Should You Wear an Apple Watch to a Wedding?

41:34Yeah. It's a big phone, but it's a normal looking phone. Yeah. A few manufacturers recently switched from lithium ion to silicon carbon batteries, and you can pack a lot more energy density in that same package. That was a very quiet update that we didn't really hear a lot of fanfare about, but that's actually a pretty major thing. It's probably because a lot of manufacturers, instead of actually giving you more battery capacity, will just make the phone thinner and have the same battery capacity, which is probably what's gonna happen in the iphone 17 slim or whatever that ends up being called i keep seeing that the air or whatever yeah yeah but i do appreciate that they're improving battery density in a meaningful way because there's always all the hype about the graphene battery or some crazy breakthrough battery that's not really usually how it works usually it's just slow improvements over time and this is maybe a three to five to eight percent improvement in battery density but that's the difference between 5 000 and 5 800 right you could get a six you could get a 7 000 milliamp battery in a phone now so it's wild they put a 7 000 milliamp battery in here yeah and a fan 24 gigs around 24 you can see it through the side too wow dang yeah that's wild and a headphone jack they have space look at this they've always just telling you 7 000 milliamp and a headphone jack and a fan they've always had space they've always had space Andrew something crazy I would maybe switch to that for a little bit it's kind of sick I just think it's one of the prettiest finishes I had seen on a phone in a long time it's just like very industrial kind of like Gundam-esque and I like the battery life and I would miss literally everything about my current phone but this is as opposite as your iPhone purple mini as could be but I think in spirit it's kind of the same you know what i mean it's like no i need you to explain that yeah it is yeah yeah this is the iphone mini spirit animal look i i'm not using an iphone 12 mini because it's better than any other iphone right i'm using it for two reasons i'm using it because i already have it and i'm using it because i love the finish you know what i mean like if i really cared about my phone to that extreme degree i would just get a better iphone for at this point like a hundred dollars because i could get a better iphone and get an iphone 13 you know and that's the spirit of that thing you know what i mean like it's got a great finish it's already in the office so i wouldn't need to pay for it and uh and yeah so i think i think spiritually that is the 12 mini purple finish of bizarre android phones i'll just point out all the differences the 12 mini is one of the smallest phones in the past decade facts this phone has a 6.85 inch corner to corner 144 hertz 2000 nits OLED display yeah that's pretty big it's gorgeous it is huge yep yep it's about the size of the battery i think that's about where it would fit in the corner of the phone jeez uh i will note the iphone 12 mini also had a decent camera i don't think this phone is gonna have that good of a camera it's just a hunch i haven't tested it that much but it is use your camera when you're ripping subway surfers with your fan on so it doesn't matter there's also no bump so i imagine small sensors no camera bump at all which is cool make the phone a little thicker and do that but that is a another difference uh the iphone has i mean this is a nice purple finish a pretty lilac color not too offensive this phone has text all over the back it's got a big x logo i don't know why it's not the twitter logo and it's not it's not the snapdragon 8x elite logo so what is the x is it x games mode it's probably X games mode it says cooling system on the back it's got the ROG or it's got the the red magic logo it's got a lot it's busy I would say there's another difference seeing you hold it up like that it reminds me of how the battery of like the Hummer EV is the size of a Honda Civic that's exactly what I was thinking it has a headphone jack Ellis likes headphones but what do you do about your Apple watch Ellis how much RAM does the headphone jack they can have.

45:42See? This is why they're being sued by the US government. But, yeah. Honestly, airdrop would be the thing I miss more than the Apple Watch. Because then I can start going to weddings again. True. The iPhone 12 mini had 4 gigs of RAM. How much does this one have? This one has 24 gigs of RAM. Does this really have 24 gigs of RAM? Gamers can't afford this. If you're a gamer, you cannot afford this. I'm sorry. this phone might not be too expensive i gotta look up but yeah that's that's what's going on big new batteries new higher battery density new chips massive new interesting camera stuff those four phones all came out in the last month basically in the u.s which is pretty cool um and there's also a phone we're expecting to come out next year which some rumors are starting to spill about a little bit which would be the galaxy s25s uh number one i would also expect those to be snapdragon 8 elite phones at least here in the u.s but number two there's a rumor about this keeps coming up chi 2 yes what is the what is the deal with chi 2 in this phone is this happening or not probably there's well it's kind of weird because there's an a rumor from ice universe but ice universe didn't tweet it someone else tweeted that ice universe said it so i'm very confused about that part but there are so many articles saying ice universe says chi 2 and the S25, but all of them are sourcing it from a tweet from someone else.

