3:24And it's to-dos, email, and calendar all-in-one. Now, I will just preface this. I don't want to waste you guys' time. I just want to say, like, I've tried a lot of these things. And the core apps in my life are my to-do list, my calendar, and my email. And one of the biggest promises that a lot of these all-in-ones make is combining two or three of them. So a lot of times it's the calendar, or a lot of times it's the calendar and to-do list. So you'll be able to put tasks on your calendar. that type of thing but in order to commit to one you have to decommit from the two other apps that you were using so whatever calendar app you were using you don't use that anymore and whatever tasks app you're using all the systems you had set up there you don't use that anymore you have to hope all those features are in this hybrid app yeah i haven't tried amy yet but that's the number one thing i'm concerned about going in is i don't know if the to-do list features are going to be as robust as what I currently use with TickTick.

4:21And I don't know if all the calendar features are going to be as robust as what I currently use with Notion Calendar. And there's an email client built in, which I can almost guarantee isn't as robust as what I do with Superhuman. So all of these things have to have some sort of extra advantage to convince me to merge them all into one place. There's also no Android app. And there's also... Cry. What? Cry. Sorry. Yeah, there's no Android app, unfortunately. And it also, it's a subscription. so oh i have to really like it and i'm gonna try it i feel like the day that you stop using tic tic is the day hell freezes over the day the cyber truck comes out and pro becomes reality that could be i should probably stop using tic tic like now no i stop using tic tic once every two months when i try something else like i tried one called routine pretty recently i tried one and that was that was tasks and calendar but no email um and i tried another one i'm forgetting the name of and I try things like every six months like there's a lot of it's called called things yeah things to do list app sorry yeah I use both Google Keep and Google Notes and there's no organization Google Notes what is Google Notes oh sorry Apple Notes oh okay and Google Keep I got scared yeah no organizational alarm app anyone I use my clock I use Keep I use Keep for taking notes during reviews so when I'm driving a car or using a phone yeah as soon as I set it up I set up a new Google Keep note for that thing to keep rolling notes of observations as we go so that when I'm ready to write the review, I just dump it into the doc.

5:54So then the new, because it wasn't in the Galaxy event, there was the like, use your keep notes and it would organize them and bullet point them and everything. That was Samsung Notes. Yeah. No. So I like that feature, but I'm not trying to switch to Samsung Notes because what if the next phone I review isn't Samsung? Was it Samsung Notes or was it Galaxy AI? and then would that work inside of those samples? I think it was Samsung Notes. I'm going to assume it. Because Galaxy AI is not like an over-structuring thing. It's just a bunch of AI features and a bunch of different apps. Yeah. Samsung Notes is the specific OCR and handwriting recognition and all that.

6:30Yeah. Yeah. Damn. So, yeah. I mean, you have a first... You haven't downloaded it yet. Oh, I have. You have. Oh, you did. Yeah. What do you think? Yeah. So I got it. I signed in. I checked all the boxes. I gave it access to my entire life. You can give it your Apple health data. Yeah, you can give it Spotify for some reason. And I plan to. What? No, I immediately, I didn't even read it. I just said, yeah, I have it all. Okay, I have a question. I have a question. Okay. I don't understand. What? Why people don't just use Google Calendar and move on with their life. I mean. What is it about calendar apps that are better than any other calendar app?

7:07Because every screenshot I see of like every calendar app just looks like every other calendar app. I did make the joke that the screenshot in here just looks like what I see Marquez using every day in his calendar app. That's a totally reasonable observation. Calendars fundamentally all I'm about to get. Okay. I'm ready. Let's go. Adam's also a freak. So any freaks out there? Adam and I are sickos. No, the calendars, you can only organize them visually in so many different ways, right? It's time. You have a week. So you have to have seven slots for your days. Like we kind of figured out how to visually organize your calendar.

