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Episode Summary - Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast
Episode Title
Samsung Galaxy Unpacked Rumors and Our Favorite Tech of 2023
Hosts
- Marques Brownlee (MKBHD)
- Andrew Manganelli
- David Imel
- Mariah (Producer)
Episode Overview
In this episode, the hosts kick off the new year by discussing their favorite Tom Scott videos, share rumors about Samsung's Galaxy Unpacked event, and highlight their favorite tech from 2023. The conversation also touches on Apple CarPlay developments, a new Xiaomi car with impressive specs, and concludes with a trivia segment.
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Key Discussion Points
- Favorite Tom Scott Videos
- Tom Scott's 10-Year Retrospective: The hosts celebrate Tom Scott's decade of weekly uploads and discuss his unique approach to video production.
- Video Recommendations:
- "This Video Has X Views": A real-time updating view count video.
- "Yellowstone's Zone of Death": A video discussing a legal loophole in Yellowstone National Park.
- Musical Roads: Tom's exploration of roads that produce music when driven on.
- Samsung Unpacked Rumors
- Anticipation for the Galaxy S24, S24 Plus, and S24 Ultra.
- Introduction of "Samsung AI" and its potential implications for Bixby and other features.
- Predictions about the direction of Samsung's software enhancements and hardware designs.
- Apple CarPlay Updates
- Upcoming CarPlay integration in Porsche and Aston Martin vehicles.
- Discussion on whether CarPlay will replace traditional car controls or complement them.
- Xiaomi's New Car Announcement
- Overview of the Xiaomi SU7 EV, its impressive specs, and design inspired by the Porsche Taycan.
- Skepticism about the feasibility of the claimed specifications (e.g., range and horsepower).
- Favorite Tech Picks of 2023
- Marques: Rivian R1S - Praised for its design and functionality.
- Andrew: OmniType Bauer Lite Keyboard - Valued for its customizability and sound quality.
- David: Arc Browser - Highlighted for its innovative approach to web browsing.
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Trivia Segment
- Trivia Question about RuneScape's Music Library:
- Question: As of November 2023, how many total songs are there in RuneScape?
- Options:
- A) 1,589
- B) 1,362
- C) 1,027
- D) 856
- Correct Answer: B) 1,362 songs.
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Fun Facts
- Crawfish Facts: Discussed the names and characteristics of crawfish, including their ability to double in size and their habitat limitations.
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Conclusion
The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter and a reflection on the topics discussed. The hosts express excitement about the upcoming tech trends and developments and look forward to future episodes.
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Links and Resources
- Tom Scott Videos:
- [Goodbye](https://bit.ly/3NTjuoW)
- [X Views](https://bit.ly/48JsiFB)
- [Yellowstone Death Zone](https://bit.ly/48nSkhY)
- Xiaomi Car Specs: [Xiaomi Car](https://bit.ly/3NSFT5L)
- Apple Car Play Updates: [Apple Car Play](https://bit.ly/3S7Xnxe)
- Andrew's Keyboard Channel: [LMNO-Key](https://www.youtube.com/@LMNO-Key)
Social Media
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- [Waveform Threads](https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast)
- [Marques Brownlee Threads](https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd)
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This episode serves as an engaging mix of tech discussions, personal anecdotes, and light-hearted trivia, making it a delightful listen for tech enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.
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Transcript
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1:01all right what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast it's 2024 we're your hosts i'm marquez i'm andrew and i'm david and uh kicking off this new year actually ellis and adam are both at the same time on fired well deserved just kidding just kidding they are taking breaks so we have a new producer in the house today mariah on the board that's a she's rubbing her hands together like she's got devious plans she's got too much she's learned the board already but i don't know if you're ready a lot of power a lot of power over there but uh yeah we're back to all the tech news catching up to everything there was a obviously a fun show for the end of last year but now there's a bunch of news that we got to catch up on a little bit so we have an update on the apple watch ban the xiaomi car that got announced which i have thoughts about uh some of the announcements uh samsung unpacked is also in it's it's right in front of us yeah it's about right there it's about to kick off the year like ces and unpacked we know it's happening and we also want to wrap up with uh some of our favorite tech from last year yeah we got some some individual picks none of us know each other's picks either yeah we hit it so there may be some hot takes i don't know what you guys picked possibly some overlap possibly that's a good point so we'll get there but before we start we have to talk about a video that I'm sure we've all watched Tom Scott who we've had on the podcast before released a video saying after 10 years it's time to stop making videos that's the title of this video it's more of a retrospective on his last 10 years of not missing a single day of weekly uploads which I just want to say that's a lot harder than you think like it sounds pretty hard but it's even harder than you think to do every single week and especially the quality of videos that he gets to do and some of the fun stuff that he produces.
2:47I think you described that well. It is very hard when you think about it, and it is still harder than what you think about it. Yeah. That's wild. He said something in that video that I resonated a lot with, which is sometimes you get to weeks where you don't really have much, and you kind of think you might have to put out filler, but you can't make worse production quality than you usually do. You only have to go up. You only have the ability to go up because the audience is used to better and better stuff. So he just kept topping himself over and over again for 10 years, which is pretty impressive yeah you know what's crazy about tom scott you know that red shirt that he wears so he only wears that red shirt which is crazy i have i went back in his discography and just like saw everything all of his videos he's always wearing that red shirt and that gray hoodie too is like his right maybe it's a little chilly outside i'll wear the hoodie that exact red shirt my grandpa always used to wear and he gave me when he died and i wore that for like three years.
3:41The exact same one. Yeah, exact same one. But it was like before Tom Scott started making videos. It was when I was a kid. I used it as like a nightshirt. Before Tom Scott made it cool. Yeah. We were cool. I was a fruit of the loom red shirt hipster. How do you know that it's the same? Yeah, it's the same. I wore that shirt for like three years. You just looked at it and you knew. Tom, if you're listening, thief, send me your shirt. You're done making videos. Give away the shirt. but shout out to Tom if you haven't watched his videos if you also haven't watched him absolutely destroy the alphabet typing test which was one of the most impressive things he's still one on our leaderboard he's by like a full second spoiler alert he he crushed it and so you should watch that episode if only to see that he also still will make videos he has other channels and I think he said he will come back to his eventually but just not keeping that he's taking a break and not doing the weekly upload stuff yeah yeah he's gonna still make videos he's just not forcing himself to make videos.
4:39He has a fun podcast too that I was on where it's sort of like a game show type thing. Yeah, I've listened to it before. So if you enjoy our game show moments, you might enjoy that one too. I thought it would be fun because he has so many videos and I know we all watch them. If we all named our favorite one from him, just in case somebody out there doesn't watch him and wants a good idea for one. Okay. Yeah. Do you want to go first? Sure. Since Marquez is obviously searching. I'm going on him right now. He has a video called that this video has X views, but the X updates every time there's a view, basically, which is crazy.
5:16It currently has over 70 million views. So if you go on YouTube and search Tom Scott, this video has X views, it'll show up, and it'll just be updated with the current view count. And it's funny, he wrote some code, basically, that just consistently updates it. And in the video, he's like, this'll probably break around like 3 million views or so, and it just never broke. It's just still going, which is amazing. um so i think i think that was pretty cool it was it was pretty early on into like youtube giving public features and being able to do stuff and uh it's cool that youtube never like saw that and then stopped it from being able to do that and actually now youtube does live view counts so when you're watching a video the views literally tick up so yeah i don't like that one that's definitely been copied since then as well i've seen multiple ones of like this get this video needs this many of you or like something like that it's like live reacting to it but yeah yeah it's a good one i have one that i'll always remember because it's just like his videos are awesome because they're these little tiny pieces of information that are fun to like throw out there he has one called um i visited yellowstone's zone of death which is okay a very short video and essentially because of the way the sixth amendment is worded in the u.s where if you are in trial for being accused of a crime you need an impartial jury of the state and district because yellowstone is a federal district and one of the only federal districts that crosses state lines there's this like one mile strip in idaho where federally it's considered the yellowstone district and by state it's considered idaho and there are no people who live there so you technically couldn't get a jury to have a trial if you committed a crime there so why doesn't everyone kill everyone i'm sure i'm sure if it actually went to court it would probably be yeah they would find a way to do it but it's very funny because he went there and like i think in the description of the video he's like um a car did drive by and i was very nervous when it happened and he it's like a six minute video and he was in and out as fast as possible now i know where to bury a body perfect well you have to commit the crime there as well oh i could do that well there is no copy so i guess uh if anyone ever invites you there do not go um i do have one that i remember this was this one's a much older one it's six years old but uh there are a couple of these in the world but certain roads where when you drive on them the ridges in the road yes create music i remember this video and he made yeah he made a video about uh one that's in california and how it kind of sounds terrible because if you drive at the wrong speed it's out of speed it just doesn't yeah it's not it's not it doesn't work very well yeah but it's still cool that's a thing right i thought that was i feel like that's cool that it's a thing when you if you drive on that road once if that happens to be the commute i think it'd be fun i don't know is it only on the sides in the rumble ship or it's it's only on the sides right yeah okay so you have to purposely go off it's an area to decide to do it okay cool that's fun do you have one Mariah?