47:12Take that as you may. This is not the first phone with Cheeto. That's the HMD Skyline, which I'd never heard of until I was looking. It's really weird. It's a badly rated phone. Okay, cool. All you need to know about it is that it tries to do the curved aesthetic in the front, but then for some reason, it's also square. Oh, this is the Windows phone aesthetic. Yes, exactly. exactly look at the screen of it wait what the which wait i think oh doesn't hmd own uh nokia yeah and they did the nokia lumia so this is just the same company i guess so it looks like the front of the pixel fold yeah the first one oh that's but with like the size yeah you're right you're right you're just the side of it yeah yeah it was not rated very well okay yeah um but yeah so chi 2 we've all been dying about chi 2 and then there was a bunch of questions so what was confusing is the gsm arena article about this said that we don't there's two profiles for chi two one called epp and one for mpp but then david found a wired article that explains the difference is essentially that's extended power profile or magnetic power profile biggest difference is one has a magnet one doesn't have a magnet so everyone on reddit's like is it gonna have the magnets is it not gonna have the magnets the magnets is what we really care about here yeah yeah um do you want to read the quote from the article okay so wpc's paul golden which i did an interview with when we did our q2 episode actually he was quoted in this wired article and this is a quote from him he says epp refers to a device that complies with the specification but is not officially q2 and thus cannot use the logo or be referred to as a chi2 device golden told wired in an email that such devices would carry the chi logo not chi2 and packaging and or marketing materials have a required statement that the device not does not contain magnets any device labeled chi2 is mpp which is magnetic power profile and must contain magnets so i remember actually when the hmd skyline came out at first and everyone was like is this chi 2 is it not chi 2 because it has the magnets but it doesn't work with some chi uh device chi chargers that's because the magnets are in like a different arrangement or the the charging coil is in a different place it's confusing effectively if if you have the chi tube branding if there is the little two right below the chi logo it will have magnets okay so magnets does not mean chi too but chi too does mean magnets correct okay and what so i guess what we're going off of this as is based on what ice universe saw so if this was which we don't even know because he didn't even tweet allegedly um gosh that if they saw the logo somewhere on the phone or the marketing materials if it's a g2 then we should have magnets yeah is what i'm getting from that's what the wireless power consortium who standardizes Qi says.

50:18And it seems like most leakers are seeing things that are marketing material, boxes, like CAD renderings and stuff like that. So I'm assuming the reason Ice Universe is saying Qi 2 is because of seeing one of those things inside of a leak, which makes me think they saw the logo, which would mean magnets. That would be good. I hope so. I got plenty of magnetic accessories. I just want to use... Still think it's one of the best things that every single phone needs, not just iPhones. Yeah. For every car out there that doesn't have CarPlay, where you put your phone up on a magnetic dock, it's just been iPhones on those docks so far.

50:51But I would love to put my Galaxy S25. Yeah. Or a phone with a case. Or a charger phone while it's on there. That'd be huge. That'd be fire. Okay. Well, I hope that comes out. All right. Well, we do want to take one more break. We'll be talking about Sora and some other stuff right after. But before we take that last break, we got one more trivia question.

51:16trivia dude so we were talking about the apple watch earlier being allowed at weddings or not but do you remember the apple watch edition hell yeah the gold one the twenty thousand dollar 18 karat gold apple watch it ranges in price from 10 000 to what what was the most expensive version of that too expensive for a thing that will become outdated and get slow it already is it was outdated less than 12 months after it was released indeed i remember that because i almost did a video i was researching about the fastest outdated products of all time and i read that the apple watch edition was just it was discontinued like 10 or 11 months later and that was discontinued well they stopped doing the edition gold thing with the next apple watch like the next year so it's like you just bought a 10 000 up to up to some crazy number very expensive watch wow and uh yeah you literally could have just gotten the gold colored one for so much cheaper i think they're very shortly started making gold.

52:16That's tough. I'm trying to remember the price. Okay. Well, we'll think about that. Answer's at the end like usual. We'll be right back.

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53:04All right, welcome back. Is this video real or AI generated? Who knows? Who knows? I can prove it's real. You can prove it's real? Five fingers? All my fingers are moving around normally. It also has audio. Physics is working. Audio is a really good sign. Physics, moving things in realistic ways is a good sign. Okay, so we're real, for sure, guaranteed. That's what an AI would say. But we just got Sora's official launch this week. Sora being OpenAI's AI video generating model. And we got early access to it. we got to publish an exclusive early review of it i prompted it probably 300 times i did all kinds of stuff i was trying everything i possibly could messing with the features diving around and there was a slack thread that had like 200 plus replies in it yeah and it was all of us just sending you random things yeah remember when blue sky first started and there was like the hell thread yeah that's what that was for us in our slack it was just one slack thread of like hundreds of videos I was messing with it and I just put in the Slack like, hey, if anybody wants a video from Sora or wants to try something, just let me know.

