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33:57Unfortunately, right now these earbuds only work with the Xiaomi 15 and 15 Ultra. They said that it might come to more phones in the future that are using chipsets like the 8 Gen 3 or 8 Elite but for now only these two phones, which kind of blows. Got it. Does this feel kind of like Chromecast for earbuds? No, it's like Sonos for earbuds. I mean, Chromecast is also like you pick it on one thing and then send it to X other device and then it's still pulling from the internet. Yeah. Chromecast audio. I think the tech is really cool. I'm struggling to picture a scenario where I'm listening to music on my earbuds and my phone is not with me.

34:40I do this all the time. Oh, is it going for a run or something? No. Well, you need Wi-Fi on the run. Right. So you want to control the music, but you don't have your phone. If I'm charging my phone in the other room because it's low battery but i want to do some stuff in other parts of my apartment but i'm like lonely and can't like deal with life without audio playing back in my head 24 7 same you're outside of bluetooth range of your phone yeah because i live in a railroad apartment where there's like walls every five feet sure and they're made of um and so that really toxic material wait is this building like outside right well the building is debatable i guess yeah as long as the bluetooth but the buds sorry as long as the buds have good controls to like yeah you know fine because you're just on whatever playlist you're on you can't really search for songs or well or can you i don't know maybe you can voice i think you do i can i think you can do voice commands same as you could do on regular your buds i'm basically picturing you have like a google home attached to your head that's basically what it is okay my question here is if you go to you're listening to something right you go to the room you plug in your phone yeah you're already listening to something can you just walk away and it'll switch to wi-fi or do you have to like go into the app select like the airplay icon when it chromecast icon when it notices your wi-fi network it just switches to wi-fi automatically because the wi-fi is actually more efficient yeah but will it like pause the audio or stutter or anything like that that's what i'm curious it'll probably acknowledge before oh like if you walk into your apartment if you're switching midstream good question but that's what i'm like that's a very minor to you my podcast cannot be interrupted Okay, up until recently, every time you would be streaming YouTube with your phone off, like the screen off, and then you turn the screen on and it started the video playback again, it would like stutter.

36:30Did you guys notice that? I don't think I noticed that. No. I think I've noticed. I've had a million problems with YouTube playback. Well, they fixed it recently. They fixed it recently where now you can unlock your phone and it just continues and it doesn't do the like, whoa. Anyway, I'm just like saying it's the same kind of thing. And while it's minorly annoying, it's not like the end of the world, you know? anyway i want this is this a real product this is a real product okay yeah it's coming out with the xiaomi 15 and 15 ultra which also launched recently so i'll keep an eye out for that okay cool beans all right well we got a lot more to get to obviously but before we do that we should take a quick break which means trivia

37:14just want to say i'm really proud of us for getting through that whole Nubia Music 2 segment and no one made the joke, wait, they made Music 2? That's funny. Sitting right there and we spared our audience. Anyway, forget about music. It's time for Music 2. We're going to ask a modular phone camera accessory attachment question. Project Aura? There goes the question. David already got it. Where's the point? No, I'm just kidding. we've seen plenty of these things over the years Marquez brought up the Hasselblad Zoom for the Moto Moto Z Moto G series it was bad droid not that one though we also want to give a shout out to the LG Cam Plus grip if you remember that thing the like battery grip yeah on the G5 G5 like a G5 that's right like that song.

38:15But... It's not Leica. Oh, true. It wasn't the Leica G5. It was the LG. We are on it today, boys. The very first... No way. You're right. David, two points. I'm sorry. Continue. No, the very first conversion lens, attachment conversion lens that ever came out for a phone came out in what year? I'm not going to ask for the phone because it was only available in Korea. But I would like to know the year that a smart, that, it's not a smartphone. I guess that'll give you a hint. The year a phone company was like, you need a wide angle slash tele lens conversion kit for your, and here I'll give you another hit, for your six megapixel camera.

39:02Damn. Six whole megapixels. I don't remember that. This is going to be before my time. I'm going to guess this came out before I was reviewing anything. Before 1993. Before I reviewed anything. I'm going to guess before Alice was born. Damn. Which is only like 13 years ago. Yeah. Exactly. All right. All right. Well, we'll think about that. The answers will be at the end, like usual. We'll be right back.

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41:48All right, welcome back. So this next segment is something that I've hidden from you, David. Andrew's already seen this, but it comes in this box. No, it doesn't. This is just a box that it got shipped to us in. What the Sigma? This is a Sigma camera. Remember last week we talked about the Sigma BF and we were all marveling about how cool it looked, but that it might not be ergonomic to hold? Now we get to find out. That was an extremely fast turnaround. You're not letting him open it? Oh, would you? Yeah. Wow. Okay, yeah, you should open it. Sorry, you open it. And I want your first impressions because as far as people in this office goes, you may be the one who has held the most cameras.