8:26Did you know we were gonna fan favorite is the Tom Scott vape pen clip highlight of him choking on the vape pen. I'll send it if you haven't seen it. Choking on the vape pen? It's so funny. It's like 15 seconds of yeah. It's just him coughing. What's the video again? It doesn't matter what the video is. Don't even know. Yeah that is a thing that also happened and was memed relentlessly. Honestly I also give him a lot of credit for filming most of his videos outside. Yes. Because that's just a nightmare with like wind and light yeah and the fact that he does most of them outside is a big and we talked about on the podcast but i think he's the best teleprompter reader i've ever seen for real like ever yeah there was a great snippet of the podcast where he talked about that where he just like got really good at it because you always wonder like there's all these videos where he's just standing on a beach and he's just walking towards you on the beach and he talks for like 20 minutes and you're just like how yeah how did you do this and he he talked about it in a pod so go watch that but basically he writes in the same style that he talks so because he writes everything he's able to just talk naturally in a way that feels like he's just talking yeah it's really good it's hard to do it's hard to do when i write scripts i definitely like i go back over it and speak them out and then change the words to make it sound more like i'm actually talking yeah yeah if you don't know tom scott go watch his channel and some heavy show there's a lot of stuff when you publish every week you just kind of cover this insanely broad swath of topics and he covers it very well but yeah all right so we have an update yet again because this is the waveform update podcast where things happen and then they change yeah it is an unfortunate truth that we record on wednesdays and things happen in between wednesday and wednesday so we have an update on the apple watch ban yeah uh the last time we talked about this was two weeks ago because last week we had pre-recorded the uh end of the year episode so that we could take a week off for christmas but basically at uh the last episode where we talked about this the apple watch was about to get banned um it did very temporarily uh they were actually off sale online starting on december 21st and they were out of stores starting on december 26th i heard it was a lot of fun for employees to like go through all the stores and take them off the shelves and off of the display tables and put them back yeah and i hadn't thought of it that they have to do that right around christmas which is like hundreds of people buying last minute gifts at the apple store so yeah kudos shout out to all the apple retail employees out there that probably had a rough week i hope you're relaxing now yeah no no so the update basically is that they actually did take it off sale for a little bit but then uh apple basically made a software update that they think will be able to get around the patent infringement so they submitted that software update to the international trade commission to see if that was enough to get around um and in the interim period they are now allowed to sell the apple watch again until january 12th when the itc decides whether or not that software update was enough uh if it's not back off sale they're gonna have to change out a hardware piece it's probably going to take a long time to do that um apple probably has a pretty quick supply chain considering it's apple and a huge amount of their wearables sales as apple watch yeah but uh yep part of me would want to think like oh well they'll just discontinue it till the series 10 but the series 10 is definitely being made already like yeah so So that's a great point, actually.
12:10Yeah, so that's a very big problem. It's a very Tim Cook thing. Like, he's a supply chain guy. This is a very supply chain annoying problem to have for that company. So they're probably trying to brainstorm. I mean, I'm sure they've been thinking about this, but now they need to figure out a way to continue to sell watches until the new watch comes out. But not make it, like, too much of an announcement because you don't want to have an announcement for a new watch that's on sale right before the new new watch is on sale. so there's question marks there. The software update thing would definitely be the most idealistic thing for them because then they could just update all the Series 10s that they're making right now.
12:45Is that pushed, that software update, or they just submitted it? They submitted it to the ITC to see if it's enough. Massimo still thinks that they need a hardware change, obviously. Do you think they're just disabling the blood oxygen features and calling it a day? I don't think they'll do that. So last time when we did talk about that, I actually got a lot of people, I said I thought blood oxygen was fairly irrelevant and a lot of people told me what they really liked it for and apparently sleep apnea and sleeping and how you're breathing when you're sleeping. It does a good job at telling if you have a hard time during that and it helps people diagnose sleep apnea.
13:21That is actually cool and pretty damn common. Yeah, we got a lot of comments saying like this is actually way more helpful than you guys think, which is surprising. seeing a bunch of people in the real world who are saying it is and then us who are saying it not. So thank you for letting us know if it's useful to you. Yeah, there's definitely going to be people that it's useful for. It might be a vocal minority thing where it's a small fraction of people, but the people who do find it useful really like it, so they're vocal about it. Totally makes sense. But yeah, Apple's going to try to keep it in there because it's a feature that they've advertised and talked about and really means a lot.
13:54I think I've come to my own conclusion that I find it hard to not see just Massimo, that's their name, getting a big old check soon from Apple. Yeah. They say they've reached out to Apple and just offered to have them pay them and that Apple never replied because I think Apple just doesn't want to lose. They got a little bit of leverage now. They have a lot of leverage. That's going to be a fat check if that's what happens. It's funny because them, you can see why they wouldn't want to do it because if one company successfully does it and gets a check and every other company is like, oh, I wonder, what we can get a check for so they just want to not have it work but now that they've let it get this far massimo has a ton of yeah because massimo took the very long process of getting to this point of having lots of governing bodies agree with them and yeah i mean that's just wild to force apple to take an apple watch off the shelves like that is yeah gigantic i know there's so many lawsuits against apple and nothing ever happens yeah so yeah so unfortunately uh for you guys the pause lasts until exactly one week from today next friday so next week we probably still won't have an update unless unless they figure it out before friday but i think they're gonna figure it out on friday so in two weeks you'll probably know uh whether or not the apple watch is still for sale or not um but that's the update for now and we try to do our best to keep you as up to date as we can yeah but time moves so moves quick moves quick faster than we edit moves quick so We'll keep our eye on it.
15:26With that, let's take it to a quick trivia and ad break. Oh, Mariah was ready for that trivia. Lock. You're on the trigger for that one. Lock. All right. CES is right around the corner, ladies and gentlemen. It's happening. The Consumer Electronics Show is known for having some crazy inventions and tech products, but CES is also known for destroying your inbox with PR emails. Yes. Which of these products is not a real product that I've received an email about? Oh, God. So option A is Flappy, an intelligent cat door flap for your door. Definitely real. Option B is Willow, a smart wooden swing set that generates electricity for your backyard.
16:12That's dope. Hold it for later. Okay. Sorry. option C JEDZ which is a medical delivery drone for hospitals and option D which is Sabre a smart pepper spray device save your thoughts for later I just want to say CES is the only time where we can do name the fake one versus name the real one normally Ellis has to make three fake ones but CES is so wild that that's what we can do I love it I have CESTSD from going to CESTSD. I get it. I get it. It works. Well, we'll think about those for a little bit. Answers will be at the end as usual. Yeah, we'll be right back.
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18:20We connect what's happening in Washington to the rest of the globe, expose corruption wherever we find it, and give fresh perspective on everything, from wellness and soccer to culture, the climate, and more. Read, watch, and listen to The Guardian for free at theguardian.com. All right, welcome back. We've got to talk about Unpacked. Samsung Unpact is coming up. So we already know CES starts off the year, and I think for a lot of people, that's the bookend for the tech cycle for the entire year. CES at the beginning, end of the year stuff for the end of the year. But as someone who's, I'll call it extremely jaded, I've stopped paying as much attention to CES.
19:00I kind of still hope we see cool stuff at CES, but I ultimately think there's a couple diamonds in the rough, but then we start to get the heavy hitters moving out of CES into their own events. I think trade shows overall are kind of losing interest. Right. Like E3 is not even happening anymore. It's officially dead. MWC is also like kind of quiet now. So I'm going to watch it. But I think for me, it's becoming the Samsung event at the beginning of the year that bookends the year for me. And so unpacked, we have an announcement date. It is, well, let me check. January 17th. 17th. Thank you. Which also real quick on date.
19:33Does this feel like it gets pushed a week earlier and earlier? When is it? It's going to be before CES soon enough, I feel like. As long as it doesn't move before New Year's, it's fine. That's what I was going to say, though. At what point does this not just move till December? It moves forward constantly. I think they always want to be, like, one of the first ones out of the gate with the new Snapdragon chipset. And that's, like, why they're doing that. Yeah. I looked last year was February 9th, I believe. But I know it's been in January before. So maybe 2022 had it. But, yeah, I just feel like it is creeping closer and closer.
20:04No, February. Yeah. Okay, yeah. They just went two weeks sooner this year. So we're creeping up earlier into the year, but we're basically expecting some of the usual suspects, S24, S24 Plus, S24 Ultra. And then there was this announcement or sort of a teaser that they posted that said Samsung AI. And I don't love or hate this. Like I kind of am looking forward to a lot of interesting AI things in 2024. we've had a lot of them in the past year or two but samsung ai what does that mean bixby stuff is that is that what that is that would be interesting it would be i think that's a good word yeah interesting what do you think is interesting that samsung's doing ai or do you think bixby's coming back well i think bixby's dead i think this is the official death of bixby yeah well it could be a rebranding moment for bixby it could be a total revamp for like Bixby is this new multimodal focus of the phones or it could be some totally new Samsung AI and they just drop the Bixby name and it's just Samsung AI.
21:08They could be pulling a Mr. Peanut where they killed Mr. Peanut and then they brought him back. Bigger and better. As a baby Bixby. Interesting. Yeah baby Groot type stuff. I don't know. I'm curious. I do think the AI thing will be very heavy focus for the entire year. Yeah. Samsung and Google have been like weirdly tight knit and close for the last like three years too so like apparently assistant on like bard with a google assistant with bard is launching fairly soon there's there was a bunch of rumors that were going out this week about it launching in the like the next couple weeks or months so maybe they like launch it on a galaxy device oh yeah i mean maybe but they're calling it samsung ai i think galaxy ai is what they called it galaxy ai i think that's what it's called in the teaser yeah so i would yeah galaxy ai is coming i really don't know what that means that's what i think it's that's why i think bixby's gone i think this is the new name let's rank this from worst possibilities to best possibilities worst possibility is it's a slight bump to bixby as it already exists and it's annoyingly bad no there's a worst possibility but go ahead okay
22:22but i think optimistically galaxy ai is a giant focus on software features that have ai behind them powering them on the phones and that can uniquely differentiate some of the things on this phone from other phones that come out do you have ideas in my eyes worst case scenario is we never get the bixby speaker because now bixby is dead still had hopes for it Oh, the Galaxy Home? Technically, it was called the Galaxy Home. Yeah, the Galaxy Home AI now. But I think Bixby's gone completely. Wait, that's bad news? Is it the best case scenario or the worst case scenario? For the user experience, probably best case.