54:15Mariah's keyboard started smoking. We were prompting like crazy. And we learned a lot of things about it. We got the hand-selected videos before that OpenAI showed us. But now we got to try our own stuff and really figure out what it's good at. You can make all kinds of stuff. There's obviously the parameters that you have in OpenAI. you have a chat gpt account and it comes with the chat gpt plus account right so if you're paying the 200 bucks a month this is part of it now which is i think i think that's what it's called i think it's pro for the 200 but let me make sure oh pro pro max but anyway yeah we we tried everything it was possibly capable of the headline is that for the 200 a month that chat gpt pro subscribers are already paying sora is just now a part of that it's just looped in which i think a lot of people sort of let's i'll just give you this first and then we'll do it so plus you get 50 videos a month with your 20 a month subscription to like chat gpt subscription up to 720p resolution five seconds duration pro which is the 200 a month you get up to 500 videos unlimited relaxed videos I have no idea what that means there's a little relaxed mode lets you cue additional videos to be completed when the traffic is low up to 1080p 20 second duration and 5 concurrent generations download without water mark Jesus Christ and learn more about everything so those are the differences so we'll just start so I essentially had unlimited free reign of like a maximum capable version of this.

56:00And so we're putting in our own prompts instead of just looking at what was provided from the last early look we got early in the year, which was hand-picked from OpenAI. And so we got to figure out more of what it's good at, what it's bad at, and what it could actually be used for today. So watch that video. That is the best way of getting all that information. I think the TLDR is it's good at abstracts. it's good at uh really really crude like basic title slide type stuff what it's bad at is generally physics now videos have moving objects in them that's the important part and i think when you you generate a photo you can get increasingly good at you know high resolution photo realistic images but a video has things that have to move in different ways and that is usually the giveaway of an ad generated video is it doesn't know how fast to move something or how to fold things on top of each other or have them like overlap in front of each other often things with legs moving the legs will switch between each other object permanence is not really that good like it's not it's not amazing at that stuff but But...

57:19It's still crazy that it's making 1080p 20 second high resolution videos. so yeah that's it's been interesting to watch and it started a lot of conversations in various departments number one about like still the sources the where where is it trained like how does all this actually come together and is it stealing from people like me who have uploaded youtube videos i made a i made a prompt that just asked to see a tech reviewer sitting on a desk with a phone in front of two displays. And it had this plant on the desk. And we've called it the tech reviewer plant, like the classic tech reviewer plant.

57:57It's not just us, but it's tech reviewers. Yes. So maybe not 100 % our stuff. Yeah. But I asked for a tech reviewer. You asked for a tech reviewer to put the plant all of us use. And that video was just publicly available. So my car is publicly available on the street, but you can't steal it. challenge accepted there's there's a lot of questions around that still the other question is um would you even want this to be good like is this a tool that we're ready to unleash upon the world in the year 2025 no and the fact that you get to remove the watermark with the with the pro subscription is so ridiculous yeah this is funny i was testing this and it was evolving right under my nose as i was testing it the minimum resolution was 360p and i had that in my script and i was writing that down and then it was suddenly 480 oh so the lowest resolution is 480 now and you can do up to 720 with that account but 1080 is still the max and the lowest resolution videos take 20 seconds to generate if you make a five second low res video the highest resolution 1080p 20 second videos can take three four minutes to generate um i think to some people it wasn't exactly clear that this is all in the cloud like your computer it doesn't matter how fast your computer is you can queue up three four five different ones all at once and it doesn't matter they're just happening on open ai servers uh and it's just there's like this little moment of thrill when it's done and you get it back and you watch the video that it made and you're like this is crazy this is not a real video it's also interesting because most of them the first one second is always like impressive and then it like devolves from there that you did the one where you uploaded the photo of me playing ultimate frisbee right and it's like me catching one and at first it's like he caught it oh he's coming down that's kind of wait he's rolling on the ground now he launched 20 feet in the air like yeah yeah so there's a feature where you can upload a photo and then tell open ai to make a video out of this photo and so the video that you the photo you upload will be the first term in the video and it'll start to move from there so you can upload a video of a person like standing still giving thumbs up and it will make a convincing like video of somebody giving the thumbs up but if you give it a moving object like a person flying through the air or even a car or a bird flying or whatever immediately the physics yeah go nuts and it's typically not very accurate it looks crazy so we did see that in our testing as well um the one thing that i was most impressed by i would say is simulated drone shots that would be my number one most impressed thing.

