Our Studio Pitches Cursed Tech Inventions!

28 May 2025 · 1 h 20 min

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Episode Title

Our Studio Pitches Cursed Tech Inventions!

Description In this episode of the Waveform Podcast, host Marques Brownlee (MKBHD) along with co-hosts Andrew Manganelli and Ellis Rovin invite members of The Studio to present their wildest tech invention ideas in a format reminiscent of "Shark Tank." Each pitch showcases humorous, outlandish concepts, leading to lively discussions and hilarious investor interactions.

Key Themes and Concepts

Podcast Format

  • Inspired by Shark Tank: The episode mimics a pitch format where guests present tech product ideas to a panel of "investors" (Marques, Andrew, and Ellis).
  • Focus on Humor: The inventions pitched are intentionally absurd, contributing to a light-hearted and chaotic atmosphere.

Notable Inventions Pitched

  1. Gemini Home 3D
  2. Described as a "volumetric display" integrating Google’s AI capabilities.
  3. Suggested to enhance smart home experiences but received skepticism about its practicality.
  1. The Ned Nonstro 8K Camera
  2. A parody of high-end cameras with a focus on ridiculous features and branding.
  3. The pitch included comedic elements, like the absurdity of its design and functionality.
  1. The LG Maximalist Phone
  2. A tongue-in-cheek design featuring several displays and collaborations with popular apps.
  3. Pitched as the ultimate device for content consumption, ironically highlighting the excesses of smartphone features.
  1. iTab Case
  2. A case for iPads that adds buttons and knobs for an engaging tactile experience.
  3. The design includes whimsical and impractical features, like a smell-o-vision component and a mercury thermometer.

Discussion Highlights

  • Investor Dynamics: The hosts engage in playful banter as they critique the inventions and negotiate imaginary partnerships.
  • Humor and Absurdity: The conversations revolve around the nonsensical aspects of the products, leading to funny exchanges and commentary on tech culture.
  • Real Tech Concerns: Despite the humor, there are underlying discussions about tech product viability and consumer needs.

Key Takeaways

  • Entertainment Value: The episode excels in entertaining the audience with its comedic take on tech innovation.
  • Social Commentary: The pitches highlight the sometimes absurd direction of tech development in a humorous light, questioning the practicality of certain trends.
  • Community Engagement: Listeners are encouraged to engage with the content, reflecting on their favorite pitches and ideas.

Conclusion This episode of the Waveform Podcast is a creative exploration of tech innovation through humor, featuring absurd pitches that provoke laughter while simultaneously critiquing industry norms. The playful format serves as a reminder of the imaginative potential within the tech community, encouraging a balance between serious innovation and light-hearted creativity.

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0:27Adobe Acrobat Studio, so brand new. Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded, so you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you, like tea time you. Mmm. Or this tea time you. Or even this tea time you. So did you hear about Dave? Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you. Mmm. So update on Dave. It's up to you. We'll take the laundry. Rinse. It's time to be great. How's the low light performance on the camera? Because with 50 megapixels, the photo sites are going to be really small. I think it was 500 megapixels.

1:06500 megapixel main sensor. It's bending down to 50. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No notes. No notes. Yeah. Okay. You know, Alex, I love what you're putting down, but I think without a Philadelphia 76ers integration, I just don't think I could co-sign this. That's okay. I was really just here for it. That's, yeah. The headline, the headline, Marquez Brownlee single-handedly resurrects LG Mobile. That's going to hit, man. That's what I'm thinking.

1:39Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. This is not your regularly scheduled programming. We'll be back to that on Friday. Today is Wednesday? Or Tuesday. Or Tuesday? Could be a couple things. Could be any day. Don't check or watch. It is a Waveform Podcast. though. And yeah, this is a bonus episode. So we're your hosts for this episode. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm Ellis at the big table. Yeah. So. That's how you know this is going to be a good episode. Oh, yeah. No slight against David. I hope he doesn't take those slight. Okay, we're ready.

2:11So do you guys watch Shark Tank at all? I do watch Shark Tank. Okay. Ellis doesn't. Andrew does. I do. Are you familiar with the concept? Uh, vaguely. It's Mark Cuban and the other guy and really passionate people come up and they say, I have this idea and I need your help. And then they scheme and they go, how much of that can be mine? Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like a symbolism for the American dream, but also fast forwarded and cut up. And it's an entrepreneur with a business or a product or some idea that they're pitching to this investor and how they can collaborate to make it happen. I believe one of my favorite products was a Shark Tank product.

2:51Scrub Daddy. Scrub Daddy. Oh, that's one of your favorite products? Well, it was. Now Scrub Daddy has been ruined by Unilever. Oh. Yeah. Now it's just the same as any other sponge. But back in the heyday of scrubbing. Yeah. King. No, that's perfect. That is a quintessential Shark Tank success story. It's something that got brought to the masses. It was shown on TV. It got the investment. It got the collaboration. And the partnership was beautiful. Today on Waveform, we're going to be playing our own little version of Shark Tank. Now, we're not investing per se, so we're kind of doing a little twist on the formula if you want to explain it.

3:26But it is still kind of like Shark Tank for us. Yeah, so last summer, Eric came up with this idea called Studio Pitches. And they were going to have, it's four people that will be on today. Four of them made up a, I believe, tech product. hopefully tech most likely tech product um to then pitch to a panel that was going to be on the studio channel and we had at that time david fetterspiel our intern create some i haven't seen them yet but it sounds like some really really good mock-ups this is not just a like idea and they pitch it to us there are visual representations of these ideas and this was a year ago this the video never got made and we were like wow he spent a lot of time on that and they were really good we should revive this we needed a bonus episode for this month so we are turning into a podcast so the rules of today are going to be each person is going to come in they're going to pitch us their product us three are going to be the shark investors but since we don't have money and we're just going to then after pitch to them why we would be the correct partner for them yeah um so we will have to think of ideas on maybe how to market it maybe where it could prevail like we have to prove to them that we can make their item a success.

4:38Yeah. So it's like upside down Shark Tank. The investor, or sorry, the entrepreneur, which is our guests, will come in with a product that they've made up, and then we have to figure out how to convince them that we're the right partner. Correct. Cool. Okay. I think I get it. Yeah. You know, I don't know a lot about investing, but if there's one thing I've learned from reading VC tweets on Twitter, it's that the key to being a good tech venture capitalist is feeling like you are the most important person in the world and what you do investing is the most Herculean and impossible task. So I think we should all just self-aggrandize a little bit and get ready to change some lives.

5:17Ellis is literally eating birthday cake at 11 a.m. this morning, which feels like the most lord and peasant thing we could be doing. So he's in character. It's yellow cake. I kind of want some. I'm going to have some later. It looks really good. Is it good? You know, it's been sitting on a counter for a full day. so oh okay i mean it's that's not that bad no i mean it's okay it's birthday cake all right so we have four contestants coming in yeah jump right in let's do it nope are you hearing all that

5:50welcome to the lion's den eric that's always funny because eric can't hear the shark tank but you knew the lion's den i was trying to make a joke i was hoping someone would be like no it's not the lion's den it's a shark tank oh well there's a canadian version of shark tank called the lion's den oh welcome to the eel pit that's really good hello gentlemen how are we great we're good are we feeling middle class today by any chance never are we feeling he's eating birthday cake he's eating birthday cake that's drinking out of a cash app mug if this isn't if this isn't wealth i don't know what is i do ellis i do know what wealth is you know what's cooler than one piece of birthday cake show me a billion pieces of birthday cake i'm listening all right let's go it's tech bro time all right so i'd like to give a little behind the scenes i'm eric i'm the you know i'm the one of the producers on the studio channel this was originally a concept for the studio channel that we were going to do this time last year we were pre-proing it and so before we dig in we need to all take ourselves back to a simpler time 2024 just for our audio listeners you have the first slide of your presentation says eric saves google yeah the next slide says welcome to 2024 i need to just set the stage we're all just going to remember what it was like to be alive in 2024 brat was topping the charts brain x our video on the brain x was universally loved with no critiques whatsoever no hate um as was our coverage of the Tesla Cybertruck, Apple Vision Pro, Humane AI pin, and Rabbit R1.