23:06Yeah. But yeah, now, what is your scenario? Okay, so my best case scenario is that they just low-key integrate transformer models into everything. like Apple, the only times they've ever really mentioned AI is when they say like, Transformers now are powering the keyboard. I would love if like, if Samsung keyboard got updated with like a Transformer architecture in the background. If it was like low key stuff, that would be great. We know it's not going to be low key stuff. This announcement suggests not low key. Yeah. My worst case scenario is that they're going to have like an on-device image generator and you know how they have the uh samsung like memojis what do they call it yeah there's a name for it there's too many there's it's either animoji or bit memoji oh there's too many yeah they're probably going to like have some sort of ai memoji thing just says emoji but my my best guess is that they're gonna have some random like image ai image generator for some reason because uh qualcomm has been like consistently like putting out tests of how quickly they can make an image on device right like this is this is going to be a lot of the features of the phone will be dependent on what snapdragon 8 gen 3 focuses on yeah so i assume if we already had the the snapdragon summit already yeah they've talked about okay yes the the main chips the main processors are more powerful it's more efficient yes but now we have all these new cores and capabilities for on-device AI stuff yeah so now it's up to every OEM to take advantage of those to differentiate their phone oh okay we're Samsung we're gonna have some crazy on-device image generation or some large language model that does cool stuff with keyboards something like that they'll probably have like a wallpaper generator yeah yeah that's I think that's kind of which is fine it's cool it's flashy for the presentation the thing that would be not flashy that I wish they would do and maybe other phones did.
25:06And I feel like we talked about this with like an Amazon Fire Stick or something, but just like a chatbot that helps you with just like settings and things that are going on with your phone. Like the settings search tab is kind of a pain in the ass sometimes when you don't name something exactly what it is. But like - Context aware. Yeah, if it was context aware and could help you actually change settings and stuff on your phone, especially for people who don't know about phones very much, it would help way more than a Verizon store because a lot of those people have no idea what they're talking about.
25:34True. And it would help all of us from when our family calls us to help with their phone, which is very hard to do when they're talking on that phone and you have to teach them how to do something. Oh, good point, yeah. So I would love for just to open the settings tab and be like, why are my pictures blurry or what is this? But it'll probably be flashy stuff like camera, photo editing maybe. I think wallpapers is a very good. Photo editing. Photo editing, I think, is the most obvious version. Magic eraser or something. Or generative fill. I don't even know what Google calls all this stuff. Yeah, generative fill or like moving stuff.
26:08Magic. Magic editor, magic eraser, magic magic magic. Magic magic. They'll call it Samsung AI magic. I think worst case scenario would be if Samsung created a clippy like creature that was Bixby that was just chilling in the bottom of your phone all the time. That's best case scenario. That's best case. That's game changer. Yeah. I want a little emoji guy. A little. What would Bixby look like? Clippy, 100%. I don't really want to think about that. Bixby is the one that would look like Clippy. I'm going, like, greenish. With a clown nose. Like, if the Pillsbury Doughboy was green and an alien, that's my...
26:43Are you going to ask? I'm going to ask ChatGBT to make a photo of Clippy. Of Clippy or of Bixby? Sorry, of Bixby. Okay. While you're on that, there were some very minor leaks of possible S24 features. Yeah. One of them was just a straight up ad that was on like a counter in some retail store that looked like it was the S24 Ultra. And it looks basically just like the S23 Ultra, but silver, maybe a titanium rail. Yeah. So from the back, it looks exactly the same as the S23 Ultra. There is a rumor that it might have a totally flat front. Which I'd be happy about. I think that would be awesome. Because they've been getting slightly more flat every year.
27:21They had like peeled over the edges for S21 Ultra, and then they mostly flattened it for S22 and S23. Yeah. And they could go, the only phone that's really actually fully flat is the iPhone right now. Like, they just go straight 90 degrees on the corners. I'd be into flat phones. Do you remember the Note 20, the regular one? That was flat, right? Note 20. Remember, there's two versions. And the Note 20 was like, everyone loved the form factor and everything, except that the specs were way worse. The Note 20 was the plastic one, right? I think so. It was the cheaper version of the two. Yeah, the glastic.
27:57Glastic. yes yeah i think oh no maybe that wasn't totally flat the note 25 bezel the ultra had the curves i'm surprised i did that the ultra had curves curve for sure i just remember everyone liking the size and the form factor of the note 20 but the specs were so much worse compared to the note and when you buy a note you kind of want that but um yeah i don't know i think totally flat the other rumor though i do like about the s24 and s24 plus versions are supposedly they're flattening the edges kind of like the um iphone 11 to iphone 12 where we had rounded edges versus flat edges on the side of it the rails i think that would be awesome yeah i honestly i love my zen phone the ultra wide camera has left some to be desired and i want a case for it and just there's not a lot of case options s24 regular size there's gonna be way more accessories an Extra triple camera.
28:55I might go to the S24. I would throw a mini iOS on that, though. I hate Samsung skin. We'll see what happens. It's been a long time since I've used the Samsung skin. I hate what UI do. Every time I daily a Samsung phone, I do have to spend extra time making it usable software-wise. Just for my own taste. Yeah. I think I use Nova Launcher on my Note 8. At least. Is that still around? I don't know. Weirdly enough, though, I apparently never took it out of the app drawer on my phone, and it's kept moving and I just recently took it off my Zen phone because it's moved to so many phones since then.
29:26I've never opened it, but it's just been sitting there. And you can launch it from that icon and it'll jump into the launcher. Yeah, I never opened it again. I just recently got rid of it. Maybe I'll have to bring it back if I go S24 out, but I'm kind of excited. Low key. Yeah, well, we've got some car stuff to talk about too. Can I even call this a car or is this just... It's totally a car. It's a car. Just made by a phone slash everything else you could also call it vapor but let's call it a car for now let's try it okay so xiaomi they actually have one though there's one that's well you can make one everyone can make one yeah sony made a car yeah once yeah so okay xiaomi announced the su7 ev their first car it is fully electric it has all kinds of inspiration from the porsche taikan i mean if you see photos of this thing yeah 75 of it looks like a porsche tycan and there's some some slight adaptations for things like headlights and and handles but it it looks pretty good that's the one car it looks the most like which is a good looking car yeah but if i can if you read that name though the su7 ev yeah it basically has suv in the title and i'm immediately thinking suv it's not an suv yeah it's very much a sedan it looks good it looks really good uh so yeah i think the The highlight of it is the design.
30:45I'm going to read the specs, but I'm going to careful. I think the highlight's the specs. Well, that's what I was going to say is I'm going to be careful to say that I don't believe that most of these specs will actually happen. So it is a highlight that they're trying this, but I'll read the specs. Let me just, let me know what you think. Okay. up to 35 000 rpm motor 668 horsepower uh up to 800 kilometers of range in the so that's about 500 500 miles of range but wait but also a long range version that will ship later with 1200 kilometers of range 750 miles of range cool i wish okay i'll keep going 800 volt architecture so it can charge 137 miles in five minutes or you can add 317 miles in 15 minutes of charging not sure what charger uh hyper os so they have the software that matches the xiaomi smartphones and then all the design stuff that i'm sure you're seeing in the video version of this podcast Do we think this car achieves a single one of these specs?
31:59I think all of these, or well, not all of them. Two of them are very closely connected. And I don't think the charging is as absurd if you can believe the range, because 317 miles in 15 minutes is a percentage of the battery in peak charging. So if the battery is actually 750 miles, that seems totally plausible. but that would still imply you need to charge because we don't have a do we have a kilowatt hour size of the battery that they're promising i think they did have one i think it was like only like 113 it was not even that big oh let me see if they okay so maybe i'm wrong there but when i first see yes 15 minutes 317 miles sounds crazy but to a battery that's so big if you can keep peak charging for longer because logically that checks out there this is only a 73.6 for the standard and 101 for the long range so the same size as a tesla model 3 really less yeah the 73 or the 73 is a tesla model 3 more or less so how is it 100 there are cars out there yeah there are cars out there with 100 kilowatt hour battery packs yeah the model s and what's the range on that 407 on a good day 350 i think they claim the long range can go about 400 yeah okay so this one's claiming they're claiming 750 yeah 750 like i at least if they claim like a reasonable range i might think that this car might exist but because they went straight to 700 miles of range i now don't think this car will ever exist yeah i didn't realize the battery pack comparison of it I thought they were just kind of going crazy.
33:38Is Xiaomi's test track just 700 miles of downhill? It's actually gaining battery the entire time. It's just a wild claim. It's supposed to have self-driving. There was a video out there that showed it parking in a parking structure where it just goes around in circles a bunch, and then it almost hits a car, but then it backs up, and the other car goes around it. It parks in the most inconvenient parking space possible. That's the most believable thing about the car. Yeah. The fact that it will go park itself in a garage. You know, they say it might be 2024 when this comes out. We're living in the year 2024.
34:14I don't, I mean, I have to take it somewhat seriously because it's Xiaomi and they are really announcing it. And this isn't CES. Like this is an announcement of a car by itself. Yeah. If it, by the way, if you see a new car announced at CES, I'm just going to tell you to confidently assume that that car is never coming out. Don't, don't assume that you will ever be able to buy that car. if they had announced this at ces we'd be like it's definitely yeah that would be confirmation that's all the confirmation i need that this car is never coming out because it's its own event outside of ces i have to go all right well yeah i guess it's xiaomi doing a thing yeah i was just looking at old photos and i saw what was it called the nissan mx i or something from 2020 yeah yeah it's a cool looking car but it's super concept again yeah when you go to ces and the seats are like lighting up and there's no steering wheel enjoy the 10 second it's like 75 % of the cars there was a BMW once that we sat in and it was so prototype that when my cars tried to scoot through the back seat they were like wait wait wait can you step out and come to the other side of the door the middle of that seat is cardboard yeah it just it'll collapse it'll collapse yeah so like if this was just a random EV startup that announced these I'd be like it's definitely not coming zero that would be zero percent but xiaomi makes like everything which is why it's just above zero but they actually make every yeah i mean yeah just above zero because if you if you ask me what company on planet earth has the best opportunity to show up out of nowhere and ship an ev with 750 miles of range on a 100 kilowatt hour battery yeah xiaomi would be nowhere near the top of the list i would think okay who has the best most advanced battery tech and drive trains and efficiency we're talking about lucid tesla the absolute the the top stuff in ev world and xiaomi has never shipped a car so i mean they're they're confidently putting models of this car in xiaomi stores which is easy to do you can put a model car in a store that's super super simple but i just don't believe that it will actually have those specs it is interesting though like david was saying that the fact that it's xiaomi and it's a big company and announcing this has way more risk for a large company that already has other products they have to worry about.
