Our Favorite YouTube Videos Ever!

25 Apr 2025 · 1 h 22 min

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Episode Title

Our Favorite YouTube Videos Ever!

Episode Description In honor of the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video upload, Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel discuss their favorite YouTube videos. The episode dives into the latest tech news, including significant antitrust updates regarding Google, pre-orders for the Nintendo Switch 2, and hefty fines imposed on Apple and Meta. The hosts also select the "Crown" and "Clown" of the month before wrapping up with trivia.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Celebrating 20 Years of YouTube
  2. The hosts share their all-time favorite YouTube videos.
  3. Reference to the first YouTube video uploaded: *"Me at the Zoo"*.
  4. Reflection on the evolution of YouTube over the past two decades.
  1. Tech News Updates
  2. Google's Antitrust Case:
  3. Discussion about ongoing antitrust lawsuits against Google.
  4. Mention of proposals to prevent Google from securing exclusive search engine deals.
  5. Google's agreement to some terms while pushing back on others.
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Pre-orders:
  • Anticipation surrounding the Nintendo Switch 2 and its pricing.
  • Pre-orders expected to be highly competitive, with a forecast of limited stock.
  • Fines for Apple and Meta:
  • Apple fined $570 million for violating EU regulations.
  • Meta fined for similar practices related to user data and ad placements.
  1. Crown and Clown of the Month
  2. Crown:
  3. Nintendo Switch 2 is celebrated for its anticipated advancements and features.
  4. Clown:
  5. Blue Origin's PR efforts were criticized, along with issues related to iMessage and Apple's failure to manage user data effectively.
  1. Trivia Segment
  2. Engaging trivia questions related to YouTube and tech history.
  3. Fun facts shared about the number of videos uploaded and user engagement statistics on YouTube.

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Key Takeaways

  • The anniversary of YouTube prompts reflection on how it has transformed content consumption.
  • Significant updates in the tech industry highlight the increasing focus on antitrust issues and user privacy.
  • The excitement for the Nintendo Switch 2 indicates a strong market demand for innovative gaming experiences.
  • The hosts encourage listener engagement through trivia, making the podcast interactive.

Links and Resources

  • [20 years of YouTube Blog](https://example.com)
  • [Digital Foundry - Nintendo Switch 2 article](https://example.com)
  • [Verge - Apple's and Meta's DMA Fines](https://example.com)

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1:23What is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm Nintendo Switch 2. And we're going to keep this date going. I don't really know how long we're going to keep doing this. We might as well. It's early in the SEO, so that might work. Thanks, Transcript. No, in today's episode, we got some updates. Actually, it's a lot of updates to things. Blue Sky, Apple Intelligence, what else? Switch 2 pre-orders are on the list. Multiple antitrust lawsuits, because those are going to keep getting updated. So the tech move...

1:53So the tech world... So tech moves fast, and lots of updates happen. and so we're going to keep covering them. It's great. Yeah. Hey, but yeah, if that sounds interesting to you, make sure you get subscribed to the Waveform Podcast here on YouTube because it turns out a lot of people see these in their homepage and they do watch them and enjoy them, but then they don't subscribe and it would be cool if you did. But if you don't like us, don't subscribe. That's very important. Because it'll be really annoying if we pop up making a Nintendo Switch 2 joke in your feed every week and you don't like us.

2:26Yeah. No, it's okay. And we make a lot of inside jokes. We do make a lot of. You got to subscribe to figure out what the inside jokes are. It's true. One day we should do like just a big episode where we just explain all the inside jokes and that's it. I bet we could. Just reference that episode if you want to know what we're talking about. As a footnote every time we make the joke. But we have two small things first. The first one is within like a couple of hours of last episode, somebody on our subreddit made the crank prototype that you have to wind in to watch youtube videos yeah which was crazy yeah pretty insane i didn't see it working but i i'm gonna take their word for it they just actually they only posted pictures right i'm going to throw it out there if you could post a video that would be awesome i would like to see that but it is not lost on us that we have an audience big enough that literally within 12 hours someone like made a stupid joke that we made in a game so awesome that's like so crazy to see and really do not bring any of the others to life please force marquez to people up on the street and watch that horrible uh listen to that horrible song on spotify you don't need it there was a comment that was just like how dare you for playing that that long i was like i can't think i can't think um but the second thing yeah is actually a question that i have for you guys listening and watching especially here on youtube So a little backstory for the last couple of almost actually probably more than a year last couple months.

3:55We've been working on both doing transcripts for every MKBHD video and more recently dubs in multiple languages for MKBHD videos in an attempt to make them more accessible to people in different regions who don't speak English. You may know a lot of people who watch our videos mostly live in English-speaking regions and watch videos in English. But if you live in a Spanish-speaking country, you might not watch these videos unless you have captions or maybe a dub in Spanish. And so it kind of unlocks availability of these videos. So we've been experimenting with it and trying a bunch of different things.

4:27We found something that works pretty well for captions. The dubs are interesting because we've experimented both with humans who speak both languages, both English and, say, Spanish. doing a direct translation, but they don't really sound like me. They also take a long time. They also take much longer and obviously are pretty pricey. But then there's also AI dubs, which are a machine that sounds like me, but isn't necessarily a perfect representation. You know how Google translates a lot sometimes, but it actually does a voice dub of something that sounds like me in that other language, which is really interesting.

5:05It's faster, it's cheaper, but it's not as accurate. We've been playing with this a lot in different videos, different timing, different sorts of things. And the question that I have for you guys is specifically in our number two most popular country, which, pop quiz, is India. A lot of people in India speak multiple languages or do speak English or speak Hindi or sometimes switch back and forth between the two. And some of them watch videos in English or Hindi. I don't know if you've watched tech YouTube in India. Sometimes they switch back and forth as well. and the latest video, which was a Light Phone 3 review, we uploaded it at the same time with dubs in my voice in Spanish and Hindi.

5:46I thought you learned Hindi. No, yeah, I didn't learn Hindi. This was actually a dub. And interestingly, Spanish, mostly positive feedback, people watching the videos in Spanish-speaking regions. What happens on YouTube is they detect that you're in a Spanish-speaking region and automatically play the video with the Spanish language. And a lot of people I saw on Twitter were very excited, like, oh, wow, I can watch the video basically in English on this channel, or in Spanish on this channel. And I saw mixed feedback from India because a lot of people in India, like I said, watch videos in English.

6:14And so when they opened the new video, it defaulted to the audio track of the Hindi dub when they actually are pretty used to watching videos in English. And so some people were saying, oh, wow, this is Hindi. I like this better. I'll watch this. A lot of people were like, no, I don't like this. I'd rather watch in English like I usually do. And so I had a small sample size. this is why I'm opening it up to the Waveform commenting audience. What, if you live in India and watch YouTube videos, what do you prefer? Do you prefer defaulting to English or defaulting to Hindi? You can dive into the settings and change it on a per video basis, but I'm curious what your default is and what you watch on YouTube.

6:52I can see that's a, I think the biggest issue we have here is that it defaults based on region because we've already shown that India is our number two, like most watched country. So they clearly are enjoying it in English. we wanted to do hindi so it might branch out to some more people um but it defaulting if you were already a subscriber and used to it yeah that's probably annoying to now check it off every time i think that's why it hit so like in a lot of countries that are not on our top countries list they're not on the list because most people don't watch videos in english in those places so if you just pick a random country that doesn't speak english and then give them a dub that might boost the amount of people who enjoy the videos in that country but in like u.s or a bunch of places here that speak English, they don't want to dub in a language they're not used to.

