Tech We'd Like to See Improved!

36:16YouTube, ABC thumbnail testing, but pair those thumbnails with titles. I like that idea. A thousand percent. Simple. I'm sure it's very complicated, but to me it's simple. Titles and thumbnails are paired packaging. Yeah. And if I can only ABC test thumbnails, I need one title that matches all three. Yeah. which is way harder. Yeah. So, yeah. It can't be that difficult. I just think it's a very intuitive thing, and I think YouTube knows that that's an intuitive thing, and they're still trying to figure out how to do it. If I had that feature, I would just add not clickbait to the end of one of the titles.

36:54Interesting. Just all of them. I think that's the reason we don't have this feature. How the Renaissance changed AI photography, not clickbait. Not clickbait. But only half people get it, so then they can argue about if it's clickbait or not. Kid work. Base iPhone, but 120 hertz. It's time. That's not exactly a revolutionary thing. I saw a bunch of people tweet this at us, yeah. I mean, that's... Yeah. They call it ProMotion, and Apple will stubbornly not allow it to be on non-pro phones, but come on, bro. It's 2024. Anything called Pro is not going on there. Yeah. Slack, but with working reliable notifications.

37:33Yes, please. Which I know is impossible. I get it. It's not going to happen, but we're trying to be realistic here I know high in the sky ideas this is crazy stuff it's wild how many Slack notifications I missed because of how bad the notification system is what bro don't you read Slack? bro didn't you see my Slack message? I can't wait someone pull up Ellis' Slack right now it's just white straight down the left side I also think that there's an issue where like if you have a computer open that has Slack on it and you don't you often don't get a notification on your phone because the computer was like oh you saw that and they're like no I was not at my computer A lot of the other ones are also, it's like, it shows like three messages in three different channels and you click it and it goes to just whatever your last channel was open.

38:15Yeah. And then you don't see anything there and then you have to go find them or you're just like, oh, that was it. And then scroll away. And then you're like, or sometimes it says you have like three unread messages in this channel. So you go to it, you read them and then you click off the channel and it still says you have three unread messages in that channel. I just want to put this out there. Okay. Because I feel like I am at the tail end of a lot of slack based slander. I've worked here for almost three years. I have never missed a deadline. I have never missed a meeting. Hey. No, no, no.

38:46Because I am on top of my game, okay? So what? I'm not participating in 35 group chats at once, okay? I'm here. I'm present. I'm locked in, day in, day out, baby. Okay, here's another one that I think I don't actually care that much about, but I think a lot of people do. Tesla, but with CarPlay slash Android Auto. every car but with carplay and android auto yeah i mean a lot of new cars have it and there's a couple notable ones that don't that would be more appealing to a lot of people if they did have it i think last time i may have said rivian but with android auto rivian's another one they're stubbornly against it lucid caved they didn't have it and then they added carplay um i don't think tesla's going to but i do think that if you add carplay or android auto you need to add it elegantly because i'm trying to remember that one car that added lucid lucid had a little window so bad yeah but i bet it still performs better than the software on the lucid it definitely looks better that's crazy to say out loud air carplay in a like cropped rectangular window and a trapezole screen looks better than your native software that's really depressing that's tough or or then um the mercedes eqs software that looked like it was running windows media player they all do that i like that the mini cooper baby it had the best i mean that's a twerking ai dogs there's no better than that the germans really got to figure it out we hit peak ai years ago what are we doing yeah last two for me anyway google pixel but with the s24s display specifically the anti-glare coating on the ultra or yes i would like a high-end pixel with the S24 Ultras display, which everything about it, the flatness, but also the refresh rate and responsiveness, the brightness, the anti-reflective coating, and it seems more durable.

40:40I don't have nearly as many visible scratches on this phone that I feel like I usually have on phones that I've used for this long. I've used this phone for six months. Sounds not that crazy, but in my world, that's wild. That's crazy. So this is the best display on any phone I've ever used. Marques, I have bad news for you. I'm not shy about that. What? the Google Pixel 9 is reportedly going to use the same display as the iPhone 16 Pro. Okay, so I saw this headline. I think that's also fine. The iPhones have really good screens, really bright screens, really color accurate, and maybe a little bit more anti-reflective coding this year after what Samsung did with the S24.

41:14It turned out to be great. I also want to note that I opened Threads yesterday, and it fed me a post from someone who had screenshotted your comment to a tweet saying that you used the S24 Ultra. and they just posted on threads and they said mkbhd uses the s24 ultra interesting and it had like 5 000 likes nice and i was like why is this interesting this is not interesting breaking youtuber uses one of the most popular phones what i yeah i took it on my tech man uses tech more at 11 i think a lot of people figured i used a pixel which every it's like every three months i pull the pixel back out and i like stare at it and then i go back to the s24 ultra because it doesn't have decks no it's not about decks it's not about decks it's the software man it's close if i could if i could do another one it would be s24 ultra but with pixel software but we're already so you know there is that pixel launcher that you can run on which gets you 70 of the way there but it's not quite the same yeah for me yeah last but not least a printer but actually works it works uh the printer industry would go under if that was the case so i feel like this is the same this is a soccer game i'm sorry football um i'm gonna get ready sorry sorry sorry sorry the second shoe is for the printer industry going under okay i got it yeah is there is Is there an element of like cars get sold, but really they make their money on maintenance at dealerships?