7:28And cultural phenomenons like the film challengers and the two guys doing the boom stuff, equally valuable. They dominated culture. That's true. Okay? The zeitgeist of the world is on this one slide. If you're an audio listener, you're not witnessing the beauty of the zeitgeist. There was something happening, though. While the rest of the world was in party mode, Google was in panic mode. google a google's ai efforts were uh were pretty bad last year i think wasn't great last year's google uh google i o was like boring yeah it was really it was it was awkward it was cringe it was cringe it was really cringe it was cringe gentlemen it was it was pretty weird and while all of this was happening there was great progress happening open ai and apple announced a partnership to integrate chat gpt into apple experiences that was going to come that's that's coming in early 2025 because it's currently 2024 that's coming in early 2025 by january apple will clearly have an excellent ai suite so so there's this existential risk to google because google pays billions of dollars to apple to make sure that they're the default search engine on apple phones if siri's integrated with open ai and the future of search is going to look more and more like an llm that is an existential risk how is google going to access some of the most valuable consumers in the world.

8:46Google needs this to work. They need AI, their efforts in AI to work because if they don't, there's potential existential risk here. Billions of dollars. And if we lose Google, who's to say that we don't lose the White House next? This is a fair point. Oh my God. So we need to reach the wealthy. We need to reach rich people. And if there's one thing I know about rich people, it's that they love Google products and they love AI hardware. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, gentlemen, I'd like to introduce you. Oh, my God. What is this? To the Gemini Home 3D. Oh, no. I think the best place here right now is just for you guys to maybe describe this to our audio listeners.

9:32Yeah. So I'm seeing like an upside down jug and it has the two of the eye emojis and the lip emoji in between them all in one straight line. It's like the, do you know the fans you get that have LEDs on them so when they spin they can spell things out? There's a center column. I think that's actually what's powering the display. Am I correct? Yes. Yeah. Ellis. What is this? It's a volumetric display! It is, in fact, a volumetric. Jesus. So what Google can do here is they can integrate Gemini into the Google Home experience, completely revamp it, but add something that's visual. Almost like taking elements of the Pixel tablet experience, but making it way less practical and not portable at all.

10:19So the way that this tech works is you have a fan in the center with different LEDs in it. And because it's spinning so quickly, it can create the illusion of depth and actually create a 3D image. When you pair that with Google's excellent potential for AI video generation and image generation because they can train data off of videos like this without our consent, then you can actually have this really immersive, excellent experience that Google could uniquely compete on. So this strengthens the ecosystem for especially Americans who predominantly experience the AI hardware experience through the lens of Apple right now.

10:55it helps boost internal morale at Google because who wouldn't want to make something like this like everyone would be like we're so cool you know this is probably the most important thing that Google's ever launched since Google Hangouts and then it's just objectively amazing so yeah what are our questions on the future of AI hardware this is good this is really nice I wonder so it's gonna run Gemini I assume and move on from Google Assistant yeah I mean until they name it something else Well, yeah, you know, there's barred somewhere in there. Are there any plans to recover some of the functions of Google Assistant and move them into this Gemini box?

11:34There's definitely plans. Okay, great. I love hearing that. Yeah, there's so many. There's plans everywhere. What is the pixel density of the... The Pixel 9 Pro integrates perfectly. You could use the entire Pixel suite. Why would someone choose this box with eyes over a box without eyes? Why would someone choose this box with eyes over a box without eyes? That's correct. I think that's a great question. I think the key to understanding why people gravitate towards eyes is really to understand the humanity behind the technology. Which is? I mean, look at the thing. All right. Follow-up question.

12:13I see you have a distinct orange, two-tone orange and cream base with a sort of old-school style speaker grill that sort of implies a design partnership with teenage engineering. Is this the case? Yeah, we had an intern design this. He's fired. David did not get fired. He did not get fired. His internship ended. All right. All right. I'm still not quite understanding the value proposition, Eric. I understand smart home LLM integration, fine and dandy. Right. But, you know, volumetric display, this thing's going to be expensive. I don't understand how you're an investor, and I'm saying AI, and you're not on board.

12:56Throwing money at him, right? I can't help but feel like these gentlemen right here would be excellent partners who really want to win this deal. And if you're skeptical, I completely understand. But maybe you should go chat with the folks at SoftBank or maybe Adam Neumann with WeWork. I heard Elizabeth Holmes is raising a new— We here at Spruce Capital, at B17Z, we only invest in the worst, most useless products, okay? And this seems like a perfect candidate. I just need you to explain to me a little further why this thing is so bad. Yeah, I think that makes perfect sense. It's not bad. This has potential to fundamentally change the way that humans interact with technology.

13:34I'm listening. Say more. That I see. More buzzwords? Yeah. Because they're interactive. Language models, machine learning. I think we, what is, do we have a size of this? I need to be able to fit this into every single room inside of the average households. And are there other color options? Because. Yeah. So absolutely very flexible in terms of the colorway. And the beauty of this is because it's a density of LEDs, the vast majority of the visuals are essentially entirely modular, right? You can fundamentally change this, especially once you have generative AI, you can change this as much as you want.

14:10We can integrate cameras, scan your room, look at everything that's happening, and then perfectly make it blend almost like a chameleon in your home. So if you don't want to see it, it spins around. It just looks like the wall. But then you know what? You want to photo your family. Boom. It's right there. It can tell that your in-laws are coming in and you don't like them. It can have a little emergency button. It says beep, beep, beep, and you can run away. It can just see that. So a big pitch of Google's 2024 AI initiative was AI, LLMs and AI can take care of the one like super annoying thing no one wants to do.

14:45Taking care of your kids. Raise your children. Exactly. So LLMs can do their homework and teach them valuable life lessons. So as someone who has literally no interest in raising my children, where does this thing step in? So children are inherently visual. There's actually a lot of studies that find that. There's a lot of studies that. Right. Because previously, if I wanted it to do help my children with their homework, it would generate a podcast. Right. It would talk to them. 30 year olds like podcasts. Exactly. Exactly. There are no children listening to this right now. Never once. Nope. I mean, maybe the child of a 30 year old, but.

15:21In a car somewhere. In a car somewhere. Yeah. We're talking to you. Turn on Coco Melon. anyway yeah so so visually like the this volumetric display will be able to yeah come up with a a sprite perhaps yeah so children before the age of four can't distinguish the difference between fiction and reality so you could actually use this to fundamentally alter a child's perception of reality i'm listening all right can these be linked up to create stereo sound oh that is a fantastic question i'm going to say yes despite never thinking about this it's yeah very google answer there uh no i like that i think i so i think i'd be the perfect partner for this and i'll tell you why uh i've been primed up to throw away all of my morals and partner with the tech company on something in a category i've already reviewed so fresh off the heels of murdering other standalone ai devices it would be a great opportunity for me to totally flip everything and shock everyone and partner up here and and bring this to the masses i like this is the way to get i like the thing you said about morals yeah that was good yeah no we don't want we toss those i like that i like that that's good yeah gentlemen what are what are your pitches do you have birds i got i do i do like the idea that playing anything over a screen this could be a house plant to blinding my TV console.