7:36So that's kind of why it feels like we're seeing that level of feedback. Yeah. Our other question is the difference between a human-created dub or an AI dub. It's not even really the price that's our issue. It's that I think a human one usually takes about five days, four to five days, where we can get an AI one in less than 24 hours and sometimes upload at the same time. So we're not sure if like we've been testing both of where does it, is it a good benefit for us? Because is five days after the release kind of too late? Most of the time. Yeah, it's a great point because most, if you look at the curve of an upload, it's like this.

8:12And usually after five days, it's there. And everyone's watched it. Who's going to watch it? Like tech videos have a really short shelf life. A lot of times, evergreen videos, maybe the people watch it longer down the road. That's cool. but yeah i i do think we got some feedback about the dub the ai dub not being as accurate oh for sure which was our and i can't fact check that because i don't speak the other languages right so tv it's definitely a pickle we're in but would love to hear some feedback on a larger audience than just twitter i guess um so that's why we're posing it to you all but next thing speaking of youtube audiences ha i got that one good uh we're recording this on wednesday which is the day of the anniversary of the 20th year since the first upload to YouTube.

8:56I could have phrased it better. That was the longest way to phrase that. 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video. Rewind. This is the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube upload. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Me at the Zoo by Jod. Yeah, 2005. Yeah, the thing about those elephants is they have really long snouts. Do you remember the script for this video? Yeah, I watched it this morning. Oh, is that what he said? It's also like 20 seconds long. Could have been trivia. That could have been. It's chaptered off now too. What? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, really? I noticed that this morning. I was like, these chapters are flying by because it's 19 seconds.

9:31You look, intro. That's funny. Wait, intro? Chaptered, but they're just all called intro. I'm very. Intro, the cool thing, end. That's pretty funny. Do they just like test half their features on this video? No, I think he logs back in. Oh, he logs back in. Yeah, he's notoriously like changed the description of the video multiple times and like pinned comments because he was a founder of youtube so he adds something there it's like the founder of youtube just said something as he changed the description of the video did you see that on the video there's a little birthday cake yeah yeah just for today it might be gone by the time you listen to this podcast but i thought that's that was pretty cool that video can almost drink just one more year that's in the u.s they can drink basically anywhere you can already enlist in the army that i can too i have some interesting uh numbers i'd like to share with you guys 47 that are pretty crazy.

10:19So number one, that's a pretty crazy number. Number one is this was the first video uploaded to YouTube. It was 2005. Since then, over 20 trillion videos have been uploaded to YouTube. Hey, Adam from the future here. So I'm editing this episode and it turns out that YouTube actually updated their blog to say 20 billion YouTube videos, not 20 trillion YouTube videos as we say here okay back to the episode if i had a nickel you'd be pretty wealthy my friend i don't know if you understand what you could pay off the u.s national debt like the amount of storage space yeah the amount of content yeah 20 not 1 trillion yeah 20 trillion i would like to know how much storage youtube is currently 20 trillion would you 20 trillion yes would you like to know that because it would probably blow your mind that's why i would like to know the other the crazy thing is 20 years 20 trillion so obviously we've gotten like a lot of videos per year yeah there was exponential growth though on youtube fittingly on their 20th birthday they found that uh there are roughly 20 million new videos uploaded every day 20 million new videos careful another gbt is notoriously not great at math wait this is this is really easy though sorry it'd be one trillion dollars it was 20 trillion nickels because if you had a nickel i had to use chat because a nickel is a 20th of a that is correct yeah you'd have one trillion dollars but yeah 20 20 million videos uploaded every day as we can't um and youtube users upload or sorry youtube users average over a hundred million comments every single day a hundred million a hundred million comments and i'm sure there's a graph somewhere of like 99 9 % of the videos have zero comments and 1 % of the videos have all the comments.

12:11Thanks to the waveform listeners for that. That's crazy. 47 of those are useful comments. That's where that number came from. So you said 20 million a day? 20 million videos get uploaded a day. How many comments per day? And 100 million comments are posted on YouTube every day. And 999 million of those were waveform comments. You mean 99 million? Because there's 100 million total. we just we broke the scale i'm sorry math is hard um the last thing is they discovered that creators you know you can heart a video you can like a video you can pin a sorry a comment you can heart a comment creators hearted 10 million comments every single day wow there's a lot that's a lot of heart engagement going on you know what's an interesting thing about youtube the like feature i don't like that the like feature automatically adds it to a like videos playlist um same yeah because sometimes i'm just like i'm supporting my friend like i was looking through my liked videos on youtube today and uh mostly i just like videos that my friends upload just to give them a boost but i don't actually like the videos that i like which is actually stupid of me do you have playlists did you make have you made your own playlists no that's what I do.

13:27My liked playlist is just me trying to like support people that I like. And then I make the disc golf workout, whatever documentary playlist, and then just save them to those instead. Interesting. But if you use YouTube music, I believe. No one does that. Wow. Well, if you like something like a song, it also still saves on your liked playlist or even shorts. I've liked shorts and it saves in my liked videos. That's why that's a total throwaway playlist in my eyes. And it gives you an Amazon ad to buy them. What? The shorts. Oh, my God. Backwards pockets. Where would we be without this? Dude, I was running with the...

14:06Did I show you them? That might have been the deepest inside joke. I'm sorry. I would like to see them later. I will bring them in next week. Okay. Yeah, they're backwards. I have a bizarro backwards twist. I want to do trivia. Okay. It's not for your trivia. it's for i have trivia for you guys okay just curious if you know the answers okay obviously i know the youtube trivia but uh if you haven't already read the blog post we'll see what you guys think okay you remember when um the first ever youtube video hit a billion views yeah you remember which one that is yeah yeah which one is that it was gangam style that's what i thought it was correct okay there are now how many videos in the billion view club one billion on youtube closest delta closest delta 20 no I'm going with 100 20 100 1000 100 is the closest there are 300 music videos 300 music videos they're all music videos I think there's a few more random like kids videos that are also in the building but 300 music videos and the fastest which took 88 days was which one?

15:17To a billion? Fastest to a billion. It was that Justin Bieber. Despacito? It's not kids videos? No, it's not Despacito. It's not Gangnam Style. It's not Baby Shark. It's not Baby Shark. Baby by Justin Bieber, right? It's not Baby. Baby was the first to a million dislikes or something else. It was one of the most disliked videos ever. Until 2019. Joke's on you guys, though. It's still a view. I'll give you the countdown of the four, three, and two. Okay. Okay. Four is Rosé by Bruno Mars, 105 days. I don't even know that song. Oh, that song is a banger. Three is Mi Gente by Willie William and J Balvin, 103 days.

15:57That's a good one. Then there's a tie at two. Ed Sheeran, Shape of You, and Despacito tied at 97 days. What? And this one beat them all in just 88 days, getting a billion views. Was it recent? I feel like in the past year, maybe? No, it's not in the last year. Is it old? You all know the song. Reviewing every iPhone. So it's a song. Yeah, it's a music video. It's a song. Happy birthday. Can you give us the genre? It's pop. I will tell you. Is it pop with a letter in front of it? No. It's not K-pop. K-pop! My last hint is that the artist name kind of sounds like a tech company. Bruno Mars. Jay-Z.

16:42I'm just assuming Pitbull's part of it somehow. Pitbull. He's probably a solo video. Man, this is a lot. Solo artist. She played the first note? She is the only one in the video. Ariana Grande? No. Can you play the first note? Give it away. The first note? 100%. I mean, we're not getting it. It seems like we're not getting it anymore. I want to hear just the first note. This is just the first note. We'll give it away right now. This isn't like Friday, is it? No. This is Adele. oh hello oh yeah that's the fastest to a billion views yeah really you know how i know that you didn't sorry you did not know that you know how i know that that is true after hearing that it is true yeah i can verify um my economics professor played it played the music video for us as we walked in and he said this song is a banger guys i just had to let you know this wow that's my the only teacher who has ever played a music video for me in class.