1:00:39Yeah. Where if you gave it a landmark or even just a terrace that you describe and ask for a drone shot of it, it can give you a high up, slow moving, high resolution landscape drone shot. Yeah. Everything. You just solved the New Jersey drone mystery. It's open AI. Knowing they gave you the exclusive look at it. They wanted to get as many New Jersey landmarks as possible. For those who aren't aware, There's been mysterious drones spotted over. Car-sized drones. I haven't seen any of them yet. I saw them. You saw them. I was the total non-believer. I was making fun of them so hard for a whole day.

1:01:19And he's like, those are planes, David. What are you talking about? Because everyone's videos of them just look like planes. And they are like propeller-less, like unmanned. I was making fun of everyone. I was like, this is so stupid. Everyone's an idiot. and then I'd drive home and see three of them go right over me. Pretty low down. I'd guess a little lower than helicopter height. So way too low for these plane-esque things to be flying. Did you hear it? I didn't. I was in my car. Plane-esque? I don't want to call it a plane. No, no, I did. I am egg on my face. I got crushed that day. I don't know what they are.

1:02:01Even the FBI is still like I'm not scared by any means though because the lights are bright and on there not trying to hide themselves from it whatever I don't want to go like conspiracy theorist here but I'm not worried about them I'm where you were now I'm like I haven't seen them I don't know it seems kind of like a plane to me but okay aliens for sure maybe I'll see it anyway yeah so you can make drone shots you can make drone shots with Sora and we'll pull that off you can watch the video the one with Mount Fuji the one with El Capitan the one with the the bay what was that called i forgot it this is a california landmark but did you try with like cities by any chance i did one so yes i did one with the golden gate bridge and it looked decent but the cars on the bridge were going totally wrong speed so that was a giveaway but the bridge looked incredibly accurate they always drift into the other lane and just like and like disappear disappear like dissolve into each other totally the physics dead giveaway the other one i did new york city in the fog and i had the empire state building poking through the clouds and i I think I showed you that one.

1:03:02That one, the Empire State Building looked accurate. And as I panned out a little bit, I think David pointed out the Chrysler Building nearby also looked accurate. But then the rest just looked like New York City. I couldn't tell you what direction we were facing, but it seems to be able to do that too. So there is plenty of blowback from people who are like, this sucks. I don't want this to exist in the world. And I totally get that. especially the fact that you can they this is another thing they added mid-testing is the download without a watermark button that was not there when i started testing it such a move i feel like super weird you have to have the pro account to do that um the fact that you can do that at all and you're just this is a we're going into a year where let's just say fake news is a thing people are talking about it's a concern um that the fact that that's real at all is very concerning for a lot of people.

1:03:56That was one of the first videos you sent was like the two newscasters talking, and I thought it was real at first glance. I was like, oh, what video clip is this? And you're like, no, this was the AI. Dude, that clip is - We don't, they still, they have a safety team, they have the AGI team at OpenAI. Wait, they don't? OpenAI? No, that was the joke. They fired all of them. So here's what I'll give them credit for. And I know this is going to sound like very little to a lot of people, but I'll give them credit for this. They seem to be able to identify and refuse to do certain types of videos.

1:04:29So anytime anyone's likeness is involved, they won't do it. If you ask for a prompt with someone's likeness, it will modify your prompt. If you upload a photo with someone's likeness, it will refuse. If you upload a photo with someone who appears to be a minor, just by a visual identification, it will refuse. If you ask for any violent or disgusting acts, it will refuse. and generally i mean i haven't gotten it to do anything that i would consider objectionable in a way that would like like literally making an actual fake news clip but that clip that i that was the early in the video that we're talking about is such a perfect representation of this which is at first glance it looks like a real video and then in two seconds you're oh all the text is garbled like none of this makes any sense but and there's no audio so it's like they're not saying anything it's just a two second video of some news anchors but it's immediately in this uncanny valley of i know that this isn't real but if i wasn't checking i might not have noticed and this is the worst it's going to be from here on out and that's a lot to digest i have a question for you yeah remember when they first announced sora and they were just you know showing all these clips that they were generating and obviously open ai is going to showcase its most believable clips the ones that it's really collected to make people think wow this is amazing yep would you say that it feels like they've improved it since they first announced it especially as a user it's hard to say because we didn't get to use it so i don't know how long those videos took to generate versus now i don't know what their prompt looked like then versus now to me or if they like handpicked things behind because like we gave them prompts back then and they gave us stuff that they said was just what it created but we don't we don't know how many times they adjust the prompt exactly it to me in general seems like it's gotten marginally better at some of the basic stuff uh we did see it make uh like one or two landscape shots before I got to try way more landscape shots.