42:26That's probably true. And, you know, are familiar with camera ergonomics. so I would love you to open this box and give me your immediate impressions of the ergonomics of using this camera. Okay. Zoom in on my face. Oh. It's wrapped up. Oh my goodness. Oh no, it's not. Whoa. Okay. Interesting. These are some first impressions. Definitely front heavy. I'm glad that they put the little mini thumb grip on the back. That is handy. I got him. How do you turn it on? That's the first thing all of us struggled with. One of the five buttons is the power button. Oh, I don't tell. I won't. Oh, sorry. Never mind.

43:09He knows now. The one that looks like a record button is the power button? Yes. That's nice. Okay. Ooh. Okay. LCD is better than I anticipated. Sub-LCD is very cool looking. Okay. Have any of us used this outdoors yet? No. I don't think so. Because I don't know how this LCD does in sunlight. I started recording when I did that. How do you switch it to shooting mode instead of video mode? I think the three dots is mode. That's not. It is extremely hard to figure out. People have been comparing this design to teenage engineering a lot, or the sort of aesthetic. And this is exactly what it looks like when someone uses a teenage engineering product for the first time, too.

43:52Like, how do I use this? This is like it's beautiful, but I don't really know how to use it. I figured it out. Single capture. And then how do you look at the... Oh, it's playback. Okay. Ooh. Okay. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Okay. This is the perfect example for a teenage engineering. I'm confused. I'm confused. I'm confused. Ten seconds later, I'm elated. I am delighted by the quality of one shot already. Sure. The colors are really true to life, really accurate. The 24 megapixel seems totally reasonable. And actually, I am a proponent of lower megapixel, larger sensor. Which this is. Which this is full frame.

44:3424 megapixel frame. But I want to steer you a little bit back to the way that you're holding it. It's not focusing. And the way it feels slash like holds. Okay. Yeah. So you have to hold it by holding the lens with your left hand. otherwise it just doesn't work it's kind of sharp is it not oh yeah like the corners of it yeah they they rounded the bottom right corner a little bit but it's still sharp at the edge yeah um yeah that's a great point a lot of camera manufacturers try to make it so you can do most of the things with just one hand yeah uh this is not that you have to hold it with two hands and this is probably one of the smaller lenses can you do me a favor yes can you turn And the aperture dial?

45:18In front of the mic. Oh, it's so good. Do it in front of the mic so they can pick it up. Let's pick it up. Yum. It's nice. Oh, my goodness. And if you actually point it at the camera, they can see the aperture open and close. It's a nice little thing that they've done with this lens. Oh, my God. It's beautiful. Yeah. So the lens inside, it's a nice lens that we've got on it. It's also silver. So for those who are listening and you want to picture this, it's a full silver aluminum camera with a also full silver which also appears to be aluminum lens uh with a manual aperture ring that has clicked stops it's not i actually think this is a digital aperture ring with click stops sorry yes you're correct you change it and it takes a second it's kind of like a lag that's what i was just but when the aperture does open it's very smooth and beautiful which is nice oh god am i coming around at this so this is what happened to almost all of us here is the first impression was like wow this is a cold piece of metal yeah the second impression i don't know if you've noticed by now it starts to get a little bit warm like the entire aluminum body is a heat sink which is kind of interesting yeah and then you are reminded so it kind of comes back around you're like oh it's nice it's got this nice feel takes pictures well and then you're reminded of all the downsides that we talked about last week which is one no sd card slot internal storage only okay two that battery at the bottom yeah super proprietary right um you just gotta get more of those at least it comes out three no viewfinder so you have to use the screen for everything have you used it outside we haven't tried that yet okay and then four this is something you might not have noticed yet but those buttons on the back are not real buttons they are haptic no way really so turn the camera off and try pressing any of the buttons how do you turn it off again so that same power button hold it down which are like two seconds all right the record button's the power button.

47:05It turns off and then try pressing any of the buttons while it's off. They don't move. It's completely fake. That's crazy. Yeah. I didn't know that until I was like messing around with them trying to feel how clicky they were and the camera was off and I was like wait these are not real buttons. That is incredibly deceptive. So the haptics are actually good. It's just like the MacBook Pro touchpad. Very Apple like. Wow. That's like legitimately unbelievable. Yeah. I'm pressing it and I'm like no that's real and then I turn it off and it's not doing anything. Can you give it to Ellis? I haven't seen this yet.