7:46But then there's the actual UI for inputting and managing and moving around in that visual space. So a lot of people just put like meetings and like a couple things they need to remember, birthdays, whatever, on calendars. And that's all they put. I know people who don't really even put times or locations. They just have to remember that something happens one day. They just make it an all-day event for that day. And they just know. I am not that type of person. I need to actually put the blocks out for time so that I know because I have a lot of things going on, right? So a lot of these calendar apps aren't changing visually anything at all.

8:21What they're changing is how you get about moving things, adding things, subtracting things, marking them as done, marking them as onto the next one, reallocating space, sharing available space for a meeting, like all of that stuff that comes with this calendar thing, that's what they all try to mess with. So this one having email and to-dos built in, they're trying to convince me to drag to-do list items directly onto the calendar to commit to doing it at a certain time. Oh, so like when you go through your to-do list, it wants to add that to the calendar and do that? Yeah. And when you get an email, you want to commit to doing the tasks from that email at a certain time, so you drag it onto the calendar.

9:02You can drag the email onto the calendar? Yeah. Oh, man. So that's a new concept for a lot of these hybrid apps. Because there have been a lot of these that have been launching recently. Oh, yeah. Email apps or calendar apps or task apps just keep launching. Oh, yeah. And Google keeps trying to mess with things, too, to try and add some of these features in it. But the other thing, too, is that Google is such a, like the Google Calendar app, they're not going to mess with that fundamentally. So many people use it. Until they shut it down. Until they shut it down, eventually. Inevitably in three years.

9:33but all of these random little apps when do you think google is ever going to have an integration that shows when you listen to spotify why would i care you won't it's just fun it's just cool what if i want to know how many steps i usually take on mondays you look at your watch or you could just look at your calendar calendar and it'll tell you a nice little color gradient stuff like that it's one of those things where i'm like i get it's just a calendar app and i kind of have that same sentiment but then realize like it's the same people who say like why do you need wireless charging how long does it take to just plug your phone and it's like yeah but if you're saving all that time and all those different times it does add up and like it is convenient so maybe i just need to try it i'm willing so very funnily funnily humorously they they just announced notion calendar which just came out this last oh yeah that was and that was it's what did it used to be called it's just cron it was cron yeah so you guys just switched to that right it is the same app just with a rebrand i think they got bought by notion yeah we've been using cron for a while as our calendar so they just read they repack does that feel better or worse than this new one that you're looking at um it's like asking a car enthusiast like does this car feel better or worse there are things that i like about and i'm very used to in cron slash notion calendar but I'm willing to forgo some of those to try some new features that this one might have.

11:01Okay. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. All right. Well, yeah, that's about all I got. Shout out to my fellow calendar enthusiasts. Next. Next headline. All right. Oh, that could have been it. I'm trying to, for so audio listeners can hear us shaking.

11:17That's me shaking. All right. Okay. I can't believe I got this headline. All right. So, New Jersey. Yes. This is a quick one. This is local New Jersey news. For all our Jersey listeners out there. For everyone that knows, I would argue it's universal. I would argue everyone should agree to this. Everyone should like this. Okay, what's the headline? Okay, so I don't live in New Jersey, to be clear. However, I do go to a gym in New Jersey here, because we have one in the office. New Jersey just made it a law that all gyms in the state are required to have an online cancellation option. now yes yes yes now this is actually extremely important um because in the united states at least i don't know in what if this is like a law in other countries but at least in the united states there are a lot of very cheap gyms that are like 10 to 15 a month they have a lot of random hidden fees like once a year you have to pay 60 for some reason and blah blah blah anyway you can sign up online in like two seconds and they don't like but they don't let you uh stop your membership online you not only have to be in the gym but you also have in many cases you have to like write a letter as to why you need to cancel and like send it by parcel mail to the headquarters at which case they could just say like we didn't even get it small story when i lived in san francisco the day i was moving out of san francisco leaving got rid of my apartment i went to my gym to cancel and they were like oh like the manager has to be here and he's not in today and I was like but I'm moving and they're like yeah I was like what?