16:47Who wants to take care of a plant? Exactly. So it can fit in anything. I do, you know, the fact that Ella just thought of the teenage engineering almost makes me think he might be the better partner because teenage engineering immediately lets you put a 45 % margin on top of this thing. What game are you trying to play here? I don't know. You're trying to make me go with Ella's, which makes me want you more. That's what I was going for. All right. I don't know if I'm the correct partner for this because I do plan on raising my children. And I think this could start. You know, I think it would be potentially harmful towards my other investments if I'm the kid who doesn't, if I'm the investor that doesn't care about their children.

17:32So for that, I'm out. He's out. Okay. Well, let me tell you why. I will be buying 10 of them. Let me tell you why I'm the perfect partner. because i'm the only one that sees that the true value in this product is that it has literally no value whatsoever and that's why we need to do the most tech vc input thing ever which is we need to pivot we need it hard we need to pivot fast okay this thing is not a home assistant anymore that jar you put a drop of your blood in there and it'll tell you all the diseases you have healthcare we're gonna run we're gonna run with that for like a year pivot again digital currency Jar coin Jar with ice coin So if you want to go on this wild ride All you gotta do is sign a line We could stick with what we've got We'd make waves in the press The tweets would be crazy They'd do crazy numbers Picture the numbers Crazy numbers All those numbers are only a one second view time on the video But they are still numbers If we just make the first frame a really good frame.

18:38It could be like... This thing is a content goldmine. Who knows more about content goldmines than me? It's true. I could turn this thing into an ad. It's true. He loves being in advertisements. That's his big thing. As many households as possible. Boom, flip the switch. It sells ads. It's everywhere. Yes, exactly. This is a no-brainer. Okay, all right, Marquez. Prints money. I'm interested in going... It'd be really interesting if you did all of the ads. For sure. Like if there's a little AI Marquez and you pop up in people's homes and you're like, maybe you should maybe you should buy underwear today yeah yeah i would sell out i would be the voice behind it my voice and my eyes all of america just had yeah giant marquez eyes in between marquez lips we're gonna get this thing in front of millions of people yeah this is this is pretty good i don't know i like i definitely like the idea of going after health care and then pivoting to just becoming a currency and then and then insolvency the blood testing thing it worked so well for elizabeth holmes not only did she never face any repercussions whatsoever but she's doing it again yeah you know yeah i think the question is do i want to be a villain in america or do i want to be a villain and then flee america you're not thinking big enough do you want to be a villain in america or do you want to be a villain in prison all right i think i'm going to be America's next big villain, Sharks.

19:59I'm going with Marquez. Pleasure doing business with you. Pleasure. I can't believe I missed this one. Pleasure. Thank you very much. Oh, wow. That's a really good render. Dude, I hate to say I probably would actually buy this if this was just like a Google Home that I could like have stuff on top of it. The left one, I see like a rabbit stacked on top of like a dock or something. It does look like a rabbit with a jug. But I'm sure it's bigger than the rabbit. We have another genius innovative inventor coming soon. But first, we need a quick word from our investors, aka the people who sponsor this podcast.

20:38So we'll be right back after this quick break.

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22:58Hello, Sharks. Hello, Vin. He's got something under a cloak here. Whoa, a physical product. Or is it the cloak? Oh, I thought it was the... I think most people have a presentation, but I have for you today a physical product. Oh. Okay. not just the prototype it's final production oh final production this is good this is gold it's under a gold uh cloak i would say of sorts fabulous yes welcome welcome to the wait i can't hear you yet oh welcome to the eel pit my my voice only goes in there there you go welcome to the eel pit uh take it away tell us about your your product or your company well you know we all have something important going on in our lives Andrew you have a kid I do Marquez you're an athlete you play ultimate frisbee this is a fact Adam you collect a lot of cool he's not an investor forget about it but I just wanted to include him you got to be nice thank you uh Ellis with the McVibes with the weird camera brands this is true You're a weird camera band guy.

24:08I'm a weird guy. And so I think we need to capture the moments around us. Sometimes people do it with photos. Well, how about video?

24:25Maybe you're shooting something crazy like weddings or F1 races or even birds. so uh marquez i'm gonna have you uh do the grand reveal okay perfect i will do that i thought it was astro bot at first it could be it still could be introducing the ned nonstro 8k nice nice um i don't think you've seen that logo before like it's it's a new company brand new you guys have heard of nikon this is uh nikon nikon right yeah australians like to say it that way this is ned it's a beautiful and i'm camp camera i believe it is this is a video camera but it's the 8k is good enough that you can take stills from it you mean nate k yes perfect you want to you want to be on the team you're trying to be an investor i think i was made for this project bro i think i got one Oh my god, okay, so for audio listeners who can't see, we have a very carefully modified Red Monstro.

25:31No, no, no, no. Excuse me, we have a totally stocked, straight from factory, Ned Nonstro, where you would normally find an R. It has been carefully replaced, excuse me, not replaced, created from scratch with an N in place. Correct. Is that white Sharpie? Is that crayon? Silver Sharpie. silver sharpie it's a tasteful it's a familiar body style but i don't think anyone has made something quite like this yet clearly not yeah yeah no no i i like this a lot so i shoot a lot with um i forgot the name this other camera that i use uh doesn't matter but like blue or something yeah something some color whatever but like i'm i'm very familiar with this world and so i see a lot of a lot of useful parallels here uh what kind of what kind of mount is on this uh it's actually a z mount it's um based off of the research it is the most used um lens mount that we have found i like research it can come with a pl mount if you're an amateur okay right right yeah yeah no i like that uh material choices i mean this thing is rock solid it looks like there's carbon fiber everywhere there's your favorite carbon is my favorite i think that's a that's a really important distinction here uh yeah oh media wise ssds is that what's happening over here yeah they uh use magazines magazines magazines magazines nice yeah i'm liking what i'm seeing so if right off the bat i gotta ask you know uh with traditional box style cameras like this like birds out of the question never gonna happen as soon as a bird sees that camera it's running for the hills no it it thinks it's a bird house it thinks it's a bird yeah exactly it's meant to blend in with the environment so but i i gotta ask what's up with the autofocus on this bad boy because that is essential to shooting birds it has z-mount the notto focus notto focus yeah but not that's what it has it has i think it has the not part pretty down pretty good notto focus yeah i think that satisfies your question i have a couple questions in the um competitor scene a lot of things that plagues that scene are slow boot up times uh bad not faulty ports but poor working ports hdmi you know external monitors not good the range of accessories are very expensive is this doing anything to solve those issues uh actually it's a feature um because you know if you pick up a camera and it doesn't work it's basically like an anti-theft system built into itself that it probably also could be an anti-theft system in the fact of it is the weapon to prevent the theft yes of itself yes yeah easily convertible you'll get some really good looks at tsa so uh pricing wise what are we looking at how does it fit in with its competitors you know pricing is based off of a subscription model actually so uh we went with the adobe approach genius this is going to be such a profitable product yeah i really think you've set yourself up for success fin it's got the it's got the uh there's branding everywhere there really is branding every time i look at it i find new branding opportunities and i feel like they're fully capitalized on you could check the bottom too let's check the bottom yeah oh yes ned digital cinema correct so rings just rolls right off the tongue i like it i'd like to step in as my first pitch for why i should be your partner for this oh i think every i mean everything is covered here this is a tried and true model all we really i mean like the easiest way forward here even though one of my partner uh not partner um competitor investors is big in the youtube scene and has made cameras like this popular we don't need him anymore it's it's very obvious to get to the the influencer market we just need some some good strategy for that what we the way i think we could really make some money here is there's one thing that is not on brand and that is the v mount we need to create n mount i think you're right i think a proprietary proprietary and mount battery with half the size twice the price and it's pretty hard to not shoot for the moon at that point yeah i like so that that is my pitch to you i think it is a great idea i maybe they'll have some An N-mount with like a 60 millimeter flange distance that you can't use any lens, even if with an adapter, it's out of the question.