42:57Is that the same thing about printers? Is it just ink? It's basically the McDonald's Frosty machine thing. Yeah. Yeah. For people that don't know. Hold on. McFlurry machine. McFlurry. We can't go calling it the Frosty machine. It's the same machine. Oh, you said you specifically. I think you said ice cream machine. No, you said Frosty machine. I rescind the my man. Sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. Yeah. For those that don't know, there was a big conspiracy that ended up being true. where uh mcdonald's frosty sorry mcflurry machines that was an actual accident uh break constantly and there's a company that just fixes them that is like basically owned by the same people that make them and they have this whole industry where they break on purpose so that they can fund this other company tax things and it's a it's a ridiculous thing um what is the name of the guy on YouTube?

43:51Johnny Harris made the most popular video about this, but I think it's been covered by a few other YouTubers. I think it's one of his most popular videos ever. They are always broken. It's not just you. That's as much as I wrote on Twitter in the seven seconds that took me to come up with those. But we have plenty more from you guys, and I think what we should do is just go through some of the best ones and give our reactions to them. We have 15 pages. Oh. Of suggestions. That's why this is going to be a two segment on the pod this week. So, yeah, I think if anyone wants to find one. I want to just say what tier I think the product would be if it actually happened.

44:32Tier the product would be? Yeah. You have to give the product a tier before and after then. Okay, yeah, perfect. So we're not fully tier listing it, but we're kind of just seeing what the tiers would change from start to finish. I'll keep track of the tiers. Of both? Oh, oh, oh. I see what you're saying. Or we can just do new tier list. I don't know. let's just say the ideas let's put the ideas in it like that's an S tier idea okay starting at the top this one says from Amir S Pen support on the cover of the Galaxy Fold and yeah it's true the Galaxy Fold's S Pen only works on the inside screen so I think it would be nice if it worked on the outside especially because of how much more usable wait really?

45:11that's exactly what I said yesterday that's insane the outside screen is very usable as a regular phone but you can't use the S Pen on it what can we pick how we're rating these because like to me right off the bat this feels like an s tier response because it is something that makes so much sense yeah it feels like it's not that crazy of an ask but significantly improves the device the s24 ultra s pen only works on the exterior display but it's different because it doesn't have to work with a foldable like plastic oled cover thing so so i feel like if you make a pen that can all that can work with something that's really fragile it should be able to work with something that's really not fragile agreed personally i think this is s tier just because so many of us didn't realize that was even a thing i think that's an s tier i think this is an s tier reply i'm gonna go from all over the list here go off king i think this is a really good one and this is actually in the comment section of our last wishlist video he said select copy and paste in google messages or ios messages messages you can only copy the entire message or take a screenshot and smart select um why okay yes i have i had i had an experience with this issue recently so on android if you do the multitask thing it then allows you to select any any part of any message by the way wait you're gonna have to show me that later yeah so if you if you swipe up to the multitask menu and you swipe over to whatever window you can then hold on any part of any text and copy any snippet of any text.

46:47Wait really? I have to try this. It is great. This might be... Do it live. Nope. Didn't work. Didn't work for me either. It tried to drop in a smaller window. Exactly. Samsung's doing multi-window. Is that only on Pixel? Maybe. Because Pixel doesn't do multi-window. What is this? Oh my god. What did you do? Samsung does multi-window. It's trying to do... It's multi-windowing. Wow. Well, before they added that multi-window thing, you were able to do that. That's weird. Anyway, there's this message I've been trying to copy a tracking number that Jono sent me two weeks ago. And in Slack, you can't just copy a certain part of a message.

47:32You can only copy the entire message. Yeah. And it's really annoying because he wrote a bunch of stuff beforehand. He was like, anyway here's the tracking number and I just wanted to copy the tracking yeah normally I have to I copy it and then I paste it in the message thing for like sending it and then I scroll through that and copy the thing I need and delete all of it in an older version of Android there absolutely used to be a thing where if you multitasked you could just select any part of any message this seems super simple and one of those things that you'd use all the time yeah A tier i'll go easier just because i don't want to go back to back s tier but like yeah this i think that's an a tier suggestion yep here's one that i feel like they heard adam talking the other day apple watch to connect to all my devices not just iphone and be able to work oh no as a remote trackpad for navigating them that's why i added that wait that's not what i thought he was gonna say that you could just connect it to something else for the initial setup but a trackpad that's more that's that's s pro max that's like that's that's a good idea like if i'm just sitting on my couch i have apple tv why can't i just like use my watch swipe around select things yeah i guess you can use your t you can use your phone as a cursor on the tv already yeah so you might as well use your watch as a cursor it's pretty small that's pretty small yeah but if you're swiping left and right yeah i think i feel like that's pretty also with the crown being able to scroll with the crown oh yeah now i'm about who said this who said this out there terrence terrence bro whatever so adam screenshotted this so fast he responded 58 seconds ago according to damn right adam got this in the first minute of it being posted big brain terrence i like it i'm like i said s pro in fact i'm creating an s pro max here just for this i'm I'm going to say anything, but if it doesn't have USB-C, please put USB-C in it.

