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Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Episode Notes
Episode Title
Our Favorite Ordinary Objects!
Overview In this bonus episode, Marques Brownlee (MKBHD), Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel explore non-technical items that bring joy to their lives. Each member of the studio presents their favorite ordinary object, aiming to convince the others that theirs is the best. The episode is described as light-hearted and fun, offering a refreshing break from their usual tech discussions.
Key Themes
- Tech Detox: A break from discussing technology and a focus on everyday objects.
- Show and Tell: Each guest presents an item, fostering personal stories and connections.
- Friendship and Fun: The informal and humorous tone enhances camaraderie among the hosts and guests.
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Presentations of Non-Tech Items
- Marques Brownlee - Digital Piano
- Description: A Korg SV2 SP73 digital piano.
- Key Points:
- No screen, designed for casual enjoyment.
- A blend of technology in spirit, but minimal in tech integration.
- Highlights the difficulty of finding non-tech items in a tech-dominated world.
- Andrew Manganelli - Cast Iron Pan
- Description: A cast iron pan.
- Key Points:
- Emphasizes durability and cooking versatility.
- Discusses the importance of maintaining a seasoned layer for optimal use.
- Strongly contrasts with tech items, showcasing traditional cooking.
- Ellis Rovin - Bowflex SelectTech Adjustable Dumbbell
- Description: Adjustable dumbbell set.
- Key Points:
- Balances convenience of adjustable weights with minimal tech involvement.
- Useful for home workouts, emphasizing fitness without advanced technology.
- Highlights the blend of modern fitness with traditional weights.
- Brandon - Dotted Notebook
- Description: A dotted notebook used for storyboarding and creative sketches.
- Key Points:
- Represents a blend of creativity and structure in note-taking.
- Favored for its practical use in enhancing creativity without tech reliance.
- Stands out for its simplistic yet effective design.
- Jono - Disc Retriever
- Description: A Max Distance disc retriever for retrieving lost discs in disc golf.
- Key Points:
- Practical design featuring suction cups for effective retrieval.
- Useful for avid disc golfers, showcasing how functional design enhances outdoor games.
- An accessory that improves the experience without technological interference.
- Miles - Pre-workout Supplement
- Description: BPN Flight Pre-Workout supplement.
- Key Points:
- Focuses on fitness and improved workout performance.
- Has a high caffeine content, highlighting a different kind of product utility.
- Discusses the balance of using supplements responsibly in fitness routines.
- Eric - Kewpie Mayo
- Description: Japanese mayo known for its unique flavor and texture.
- Key Points:
- A flavorful condiment that enhances dishes, highlighting culinary experience.
- Focus on quality ingredients and production methods.
- Uses humor to discuss food preferences and taste.
- Rich - In-N-Out T-Shirt
- Description: A t-shirt featuring the In-N-Out menu.
- Key Points:
- Represents a cultural icon and personal connection to food in California.
- Highlights how food can evoke nostalgia and community.
- Showcases the spirit of In-N-Out, emphasizing its significance beyond just food.
- Harper - Love Sack
- Description: A large, comfortable bean bag chair.
- Key Points:
- Emphasizes comfort and versatility in home furniture.
- Creates a communal space for relaxation and gaming.
- Discusses the ease of transport and setup, enhancing home life.
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Voting and Discussions
- The group engages in a debate to determine the favorite item presented, considering practicality, uniqueness, and non-tech attributes.
- Final Consensus: Jono's Disc Retriever emerges as the collective favorite for its utility and non-tech nature.
- Honorable Mentions: Brandon's dotted notebook and Harper's Love Sack are noted for their practicality and comfort.
Conclusion The episode concludes with a humorous reflection on the items presented, emphasizing the importance of grounding conversations in everyday experiences, fostering connections, and celebrating simplicity in a tech-saturated world.
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Additional Resources
- Social Media: Follow Waveform on Twitter and Threads.
- Shop Merchandise: Available at the MKBHD shop.
- Join the Community: Engage with fans on Discord.
Acknowledgments Thanks to Ellis for production efforts and to all guests for their contributions to the episode.
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Transcript
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1:07Yo, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to a bonus episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. And hopefully no tech this week. This, you know, usually right here is where we talk about all the tech stories we're going to talk about. Today is the opposite. Our goal today is to talk about no tech. Notice there's no laptops in front of any of us nothing video viewers have already picked up on the lack of tech i mean we still have microphones but we do what's the theme for this episode so we were thinking of a bonus episode to do for this month and i kind of came up with this idea which we elaborated on a bit more which was we asked every single person including us inside of the studio to bring in something that they enjoy that has the least amount of tech possible so this is kind of the opposite of what we do in every single piece of content we've pretty much ever made we like we like new technological things let's look at some things that people like that do not involve tech this is our tech detox episode tech detox show and tell show and tell but along that we have to make a kind of game showy so um we're giving each person five minutes to pitch their object we are allowed to ask questions during that our goal at the end of this episode is to all vote the four of us here on which we think is the coolest but also the least technologically advanced um and one last thing ellis whipped up for us is we all have a button in front of us we're calling this the that is tech button also no one in the studio knows about this button yet i don't think okay so when they come in if their way of explaining their item involves tech in any ways we press this and tell them that is tech tech okay bad it's actually quite hard to come up with objects that are not really considered technology not only is it hard we gave you guys extremely minimal amount of time to think of this one day i think monday we decided to make it and yesterday is when we told everyone to bring something in so yeah minimal time yeah well uh we can just jump right into it yeah let's start with us gonna start um do you want to start marquez i think you start that's a lot of pressure but i'll go first i don't actually have my item with me because it was far too large and heavy for me to bring and that i could okay so i little backstory went to music school have a degree in music unfortunately and um love playing music obviously it's not my career at the moment because i'm here with you lovely people but uh i okay well you know sometimes it's funny my devil My music industry friends do not consider this working in music.
3:48And then my non-music industry friends just cannot tell the difference between any of the different entertainment fields. So it depends on who you ask. Anyway, I wanted to play music at home. I live in a small Brooklyn apartment. A piano was not really... Oh, he's ready. A piano was not really feasible. So I got... I'm going to use the D word. I did get a digital piano. Oh, that's yes. But hear me out, hear me out, hear me out, okay? Okay. I specifically wanted something that was not going to go in my music studio. I wanted something that was going to go in my living room, would never get plugged into a professional piece of gear, would never be used on a track, would never be used.
4:30It's like, this is purely for fun. And so I sought out the only digital piano I could find that had both speakers built in and no screen. No, I said no screen. Every single digital piano on the market has this little LCD screen, which in my opinion makes it completely ineligible as a living room piece. because then you have this little tiny, like, it sucks. And so here, I pulled up a picture. I've seen this piano, and it is a beautiful piece of machine. Yeah, like, in essence, it is tech, but in spirit. Can I ask a question? Absolutely. Do you have to turn it on? Say it. So many things are tech.
5:21It's hard. Not only do you have to turn it on, but you have to wait for the tubes to warm up. Yeah, that's... I feel like that qualifies as not tech. That's tech. it yes yes i have to turn it on yes it's tech but i chose that one specifically because it is the least tech the least tech without spending like eight grand on a nord this is like so if like you're smoking there's going cold turkey which is what we're talking about this is like the vape of technology this is like you slowly getting away from the tech aspect i know but that is a really pretty piano. Was it called? That is the Korg SV2 SP73 with speakers made by a really cool company called K-Array from Italy.
6:09It's a Sony-level name. Part of me was hoping one of the companies would have the word tech in it, and I was ready for that. No, no, no. Thankfully, I didn't get got that hard. But yeah, it's a really cool piece. If you are thinking of buying this, here's what I will say. It's perfect. I love it. There is one flaw that no one in any of the reviews mentioned like i watched so many reviews before buying this no one mentioned this so you heard it here first uh all the sounds in it are in stereo which rules because it has left and right speakers and it sounds very alive oh okay i see i see now how wrong this is i'm saying anyway would you put the effects wow this is just tech i'm just gonna I'm going to stop doing the button.
6:55No, no, it's fair. I just need to get this out because no one mentioned this in any of the reviews. And it really, I was like, how did everyone gloss over this? When you put the effects on, it goes from stereo to mono 100 % of the time. Which, like, why can I not have a stereo chorus? Why can I not have a stereo flanger? Why does this instrument become small and fake sounding? Just because I don't understand how everyone... anyway that's that's my rant that's my thing you know what's tough about this is like at a certain period of time well yeah but a certain period of time inventing the piano and being like the mechanics of a hammer hitting a string and vibrating and doing this would probably be considered technology totally agree we can't go down that's weird i think that's the point we should elaborate at the end all of the things we look at and i think we're going to have to dive into yeah a lot of the cameras i own are like extremely technically complex but they're all fully mechanical right i think we have to draw a clear line of what is tech and what is not and i have i have like two options right now in my head one is is there an on off switch okay and two is is there any compute at all okay can i go next as a stark contrast mine is far less interesting than Ellis's but definitely on the quote unquote dumbest side of probably what we'll see let's do it I'm ready let's do it pulls out a rock this is my cast iron pan that I use almost every day cooking with it is an absolute joy in comparison to regular pans nonstick pans are terrible it is heavy i am extremely extremely proud of the seasoning that has been on it what kind of soap do you use it for it none um i mean okay don't want to start that argument because like if you have a a well-seasoned cast iron fan you can't use soap on it um tell andrew how wrong he is that's not wrong how is um uh designed because soap chemically do it's clean it's not it's not are you trying to say well i don't use soap on it so okay but essentially all this is is an absolute stamped piece of metal yeah cast iron cast iron um and through no love and commitment wait isn't it cast yeah oh cast iron yeah you're right not stamped correct oh true who's got the pan here ellis i can do it too casted i but but so like if you've never cooked in the cast iron pan the sears you get on them are absolutely amazing the versatility what the versatility sears okay the versatility you get out of it being able to put it into the oven and not worry about anything it will last forever this is probably seven or eight years old and it was like twenty dollars it's just lodge lodge is not very expensive lodge rules um and all you have to do is upkeep it pretty much which is not as hard as everyone thinks but out of the things in my house that i use the most that i think fall under the dumb category this will never have wi-fi this will never have an app no on off this will yeah no bluetooth codex like i said not the most exciting no i mean but on the dumb scale i like that it's something i'm also realizing it's still a little dirty as it's supposed to be yeah that's the bottom that's not where the food is it's seasoned yeah not to make this about tech but when i switch to cast iron and this is going to be like so hippy dippy weird but it's when i realized that heat is like really energy in like the same way that electricity is energy like what makes cast iron work so well is it can retain yeah so much more heat so you're cooking with stainless you can get it ripping hot really quick but then you put meat on it all of a sudden you've added this like thermal load you're losing so much heat and so even though you'll get like 10 seconds of sick sear that thermal load is drawing all that heat out of the stainless cast iron on the other hand is just like this giant thermal battery you know what i mean you can you can put such a load on it and it's still able to retain all of that energy on the yeah a big reason cities are like need to be redesigned right now is because so many cities are designed around like concrete and all the like sidewalks and like walls of buildings are concrete and so during the summers they're retaining too much heat and because it's getting slightly hotter every year that's making the effective like radiation of walking around a city feel really hot we need to build cities out of stainless steel that's right cast iron or just you know return to the the forest yeah okay yeah that's fine cool this is good i like I like that.