30:07Flange is a good word, yes, we like that. I meant for the battery, not for the lens. But we could also... We could flange anything you want. Yeah, the battery has a flange distance. The cards have a flange distance. Picture that, an SD card that's like 60 inches long. Yes. All right, but let me tell you why I'm the man for the job here, okay? When people think Ellis Roven, They think nonsense. I'm known for my nonsense. But I'm not known for my other amazing qualities, like lollygagging, faffing about, tomfoolery. Those are big words. All of which I think are qualities in this camera. I think I embody everything this camera is about, which is being totally worthless and very silly.

30:49I think you might be right. So it's a no-brainer having me on this project because the innate qualities that make me me will be able to communicate to the consumer what this whole thing is about. In fact, I think I already am Nellis. I think I ceased being Ellis years ago. You're gonna change your government name? And I bid Nellis for quite some time. I would, to take this on. See, that's where I stepped in. Because I think I would be the perfect partner here because the branding opportunity is so obvious. When you turn around this camera and you see NED, everyone is gonna remember that, especially the N.

31:24And I think I've been associated with an acronym for so long that it presents a beautiful rebranding opportunity, NKBHD. Oh, you're Narquez. And from that moment on, I will be intertwined, associated permanently with this brand and this camera. And I can push it to the masses, I promise you. It's true. And it's, you know, you haven't been permanently associated with a camera brand yet. Like this is the opportunity. Yeah. I don't know if I can compete with that. Yeah, Canon could never. Yeah. I don't think so. nanon doesn't roll off the tongue doesn't work doesn't work but this is the rebrand that it deserves does it work in final cut uh proprietary software crashy hopefully uh only on wednesdays oh nice yeah man i mean i'm used to that that's perfect it's a timed crash it's a right taking taking yeah we all we all need rest you know everyone has a sleep schedule and i think cameras could also have a sleep schedule i'm really into that you know people always say electric cars they don't have enough range but the human body can only go so far driving before it needs to pull over and i think that's also true about editing i should have a timed out crash every 12 to 45 seconds and that's the type of thing that sort of eliminates fatigue keeps you refreshed you jump back in final cut starts again good work life balance right it's good it's good repetition is the fastest way to expertise and if you have to redo the last 10 cuts before auto saved over and over and over again you're going to be an expert in no time yeah you you've really like hit the nail on the head vin like there is this problem in the camera landscape bird cinematography specifically well i think there's just a problem with the camera landscape in general but they're all too good like yeah and consumers are asking they're like i want a bad camera that we need to dumb things that where is that bad camera that doesn't work and here you are about to bring it to market no notes yeah so you've got three offers on the table then uh which which direction would you like to go can i phone in a friend why not adam adam chat what do we do can i take like a little bit of all three is that is that a legal move that's happened on shark tank okay we're all partnering you are allowed to pick more than one partner what yeah like some polygamous type you can just you can combine them all if you think if you think we'd work together well that would be up to you america the beautiful you know what i'm taking all three perfect three offers accepted yeah boom this is a first on shark we all agree ned 2 is just a smaller box that uses ai to create all of the video yeah absolutely right sure okay ai integration is a very good uh yeah i think we're we're great good market yeah we are we are positioned for the future gentlemen it's been a pleasure thank you partner thank you we're gonna make so much money after this i'll see you or you know we're far away but it doesn't the deal doesn't count unless you shake hands oh yeah you know you obviously haven't watched you have to yeah this This is a big part of securing the bag.

34:34The anime sword sound right here. And that makes it official. Three for three. Incredible. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We will move on for our next contestant. Please never take that tape off. All right. Next up, Alex.

34:57Oh. This is intense music. I've never seen Shark Tank so this is what I just I like listen to a few seconds of the music and was like this is kind of it it's not as intense this feels more Dragon's Denny even though I've never seen Dragon's Den but just calling Dragon's Den for sure Alex welcome to the tank the eel pit we appreciate it's electric in here

35:26100 % of business please all right walk us through it what have you what are you presenting to us today all right so let me pull up a little presentation here perfect in a world where companies keep trying to make our phones minimal are you saying this because i literally have the minimal phone no this has been in the works for well before you decide to make a video about it but we've seen the light phone light who wants that the books palma hey that's goaded you're you're gonna hate this i don't need your money pal the palm phone yeah less coded right and whatever that is the punk i've never even heard of that i hadn't either i had to find a fourth phone though companies have been trying to make our our lives more minimal and that's when well you know what let me let me show you guys a little something first i i think we need to go the other direction we need to start maximizing our content consumption and many places have tried and failed we had the red hydrogen one could have been the best consumption device ever it had 3d or something i have fond memories of that yeah great great device we had the surface duo another two whole screens but didn't didn't quite nail it not quite we've got the huawei what is this the mate xt that is the triple triple folding phone we're getting closer we're getting warmer uh-huh okay but we're not quite there i see a trend here and then of course the most beautiful baby oh wow the lg wing yeah for maximizing consumption but still not quite there but that it is funny that i should bring that up because a long lost hero is ready to emerge from the depths from their premature death and that is the fire there's a fire you are back and better than ever i am a top secret operative sent here by lg to pitch you on the latest in phone technology because lg is ready to make their return after far too long on the sidelines five five years by my count yeah yeah oh yeah this is 2024 ai this has been sitting around for a year it's good all right uh so funny so without further ado i would like to introduce after three very long periods after the introducing the lg maximalist phone whoa it's time to it's time to stop minimizing and start maxing it has crazy it has a dynamic island on the back of the phone or it has cameras on the front of it yeah true it might have both let's wait and see ready let's talk about it so tell me about this maximalist phone so what are phones well we gotta we gotta get existential first what are phones in 2025 an iPod, a phone, an internet communicator.

38:35No, they're not. Not anymore. Then what are they? Phones are literally everything. Oh, that's true. They're our way of communicating with the world. Yes. They're how we do our jobs. Often true. They're our camera to take and preserve beautiful memories. Factual. They're the place where we go to leave mean comments on YouTube videos. often while pooping several times today there are brains there are creativity oh my god they're our best friends this is a joke but like we get emails that phone companies like maybe it was for me you don't know i might be consulting they're also our lovers sometimes anyway but as a society we're too far gone to remove ourselves from our phones without our phones we would literally die so what we need to do is get more involved in our phones we don't need less we need the lg maximalist phone so i'm going to tell you all about yeah please tell me what makes this so maximal so we're building here at lg on a history of adequacy and engineering i just want our audio listeners to know the pauses in this is because every piece of text blurs into the presentation and alex did this a year ago let me remind you of such great and adequate phones it's the lg double play from 2011 that's real that's a real phone that's incredible wait this is a phone with a split keyboard a slide up and an extra app screen in the middle of the split keyboard before android i think oh that is android that one is android yeah it's like android 3 or 4 but what about also the lg g8 x thing q from 2019 what a beautiful feat of engineering that was and then of course in marquez's hands right now the lg wing from 2020 we need to do a revisit lg video sorry We did already do that.