49:33Because there's this new Kodak Super 8 film camera that uses micro USB, and it's$6 ,000. And those two things should never, ever, ever be paired together. That should be a federal crime. I agree. The European Union would do it. I agree. We're just too baby to make crazy laws like that. Micro USB. Yeah. All right, we have one more before we should take a break. Sure. And I think somebody here will like this one a lot. iPhone 13 mini, but with good battery. Pro Max, S Pro Max. I mean, to be fair, the 13 mini had way better battery than the 12 mini. It did, but that's relative. I mean, the 12 mini is just weak.

50:15And the 13 mini was much better, but still below average. And I think if it had, by some miracle, like really good battery, like some Zenfone 9 type battery, it would be awesome. So you know how Apple is apparently like using new battery tech to make that like iPhone 17 slim or whatever and everything's going to have better battery life? They should bring back the iPhone mini. True. And with the silicon, this is something that they talked about before. Like especially with the new iPad that's thinner, they'd be like this new silicon because of how efficient it is, is the reason we were able to make it this thin.

50:48And I think if Apple is able to bring in, obviously, more efficient batteries, but also even more efficient silicon, they can go, ah, the 13 mini, 12 mini, they were ahead of their time. This new silicon, like, you could argue when the MacBook Pros were getting kind of slim and weak. We're like, it was ahead of its time. That Intel silicon was not it. But now we're ready for that again. We're ready for the mini again. I saw an Intel MacBook Pro this week, and I forgot how thin they were. And that just seemed like a bad idea. especially using x86 like why would they do that obviously they put an i9 processor in that thing and it had zero cooling they said let him cook she said let's make a computer that's also a george foreman grill that thing cooked that was so obviously a terrible idea they did do that insane yeah this is twice as thick and it uses a chipset that's way more efficient yeah they they really i mean is no one would buy it it's still a mini phone yeah i know if they're being real i would buy it but while you guys were mentioning it that kind of makes me want the old macbook again no the like 12 inch macbook i want the 12 inch macbook with an m series processor yeah that's what i'm saying and a full screen display in hindsight a lot of apple products were ahead of their time the trash can mac pro could be a good computer with apple silicon but they just fried an intel chip in there instead and put a bunch of radio i love that they have that with the intel chip and now that they could fit something in the trash can they still have it in that monstrosity cheese grater yeah yeah well it looks a lot better than the cheese grater you know what's funny the cheese grater doesn't support any gpus but the trash can actually had gpus in it it's crazy wait that's a great point they didn't have flies buzzing around it fair okay we'll take a quick break we have way more from you guys after the break but of course since we're taking that break trivia trivia dude whoo so ellis said earlier that he had one terabyte of stuff in the trash can of his computer what was in there that's a lot of smarts but also a lot of data correct marquez that is a lot of data nice i got a point yeah how much data exactly though.

53:03How many bytes is in one terabyte? In binary. Closest delta will get the point. Oh, bytes? Yes. Oh, God. Wait, can I have a pen? David, you're overthinking this. Like I can already tell. You don't need to convert bits to bytes because we're asking about terabytes. Oh. Yes. Got it. You should remind them that this was already a trivia question. Also, this was already a trivia question and we picked it because we just thought advanced risk machine nice and what is acorns risk machine it's a month are you happy james yeah we'll be right back

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54:36All right, welcome back. We've got a bunch more of your suggestions for best possible products to exist, and we're going to rate them, and we're going to be as harsh as we possibly can. Do it. Meaning we won't give them all S tier because some of them can't be that amazing. But we have a bunch more from Twitter and from Discord. What have you guys found? Okay, I have one here that I'm interested in your guys' takes on because I think we might have varying levels of interest in this. Physical fingerprint readers on the back of the phone. Yep. I would like to read them back. Do you? I loved it. Yeah, I guess it's just a feature, but like, so take maybe, any every take the phone you have right now government mandated the phone i have right now okay that plus usbc here's everything the phone i have right now the s24 ultra has the ultrasonic fingerprint reader and it's really good there are phones that have slow optical fingerprint readers that i would rather have it on the back a pixel being one of them to be honest i think pixel like put my like the where the g logo usually is on the back give me the fingerprint reader there yeah that's cool here's my take against it okay i had the pixel 7 i think that had it under the fingerprint and i liked it at first but it was a little slow so when i got the zen phone and it was on the side i was like i'm gonna like this so much more because it's more physical it should be faster but i got so used to my phone just sitting face down on the table and me just putting my thumb on it that then my thumb on the side of the phone got really weird or i would have to also do my index finger that now going back to the s24 i love the under display yeah and i wouldn't want it on the back interesting yeah i think i'm full under display now the zen phones was really good it was on the power button and it was so fast that if i just picked up the phone with my finger on the power button it would unlock before i could see any of my notifications sometimes that's a bad thing though right so i developed a thing where i'd pick up my phone with just like the tip of my finger to press the button so it didn't read so that I could actually see my notifications.