36:31Like if you just told me an EV is coming out with these specs, I'd be like, all right, it's a pickup truck from a company I've never heard of that will also be... With a 300 kilowatt hour battery. Yeah, and the first thing on the website is reserve your... Pay us$300 to reserve your place in line right now. With a buy some stock button next to it. But the fact that a Xiaomi does change this and like you said, a bit more hopeful. I think I'm a tad more hopeful than you i don't see it hitting those specs that's a lot like 750 miles out of nowhere but i trust xiaomi doing it more than the like random startup getting billions of dollars from investment funds like yeah coming out of nowhere so if you had to assign a percent chance you think this car actually delivering with let's say 500 mile yeah let's say the standard version the 500 mile version what percent chance do you give this exact car does it have to be 2024 or just percent chance it comes out because that it comes out in the next two years because this is china they they they develop battery tech very quickly they do they ship the craziest fastest charging phones ever yeah yeah exactly so is that what's going to happen are we just going to get mind blowingly fast charging but you can't get it in the united states and they're not using they're definitely not using nacs right i give this 15 chance 15 that's actually more than i thought that's the same percent um of andrew's diet think about it makes you think so 15 that it hits 500 miles in the next two years yeah next two years 15 of my diet is yes played but i've been studying that board i appreciate it yeah i mean it's hard to say like they haven't given a price or release date yet right i said 2024 i think this is regardless of price they could have said 60 grand they could have said 600 grand i still don't think you can give a 73 kilowatt hour battery yeah i don't think ev companies have strayed away from being extremely expensive and still aren't hitting these numbers so xiaomi i don't think price has to do with it they also haven't said where they're gonna sell it which is sad they probably won't sell it in the u.s yeah possibly not either way unless we're missing some really long-range electric vehicle i'm gonna go 25 and say i'm being optimistic about it i'm gonna say 30 yeah price is right price is right i'm gonna give you guys some context um the most efficient lucid just from me googling it the entry-level lucid air pure has a claimed 406 mile range on an 88 kilowatt hour battery and the ev everyone keeps telling me to check out which has solar panels on it has three wheels and i also don't think we'll ever ship but they talk about it a lot is the aptera ev oh they claim up to a thousand miles on a single charge that's that like like this yeah it's that oh yeah street i guess it could be street is that the one that there's all those other things that has like solar power yeah that's good it's got some solar power okay but if you're not aware of what it is yeah it has three wheels it's like uh it doesn't look like a car it looks like it's supposed it looks like a science project that's supposed to hit a thousand miles it looks like a car that would be in that the future if image it looks like a car you would buy and then learn that the hummer ev and the cyber truck are on the roads and be like i'm never driving this on the road yeah i'm never driving again it has a hundred mile an hour top speed the app terra has a claimed 400 miles of range on the 40 kilowatt hour battery and a thousand mile range how much does it weigh though that thing's got to be 80 battery weight yeah yeah it also has solar panels so like yeah i guess but solar panels even on the smallest version of that are adding not about not all i think digit miles every single company that's put solar panels on has even in their most optimistic market said like at best this is controlling your like air conditioning for the day yeah the prius prime that i tested when i left it parked outside for several several days gained several miles of range so yeah so there's that yeah yeah do with it what you may it's show me they announce crazy stuff sometimes i just want it looks really good it does we probably won't be able to buy it in the u.s but i would own this personally wow without even testing it probably doesn't have apple carplay or android auto or anything like that it definitely has android oh probably yeah definitely xiaomi but not carplay okay probably not carplay yeah that's fine that's bold you would own it i would own this for sure what's the okay one more question for shizzle maximum price you would pay to own it that i would pay yeah i wouldn't pay a lot for a car yeah but it's xiaomi so like mate i would say they're gonna try to sell this for let's assume all the specs are true 55 000 msrp that'd be crazy those that would be like best bang for your buck that'd be unreal if it hit these numbers i think that's what they're gonna try to sell it for the 400 mile base lucid is about 80 grand yep so but it's show me it is and they basically if you go on their website and look at all their products they're literal direct rip-offs of other really expensive products oh they're not shy about that no their vacuum cleaner looks exactly like the dyson vacuum cleaner like all of their stuff is pretty much exactly a ripoff we shall see but it's way cheaper so we'll see we'll see yeah all right speaking of ev news oh i saw this uh basically at the very end of last year porsche and aston martin announced this new carplay that apple had originally announced at wwdc 2022 which is a long time ago it was a very weird very am i in a huge state i have so many thoughts portion of wwdc where apple was just like in the future all of the cars are going to be completely controlled by your iphone all of the screens are going to have all this information and it was all a bunch of mock-ups and they didn't announce anything real and then we didn't hear anything for like an entire year but just moved on they had announced that by the end of 2023 they would be able to have announcements about it actually coming true and literally at the very very end of 2023 they put out a little press release with uh Porsche and Aston Martin talking about this next generation of carplay didn't they also say that 80 percent of people wouldn't buy a new car unless it had carplay that's that might have been another apple quote yeah i'm pretty sure that it was a wild stat clearly not true the model y does not have carplay and it's the most popular car in the world.
43:13They only asked people in Cupertino looking to buy a new car. They went around on the Apple campus and they were like, hey, I need a little survey here. I need a quote. It's like when you're in high school and you have to do a survey for a class, you ask like 14 people and they're like, my data. My data. You just ask your friends. Yeah. First of all, I think, yes, CarPlay, if we just stick with CarPlay, is an important feature for a lot of people in cars. Why? Because most in-car software sucks. Like, real bad. Horrible. CarPlay, not that great, but better than car software. So very, very bad.
43:54This mock-up of it, like taking over your whole car, would seem to make sense because, again, what car is going to have better software than what Apple can make, right? Everyone just wants their phone anyway, so why not just give people their car just being their whole phone? And Apple doesn't make a car yet, so I guess this is the Apple car, you know? uh the press announcement showed they said porsche and aston martin porsche didn't really give any model numbers aston martin did say that next year's db12 would have this full carplay thing on the screens which if you look up photos of the interior of the aston martin db12 the 2024 db12 there are physical buttons for lots of the same things that show up on the screen like your your air conditioning and your media like your volume all of that there there are knobs and buttons on the car already so they'll have a physical button and a digital button how is that a good idea how is that a useful like how is that a good use of space it's gonna be very redundant yeah seems weird to me so i i want to throw in there i'm pro physical buttons me too all in a car not all but climate control easily accessible physical buttons yes pretty much everything i think you could probably get a there's not a lot of things almost every human agrees on but i think one of them is that physical buttons for things like that are better than digital buttons in a car yeah in a car for sure when you you should be keeping your eyes on the road yes and you want to reach and have real haptic feedback about what like you're moving and adjusting physical buttons are better so this car play taking over your whole screen your whole dashboard maybe there's a secondary screen in your car i don't think every car of the future is going to have to have all screen i think that's an aesthetic that got popular because tesla got popular with evs and part of making an ev affordable is cost cutting around the expensive battery so model s and model three they have incredible batteries and drivetrains but then they've cost cut everywhere else take away the screen take away the buttons take away everything it's super minimal and so because teslas are so popular all these other car manufacturers are going oh this is this is getting popular maybe we do that too and so you're seeing all these super minimal interiors come out but that's not actually what's popular about the car i think people are buying the ev for the ev reason and are dealing with and are okay with the whole screen thing but i think we all still know that physical buttons are better than digital buttons so this weird like head fake that we're doing towards all car play on your car but also in cars that have regular buttons is kind of weird because i think we're in a couple years going to realize we're just going to have regular cars with buttons again so it's it's weird well you still need your car to work if you don't have an iphone right so it's like i feel like that's why they're doing all the physical buttons in conjunction because even though they're going to have the digital button option with all the car play stuff you still need to be able to control your car if either you don't have an iphone or if you're don't want to plug your iphone in yeah i guess so if it's still the next gen carplay this is still a projection from your phone like this isn't built into the car like android automotive but it's well no this next generation carplay is supposed to have access to all of your car's features so you're supposed to be able to like control the temperature so it'll show your speedometer and your range and your rpms if it's a gas car yeah but you still need your iphone for that to work For the CarPlay to work, yeah.
47:22So if you don't have your iPhone, if your iPhone is dead, it's still going to back up to whatever Aston Martin software is underneath it. That's actually a good point. I had not thought about if that's the case. Because I'm not sure. I assume it needs your iPhone, but it could be. Not sure, yeah. Like Android Auto. Current CarPlay needs your iPhone. Will this next-gen CarPlay be built into the car like Android Automotive, or will it still be like CarPlay? God, that's actually an interesting question. That's a great question. Now you have Android automotive, but an iPhone. Can you still connect and do basic?
47:54You can connect your iPhone to the Polestar 2. To just do like music and stuff like that, right? Yeah, exactly. So I guess if it's built in, it's the best case scenario. Because then even if you don't have an iPhone, you can at least do the minimal things like contacts and whatever. And then just it's an Apple UI for the rest of your car. Your phone will be like, your car will be like another device in your Apple account, basically. Yeah. When I first thought about like adjusting climates and everything like that in CarPlay, I was like well I'll just use my knobs for that and CarPlay for everything else but like a lot of these pictures that they're showing of like renders of it are showing climate controls and everything like that so they do want that in there and it is both the way I see it is like I'm just gonna use my knobs for the stuff I want to use and then hopefully just customize the screen enough to I'm never gonna touch my heated seat button on the screen never gonna touch my climate control on the screen it's gonna have my maps it's gonna have my music and my cool skin on my speedometer I would do exactly what you're doing.
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48:48But then, yeah. It comes down to, again, the question that we've asked many times on this podcast before. What do you think will happen first? A car company deciding to spend the money on software and become a good software company as well so that they don't have to rely on Apple putting all of their stuff on the car screen? Or a tech company becoming a good car company? So something like Tesla or Xiaomi or Apple or whatever, who's already really good at software, getting really good at the car part, you know, panel gaps, build quality materials. We talk about all that all the time. Which do you think will happen first?