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40:51Check out the studio channel. Dead smartphone tier list video. Thank you. All right. Next. Oh, which is where MKBHD gave that phone a C tier. Big time for the aftermarket sales of LG Wings. So what is a maximalist phone? So it's everything you've ever dreamed of doing on your phone in one place. Gambling? Yes, of course. It's the only device you'll ever need. It's your all-in-one entertainment solution. It is the most productive device ever. Your all-knowing AI friend. And the Maximalist phone guarantees that you will never have more fun spending entire days glued to your phone screen. As we all should be.

41:30Thank you, production. So this is the LG Maximalist phone. Ooh, round of corners. It's got a 6.9-inch display. Very nice. Nice. It's got the Snapdragon 10 Elite. We jumped two whole dragons for this phone just for you guys. Two terabytes of RAM. 10 terabytes of onboard storage, a 500 megapixel main cam, 40 megapixel telephoto, 100 megapixel periscope telephoto. Take that, Samsung. And a 25 megapixel selfie cam, all powered by a 3 ,250 milliamp hour enormous battery. But that's just a rectangle. It's just a rectangular phone for those listening, not watching. It just looks like a phone. It's pretty boring.

42:15There's got to be more to this, right? That's where you fold this baby out and in partnership with tik-tok. Oh my god You can now have tik-tok running on your left-hand screen and keep being productive on your right-hand screen Because if you've ever worried that you can't content max while you're over sharing your entire life to your 347 tik-tok followers, you don't have to worry about that anymore. You can live Okay,

42:41I have a quick question. Yes, assuming I literally could not care about being productive whatsoever Sure. Could I just have two TikTok separate feeds on each screen and like sort of scroll them separately with my two thumbs? You could have two TikToks. You know, I'm not legally allowed to say this. Thanks for our contract. But you could even have YouTube shorts on one and TikTok on the other. Right. Or perhaps Instagram. But maybe we'll get to that in a little bit. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. But what about your many successful businesses? If you do want to be productive, there needs to be more room for productivity because you might want to.

43:13You're stopping at two screens? You have no faith in this presentation. You don't. You don't. Because that's where our next feature comes in. In partnership with Microsoft 365, we've added our third screen, which gives you everything you need. Word processing, calendars, emails, presentation software. You can have a very mid-adequate version of all of them in one with the Microsoft 365 5 suite our exclusive partner for productivity on the lg maximalist phone so you could be tick tocking you can be texting and you can be emailing teams and you could be let me tell you we're excited to announce ellis oh no that these transitions

44:00microsoft teams is the official messaging partner of the lg maximalist phone you're really you're pushing the adequateness of this phone. This is going to be the most adequate giant phone you've ever had in your life. Yeah. Let me tell you. So Microsoft Teams, we want you to be part of our team. And that's why we've made Teams the official messaging partner of the LG Maximus phone. But it's not quite enough yet because we have an homage to our sweet baby, the LG Wing. You fold out that fourth screen on the bottom. For those of you listening and not watching, we now have three screens. one two three with a fourth one that folds out from the bottom in the center does it fall out or swing out something like that we're figuring it out that's a great question i'm glad you asked it anyway uh so you fold out the fourth screen and suddenly you're in lg wing mode you if you just like you've ever looked to your phone and you're like man i wish i could be watching a full screen video up top here while i'm texting and being productive on the bottom well here you go.

45:04You don't have to worry about that anymore with LG wing mode on the LG maximalist phone. But typing on a screen, it's very passe. It's very 2010s of us to be typing on a screen. So that's why we have a best in class exclusive collaboration with Blackberry with a nice little slide out keyboard from that bottom screen. Now you can tap out messages to your heart's content on those sweet little chicklets get all those emails important texts everything out me and youtube comments the center of gravity on this thing is wild but it's amazing yeah for the audio listeners just to keep you up to that we have three a row of three screens on top and then one center screen on a bottom row that sort of forms a thor's hammer type shape and then below that bottom screen is a blackberry style keyboard exactly so if at that point you're typing on the blackberry keyboard you have two thumbs and all of your weight on yeah the bottom maybe five percent of this phone does it come with like a neck strap that you can like attach to like have faith it's actually weighted quite well once you see what else we have in store here balanced it's remarkably balanced uh let's let's move on because you're still not maximizing your consumption just yet and that is where our collaboration with instagram comes in two more foldable screens on the bottom I'm giving you a whopping six total screens of real estate so that you can view Instagram the way that it's meant to be viewed in Instagram mode.

46:33It's the latest and greatest way to rot your brain with endless hours of doom scrolling. You get it just the way Zuck intended. Nice square form factor, minimal oversight, maximum ability to get yourself addicted to and or buy things. And it's on the biggest screen you possibly can for Instagram right now. Sounds like a moneymaker. It is. Absolutely. That's very important. Very important. this is shark tank after or the eel the eel farm or whatever eel pit just go with that all right but that's still not all because what about more important things like gaming and movies well the lg maximalist phone has everything you could ever want in a phone that's right what we've got we're at 10 screens now we have 10 full that is that a bitcoin ticker on the top of it.

47:20That is the official crypto.com stonk tracker up top. So whenever you're doing anything, you can always know that you can check your stonks. Is that a Stadia controller? Hold on. Just a moment. I did forget to put a piece of text on the side here and the producer forgot to bring in my updated presentation that I sent him. But this totals out to now a 20-inch screen to watch critically acclaimed movies like The Wild Robot. great for all audiences anyone who says otherwise you deserve to get hated on the internet next the Fujifilm X100LIV pop up selfie camera I don't know what those I don't know what those letters mean they didn't tell me what number that is so we're just going to call it the LIV actually no they're going to randomly change how this is read now it's now the X100LIV pop up selfie camera we made this specially with them to make sure that you have the best pop-up selfie camera, just in case the stock 25-megapixel sensor is not quite enough.

48:23And then, of course, if you want a content max, you need brain audio, ear-murdering surround sound, which pops out from four parts of the screen on both sides, ear-murdering surround sound to take care of all you there. Then we got the Stadia controller redesigned. The last one was a little too modern-looking. we've used the Xbox the Duke controller as our inspiration for this perhaps the most that looks like the Discord logo in 3D it kind of does maybe it's a Discord controller I think it's just the Discord logo if they made it into an actual controller call it that actually we're selling the rights to Discord as we speak thank you for thank you for bringing that up Stadia you're gone Discord you're in and finally you might be wondering what those things are at the bottom any guesses any guesses one of them looks like a opal webcam kind of looks like those like scent that scent box that we had here a little bit this comes with 4dx immersive viewing built into your phone you never thought you'd be able to smell the wild robot but that oil smell is going to be coming right in your nose as you're watching it's going to feel great so this is it we're good and the best part is it's infinitely pocketable weighing in at just four inches thick this this phone a block of chips this phone is the most pocketable phone you could ever hope to experience in your entire life without further ado this is the lg maximalist phone this is incredible i just want to make sure you partnered with yeah brain yeah fujifilm crypto.com google stadia maybe discord we haven't decided maybe maybe Discord.