11:50I think those are stark contrast there. Yeah. Should I go? I'm so excited. I'm excited for yours and for Mariah's for some reason. Those are the ones I'm the most interested in. Far too much hype for mine. Yeah, go. I can go. Mine's very heavy. Give me a second. Mine is too. I think all of our stuff is heavy. Let me give a little preamble. So this is hard for me. Okay. I use a lot of tech in my life for everything that I do. I am terminally connected to the internet and just in general use tech for everything and I also didn't want to go like too easy with like even the things that I've designed like I could have said my shoes or my wallet or my backpack like the obvious stuff that's technically not tech but I got something I did get something even on camera you can't see this but it is sitting on the floor under two jackets so we can't see it it seems heavy oh What the...
12:45Oh, Jesus! The whole table just shook. For audio listeners. What? It's a large object underneath a jacket. Is he about to pull out a sewing machine? Oh! Because I almost bought one of those, too. Is this the Bowflex one? This is... Yes. So this is a Bowflex. I just looked up the name and I got a... I'd been thinking about buying this for a long time. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because it's quite expensive. That weighs 105 pounds. I own the same thing. You just casually lifted 105 pounds. 52 each one's 52 and a half each no each plate is no no no the whole thing the whole thing Sorry, okay, so cutting that from the episode So this is called the Bowflex select tech adjustable select tech Okay
13:38Caught right in but hear me out okay so this is an adjustable dumbbell so as someone who regularly does free weight workouts because they're better than cable machines or any sort of machine in my opinion uh not having to have a ton of different weights of every single weight from five pounds all the way up listen to this that is satisfying it's so funny that the mic is the exact same color way all the way up to total coincidence by the way all the way up to 52 and a half pounds in increments of five or two and a half at the lower weights really cool uh tell me tech makes this sound that's no sounds like a like a typewriter or something um and yeah so you basically you can ratchet into whatever weight you want and let's say i want five pounds now this is five pounds but these like keys in the middle i feel like i'm doing it like an ad or something now i'll do 10 pounds on each side you can do uneven sides but that's silly now it's 10 pounds because it's got extra weight on it and this continues to go all the way up to 52 and a half i have the other one at home which is 100 pounds which is in larger increments between weights i think it's five pounds between every weight really can go up to 100 pound dumbbell wow this thing is great saves me a lot of time if i want to very quickly adjust and add a tiny amount of weight between sets i can do that or just yeah i can use them for anything they're great they're kind of bulky but i recommend them and they're like i got them like in peak covid i was gonna say extremely expensive i got them before covid so they were not that expensive covid it was like an nft like the sales of those yeah they sold out and if they were on people were just reselling them on facebook i tried to get a pair of them and there's no out these were like liquid gold during covid yeah so uh i i understand i have the word tech in the name okay but yeah i don't think that these are tech i brought them because they have no on button no compute they're just weights it is whole that's like the opposite you're completely right there is zero tech involved which is why it's so funny that the first thing you said was the word tech yeah in the process of it i do have to point out there's a difference between technical and technology yeah right like we kind of like combine them at the same time but like technical school used to mean that you would go to school for like a trade yes i do think that they are using when they say select tech they are using the term technology but i think that's because the term technology is extremely overused and anything that's even remotely like innovation yeah they would call this technology that's like their weight selecting technology yeah yeah yeah yeah which you know so it happens to be red and black total it really the fact that they haven't reached out to you and made you uh what part of their marketing team is actually surprising anything innovative used to be called a technology and now we associate it with computers especially us who covers like tech yeah like consumer the world too you know the greek root tech that is the center of both the words technical and technology.
16:45I was just going to look this up. It means it refers to a craft or a skill or a specific thing. That's why it's technical. So we screwed up the word. It's our fault. We commandeered the word. Sort of. Okay, I like that one. I like that a lot. Because it's like, I do like that even though there's no computers in it, it's still like, cool. It's well designed. I wanted to shout out something that was well designed and not designed by me. I will also say during COVID, like before they got super expensive i was trying to decide between that one and like the cheap knockoff amazon basics one i did i'm sure they're all the same no no not according to reviews yeah it does not sound really i got the amazon basics one it was it was no they it's not good the when there's that much weight applied to like a pin mechanism or not it's not a pin mechanism but like sort of a key mechanism like that like yeah they get jammed so in the mechanism of the cheap ones like they take forever to change the weight settings of and then also when you have that much weight on the bar you need it to be like rubberized to the point where it doesn't like really press into your hands and hurt you the cheap ones will do that and also yeah it takes forever to change weights and this was really difficult because i was trying to do like home workout exercises through like i don't know like insanity and that stuff like that and you have to you have to pick up different sets of dumbbells different weights of dumbbells so i was like rapidly trying to change the weights and they were moving really quickly and i just couldn't do it in time so yeah having that paying the extra money for that i think it's worth it okay yeah well yeah there you have it yeah i love it i'm gonna do mine now yeah uh it is predictable but it is not wait then let's guess it's a film it's sitting on the ground yeah i didn't cover it no hey come on I brought arguably, well...
18:38I already know how you're trying to explain it right now. Arguably one of my least technologically advanced cameras in. Okay. Which I have a couple that are just really simple. This one is also really simple, but uses, just like your Bowflex dumbbells, some innovative machining to make it work well and be interesting. That's a clever use of words right there. Okay. I think that might be one of the best parts of this is watching people slowly realize how they wanted to explain it and then changing their words. We've talked many times about my obnoxiously long photographs. So this is my most recent obnoxiously long camera.
19:22Is that way more than the... Ow. That's... It's really heavy. It's really heavy. It does look like it. It is basically just pure steel. What's it called? this is called the Linhoff Technorama Art 624 Technorama? Frick! Easy! Is it Technorama? Oh no You're right That's crazy Why was that? This was made in like I don't know a really long time ago That thing looks far older than I am machining That looks like a Porsche Crest It does look like a Porsche Crest This one's like before the 50s, I'm pretty sure. And they were using... Anyway, the brand is called Toyama, which uses... It's like... I think it's owned by Lindhoff.
20:10Lindhoff is a very old camera company. Anyway, what makes this interesting is it is a 6x24 camera. But... That's just 1x4. Correct. Okay. But we use 6x because there's so many things that use 6 that you just have to be able to compare it to everything else. Like 18x9. Got it. uh yeah like yeah like like yeah 20 20 resolution yeah 21 by 9 16 by 9 yeah exactly okay uh because everything's aspect ratios so it is quite literally just a box right very long box there's a film gate in here and then just a lens that's literally it so the lens in in most modern cameras a lot of stuff happens on the camera itself like you're uh you're changing the shutter speed and you're changing the iso and all this stuff but on this everything happens in the lens itself because this is a large format lens so oh you have a shutter in the lens itself you have shutter speed on the lens itself and you also have aperture on the lens itself right here i have a question closes the aperture yeah so you trigger shutter with the lens yes how does the shutter speed mechanism communicate with the shutter?
21:27Like, how does it know how long to open? Yeah. Tension. Really? Yeah. Interesting. It's all just tension, which is insane that they are able to get it that, like, precise. And they can do it from one second all the way up to one five hundredth of a second. Jeez. There's also bulb mode and all that stuff. So, like, for example, oh, you hear that? I do. Doesn't that sound amazing? Hold it up to the, yeah. Yeah.
21:54that's good doesn't the spring lose tension over time though like 70 years old you would think so and often you need to get uh these kind of things cla'd but for some reason large format lenses are good can you explain what sorry cla means uh clean um lube and arson something else but it's basically just like cleaning up the insides of a of the camera. So here's the caulking mechanism. So you caulk it. And then you have it like 1 500th of a second. And usually you use this. Okay, oh, here's the other cool part. Okay. Sorry, this is long-winded. So the back of the camera, where you put the film in, secretly hides this, which is a ground glass system.
22:45Yeah. And then the ground glass system goes on here and then you have to use like a dark cloak um but when the lens is all the way open and before you put the film in you're able to see and frame through that and frame through that you can't really see it from there because you can point it at a brighter light source generally and it mostly circulars in the middle anyway it's an 8x10 lens uh with this 6x24 film gate so yeah Everything happens in the lens itself. And then for focus, you have this knob, which literally just moves a bellows forward and backward because you're just focusing the light on the film plane.