49:29Yeah. You know, so theoretically, becoming a car company should be much harder than hiring a good software team. But I think we kind of talked about this a little bit yesterday. Like, for some reason, these traditional auto manufacturers just, like, don't want to hire a software division to maintain good software in their cars. A really good software. They have software divisions, but they're not a focus that's, like, pushing boundaries. Right. And I think they don't want to do that because people currently aren't buying cars for the software. People are currently, like, if you're buying an expensive car like a Porsche, they're buying it because it's a Porsche.
50:05Or if they're buying a Honda Civic, they're buying it because it's a Honda Civic. But I don't think right now software is like a major reason that people buy cars. And so that's why they're so likely to just be like, oh, Android Auto or CarPlay. Just like off the shelf, put it in. We don't even have to hire a software team. Yeah. But slowly these startups like Rivian are coming and like devoting these really big software teams to the interior software of the car. and that is a major selling point for people that are the early adopters of evs but as evs become normal cars by 2030 when it's illegal to buy a nice car in the united states like what is that going to look like yeah so people up until let's say 2020 didn't really think too hard about the software built into the car it's just whatever i'll get car play and that'll be fine yeah but people buying new cars in 2024 and beyond are going to start to care about the software because a lot of them will be evs and the software will matter yeah and a lot of them are younger people who care about the software let's be honest so it almost feels like tesla's success kind of tricked a lot of the car industry into some of the wrong focuses yeah weird yeah i do think a fully compatible like android auto or carplay car in an ideal world is the best option because those two software manufacturers are so much better than even the software software car companies are currently yeah and i think they have such a head start i don't see tesla ravine ever catching up to them and the software function plus if we always talk about tesla and the ecosystem of charging and being inside your tesla all the time what's a better ecosystem than your car being connected to your actual ecosystem of your phone and your like all your smart stuff yeah it almost feels like the only possible way to get that ecosystem integration is for it to be the car play thing like if you use like if i use tesla as an example their app on the phone is phenomenal it's the best i've ever used for any car you can do you can send instructions to the car you can preheat the car you can have schedules for charging there's all sorts of things that plug into it.
52:21Yeah. And by the way, and this is separate from the car, like if you have a Tesla solar roof system, there's all the software that talks to the car where I literally have it where if my car is plugged in while it's sunny outside, it will only use the excess energy from the solar that the house isn't using to charge the car. Insane. I couldn't even dream of doing that with, I don't think the Taycan has anywhere near that functionality. So the integration in Tesla's ecosystem is great, But if you still want the texts from your phone or the apps on your phone, you kind of need CarPlay. I think there's a specific phrase you used in there that's so important and really important for a lot of people saying like Rivian and Tesla already have really good software, which is it is the best I've used in any car.
53:07any the best car software right now from tesla and rivian or whoever is like still worse than an ipad c level like like actual tablets and ui and software from these big companies yeah that's my favorite part about watching some car reviews is someone go oh yeah the the in-car infotainment is really good and they'll swipe across and it'll be like this horrible janky animation like if i reviewed an ipad and did that you'd be like what is wrong with this yeah this is horrible i just So like anytime you think car software is really good, imagine that being on an iPad or in a phone review that we're doing right now.
53:39And people would be like, you thought that was a good phone? Are you serious? You can't be kidding. An interesting angle of this is that with the new CarPlay is that depending on the manufacturer, they're going to skin CarPlay to be based around the manufacturer's car. I think it's cool. I want to customize this. Well, I think it's important. I think it's important for especially for the car manufacturers. right they don't really want you to get into a porsche and then everything around you is apple ui right colorful like everyone else's yeah it makes a lot more sense for you to get into the porsche and everything is sort of porsche themed but still has all your phone functionality and as a car manufacturer like i think a big reason that there's sort of this tension where they don't want to give all the power to apple is that they don't want to just be like oh yeah half of your experience is dictated by not us yeah so the fact that they themselves can skin it and make it feel like it's a first it's gonna feel more first party even though it's a third party thing yeah that's why i think this this car play thing it has to be a stopgap between the car companies eventually going all right we got to get good at software yeah and we're not good at it now so you know what if we can work with apple and they can deliver a great experience we can keep selling cars these new people who care about this software experience yeah but we're eventually we can't just give it up yeah so i think this is a stopgap once evs get a lot more popular and prevalent and there's cheaper ones like the tesla model 2 or like a rivian r2 is that what it's called r2 the platform yeah yeah okay then i think that it's going to be a much more major thing that traditional automakers like honda or toyota actually have to consider because people that are going to be buying the most cars are going to be like millennials and gen z yeah so that's the reason why i think google and apple will prevail because they're gonna see more companies going towards their own software and they're gonna be like hold on a minute we want to be in these cars this is this is our opportunity to make more money or our opportunity we're possibly losing money because now people aren't using carplay or android auto they want data as much as possible if you start taking away driving data from them you start running into some issues i wouldn't doubt if they're going to start i mean like they're going to want to make deals with car companies and be the thing inside of as much as they can but yeah it's an easy selling point hey why pay a software team yeah just pay us or we'll pay you to be inside this car well here's a question for you guys would you prefer a really good like rivian or tesla ui that's just really good or would you prefer carplay or android auto that's i think that i think there's an obvious answer there really i think if both of them are at absolute peak you want the one that's also connected to all the other tech that you use i actually don't i i like my car software being like separate from my phone i think that's like a small wait same no i no i think that's like a small personal thing where it's like i think in peak if they were absolutely perfect on both sides you would want it connected to everything else i think that if it was skinned to feel native but it was actually CarPlay or Android Auto, then I would be okay with it.
56:54Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I prefer the Tesla UI or the Rivian UI to CarPlay and Android Auto. But I see what you're saying about if it was better. That's what I'm saying. If it was perfect in both scenarios, you would want it. I would want the one that's connected to everything else. Yeah, because we all want something in our ecosystem. It's because it's the way you're the most familiar with, too. It's already plugged into everything. Yeah. Summary of everything for me is the legitimate older car companies have a head start in the making cars thing. And they're trying to figure out how to solve for all the downsides that they have with software.
57:29And this feels like a patch for now. The software companies have a huge head start when it comes to the software, Tesla, Rivian, maybe even Xiaomi, who knows. But they are trying to figure out all of the shortcomings that they have with the whole making cars thing batteries range build quality panel gaps whatever tonneau covers tonneau covers so they're they're both working on their shortcomings and the patch for now seems like good car good software combined please buy our car that's my summary okay we have to take a quick break. Mariah's been on the trivia button for like half an hour because our notes were like three sentences and then that was 30 minutes.
58:17Yeah, hit the button. There it is. Alright. Alright, friends, I don't know if you're ready for this one. So, this is a special interest topic. So, RuneScape is a browser-based fantasy game. No, no, no, hear me out. Originally released in 2001 by the company Jagex with over 200 million registered accounts. It's the world's most popular free-to-play MMORPG. Still? To be determined. Oh, registered accounts. RuneScape is known for many things, but especially their staggeringly large music library. In 2017, they were awarded with the Guinness World Record for most original pieces of music in a video game.
59:00As of November 27th of 2023, how many total songs are there in RuneScape? it's a multiple choice answer don't be scared okay is that all of RuneScape oh like old school and RuneScape 3 because are there different songs I think it's just like in the newest version so RuneScape 3 yeah is RuneScape 3 considered the newest version anymore or is old school considered the newest version you know don't worry about it I've never played RuneScape you don't need to play to know I didn't even know this okay so I still don't Mariah famously has a RuneScape desk mat at her desk. Not anymore. Not anymore. Oh yeah, you swapped that.
59:37You're wearing a RuneScape shirt though. This is my Christmas gift. That's a RuneScape? Oh, actually it's based on one of the songs. It is. Oh, God. Alright, option A. 1 ,589 songs. I could see that. Option B. 1 ,362 songs. This is not a large variation. Option C. 1 ,027 songs or D. 856 songs. Those are all way too many. They're way too, those numbers are way too close to each other. I feel like it's - I was thinking it would be like 64 songs. They're good songs, by the way. A thousand songs. Yeah. 10 ,000 songs. Yeah, that's what I would do. Yeah. Just saying, I don't know if it helps at all, but you can get something in the game called a music cape, correct?
1:00:24Yes. Yeah, so if you unlock all of the songs, you get a piece of equipment based on unlocking all of the songs. You have to unlock the song. RuneScape is also famously known as the grindiest game possible. Yeah. Okay. That shouldn't. All right. Don't be scared. We'll think about it. Let's take it to break. We'll think about it. We'll be back. I just want to hope somebody's listening right now like, you idiots. Of course it's 1 ,130. Famously. Whether you're a founder, investor, or innovation company executive, you need a bank that truly understands your business inside and out. A bank that offers uniquely specialized solutions for your unique needs.
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1:02:09Welcome back. This is a section that I think maybe we should have done at the end of last year, but I wanted to fit in here because it's a little fun section. And we always get a very positive audience reaction when we do something like this. Never too late. Yeah. I wanted to go over our individual favorite pieces of tech from 2023, something we started using in 2023 that we think kind of changed our workflow or that we just really positively liked. It's always a little fun. I like recommendation sections. Gadget Lab from Wired actually did a full recommendation episode for the last week of 2023.
1:02:42So I thought it would be fun to have a little recommendation section. And so I think we're going to do three products each and we're going to go in a little round table. So we're going to start off with Marquez and it doesn't have to be something that released in 2023, just something that you started using that you really like. Huh. I love how in this for audio listeners, randomly after an ad break, people, hosts of this show will just be wearing smart glasses. Oh, I didn't even realize. Marquez doesn't even wear normal sunglasses except for these indoors all the time. Yeah. Uh, spoiler. Sorry.