47:34Pass it to Ellis. turn it on first well i think turn it on first so you feel it and then turn it off i will say i don't have that much of a problem with having to use two hands to take photos because uh i like cameras with aperture uh rings anyway yep and so i i'm usually holding it like this because i often change the aperture in order to take a thing a lot of cameras have added control ring a lot of lenses have added control rings yeah in the rf world especially i like that i do iris control with the ring on canon rf cameras ellis what do you think about the the fake button the record button is a real button no that's not a record button well you're turning the bottom button is the only real moving okay okay yeah oh really yeah oh and then the rest are fake okay what you felt it before right and it felt like this is the first time i've held this camera but what i'm saying is like did you just try when it was turned on pressing the buttons above the record button like what there's no way this is pretty unbelievable is the shutter button that's real that shutter button on top is a real shutter button okay it actually moves there is like a little bit of give to these like it's not like it's just i mean it's almost fairly solid dude you guys are not kidding this thing is sharp yeah like you could like grate a block of cheese or something i would kind of worry about having it like on a strap and having it knocking into things well boy do i have good news for you there's no lugs there is a strap lug on the right there's like a little like lanyard yeah lanyard lug yeah it is uh so i mean we haven't shot with it very much yet but i'll have a couple more observations one is the camera weighs about a pound without a lens on it okay it was funny i made a short about it and i was looking up things that weigh about a pound so can of soup is what i referenced in the video um and one of the top comments was like americans will use anything but the metric you're right it's a can of soup okay but how many micro meters or whatever does it weigh i don't know what is that kilograms how many kilograms is a pound it's one pound grams but it's 16 grams it's dense and it really feels like high quality like you're talking about like weight feels like quality oh my goodness and i don't know i i there's a lot of cameras that are this size like sony a6000 you can get a lot of good camera for this exact size of camera so if after just having a small compact camera that's this size you can get a great camera that's the battery weird battery yeah yeah that's true and so if you get an a6000 you have a viewfinder you have all the sony lens system you have uh you know 4k video great low light performance like you get a lot we also do have to note that the lenses are like two thousand i was just gonna say how much is that right yeah two grand uh i think you're right the camera body itself is two thousand and then the lenses are each in the range of several thousand dollars.

50:23There's a$2 ,000 lens. There's a$6 ,000 lens. There's some crazy lens. I'm telling you, this is like the poor man's Leica. That's what I'm saying. Which is crazy to say for that much money. Because of the price we just said. Yeah, well, Leica bodies are like$9 ,000 just for the body. But I just don't know. Leicas are bigger too, right? Not by a lot. Mostly because they have viewfinders. True. That's actually a lot of the size of it. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, I do have to say I am much more delighted than I thought I would be. Also, this sub-LCD screen that just does a lot of cool things, I'm very delighted by.

51:02And the shutter button feels really good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Dang. We got some nice shots out of it. We didn't get to see the black version. Yeah. I think it's safe to say the silver lens on silver body - Looks crazy good. Is so good, I can't imagine the black version being better. Yeah. Yeah. Sigma if you're listening send us all one I would like to I would like to play with one more more than just on this podcast I would like to play with one forever forever yeah I spent like a solid 30 minutes on Monday just like taking pictures with that thing and it was it was pretty fun I really want to like try this in the field yeah bring it to South by out here in the field I was just gonna say that I'll bring it to South by I'll let people see it yeah alright I'll bring it out there okay cool very cool so yeah just wanted to show that for a little bit.

51:48I will say, why didn't they make the lens cap silver? It's just black. That is really annoying. That is kind of sad. And you know, I didn't bring it, but there's another lens that had a magnetic lens cap. So it's not even like the pinched plastic. It's literally just a metal magnet lens cap. And you can put it on the back of an iPhone and it sticks to it like MagSafe. Except the 16E. That's true. Are we pro or anti-magnetic lens cap? I couldn't tell from that. I thought it was great. I'm pro as hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever, David, have you ever been on the subway and you try to take off like on the subway platform and you try to take off one of the pinchy lens caps and one finger slips and so the lens just goes well if that's in the tracks I hope not have fun with it rats surf on it and stuff yeah interesting well yeah I'm um consider me impressed consider me impressed alright very nice I don't know what else is impressive but I don't think they released anything else this week segways segway segways are impressive the new the new MacBook Air M4 dropping for less money than the last MacBook Air.