23:25And, yeah, so you can hook up a shutter release to here, which allows you to, like, do it remotely. But once you cock it, you can fire it by just pressing this. Wow. And it sounds very nice. If you have it on one second, you know, you cock it and you shoot it and it's like, that's the spring. Whoa. Isn't that awesome? Dude, there's some good sounds on the spring. I know. It's, yeah. I saw you brought a camera. I tried not to look that hard. At first I thought it was the 3D printed one and I was going to go off about like 3D printing. No, no, no. That's, I specifically did not bring that one because of that.
24:03I've been like looking at every nook and cranny of this to try and find something electrical. Dude, it is pure mechanical. It's by proxy of this built-in. You said the 50s? It's like the 30s, I think. There's just no way it's tech. Yeah, Ben Franklin hadn't discovered electricity. That's good stuff. Even though there's a physical level on top, everything is as well. It's a bubble level, though. Yeah, there's a bunch of different bubble levels, and then they actually mounted... You know how on my 3D-printed camera I use the smartphone as the viewfinder? They actually made a viewfinder that you can look through the top here.
24:38so this is more like after you've already loaded the film and you've used the back end to if you perfectly frame you know because it's going to be a little off so okay this this ground glass is only if you want to like focus but with the camera like this you're mostly shooting landscapes that's fine you're mostly shooting landscapes and if you want to focus you can only really do it for like one shot because you only get three shots in a roll of film on this anyway yeah you can only open it for the first one or before the first one. You could focus it and then bracket it, which would be doing different exposures to make sure that you get the right exposure.
25:17HDR, you say? No. Well, kind of. Sure. Manual HDR. But yeah, there's literally nothing wiry or computer-y about this. It's a box. You're super right about that. That's sick. It's a box. I love boxes. So protocols and boxes. that's that's what i like anyway that's that's my thing how good is the face detect in the autofocus are there any filters yeah yeah well yes you could put a filter on the front but yeah i don't know i will say also um as someone who has now shot six by 24 and six by 17 six by 24 is too long it is i am admitting a little bit of defeat it is too long it's just obnoxious to show on the internet at all i was i was gonna i was gonna go into that but yeah yeah so yeah i do love my box though even though it's made of steel and it's a really heavy i feel like david is the winner so far oh wow i do like how uh even though none of our objects are theoretically technology except ellis's right yeah totally they all are very like mechanically interesting yeah yeah it used to be technology yeah you know like andrew's is physics not that interesting you're just making it involved technology less interesting more everyday useful the physics of cast iron are interesting it's cool versus a different kind of pan it's a porous metal yeah well we have many more uh of these items to show and tell to get to so without any further ado i think let's jump into those see what everybody else brought all right after the break
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29:35All right, welcome back. So as I mentioned before, we asked everyone at the studio who wanted to, who had something to bring it in and maybe show us and maybe convince us why we might want that thing. Again, no tech, just something you use every day, something you enjoy, something you can't get enough of that has no tech involved, bring in the first person. Let's see what they brought.
30:04It's very funny because Tim can't hear the welcome music, but all of us can. Oh, there it is. Yeah. I also think it's funny that when I hear clapping, I instinctively want to clap. Please clap. Please clap. I have to make noise with my hands. Is that why they started hiring all the Apple people to clap? So that Tim Cook doesn't want to tell people? It's why they have laugh track in TV shows. For people who don't know, who is this? Oh, sorry. Hey, Tim. No one knows who I am. Have you ever been on the podcast before? Remotely. Also get clustered with the mic. I've been remotely. Well, welcome. I was in my bedroom.
30:34So, Tim, you... So, I don't know if anyone's things that we've brought so far have had anything to do with what we do here, but I figured some people might do that. So, you do graphics. You do some design on the channels. What have you brought to show us today? Right. So I'm going to post some questions real quick. David. Okay. You're someone that likes to go out of nature, right? You appreciate nature. What if I had something that you could appreciate on a deeper level and feel more of an emotional connection, right? Even more than nature? Yeah. No, just something to feel better, like a deeper connection to nature and appreciation on another level, right?
31:09Do you bring mushrooms in the office? Bro, Andrew, I'll skip you. Okay. Hold on. Marquez. Andrew's also a danger boy. You like puzzles, right? Wordle? You play Wordle. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, things that, you know, tickle your brain, critical thinking, that kind of stuff, right? What if I had something that would appease that as well? I'd be into that. Yeah? I think so. You're all athletic too, right? A little bit. You can rip a frizz. You got strong forearms. Rip a frizz. Yeah. I'm using that. All right. Okay. I love that. What I brought today. Oh. oh yeah so for the listeners these are a pair of la sportiva finale climbing shoes climbing climbing shoes is what i brought today yeah yeah this is about a hundred dollar product maybe 130 if you don't get them on sale is a carabiner yeah so i can have either views like backpacks climbing shoes real they are yeah i used to climb a little they're like the epitome of low low tech will also be like they are the most uncomfortable shoes you wear they're so uncomfortable yeah every sport i play has specialty footwear that are all uncomfortable uh most specialty footwear is uncomfortable because they're specialty they're like designed for a purpose rather than comfort you know climbing shoes are like if you took your ultimate cleats and it needed to form your big toe into the spike that went into the ground yeah imagine that the whole time you're wearing the thing though i i mean yeah they're all uncomfortable this is probably the most comfortable like they're pitched as one of the more comfortable like endurance shoes like you could wear these for four or five hours if you're out in the you know the woods or the you know so the technical the technical prowess of like what are they designed around what is the benefit of climbing shoes grip more toe on edge you're trying to get a better edge that's how angles like back in the early days they used to just have like streetwear shoes like converse whatever and they would just tie them so tight that their feet would you want your toes to curl so you have toe downs you can grip it right whoa but over time they've adapted the shoes to to have a little bit more of that edge and to be a little bit more comfortable so you're not literally you know like buying so they're flexible around the toe area they have a little bit of toe flex but they're meant to be stiff so that your toe doesn't flex too much so more of the work is kind of in the shoe and not so much on your muscles so you do the toe flex and marquez does the bow flex nice okay he brought in his bow flex so
33:45anyway yeah um cool i mean and and climbing is a good one in this because especially outdoor climbing is generally like one of the least technical things possible you're climbing on something that is nature it's like not even built you have to put your phone away you have to be social you have to really think and like you know yeah you got to be in the moment too it's pretty in the moment that's true that's true i do like them and they are just like you know you've made adam shoes and how much of that was based on comfort and style i was gonna say andrew he skipped you but now that you've seen these are these good they're they're good shoes there's like a lot of different types of shoes like he was saying as uncomfortable as those look those are meant for more comfortable like people generally use that for more traditional climbing where they're up on a wall for a really long time where like bouldering shoes start getting a little more of like turn your foot into an eagle talon because you're usually doing things at a little more of an angle.
34:44So it benefits if your toes bent down a little more to be able to get things at this level. I didn't bring those in. I mean like a lot of people and it gets to the point where and this is for like the professionals who are using the smallest holes possible, like, holds to put their feet on. Their shoes will be so tight that they can't fit their foot inside them. They essentially have to put a plastic, like, grocery bag in them. I shouldn't be putting my hand inside Tim's climbing shoe. That's not great. And then they'll put the plastic bag so their foot can slip in, and then you pull the plastic bag out, so it's like, yeah, it gets in touch.
35:18They're wearing, like, two street sizes down, or, like, whatever their street size, like, if you're a size 13, they're wearing, like, basically size 11s. Oh, that's great. like yeah so i'm i think i like i'm down one whole size of what my street shoe is dang that's why it has twice as many yeah pull oh yeah huh okay interesting yeah that's my non-tech item for you guys yeah i like it definitely even in the like shoe tech it's a niche tech of it um but yeah like for normal shoes it is not following any of the standard protocols i like it thank you tim We're going to get you on the wall. I know it.
35:57One day. Don't give in, Marquez. Do you know what the tops of the shoes are made of? What is that soft material? Oh, be careful, Tim. Suede. Suede? Yeah, this is literally like suede, polyester laces, and rubber. Rubber. Yes. Well, suede is just... Polyester is a blend. Yeah. They're extremely comfortable. Cool. All right. Thank you very much, Tim. It's been a pleasure. We appreciate you. I like your shoes.
36:35There's a wizard about this. I love this. All right, next up, Vin Dang.
36:50I see the item already. He brought one for all of us. Yeah, this is a little bit of a show and tell. Okay. Oh, wow. So you can inspect these. Oh, oh. These gloves. Oh, wow. Those look nice. So my item is my lacrosse stick. But you don't need all the extra stuff. You know, you can play by yourself or with friends. Mm-hmm. And you don't necessarily need the default ball. But there's two different balls, technically, if you feel them up. this one is the traditional one and this is a newly manufactured ball even though it looks a little bit older that's not actually made of the same rubber it doesn't grease up the same as if like the uh the original ball so within a year like because there's a lot of kids playing and like the ball gets tossed around a lot and like through weather they traditionally get slick and oily to the point that the rubber like gives out and you kind of can't throw the ball consistently so the newer ones are manufactured differently different construction so this is our second sports item of the day yeah so tim had climbing shoes tim climbs i imagine you're playing a good amount of lacrosse uh little known fact i played one season of lacrosse a very long time ago in high school uh around the high school age yeah uh yeah yeah i think early high school and i realized i didn't like getting trucked all the time yeah so i stopped playing do you get bodied is that what it is you can yeah you can get stick checked but you can also get body checked like in hockey you can have someone run right up to you and just absolutely i don't like that i don't like because i would not do it to other people and then i would feel i was stick checking a lot but check this right you ever played catch with like a parent or uh an older sibling for sure i've been known to yeah maybe with your friends maybe if you don't have friends you could play against the wall yeah that's a thought about that yeah because those balls are really bouncy right so you can just like rip it out a wall and then receive it back yeah lacrosse has always been interesting first of all this glove is really impressive actually look at this like well careful about engineering has joints the the civil engineering it's like for such a protective glove the ventilation and the movement in it is like say those words really impressive i'm just making a joke we should explain that you're allowed to say whatever you want then this is a native american sport if y 'all didn't know really yes wow so that's awesome the reason why it's called lacrosse it sounds kind of french right that's because french canadians coined that term after they took it from the native americans wow do you know what it was called originally uh i don't know the exact name in the language but it was called the creator's game there's a really cool i think it's a youtube channel of a person who still makes the like original lacrosse sticks of like cart like taking from a tree slowly benching the top and weaving the netting out of it it's really interesting that's awesome then we gotta ask when did you start playing lacrosse i started in middle school but well i started casually in middle school but i got a stick in fifth grade from my friend marshall rhodes shout out fifth grade birthday present also that's her sick birthday present exposure yeah i i think this definitely is not tech and this definitely qualifies as a interesting and potentially very useful and fun also sports related i have a question do you have a lacrosse activity on your apple watch yes that's gonna hurt that's gonna hurt we're like we're like attempting to find the absolute the holes the holes holes also this glove says vapor which is like vaporware or it's just like regular vapor so that's got it so this one is pure scandium but if you look at the top of that one i left the head off you can see a little insert and around that insert do you see any layering?