56:35That's a great point. And it worked. Yeah. I like that. But face down on the table, you can't press the back of the phone's fingerprint sensor. You can. But why would you unlock your phone while it's face down on a table? No, no. Not face down. Face up. Oh, when it's face up. Oh. That's what I mean. Oh. Yeah, you can't unlock it. Then you double tap. Sorry, I thought you were like you could unlock it somehow. Yeah, face up, you can't. That's fair. Okay. So this is like B2. I think I'm against on the back. It's labeled as controversial. Sort by controversial. I'm with it because the Pixel 4a had it on the back, and that was perfect.

57:13Best fun of all time. It was freaking amazing. I would just take it out of my pocket already unlocked. I feel like I can't do that with this. But only if you put your finger in the center. See, this solves both problems. Because you could take it out with your hands on the sides, and then you could look at your notifications. or you could put your hand in your pocket with your index finger going. Yeah. And it would have a nice little like ridge so you could identify it in your pocket and just it was smooth. So good. All right. I found one. Okay. Unless you have something to say. Wait, wait. Can we agree this is a B tier?

57:39I was just going to say like, I feel like for any non-flagship phones, I would want this there because if it's not like the top of the line under display, I would prefer just the fast. The only one that has the top of the line under display though is the S24. Basically, yeah. There's the S Ultra. Ultra. yeah a bunch of oppo ones and i think i'm sure there's a couple but yeah they have ultrasonic there are others with ultrasonic oh but i thought the optical ones can get kind of yeah slow they don't work in the rain yeah okay i found one um an apple watch that can wirelessly charge without the specific apple watch charger like a regular wireless charger every watch S tier S tier it is so annoying that you have to put it on a very specific charger that sort of like cradles it correctly I will say it is I have the Garmin watch which also has a proprietary charger which is annoying really annoying but I will say the Apple watch one to me is a little more annoying because it's wireless I should be able to just drop it on a Qi charger yeah like if you give me the cable it's proprietary cable whatever annoying be better but like whatever i'll deal yeah but like you're so close also you can charge the airpods with the magsafe and with the apple watch charger and that is the only product that you can charge with both chargers are you serious yeah i use it i do it every day yeah it's great because i have this i have this charger that has a Apple Watch charger and an iPhone charger on it.

59:13And I put my AirPods on the Apple Watch charger because I don't use an Apple Watch. And I put my phone on the Maxi. Most people don't know that. Ellis has used my charger on my desk and I've had the AirPods on it. And you've taken it off and put your watch on it. Yeah. Well, locked in, bro. Day in, day out. On top of this, Garmin watch, if it's not going to be wireless, do USB-C. Stop giving me this proprietary It's awful. Dang. Is it just because it's shallower? I don't even... I don't know why. Does it really use pogo pins too? Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely a reason, but it's annoying. Being a real outdoor boy with this, so much gunk gets caught in there, and then I have to fish it out sometimes.

59:57And then you lose one cable, and you're just screwed. Yep. Dang. At least it lasts like three weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Does the Galaxy Watch have Qi? Or does that also have a proprietary charger? I think it has Chi let me look it up I think it does that would be so I think the reason a lot of these are is just because of the way watch bands work floats the watch and doesn't really let it sit flat and they're the smaller ones fit there yeah but it would still be nice to be able to somehow make that work apparently it's based on Chi but it's too small of a coil to use regular that's what I kind of figured the reason like I don't think a regular Apple Watch could fit on a MagSafe charger because the MagSafe coil is way wider than the watch.

1:00:39That's fair. Yeah. Okay, I found a really interesting one. Oh, do we want to rate this? Yeah, wait, what rating was that? I think that it's pretty good, but I also understand the physical limitations that would not allow this to work. That's not our problem. True. Let's say they sold it. S tier. At least A tier. I would say A tier. I could be swayed. I was going to go B, but let's go A. Let's go A. I think A. All right, I have a fun one. Yeah. uh sharon suggests ipod classic but updated to 2024 standards this would be usbc bluetooth a terabyte of storage i'm gonna throw in on top of what he said give it oled and an incredible battery and wireless charging and all that and 5g i think i do think that first there's kind of this renaissance of physical hardware devices coming back right now i do think that most people at this point in time do not know how to like load mp3 files onto a device that's like everyone is so streaming everyone's so used to just using streaming that people are not used to like oh how do i get mp how do you even get mp3 files anymore you know i'd rather have this as like the old not even ipod nano but like the clip just like updated because then if you're just running can i look status unknown aka sharon that tweets great suggestion can i propose an alternate thing sure that i saw someone on uh twitter in reddit someone on reddit someone on reddit uh made this really cool thing where they put um near god i'm having a brain fart moment at the thank you wow locked in day in day out they put nfc chips in all of their vinyl records and then they put a little uh in the sleeves and then they put a shelf on their uh wall and so they put a vinyl record on their turntable and then they put the sleeve on the shelf, reads the NFC chip, and then a projector in their wall turns on and projects all of the metadata for the album around the vinyl.