50:07Maybe both. Teams, Instagram, TikTok. What was the camera one? Uji Film. I think that was it. We have set eight brand partnerships going on. Is there even room for us at this point? Yeah. This was my concern actually. I was hoping I would get a camera partnership and a speaker partnership and we did get that. But each one of those deals actually takes a little bit off of your bottom line. So I'm curious how your margins are going to work out giving a few percent to each of these partners. Whoops. That's a great question, and I'm glad you asked it. Yeah. Incredible. Moving on. All right. So does anyone else have any questions?

50:44Does it have NFC? Yes, of course. Of course. All right. All right. Well, look, see, I feel like I'm an interesting candidate because as some people might know, I'm sort of a minimalist phone guy. In fact, again, once again, I'm literally being tortured by the minimal phone right now as we speak. So as someone who is afraid of brain rot and maybe needs a little bit of convincing that I should be rotting my brain more. What would you say to a consumer like that? How would you convince them to melt their brain with Zuck's poison? Think about all the happiest moments in your life. They're all probably on Instagram, obviously, right?

51:22Fair. Good point. Yeah. In fact, I don't think I've ever been happy when not on Instagram. I mean, when are you happy when you're not consuming content? It's true. It's so true. Why would you go hike in the woods when you could see it in brilliant HDR right in front of your face? You know, it's funny. when I'm at the movie theater, sometimes I watch the whole movie through my phone's camera just so I can put it in a vertical aspect ratio. And then you can like pause it at various times, get minute and a half consumable bits of the movie. I think that's really the better way to go. Well, look, I'm a huge fan of LG.

51:52I use an LG TV at home that I love. I use a lot of LG products. And so this just feels like the next big thing. So I'm in. I don't know if I have much to offer as a venture capitalist. I mean, it seems like, frankly, the biggest tech companies in the world are already funding this project. But if you want a goober like me on board, I mean, I'm right here. Look, really, we just love money. That's fair. I love that. So more of it is better. Yeah, of course. Here's where you should choose me. Okay. To my left, we have someone who notably has not been the nicest to folding phones in the past. You know, some say the Surface Duo, some people on Reddit might say the Surface Duo is dead because of this man to my left.

52:36And we can't take that risk. He doesn't want to mess up his good name. There's lots of other reviewers out there who will be out to get us because this is LG, a brand that I love. But I know all of the tech reviewers except for one or two are out to get LG because they have a personal vended against them. No other reason why they could have failed. and they failed because of those because of that we often say that in the office I'm glad she brought it up we talk about it often it's a known fact I like that we're bringing it back I have a content strategy for how we bring it to these reviewers

53:1437 embargoes each one of these screens needs their own embargo because we need to produce we need to show the incredible form factor before we show that there could be a couple, we'll call them hiccups in the software process of this. Lots of different, you know, we've got a lot of integrations here. Those don't always mesh right away. And we probably won't solve those till about four or five software updates after consumers already have this in their hand, but they don't need to know that and the reviewers don't need to know that. But we can promise them that we will. Exactly. So we need, Embargo One is pre-order day.

53:50Okay. Straight off the bat, no screens turned on, one full one screen unfolding external shots only perfect yeah and then we'll slowly unfold each screen one by one through the embargoes it'll probably be seven to eight months worth of embargoes before they can do their full review well after the 30-day refund policy and that's how we sell this bad boy and we bring back lg with a vengeance because it is a vengeance to all the tech reviewers out there who killed them in the first place i agree this this whole thing is about revenge and i'm glad that you uh i'm glad you saw that and um yeah recognize yeah andrew would you be willing to go in with me on that deal i think you know it would be a good uh like comeback story of marquez being on lg's good side yeah exactly that's what i'm thinking i'm thinking the big headline is that I've changed my tune and I'm a big LG fan.

54:53Now, question, would you be open to signing a deal where that's put in writing and we can sue you for many millions of dollars if you don't say that? And we don't disclose that deal And we don't disclose that to anybody. Nobody. I would say yes if I also get to add partners as well. Okay. Yeah, add as many as you want. You love partnerships. Yeah, I like that. But give me a pitch right now. Who do you know? You got all the connections. I was thinking you could have an AI partner. Oh, absolutely. Something like that. I was thinking you could have a couple other partners in the software department.

55:26Obviously, the cameras. You can almost stack partnerships. Maybe one partnership for the ultrawide camera, one partnership for the telephoto camera. We had a 3 ,200 million power battery in there. I think you can get two or three partnerships just on the battery. Fast charging by Oppo. I think there's a lot of room there. So I'm liking this. I like where you're thinking. I did have one partnership. Question. So I noticed that the official crypto broker of this phone is Crypto.com, who also happens to be the jersey sponsor of the best basketball team in the Mid-Atlanta Conference. That's a terrible question.

55:57I'm sorry you asked it. So when are we getting the official Joel Embiid Philadelphia 76ers collab partnership? Unfortunately, that's the B-tier Crypto.com partnership. And the A-tier one is the Crypto.com arena in Los Angeles. We will actually be wrapping the entire crypto.com arena in LG Maximalist phones, though, as a promotion. I do. I do have one other idea for, you know, further along in this partnership between us. Maybe Marquez. We need to look at the budget market. And I think there's opportunity for the LG Maximalist A. Okay. Further down the line. Maybe five screens, plastic everything.

56:40We'll take away wireless charging. I actually didn't see it. a 47 megapixel camera instead of a 50. I think there's the opportunity. The number one rule of the LG maximalist phone is if you are wondering if it has the feature, it does. Does it have a DAC? Yeah. Headphone jack? Sure. Stereo speakers? Well, you saw. I mean, yeah, absolutely. It is stereo speakers. How's the low light performance on the camera? Because with 50 megapixels, the photo sites are going to be really small. I think it was 500 megapixels. 500 megapixel main sensor. It's binning down to 50. Yeah. Yeah. No notes. no notes yeah okay you know alex um i love what you're putting down but i think without a philadelphia 76ers integration i just don't think i could co-sign this you know that's okay i was really just here for him that's yeah the headline the headline marquez brownlee single handedly resurrects lg mobile is that's gonna hit man that's what i'm thinking yeah yeah it's like uh it's like yeah you know what never mind i was trying to think of a movie where someone kills someone and then brings them back to life but i couldn't that's a book yeah i love that book yeah i'm reading it on my minimal phone nice yeah no i'm i'm thinking i'm thinking we can collab on this i bring the partnerships and the headlines you're the media and the media aspect i can get this in front of reviewers you've got i can hear the strategy coming from from all angles on this phone i think we can hit every single feature in every single market we have a timeline we can get an A-series version out.