1:03:17I'm picking, I'm picking the Ray-Bans meta smart glasses as my first pick. These things, I mean, I don't know. I don't, like you said, I don't wear sunglasses that much, but they surprised me at how, like just overall as a package, they managed to fit a lot of fun, smart features in things that look like just regular sunglasses. And they actually get, David's wearing the clear ones. So you could kind of just wear them. And then are those the transitions, right? Two or no? uh yeah i think they are so they turn into sunglasses they're not full sunglasses they're not like nearly like yours but they tint you know yeah personally i think that wearing the sunglasses ones is probably a better option because if you wear clear glasses when you don't normally wear clear glasses then they're like what are you wearing like what are you doing but if i'm walking through the city like the pov videos that you can get of just like walking around or whatever activity you're doing are actually pretty solid from yeah so just for that feature alone i thought these were really cool um i've been wanting to do more pov driving videos for autofocus and struggling to find safe ways to do that yeah this is uh this has been a an actual workflow game changer for that too so yeah i i'm liking these the video quality is really good the sound quality is surprisingly good it kind of shoots sound into your ears yeah directional audio yeah and then they have they're like one of the first multimodal ai products as well exactly i've I've been testing the, hey, Meta, look and tell me what you see.
1:04:39It's going to start reading to me now. We did this a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Do you want me to? Oh, it didn't do it? Oh. Oh, it didn't do it that time. That's fine. Cool. We're in the early stages. All right. This is my favorite piece. Watch it not work. Watch it not work. All right, Andrew. My turn? All right. Yeah. I have for show and tell today. Oh. Oh. If you couldn't guess, because I won't stop talking about keyboards in the last couple months this is the omnitype bauer light wow which is a keyboard from a company named omnitype they're famous for a very old or an older very expensive very low inventory keyboard called the bauer 2 but they made a light version which is polycarbonate it's 100 bucks 120 bucks and it's like in stock inventory which is really cool and really a newer thing in the keyboard community that's happening right now um and they were nice enough to send me one and when i was on paternity leave i built them and now i've built like 10 keyboards and i've been having so much fun with it um this one i brought specifically is i think sounds and feels so good um i'm like obsessed with it it is um yeah it's a polycarbonate board it's hot swap i have switches from kinetic labs They're called the Kinetic Lab Moon Switches, which are actually hand lubed from the factory.
1:06:05So they sound really nice without any effort. And a nice Game Boy theme keycap set called GMK DMG. You're going to do a little typing test.
1:06:19I could listen to that all day. Inject that in my brain. I have dove headfirst into the keyboard hobby to the point where before I left for paternity leave, I had built my first keyboard to now I am back from it and I have like 20 of them and a keyboard YouTube channel so this is where we've gone I have a question yeah so I love all these these like niche like super deep dive into hobbies that we do and I always I I've started getting to keyboards more and so I've come to appreciate much more the different sounds and feels that you get from keyboard why does the lightness of it matter the light of how light this is yeah this is just light because polycarbonate is cheaper than CNC aluminum yeah so the reason I'm actually working on a video right now on this for the studio channel but the reason you can just stamp and mold polycarbonate whereas before the Bauer 2 that they were making he said it took over heavy yeah because it's aluminum but it took more than a year to make 500 of them and 8 ,000 people signed up for the raffle so that's just not an option for smaller companies or even some bigger companies to make stuff like that um places like keychron do do aluminum bodies and they're great at in stock stuff and there's way more companies doing in stock things right now which is really cool um all this i'm working on in the video that i'm doing right now but polycarbonate is nice i like the lightness of this just for like bringing it to work was nice i think i do still like my heavy keyboard playing games because it like sits in its spot do you bring us back and forth every day not every day um i'll probably leave this one at work i built a bunch at home i'll probably leave them at work to just use this props because i obviously don't need 20 keyboards um but yeah i've just been building a lot of different ones trying different sounds and feels and stuff and i've been taking videos of all of them and posting typing tests on a channel plug your channel yeah i want you guys what do you think of this channel name it's called lmno key i love it that's nice it's really good that's a cool channel alphabet pun it's just me and my friend typing pretty much very low key but yeah this one omni type bauer light big fan i liked the keyboard yule log i made a keyboard yule log it's an hour of typing with like fireplace crackling did you type for an hour did you loop it did you type for an hour i typed for 10 minutes and then looped it i debated typing christmas songs during it but that was too much work yeah that reminds i used to bring my uh when i worked at intel i brought my happy hacking keyboard to work every day you had a key a carrying case i had a carrying case for it uh nice there was a period of time as well that i brought my ergodox to work yeah and i used to eat ramen at my desk while typing an ergodox is like a split hand keyboard where you do this and then you can put something in the center keyboards look really cool that's it don't take video someone to clip that i just went like this yeah i had a wood case and elvin elvin keycaps from lord of the rings it was pretty amazing yeah and a runescape mouse pad yeah all right um my i think favorite piece of tech from this year is software it's very we've talked about this before it's arc browser uh they're a cool startup you have to pull it out of your computer to show it to us yeah yeah i've got a sticker on my laptop oh okay they're they're a very fun startup they're uh i don't really know how they're gonna make money uh and they don't really either they have some random ideas but for now they're running on some runway um but But yeah, it's hard to get me to switch a piece of software or technology that I use all the time.
1:09:51And I generally will try things for like a day and then I'll be like, no, I like going back to my other thing. I think I described Arc very badly the last time we talked about it. I was like, it kind of gets rid of your tabs and then it can kind of do this stuff. It cleans your room for you. Yeah, I famously am really, really terrible at tab management. so at a certain amount of time like 12 hours later it will clear all your tabs and you can have different spaces so I have like a workspace, a personal space and then like a website management space, just all these different things. It's got boosts now that came out this year which is like you can basically modify the code for a website to look however you want you can turn it pink, you can get rid of certain things they had this funny little ad that came out when Twitter when Twitter Blue came out that like removed the Twitter Blue tab and removed all these things.
1:10:47Just to like clean up. I don't know. It's just a very fun startup with a very fun browser. Most browsers are so stagnant. They're just, it's Apple's browser, Microsoft's browser, or Google's browser. Yeah. So it's like they're not playing with fun, quirky, interesting features. Yeah, they're quirky. I think that's what... Would you say Firefox is... No, no, no. No, no. I'm just sad you didn't say. Oh, okay. No, I would say though, it is stagnant. but to David's like point here is it's really hard to change things that you use for a very long time. And a browser, like I'm using Firefox cause I started years ago and I don't know why I use it over Chrome.
1:11:24I'm just used to seeing it like that anyways. And I just haven't made the change. So like, that's a big change. So you, it's gotta be a fairly solid product if you've made that change. Yeah. I was going to say the same thing. There is a small list of software that if I change it, which I do once in a while it's a really big deal to me which is my to-do list app my email app my calendar app yeah my video editing app yeah and my browser right they're like I'll have one for years at a time and if I find one I might try it for a day and then come back to the one I like and find another one try for a day come back to the one I like yeah but if I change from premiere to final cut my life has changed yeah if I change from safari to arc like which I did huge change Yeah.
1:12:06So I like it a little. Also, Arc is doing something kind of crazy and unprecedented where they're unprecedented. I like precedented. Unprecedented. They're basically, they're doing something called Swift on Windows, which effectively they didn't want to write a whole code base. Right now it's only macOS, and so they write it for Swift because Swift is like a much newer, cleaner thing, and they didn't want to use some of these like platform switcher applications. so they're making this thing called swift on windows where basically they can just write it for swift and then theoretically can make it run on windows they can make it run on android and they have an iphone app right now but they're going to completely revamp it because it's not really a browser app it's sort of just like you can only have one tab open at a time and you can pin things to your to your browser on your laptop but it's a very big undertaking i think because they made a browser and they don't see a really obvious path to monetization.
1:13:04They're trying to figure out how they could monetize this. But they're quirky and fun. And that's just kind of the reason that I kind of have stuck with them since the beginning of the year. But we'll see if they're around. They make nice hats too. They do make nice hats. Oh, that's how they can make money. I dig their hat. Merch, baby. They have a pretty rabid fan base that is like... It's always a good thing. Loyalty is nice. Very loyal fan base. And surprisingly, they like every week they update the app on thursday of every week and add a fee pretty much add a feature every week which is cool they now have it on their youtube channel they put out like feature update videos every week and those videos get close to 100 000 views every week now that's where you make youtube creators now absolutely maybe yeah they're youtubers though nice um so yeah it was it was fun using that this year yeah nice all right product number two marquez is my next one is extremely expensive so hopefully you guys have less expensive things put the affiliate code in there yeah i love the rivian r1s that is expensive it's a it's my it's the most well-rounded most i had almost only good things to say about this ev which is very rare for me and i mean we test all kinds of vehicles cars suvs pickup trucks all sorts of stuff like that i had like nothing negative to say about the rivian r1s and my first exposure to it was i think in 2022 but it started shipping in 2023 and i reviewed it in 2023 and um yeah there's a lot of things that i like about it so i'm there's also an easter egg in the video that i made about it which you guys will probably understand sometime later in 2024 but uh yeah that's really big i don't even know what you're talking about or i don't think i know what you're talking about so yeah that i mean it's expensive it's it's i'm starting to see a lot more of them on the road which i think is a good sign for rivian as a company i see them everywhere it's selling way better than the truck yeah so that's cool but yeah i just i'm shouting it out because i think it's amazing i think r2s and r2t will be much more interesting for the masses because they're trying to bring most of the capabilities that most people need on the street down in price to an attainable level and i think it would be great what if i want a sedan can rivian make a sedan a sedan so rivian has this adventure type of theme i would say i think an adventure would be interesting like a cross track yeah i think that's a that's a popular vehicle category so the pickup truck technically the most popular vehicle in america is a pickup truck and they started with a competitor to it and i think this said the big three-row sedan is another very popular category that maybe an adventure three three oh suv but i think this the big crossover or sedan big sedan could be another thing for them if it because because the subaru solterra was so bad if they made like a solterra competitor that was actually good i would be so happy i want that i would buy that in a heartbeat i want the r2 so bad slightly bigger similar size to my forester if that's the case yeah i'd be very very happy again i think i i put my demands out there that might be what because r1s is a small three row maybe r2s is two yeah r2s i would assume is going to be a two row but still decent trunk space yeah if it's still got like the cool boxy look of rivian and it still has like some of the cool like a front trunk because a lot of times i feel like when you start going to the smaller suv they start getting rid of the front trunk yeah i still want I think is uniquely building EV from the ground up, where some of the ones I get rid of the front trunk are just not, they're just late.