1:02:56Like when it came out, the track listing played on it. I thought you were going to say they have all the sleeves and they just tap their phone to the sleeve and it starts playing on Spotify. Right. But they have that too. But I do think if we're trying to get closer to our music, modern iPod classic, great idea. But people who can build innovative home launchers for Spotify, I think that's what I want. I guess I saw that as more of offline music listening and small form factor, like running and stuff like that. I don't think you get anything out of, unless you're like wrong and you are like a hi-fi nerd um i said it uh you're not going to get anything really out of like using an ipod classic versus streaming and in my opinion other than having a more intimate relationship with your music and i think there's cooler ways and i think there's cooler ways to build those relationships and i do i like this idea and i think that these things are going to get more popular as products like spotify who have such a grasp on the market start to push their users out of using it because it just becomes so expensive and such a horrible experience I think anything we do to increase the emotional value of our albums is Is important I will say to bring it back to this tweet I would use a Zune HD today with modern updated specs how is this has one at his desk?

1:04:29It's the Sony walker. How would you get the music on it? I don't know but I would have to have another modern updated spec which is a a store for music where every song is one cent and I just buy them for whatever. I don't know. One cent. I just like the idea of the Zune HD hardware being updated to being modern and then using that to play my music. I think that is the logical conclusion that I come to as well is I think about it and I'm like, ooh, a hardware device dedicated to music streaming. And I'm like, okay, what would that look like? Well, I need Spotify because I love my podcasts all in one place.

1:05:03I love made for you playlists, all that. okay so then now it just becomes a smartphone and I already have a good smartphone I do but what if I just had like a chair in an empty room and a Zune HD on a table and some headphones what if overall this idea is clearly B tier yeah but what if you could combine that with a revolutionary mobile phone oh my god a widescreen iPod are you getting it and a breakthrough internet communication device are you getting it sharon i highly recommend you go check out our friends at retrospect.com who do sell a ipod classic modded to 2024 specs you can buy this don't know if it's bluetooth don't know if it has bluetooth but you can get the bluetooth converter for 15 bucks on amazon usbc is sick i have a kind of niche one that i think ellis will like a usb switcher with more than four ports to swap between devices i agree we never found like one with more 3.0 USB 4 USB 3.0 ports.

1:06:09Yeah, that's definitely I would put this in A tier because this is definitely although I don't understand I don't understand. It's the same thing. I don't understand why the hubs don't have more Thunderbolt pass through. I don't. If you understand please let us know because I don't. If I could buy a small dock that had like 15 USB ports on it and I could switch between two computers with a click of a button I would. Some of it is definitely about power. But if you have a power supply if it's a powered hub. Yeah, if you can plug it in, I'm sure most people would do that to just make it easier to switch between two computers.

1:06:42I don't know. If you can let us know why, please do. Wow, that was so unloving. You were very into it. I think A tier said? I would throw that in. I'd say A tier for the people who are looking for it. The amount of people who are looking for it are probably D tier. Yeah, that's a D tier for me do you think that's a bad idea it's not that it's a bad idea it's such a specific use case yeah it's so niche it's more niche than s pen on the outside of the fold are you are you kidding when you're right you're right there's a lot of folds out there all right i have one that's a kind of interesting one because i'm curious what you guys takes are on this and i think it might be different from mine uh sarvesh says vision pro but made of carbon fiber reinforced plastic to reduce mass vision pro but three times as expensive so here's the thing about the vision pro apple went out of their way to make it as light as possible and as heavy as possible at the same time hear me out okay it do you need to borrow that tinfoil hat no no no this is just all facts we've seen the inside of the vision pro before at least i've seen the inside of vision Pro.

1:07:54And inside of that titanium or whatever, I guess it's aluminum enclosure, they have gone to extreme lengths to carve out extra mass. And all of the inside pieces are like the PCB are like mounted on carbon fiber, like they have carbon fiber inside the headset. Most people don't know this. It's like super, super light for some reason inside of it. But they are still the only ones that chose to make a headset with a huge piece of glass on the outside with a metal body and with like screens facing the outside of you. So it's clearly going to be heavy with all those pieces, but they've gone to extra lengths to make it light.

1:08:29It's really weird. So they had all these priorities. It's really well built. So I think what Sarvesh suggests is to take all of the metal and make it carbon fiber reinforced plastic. But I still don't think it would be a very light headset. You would still have a screen and a bunch of glass on the outside making it heavier than normal. So I think this is like a C tier because it's still going to be a heavy headset. I mean, I think what he wants to accomplish is a lighter Vision Pro, which I think we can all agree on. Right? Yes. The cheaper one probably will be lighter. If you're saying Vision Pro, you're still suggesting the screen on the outside and all these other things.