1:06:38Turns out, yeah, that's a huge highlight. It's like pretty good at those. But yeah, it's hard to see a trajectory. Yeah. It's kind of just launching now. It kind of feels like they got pressured into releasing it because Runway was getting better. Google's Imogen was coming out. Right. So that's the thing. There's a bunch of other, there are other image generators and video generators now that exist. Yeah. And this is one of them. This is, you know, there's a bunch of channels that cover this, like AI tools as they come out. And Sora, if I've watched enough videos and I'm judging this correctly, seems like one of the most capable video generation models.

1:07:09But it is like brand new. So, yeah, TBD if there are other better ones coming out. We should also mention that OpenAI had given early access of Sora to specific artists. And a lot of them had gotten together and leaked the model online about a week and a half ago. So that could also be another reason why OpenAI decided to release it. like if it's already available in a hugging face repository it was temporarily available got taken down but it's out there on the internet and you can never completely erase something from the internet so yeah they're doing this like 12 days of ship miss thing where they're announcing a bunch of new features so this is like day 3 or something like that right so yeah it's launched it's out into the world we'll see how it goes see how it goes famous last words I will say I looked up some of the like different places on reddit people posted our video and i it really feels like there's two camps of how they're reacting to this is like this is terrible it shouldn't be released into the world it's so dangerous and then the other half a bunch i saw is like this product sucks it's censoring so many things i can't even do this and this and this so why would i even use it so yeah it seems like they're striking out on both sides um but yeah well if you strike out with if If you are successful with one of them, you will guaranteed fail with the other because those are the polar opposite sides of the camp.

1:08:31Yeah. But yeah, I mean, they have to be safe as best as they can. I'd be worried that there's no way of making the side that's like this is dangerous. They're never going to please those people. So they're going to want to please the people that are saying you're taking away too many of our things. Yeah. And make it very capable. Yes. Yeah. That's terrifying. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. I have a question. Yeah. So you were saying that you were trying to like get it to do something questionable and it wouldn't do it. Those are restrictions that OpenAI has placed on it themselves, like with their UI, I'm assuming.

1:09:04It's not like an inherent thing in the model. That's a good question. This was, yeah, as far as I can tell, because I'm just a user using the end that I've been given access to, this is a UI thing. I don't know if that means, I assume the model is capable of lots of things. It's just Sora is the UI that is restricting what it's able to do. Yeah. I'm sure that when you put in a prompt, like the language model knows what words it does not want to work with. And so it just changes that to something else or says you shouldn't be able to do it. Because the whole thing about large language models is it relates words to each other anyway.

1:09:38So you probably don't have to do that much work to kind of like blacklist certain types of words. And people are going to try to break it. Yeah. It's only been a couple days at this point, but I guarantee someone is going to find something crazy that it can do. And then there's going to be an article and then there's going to be an update. That's what's going to happen. Yeah. So we will see. Yeah. We'll see what that ends up being. All right. Speaking of AI stuff again. Updates. Yeah. Reddit has just launched its own sort of AI chatbot in a way. It's not really a chatbot. It's more like a search engine and a chatbot had a baby.

1:10:15And effectively what they're trying to do here is they're trying to stop people from Googling blah, blah, blah. reddit because then google gets to eat up that ad revenue and reddit obviously wants to keep people on their site as long as possible already make that deal with google though so they made a deal with google where chrome was the only browser that's able to index reddit after august of 2024 which in my opinion should be the most antitrust thing that they're going after right now because reddit is like the number three website in the world or something so anyway uh what this new Reddit AI Answers Engine is, is it is a thing called Reddit Answers.