58:08I think the three of us are going to make something pretty magical here. Hey, Ellis here. In the future. Sorry for the interruption, but all of my co-hosts decided to use this time to talk smack about the Philadelphia 76ers, which I just can't let happen, you know? I'm mixing this episode. I get to decide what makes it in. And so, yeah. Anyway, back to the show. Thank you, thank you. I'm slowly realizing that you know this is an idea that kind of got thrown together for the podcast the thing that's the hardest is they're all tech products and everyone wants Marques to be their partner for the tech product alright we've got another set of partnerships in the works that was really fun we're going to take a quick break and come back with one more from Adam

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1:01:30Oh. Stone-faced. Oh, now I hear the music. Okay. It is weird walking over here to silence. Not hearing music. Yeah, I'm not hearing anything. Adam, welcome to the eel pit. I'm ready. We are all ready for your presentation as well. Yeah, this has been a long time coming. Buttons are back, baby. That's what it's called. I'm interested. I knew you would be, but all right, hear me out. the problem with today's tech it's too abstract everything is hidden behind screens taps tones you know like there's no oomph anymore i don't feel anything when i'm using these phones pro phones are all the same color app uis look all the same we're not using all of our senses with modern technology you know we're only using a few of them like sight and sound uh when you tap your screen it just vibrates to like simulate the motion we play music out of crappy tiny speakers and think that's okay on subways but what about all of our other senses there's so many other senses i'm just a little confused because you mentioned sight sound and touch so the other sentences are taste and smell and the sixth sense no yeah just taste and smell it's just that it's actually just that movie the solution bubbles whoa what i have bubble wrap for you guys if oh wait no not bubbles never mind buttons we want buttons and switches and knobs and so i present to you the i tab can you explain what you are looking at right now uh i see you cannot if a normal The whole smartphone is a slab with a glass screen and two or three buttons on the sides.

1:03:15This is a screen surrounded by many buttons, knobs, and switches and other things, a kickstand, a thermometer, a knob, an antenna, and it's looking pretty maximal, I might say. Yeah, wait, let me, it's sort of like picture, kind of looks like an old school radio, like an old school like portable radio but there's an evf on top there's like is that what that is there's a compass in the top right correct then there's like the dial pad from like a kitchen landline phone there's a tape transport at the bottom uh is that a physical eject button next to the transport so we're gonna get there because i want to know what you're rejecting on the right there is a full mercury thermometer yeah okay and a kickstand and then an antenna sticking out of the top what if I told you this was just a case that screen in the middle is an iPad it's that big or iPad mini I think like the best does this not look like it would be like if you were playing a video game like Firewatch or something and you had like the central menu screen they wanted to make it more immersive so like he held this like device up every time you needed to get this is what it would look like yeah that that is how i would describe it or like something you ever play the game astro near no all right great cool good story guys no i can already agree with you oh look who knows how to use the sound buttons alex is okay so this is a case for an ipad you put the ipad in that is the screen right there as marquez plays with the bubble wrap.

1:05:02And it gives your iPad all of this extra functionality with buttons and everything. It also lets you touch, taste, and smell your tech. You see that little grip on the side? That's not just the grip. It's also the smell-o-vision. It's like one-time use because you have to refill it after every time you use it. But it can do it. The iTab case. Hardware apps include compass radio screen recording calculator temperature walkie-talkie camera ai assistant naturally the specs telephoto lens physical viewfinder 48 megapixel main sensor the exposure control are all controlled by knobs love that built-in kickstand and an insane battery capacitive this is a collab from teenage engineering and mischief i noticed there's some asterisks yeah it was my follow-up question there are some asterisks yes what okay okay so so i see the the the asterisk after ai assistant correct and insane battery capacity what uh what do those asterisks mean adam i'm so glad you asked marquez so the ai assistant asterisk refers to the fact that you need to dial into an fm radio station in order to use this ai assistant it's a one-way technology the ai will just constantly be spouting advice over broadcast oh so you can't query it you cannot query it it just gives you what it thinks you should do okay and then so the asterisk asked after insane battery capacity because yes i love the idea for the fm radio ai assistant because if you were not spending tokens is that what you use in ai We're not, you know, we're not destroying the world through too much over.

1:06:54We're not destroying the world with the overuse of AI and servers and graphics cards. We just kind of have one that's going on. It's the most environmentally friendly. It is the one AI for all of humanity. It will just be broadcasting. Kind of like Overlord vibes. I kind of like it. Kind of. Adam, I'm sorry. I really don't want to just like tear this thing apart, but I got to, we got to dive. By all means. First of all, this dial pad, right? Yes. There's two zeros on it. There are. What feature does this unlock for the user? When you press the second zero, it's just the number 10. What happens when you press the X?

1:07:29When you press the X, that's a custom function. It does all the numbers. Zero through 10. All right. Interesting. In between the compass and the side dial pad, there appears to be what is either an incandescent light or a second. but smooth dial pad. It is a smooth dial pad. It's a smooth dial pad. That's how you change functions on the iPad itself. Okay. Yeah. All right. All right. Okay. I think I'm starting to understand. Is there an FM radio? There is an FM radio. That's how you tune in to the AI. Right, right, right, right. And that's what the antenna is for. All right. This is starting to make sense.

1:08:06So it is just a case. It's a case. There is a power button on it. There is a power button. So is that the power for that? For the case. because iPads don't, like you can't just like run all the battery. It would just drain it. So it needs its own power source. So this is totally up my alley. I love these sort of expanded use products like this, but I will say my favorite thing where I think you've really outdone yourself is that Chrome kickstand. Yeah, buddy. Man, does that look sweet. And it folds all the way back. On this thing. A la Microsoft Surface. Like it just goes. Switch. Yeah, exactly.

1:08:38And switch. I like it. I like it. Marquez, you don't look impressed. My favorite part is the Mercury thermometer with no readouts on the side to tell what temperature it is. It's real Mercury, too. Awesome. Just in case you're wondering. Is that a Mercury? Now I feel like I got to look back. I thought that I said Mercury thermometer. Then I was like, I thought that was the one with the marbles. No, that's Mercury. I'm pretty sure that's the Mercury one. The glass ones with the liquid inside. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a Mercury thermometer. Yum. So, Adam. Adam Adam Adam Adam we're trying to put this on shelves right this is a consumer product that has Teenage Engineering and Mischief two of the hottest design firms around right now what is your pitch to the consumer hype baby you could be the person walking around holding this oh that's what you think this is not an at home product no no this is a like big red boot kind of product I think whoever gave Marquez bubble wrap was a terrible idea I think the reason you shouldn't partner with Ellis is because he's asking questions like how do we market this it's with teenage engineering and mischief marketing is done the marketing is done already there's almost no point in doing this in fact the only way to sell this is through a lottery system on a temporary website that self destructs in less than 24 hours and through that website you actually just get mailed a physical raffle ticket.

1:10:11And if you are one of the numbers on that raffle ticket, then you are able to buy a box of Boy Scout Girl Scout cookies that includes the actual device side of it. Not Girl Scout cookies. Boy Scout brand Girl Scout cookies. Correct. It's like a Jozo's sort of situation. Got it. Okay. Yeah, I like that. That's interesting. I could see that. I think that's how we sell it. And then it's done. That's all we need. Yeah. No, this is a fully formed product. There's only 50 of them. Yeah, naturally. Profit margins are 10 to 50. Is there only a telephoto lens? There's only a telephoto lens. But there is a viewfinder so you can see it.

1:10:49So it's for bird photography. Yeah, yeah. Anything close enough to it will be paying too much attention to owl hosts and the cases. Why would you want to take a picture? What is wrong with our coworkers that 50 % of the products brought in were designed by Teenage Engineering and 50 % of the products brought in were specifically for bird photography? nothing says hype like bird photography it's true and orange and orange i i have a couple questions okay so obviously there's a lot of physical controls and things going on here do you have a price that you're aiming to hit when the ships no no it's raffle only so there's no revenue no the revenue is all of the millions of people that will be buying a raffle ticket oh so how much does a raffle ticket cost however much you want you tell me investors how much is a raffle ticket Interesting.