1:09:08I think you can make a lighter VR headset, but you're not going to have Vision Pro features. I think Vision Pro doesn't need to worry about actual weight, but balance of weight and how they could fix that. Apparently, there is a padding. Some company made some Vision Pro padding thing that you put on it, like the mask. And it's really, really, really good. And that came out last week, and everyone's raving about it right now. Interesting. Yeah. They said it solved all of the headache problems. Because whatever it's called is too thin. Yeah, the pressure that it puts on. It moves the pressure away from your cheekbones, which is where all that pressure goes and gives you a headache.

1:09:46Yeah. No, just like everyone else, I love the idea of a way lighter headset because Vision Pro is very heavy and uncomfortable after a long time. But yeah, that's my take on that. The headset itself is so weird. There's actually a ton of carbon fiber in it already. It's wild. How would you rate that? So I put that as like a C because it doesn't actually change the things that are bad about the headset. It's just a cool carbon fiber thing. Someone said Rabbit R1 if it was good. Yep. S tier. or worked or did anything? F tier. If it was good, it would be S tier because it's good. What is good? Yeah, that's a great question.

1:10:26A universal find my network that works with iOS and Android. That's like the dream. That's the one that's like... Government mandated. It's like, it's so... We all would love that. I wish. I don't see how... It's also like... They're both... I mean, the Android one has been having major problems, obviously. But if it worked correctly, then there are enough iPhones and Android phones that it's not really an issue that you need to merge both of them. I guess what would be cool is if it was the same network, could you use the accessories of the other thing? So if I wanted to use an AirTag as an Android user, would I be able to use it if they shared networks?

1:11:10But I guess I wouldn't need to because there's tile. But maybe just the form factor of one is better than the other. Kyle doesn't use Android's Find My Device. So if it was like a slim, because I bet there's going to be that Motorola Android Find My Device tag that just came out. Yeah, there might just be a form factory like better on the other one. So if it was all intertwined together, it would kind of ruin the ecosystem a little bit. The walls would be shaved down a bit, which is probably the best for all of us. I mean, yeah, S tier. I think that would be great. It's just one that's harder to get there.

1:11:45Yeah, I don't know. I think it's us too. I feel like there's already enough of everything. Nah, but it's... Well, yeah, but so why don't all those things work together better? We have nothing to lose but our chains. Okay, I will say on the Find My Device stuff, the fact that Google and Apple work together because of the AirTag stocking thing, so if you have an Android phone, it will give you a notification if there's an AirTag following you, and you can ring the AirTag from your Android phone if you need to find it because it's following you. That's crazy. That's like the first time that Apple's ever let an Android phone do anything to any of its devices.

1:12:23So we do know it's possible. Marques, I see you scrolling in this doc, and I feel like there's one you're going to mention, and if you don't, I'm going to mention it. You can go for it. Google Tasks, but they say bring back natural language processing. They said they had it apparently at one point, but now they don't. If I take this literally, Google Tasks with natural language processing, pretty much. C tier. C tier? Because Google Tasks is already D tier. Basically, like, when you type in your task, if you say, like, it can pick up times and dates and different things and help just list it and send notifications based on that without having to be, like, you could just say, like.

1:13:03But how do you take the trash out tomorrow morning? and then it will and then you don't have to then go set the time and date and everything you just type it in and it fills out the rest of it for the notifications aspect oh yeah which a lot of task apps do have and i remember david telling us about that david pierce telling me about that and thinking that sounds cool and i've stuck with google tasks and i do not have that yeah but i would like it interesting but i didn't like the other apps that did have it so I don't have it well they did integrate didn't they integrate Google Calendar into Google Tasks all the way around oh oh yeah you're right also there was a little update in Google Keep my beloved which I've used for many decades where if you use it on a foldable I think I actually have I've used Keep since it came out it was probably about a decade anyway if you use it on a foldable and you open the phone, you can have two different Google account Google Keeps next to each other.

1:14:06Oh, really? That's my nightmare. Double Keep. Have you seen my Google Keep? It's pretty... It is where my shopping list lives right now because that's where Google Home drops it by default. Oh. They haven't let you change that in forever. I'm surprised they don't put it in Hangouts. When you ask Google... Oh, my goodness. Add X to my shopping list, it's had several different places over the years where it's put that it used to put that in a web portal of just your rabbit hole the rabbit hole the google hole as good as that yeah and now it's the g-hole it was google keep it moved it out of google keep to a web portal now it's back in google keep yeah so i really hate that we are completely dictated by these tech overlords i want i want more control of my life i this made me think of google chat which i didn't even know was a thing chat it's not gchat or it used to be gchat it used to be gchat then it was hangouts now it's google chat or just chat yeah it is really terrible yeah really bad we like a friend group of mine who used to use gchat then hangouts then went to slack then all started hating slack and like just randomly started messaging in chat now in google nothing about it works whether you're inside your email browser as like a pop-up or the app is the worst app i've ever used in my life and google employees have to use that as their main thing they don't they don't use slack i would rather use google google chat for everything it's just constantly in the app like scroll to newest messages and you can see you're at the newest messages and then you click it and it just scrolls up for like three minutes and then you don't know where you are twitter does that sometimes too it's an incredible how bad it is yeah i cannot believe it wait so what was the feature that we're talking about is the s tier natural language processing in Google Tasks.