52:51Really? Alright. This is actually pretty cool. Pretty good announcement. So MacBook Air as we've reviewed the last couple and they have graduated to Apple Silicon and they've become very very easy standard baseline do you want a laptop? This is the one you should probably get type recommendations. And they'd been$999 for a while and then they bumped up I think around the M2 generation to 1099 base and they'd still continue to improve it i think it's doubled in ram it's 128 gigs of base storage now i think um which is 256 256 okay so these specs keep getting better it keeps getting more powerful this is an m4 update of the base macbook air and it's gone back down to 999 not for nothing that's pretty good like this is again like the sort of default mac that you can recommend to just about anyone who just needs a laptop to do basic stuff right uh it's funny because i end up reviewing these things and almost nobody buying a macbook air should get it to like edit videos or do anything crazy but the m chips are so good that you kind of can do that anyway totally can so we get to this weird place where i'm reviewing a macbook air and like trying video editing on it and it's like what am i doing here i guess i could do this but you don't really buy it for that yeah it's that capable i think this is another one of those laptops it's gonna have good battery life there's still a 13 and a 15 inch version it's just a solid solid laptop nothing amazing about the screen it's still a 60 hertz screen like nothing nothing's gonna blow you out the water it's just a solid base laptop you know what's my favorite thing about it it supports two external displays now yeah shout out to m4 that's two 6k external which is funny because like if you're doing a macbook air are you also doing two 6k external display wait i know this person This is so funny.

54:39Okay. I know someone. This is hilarious. She is a filmmaker, but she so she does not edit video, but she does need to receive editing projects to like review them in proxies and maybe make like small adjustments here and there. So she does need a video card that won't just like the bed. And I do know her home setup has two displays. So specifically needs quality displays. Yes. specifically needs quality but still needs to be able to make very basic video editing moves. This person is real. I know her. This is hilarious. This is good. Does she really, really like the smallest amount of blue possible?

55:19The smallest? Because that is the new color of this one. I could see her being into it. Yeah, there is that new color. Is it called blue? It's sky blue, I think. This is like the silver. Like they didn't finish running the finishing machine and there's still a little bit of blue left the story gets even funnier because a week or three weeks ago she was like what computer should i get and i was like you should get a macbook air and she was like shouldn't i just like wait for the new one that's probably going to come out in a few weeks and i was like i don't know i guess i can't be that much better boy was i wrong now she's sending you this clip good job for waiting yeah no that's it's funny because apple demos these like setups with like an ipad pro and a 6k xdr display and they're like come on this is a real person right and i'm like is it though but you know this macbook air this is at least one real person also 6k i used to have an m1 macbook air and i used to edit red raw footage on it which is not the typical buyer of a macbook air yeah and you can it wasn't as performant but it was doable you know which is amazing which is crazy i will say these things start to slow down a little bit once you run out of storage because they use a lot of swap memory uh but they both upgraded the memory to 16 gigabytes of ram which i you know famously will be completely eaten alive by adobe programs yeah but 256 gigabytes of storage is better as well so yeah also no need to fear they have apple intelligence i know you're all wondering that's gonna be a common thread they are built for apple intelligence just so you're you're up to speed great uh does she need apple intelligence she needs genmoji obviously uh no there's also some other mac updates as well this week so that was that was the tuesday update now or sorry the ipad air was tuesday the ipad which we didn't talk the macbook air also comes with mac studio updates today mac studio updates are a little more nuanced there are two new flavors there is an m3 and there's chip ultra and then there's the m4 max yes so if you want a max level chip M4 generation.

57:29If you want an ultra level chip, which is higher than Mac's, M3 Ultra. So there is no M4 Ultra yet. M3 Ultra is the new most powerful chip we've ever seen from Apple. I don't know how far away we are from M4 Ultra, but I assume that that will be coming up eventually in Mac Pro. We're also around the corner from M5. Yeah. So could be interesting to buy an M3 Ultra chip the same year that M5 comes out. this has kind of become a staggered or an m4 oh is it coming out this year m5 i think so yeah probably because probably november or something yeah so i think yeah it's this might deserve an explain video at some point but it's kind of become this like staggering wave of new chips as they came out it's not like we got the entire m4 lineup at once we got m4 base m4 pro and m4 max in the laptops now we have m4 max in the max studio but no m4 ultra so if you want an ultra chip you can get m3 ultra m4 ultra will probably be coming soon but by that time m5 bass is going to come out somewhere and it's like this rolling system it needs a visual i understood that i'm saying it into a microphone and it sounds like i'm just blabbering this needs a visual i literally needed you to draw it out i know i had to like diagram it so yeah well this may be a video we'll see um but maybe realize this morning that i think max is the dumbest name possible because it's not the highest one ultra is higher that's yeah wait a second the just the the description of the word maximum is the greatest or highest amount possible or attained and then they're like let's double it go off yeah this is true that is very true max plus you know yeah what yeah pro max yeah pro max that is the but that is that is that is pro max is the max you can get size wise and actually it makes sense because the big regular iPhone is just called the plus so are you saying that in max max is not the max that is also very confusing maybe I was so max max is not max correct okay ultra as long as we're on the same page ultra is more max than max on max in max yeah in the max but outside of max max is max yeah because it's pro max well there's something wrong with my brain because I understood that.