41:03I mean yeah it's like white and then black that black part it's carbon fiber oh back in my day when I started I played competitively in high school for a couple of years and carbon fiber was not as popular but now after some advancements and non non I'm not going to mention some innovative structural engineering no no no after some time they figured it out there's been a lot of improvements over the years it's cool to come back and see what's changed where we're at awesome alright thank you very much this falls under the non-tech category you did an excellent job thank you very much for coming in appreciate it go ahead and play and good luck at your next game or match or whatever it's called yes match i think match right game game game set it's a game okay yeah i've seen this on your instagram story recently looks fun very nice didn't have tech in the name it's good good it's good all right we're ready for our next contestant question mark it's brandon havard brandon
42:32welcome thanks welcome welcome tell us and then before you tell us anything you may notice we We have buzzers here. These are our That's Tech buzzers. So at any point, if any of us get a whiff of technology, you might hear a sound. Yeah. No pressure. Anyway, go on. I'm not concerned. Continue. What is your item, Brandon? Well, I mean, I think a few people would probably not be surprised by this information, but I really like writing on paper. I really like writing on paper. Specifically dotted paper, because you get some nice clean lines on dotted paper. It's dotted. Like, yeah. Like a dot grid kind of situation.
43:17I like storyboarding because I don't really like to think too much up here. I like to put it on paper. So I have a few notebooks. This is just from the past year. And these two notebooks are paired with the Ridge Pen. Interesting. I will say I think the benefits of something like Dotted paper is you kind of have like built-in Can you stop? I don't like that you're good at everything. It feels like flexing on us. Oh, here's like a casual drawing of the CMF phone one. I get rather bored sometimes when I'm like like waiting at a doctor's appointment or something so like. Wait, you're not doom scrolling?
44:00You're using your notebooks instead? I'm usually using my notebooks. how dare you do something healthy for your mental state or like you know go to a coffee shop and draw a storyboard i don't like it okay and it's it's fun what's the name of the notebook you know that's a great question i um i'll try and find the link but it's it's just a notebook like it's it's more so the category the fact that it doesn't have a name feels so much more in line with like it being the most basic simple thing that we're asking what kind of drawings do people do with dotted paper i mean usually you're looking at more creative drawings would you call them most part technical drawings to a degree so what i think is interesting and maybe this is what helps with that is like it's like dotted in a grid pattern so it's less obtrusive than full-on just lined paper because you know like art kind of looks bad on line paper but it has more reference points somehow still than line paper so you can go diagonally up and down in a much more consistent manner so like when you're doing storyboarding you have a very set grid pattern of how you're setting that up also what i like is that they're not like the dots are not really like dark they're very soft so you can you know draw over them and this was i mean they go back quite a bit but yeah this was the first page which was the m2 macbook air intro such a good intro too thanks bro as the person who's generally controlling the robot for a lot of these ideas like it is so useful to have stuff like this i remember like when we first started doing it it was just like and a close-up of the left side of this and then this is my fault this is not brandon's fault but i see that robot the robot so has but like brandon being able to say like this is what i want and it looking exactly what it's supposed to look like in frame makes all of our jobs easier it's a little faster yeah it's so much faster yeah but yeah that's that's my pick that's awesome caveat to this yeah if you want to enjoy what brandon does you have to be talented right i'm out that's that's not true I agree with that it's not true the dots help actually this is definitively not tech and definitively useful and we all can vouch okay I expect to hear back from you guys very shortly thank you very much see you later Brandon bye
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46:27everyone's doing really good with this yeah except except that's exactly hey like what's the name of the notebook not tech obviously oh my gosh okay to be fair to mine it's called the techno so like no tech you know techno oh you can't get it having a name i gotta say that was okay i think up next at least according to my list we have someone who's got something pretty interesting. So without further ado, I think it's time to bring on MKBHD editor, Mariah Zank.
47:10Oh, wait. Oh, you're just using the box. I don't think it's what you're thinking. Mariah always goes unhinged. It's probably going to be something different. It's much heavier looking. There's Bowflex in there. there we go hello sharks today i'm looking for a one billion dollar stake for 10 of my company just go to peter luger yeah and i know you love an unboxing experience i do so i will let you open the apparatus okay okay i'm still hoping it's not what i think it is this fintech and i hope it is it's not fintech related okay never mind bummer okay so there's several things in here I'm just gonna take them each out what are we looking at okay you have to dramatically open the item I see so I will so we're looking at a scroll of sorts like fabric on two wooden blocks that is being unrolled I think I know what this is what do you think it is is it the foot hammock for under your desk wait this is i think i know what this is what do you think it is david i also thought it was a table tennis uh net what do you think it is marcus i think that's a table tennis net i don't i know i no longer think it's a table i'm sticking with it heads are at it's a table tennis net is this really a you know what is it double as it well andrew unfortunately knows how my brain chemistry works and it is a foot hammock for under your desk and um it is clearly a white labeled amazon product from a nondescript company uh for an unknown price because i did not purchase this but i have become converted really i would say oh so uh so these go it has two clips and then you loop it over oh yeah probably tie it in it okay it might be hard to sway you because i I feel like this is a product potentially for short people.
49:17And you're all very tall. If you could please list your heights for all of the audio listeners. I'm the shortest one on the podcast. I'm 7 '9". 180 inch vertical. I'm 5 '10 and a half. I'm 6 '2". I think everybody could be converted into using this item potentially. For anyone who needs to fidget. If we like to all collectively fidget at our desk. You can kind of swing your feet around. I do like that idea. yeah yeah it's more of a swing then than a hammock right um yeah yeah it's whatever you want it to be okay so your feet rest on it like on your desk all the time wait whenever just not all the time just whenever you want we have to explain something to you you might see marquez holding a buzzer right now oh yeah this is our button that alerts if we're sniffing some tech out inside of it so if the button gets pressed it means we're uh on the path to breaking the rules i would say this is probably as low tech as you could go does the foot hammock have an app no good answer um there's no app there's no uh subscription service um there's no electronics in fact that might surprise you no on off button um yeah no rgb unfortunately no rgb Did you buy it on Amazon Prime?
50:36She did not buy it. I didn't buy it, so I don't know. How did you not buy it? It just appeared in my home. So you know what's funny? These desks that we have, and also my desk and some others in the studio, are made by Xdesk, I think is what they're still called. And one of the options that you can buy is, I think it's called an artisan bar or something like that, but it's like a support bar that's under the desk that you can rest your feet on. And I'm always resting my feet on that. Oh. So this would serve the same purpose, but for desks that don't have that bar. And you get to swing if you have this.
51:09Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm just realizing this table has one of those, and my feet are always on. That's what I'm saying. Guys, sharks,$1 billion. $4 billion. I do think I could use this because my desk is up against a wall, and if you were to look at that wall that is painted white, it just has foot scrape marks up and down it because I'm putting my feet out. so often it's using the wall to do it. You could probably easily make this at home if you really wanted to. You'd probably have to cut this off. There's no way to change the foot fabric. So once this thing's dirty, you're kind of hosed. Do you know what it looks like?
51:44The back of a director's chair? Yeah, that's true. What if I just steal a director's chair? A small table tennis net. A really, really small table. Yeah. Anyway. No, this is good. Cool. I didn't press my buzzer once and didn't even think I needed to I thought you were going to try and make her describe the desk and then go that route but I mean survive the button do you use this at home? yes this is an at home apparatus did we describe what this looks like already? it is basically the back of a director's chair with rope Mariah what sits on top of your desk while you're using this? what do you mean?
52:28Is it just an empty desk? It's her architecture desk. Like I'm just sitting at an empty desk swinging my feet? That's what I'm asking. No. That's what I do in a hammock. This is a foot hammock. What's on the desk, Mariah? Are your feet? What's on the desk, Mariah? No, my kids don't. Please, I need this. I'm just wondering. Sharks, I really need this. No, yeah, okay. It's a pen and a piece of paper. Just like Brandon. Brandon's desk. Just like Brandon. Mariah, thank you so much for joining us. You've been wonderful. Please take your weird foot thing and leave. I'm requesting we get all of these for the podcast desk because we are in here for a long amount of time.
53:09And I would love. There'll be a foot cam in the next episode. Thank you. Yes. Thank you, Mariah. Fun fact, this desk did have the bar. We just didn't attach it. Oh, yeah. Also, I would like it. Mariah, I really thought your cat was in the box first. I would love that. Oh, my God. And then it didn't move. And I was just like, push the desk. She put it down very softly. And like, it looked like it was really heavy. And I was like, that's a cat. That would have been the best thing ever. Oh, my God. All right. So we've also had two sports things so far. That's true. Clearly healthy work life balance.