1:11:35I think we let them name their own price. With a minimum, of course. Minimum$2. At least, yeah. Okay, that's one question. The other question was going to be, you have all these things attached to it, but I'm trying to see if there's anything patentable, protectable here that couldn't be copied by our competitors, because I could see an LG or an OtterBox coming out with something in this same category. And I'm curious if you could defend this. No one's patenting that number pad because it's inherently wrong. You probably should patent it just to make sure they don't copy it. But I'm curious. We have spent the last several months buying up all of the Mercury that is commercially available.

1:12:21So no one else can get Mercury. Big Monopoly energy, okay. i like that how much does it weigh it weighs roughly three pounds okay yeah so it is carry depending on the size because with or without the ipad you can put an ipad in it ipad pro ipad pro 13 inch ipad mini depends on which one you want it's universal yeah you thought about it for all of it there you go love that kickstand i don't know why the kickstand is sick and it folds all the way up and you can wear it like a clutch that kickstand is actually very similar to the kickstand on your oneplus keychron keyboard it is yeah it's like almost exactly the same all Adam, hear me out.

1:12:56I'm on board. And if you go with me, here's how we're going to do this. We're going to do the raffle idea. I think that's a really excellent way to distribute the product. Thank you. I brought that up. The problem with people who pay for raffle tickets is that if they don't win, they effectively get nothing. I never said they'd get nothing. They'd get a sticker. Aiden, let me finish. Okay. Which is why I think the purchase of a raffle ticket should be through a crypto coin, a meme coin. because that way we are still able to deliver consumers absolutely nothing, but they at least think they have something.

1:13:34What do I get out of it? Can I pull something at the end of this? A rug pull? So I can get... Well, that's the beauty of this whole thing is you won't even need to do a rug pull because you're already providing nothing whatsoever. People driving are just like flinching every day. sorry i should not have given marquez bubble right that's my bad uh yeah no i'm i'm in i would like to be your investor i think as uh you know someone who works in audio i'm really i could i'd be great at communicating teenage engineering products as someone who likes bad stuff um i'd be really excellent at communicating this that's true uh i'm literally using a phone with as many buttons on it right now um and loving every second of it and loving every second of it and um and yeah i just think i would be the perfect person to guide you towards capturing all of the market share for a a camping case i think is what this sort of is the hype a hype camping case the hypeest the hypiest are there any plans for supporting android tablets what's somewhere down the line oh yeah for that i'm out i'm i'm thinking i like this there's a couple things that i really like that I think I could bring value to.

1:14:53One is I think I could sell a ton of raffle tickets for you. And I think you can get this in front of a lot of eyeballs. Two, I just like the aesthetic of the product, the presentation, the dynamic island in the middle. Everything is just working for me. I meant the dynamic island in the presentation, not in the product. I just think that's great. On the screen. And then I think, yeah, there's a little bit of room for extra little design touches. and I think I was actually picturing a hype video that I would be able to make for you that's just ASMR. It's just sounds. It's me pressing the buttons with a microphone super up close in 8K and just hearing the way every button and everything sounds when you use it and I think that would be incredible.

1:15:34So I think I could do that for you and we'd be able to blow this thing up. So where's taste come in? What am I tasting as part of this? Whatever you want. Mercury right there on the side. Yeah, Mercury.

1:15:46You know? Alright. Sorry, I forgot to tell you, if you want to screen record too, there's a big orange button. You just press that and it starts screen recording automatically. Wait, what's the eject button? The eject button is because this is also a CD player. Where? On the side. On what side? It's somewhere in here. That's the asterisk. Does it come with an ashtray? How does it charge? USB-A or USB-C? Micro USB-C. Micro B, yeah. Micro B! I got... I mean, Adam, it's the kind of thing where it's like I have infinite notes and at the same time I have no notes and I just really hope, you know, we've produced this podcast together for many years now and I hope that you can, you know, parlay that trust into letting me guide this product to success.

1:16:43Even though I don't see the tape player and I don't really want to lick it. I still think... That'll change. I could fit that in the ASMR video. So you've got two offers on the table. Andrew is out for the lack of Android support out of the gate, but you have an offer from Ellis and an offer from myself. No, no, no. Andrew is out because of the Android support. I see, I see. Because if something is compatible with Android, it is inherently not hype. It's one of those things where you have such a good product and the minute you try and expand into all those things, it's just going to be a money pit and we're going to go out of business.

1:17:14and I don't want to watch my money go down the drain like that. Pop incoming. Bingo! Oh my god. Sorry, Ellis. I'm just going to replace every single bubble wrap pop with the sound of a cat meow. Meow! Meow! I just like that you gave me bubble wrap and I want to work with you more. Alright, you know, you guys have made this decision quite tough. Yeah. But I think I have to go with Ellis. Wow. Ellis, you know, I made this intentionally with the buttons and knobs with you in mind, and I know that we can take this to the next level. I think you and I, you know, I think you and I can take anything to the next level, Adam, but this...

1:17:56Except this episode.

1:18:03If I see an ASMR video on this, I'll be sending a fake copyright strike, you know. unfortunately i also have all of these scores in front of me so ellis now that you have two votes for you andrew also has two votes it would appear that the shark who got the most people to partner with them is marquez with three partnerships nice it's almost like it's his show or something i could have had it all i offered to lick the mercury it didn't even work but i would have gotten something there amazing wow that's that was fun i'm glad we did that i I think there is a world where this concept gets expanded in a future bonus episode.

1:18:47I don't know exactly what that looks like. I could see this as a like maybe Ted this. OK, so none of us on the show knew any of these things. Yeah. It obviously was very meme focused, which I think we had a really fun time doing. I could see a version of this show where like, do people think of like real things? We always hear like, wouldn't that be so cool if this had that? and maybe there is a version of this where we like pitch it a little more seriously look at our emails and it's literally like we like we get this in email form that would be a banger episode of just taking some of the worst emails don't name anyone and like going through some email don't name it i'm not gonna name it but if it feels too specific you know maybe cut this i got an email for a power outlet that has a credit card swiper in it so that if you're like Like at a coffee shop, you can like charge people to charge their laptop or whatever.

1:19:40Oh, wait, that's a good idea. No, it's not a good idea. That's a good idea. It's a stupid idea. If I own a coffee shop, that's what I'm doing. Yeah, this is enterprise. Why? It's for commercial. When you hand the bartender your phone, you're like, can you charge this? You'd be like, hand me your credit card and we'll make this happen. And you make so much extra revenue. Exactly. People would do it. You'd make some external, you'd make some revenue on top. People would 100 % do that. Yeah. That's a good idea. I'm going to email them and invest that is not a good idea that is not a good idea this is why I said yes to everything for a month for that video I think we should probably have to do that again sometime yeah if you listen to the end of this episode send Marquez an email soon because he'll be saying yes apparently but if you also made it this far thank you that was purely experimental and super fun I don't know how much fun it was to listen to let us know which product you liked the best please and huge shout out to David Fedderspiel again he made all these concepts a long time ago but I'm glad we finally got them out into the real world and we'll be back with a normal episode where I'm not at this table on Friday we'll miss you Paul thanks for watching see you guys later peace peace wave form is produced by Adam Aline and Ellis Irvin we're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our intro music is Vainso.

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This month we're trying something new! We had members of The Studio come in and try to pitch our craziest and most wild inventions to a panel of "Sharks" aka Marques, Andrew, and Ellis. It's a chaotic episode with even more chaotic inventions that we hope you'll find as entertaining as we did! Enjoy!

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