12:58absurd and so I ended up going back and forth with them for like four hours until they like made an exception but it's like a horrible experience so the fact that the New Jersey state government issued this in one state is great I really wish Biden would go after this if he's gonna go after Ticketmaster but you know just saying. Just throwing it out there another big Jersey W you served up fresh. Just another checkbox for the greatest state in the Union. Wait, but didn't the same guy say that Central Jersey doesn't exist? No, no. He put into law that Central Jersey does exist. Oh. Into law? Maybe not law, but they changed some new maps that they were making.

13:33He tweeted about it. He tweeted about it. Sick. If you tweet about it, it's official, baby. Yeah, that's all you need. This needs to be the case all over the United States. Everyone should be able to cancel their gym membership online. Yeah. 100%. The same, actually, I was going to say the same amount of ease of use as unsubscribing from an email newsletter, but it should be even easier. That is a pain sometimes too. If you just don't click five of them, it should just unsubscribe you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. David, can you shake that hat for me? Oh, thank you. Wow. Does it affect at all which one you pick?

14:02I don't know. Maybe. Pixel 8 Mint and Feature Drops. Ooh. That's not the headline. Wait, I should bring it. They're minting a Pixel 8 NFT? Yeah. that's called an airdrop not a feature job oh my god that just reminded me of the solana phone i'm not gonna do that though i'll be right back solana phone two you didn't hear about this no oh my god no please no dude i'm getting tagged on the regular for pre-orders for the solana saga phone two no way but does it come with bunk i bet i bet it has lots of oh wow crypto related benefits to those who are in those ecosystems, I'm sure. I don't know anything about the physical phone, by the way.

14:44Nobody has tagged a single piece of information about the phone. The camera, is it better? Who knows? The battery, is it bigger? Nobody's mentioned that to me, but they are quick to mention that it has 40 ,000 pre-orders, and prices are crazy. You can pre-order now and it ships in 2025. It's not clear that it's a phone. Yeah, it says Solana Chapter 2. Okay, but if you go down to the FAQ, question number four is is chapter two a phone and they don't explicitly say yes can you guys stop sending this to me please sounds like you're gonna get sent a lot more it says how much will this product cost become a top referrer oh my god this is why the product will for will oh it's definitely gonna be an ai thing rabbit r2 it's definitely already selling to solana it says this product will further what we set out to do with solana saga which was to make crypto products and services more accessible to the public by putting web 3 securely in your hands yeah it it doesn't say it's a phone i bet this is definitely an a a handheld ai it is a non-refundable deposit i'm gonna get the non-refundable 450 i'm gonna get the mint pixel i'd much rather talk about is that already announced this is at the bottom of their website is my deposit refundable no the mint pixel it is announced yes really yes okay the day before this goes live got it be right back okay all right i'm back i bring with me a phone here it is so hot look at that color this is the minty this is the mint colored pixel 8 8 pro actually uh we've seen this before like mid-cycle refresh new colors of phones um this is the most one plus thing google has ever done because it's always yeah the one plus would always three months after the launch of the phone drop a new color just to recreate hype for it and at least it's three months at least it's not a t like a pixel 8t it's a it's an 8 pro with a new color so nice it is the satin same same pixel we know and love and there is a new feature drop associated with it so there's a couple new things that pixel is getting um but this is a new color i think it looks uh kind of like a light seafoam green type of thing yeah very toothpaste that feature drop was basically everything that was announced at samsung unpack yeah you want to hear the list yeah well actually there's one new thing yeah there is so yes circle to search yep is coming to the pixel 8 and 8 pro which is kind of the same thing i mean you can picture it already you hold the gesture bar or the home button at the bottom and then you can circle or tap whatever's on your screen i love this feature i'm very happy it's coming to the pixel the other thing is take your temperature with the pixel 8 pro fta proof we've all been waiting for you remember this feature there's a thermometer wrap on the pixel 8 pro yeah just the 8 pro and it's been able to measure all kinds of things metals fabrics for no reason whatever else you measure liquids i guess um and they're adding humans to the list so i'm guessing it got fda approved whatever they're finally able to say that it can measure your skin temperature around your forehead i don't even know what temperature I should be getting when I measure my forehead?