53:48Let's see what the next item slash person is. Because up next we have special. I don't know his title. He just special agent. He makes stuff special agent just makes stuff happen guy Jono
54:09Welcome welcome awesome All right Jono tell us what you brought for us today. So i'm really big into disc golf, right? And I've been developing my technique a lot. And that means farther throws, more risky shots. And unfortunately enough, they go into water sometimes, especially on the course near me. So today, I brought you what's called a disc retriever. And this one specifically is called the max distance. And it has 42 suction cups. And I love this thing. Holy crap. Yeah. So it looks like a bunch of suction cups arranged in a ball at the end of a stick that I assume goes a very far distance.
54:57Can we pull this out? Yeah. How far? Just start sending it. I want to see how far this goes. It goes. This one goes to like 29 and a half. That's how thin the top is? Oh my goodness. I just want to say, I've played disc golf with John many times. The course by him has a lot of water carries. Oh my gosh. This room won't fit it. It won't fit it. It won't fit it in that sense. i can touch it's so good losing a disc in the water you know they're like 15 to 20 bucks it's not the end of the world but getting it back is nice i think i have like this one costs about 160 dollars oh really yeah this is so funny okay yeah i i've like honestly retrieved like 40 or so discs really yeah so it's paid for itself yeah paid for itself wow and that's that saved like three of mine yeah and i know you love carbon fiber and it's carbon fiber pieces most of the things today have been carbon fiber a lot of carbon fiber in here so what's because it's suction cup if a disc is in the water and generally flat on top if you have like the one I have is just like two hooks which you can kind of drag with but underwater if it can't get like over it or into that spot that suction is really well on the top of it and as long as you move slowly it'll just slowly pull back so you don't have to push into the water this is Cadence's dog disc you go and i can't believe you didn't bring an actual disc golf disc i literally forgot whoa that works really well even in the water it works well it works even better in the water i would say the thing is when you're going to water because of like light refractions it does take a little bit of like i've used this you know core strength nagling no it's actually not that bad it's only like in uh under two pounds i believe do you think this would work better if there were rgb leds on the end no because that would be tech see better no no saw right through your question too easy too easy yeah it's funny that because you said 160 bucks which sounds expensive for what it is but the ratio of that like so i play golf and the ratio is flipped like if you hit a golf ball into a lake it's pretty much always gone unless it's near like the edge that's like three four bucks a ball yeah and so as you play around a golf you will probably lose a couple of golf balls in the woods in the water whatever and that might add up to a certain amount per round but in in disc golf the disc is also like the club yeah you reuse it many times and so if you lose your putter like that you that's like worth a lot more than like a three dollar golf ball yeah so spent so i'm not going to go retrieve my three dollar golf ball from the middle of a lake but i will go retrieve with this gigantic telescoping carbon fiber pole yeah my putter and disc golf well it's also one of those things is that you as a player fall in love with your discs as you kind of break them in a little bit and those become kind of irreplaceable at some points like the clubs yeah or it takes like a ton of effort to get it back to the like yeah and i actually have two of those so that's a 29 and a half and i got like a 15 feet one for jillian so well you know we got two this end part here and this part are 3d printed yeah it's fine it's fine it's fine it's fine uh since it's disc golf and you've got a couple minutes left favorite what is one disc that you would like go to extreme lengths with that or just straight up in the water to get if you needed to i've told i i texted you when this happened oh yeah I'm pretty much, if I can get out of work early enough, can I go home early?
58:33I might actually go swimming for one because it is in a lake, but unfortunately there's a lot of like fallen branches around. You know where it is? Yeah, I know exactly where it is. But because of how all the branches are arranged, it's kind of making it into like a little jail that I can't get it out with that. So I might have to do that. It's a Disgraph Athena. Go swimming. There are animals in this lake? they're all probably leeches but audience members still water is disgusting if water is standing still do not have any cuts when you get in it yeah leeches will get to you I was thinking something disc golf related but I was just thinking of some discs and I haven't played long enough but that is a really good way of doing of saving discs also what a goofy object it's so silly looking yeah it's like it sticks out on my bag like a flagpole and people just go that's a sick retriever man it's one of those things though where when you're playing disc golf people outside of disc golf you're like i hope they're not making fun of me and that in a bag is almost guaranteeing you should paint it gold so that you can call it your golden retriever oh that's that's that's good that's it that's innovative one last fun thing with those is if you have a friend who has one when they're walking you can kind of throw your disc sideways and see if it'll stick to it when it's sitting on their bag um that's always a fun game yeah that one works incredible dang wow that's good yeah what section you don't miss yep so that's mine cool awesome cool thank you very much distance is the name of the product and the company yeah oh no uh yeah max distance Wait, what does that say underneath there?
1:00:15Dot com. Max. MaxDistance.com. Where's the buzzer? They have a website. All right. All right. That is good. Thank you, Jono.
1:00:31Fabulous. Guys, you know what one of my favorite smells is? It's related. It's an incredible transition. It's like golf course or amusement park water. like the super chlorinated like super why do my feel like you're thinking of like mini golf course or golf courses chlorinated have a different smell like sewage i've never been to a golf course so oh i i've been to a lot of golf courses i mean i think the mini golf course with the little like water thing can smell like a chlorinated interesting i like mini golf yeah anyway real quick all right thank you jano we're gonna take one more ad break and then we've got four or five more people left and then we'll uh decide a winner decide a winner at the end make sure to stick around
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1:03:01That is correct. Alex Wolf. We all loaded. Oh. Oh, I feel like I know what this is. Oh, man, is this the Sixers theme song? If it is, I'm walking out. That would be so funny if that's what I pulled out. Alright, Alex. I feel like I've seen your item before, but tell us what you brought today. I brought a Wilson NBA grade, apparently, basketball. Okay. No more actually. Third sports item. Third sports item. We're an athletic bunch. Actually, fourth. Because John did the stick. Oh, fourth. Tim did the shoes. Climbing. the uh climbing lacrosse the lacrosse golf basketball fourth wow so the basketball itself we do one non-tech thing and everyone goes full jock you would you would you believe we play sports here my camera's heavy and i lift it so that's a sport so this is so what is it called by the way because i don't actually know it's a wilson wilson nba authentic series so this is actually one that we had in the studio um that you used for the short with the 3D printed basketball, which I would never bring in here because that is very much tech.
1:04:22Correct. This one is just a regular old basketball. Now, mine is a little more worn than this, but I figured just for the camera, make it look pretty, I would use the one that we just had hanging out here. Okay, but the 3D printed one is so cool. Sure it is, but it doesn't really fit the assignment or else I would have brought it in. I think the reason we think it's cool is the exact reason why it shouldn't be in the tech detox episode. Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't have a processor. You could also include a hoop or really anything in basketball because it's not tech. And then you just have the entire.
1:04:54But yeah, this sort of illustrates that. NBA, some of the floors now light up, right? That's true. Well, yeah, there are high-tech versions of like every part of basketball. Only in the All-Star game. They did that just for the contests. What about that new stadium that the old Microsoft CEO. Yeah, Clippers. They have a new stadium. It's pretty safe. That stadium's crazy. Wait, Alex. Yes. What makes an NBA authentic basketball different than any basketball I would get at Dick's Sporting Goods? Branding. Wait, are you serious? Yeah, that's pretty much it. Money. It's not like a different material or closet or size or...
1:05:29Really? Are you serious? I thought... This one is mostly just the same size and weight and whatever is an NBA basketball, but this one is actually made for indoor-outdoor, so it's a little more durable of a material. But yeah, mostly it's just branding. No, wait, I totally thought there was, like, a different, like, grip composite and, like, no. There is a... It's pretty grippy. The way that the ball is fused together... Fused? Yeah, whatever. I don't know. I'm reaching. There's been a lot of reaching in this episode. All right, so have I officially been buzzed? Oh, no, no, no, no. Do I get to do my rant now?
1:06:03What is the rant? I can keep going. Well, I have one. I have one prepared if you want. What's the rant? If we decide it's tech? Yeah, if you guys decide it's tech, I have a very strong rebuttal. It's tech. All right. Well, you have 27 seconds left. Okay. Oh, my God. All right. Here. Everybody, look at this image. Look at this. Wait, you should have looked this down earlier. Look at this. This is how much the basketball has changed in 130 or so years. Barely at all. Do you think James Naismith had an iPhone? Do you think that he decided to draw this on an iPad? No, he didn't. He woke up one day and he said, I want to be a hooper.
1:06:40and I want the world to be hoopers. Who is James Naismith? James Naismith invented basketball. I want a hoop. The 1981 one looks like a... Who said who's James Naismith? What's wrong with narrow basketball? Everyone knows basketball was invented by Jonathan Basketball. Alex, I just have a question. David, could you read what this says right there? Oh, I printed it off a computer. Basketbaloney.jpg. I printed it off a computer. resolution 1280 by 760 pixels it is actually really cool how little it's changed though the old basketballs look like rugby that looks like sort of football stitching almost basically yeah well i mean that's how you had to make a ball balance so that's so that's the question okay back in the day they were stitching it together like this now they're making it with some sort of fusing okay so you know what's funny famously back in the day 2006 if you look at that basketball They tried to change the NBA basketball and make it not leather and make it a composite material.
1:07:42The players hated it. Fine woven? Yeah, they made a fine woven basketball, yes. The players hated it so much that they had to change it mid-season and completely cancel all of these basketballs that they had. I think they just freaking threw them away. Wow. So, yeah, they had to do that. So, just to illustrate how non-tech basketball is, the smallest amount of tech was added to basketball, a composite material, and the players revolted. you know that is sports a lot that is a lot of sports i think golf is i keep coming back to golf because i play it but it's interesting because there's a lot of tech and it kind of went both ways it got really really good really fast all the drivers got bigger all the golf balls got bouncier and every shot went further and spinnier and everybody loved it and then it kept going and now it's kind of at like this can we go back a little bit moment where everything is too good and too forgiving and too easy um interesting no this is great i i was gonna make the point that that the 3D printed basketball is just further along this line.