1:10:54And you go on the page, and it gives you a bunch of examples where you can just ask different questions like, what's the best vacuum cleaner? Or what should I do if I want to change my hair color to this, etc. You go on there, and it basically gives you a list of generated answers, but with direct hyperlinks to the conversations and it doesn't say you should do this it says in this thread people say that this this this this this yeah so reddit i think okay whether or not this is like a good i don't love chatbots you know but whether or not this is a good thing i think reddit went about it the right way actually where they're not actually saying we the reddit chatbot we reddit the organization says you should eat five rocks a day it's gonna source its answers it sources the answers and says but but in a very direct way and says people in this thread say this and then you can click that button go to the thread and it'll talk about all those things very smart from them honestly if they can get people to actually use the service um it is actually quite well formatted and i think it's more like a competitor to google than it is a chatbot it's not available yet right i have access to it can i see it well you're at least I did earlier that I didn't I don't think I have a button that says keep me updated so they take it down they didn't like give you access because no I have access to it right now no I mean is that just because you're a tech reporter though no no I don't know anyone at Reddit but they know you well they don't know sometimes I just know you I don't know well that's weird I have access can I try real quick yeah sure can I ask you guys a question well this because this is something I've been thinking about lately when you're on Reddit when we are on Reddit.

1:12:37How do you determine how trustworthy a comment should be? It's a great question. Like when you're reading a Reddit post and someone in the comments is like, here is information. Yeah. What is your what is your personal veracity test? I mostly take everything with a grain of salt and then I do Google's off of that information. It's the same way that I would use like Gemini or something like that. It'll tell me something and I use that to go Google other things, but I don't just believe what it says. Right. And if they don't provide links, that's not necessarily a red flag for you. That's a red flag.

1:13:11Okay. It helps if they provide links. It helps. I would say the more discourse there is based on the comment that I found, like, because it's really easy to just have a comment that's upvoted, that can be botted. Who knows? It's a small thing. It could just be like a comment and then a bunch of people saying, that's great. That also could be botted. But if there's like legitimately like multiple trees of conversations coming off of it, then I at least get like a gauge of knowing that that's 15 or 20 people that might be part of a conversation. Even if it's not 100 % true, there might be useful information in there.

1:13:46Yeah, for sure. Totally. Yeah. That's another really good point. That's generally how I look at Reddit. You guys should give me a prompt and I'll do this. It wouldn't do is Steve Huffman a giant loser. I guess it's too easy of a question. Yes. I was gonna say, typically, if it has a lot of upvotes, I just believe it. Ask it. ask it should andrew when is the correct application for a multiband compressor versus a dynamic equalizer okay marquez what about you how do you determine what's true so okay yeah context is everything if if i know enough of the context already like if i'm in a subreddit i've been in a lot and i know the poster or i know something about this already then it's kind of like asking ai it's like a confirmation of what i already knew if it's something totally new then I'm with David.

1:14:34I'm taking that information and then either following the source links or going and Googling myself. Almost all the time. Subreddit is really important because with SEO, having links on Reddit is really important and there's lots of subreddits out there that are literally for people to just post links to increase SEO. So if you can get into a subreddit you know is already active, it has upvotes in that, it has comments in that, that's a good sign that it's real people talking about it. Also, know how to sort because if you're looking for something that is like the best recommendation for something then often the most upvoted one is a good place to look but if you're looking for something that has not been tried before then sorting by controversial might be better yes no i remember in like 2012 when i first got on reddit and i was so excited about it because i was like this is such a good system if people are upvoting it it'll bubble to the top and that just means you get quality information.

1:15:28But there's a thing called the hive mind on Reddit, which is where if most people think a certain way, you are more likely to think that way. So I have I have experienced this myself before where I have gone to some sort of question and I see something that's very highly upvoted and I go to upvote it without even really reading much of it. And then I go, whoa, hold on. Let me read this. People want to be part of groups. And so they they go to think and do the way that the general group of people thinks and does. So you really need to make sure that you're taking your time there. I just did Ellis's question and Reddit answers.

1:16:06When is the correct application for a multiband compressor versus a dynamic equalizer? Is this one that has a definitive answer? It has a pretty definitive answer, but I thought it would be a good one because there are things that are like absolutely true about that question. And then there are finer flavor, like taste, skill, very niche trade stuff. And so I only wanted to ask that question also because my answer to the question I asked you guys, how do you determine? I don't have a great answer and I thought you guys had really good things. But one hard rule that I follow on Reddit is that if someone ever begins a comment with insert occupation here, answer, you are lying.

1:16:42Like I have never, ever, ever. Doctor here. Exactly. I've never, ever, ever read an audio thing where someone began a question, audio engineer here or answer audio engineer here and then gave even one correct piece of information ever. And I just feel like there's a lot of people on Reddit. I feel like actual professionals would never do that. You know what I mean? I would never be like, hi, this is my job. So I worry about this bot being unable to determine the difference. But the answer I gave wasn't terrible. Again, at least it's not just an LLM that is making up a bunch of random stuff based on a giant data set.