1:15:55I don't know if I'd consider that natural language processing. Really? Yeah, natural language processing is just being able to synthesize what you're saying. Yeah, and then turn it into an action. And then use it. I think it counts. It's a basic thing, but it's like if I tell a regular task app, remind me to take out the trash on Thursday afternoon, it will just write, remind me to take out the trash on Thursday afternoon and make it a task for today. but if you have natural language processing then it will say remind me yeah but you can also say take out trash I feel like companies have hard coded like keywords like that in before to like go straight to actions I count that yeah but wouldn't natural language processing be like if you're like bruh there's so much trash I should do something about this in six days that's extreme natural language bruh then your Apple robot goes and cleans it up for you.

1:16:53That is A. That's S tier. That's AI. Oh, that's Apple intelligence. That's AI. Nobody wants any of this. I don't know. I kind of don't know much. I don't know if any tech company has shipped a single product that a single person has wanted in about five years. That's not true. As we all say on our Apple Silicon Macs. We got Apple Pencil Hover. Nobody asked for that. Erasing things from the background of our photos. pretty good yeah i'll give mark has that yeah but it's not it could be better honda moto compacto nobody asked for that checkmate but people don't know what they're the stuff that famously the stuff that's come out that has been like surprisingly awesome nobody was asking for but some you've been in the sun too long just enjoy the tech with us yeah i'm tan man david's touched too much grass he's like is this tech stuff really worth it i was in the mountains i I was like, I don't need a phone.

1:17:51I should just move out here. Should we do one more? Okay, I have a great one. Okay. I think we would end it on. Wrap it up. This is S tier for me. I don't really care what you guys say. This is S tier. Okay. iPad mini pro. S tier. Yes, S tier. S tier with OLED. Highest S tier. Yeah, I think that's S pro max for sure. This has got to be S pro max. This is, I want this. That is S pro max. And the calculator. throw in like a mini apple pencil so that it's not like a huge one you know because the apple pencil is pretty big apple crayon if you put it on next to i mean even with the ipad air already and the ipad pro it's it's pretty big so a smaller apple pencil to go with it and then yeah tandem oled 120 hertz give it all the features give it all the cameras all the battery usbc also So iPads and the mini would be best for this with MagSafe.

1:18:48Yeah, MagSafe. Because then you could use it like the Google tablet, like the Pixel tablet. Yeah. Smack that on. Which seems like a very obvious thing. Pop it on the HomePod. Come on. Yo, I was looking up. It would look like a little mushroom. On the HomePod mini? Yeah. Or no. Maybe the main set is on the pod. Either way. I was looking up iPads yesterday. i've gotten so close to buying one a few times and i had the ipad mini up and if this was a real thing right now yeah ipad mini is just i heard there is a refreshed mini coming it's so if it had mag safe heard that and then i heard it was canceled so now i'm not sure and as the only ipad mini user here i really want it i'm a theoretical ipad mini user i want to be an ipad mini user so badly but i can't put myself through it with the existing ipad mini so yeah just hoping also the 11 inch pro is so good that it's hard to yeah but just give me like a basically like an eight like a nexus nine remember nexus nine there's also a nexus seven seven was nice too but it had big bezels it did so maybe eight but it had a really nice soft touch back yeah we're getting off track uh i have yeah s tier i have one i have one more s pro max for the episode ends it's trivia but it's right now and i'm doing it s tier oh f tier if i get it wrong this music right now there we go i i cannot believe i messed up that button press that's like the most embarrassing point of my if i get the question right it's s tier if i get it wrong it's f tier all right question number one banana bin is one of very is one of many very useful utility apps for mac os but mac os's close cousin ios has had more than its fair share of completely useless apps which of the following ios apps is a fake app a blower an app that runs your phone's speaker so hard you can use it to blow out candles b bov turbo mount your phone to the windshield or a pillar of your car and it will display a fake boost gauge which reacts to the movements of your car it will even lag and play a sound to make it feel all the more real c cookie clicker and i'm reading from wikipedia the user initially clicks on a big cookie on the screen earning a single cookie per click they can then use their earned cookies to purchase assets such as cursors and other buildings that automatically produce cookies.

1:21:30Upgrades are also available and can improve the efficiency of clicks and buildings, among many other mechanics that allow the user to earn cookies in different ways. The game lacks a conventional ending. Or D, Chromios. The App Store now features emulators, and what better to emulate than Google's smash hit of an operating system, Chrome OS. That's right. All of your favorite Chromebook apps and experiences are now available on the iPhone. How do you spell Chrome OS? You spell it C-R-O-M-I and then capital OS like Chrome Chrome Chrome iOS. Oh Chrome iOS. Yeah. Real clever.