1:16:43They're not building an EV from the ground up in that way. I have a real, I feel like I'm going to reserve the R2. Yes. As long as you're not planning on having three more kids, then you could get that car. They can find their own car. One of them can go in the front trunk. Then you're getting that white Chevy minivan, baby. It's on. On to Odyssey. Yeah. R1S, that's my shout out. That's awesome. I'm going to shout out something. so i don't use it but we have it in the office and i think it's really really cool and unless you see it so i'll try and describe it it sounds kind of lame but i think it's awesome it's the corsair platform six sit stand desk that we got recently i like pretty damn cool i thought about i thought a lot about getting one yeah i really like it so they they sent us one and we put it in our gaming room and it's like a corsair is obviously a gaming company this desk doesn't scream gamer as hard though it's like a nice wooden platform it has kind of like its own adjustable pegboard backing so you can add all these different customized like shelves and hooks and like there's side plates that come out to extend the desk left and right there's pegboards that can go on the side it's autumn it's sit stand it just has like all these really awesome customizing things on it without looking without like looking like a real desk because here's the thing i could see having this in a garage and using it as like a workshop desk it probably workshop desk probably should be a little sturdier or like thicker just if you're like using a saw and stuff yeah i mean like soldering and that kind of yeah yeah fair i mean this is this is it's just a really nice looking desk that has all the customized customization that you would like ever want like we have really nice speakers up on the side of it and everything right now my studio monitors are on the desk and they they've been on my desk for years but the the thought of being able to get them up off the desk at your ear level but then have you reclaim the desk space underneath it that that's and still has all sorts of great things for like cable management and stuff like that and places for arms like essentially you can create this with like almost nothing sitting on the desk except for what you want and have your monitor and computer set up in all different places and i don't it's just a really sick desk i don't even know how much it is it's probably pretty expensive but it's on sale it's on sale baby for how much uh it's only 30 off but it is i don't know uh it's 848 as of right now that's not that bad for a desk for a motorized sit-stand desk that's like there's obviously better or cheaper options out there but i don't think that's terrible yeah i spent a lot on my desk but yeah i think it's really sick i think I don't know if we've done it.
1:19:24Have we done an A-roll set in the gaming room since we changed that? No, I will, though. Alex did one. Alex might have shot for a video that's not out yet, but I think it looks great. And it's going to be a really good, just for our set purposes, being able to customize it. And the pegboard. The pegboard's really awesome. Yeah. I like that a lot. Good job, Corsair. All right. My second one is, I promise, not sponsored. But the Eight Sleep mattress topper pad. Interesting. Go on. Okay. this thing is so sick i love mine yeah much we got like yeah we got it originally for a sponsorship yep um well basically they they reached out they wanted to sponsor us i said i will have to try it first and if i like it then we'll do a sponsor and then i loved it yeah to sponsor right so they have a full mattress option and then they just have a mattress topper i got the topper because i already have a mattress that i really like um but effectively it's this high-tech sleep mattress topper that can cool you and heat you at different times of the night it uses like intelligent machine learning or whatever to like change the temperature over the course of the night so that you sleep better it has all these trackers to like tell you how you slept and like say when you should go to bed the app is weirdly well designed it is pretty good yeah yeah like it's it's a very high quality product with a very high quality app and honestly it has made me sleep significantly better since I've had it.
1:20:50Yeah. It's crazy, too, because at the at every morning, it gives you this sleep score to tell you how you slept. And my sleep score always correlates with how good I feel, which is crazy. Like if it's like, oh, you slept terribly. You got a 63. I'm like, yeah, I know. I feel like crap. But if I'm like if I wake up and I'm like, wow, I feel incredible. It's always like 98. And it'll change the temperature over the court, like as it gets closer to you waking up to help you wake up more naturally and at a point in your like circadian rhythm where it's you feel better waking i mean just waking up to it being like a little warmer is nice or getting into bed with it being like getting a touch board or cooler depending on the yeah yeah and it can also vibrate to wake you up which is kind of weird i don't use that it's pretty low they just updated it did they okay i haven't tried it again since then yeah i have one major gripe with it which i is very small and i don't know how they would change it so if you want to like go take a nap in your bed in the middle of the day and it's cold in your room because there's water flowing through without it changing the temperature like the bed is cold when you get into it yeah which is like so small and i'm more of a couch napper but like so you'd have to heat it up ahead of time well because it starts heating up based on like when you said as a bedtime all Well, no, no, but like if you're, if you would prefer to be a little warmer.
1:22:11Oh, then you can go on the app and tell it. Yeah. But if you're just like, oh man, I'm pretty exhausted at two o 'clock. I'm going to go take a nap in bed. It's just like cold because it's just water that's sitting in a cold room. Yeah. So very minor grape. Yeah. Still absolutely love it. Two things. One, it's hilarious that my bed got us all for update. But two is I think I got home from like an overnight thing once. And so I like got in bed to go to sleep at 6 a.m. or something. and it just turned on. It just figured it out, realized that I was, and I still got a horrible sleep score, but like it realized that I was getting into bed at a crazy time and I was like, all right, because it's got the sensors, the heart rate monitor, everything is built into the mattress topper.
1:22:50It knows a weird amount about you. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Maybe a little too much about you. It is also on sale. What? Not a sponsor. It is a very expensive product. It's$2 ,500 for the mattress topper, which I know is a ton. and some of those features are behind a paywall as well you don't need the subscription right you really don't need it no I think some of the way I think they'll like it changing because like you can set what points of temperature you want over it's like when you go to bed when you hit light sleep when you hit deep sleep when you wake up but I think the automatic changing of that based on your movement and stuff is behind the paywall is it yeah interesting it's like autopilot okay um well yeah yeah i really like it i have slept way better in the last six months since you have a water-cooled bed have you gotten to the point where it's harder to sleep in other beds um it that's an interesting question because i wasn't sure if i was actually sleeping better in the eighth sleep i thought wow i do i feel like i am going to sleep faster and then i tried to sleep in a hotel bed and i was like i'm cooking okay hotel beds suck well man i disagree with both I've really enjoyed I think hotel beds are usually pretty good and at least for me and I've started feeling like wow these are too hot now.
1:24:08Interesting. See the reason I still sleep okay in a hotel bed is because I'm not paying the electricity bill of what I set the HVAC to when I go into a hotel room. That's very dad of you Andrew. Yeah exactly. So I'm cranking that to whatever preferred temperature I want. But then in the morning it's still 64 degrees and you have to like get out of bed when it's cold. Yeah. Which is tough. I like the feature where it had hit zero cooling or heating like an hour before I wake up. But as I'm waking up, it gets colder and it sort of nudges me out of bed by getting colder. And that works really well.
1:24:39See, that's probably why my sleep score sucks because I make it get warmer and then I'm like, I don't want to leave. I have never once wanted my bed to be warm. So I have never I don't have it get warm ever. I'm a cozy boy. There you go. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Cool product. Last round. Let's do a speed round. Okay. Last item for me. I recently started using this set of in-ear monitors by 64 Audio. I don't know how to pronounce the name, but I'm going to try, which might be a mistake. I think it's called the Volure. But they're IEMs. Back in high school, I have this memory of every time during homeroom and study hall, I just had my Zune HD and my in-ear monitors, and I would just zen out and not talk to anyone and just listen to music for hours.
1:25:22and that was that memory was like a core memory that was unlocked when i just went back to starting to use in-ear monitors again because you start hearing things in the music that you didn't realize were there because you've only heard them on headphones you've only heard them on speakers i've been listening to these i've been editing with these a little bit they're very versatile very expensive also uh but i'm giving them a shout out because i don't have anything bad to say about them yet so i made the mistake of opening them and trying them and then handing them to you and not trying them for longer because now they haven't left your desk since i gave them to you they're gonna be there for a while yeah they're actually in his ears right now it's it's funny what you unlock when you find a new better listening experience i uh i have this turntable that i've had for a long time and i i have like 500 records but they're all at my mom's house because i was that weird kid in high school who was like super into records uh but i finally like got a couple new records and put them on my turntable at home and i'm like damn this sounds so good yeah it sounds way better so i am excited i want to i want to try your i am i'm editing i'm like hearing things i've never heard from the microphone like there are there are cars outside in the parking lot that i see the levels on the mix pre or at zero so i'm like i think we can keep talking like i don't hear i don't see it on the levels here and then i hear in the i am's i'm like this is so much so i hear everything i hear my i hear the hairs growing out of my face It's crazy.
1:26:47Anyway, okay. What's your pick? This is definitely something that came out in 2022. And the thing I'm looking forward to got delayed till 2024. So using it as a 2023 thing is maybe not the best. But the Pulsar X2 wireless gaming mouse I've used before. Wait, Pulsar? Pulsar. P-U-L-S-A-R. It's just a mouse that I loved. It was fantastic. I was using the Random Frank P version, but they do all these really good collabs and designs. and they're coming out with a Demon Slayer collab soon, which is an anime I started watching and I really like so far. So I can't wait until that comes out. It's going to be sick.
1:27:22But yeah, that's my quick hit. Nice. Mine is a little boring, but I really liked the Pixel Fold this year. I know it had a lot of problems. Like the bezels are pretty big on the inside and the interior screen is not very good. Here they come. I don't care about Tensor, whatever. Whatever. But I just really liked the form factor because I was really hoping like the oppo find n and the find n2 never got a u.s launch and that's like a shorter more pocketbook style foldable phone and so if you have one yeah passport style i like the pocketbook style yeah so if you live in like the united states and you want a pocketbook style passport style phone it's kind of the only option and the thing is pixel software for android is by far my favorite android software and so having that along with all the google smarts on a passport style phone allowed me to sort of ignore some of the the issues with it also we've talked about this before probably the best phone to use closed um and i like that mindset when it comes to folding phones because the galaxy uh z fold has always been a phone that's been like oh we want you to use this open most of the time and they make it a little bit awkward a little uncomfortable because it's so narrow yeah but this phone is like a really nice aspect ratio closed it's short and it's nice and i like it um i'm really hoping that the second generation is significantly better i doubt it will be maybe the third generation will be uh i just want a better interior screen maybe some smaller bezels and that's about it i really like that phone shout out to the pixel fold i'm looking do you know how you said it's narrow and awkward to use on the front of the z fold yeah remember the essential phone 2 concept that was supposed to be that like skinny phone yeah yeah yeah so many people were like excited for that i think they were just excited because it was different it's just weird and different okay yeah but if you remember the original samsung galaxy fold it was super slim and narrow and then it just had a small screen inside of the front yes it had the weirdest bezels ever looking back that was a very first yeah the first gen the screen broke yeah i mean yeah the interior screen broke so um yeah awesome cool well i think that's gonna round it out for this episode i think it's time for trivia to wrap it up trivia we're eyes on it time for me to expose how little i know about scoring music for video games i guess i don't know anything i feel like ellis is gonna be upset that he's not here for this because see his dad does sound stuff for world of warcraft or did at one point oh what hasn't his family question okay ellis is like nikki minaj is my neighbor which of these products is not a real product that i've received an email about option a flappy the intelligent cat door flap how much AI is involved in it?