17:4788 days. And now it has 3 billion views. And you know what? There were like 100 of us in that class, so it actually has 3 billion 100 views. But it only got one view from the economics professor. Nice. And he probably watched it a few times. Definitely. Yeah, for sure. Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, those are random trivia from Marquez of the day. Are we down to keep going semi off the rails here? Because I have a question. We're already so far gone. We might as well. because it's the 20th year of the first upload, I wanted everyone here to pick their favorite video on YouTube and say it out loud here.

18:23It can be, you know, funny, educational, anything, just one you really enjoy for whatever reason. Do you want to go first? Yeah. Okay. So this is really, really hard, obviously. It is super hard. But one that really sticks out in my head pretty, pretty strongly is the Vsauce video that's called Do Chairs Exist? I feel like we've vaguely talked about this before. I think I've mentioned this video before. I really like this video. I think it goes, I think it's like 40 % too long. But... Not right for Vsauce. Yeah. 1.5x speed fixes that. Well, I actually recently hit 3. Let's go. 3x? Yeah. New PR.

19:05I can only do it on my phone, but I've been doing everything at 3 recently. Except for Hank videos. Diabolical dude. Because he already talks fast. fast yeah yeah can you watch philip defranco videos i have not watched one since like 2015 yeah you wouldn't survive philip 3x would just be like like a fire hose yeah i will say so in the spirit of this youtube thing i think that's one of my favorite videos my most influential channel for me was a channel called nerd writer one which was like the original video essay guy on youtube before they became the OG before the category became popular very nice you looked pretty excited this morning when you're thinking about I thought of two one of them to me is the the goofy murder trial but that's just a video that I laugh every time I watch it I had never seen it until I started working I think I've watched at least ten times what about the Evanescence goofy cover i've watched those but i'll recommend another one that i think most people haven't seen which is about 10 years ago and i shared this on twitter when it went up there's a video that got recommended to me called nobody tells us to beginners and it is a purely motion graphics video um which is basically just walking through an ira glass quote yeah but it is about how when you're starting up as a creator of any kind, there's always a gap between your skill level and your taste and what you believe is good.

20:36And the more you work and close that gap, the better your taste gets. And you're always chasing that. And nobody tells that to beginners. So you just, as a beginner, assume you will never reach the level of your taste. But if you zoom out enough, you actually have passed your previous best. Anyway, it's a minute and a half long. It's very inspiring. We'll link it below. I rewatch it probably at least once a year it's a banger that quote is great Ira Glass did an interview recently on that podcast that started from the ashes of Reply All Hyperfixed? no the other one he's done a couple he did a podcast called is it okay to just work all the time and it's basically just an interview with Ira Glass, but it is a very inspiring, very interesting interview.

21:30I think you should listen to it. I'm on down there right now for my flight. Do it. What's it called? It's called Is It Okay to Just Work All the Time? And the podcast is called Search Engine. This Reddit posted about it. It just says, a podcaster interviewing another podcaster about making a podcast?

21:49It's crazy how Reply All ended and birthed two awesome podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a neutron star. Yeah. He has a really good... Ira Glass has a... Sorry. Nerd. Ira Glass has a really good quote in that where he's like, he's like, why would I put out anything unless it was incredible? There's enough mid-s*** on the internet already. Damn. Hell yeah, brother. Let's go. What a bar. Anyway. Andrew, what's yours? I'm kind of between two, but I'll only say one to not make this go on too long. there's this 25 minute documentary called remain seated please and it's just a story about these two friends who loved this ride at epcot disney so much called horizon which was like this old ride that showed you like what the future looked like and then they started finding ways to like get out of the car and walk around the back of like the sets and like on the sets and they just videotaped it with like an old vhs and then they uploaded it like way later um and it's just like really fascinating about them just like being these like full-grown adults just like walking around this set of this like futuristic ride and they had to like duck behind so when the cars came by and like people were actually watching it um they spent like years doing it and oh wow just It's this 25-minute documentary where you learn almost nothing but keeps you entertained the entire time, so you don't need to be super paying attention.

23:19You can watch that 3X. It'd be like seven minutes long then. But yeah, I think it's one of my favorite videos on YouTube. That's a good one. I'm going to play Ellis' next because he's out sick today, but he did send in a video. What is up, pod people? As you know, I'm sick, but couldn't miss out on this opportunity to drop my favorite YouTube videos out there. A lot of my favorite videos are these really long sort of video essay things that require a lot of context to explain like the Defunctland Disney Channel theme video or the John Boyce Dave Steve video. That's a good one. John Boyce videos are incredible.

23:59My favorite YouTube video that I feel like needs no context is it's called Nightclub for Deer. I do like that. I hope you enjoy it. You're good. You're good. Yeah, come on. All the deer. Come on through. All the deer. All the deer at one time. Come on, all the deer. More deer. Give me more. More deer. Come on, more. Give me some more. Even more deer. Come on. Come on. Wait a minute. are deer just funny because two of the videos i thought of for this was the one where they're recording deer out her window and her husband sneezes and she's like thanks ron he's like i'm not allowed to sneeze and then there's the other one where the guys the guy's dog chases all the deer fenton yeah the fenton video have you ever seen it fenton no i'm gonna need all of these links.

24:54I don't know what they're talking about. No. Just in the background.

25:09Where's his dog?

25:15That's a lot of deer. Dude, that dog saw an opportunity and he took it, dude. He's hurting them. he was like this is what i was born to do man somebody gotta do it he's literally hoarding them like sheep i think this has to be i i changed my answer jesus christ oh thanks ron those are quality shout out to youtube the purest social media do you have another one i'm crying that was so funny Yeah, I think mine is probably Do you guys know Tiny Desk? NPR Tiny Desk? Yeah My favorite one is the Mac Miller one Because Mac Miller did a Tiny Desk before passing And he played a couple of my favorite songs And it's just a beautiful performance overall So a lot of times I'll just play that in the background While I'm cleaning the house or doing things And great performance, highly recommend it He's got Thundercat on bass It's pretty epic But yeah, that one's mine How far into the pot are we already?

26:22Because we haven't touched a single news story. We're celebrating YouTube. Yeah. We are like 30-ish minutes in. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. Almost all of these are updates, so we can like - We can speed run them after the break. How about that? Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah. It's a long break, but yeah, let's do it. Yeah, after what break? All right. We got to take a quick break. But before we do that - Is the break already? We do have more trivia. Trivia. Dude. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Yeah. Okay. So, Ellis is out sick again, but I have an Ellis-style question because of it oh no these are all real google services that i grabbed from the google graveyard oh no which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests a grasshopper b streams c poly or d shoelace man they'd just be taking whatever whatever word they want Tebow Tubu Scubo it was 11 months old when they discontinued didn't even make it wow it's definitely not poly I know that at least let it get to the end of the year we'll think about that and answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right back

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30:04All right, welcome back. We got a couple more updates to speed run through, as we mentioned. First update, which is just kind of a random but funny headline, which is Apple was forced to drop the available now. Not quite forced. Recommended. Strongly recommended to and smartly complied. The National Advertising Division recommended that Apple remove the available now claim from the Apple intelligence website. I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's super fair. It's half available now, but also most. It's a bunch of different things. Whatever. Apple defines Apple intelligence however they want.