59:48Perfect. Yeah, no, that's kind of it. That's our Mac update. I think I want... Yeah, I want to review the new Mac update. We didn't talk about the iPad. Do you want to do it really quick? Because that's about all there is to it. Okay, we can also do the iPad. There's a new iPad. It's got the M3 chip, iPad Air. Beautiful. That's kind of all that's new, right? Maybe double the RAM. It's built for Apple Intelligence. Sorry. Excuse me. It's built for Apple Intelligence. It's a new chip. it has these these colors it's it's neat actually exactly the same the new magic keyboard for it has function rows and a larger trackpad which i do think is actually good and i believe is cheaper it's cheaper but it's still way too expensive is it 50 cheaper or something 269 and 319 it's a little bit cheaper but it's so expensive so that came out and there's also a new base ipad it's still 329 and it has a new a16 chip and doesn't support apple intelligence maybe that's the one to get i guess that's a gated feature now no apple intelligence for the baseline ipad but it does have the newest not the newest it does have a newer as an a series chip right a 16 yeah a 16 generation so which is one one old or no too old too old because we're on a we're on a18 so that makes sense that i wouldn't support apple intelligence that's correct why not put the you just put the a18 in the 600 iphone maybe that's too pricey for the 300 ipad can you help me understand i'm so confused is genmoji apple intelligence yeah it is it is yeah And then the new Siri GPT is also Apple Intelligence?

1:01:32Eventually, when it comes out, yeah. But the chat GPT integration into... That is also Apple Intelligence. That's also Apple Intelligence and also not here yet, or that is here? That's Apple Intelligence? It's here, yeah. Is Apple Intelligence in the room with us right now? Yeah, so it's just like... Okay, so what they mean when they say it's built for Apple Intelligence, they mean you can do Genmoji on it? Yeah, so I did a review of all of the currently available Apple Intelligence features. And the list is not very long right now. Okay. Notification summaries. But it is like a promise. It's an IOU of like, you will get these features.

1:02:06It's growing. It's growing with iOS updates. So as of right now, if you have a device that supports Apple Intelligence, writing tools, summarization for reconstructing text. Oh, and the notification. Notification summaries. Genmoji is in there. Remember the image playground where you can make weird emoji things? No, I'm starting to understand now. That's all Apple intelligence is at this point. It's not really a buying thing for most people. Yeah. They said there was going to be a super cycle of people buying AI phones where smartphones would be back, baby. Yeah. No. When does the Apple Roadster come out?

1:02:45Soon. I'll bring up one more device since we're talking about AI. I reviewed the Nothing Phone 3A and 3A Pro this week. Oh, yeah. And those phones really don't have much AI at all. Like if you've followed nothing phones for the past couple years, they have not done the like remove part of your image from the background thing. They have not done writing tools or notification summaries or any of this AI stuff. They did something better. So you can have Gemini and all the basic stuff. But the one thing they did on these nothing phones that is AI is they added a button to the side of the phone. Yeah.

1:03:18And as I described in the video, it's literally just like a place where you store stuff. It's like I've described it, like Google Screenshots app on steroids. It's fine. It works. It allows you to parse information from the screenshot and save some of it. So if you want to search back for an old screenshot, it's easy to remember and find. You can attach voice notes to things you save by holding the button down. But that's kind of all it really does. It's not backed up anywhere. It's not going to sync across devices. It's kind of just like built into your phone. The essential space is what it's called.

1:03:53Essential space. Yeah. But notably, it's the nothing phone, not the essential phone. That's true. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought it was interesting. They have said it's going to be upgraded in the coming months to have more features. Yes. Just like everyone else and all of their AI promises. Yes. Wow. Someone's got a grudge. Well, you know, that's also what Apple Intelligence is doing. And that's also what the rabbit's doing. The best thing about Apple intelligence is that it forced Apple to put 16 gigs of RAM in everything. That's true. It's actually the best thing. That's honestly, yeah. That's a fact.

1:04:23Yeah. But now here we are. We got new iPads. We got new MacBook Air. We got new Mac Studio. We got new AI. New nothing. A new nothing. The nothing phones are quite good value, though. $379 for the 3A. In the US, anyway. That's crazy. That's pretty good. That's so good. Also have to acknowledge that there is now a 3A Pro and the A series was supposed to be the cheaper version of the standard number. So where does the there's going to be a three that hasn't come out yet. Correct. It's kind of like the M3 Ultra. Yeah. I assume the nothing phone three when it comes out will be a quote flagship and it will cost more than the 3A and the 3A Pro.