17:57That's true. Well, no, if you're doing it... Your internal temperature is supposed to be 90... Your core temperature, yeah. But when you do a laser forehead temperature, it still comes out as that, correct? No, no. Like when you're getting at the doctor's office? I never get... It's never super accurate, and also everyone's temperature is slightly different than regular temperature. Yeah, but it still should be around 98 degrees, right? I've never gotten an external measurement that high. My question is like, we, we kind of have determined that a lot of even smartwatches are like very bad at actually reading your temperature.

18:30Yeah. So wasn't it the only, the thing that they're mostly good for, for like telling you if you're sick or like the, uh, the like cycle maintenance stuff is like the delta between your temperatures and if there's a extreme off. So the problem is like, you're not going to be taking your temperature with the pixel like every day. Right. So like, how are you going to know? you won't really you'll just have to remember what you usually get and there's probably not like google keep integration to keep a tab on how many times you've measured yourself yeah it's probably not going to be that useful i think we should test to see the update to see how much it's gotten and if it's accurate and we could test it against a real temperature it's kind of like when we did the pedometer short we could do pixel versus real thermometer or something yeah laser thermometer core thermometer i'll try it xl thermometer i gotta get i gotta buy like a regular mercury thermometer yeah the uh it does say i think i have one of my you have a mercury thermometer yeah perfect i didn't want to take a tempi still says a forehead infrared thermometer should still be between 97 and 99 okay all right all right i guess i just have a cool for they are less accurate yes or because you just have no blood flow the outside of your body you're very like the surface of your body is more likely to change depending on your environment than the inside of your body.

19:49Yeah. So everyone knows someone with cold feet. You'd never get 98.6 measuring cold feet. Always got cold feet. Yeah. Well, that's the headline. Minty Pixel. I like it. Minty Pixel. Wait, what else is in the feature job? Thermometer. Oh, yeah, there's two other ones, I think. There's two others. You want to hear the other two? Yeah. Yeah, Photo Moji. Photo Moji allows you to transform your favorite photos into reactions with the help of on-device Google AI. That's epic. Bad naming, though. Photo emoji makes it sound like it's going to do an emoji or stuff like that, but I do like it. Is this something you can use in messages, Google messages?

20:24I imagine that's the primary use. Like reactions or emoji? I think it's going to be an emoji that moves in the message. It moves? Yeah. This is stickers. Stickers, which every phone seems to make a big deal about dropping as a feature, and I never use them, so I'm not even one. Samsung just did that too. Yeah, Samsung just did it. And Apple's already done it. message yeah i i my okay so uh my good friend omar shout out omar if you're listening to this is a uh he he's a visual artist he mostly works with uh he does a lot of things but he has a lot with pencil and paper and he was showing me that for his work he uses the sticker function um to uh take like scan his sketches because he can get them on a transparent background effectively and then because it saves to a cloud bank in the messages when he he does it on his phone like when he's on the subway sketching and then he opens his ipad and can take all of his new stickers straight to procreate to collage them and i was like cool and the cutouts are really good because it's just pencil on paper i can get the edges perfectly yeah and it tends to be a pretty good cutout that is like the perfect exact use case i would expect to see in an apple commercial and i'd be like i know I had no idea that was a thing people did, but that's perfect for that.

21:39I know. And it syncs across devices. Just like using Final Cut on the iPad on the train. Yeah. People totally do. For sure. Yeah. Anyway, the last thing is Magic Compose. Powered by Google's generative AI technology, Magic Compose crafts stylized, suggested responses with the context of your messages. So it'll write texts back to your friends. So this is the same as the Gmail auto-reply? I mean, text messages already have auto-reply in them. This one will have the context of the whole conversation, maybe how you talk already. So instead of I'm on my way, it's see you in a minute, big dog, something.