1:08:38Sure, but I don't think it's ever gonna actually get used. You don't think so? No, that thing would cut your fingers up, dude. If you're trying to reach in for a steal on that. Okay, but if they had stuff around it, you know. I guess, but then what's the point? Isn't the whole point of limiting the nerves? It's quieter and bouncier. For people like me. But when you wrap stuff around it, it's loud again. Yeah, you wrap stuff around it, it gets loud again. Because then the sound doesn't just go through it. That's the whole thing with that ball, is that the reason it's quiet is because the air is just going right through it.
1:09:02If you wrap it in something, then it's having that same. Reverbs. Got it Alex. I have a story to tell you before you go. Okay I got a basketball recently on the street like it was on the curb someone's getting rid of it And I was playing around with it and you know, I'm pretty bad at basketball Don't have like the biggest hands in the world and I was just Handling like I was I was James Harden with this thing bro through the legs behind the back doing stuff I've never been able to do before and I was like damn this basketball is is sauced bro Like I can I am ripping right now and then I came to work the next day and realized it was a child-sized I was about to say it's a size 5 used basketball.
1:09:35Just a minuscule basketball. That is a kindergartner basketball. Yeah, it was really... Like, I'm not talking like Nerf basketball size, but, you know... Slightly bigger than a palm ball. Slightly bigger than a grapefruit, yeah. It was pretty embarrassing to realize I didn't... Anyway, Alex, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. You've been wonderful. Thank you. Alex followed the process very well. Number one Joel Embiid fan. Does everyone get their own theme song? I'm probably gonna have to reuse a few but for the most part I still have a bunch left we haven't used that one was a point he didn't even hear the music and he was doing it that's a good point 6-4 center UC Berkeley Jamad Giacomagos Camden 76ers you shut the f*** up with that I feel like my prime what I bring to the table as an employee is if you give me an assignment, I will always go above and beyond in the silliest way, like coming up with 10 original music cues.
1:10:40But up next, we have... How do we introduce this guy? Oh, you don't know who it is. No. It's either Eric or Rich, right? No, we got three, four people left. Oh. We got Eric Rich and... Miles. Yeah, it is... It's Miles. Up next is Miles. Okay. Up next is Miles. Needs no introduction. He's the fastest in the studio of both running and sitting. He's the fastest sitting? What does that mean? Oh. Well, he hasn't raced me before. I could be faster.
1:11:17Miles, welcome.
1:11:21We got a theme song for you. It's a good one. And a crowd, apparently. What have you brought to show us today? Okay. So we've seen quite a few items already, you know, varying in sizes. You know, I don't have some really big gargantuan item to show, but it does have a lot of heart and also may have some long-term detrimental effects on my heart in the future. But that's neither here nor there. So, no lady and gentlemen, I introduce to you fair performance nutrition in the prickly pear flavor. It's pre-workout? Pre-workout. Oh, my God. Now. Are we jocks here at this company? Crazy. Everyone's bringing in sports and workout stuff.
1:12:10Now, give me a minute to try to sell this, right? So, I chose this product not only because it is as far removed from technology as a lot of the other stuff you've seen today. But. I want to look at this thing. Since it has entered my life thanks to resident pod god Adam, who is not here. I thought Adam was here. He's not here. He's sick. He probably drank too much then. Yeah. Get better soon. Probably because of this. Get better soon, Adam. It has vastly improved my fitness journey in the past three, four months I've used it. But I'm not asking you to believe me. I'm only asking you to believe the numbers.
1:12:52My muscles. which i have i mean i have some numbers to show you today six six just the shimu baby all right so i don't know if you guys want to pass this around you're familiar with like the apple fitness yes the what you can swipe two times to see a february and then a march for just like mile times, right? Nothing crazy. Mile times? Yeah. Like you can just look at the first mile time. Okay. So in two months, you went from seven minutes to 6.30? Yes. Or no, 7.30 to 6.30. So you went down one minute. Right. So that is pre-BPN. Wow. That's super impressive already. If you want to go to the slide after that, June, July, August, you see a substantial improvement in the mild time.
1:13:52522 in July. Wow. And then 449 in August. Jeez. So, yeah. Wait, let me see. Sorry. Significantly. That heart rate. I didn't look at the heart rate, though. Yo, what is the heart rate going up to? Yeah, a little bit. 173 BPM. but you got to do that to get to a 440 mile no yeah 100 i mean what i don't think i reached any crazy numbers no yeah 170 in a full sprint isn't i think if i was like 210 or something like that that'd be a little concerning uh kids don't do drugs look you can buy this on amazon i think it's it's you know if it was not supposed to be there is a significant amount of caffeine in it which is probably the biggest thing.
1:14:37So obviously... Which is why I don't recommend... Consume caffeine. Marquez is making a face. Taking this every day. How much? It's like 300 milligrams. If anyone remembers Dr. Mike coming on the show, I think he said you shouldn't consume more than 400 milligrams a day. Right. So when I have this, this is my only caffeine intake for the day. No coffee, no Celsius, Red Bull, anything. This is it. So I'm trying to do it responsibly. that is uh over three cups of coffee like espresso shots right not just like yeah i think a general cup of coffee is around 80 milligrams uh i saw 90 on google but um but yeah that's all 90 so to conclude right um you know my fitness journey is one of the ways i tried to like push myself and self-improve and so bpn bear nutrition performance it means more than just bear nutrition performance it means boldly pursuing new opportunities it means not only believing in progress not perfection get what i'm saying is this a presidential run right now i just have one question miles um yeah at the top it says flight is our pre-workout supplement created to boost your power output, improve focus, and increase energy without the crash or jitters.
1:15:57Yeah. Is that actually true about it? I think so. I mean, you've seen me function day to day. I'm not dead. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, this is... No crash? I took some this morning around six o 'clock, you know? No crash? If you really wanted to pitch it to us well, you would have taken it right before you joined us. Yeah. I would have been done like two months ago. Yeah. Okay. No, yeah. That's a good vouch then. That's a good voucher. I didn't see any I read the entire label. I didn't see any of any tech ring There were any CPUs in the ingredients. No, no snap you power. No on off. No, so dragon. Yeah Thank you very much.
1:16:36Yeah, you're the only person that brought in a controlled substance so so far I think I will feel alone probably So yeah, that's that's it wait before you go miles where can people find you in our content because you're in videos now quite a fair amount um yeah i mean i've been on like every channel at this point um but autofocus that's the main one that's where and that's where i live that's that's my corner of the internet studio stuff if you want to see what miles is like on 300 milligrams of caffeine with a ferrari v12 you can see both those things together on youtube.com slash autofocus alright now get out of my podcast thank you very much very nice thank you
1:17:26don't forget your daily driver oh don't worry that's fine I can't live without that alright up next we got Eric my fault I'm sorry there we go oh I like this one this is good music oh welcome this is some like acdc kind of stuff we have theme music going if you it's over it you missed it yeah you'll have to try that what it is by watching could you sing it
1:18:00it's about how it went cool yeah so uh myself or something no yeah no just straight to what are you i wait for viewers have never met eric yeah they haven't met eric hi ferrick i am eric i am miles's personal trainer i i mean i turned that ship around real good um and then he was like eric if you can if you're if you can turn me this skinny little sack of bones in the muscular man i am now i think you could also co-produce for our studio channel and so that is that is like what that's how you're doing that's like what i do for like money but like my soul is in the personal training for sure so i have spoons i'm already terrified okay spoons this isn't gonna be one of those like cupping things right what is that cupping people like it's like a massage it's like a weird thing does that involve spoons oh yeah it can yeah oh yeah you guys want to guess what the spoons are for um eating something at this point now we all have spoons it feels like are going to make us eat something that'd be awesome oh no oh no oh wait i should have seen this coming a mile away okay this wait this is something you use frequently yeah okay i've talked about it every day yeah okay sorry it's not even open explain it yeah i bought a fresh one just for you guys that's nice of you yeah what is it for those of us that are okay so for folks this is kewpie mayo this is by many standards many objective measures as well as subjective measures the best mayonnaise that money can buy in a blind taste testing in the chicago tribune kewpie mayo was rated as the best most delicious mayonnaise by a large wide margin in their most recent mayonnaise low bar low bar um so okay so why do you say it's a low bar well most delicious mayonnaise winner kind of feels like I don't know.
1:20:03There are a lot of mayonnaise out there. What are you trying to say, Parker? Maybe I don't appreciate mayonnaise to the level that these people do. Wait, are we going to eat this straight? Yeah. Yeah, we're going to do mayonnaise straight on the podcast. What, do you want, like a chip? Yeah, I don't know. Okay, I will say Japanese mayo and Japanese barbecue sauce are both elite. This is Japanese mayo? Yes. This is Japanese mayo, just from a build quality perspective. Pass this around. That's true. You say build quality? Yeah. Like bottle build quality? That's not technology. That's just impressive.
1:20:37It's a squeeze bottle, so it's flexible. How is this mayo different from regular mayo? Okay, so a little bit of history. This company was originally founded in 1919. For its first five years, it was a salmon packing company in Japan. They did canned salmon. And then the founder, who had interned in the U.S., was like, man, the U.S. has mayo on lock. and so he went and he created his own take on japanese mayo where they only use the egg yolk so it has this thick nice like custardy kind of texture and then it's mixed with rice rice water vinegar or rice water to give it this kind of like umami kind of like almost asian flavor it's not necessarily overpowering but it just gives it a little bit more of like this sweetness it's fun It's just capital F.
1:21:23It's fun. It is so good. Eat it, David. I will say. All right. I'm going to try some as a non-mayo enjoyer. At first, I was like, I'm going to do this for the pod. Then I held it, and my stomach got a little queasy. I'm still going to do it. No promises, because it's straight mayo, and I already just don't like mayo. I have to say, another cool thing about this is that if you open it regularly, you squirt it out in a tube shape. but if you just open the top, it is star decoration shape. Yeah. Oh. This is just, it's like, it's well built. So what, you can do it on a cake? Why would you need that?