1:05:03Yeah. It will probably be in the five six seven hundred dollar range. Yeah. And it'll probably have a better chip. And yeah. We don't know when that's coming. Carl has said specifically that it is going to be an AI focused phone. And I really wonder if that means that they're just going to lean harder into the button. And if that's the main thing or if it's going to be even more. AI. Like catching up with all the Samsung stuff. Maybe. Like drawing something in your picture and then it being a sketch or something. I don't know. Like what it's more to do with the button. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like the button being like totally different than all the other buttons?

1:05:39so the button is in a place right next to the power button where it is very very easy to press it accidentally all the time yeah and it's like like bulging out and not flat yeah i don't like how it looks it doesn't look great but the fact that it is domed and feels different from the power button at least helps me press it accidentally less often because it's right next to the power button but it is still annoying and i press it accidentally all the time i take screenshots of my home screen every day so that's a thing uh have they said what the essential space is like for you know uh not any more than we have kind of store stuff in it you can't like ask your phone about the stuff in the space oh no no yeah so so like i said the screenshots app on steroids like the screenshots app is supposed to be able to like parse through and sort through all the stuff that it finds in your screenshots yeah so this is the same way and if you have an event that you took a screenshot of the event page it will remind you of that event when it comes up or if you have a voice note and you say remind me to buy tickets for this tomorrow it will set a to-do action in this app to revisit this screenshot so you can buy tickets to the event question yeah couldn't you just tell like siri or google assistant yes cool yes okay i think it sounds cool but i also was the only person who liked the screenshot app, I feel like.

1:07:05I love it. I think this is like a to-do list app built into your phone. They do need, like you said, Marquez, cross-platform functionality. If they get a Mac app and a Windows app, I think that's enough. That would be so sick. I agree. I just can't hold my breath for it. I don't think it's coming anytime soon. Are you, while you're using this phone, are you like, that should go in the essential space and you put it in there? It's more of just like reminders and things I need to remember later. Why wouldn't you just use your reminder that? Well, because, I mean, this is a button on the side of the phone, so it kind of is encouraging you to remember more things.

1:07:39So I'm just texting someone and, oh, I got to remember to answer this text later. Let me just hit the thing, save it, and tell myself later what I want to do. Doesn't Google Messages ever remind me to answer this text feature? Yes. Individual apps have versions of these features, but it all being built into one hub is maybe the nice thing. Yeah, so some people are going to be into that. because the reminders app if you want to set a reminder it's just text can you attach anything to your associated with the screenshot that it takes at the time as well so you can be like remind me to buy this for claire on her birthday for her birthday or something like that and then and then it's like claire birthday presents i can probably search and find all the times i had said this is something that might work yeah good birthday you can build collections which are kind of like folders so okay well i'm going to try it more i feel like it's the best use of an ai on a phone thus far besides like circle to search yeah oh i love circle circle to search is iconic but this is pretty close google google now on tap yeah yeah exactly i love google now on tap too it's just rebranded yeah so yeah okay okay that's the nothing phones we should take another quick break we got a little more to get through but before we do that some trivia questions

1:09:03we're going long so how many transistors does the m1 have go oh i know this transistors m1 m1 original and you know this well i've been researching a specific oh yeah i'm still gonna get it wrong though okay we'll think about that answers at the end later we'll be right back Thank you.

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1:10:55welcome back uh i have a family specifically david amell and by that i mean we share a youtube premium account we do you're in my family yeah is this recent no oh god this is like as soon as i started working here it's legal i don't know continue but uh so we only pay like three dollars a month or something my brother for youtube premium it's dirty cheap but um if uh if that if you wanted to pay more than that, but less than it actually costs, there's now an option. There's a new tier in the US. Yeah, tier. That's the right word. Yeah. Correct. Wow. It's called YouTube Premium Lite. It makes sense when you think about it.

1:11:37YouTube Premium gets you no ads and offline downloads and YouTube music. What? And I think... Wait, stop. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It's always coming to each other. It's a deal, bro. You haven't paid for this and not even using it? It's good. Yeah, Alice, you get free YouTube music. It's good. And also there's like offline playback. I think there's another, there's like a picture in picture feature. A couple little things. And then like turn your screen off. Turn your screen off and it's continued to play back. So that's great. That all comes with paying for YouTube premium. But if all you really care about is no ads, now there's a new tier that's just YouTube premium light and that's no ads on non-music videos.

1:12:18so if you don't listen to music on youtube you're a spotify apple music person yeah you can only pay eight bucks a month in the u.s for youtube premium light and still get ad for youtube wait there's ads on music videos yes yes why because economy more expensive oh you gotta pay like youtube has to pay for the licensing that would be my guess okay that makes sense licensing on this also youtube is an extremely popular music streaming platform so maybe the most popular yeah i'm Can I tell a really funny story? Yeah. I, when I got my iPod touch and what must've been like seventh grade or something like that.