22:17I don't know. I mean, I would just like it to just say like yes or okay instead of the like sure thumbs up that like everyone I accidentally click on when like I'm trying to respond. Laughing out loud. Yeah. We'll try it all. Well, let's try it all. I'm excited. Let's take a break. We got a bunch more stuff in the hat. I'm looking at it over there. It's still teeming with exciting headlines. So we'll get back to headlines in a hat. But before we take a break, trivia. Trivia in a hat. In a hat. Trivia in a hat. This is like a cat in a hat, like a remix. First question. USB OTG. Yeah. The OTG stands for what?

22:59That's right. I've never even heard of USB OTG before. When I plug my phone in. What? you've definitely heard of USB LTG I know that but I don't know that you know what I mean yeah like I know that standard but I don't actually know the answer I can picture exactly where it shows up on my phone I'm just trying to remember what it stands for Adam would like it to stand for over the garden wall I wish oh man if every USB device had an over the garden wall like option can I propose something yes this is not multiple choice right or ring not multiple choice near the rat hole OTG is three letters it is can we get one point no per letter available and you have to get all three of them right no several one or two if I get one of the letters right I'd be happy to get a point no okay alright well I tried I tried we'll be right back alright

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25:52And I'm sure you've all seen where VR, can we all agree that the thing that breaks immersion the most in VR games is walking? Okay, I can see where you're going with this. I know exactly what I want to say. Go ahead. Say now or you want me to keep going? I feel like I know where you're going. Okay, so like the old walking things that I've seen and maybe there's some other ones, but it's kind of like you either need to teleport or you need to use your controller. Exactly. Then there was the one where you're kind of like - It's called like OmniFloor or something. Yeah, it's basically a dome floor and you have slippery things on your shoes.

26:28You wear slippery shoes and you're in a thing and you're like running. And you're walking. It pulls you back into the middle. This is like a bunch of tiles that somehow I couldn't - Yeah. They change direction by how you're walking and then you are walking without going anywhere. You still walk in place, yeah. Yeah, and it can kind of move you around. It's for a bunch of other things as well. Yeah. But it looks like potentially one of the coolest ways to walk in VR. It's kind of a cool video. They have like, there's this guy that works for Disney Research that's been working there for a very long time.

26:56And he's just an inventor. What's his name? Lanny Smoot. That's a great name. Yeah. He plays saxophone. He also invented that realistic lightsaber that Disney recently has been touting. The Verge just did an article on that today, I think. Yeah, it's like a telescoping lightsaber that looks very realistic and comes out slowly and stuff. But this hollow floor looks very interesting. yeah yeah so i have two different size comp not complaints just question marks about it okay okay one is you remember you're talking about the thing where you're like kind of there's something around your waist and you can walk or run yeah it feels like in a game if all you can do is walk there's got to be some point in the game where you want to run or go a little faster and i just wonder what happens on the surface i don't really know they did some cool uh some really cool interesting things where he's like on a chair sliding around yeah it's like all kinds of other things i think that's really cool and the tech is very impressive but the other thing about vr and moving around which makes some of these um movement mechanics so difficult is you also want to sync the environment movement with your actual inner ear feeling of movement so the reason why teleport works so well is because you just pointed a spot on the ground and you snap there and at no point do you feel the environment moving while you're not actually moving?

28:18Right. Because the second you do that and you see movement but you don't feel movement, you're, it just, that's how like the nauseating feeling happens. And with this, it's like super cool that you're actually walking and you'll see movement walking in the environment but your inner ear will still not feel walking because you're not moving. So the, but you are kind of, is that? If you're running on a treadmill that you don't get like ill. Well, that's because you can see that you're not moving. Oh. So you can see that you're not moving on a treadmill and your legs are fine, but you can feel that you're not moving and you can see it so it matches.