1:21:58Well, for decoration. For fun. You can decorate with a mint. Oh, wait, there is that like Swedish fish cake, isn't there? Swedish fish cake. They did it on bacon one time. That sounds gross. I think I have to take it. Are you a mayo fan? I have to take it, that thing. No. I'll take yours for you if you don't want to take it. No, we all gotta take it. I'm not forcing my boss to eat something he doesn't like. I'm not doing star. I'm not gonna do that much. Just do a dab. I'll put a little bit on this spoon. I believe in the mayo world it's referred to as a dollop. A dollop. I thought that was the sour cream world.
1:22:33That is the sour cream. They're the same thing. There you go. See, just a dollop. Or a dab. Or whatever that is. A gram. I don't know. The last dab. I'd rather do the last dab. How about we all eat it together? yeah you guys are whipped i almost put it on the button not gonna lie that smells pretty good honestly kind of smells like salt and vinegar chips like the things you don't like about mayo is it's because it's like all mass-produced factory stuff you know it's not made with love right assuming that's mass-produced you know in i oh yeah 100 but it's like yeah but it's like but it's got love in it but there's certain ingredients of uh sandwiches for example that are like well it's a condiment basically we're eating a condiment i don't know how to feel about this they're never like standalone if it's on that chip i would feel better all right it's on a spoon i feel like such a wuss being like i don't want to eat mayo off the clock though like one of the most common condiments ever all right yeah three two cheers one
1:23:35it's definitely much better than regular mayonnaise eric wins from what i remember of mayo in the past it is better than mayo i still did not like eating it alone i didn't like eating it alone i also think for the sub enjoyers oil and vinegar is better than mayo and everywhere possible why do you say that you can't have oil vinegar that's too much i don't even need meat the fact that we all just ate warm mayo and no one complained i think speaks volumes to how good that is you didn't get to me yet yeah i look next time i buy mayo i'm never going to i will buy qp mayonnaise because this is it seems great great engineering on the package um just one quick question uh would you say that packaging of it is separate in like an interesting way from other mayo packaging in any way not when you're holding the button like that just curious just curious yeah i before you hit that button i need to explain the logic of how this is techno this is plastic this is just cool plastic uh-huh so it's not different than any other mayo packaging you would say you're not answering my question i'm just curious you're not answering my question i'm not i'm not okay so it's the same all right because i just see it says easy squeeze tube there and i just feel like that might be like a distinguishing feature of well that's innovative but innovative isn't always technology right wasn't that the decision we made earlier yeah This is well built.
1:25:03But if, okay, if you're going to buzz this because it's well built. No, no, no. Everyone else needs to be buzzed. That's totally fair. We have attempted to buzz everyone, by the way. That's kind of a goal. I am going to win on technicalities. Fair. Okay. Tech, tech, tech. On what? Technicalities? Technology? No, the two-way cap is innovative. The squeezy, the squeezy thing is interesting. The star shape. Yeah, it's all, it's well packaged. It's Japanese engineering on an American classic. This is like Sony, but not technology. Why is there a baby? Because it's freaking adorable. No, because the Kewpie brand is based on a line of dolls from the 30s and 40s called Kewpie Dolls.
1:25:43That's interesting. That's like the logo for the company, too. Oh, careful with that. Careful. Oh. All right. It's time for you to get out. All right. Thank you, Eric. Get out of here. Get out of here. At first, that sounds like the Friends song. It's ACDC, bro. Oh. Am I right? I'm Becky Blair! All right, next up is another new face for podcast listeners. It's Rich. Welcome, Rich.
1:26:15That was some late night stuff. Oh, yeah. Join us, yeah? Welcome. There's a theme song. Oh, baby! Okay. Oh, theme song's over. But yes, welcome to the pod, Rich. Hi. Welcome. Okay. Well, I see you have a backpack. Is the item the backpack or is it inside the backpack? It's inside the backpack. Show us what you brought, Rich. Well, my friends, I would like to preface, this is something we all love. Are you sure? Yeah, absolutely. We'll see about that. If you do not love this, you have bad taste. Wow. No pressure. Rich is from L.A. If he pulls out In-N-Out right now. I have bad taste. Can Eric just eat a spoonful of mayonnaise?
1:26:53I would eat cold In-N-Out from a six-hour flight across country before I eat another spoon of mayonnaise. I'm glad you said that. No way. No way. so I did not bring it out next best thing it's an In-N-Out t-shirt with the menu that's only a tenth of the menu that's technology right there can I put this on absolutely but it is only a tenth of the menu that's true I mean there's a secret the menu is pretty small and then there's the rest of the In-N-Out menu which is this stuff that you learn about after you go for the first time that is also like 10 times as much stuff yeah it always goes you're not from california to go to in and out you talk to someone california you're like it wasn't that good and then the person california goes bro it's because you don't know about the thing and this is i'm from california you don't know about the thing that no one told you about that's not hidden down anywhere like you're so stupid you ordered off the menu locals only bro stay off my waves so i would like to know everyone's in and out order okay double double animal style animal fries with chopped chilies on the burger so i recently switched to one double double animal style with chopped chilies on the burger a single cheeseburger with grilled onions and then animal style fries good lord i think mine's the same as ell's but no tomato because i hate tomatoes i get a cheeseburger with grilled onions so do you guys know you can get extra toppings yeah but you know there's like no limit yeah no limit yeah so you can go like extra extra extra didn't they impose like a 10 patty limit no something no i know i know i think you're right okay in high school when i was in band we would stop at in and out on the way to band competitions and that's fire high school kids want to impress each other in the dumbest ways possible and in and out at least at the time it was one dollar per patty that you wanted to add extra so kids would do like 20 by 20s are you saying that's a 20 patty burger yes with 20 slices of cheese yeah oh my and it would just get obnoxious and i think they might have imposed a limit but i'm not sure i mean if you're doing a 20 by 20 that's kind of insane right yeah yeah yeah yeah i agree wait what's your what's your mood right okay so double double extra extra grilled onions extra raw onions oh i do love raw onions and then animal style fries two packets of spread yeah what's the spread oh packets yeah and you can just add them on after oh i didn't know that very nice that is a pro what mood was that for uh that's my regular order usually i will swap out for protein stuff i'm I need a little healthier.
1:29:37Okay. What if you're angry? Four by four. Four by four after a good workout? Yeah. I have gifts for everyone. Oh. What? Are you trying to win us over or something? Absolutely. Okay. Rich wins. I brought stickers for everyone from In-N-Out. If there's any that you like and that is not here, I will bring it for you next time. Wow. These are sick. I recently became, so you want I have a water bottle covered in stickers and I recently ran out of room on the water bottle for stickers okay and I was in Australia and I got a sticker and for the first time I just overlapped a sticker I just put it right on top of two other stickers and that has just opened the door for a ton of new sticker placements on my water bottle so this is this one right here is going on my water bottle for sure all right I sick yeah this is fire I'm bringing I'll get more stickers next time I go back to California.
1:30:33Yeah. I didn't know you could get these. Are they free? In-N-Out Company Store, Baldwin Park, California. Oh, we passed through there once when I was on the way to a band competition. So to be clear, the item you're presenting is the t-shirt. Yeah. But it's more of the idea. It's the vibe. It's the spirit. But the spirit of In-N-Out is the food, the experience, the stickers, the In-N-Out vibes, the secret menu. What do you think allowed them to be so quick, have no delay, not freeze their... Nope. No, we're not. I'm defending Rich. Rich, you're a fellow Californian. We're not making it. I was trying to think of how to talk about California.
1:31:11Yeah, but you didn't know about the spread packets. I'm just kidding. Okay. Rich. Yes. This was fantastic. Yeah, thank you very much. Thank you. The bribe will influence my decision. Oh, yeah. Excellent. Oh, I would like to add, I would like to buy you on and out next time we're in California. Oh, that's too nice. You don't need to do that. This is heavily influencing. Everyone should know that if you noticed in the past few months that the studio channel looks really good, is shot with an artistic touch. Oh, thank you. That's Rich. Me and Eric. You guys are doing an awesome job so far. We're having a good time.
1:31:46It's a lot of fun. Very nice. Cool. All right. Thank you very much, Eric. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming on. Thank you, Rich. Thank you, Rich.
1:31:58Do you want any of these? I might steal this one. Without further ado, I would like to welcome studio production coordinator, new studio producer, amazing soul, Harper. Oh my god. It's a dog bed? Is it a dog bed? How are they going to get that in here? It's those huge bean bag chairs. Huge bean bag chair. I will need to test this to confirm.
1:32:30I hope this does not rip in the corner of this frame is incredible what's going on I was gonna say like why do we need that camera to record but now I'm like no actually that's the perfect camera right now we're doing so well I can't tell if they're halfway through
1:32:50oh my goodness it's expanding you might have to pick it up and lift it over I think they practiced this morning. When was this in... This is half of the office in size. How did you get this? Did you have it in your car? I saw a moment when I was at my desk. Harper was like, John O'Miles, can I borrow you? And I was like, oh, no. No. Oh, hold on. Just watch that camera right there. Okay, but you have to sit in it while you're on the podcast. Oh, yeah. Works really well. Right? Harper Markowski, everybody!
1:33:27Smoothest entrance so far. This frame is great because it really like, like it just becomes. Can we push your mic forward too? You mean I look like I'm incredibly comfortable and you guys are in like boring chairs? Well this frame has a lot of headroom I'll say. Okay, Harper, what did you bring to show us today? What is this? So, sorry about that. So, I brought a love sack, which is basically like a giant bean bag but instead of beans it's like cut up memory foam yeah so is it made by the bean 52s cut up memory memory foam interesting memory i think that's what it is i'll be honest i've never cut it open and looked inside but we bought this instead of a couch for our like gaming area and uh it's the best purchase we've made uh it's like i'm more jealous they have a gaming area i mean like by that i mean you know where we put like gaming area where we like put our xbox but like yeah can you imagine also direct xbox also a playstation um but like yeah no it kind of it can transform into anything it feels like you're sleeping on a cloud and most of i mean anything it can transform into a dinosaur um but like more importantly uh if it's not in the context of this room um you can like run and dive into it and it's Oh, yeah.