1:12:55I distinctly remember, uh, getting it, seeing the YouTube app on it. And the first thought I had was why did I waste 99 of my hard earned cents on Kanye West's heartless when I could listen to it for free wherever I am with this? Oh yeah. Yeah, the YouTube logo on the iPod Touch was a TV. Yeah. Do you remember that? Because it was old. It was like an analog TV. You guys got the iPod Touch in seventh grade? I got it in seventh grade. Oh my gosh. Middle school. No, because the iPhone came out in 2007. Yeah, I got it after the iPhone came out. Because I couldn't get the iPhone as long as I was in 18 and 19.

1:13:36I was in sixth grade. I want to say I was in mid-doubles in high school. I have like an even funnier story about this because I got it because as I mentioned on a previous episode, my parents were really anti kids having cell phones. They were like, Ellis should not have one of these. But I was a pretty independent kid and needed to let my mom know where I was a lot of the time. And so my mom read somewhere that you could get texting apps like like old text over Wi-Fi apps for the iPod touch. But I don't know if my parents fully understood what Wi-Fi was. Yeah. Yeah. So. yeah in my school in high school like all the kids that didn't have smartphones just had iPods and they were able to do iPod touches and were able to do all the same things oh yeah did you have a did you have Pal Ringo what's that oh my god Pal Ringo is this crazy it was essentially woof uh what's that that's not a real sentence this guy no but it's essentially like it was this app that could unite all of your different messaging accounts into one inbox including all of the weird off-brand texting over Wi-Fi apps.

1:14:44Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I could get my Ames, my SMSs, my Facebook messengers. That was kind of all there was back then. All in my Pal Ringo inbox. Yeah. iPod Touch came out in 2007 as well. Yeah, that's the first piece of tech I ever actually owned. Oh. And it got stolen like a week ago. No! Dang. I spent like my life savings on mine. Same. I was like the happiest kid ever for a week and then it got stolen and I was the staff. It got stolen in a week? Yeah. That sucks, bro. Yeah, I got it. I brought it into school because I'm an idiot and then I had it stolen out of my locker and then my life savings is gone.

1:15:21I can't even listen to music or anything. Someone would financially recover from that. Yeah, it was tough. Well, did it have YouTube Premium Lite on it? No, but some kid out there could get that now. It would be great. Add free. Dude, someone out there has Marques Brownlee's iPod Touch. That makes me so sad. And doesn't even know. It's probably e-waste by now. Some thieves. Definitely. Some high school thief. In my head, they're still a high school thief. They never grew up. Yeah, they never grew up. It's like Biff, you know? Yeah. Deep reference. Anyway. I missed that one. Is there anything else about YouTube Premium Lite that we missed?

1:15:56In the coming weeks, they will also make it available to users in the current pilot countries, which include Thailand, Germany, Australia, and also that YouTube Music and Premium reach over 125 million subscribers globally when you include trial users, which is a very funny amendment. Yeah, that is. Wow. But it will expand to additional countries later this year. Last thing, Google Fi just got an update. Let's go. Well, it's not Google Fi that got the update. Sorry. T-Mobile and VMOs have worked with Apple, I guess, in order to make this iOS 18.2 beta support RCS with them. 18.4, sorry. 18.4. I meant to write four.

1:16:3618.4 beta sports rcs so if you're a google file user and you have the ios 18.4 beta flip that switch baby it's rcs is gonna work on the greatest all right you're an rcs you're a google file user right yep you've been waiting yep i've been a google file user for a very long time me too i have been screaming into the void for a very long time the void has answered the void has finally answered they said here have this beta yeah have the sigma there was a uh there was this report that apple was the one that was basically holding back releasing the ability for mbmos to be able to use google to be able to use rcs yeah and now they've finally done it in the beta so i'm extremely excited i can i finally turned it on yesterday and my life is 100 times better you're already on the beta oh i'm of course you are here's number one why'd i even ask of course yeah i was the the alpha beta user adam go ahead and get get cracking on that download yeah i'm literally about to turn on betas right now yeah so thank you wait public beta or developer beta developer beta developer beta is beta ios 18.4 beta 2 yeah i'm on the public beta so i'm on 18.3 i think wow which is still fine but i've just been like waiting for the new siri and i don't i don't know man i don't know when that's coming i don't know when that's coming the developer is fine i haven't had any issues with it at all i sometimes have battery issues so i just need to like pay attention yeah it's fine well to all my fi users out there who are on the iphone which is like three of us hell yeah brother i got one more request for fi let us attach the apple watch you can't do it the cellular can't do it but you can you attach a pixel watch you can for free for free so do it you don't even have to pay if you're on google fi pixel watch cellular free well is that still the case because i know it was when it came out but i'm not sure if that's yeah it's okay yeah that's really funny actually yeah like you have a pixel dude yeah it's free you can use it yeah that's great all right i think that covers it look there's going to be more announcements it's like the end of MWC and the beginning of South By and there's just a bunch more announcements and tech things happening.