30:39Some of it is available now. Some of it is not. And so they were recommended to modify or discontinue the claim. They said they disagreed, but they... But they went. The only part of Apple intelligence that I consider truly available now is Genmoji. And the writing modification thing just crashes my phone every time I even open it. So I just really, you know, it's just bad for everybody. Image playground? I forgot that would exist. the yeah that's about taking up storage on my phone i would like to forget about it yeah um that's all just kind of just one more thing right before dub dub world will probably see apple intelligence completely it's been over 10 months since they announced apple intelligence and like all the siri updates and stuff oh yeah they also shuffled the leadership that's handling apple intelligence very recently because they're just like oh god it's like they brought in a bunch of the vision pro team right i think that's what german said yeah because regardless of your stance on the vision pro at least it's a product that is out it does exist it does exist it is available now it is available now so yeah shout out to available that's why they brought it in um but speaking of here we go things on the internet nice is it what you could do better apple intelligence i could do better uh surprise fediverse corner you didn't expect that

32:07yeah that's what the fediverse updates david yeah okay so blue sky has added verified check marks um wait have they actually rolled it out yeah i thought it was like pop up it's rolling out yeah i thought it was only for certain like organizations well that's still working in I guess, yeah. So they are, okay. If you remember how verified badges used to work on Twitter before verified badges across the internet just became pay for play. It used to be on Twitter that you could apply for verification. People at Twitter would decide, is it important that your account is verified so that people know that you are the real person that is posting from this account and someone is not just impersonating you?

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32:48which when it changed to pay for play was very funny because many brands got impersonated by people and caused uh markets to dip and that was really funny um it was it was quite it was i'm not disagreeing uh so now blue sky after a long period of time has started rolling out their own form of verification which looks practically exactly the same um they did say that they had gone through many many iterations of different things like different colors and different shapes but they landed on the blue check mark because it matches their brand identity and they said they tested things like green but that it looked horrible and uh did not really relate to the blue sky brand like at all so for a little back backstory here blue sky wanted the actual form of verification that was going to work on blue sky to just be domain name verification if you don't know on blue sky there's a thing where if you own your own website you can basically go into the dns settings of your website and say blue sky please use my website as my handle which is the verifying portion of it so then when people see your handle they can see davidwell.com and convict.com and they know that you are the person that is posting because you own the website right clearly that's not super scalable for you know everybody on the internet because not a super high percentage of people even have their own website um also no one has their own website well technically you're leasing it from the iana or whatever but well yeah but i just mean like we're not the normal people that would have our own yeah very few people have their own website my mom does not have a right i think it's also in general just scrolling through the app harder to tell because like display name still is bigger and bolder and easier to see something near there versus the handle part of it right is more obvious right the handle is kind of there so they decided okay we're officially going to roll this out now the way that they are doing it is number one blue sky themselves which is blue sky the company which is not same as the same as blue sky the public benefit company which makes the at protocol because blue sky the company makes blue sky the app i know it's confusing they are basically verifying important people that they deem important so that they can make sure that they don't get uh spoofed right i haven't been hit it up yet so yeah yeah i was just looking at my uh following page the onion has a verified check right now the verge has a verified check on my page right now yeah uh there's a journalist i follow a tech reporter for new york times she has a check yeah i do not have a check i don't think i've been impersonated yet are you mkbhd uh yeah yeah can you prove it no yeah Well, so there's a couple of ways that they're going about this.

35:40One, Blue Sky, the company is just verifying people, but they're also rolling out something called trusted verifiers. And the idea of this is like, okay, if you're the New York Times, and you have a lot of reporters, and generally, when they start verifying people, this is the same thing they did on Twitter, they start with journalists and politicians. because those are the two people that the two types of people that spread news the most the fastest they uh twitter was also very dominated by journalists and politicians uh before it even got big so what this does is they basically give an organization like the new york times the ability to verify people on their team so they say okay we verify the new york times the new york times verifies their journalists that sort of allows uh them to verify people much quicker and so that's what they're doing right now um they surprisingly got a lot of pushback on this a lot of people on on blizzcat were not too happy about this uh many people said it creates a caste system of popularity of lords and peasants of lords and peasants which is what elon said he had to get rid of when he made it pay for play why can't we all just figure out the big problem on all social media is lords and peasants yeah how will we solve it yeah so okay i i talked to blue sky a little bit last night about this because i was like interested in how this worked technically the verification system is on protocol it is on the at protocol so that means that if you start up another blue sky like application that uses the at protocol you can choose whether or not you want to show the verification, you know, on your app or not.

37:20Cool. So part of the differentiating factor of an app that uses the AT protocol could be that they don't want to show verified badges. If people really are that against it, they can just use something else. It is cool that it's like built into the protocol. Yeah. It was interesting. Like Twitter used to have, they haven't said whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach. I don't think they do. I would hope so. One of the main complaints I'm seeing here is just there is like, please don't only put like verified stuff at the top of replies yeah that because then then it feels like really only catered for sure like twitter i got really lucky in 2013 because someone randomly impersonated me and i put in like a a complaint that was like this person's impersonating me and then twitter verified me and in like 2013 that was like a big deal so everything i ever posted had like much bigger reach because that was the case when you were verified on twitter way back then uh but that's not the case here i don't think so i don't know i don't really see it as that big of a deal um but people don't want there to be a cast system i guess yeah i think it makes sense on any social network where people are spreading information slash news and representing themselves to have some sort of verification system yeah i i think a lot of people are literally reacting to the fact that it looks so much like the twitter one that they hate.

38:43It looks exactly like it. Which is a blue check mark. Whatever, I get it. But yeah, I think it's important to have this system and the fact that it's built into the protocol is a good thing. So yeah, I think it's a win. I feel like the blue check mark has just outgrown Twitter. Like now it's also on Meta. It's like everywhere. The hashtag started on Twitter, but now it's everywhere. And the problem is that it doesn't mean anything anymore because even Meta, it's just you pay for it. That's it. On Twitter and Meta, you pay for it. YouTube has it also. But you don't pay for that. No, you don't pay for that.

39:12I'm still confused with the music badges, though. I feel like I see people with music badges so much more in comments lately. I see that a lot, too. And I don't know what that means. I think it just means you're like a verified artist on YouTube. Yeah. That uploads to YouTube music. Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah. I think it's fine. I think it's fine. I think it's... Yeah, don't make it pay to win. Yeah. The one thing right now is like you can't request to be verified, and they're just kind of going through the people that they think are worth verifying. So I think it's pretty much, at least in this initial wave, just going to be politicians and journalists because they're verifying all the publications and the publications verify their journalists.

39:52Hank Green's verified. Yeah. Yeah, well. He's Hank Green, though. He's like one of the biggest accounts on Blue Sky. So that would make sense. Yeah. In other news. Yeah. We have the official pre-order date for Nintendo Switch 2 in the US. Oh, boy. And if you were listening to this on Friday. It already passed. You probably didn't get a Nintendo Switch 2 if this is news to you because it is Thursday the 24th. Yeah. Big thing about this, pricing$449. There are some price increases on a bunch of different accessories ranging from$5 to$10. I think Joy-Cons and Pro controllers are both$5 more expensive.

40:29Some of the cameras are more expensive. So, yeah, your little bundle you buy when you buy one is going to be pretty pricey. Yeah, but they didn't raise the price of the console, which is good. I also read that most GameStops are claiming they're expecting around 100 consoles, which is... That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah. That really feels like a lot. I think I read somewhere on Twitter that eight years ago, they were getting between like five and 30 consoles a store. There's also half as many GameStops as there used to be. That's true. So that could be part of the reason. Your local GameStop may have a line.