1:30:26These are all AI related. Unfortunately. Option B, Willow, a smart outdoor swing set that generates electricity. Option C, Jed Z, a medical delivery drone for hospitals. Gen Z. Gen Z. And Saber, a smart pepper spray device. These all could be real. Like, honestly. No, they really all could be real. Can you play the music? Oh, yes. Yes. Sorry. Is this the waiting music? I actually think we're supposed to play the music while you're asking the question, right? Technically, I think it's supposed to be like the Jeopardy, this is how much time you have to answer. It's broken, sorry. Because this doesn't seem like the right music, but this is what's...
1:31:10No, this is the right music. Okay. You guys said that the same time. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. Oh, I missed.
1:31:17All right. Flip them and read, boys. All right, David. We all picked the same. We all picked B, the swing set. You are correct. Would you like to read what Ellis wrote for the swing set? Yes. Ellis did a collab on this one. Willow is a revolutionary alternative energy solution intended for families with children. Comprising of both photonic and electromechanical transductors, Willow focuses on two energy sources, the sun via solar panels and the near unlimited energy of a child via a series of passive components aimed at turning a child's kinetic energy into useful energy. So that's too good for CES.
1:32:04That's why that's fake. Eleanor really needs to be a PR person. He can really spin this stuff. The reason I picked that was because I was like, there's no way that a child is going to be able to create enough energy on a play set that is going to be useful to your home in any way. Which is why it's realistic. But what if the electricity is just like to power some outdoor lights that are on the swing set for your yard? Have you met a child? They have energy. Yeah. I had heard of the smart pepper spray already. Yeah. Me too. I got that email for that. Yeah. I think I saw it on like a Verge article.
1:32:38What's smart about it? I don't know. It says. It knows if it's. How many times it's been sprayed. It has Bluetooth and it connects to a safety app. So I guess every time. Oh, so it alerts someone when you're spraying someone with it. Okay. location whenever it's deployed. That's actually smart. Also, the smart cat door sounds like a very good idea. It sounds handy, yeah. It also has an app. I'm hoping that it can tell when it's been used so you can maybe say like, oh, I haven't seen my cat in a while. When did it go outside? But also I'm hoping when it comes inside, maybe at night, it can then lock it.
1:33:12It does. So the cat's not going out at night. It not only detects when a cat tries to bring in prey into your home, I don't know how that works. I have no idea. Leave that bird outside. Yeah, and then it'll lock the flap also. It has a prey detection camera and an app experience. Definitely a camera. It's just a visual AI going, I see something not your cat. That's awesome. Interesting. All right. I think that's cool. We all got points for that. Yeah, cool. That's pretty sick. What does that bring the time for us to get it? Oh, yeah. That is a good question, isn't it? Let's see. How many songs?
1:33:45I'm just going to guess. But they were so close to each other. that's why I have to guess yeah we just have to guess alright I have no idea either what if we all get it right again so since you all got it right it looks like Marquez is at 20 points Andrew's at 14 carry the one do the whatever David is also tied at 20 points alright RuneScape baby RuneScape was awarded the Guinness Book of World Records for most original pieces of music in a video game in 2017. As of November of 2023, how many total songs are there in Ruinscape? And option A is 1 ,589 songs. Option B is 1 ,362 songs. Option C is 1 ,027 songs.
1:34:45and option D is 856 songs. If you need me to read that again, I can read it again. Man, that's difficult. They're all so close. All of them seem absurd to me. It's too many either way. Yeah.
1:35:06I just want to get this right because it's RuneScape.
1:35:14Okay.
1:35:18All right. Smile and wave. I wrote C. Did you all write the same thing? No. I also wrote C. You said C, David? Yeah. Incorrect. What did you write, Marquez? I wrote A. A is? Also incorrect. Is it B? Option B. Is it B? 1 ,362 songs. I originally wrote B, but I was like, the last question was. Do I get an extra point if this is what the music cape looks like? Oh, man. I actually don't think you're far off with that. I think I'm pretty close, right? It's like a harp. Nice. Hey, wait. Fake point. No. You guys didn't know. What did you write, Marquez? I wrote 1 ,589, which was the first one. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:35:56Yeah. Ugh, yeah. Dude, they're banger songs, too. Just saying. That's too many songs. They're good. Too many, yeah. You didn't have to go that hard. The Sims has like 60, and that's way too many. Wait, I recently saw a video of Katy Perry recording her song for The Sims. Oh, in Simlish? In Simlish? Yeah. it's very funny would you guys like a bonus question for no points or we can do it for points i would like a no points bonus no points yeah this is uh an obsession for this week this question is about crayfish i love crawfish i love crawfish see exactly so crayfish crawdads mug but mud bugs ditch bugs freshwater lobsters mountain lobsters and yabbies are all the name for the same creature.
1:36:43These little crustaceans, who are close relative of the main lobster, can be found all across the U.S. and have dozens of regional nicknames. Crawfish can live on every continent in the world, except for which two? Every continent in the world. I don't think I can name all the continents. There's less than ten, right? There's seven. Seven. Right. Right. this is tough yeah because i'm going by that is tough no i'm going i'm going with that but i'm gonna be mad because i changed my answer halfway all right i wrote antarctica assuming we all wrote that right i did and australia you are half right and then what did you have I wrote Antarctica and Asia oh damn you're close I wrote Antarctica and then I wrote Australia then crossed out and wrote Asia Marques is just the hybrid of me and Andrew you guys you're half right you're all half right the two places that you won't find crawfish are according to we love crawfish dot com uh africa and and arctica i was thinking africa maybe oh would you like a fun fact about crawfish sure that wasn't why did you bring up i have a fun fact about crawfish i can eat 60 in a day did you do that wait have you ever sorry before the fun have you ever heard the parks and rec joke where he's like i think i'm allergic to sushi anytime i eat 80 sushis i throw up I have not heard that.
1:38:28Wait, so when did you eat 60 crawfish? A couple years ago, my neighbor had a party where they imported a ton of them directly from Louisiana and had a backyard barbecue crawfish party, basically, and just had them all stacked on a table. And I just sat at the table and ate them the entire party. Jesus Christ. And they were amazing. Oh, my God. I also watched him boil them alive individually. Have you guys gotten the TikToker who does the crawfish boils? I have seen him. He's been going for years. Mariah, why did you bring that? Why did you introduce that question? There was a video. I don't know if it was a Bon Appetit video or like some Conde Nast video.
1:39:05It was interviewing people from every state and asking them what they call a crawfish. Crawdaddy, probably. I was just in New Orleans over Christmas break for no reason. You mean Nala's? Nala. Yeah, I never knew that people called it Nola. Nola. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, there was a band there that I saw called Crawdaddy Problems. They were really good. Nice. Or Crawdaddy Issues. One of the two. Probably Crawdaddy Issues. Those are good. It's a funny name. But also I forgot about the whole Crawdad thing and it was everywhere. So you couldn't forget? True. Amazing. All right. All right. So, crawfish fact.
1:39:47Yeah. They can shed slash molt their shells up to 15 times within their lifetime. and each time they shed their shell, they double in size. Oh. Oh, my God. I'm glad they can only do it 15 times. That's a lot of doubles. That's exponential growth. They double in size. The difference between a level 12 and a level 15 is crazy. Wait, what's two to the 15? Do you know this off the top of your head? Ask the Raybans. Okay, two, four, eight, 16. No, I got this. 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8 ,183 16 ,366 16 ,366 32 ,722 How do you do power? No, I didn't. 64 ,000 65 ,000 Oh, there we go. 400 65 ,400 464.
1:40:54What was the number you said before that? It's 32 ,768. Oh, I went too far. Which means these crawdads, by the end of their life, can be 32 ,678. Wait, is it double in size of the size? Of the animal? Of the original size or of the new size? Of the new size. I think it's each time they just double in size. How does anything get 32 ,768 times? They're probably born like that big. Maybe. Microscopic. They've got to be. But even if it was a single cell organism, and then by the end of its life it had 32 ,768 cells. That makes sense. If it's one centimeter across when it's moles for the first time.
1:41:36Then it's 32 ,000 centimeters. Then it's 32 meters across. Huge. It can't be. It's got to be tiny. 33 meter crawdad. That would be incredible. Have you ever heard of dragon's breath candy? No. This is a TikTok that I saw recently, but they say it expands a million times because you turn it into a loop and then you cross it over and then pull it again. Yeah, yeah. But like a million sounds absurd, but it's really only probably like 20 times pulling it because it is doubling every time. And it looks like string. And it winds up looking like hair at the end. Yeah, it's so fine. But it's like a taffy almost.
1:42:13Interesting. My second tiny fact, not as exciting, is they walk forwards, but they swim backwards. Oh. Yes. Walk forwards. That I did know. That's all I got. All right. Fun fact. I also walk forwards. Swim backwards. That's it for this week on Waveform. Thank you guys for tuning in. We had, of course, a lot to talk about. Hopefully everything we talk about is up to date. If it's not, you can expect us back next week with updates on all this stuff that's changed since this time. Updates on our crawfish facts next. It happens. Sometimes crawfish get updates between Wednesdays. Just like my mattress, the crawdates are getting updates.
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