1:34:49I mean, I would highly suggest it. I kind of want to try that. So it's kind of hard, even for video listeners, to appreciate the size of this chair. It's really big. I would say that I can't tell how big of a car I would need to bring in it. Yeah, I'm so intrigued by how you got this in. How did you get it here? How did you get this in your car? First of all, I'm just going to blame Ellis for me actually doing this. I said this as a joke, and he was like, but you should do that. it took we have a shop back so we put it into a vacuum sealed bag shop backed it then transported it and then put the cover on holy crap oh my goodness that's impressive i appreciate the dedication wait that is a shop a shop it was like a vacuum vacuum sealer i also brought the shop back with me in my car so i can also bring this home right right that's a good See, I would have maybe had the foresight to, you know, put it in that, and I never would have brought it here to get it back home.
1:35:46Yeah, my husband was like, what are the odds that you actually bring this home tonight? And I was like, hi, I think. Or maybe it becomes a part of the office. Or I get to convince you guys that we need this in the office. I would like to dive into it. It may be stuck in this room. Um, sure. I would like to at least sit in it in this segment, if I'm being honest. I'll let you guys sit in it. In order to, okay. Can we sit in together? I would like to also... It looks like there's room. It is made to be at least for two adults. Okay. Oh, my God. I will mention that I also have one of these. No, no, it's okay.
1:36:22Just one of these. And it is very comfortable. You have one of these? I do have one of these. You do? Wait, really? Yes. How have we never discussed that we both have love sacks? So mine's not nearly as big. But what I've noticed about it is if you sit in it in the same way over and over again, the memory foam kind of like piles into the corners of it and it becomes like the shape of the person who sits there all the time so it when i sit down it's like it doesn't move it just like feels like a chair but if i ever want to like restructure it i have to like shake it out and like move it around yeah like roll it over yeah and then it's like whatever you want yeah it like re it remakes itself into a giant pillowy like cloud yeah i have a dog i do not have a dog no It smells really good.
1:37:03We did just wash this because we just moved. But yeah, this is the love sack. When we get it out into the office area, you guys can take a running jump at it and enjoy that. I will do that. I'll be honest. My two-year-old nephew also loves doing that. I think that might be a universal human experience. Maybe even dogs, too. I feel like anyone would enjoy running and jumping into this. Right? I mean, it's like if you ever wanted to jump into a pillow or jump into a cloud, this is what I assume is the closest experience to that. the next waveform studio will just be a bunch of those with microphones hanging from the ceiling just all hanging out you said earlier it could turn into anything i i did mean i can let me let me like add an addendum to that sure i more so meant like you could shape it around yourself in any way so that if you wanted to take a nap in it great if you wanted to sit in it more like a chair you can if you wanted to sit in it in like a group sort of like a modular type of sounds I would say innovative, but I don't know about that.
1:38:04I think more so just like, it's like clay. Is clay innovative? Clay is one of the most ancient materials. That's a great deflection. Yeah, I can see that. Okay. It's like clay, yeah. Moldable. Moldable, exactly. I don't think innovative. I think moldable. Moldable. Okay. Funny, because Love Sack does make a couch with a speaker in it, I'm pretty sure. My husband keeps on trying to convince me to buy that, and I'm putting the kibosh on there. Love Sack is a brand? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Kleenex? Yeah, Love Sack is like a, yeah, it has like the subwoofer in one of the legs of the sofa or whatever.
1:38:34Yeah. They got popular with this, but now they make couches that are fairly popular and supermodule and have speakers in them. I found out also today that Kewpie is a brand. I thought it was just the style of mayo. Oh, I heard you guys ate mayo. Yeah, it wasn't the best experience. Straight mayo, yeah. That one's not getting my vote. If you're a dish. But I did do it. Speaking of which, guys, I think it is time Are you sure you guys don't want to just leave this in here so you can enjoy it while I leave? I mean, you know, we might need some extra testing. Yeah, I'm not Harper. As someone who's now gotten that in and out of here twice today, we're gonna leave it in here.
1:39:10Great. I love how I started this segment out of breath because of that, too. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you, Harper. Be careful. Thanks, Harper. Thank you. Bye. All right, friends. Time to be mean. Time. Marquez is immediately going into the... Go on. You don't have to wait for me. Oh, I thought you said, come on, like you wanted us to join you. No, no, no. Come on. I'm just enjoying it. The water's warm. Okay, so I think to wrap this episode up, the four of us should vote. Or should we collaborate on who we think is the collective winner? Yeah, we should. Or should we all four write it down on a whiteboard?
1:39:52So what are we voting on about it? I think the vote should be the ratio of like the most impressive of like, I might want to use that thing slash it gets points deducted for every step closer to being technological that it is. I think that's the easiest way. I guess like I see your point is you brought in something extremely niche. So did Tim. Yeah. Those are very niche products. Even like they are very, you know, like John is cool, but I don't play frisbee. Yeah, that's true. But I don't think that it should be based around whether we would use it. I think it should be how useful is it? Live in the moment.
1:40:33Even though it has no technology. Live in the headspace of who might use it. I would like to give my vote for best bring. I'm not voting for the piano. Well, I think I'm going to have to go with Brandon. You know, honorable mention to Eric. That was the highlight of my morning so far. quick little but no I disabled your button we're done with that it's Ellis' turn baby in fact I do this to you wow power trip welcome to my kingdom yeah I like Brandon I really liked how can I get a refresher notebook yeah the whole ten we had a bunch let me pull out my list of my notes here Yeah, I would like a two-word name for each of them.
1:41:28I remember Miles had pre-worked. Two words. Ready? Yeah, yeah. Tim, foot thing. Yep. Vin, lacrosse stick. Mm-hmm. Brandon, dot book. Definitely. Mariah, foot thing, for sure. Jono, stick stick. Sticky, sticky, long. Sticky, sticky, sticky. Long sticks. Orange ball. I think basketball's one word. Miles, not drugs. Go juice. Go juice. Eric, Kupi Mayo, Rich, Best Burger, Harper, Lovezak. Wow. Okay, I would say, if Rich literally pulled out a Double Double, especially since two days ago we told people about this, and we're in New Jersey, he'd be instant winner. Yeah, for sure. But I think the t-shirt aspect of it, while the bribes helped...
1:42:15Yeah. The spirit was... I did like the spirit of, like, the thing that makes me happy that's not tech is In-N-Out. I really get that. In-N-Out would have been an instant win. The spirit of In-N-Out is still strong enough to almost be at the top of my list, but I don't think I can give that the win. My vote is to Jono's stick stick, sticky stick, because it is something that he uses very frequently that is not something that everyone has. So it's useful and it's not technology and he uses it a lot. Yeah, I would say he did have the most concretely useful tech list thing with the exception of maybe Andrews Lock in Hand.
1:42:51Well, yeah, I don't think I will say. I do think David's camera not only was like the most interesting thing, even as someone who doesn't use cameras, but. I was expecting to buzz it a bunch of times and that never got to that point. So I was impressed by that aspect of it, whether that means it's the winner or not. I think it was really cool and I was so ready to buzz the hell out of you. but you picked the perfect camera to do it. The hierarchy in my head I'm considering is I'm trying to guess how often each person uses the thing that they presented. And I think the top of the list, aside from the weights, is possibly Miles and possibly Andrew's pan and possibly Harper's lovesack.
1:43:43How often they use it. Yeah. It's kind of hard not to vote for the lovesack. It was super comfortable. Yeah. so that's that's where my head is at and obviously not being tech i think those you know don't you use those weights a lot my most likely to buy would be the weights or the love sack i think i am yeah probably going to eventually buy those weights it sounds like rich and harper are the two that we all mentioned as like i don't know you don't know i think you decide on john is my my personal winner i think johnno i could i would feel comfortable giving it to Jono. It's useful. It's definitively not tech.
1:44:22Although there's 3D printed bits. Because here's my thing. Here's my thing. As much as I would love to win and whatever. My camera is the thing that I do. Right? Jono, the thing that he does is the frisbee but this is an accessory that he uses a lot and isn't even technological. I think that there is something to that where it's like it's an optional accessory that is very interesting and cool. and it's not the main thing. Because, you know, Vin brought in the lacrosse stick. That's the thing. Tim brought in the climbing shoes. It's not really. It's kind of part of it. No, I see what you mean.
1:44:58It's like you're saying a lot of people brought in sports things, but they basically just brought in the sport. Yeah, basketball. You know what? Jano brought in an accessory, and generally accessories to sports is where we start getting into the tech part, and he brought in a non-tech version. I like that explanation. I'm going with Brandon. else picks brandon's dotted notebooks i pick jano jano's long stick sticky stick long sticky stick with carbon fiber i'm gonna go the beanbag harper wow i think i would buy that you think i'd pick the disc golf thing how you're gonna pick my camera i'm sorry i'm also picking the beanbag killer all right two for the beanbag and killer there it is well thank you all for sticking around for this bonus episode of the techless waveform podcast it's been an absolute pleasure to introduce all of our friends to you guys it is i want to throw one special shout out here is ellis put in an absurd amount of work in an extremely short amount of time to get this done for your for everyone here um poor planning on our part super busy month we decided we thought of this on monday pretty much uh i pitched it else was like this is awesome and did a ton of work extra camera angles and everything to get this done and adam got sick so he really had to do all of the but yeah but before adam got sick he also put a lot of work for this so i just and shout out to everyone for bringing in their items yeah no one forgot brought in their items true nobody forgot well hey thanks for watching thanks for listening thanks for voting in the comments below we'll definitely for sure tally them up with ai and figure out who won uh other than that we'll catch you guys in the next regularly scheduled programming.
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