41:04it's like 11 a.m in store but still like Walmart Target are all doing some sort of pre-orders on the 24th yeah so it's midnight ET on the 24th in the United States was it I thought yeah midnight ET GameStop is different but the other ones yeah yeah yeah well yeah it's tonight at midnight which is kind of crazy and speaking of GameStop they actually do have some pretty sick trade-in deals uh you can get 125 for an original switch which considering they originally only costed 300 and that was eight years ago is a pretty good trade-in i would say i think it's awesome because we're all complaining about the price if you trade one in you're getting it for about the same price as this as the switch one 325 instead yeah yeah that's fair if it's good you do need to bring in the original hdmi cord it said which i thought was very funny and might pass a lot of people up which i don't know if i have there is that is hilarious wait so you need the original hdmi i don't know it just listed the stuff because it needs like the console the dock the power cord the which also could be a usbc cord yeah if you lost there's no way joy cons the original hdmi cable i think i do i mean some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it so they probably still have it oh okay yeah i guess if that's the one you're using then maybe that's the cable i have a way longer cable it's like 15 feet yeah like i had a cable already so i definitely i don't know what i did with that cable yeah uh you can also get 175 for switch oled trade-ins i have an oled but i'm probably not going to trade it uh you can get a hundred dollars for switch light trade-ins i was just going to ask are you guys going to pre-order i literally go back and forth every single day dude i'm hit it by minute i bet at some point tomorrow i will look at one of the pre-orders and if it's available i'll have a very hard time not doing it mostly because fomo right there yeah yeah i think i'm in the i'm in the same boat where i'm not gonna try really hard to pre-order but if i happen to stumble on one that's available if you happen to go to bestbuy.com or the gamestop that's what happened to me when i bought my switch oled because they were literally impossible to find for like weeks and i randomly went on bestbuy.com and i was like one available near you and i was like huh so i put in my cart for pickup and i showed up to best buy and the guy's like oh my god how did you get this like when he was like checking me out he's like how did you manage to did you use like a an app to and i was like are you a botter it was just on the internet my guy it was just there yeah another interesting note is that nintendo had to issue a supply constraint warning in japan because it got 2.2 million applications for pre-orders for the switch 2 for reference it sold 360 000 in japan in the first month when the switch one came out so this is about six times that demand which is absolutely insane uh and it basically said that a significant number of people will not get it on june 5th yeah this is the so they just kind of you just fill out a form there's no this isn't people who like put down five bucks or anything this is the like red no no this is like registering interest through the my nintendo store to pre-order oh well that's something yeah wow um Andrew I had a question for you about this that you might know more than me about doubt it but let's go my question is like immediately after the announcement video you were able to sign up for pre-ordering it through the my Nintendo store thing but it was sign up for interest and then there was that whole thing where like you could if you had 50 hours of play time and you had one year of Nintendo Switch Online you would be able to pre-order Yeah, I thought there was like a sign up for the pre preorder.

44:50Like it almost feels like the like Capital One early ticket thing. Yeah, what was going to happen was that you were going to be able to those people are going to be able to preorder a day before everybody else on my Nintendo store. And then they stopped preorders in the US altogether and push them to tomorrow. So my question is, is that whole thing just that's the last I heard of it. I haven't seen anything about that. I'm not like, you know, refreshing every day, but I have not heard anything about that. Because I haven't gotten anything in my email that's like pre-ordered. No, I didn't see anything on the Switch subreddit.

45:22I very well could have missed it. I like every couple of days go on there and just kind of skim through everything to see what's going on. But yeah, I don't know if they ever got to do anything with that because of all the delays. Interesting, interesting. And then you had one more thing here. We have a couple more. Well, you've got more. If you're interested in trading in, I was just reading that I thought was interesting. If you have like the OG Switch 1, apparently they're super popular in the modding community because they're like the only one you can mod. Oh, yeah. I saw people on there selling them for like a few hundred bucks.

45:53Oh, wow. So if you need a different way to make some money for Switch 2, that could be a way. I think like the modding thing only works if you hadn't like updated the software past a certain amount. Could be. I'm not totally sure. I just thought it was. What if I just used the money to short GameStop instead? Guaranteed. This is not financial advice. All right. But speaking of financial advice, Google could probably use some. I know, it's terrible. I'm available Google. We got an antitrust update in the U.S. versus Google case. And what is that? So we all know that the judge found Google to be a monopoly.

46:32Yeah. And they're in the process of figuring out how the U.S. government is going to fix it. So the judge during this trial said they're asking for three different things. One is to prevent Google from striking deals for prime search engine placement. Reference to how Google pays Apple$20 billion annually. Amazon has their own search engine. I missed it. No, you just said prime search engine placement. Oh, you very much confused me. I was like, wait, what? But yeah, I mean, we've talked about how much Google pays Apple to be that. They want Google to divest Chrome. The judge said it's the starting point of 35 % of all user queries and has over 4 billion users.

47:16And then they also would like to require Google to license its search data to competitors that would want it. So obviously they still make money through that, through the licensing fee, but obviously Google wants that information for themselves. Monetarily, it's more important to them because they get to do things other people don't get to do. even though they could make a ton of money off of it yeah um so google's pushing back uh to almost everything they said above however they did kind of agree with parts of the um striking deals and not being like a a exclusive default search engine which is but the doj is like cool you can kind of agree with us on that but you already have created such a like impossible lead over through these like monopolistic tactics that like i think we need to do this a little more to make up for an insurmountable yeah this is the place that you're in right now this is the interesting part to me which is always like okay google's established this lead and whatever you think about how they got the lead whatever now they are like the search engine that people choose and google still continues to pay apple 20 billion dollars a year to be the default search engine in safari what if they didn't would what would apple do i think the concern is that apple would just turn on their own search engine they've had ready for a very long time i think i think that's a possibility but i don't know that like it's google really think that that's what's going to happen i don't i just don't know that people would well google would iphone users be cool with oh i just like typed in the search box to google something and it's just all this other search engine came up for some reason i don't think they'd care really i really don't i think there would be a lot of memes if it was bing tomorrow like how many people would just be like why i guess bing to be fair looks a lot like google i think i think bing has a lot of negative connotations for everybody at this point so i kind of feel like maybe they'd change it from that i think the biggest thing is if we're talking just like average person who has a phone how many of them would know how to change the defaults yeah they might literally be stuck in whatever that and that's hundreds of millions of people and i just don't think a lot of people care i don't know because a lot of people still buy microsoft computers and and they open up edge to download chrome there's also a lot of people who have microsoft computers and and just use edge because it's there and bing is the default and they have no idea but chrome is the most popular browser yeah it is not the default on any computer other than chromebooks where it is the so people do seek out Chrome and seek out Google.

49:56That is true. So I just feel like if Google stopped paying Apple tomorrow, obviously Apple could spin up a search engine and would have to announce it and explain it at some point and they could launch it and do a whole thing. But I just wonder, would people... Well... I think it would... My point is I think it would continue to be Google for quite a while. Sure, but I think it's also... The fact that Google's paying them$20 billion a year proves how important that defaultness is. Google is an ads business. So why would they want to not pay$20 billion to find out? I'd rather just pay$20 billion.

50:29That's how important it is. They're tossing$20 billion a year. How much has a$20 billion been negotiated where it was like, give us$100 billion, and Google's like, no, we'll give you$20 billion. Yeah. Okay. All right. There's also, I think it's more important for them to show more revenue than it is for them to show more profits, necessarily. And if they're getting more and more revenue because more and more people are using Google search, if that dropped by even 20%, all of a sudden Google searches dropped by 20 % looks terrible in their stock tanks. It's just a lot of nuanced stuff. How much would it drop?

51:04That's the question. I think by a lot, honestly. My mom would not go to Google.com on her iPhone. But if they open up search on the iPhone after Google stops paying, what does Apple do? Do they just leave it at Google? Who knows? I think they just leave it at Google. They default it to something with the options of doing it in the settings, which most people never find. Or they take money from someone else. I don't know. I do think that Apple has an incentive to keep it on Google because Google is still the best experience right now. Yeah, by far. Compared to Bing. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they clearly are willing to do something else, though, because they're getting paid to do it.