1:22:20Bytes.

1:22:25All right, guys. What do we have? Who wants to go first? I wrote A. Blower. A. Blower is incorrect. Blower is a real app you can download from the App Store, and it's not even free. You can pay to screw your speaker. How does Apple allow that? It's going to just ruin your speaker. Don't ask. Marquez, I see you also put Blower. No, I know. Oh, what? That was a joke at the bottom. My actual answer was Chromios or whatever you said. Chromios is a fake app. I made that one up. Very good. That's what I said too. Andrew also put Chromios. Yes, you thus far cannot run a Chromebook on your iPhone. I was thinking of it, but I thought Apple would never allow somebody to like blow out their iPhone speaker.

1:23:21I do just want to say also to every single member of Gen Z watching this, I am sorry that you had to just pretend that Cookie Clicker was fake. I know you all have cookie clicker installed. No, I know I know about cookie clicker. That's why we really yeah That's not an NFT project. No, no, it's it's real. It's like it's not just real It's like a smash like huge hit among kids similar to that banana game on steam Yeah, but this predates that by oh yeah Yeah, so we actually already did question number two because Adam fiendishly sprung it on our hosts during one of our commercial breaks So we're gonna cut to that footage now But first but quick update on the score Marquez with 12.

1:24:01Nice. Andrew with 13. David with 13. Oh. And Ellis. One, two. Carry the one. Dang. So there's a thousand? That's what I'm doing. I'm just... I'm not even trying. And we're back while Marquez and David try to cheat their way into the answer. It's called mathematics, Adam. There's a whole... Okay, you know what? I'm gonna cut this for later What's a thousand times a thousand? No, stop Wait, what's happening? I didn't even You better hurry up You're gonna edit this like that? Yeah, they were trying to answer it now So I'm just gonna get the timer going Can I have a timer later? Andrew's spending a lot of time confused right now He could just be getting an answer Normally I'm the brutal one here But this is ridiculous and flip them and read

1:25:06so uh Andrew what'd you get off the top is that a trillion a hundred thousand nope David yeah it is I wrote one billion Marquez so I think I wrote a trillion it's a trillion oh frick yeah yeah that's a hundred thousand If I had more time to do the math... And I think everything I wrote there is correct. You can ignore... That I do not know. The reason it's 1024 is because there's 8 bytes in a bit, so you do that, multiply it by 1000. I wasn't going to get that in. I wrote that there is a terabyte is 1000 gigabytes, a gigabyte is 1000 megabytes, a megabyte is 1000 kilobytes, a kilobyte is 1000 bytes.

1:25:47Oh, I thought... So then I... The 24, if I understand correctly, and I encourage any and all computer scientists to tell me how wrong I am in the comments. But the reason it's the 24 is because human brains, because of our fingers and toes, like to count in a base 10 system, otherwise known as the Dewey Decimal System. That was a joke. Shut up. That was a joke. That was a library joke. But computers, because they do not have toes, are not super into base 10. Does Tesla have toes? I don't know, but they will soon, I'm sure. They counted base two, and you can't get to 1 ,000 evenly if you're doing powers of two.

1:26:29You can only get to 1024. And for a long time, this didn't really matter because what's 24 bits? But you can't get to 1 ,000 evenly? With powers of two, the closest you can get is 1024. I think it's two to the 12th. You're thinking of divisible by two, Yeah, not the power is four. Two to the third is... You mean just like one, one, one, one? No, two to the 10th power is 1024. Two to the ninth power is 512. So it's two times two times two times two times two times two times two times two times two. Those are computer numbers. Oh, that's what you're saying. Exactly. And so, technically, we measure computer storage in an alternate base two system.

1:27:14So not terabytes, we would say Tebby bytes. Bingo. Let's go. Tebby bites. So a terabyte is, as Marquez said, a trillion bites. But there is no hard drive in the world that actually has a terabyte on it. It actually has a Tebby bite on it. And they just assume you don't care enough. Yeah, right, right, right. And we're back. And Marquez was the only one that got that answer correct. So now everyone is tied at 13. Oh. This is the closest game we've had in such a long time. This is awesome. So maybe the trivia extravaganza should only be worth single points. One. One point at the end. No, it's going to be like 47 points.

1:27:53Is it even a trivia extravaganza if it doesn't render? Oh my gosh, that's so funny. There's one. There's one point to win at the end. We'll call it trivia extravaganza journey to carry the one. Marquez would end this podcast, but he's too busy clicking cookies. Well, that's been it for this week. clearly there's going to be a well there's going to be way more fun stuff next week like usual. We always have fun stuff to do. But of course thanks for suggesting all the stuff that you did this week on Twitter. And of course follow us over there if you have more suggestions or if you just want to follow us to see what else we post.

1:28:28Okay, that's it. Thanks. See you later. Bye. Waveformer Spruce by Adam Alina and Ellis Rovin. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our interaction music was created by Vane Silk.

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