1:18:52So stay tuned. Keep it locked as they say. Get subscribed if you haven't already. I think radio people say that. Yeah. I don't know why I said it. Keep it locked. 96.9. Yeah. Keep it locked here on WVFRM. Which kind of sounds like a radio station. But we should wrap it up by finding out the answers to those trivia questions.

1:19:18I'm pretty sure back in the day of radios that had knobs and dials and stuff, you could lock the dial so that no one could change the station. But I am not old enough. I could not confirm that, but it makes perfect sense. That's hardcore. I have listened to a lot of terrestrial radio in my day, but I've never had one with a knob. Dude, especially when you had to like fine tune it because it was just the little dial thing. I would definitely lock that because you go over a speed bump and it's like, you know. Yeah, I was talking about some old people stuff. Who else but us? All right. Question number one.

1:19:59Modular phone camera accessories. Year. I was wrong in the beginning. I said six megapixel and I meant, did I say megapixel wrong? It just fell out of my mouth and felt incongruous. Earlier, I said six megapixels and I meant seven megapixels. What phone? No, what year did this phone come out in? And it had a telephoto conversion lens and a wide angle conversion lens. And both of them looked really silly. And bad. It was unbelievable how much better quality film was back in the day. I can see why they thought digital would never catch on. Yeah. With like two megapixel cameras. Yeah. All right. Oh.

1:20:52Okay. Oh. I did not say if we were doing closest Delta or Price is Right rules. True. So we will do closest Delta. But, Marquez, let me see your border. Oh, that's 2008. All right. Is that an M? max pip on the right? Yeah. God damn it. You mother f***ers. Did we split it? It was 2006. You did split it if we're doing close enough. So we all get the point. But if we do price is right rules only two of you get it. That would be mean. That would be mean. That'd be great. I'm down for everyone gets a point. Well you get a point either way so let's not... Everyone gets a point. The answer was obviously 2006.

1:21:38Andrew and I both put 2004. Yeah, I realized you didn't say the answer. The phone was the Samsung V770. Huh. Never heard of it. Someone will correct us. Yeah, and if I'm wrong, no, I'm not. He's only wrong if it goes lower. Quick update on the score after those correct answers. Marquez with eight. Catching up. What? Andrew with five. Did I miss a week or something? David with 11. Nope. Nope. A healthy lead has become a little more sickly. Let's do another one. How many transistors does the original M1 chip have? Closest delta or... Without going over. Without going over. Price is right rules. Price is right rules.

1:22:21Because we did delta last time. So this time I'll do closest delta. I'm going to be so wrong. You say that. But if you just pick an absurd number, you might be right. That's true. I'm trying to remember.

1:22:40All right. Flip them and read. I thought I was going over and I'm the lowest by$4 billion. Wait, so what did you say? $1 billion. You said$1 billion? Yeah. Okay. I said$40 billion. $40 billion. I'm right in the middle. $9.5 billion. So if we're doing prices right. $40 billion is a horrible answer. That is a horrible answer. Marquez gets the point the correct answer is 16 billion on the original M1 you were closer also 16 billion yeah the M1 Ultra or Pro I forget which one it had like 33.7 billion so you were close if we were doing the other one but it was the base chip the little square I didn't realize that I thought it was the Ultra alright so what do you know your lead is shrinking David how do you feel back to only david and i getting points on the first one no i kind of liked all getting points the node size is also shrinking so one day i will be correct man that's true thank you but hey until then how it didn't make any sense no because you can well sure but there will be 40 billion on a on a macbook chip at some point i think that the m4 ultra no the m2 max has 143 billion, doesn't it?

1:23:58On the whole SOC? Fact-checking time! M3 Ultra, 184 billion, Apple.com. So I'm just wrong. What about the... That's the Ultra, though. What about the Pro? We can narrow it down and find one that's close to your number. I don't think that makes it right. But yeah, we learned something today. What about the second trivia question? That was it. Oh, right, that was it. because the phone it's it's great yeah i'm with the phone thing did we all get it or did just we all got it that's a minute thanks for watching thanks for listening tough i see you at south by if we're not at south by see you at the next regularly scheduled episode we're not at south by no no we're at south by we are definitely they're not sorry i wasn't clear if you're not at south by you the listener uh well we'll catch you on the feed but see you at the next episode catch you later peace

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