28:48In the VR headset, you're walking and you can feel that you're not moving in your inner ear, but you see that you are moving, so you still will feel. But how is this different from like the dome thing where you're like running? Because in VR, you're still moving forward. That will also be extremely nauseating. Have you used that? No, but I guarantee you'll feel the same difference. Really? I've used it before in that dome thing and it was not pleasant. I think that's just because the dome thing wasn't good. That's also true because it was at like CES or something. That's the fundamental reason why it feels like motion sickness.

29:19Like in the games in VR where you're sitting in a chair but you're moving through an environment, that also tweaks your balance because you see that you're moving but you feel that you're not. That's why it gives you motion sickness. So this doesn't change that, but it's still cool that you are like moving your legs, which I think is awesome. We're going to have to put it to the test and go to Disney. this might be a good reason why a lot of AR games are more fun to move around than VR games can we just change our whole studio floor to this so I don't have to walk it can just slide me across no matter how hard you run you don't go anywhere or the opposite it can also just send you places like he's using it as different examples too of like I could see them using this in a show or something like one guy's pretending to move an apple box around the floor and it's moving the apple box around the floor I'm still don't know what these tiles are exactly Yeah, they don't really explain it at all.

30:10It's kind of wild. It kind of like slopes in different directions. And in this, two people can be moving in opposite directions, which is wild. I have seen this omnidirectional treadmill before that it detects the direction that you're walking and it moves you the opposite direction and it can go every way. And that sort of works the same way. so this tile based thing seems kind of weird maybe it's just because it's more modular it looks like if you look really closely it's like individual spinning discs yeah I was going to say it's like running on a log they like rotate also yeah so they all spin in certain directions that you feel the motion or it pushes you in a certain direction I'm interested also like how hard you like how fast you can walk or if there's a certain like I'm now walking too fast they're all walking really slowly it's a very specific walk but it's something that's cool though i wanted to i hope they keep working on it because i do feel like that would be cool for it to like work really well on a large floor that'd be kind of sick yeah i think the reason a lot of people were saying this is like the next step towards the holodeck which for people that don't know in star trek there's like a room you can go in that that's basically like it's it uses ar but like projections and also like everything basically just turns into the simulation of what you want it to be and there's whole plot lines of like don't get too lost in the holodeck you have to remember that it's fake and it's not real life because people can get lost in there forever and they'll have the perfect world and they don't want to go back to reality it's a very early conception of like don't get lost in vr your your brain will rot away um and that real life is a little more sad than the perfect vr world but you have to deal with it but what if we're already in the vr world possible that's a simulation theory but but a lot of people are saying this is like the next step in it because theoretically if you had like a lightweight like ar vr headset and you could go into a room that had all these tiles around it and you could walk around like you could be on a mountain field you could be whatever you could be walking around and you just have no idea so it's just like simulating anything for your brain which is got it always fun yeah simulation i think this would be cool i'm excited for when vr despite your your thing you're talking about can walk i'm convinced it's going to be more like what you said Andrew I think the this is gonna get used mostly in like shows and like he wasn't talking about it just AR VR I threw it in here because I do think that's cool and we're talking about AR and VR a lot and I guess mostly VR less AR yeah but it stinks when there's a really cool VR game and then the walking just completely takes you yeah you know I think this is gonna be great for all right no offense I love your dog Adam but picture this it's like out your dog 15 degrees outside you don't want to take your dog for a walk that sucks slap these goggles on your dumb dog throw them on this thing they could have the best walk of their life or just remember have you seen the vans these there's these like vans that come around to people's house and they have like a dog treadmill in it oh yeah and they put them on like a collar i love those and they just sprint it's crazy how fast they're going so much money to not have to do the thing that they signed up to do.