1:17:23Like at least it's taking from Reddit itself and then directly linking to everything that it says. So I think that's an inherent strength because it's Reddit, so it's only looking at Reddit. Yes. So if you are Google and you're looking at the entire internet, that could be a pro sometimes, but it's actually harder to sort through. And if you're Gemini and you're not linking back to sources, it's almost less useful. Yeah. Where with Reddit, you are just looking through Reddit. So if you're going to give me an answer or even summarize it with an LLM, fine. But link me back to where you got it from because I know it's from Reddit.

1:17:57Find me where you got it from. Yes. So it's doing that. And again, you should take everything you read on Reddit with a giant grain of salt as well. Yeah. But you should also just feel that way about most of the things that you consume on the internet. Yeah. Is the part of this that's AI just the language like you're typing into the box for the search? Because the rest of it just seems like a search engine. which Reddit notoriously basically hasn't had its entire existence they used to use Google search engine for a long time and just narrowed it the beginning of Reddit they had a search bar when you would search something it would just do a Google search but narrow it to reddit.com which is how most people use Google anyway I'm sorry Adam I cut you off that was my question it does feel more like a search engine with some answer engine stuff in it so potentially helpful potentially interesting i think that if they mixed this in with their search bar and they also like gave you suggested subreddits and stuff based on what you were searching that would probably be the way for them to go can you type in there why do you have access and none of us do why do i have well what if it revokes my access what i mean there's a strong possibility that like eight months ago I signed up for early access and just don't remember.

1:19:18Alright, speaking of more AI stuff. Again. Remember when we used to talk about regular things? We talked about like going to weddings and stuff before in the past. iOS 18.2 is officially out in its stable version. This brings things like Genmoji. Yes. ChatGPT integration. Image playground. So if you have been waiting to use Genmoji or ChatGPT integration, this is out. Very cool. I have an immense amount of thoughts about Genmoji that we do not have time to talk about on this podcast. Really? About Genmoji? Yeah. I have thoughts about you having thoughts about Genmoji. What's that? How could there be that much to...

1:20:03Oh. Because it's not an emoji. It's a sticker. It's a sticker. Do you want my rant about this? Okay, here's what I think Genmoji is. It's just an AI image generator who adds in the style of an emoji to the end of every image prompt. Wait, but it doesn't come up as an emoji? It's a sticker? So, okay. One minute. Get them on the clock. I can probably do this in one minute. I can probably do this in one minute. Okay, so an emoji is text, right? It's basically a pointer to this giant database that Unicode standardizes. Okay, now a Genmoji is actually what Apple labels as a sticker. Apple stickers are things that have existed in iMessage and other things in Apple for a long time.

1:20:44But now Genmoji are also stickers. They reduced the size of stickers to be the same size as Gen... That was not a minute, right? That wasn't a minute. No, it wasn't. That was 30 seconds. But this is still part of it. Okay. They reduced the size of stickers to be the same size as Emoji. And so Genmoji are also the size of Emoji. and apple used a special type of image generator that basically only is trained on the apple emoji character set right so it skews everything to look like an apple style emoji they also introduced a new api called dynamic image glyph api which makes emoji genmoji and stickers all act the same way previously emoji only work uh emoji are the only things that could be used in line with text because they are text now with this new api that they're introducing genmoji and stickers can also be used in line with text unless you are texting an android phone perfect in which case rcs just got borked because a genmoji because it is trained on the apple emoji character set is inherently looks like an apple emoji yeah when you send that to an android phone it just appears as a giant png yeah it's actually a tiny png it's a horrible tiny png it's bad well it's a big png is it yeah i've i've gotten it from i guess when i did my text sample thread it was just like a tiny little at least i didn't click on it and zoom in maybe it was bigger but it was a small png it didn't look great i texted my sister uh jen moji of oh my pumpkin devil and this is how it came out on her phone wow just enormous taking up the entire time maybe they've changed it since then i guess the 18.2 update is well this is when i this is when it first came out oh so when i did that video it was like i sent it to an android phone and it was but on your iphone was it because on the iphone it's huge it's bigger than usual yeah but then on the android phone it's even bigger oh my android phone had a tiny with the black box with a black background with the black well either way okay yeah you can it's it's another way of hooking you into the i message thing yeah so but i also think that being able to generate more images to express yourself is better so net positive there's sort of this there's sort of this back and forth you know what i mean okay yeah that was a good solid 90 seconds thanks times four that was okay that was not not six minutes.