51:42Yeah. I bet Apple has a fully-fledged, really good product that is just ready to go. That's gotta be... That they just don't think would make more than$20 billion. And then therefore, let's just take the money from Google. And they don't want to get into the complexities of running an ads business. With privacy way more at the forefront in their eyes. Because that's what a search engine is. It's an ads business. So we think Apple has the ability to launch a full-fledged search product tomorrow. Yes. But doesn't do it now because taking$20 billion from Google and just keeping it at Google is fine.

52:17I think that to them, that's less complicated than like getting into the advertising business. And they could do it and they could make it probably make a lot of money. But in the like you said, like the security stuff and the data privacy. I feel like if the government just told Apple, you can no longer have Google be the default. They would just make like a super private browser. I don't think it would be. We're not dealing with this at all. I don't think they would tell them Google can't be the default. It would be Google can't pay you to be the exclusive. Either way, I just mean like Apple, I don't think would want to be bothered with any of this.

52:51Well, also think about the antitrust potential of Apple having their own browser that is the default. Because they would definitely come after Apple and be like, you can't do that. Well, not if they're not doing any kind of like advertising monopolistic things. Yeah, right now. They wouldn't do an advertising business. Yeah, Android phones, Chrome is the default. Google is the default search engine. Yeah. And that obviously is a big point of contention with Chrome. but let's say Safari is the default and Apple Search is the default search engine and they're not the biggest search provider so they can't really have a monopoly argument yet.

53:26Is that fine for now, I guess? It seems like that'd be fine. I just don't, I don't know. It seems hard to believe that Apple could launch a new business today that is that massive. That has threatens their biggest competitor but doesn't do it. Well, you know, the US broke up Microsoft because they were monopolizing search engines with the Internet Explorer. I could totally see Tim Cook getting on stage and being like, you know, never explaining the Google Chrome thing, but just being like, we have this new browser, super private, on your phone, doesn't go anywhere. And they're just like, we're just not gonna deal with this.

53:59Just search engine. It could be the same browser, but just like the search engine. We've built a search engine. Just to like get around all this. It could be under, I almost picture it being under Apple intelligence of being like, yeah, we've got Siri. So if you want to search for stuff, there's Siri search. Yeah. And it's super private and no one can sell you ads based on what you search, et cetera, et cetera. Wouldn't want any of those guys collecting data on you, would you? Exactly. Use Safari. True. The rest of this is pretty much about data. Satya Nadella testified during this. I don't know why.

54:28I think that's so funny that he's like, the only way to build a great search engine is with unobtainable amounts of search data. And Google's made sure no one else has that besides themselves, which no shit. The CEO of Microsoft is like, yes, please let me buy that data. Yeah. And then what's also funny is kind of related to Microsoft is I hate it. During the trial, the head of product from OpenAI mentioned that they would be interested in purchasing Chrome if it were to go on sale, which now is very funny because is their boss not in the room with them? Who makes Bing? Satya's like, you'd what?

55:02You would what? It'd be a shame if something happened to our investment. I just thought that was so funny. And also, please, God, no, OpenAI don't buy Chrome. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Speaking of antitrust suits. Another one. Let's keep the good times going. DJ Khaled. Apple and Meta just got hit with really big DMA antitrust fines. If you remember, the European Union basically went after Apple and Meta and were basically like, you cannot do these things. The big thing for Apple was third party app stores was a major thing where Apple eventually complied. but they did so in the most malicious compliance way possible to the point where it basically penalized you a ton if you were willing to put your app on a third-party app store in the european union uh and made it like worse for most people so uh the eu is not happy about that malicious compliance and they find apple 570 million dollars for violating the the uh dma which is crazy and it says that has 60 days to basically remedy this so that's that's not too good for apple we'll see what happens there they're probably going to have to get rid of all of that jargon and just fully open it up without any consequences it'll be interesting to see if apple actually complies with that the EU is actually also not happy with meta for a very similar reason it was charging facebook and instagram users to either pay a subscription fee to like get rid of all of the ads that were being shown there or they could use their personal data um to kind of like have ad supported versions on the platform and meta solution was to in the eu was to allow free users to see fewer unskippable full screen ads uh but the eu is not too happy about that either so both of them got hit with huge fines apple's fine was 570 million meta's fine was about half that but they could basically be continue they could continue to get fined fairly regularly unless they fix these issues within 60 days it's crazy to think 570 million is a gigantic fine yet we just talked about them paying about 30 times that a year to google it just doesn't feel like such a fine that's crazy yeah so i mean most of these companies will take the fines if it means they're making more money by doing the thing they're not supposed to do that's just generally how it works because the fines are just not big enough to actually be real deterrence uh this seems quite a bit bigger 570 million that they have to pay right now they're gonna appeal it obviously but that seems like a a bigger deterrence than they usually get hit with so we'll see how that plays out this is like when you see like a ferrari parked in like a do not park thing and it just has like four tickets on a dash like yeah they don't care i don't care it's more convenient for me to be parked illegally yeah wow um and then last little thing about companies giving large sums of money to other companies uh it came out that google pays an enormous amount of money to samsung to have gemini pre-installed on its phones this does not shock me at all yeah yeah they seem to be very close partners in a lot of ways yeah so yeah yeah i mean at the pixel event they literally showed gemini on the galaxy s24 ultra at google i o they regularly demo exclusive features on samsung phones yeah they'll probably do it again this year we knew that they had a very close partnership but it seems like it's been getting closer and closer and now we have uh actual evidence that they've been paying them a lot of money so apparently google has been paying Samsung an enormous amount of money since January monthly to have Gemini pre-installed on Samsung's phone.

58:51So that would probably be around the announcement of the S25 series. It also gives Samsung a percentage of revenue earned from advertisers in the Gemini app. I have never seen an ad in the Gemini app. Me neither. So I'm not really sure what that means. It could be a future thing. It could be a future thing. But the judge actually ruled that this violates antitrust law and is hearing testimony to figure out what Google will have to do to remedy the behavior. So Google's not in the best situation right now. This coming out in the middle of this antitrust thing happening feels like the start of the search engine.

59:27They're just doing it with AI instead. Yeah. You know what I just thought of? What? OpenAI has been working on this search product. Maybe if Google wasn't paying... Careful, Marques, careful. Maybe if Google buys... If Google wasn't paying Samsung, Samsung would just switch it to OpenAI's product. It says they had offers from OpenAI and Microsoft as well. Yeah, so maybe in a world today where Google stops paying Apple to be the default search engine in Safari, OpenAI is like, yeah, I want that deal. I want to be the search. What you know is funny is Safari kind of got dumber when they added, not Safari, Siri, sorry.

1:00:04Siri kind of got dumber when they added the OpenAI integration. ChatGPT, yeah. ChatGPT integration. There's been multiple cases that people post online of like hey siri what day of the week is it and it'll be like do you want me to ask chat gpt for that yeah it's it's literally the big speed april fools video we did where it's like it can't answer it i'm literally gonna ask someone else yeah we were ahead of our time with that joke we were yeah so my i just want to say my chat gpt experience lately it's few and far between and it has been miserable every time really every time it's like hey can you do this thing and i'll do it do it do it and then i'll be like can you do one more that's against our policy why is it against your policy for this reason cool do it without that reason that is against our policy perfect example i was like trying to explain to tim a thumbnail i wanted to make and it was just this idea of typing on a keyboard and the keys are flying all over the place okay so it did a pretty good job at creating that and then i said can you make this in look like a youtube thumbnail and it throws the youtube logo on and some text that looks terrible i said can you please take that off and change the text to this and then first it says you've run out of requests for today because i don't have pro please come back in 24 hours that was friday i come back monday i ask it to remove it it says uh you've run out of requests and it's had to do that three times i said that was three days ago i'm past the time limit is it you're right and then it and then it said let me try to do that generating image and it said this is against our policy so i said why and they said there was a logo involved in it and they can't do anything with logos so i said you put the logo in in fact i'm asking you to take it out i said whoa you're right i did i did put that in and you are just asking to put that take it out what should i let me get a get on with that and then it says generate an image says that is against our policy and then i just gave up i'm like not doing this so yeah that was my last chat gp experience wow it's terrible that sounds horrible if only you had a samsung phone that you could just if only i had image playground yeah then you make a cartoon all right uh yeah okay well we we will take another quick break we do have of course our trademarked have we trademarked no our trade i mean just kidding we don't look our patent pending final segment uh last of the month called crown or clown and clown crown and clown so uh we're gonna get to that after the break but of course we should do one more round of trivia

1:02:38okay trivia trivia question two twitter announced a public verification system in what year asterisk it was discontinued that same year because they received too many requests public oh but when did they launch it the public one oh like how you can request it publicly just being able to request or like oh is that where there's like a verified account you had to like, what happened? I think it was in the setting. They got too many people requesting and they were like, we don't have that many employees. In the settings, there was like a form you could fill out. Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't know about that.