33:28Okay. Next headline that I just picked out of the hat. I didn't shake it. I'm sorry. Pixel 9 renders are already leaking. That was fast. I want to note that it is January. I also want to note that we're not surprised. Only nine months away. You could have an entire child in the time that it's going to be before this product is supposed to come out. So if you want to have a baby at the same time the pixel 9 is launching do it right now um so there are renders of the pixel 9 pro how do we feel about allegedly allegedly alleged renders by on links and my smart price as usual as is tradition i don't know what year it is because the same thing happens every year um but they are very weird looking it's a it's a like the trend now is to make the front and the sides of everything look exactly like an iPhone.

34:24Flat. Flat front, flat sides, metal rails. But the camera bump, once again, looks even weirder than last year. It is different because it's not sloped into the rails, according to this. That's my least favorite thing. Is it? The camera bump. Yeah. I weirdly kind of dig it. It's a static island. Part of what makes the Pixel's visor feel intentional yeah and even they did it i think even better in previous pixels but it's literally because it feels like it's part of the the well in the in the pixel 6 it was two different components right which is what made it look like it's something they just went it looks like it bolted on together yeah but when they when they got it all as one piece it looks so like it looks like a good design it looks like this is the way it was supposed to be a piece of aluminium yeah and like it's one big frame and i like that and i feel like this is backwards this new render if you're on the video version you can see this new render it looks like again it's back to something bolted onto the back of a flat phone yeah which is i think that's why i don't like for audio listeners if you've ever seen a xiaomi mi band uh the mi band is like this little module that gets put in this little rubber band that you put around your your wrist it looks like the display of a xiaomi mi band that's just bolted to the back of a phone.

35:45Maybe we should describe it with something not something It looks like Among Us. It looks like Among Us. That's it. The last one was like a RoboCop Among Us collab. This one, they've just committed to the bit. It does have a giant camera. They're definitely still going for the visor vibe of it stretching across the whole back of the screen, but just imagine it's in an oval instead of rolling over onto the side rails now. Big pill. but like very cut and dry it's not rolling into the back it is a very hard 90 degree angle from the camera bump the amount of dust that's going to collect around this ring is crazy they were like we don't have enough dust on the top and the bottom let's put it on the sides it's crazy otherwise it's an iPhone hole punch cut out why is 2024 the year where everyone is making the iPhone I like this because flat rails rule i'm happy they do i agree like i like the feeling of flat rails it's just it's kind of weird that they're all so similar i guess i think it's less weird that like they are similar to the apple thing and just weird that samsung and google seems to be doing this in the same year yeah like people like phones are making the switch all at the same time yeah which feels it's not just them it's other manufacturers too are there as well yeah yeah yeah but i think that the pixel 8 Pro was the best looking Pixel since the Pixel 6 since they have big redesign like by far.

37:15It looks the most like put together and like single pieced. I'm going a little bit back against the rails. The best Pixel? Pixel 2? I said since Pixel 6. Since the new 6.7, 8 by far looks the best. I have a thing for the the six visor even though it was clearly not as well integrated as the current one yeah i think it's because of glass instead of metal oh because the whole thing is classed it doesn't have the like cutouts inside of i think that's why i liked it actually this though kind of almost feels that vibe because all the cameras are in one singular piece of glass where the seven pro is two openings right it's like an oval and a circle so this is like one large oval and then you just have the flash an IR sensor on the...

38:06What is that? The thermometer. So is this still the thermometer in this? Possibly. Google Pixel 9 Pro thermometer confirmed. Well, I don't know if that's a thermometer. We won't know. It could be anything. It could be laser autofocus. This is also nine months away and very much have your baby. Oh, don't worry. It'll be on sale in like two weeks. You'll find it in a Best Buy somewhere. That's true. Flat rails, flat screen. Anyway, this is super early we will confirm over the next nine months whether or not this is correct and get back to you on that. I'm way more excited for Tensor to get better than for the design of the phone.