1:23:13Anyway, whatever. In the video, I'm going to have a real timer going and the viewer and listener will know right now. Place your bets. How long is that timer? Anyway, if you want to try that out, you should update your phone. You should always update your phone anyway. If you're my dad, please update your phone. Update your phone, y 'all. Well, I think that's it for this week. We talked about everything and then everything in between. There's only one thing left to do. What? Trivia.

1:23:412025 that pause is going to get longer until the last episode is going to be a two minute one year pause get it if you can get it like two minutes long we can just put an ad break in there yeah exactly question number one you can now get a hyundai on amazon or soon can get a hyundai now right now right now right now i know what i'm doing after work today um but uh it's not the first time really expensive stuff has ever been sold on Amazon. So I'm going to lead you three Amazon listings that are real. They are links you can visit right now. And you have to tell me which one is the most expensive.

1:24:23Hit it, Adam. Number one, quick, simple, easy, SEQ, fully equipped, double story, two bedrooms, prefab, expandable container house, 40 feet by 20 feet luxury home stairs included free bed set with terrace. Listing number two. Queen Victoria, Banco de Londres y Mexico. 1 ,000 pesos, 1905 dated stock certificate with dividend coupons attached uncancelled. I don't know what uncancelled means. The way of Bashkir artist expressionist Gafur Tamirinov. which is the most pricey.

1:25:07And I think for this one, I'm going to have all three of you read your answers and then I'm going to tell you the prices. Are we ready? I'm ready. Flip. All right. Who would like to read first? We all put different answers. That's exciting. Oh. so I put the fake money the fit no it's real money it's just old I think the old money costs a lot of new money you know how much that's depreciated by now or appreciated inflation yeah I put that yeah but it's really old I also put the peso peso peso I put the way the alright everybody the house the quick simple two-story prefab house with stairs with stairs included $44 ,200 the Hyundai cost more than that that's one star the pesos cheap ones are$23 ,000 $250 ,000 is there only one quantity available or what do you mean like is there only one in existence available on Amazon can you buy three or something Yeah, well, because like the house, there's probably multiples of those in the house.

1:26:29How many are in stock? Somehow, this listing has 11 ratings. And does it have a quantity selected? Yeah, three left in stock. You weren't joking. Wow. Our painting, The Way, by Ghafer Tamirinov, goes on Amazon. there's a buy now button for 32 million dollars giving David the point do not click it wait a minute I need a dash button for that painting it is not a prime item so you will have to wait until after Christmas that's such a bummer it just shows up with USPS also just a quick side note a few weeks ago two weeks ago maybe Adam switched back to iPhone and he texted me like at night like hey just to be like it's a blue bubble and I like free I was like oh my god you're back like I can finally send you and so I was doing all the like inline message animations and sending him all sorts of stuff and I was like and I could finally do this too and I sent him like the Venmo widget request for$100 ,000 anyway Anyway, Adam.

1:27:46Thankfully, I did not click it. Okay. Quick update on the score. Marques with one. Andrew. Zero. One, two, three. Way back. With zero. So back. So back. David with two. It's so over. Oh, man. So, next question. Speaking about the Apple Watch, the Apple Watch edition was gold-plated? I think it was just gold-plated, right? I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. It was ranging in price from$10 ,000 for the base model to what? How much? And closest without going over. Let's make it interesting. They probably have the same amount of gold. So they're probably not that different in price. It's probably like$10 ,200.

1:28:31I do think that the differentiator between this model was like a special band. Like a leather clasp with gold or whatever. Okay. But how much was that entire package? I honestly don't know if I'm way too high over or way too low under. Same. Exactly what Johnny I've wanted. Flip him and read. What do you got? I think you might. Okay. I think it might be over. I originally thought it was$120 ,000, but I put$28 ,001. Nope. I put$20 ,000. Nope. I put$80 ,000. Nope. All way over. It was$17 ,000. Oh, my God. Oh. Wow. We found a way for no one to get the point. So it probably came with like an Hermes band or something like that.

1:29:17Oh, nobody gets the point. Wow. Did it come with an Hermes band? I don't know. Probably. Sure. Yeah. Probably. Sounds like it. Cool. Damn. Yeah. Well, there goes my chance to catch David. I got really excited when you made David answer second. I was like, I nailed it. 80 grand, baby. Okay. Well, that was a lot. That was a fun episode. It was all real. I promise. Nothing was ad generated this week. This week. but next thanks for thanks for listening thanks for watching if you haven't seen the videos that we talked about they will be linked below Sora Review Smartphone Awards all sorts of other fun stuff but until next week see you later bye Waveform was produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Roman we're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network can learn your outro music was created by Vane so bingo good save

1:30:21Can I sort all items on Amazon by price?