1:03:14I was verified after it shut down somehow. Oh, really? Yeah, because there was still a this person's impersonating me form and I filled that out and they were like, oh, we're just going to verify it. I got verified like two weeks before they made it paid. And I was like, well, there goes that. oh really and then everyone's like look at this lose check that's funny and then you had to pay to put it oh no I did not pay they just removed it oh yeah yeah alright alright well we'll think about it answers at the end we'll be right back

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1:06:08Nice. One hour later. I will pitch, I think the crown of April is the Nintendo Switch 2. That's what I was going to say. It's really hard not to say it. As much as people gave it crap for pricing and there's been some delays, I still really think they delivered on the majority of the things. My argument is... It's the thing I'm the most excited about. Have they? Because it's not even out yet. What if it's just a break? I mean, we will see. Announced. it's always been for june it actually hasn't been delayed on delivering yet yeah yet no no i know but i mean like what if we get it and it sucks well okay they could still screw up the because they said they fixed the stick drift but it's not hall effect so i don't know if i fully believe them on that but a lot of the other things were good minus pricing and some of the game card keys but also like and i didn't know this apparently a lot of xbox and playstation games have been doing this for a long time without the physical key it's just a download code inside the box so this is a better version of that i totally agree because you can sell them and trade them and whatever later so i think they did a good job digital foundry did a very in-depth uh thing about the switch to that they put out two days ago and i would recommend going to look at that they have a bunch of videos and also write-ups about it that is a long article it's super in-depth and they have a bunch of they have videos for like every portion of it is it generally it's generally quite positive yeah they're saying the performance is like way better than they expected and yeah so interesting it's generally very positive all right david what's your crown well it was supposed to be switched to i mean it still can be switched to because we have to agree anyway yeah we have to agree so you could just double up if you want i'm not saying it's good because i don't know because i've never even touched it that's what i'm saying but i do think only one person in this room has touched it i have touched it thanks for clarifying what other positive things have happened this month.

1:08:02Nothing. Literally nothing. I have something. Yeah, Mark, what's yours? Okay, well, I have two. One of them is not really a thing. One of them was a Volvo EX90, which we reviewed this month, but it didn't come out this month, so it's probably not going to win. Okay. But I just find something else. Nice car. In the month of April, scientists at Zhejiang University and the University of Cambridge built much, much smaller individual pixels on an LED display. Record-breaking amount, actually. They achieved the smallest pixels ever at 90 nanometers wide. You would know about this. And it's hard to explain how small 90 nanometers is, but they've been working on this over and over again and shrinking down and down the pixels over and over.

1:08:50But this 90 nanometer wide pixel achieved a pixel density of 127 ,000 pixels per inch, which is pretty sick. Virus-sized pixels. it makes oil paintings look pixelated is how they described it now obviously there's a lot there's a lot of challenges that come from having pixels that small from running drivers driving it brightness to whatever all these other things um but i just want to emphasize how small those individual pixels are if a human hair was a skyscraper a 90 nanometer object would be a single floor tile. Floor tile, not floor? Like thickness? Floor tile, yeah. Is the floor tile standing up?

1:09:34Human hair, sideways, skyscraper. What length of human hair? That's a great question. The width of a human hair. The width of a human hair is a skyscraper. Holy crap. Another way of looking at it, if a red blood cell were a soccer ball, a single pixel would be a grain of sand. Wow. That one seems not as crazy. Yeah. But red blood cells are so crazy. You have to know how small a red blood cells are. Right, because I see blood, but I don't know how big this individual cells are. Red blood cells are pretty small compared to a single hair. Thanks. A pool, yeah, I don't know. So anyway, yeah, 127 ,000 pixel per inch display is my crown of the month.

1:10:12Hold on. I just want to say, you guys said it can't be the Switch 2 because I haven't seen it yet, and then you bring out this science-breaking lab-only. You can see it. No, no, I'm saying you guys said it to me. no no no I don't think that's a I don't think the rule has to be you have to have seen it because we've had previous crowns that are things we haven't seen I'm I agree yeah I never said you had to have seen I said I had to be out this is a lab yeah it's out yeah it includes one of them exists just one I see your point Andrew and I'm choosing to ignore it somehow someone can get us access to making a video on that though that would be just saying I'm pretty sure we would do that microscopes yeah electron microscopes i'll drop a link in the in the slack so you guys can probably because it's pretty that's how those work the ultimate problems speaking of slack i'm gonna tell you what ellis's crown is for the month he discovered that there are now hdr emojis in this isn't this is this is not a crown my friend he thinks it's a crown it is not hdr emojis it It looks horrible.

1:11:17If you're scrolling through on Slack, you'll see a regular emoji, and then you'll see a very bright spot on your screen, which is the other one. It looks broken. Can you post it? Yeah, I'm going to put it in Slack. Yeah, can you please post it? It's in the waveform. It just looks broken. Jesus. It's like glowing on yours. I think it's because I'm in dark mode on Slack. Yeah. You're scrolling. I feel like I'm blinking and seeing it in my vision. It's definitely an SDR on my computer, which I'm happy about. Wow. Is Ellis saying that he likes scrolling through Instagram under his blanket and just getting blinded randomly in the middle of the room?

1:11:55Is this his crown? This is his crown. That's what I said. That's what I said. He thinks this is awesome. Okay, well, I don't. I think this should be eligible for the clown. Does he have a clown separately? His clown is... It's going to be something amazing. No. It's basically Apple getting dinged for the removing the Apple intelligence coming soon part. That's a clown? He said that's his clown. That's a good thing. They had it up in the first place. Interesting. I asked Gemini what are the best things that happen in consumer technology in April 2025 and it said the Apple M4 chip launched. It did not launch this month.

1:12:35The Bard upgrade? Bard upgrade? That might be April three years ago. Gemini literally called itself its old... You're asking Gemini, which is what Bard was. And it said, the Bard AI platform received an update integrating the more advanced Gemini 2.0 model. AI travel planning. Wow, this is horrible. None of these are true. Sick. I love AI. At this point for Crown, we're reduced to the Switch 2. Or the groundbreaking new technology. The 127 ,000 pixel per inch display or the HDR emoji. Imagine the HDR emoji on... On that display? Whew! Crisp. Crisp. Cooked. Eyes cooked. Eyes cooked. Vectors. What about the Beats cables?

1:13:24That was one of those mid-things that happened that we forgot about within 30 seconds of it happening. But I thought you said it was the biggest story of the year. Oh, I did say that, didn't I? I was lying. Damn. I thought you were serious. I mean, it's hard to vote against. I feel like every time I just give up on my answer. It is a pretty cool screen. I have a question. All those pictures look like they were green pixels only. Can the pixels change colors? Don't worry about it. If it's green only. What do you mean green only? I don't know. Are they green? How about... Yeah. Oh, okay. Never mind.

1:14:02David was looking at something else. What about Sam Altman potentially buying his own company? Clown. You already said yours. Yours is the Switch. Yeah, it's the Switch 2. Okay. I think it's the Switch 2. Come on. It's probably the Switch 2. It's the most talked about thing this month. Which doesn't necessarily mean it's the test. That isn't negative. There was a lot of negative stuff about it, but I think some of it was blown out of proportion. Yeah. And some of it's totally reasonable criticism. All right, I'll fold. I'll go Switch 2. Let's go. Let's go. What is the clown then? The clown. Tariffs.

1:14:36Reciperable tariffs. they came out the same day actually and the clown came out the same that's a good point I was gonna go blue origin PR stunt nevermind I lose actually I think that's it I think that's it that was my clown what about um 23andMe selling their data going bankrupt has it happened yet or did it get sold that was not a clown yet I know but remember last month we were like April clown it's like the buyer could be horrible but yeah they haven't sold yet okay cool perfect yeah so yeah i think blue origin is the best one i think adam's got one but it's a hard one to top okay so my clown then is something that i just realized yesterday which is that my phone number has been tied up in iMessage for like two months now since i switched to the pixel so you've missed a thousand messages ellis texted me and on slack he's like yo i texted you and i'm like no you didn't and then i saw it pop up on the messages app in my computer and then when i opened that up there was like 30 missed messages and i was like how is this still a problem how are we still dealing with this this is along the lines of that tech question i had maybe two or three weeks ago which is like the rcs thing not working on my phone yeah which i think on the iphone you have to turn off yeah i did you do i didn't do it on my laptop which is a separate thing and that's why it all went to my laptop why i still carry two phones did you figure it out i haven't figured it out but it has gradually started working with more and more threads.

1:16:05I've seen a lot of suggestions of similar issues. I know you said you tried some of them, but there were people, some of them were like, you had to like sign out and then like restart your phone and then all this. No, I went through the comments. I tried basically everything everyone was suggesting and nothing was working. And then a couple of days later, I tried an RCS message to someone I usually RCS message and it worked. And I was like, oh, oh, RCS. And then I tried another thread and it's like SMS. Adam, that's crazy because like Ellis and Brandon must also have had their iMessage things like mess up because they never respond to me either.

1:16:42So Brandon was one of the people that I had gotten a message from him like three weeks ago. And then I had to reply like, sorry, can you resend all this? Because it's stuck on my computer now. Damn. Very annoying. I didn't text you, so. Yeah, you never text me. I just tried Telegramming. Yeah, which is terrible. Clown. That's the clown. That's the true clown. That's the world-wide clown. David's still using Telegram. I have these problems that you were both having, you know? All I do is get a bunch of fake spam messages every day. I like it that way. Are we in agreement? Crown is switched to clown is Blue Origin.

1:17:19Yeah. I think that's how it'll... Yeah, that's April 2025 right there. That's it, yeah. Yeah. There's April. Oh, that's pretty... We should do a year-long calendar. The end of the year, yeah. At the end of the year, that's a calendar, and it has the crown and clown. from every month. We'll collect them all. Yeah. Gotta collect them all. June is probably also gonna be Switch 2. Switch 2, 2? Switch 2, 2. The Switching. We'll see how June goes. Either way, hey, that's been it. We should do the trivia questions. Oh, yeah. Trivia, dude. Okay, let me run through this. Wait for it. You did not wait for it.

1:17:52127 ,000 pixels per inch. That's crazy. Per inch? Insane. Okay. The sphere in Las Vegas is about to about to shutter imagine this here in las vegas at 127 000 ppi yeah in hdr no it would it would look the space would look like this slack hdr looks like an hdr emoji from a plane it also has emojis on it on the sphere that's exactly that's what it is it's an hdr emoji i was in a hotel in vegas a couple months ago and i opened my windows in the morning and it was just the giant emoji staring back at me. That's dope. All right. So these are all Google services grabbed from the Google graveyard. Which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests?

1:18:44And it lasted 11 months. And it lasted 11 months. A, Grasshopper. B, Streams. C, Poly. Or D, Shoelace.

1:18:56What is it? a grasshopper no no what's the question again oh which of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests i'm so mad that i changed my answer which means the first one was definitely right whenever i do that i just crossed it out so that the world knows that i actually thought the right answer nice okay okay we have different answers here all right uh i don't know the answer so i can guess i said uh grasshopper grasshopper yeah incorrect that's what i had at first andrew and i both put shoe you both put shoelace well i put d was that shoelace yeah it was okay yeah because you go you gotta lace up your shoes to go do an activity well is that why you thought that's why i thought it right it's to find new activities so i'm gonna go do my activity with my friend i sort of remember this launching because it was only a couple years ago right um 20 wait let me find it one second also what was that 2020 it shut down yeah yeah okay also what was option a grasshopper grasshopper what was b streams what was c poly yeah okay what was d grasshopper is a thing in google he said they're all not anymore they were all things but now they're all dead oh well at least i got the point all right question two yeah nothing about this shoelace app screams google at all really yeah it looks like it was made in Canva.

1:20:17It does. No, it literally does. That's the worst thing you can say. It looks like you made this in Canva. This episode is sponsored by Canva. That would be really funny. They probably did make it in Canva. Oh, God. Okay. Twitter announced the public verification system in what year? Public verification. The PV. And then they got flooded with requests and they shut it down that same year. My pen is like not working at all but here just do this yeah here right over it i'll give you an extra point if you get the month oh okay good all right flip them and read what do we got i am once again guessing okay oh i went way later than both of you oh we'll go in order i guess june 2012 12.

1:21:14Incorrect. Are we just closest here? Sure. Sure. Let's do closest Delta. Okay. I did March 2014. March 2014? Yeah. Nope. Wow. I did June 2021. June 2021. What? Wrong one. Incorrect. I think you were thinking of Elon's verification. When did he buy it? 2021. Was it 2021? Or was it 2022? I thought it was very close before he bought it is when they added that form that was like, I am blank, blank, blank, blank. That was a long time before that. That's when they brought it back. This is the first time. Oh, yeah. The correct answer was July 2016. So David gets the point. Let's go. 2016. Wow, that's late.

1:22:02That is late. I knew I was thinking of the second one. I thought I got verified in 2015. you probably got verified before the public request cool quick update on the score Marquez 18, Andrew 9, David 21 David you can legally drink now let's go you're older than the oldest YouTube video that's right or not older the day this show is live I'll be 10 years older oh yeah everyone say happy birthday to David happy birthday If you made it this far into the episode. If you made it this far, then you know when David's birthday is. Officially dust. Drop your comments below. In between all the which language do you prefer the dub to be comments.

1:22:45We appreciate both of those. Say happy birthday in a different language. Do it. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Feliz cumpleaños. Yeah. But yeah, we'll be back, of course, in May. That's the next month. May. Wow. Is that true? May, we already know. What about April 30th? Oh, wait, but they'll not see us until May. Until May. They won't see us till May. So we'll see you in May. It's going to be May, etc., etc. Appreciate y 'all. Thanks for subscribing. Thanks for watching. Thanks for commenting. Catch y 'all in the next episode. Peace. Waveformers produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Roffin. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network.

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This week, Marques, Andrew, and David jump right into all things YouTube! It's the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube video upload so everyone takes turns talking about what their favorite videos are before getting into the big antitrust news of the week regarding Google. Then they talk about Nintendo Switch 2 pre-orders and Apple and Meta getting hit some huge fines. After that, it's time to pick the Crown and Clown of the month before getting intro trivia. Enjoy!

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Andrew's favorite video
Ellis's favorite video
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