The Next iPhone Will Be…Orange?

36:12But before we get to that, we always take some quick breaks. So let's do that for some trivia.

36:21Was the first one a yawn? Guys, we just talked about a laundry robot for a while. And since this game of trivia, this question we're about to do, both of these questions this episode, in fact, are not going to be for points. And the reason they're not going to be for points is because last week we recorded a season finale trivia extravaganza. Let's go. And you, our lovely audience, will find out who won later this month. But yes, until we kick off the new season, actually, and then also later this month, we've got, I guess this is coming out in August, right? Yeah, later this month, we've got some other special trivia stuff for you.

36:59So get ready for that. Wait, really? Yes. Yeah, you were not in that meeting. Oops. We'll fill you in. You're going to be excited, trust me. And so will you at home. But David, you're going to be really excited. But guys, I've talked about a laundry robot for a while. So this is not for points. I wanted to do one of our special kind of not really tech quiz, not tech at all. Because laundry robot, reject modernity, embrace tradition, whatever. What? But so this robot, right? The whole the value proposition is like it does your laundry. You do other things, right? But what traditional New Orleans dish was cooked on laundry day because it was such a hands off thing to cook.

37:41You could do your laundry all day at the same time. A little flip flop. I feel like I know this one. Nice. I have a guess. Cool. There's two that I'm jumping between. Well, I will only accept one. Dang. well I think I know the one well answers would be at the end like usual we'll be right back go pellets

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40:18All right, welcome back. We got to talk about this Twitter iPhone 17 Pro leak that just started sort of bubbling up. There's a picture that's probably hit your timeline, at least by now, of a guy caught in public with an iPhone 17 development model out in the wild. He's got an unskinned phone and he's got this phone in a case, which typically is how employees have to test these phones without showing off the new design, which is top secret. um and so it sort of blew up on twitter i i don't think it's as big of a deal as people seem to be making it out to be if it was just this post i don't think i would have put it in here but we got this post and we got the sony dickinson sony dixon yeah model so let's just put it all together because there's a couple interesting things it makes the dummies seem more believable when we see this it's got also a security i think yeah i mean i can barely tell that the one in public is the new one yeah because it's got this case that conceals like the new camera bar thing yeah yeah which we kind of all know is coming so at this point yeah we see the new models and the dummies and they all have this camera bar which is new for the iphone 17 lineup allegedly uh and we also have colors which are new for the iphone 17 lineup and are also kind of interesting because didn't we talk about this last week no we didn't well no we did last week i said you thought this was like the regular iphone colors oh no that's the pros no that was that was pixels oh that was the pixels wait this is the same colors though no the orange No, because the Pixel was p***s.

41:49Lemoncello. And a great Lemoncello. I forgot. But I did last week say these have to be the normal Pixel 10s because we all know Pro phones aren't allowed to get good colors. And here we are with an orange, like bright orange iPhone Pro. Yes! So the models are showing the Pro iPhones come in black, white, blue, like a darkish blue, and orange, which is new. I can't remember the last orange iPhones. It's going to be SE. oh 10r yeah it was peach i don't think they called it peach but that's the color it was and then the regular iphones the non-pros are black white starlight or whatever the sort of off-white version is and then a barely blue well according to this it's the 17 air is black white starlight blue and then the 17 is black white gold yeah like that then like a pinkish pinkish It's like a light blue.

42:40So Cosmo and Wanda phones. Is that green or blue? I'm bad at colors. The Tedar, they call it coral. It's like orange-ish, right? Well, this comes after Samsung released a press release about how Z Fold 7 customers are actually buying the blue phone for once. In the Z Fold press release, it says, While black is typically the preferred option among Z Fold customers, Blue Shadow received nearly half of all pre-orders. furthermore coral red exceeded expectations making up nearly 25 percent of pre-orders of the flip 7 so it seems like colorful phones are making a comeback and maybe that's why these companies are actually starting to use but also this like bright orange is kind of insane for apple it's sweet if this is real especially on pro have correct me if i'm wrong but like the models never do a good job at getting when the pros usually have like a frosted to them so So is there a chance this could be a little frosted and a bit more muted than this?

43:39I think it's kind of accurate where the body is mostly frosted on the pros and then the camera visor is glossy. That's what it looks like. And then on the non-pros, it could be the other way around. You know what this looks like? This looks like liquid glass. The frosted, the glossy camera bar kind of looks like one of those liquid glass. That's actually true. It's always kind of been that where it's basically clear and taking the color from the bottom. but since it's now twice as large yeah it's way more like it yeah yeah um also on the pros and on the air they put the flash on the right side so that's the reason that the camera bar is so big um yeah it's very interesting i wonder if this ends up being real i want to potentially toot my own horn because i don't remember but i'm pretty sure i said this when we were talking about where does the air fall in the lineup and this looks like it's replacing the 17 plus yeah right yeah i think i said yeah yeah i think that's where i i took it and i think it makes the most sense here yeah it's like bigger but one less camera so you're getting more and less at the same time which is probably going to incentivize people to potentially buy the 17 if they don't want you know or just go to the pro yeah i think this is just like the part in their lineup they're the most confused about and they're just going to keep throwing things until it sticks because it was mini then it was plus now it's air yeah we'll see if this lasts two years also and then gets changed into something completely different yeah if this is the actual lineup this leak i think it's like one of the more exciting ones that apple has had in a long time just because the colors yeah just the colors and even like the camera bumps like there's actual differentiation between them This is the best iPhone thumbnail coming up where like the, all the pro phones are very different.

45:25The, the air is very different. The colors are like, this is, I can look at an iPhone and be like, okay, we're in this year's lineup. That's not potentially the last three years. The new picks, like the alleged pixel 10 looks in my opinion, much nicer than the alleged iPhone 17 or 26. You think they're going to call it the iPhone 26? Oh, I don't think so. well they didn't change any heart i guess samsung did that to align with the years on the s20 no you're right they did uh so apple did it with all their software at wwdc what they do with the hardware too i don't i don't know it's not out of the question because they did skip all the numbers i think they only did it with software because all the software like you probably have things with multiple like most other apple products don't have numbers associated with them they're just like about the year of it yeah but then just like the macbook pro yeah ipad doesn't have like it's the chip has a it's usually based on more like the chip or the software and like that's true yeah what if that's my guess i think it'll be 17 bringing the macbook what if they're just like iphone 2025 like they just start putting the year in there i guess that would be but if it's gonna launch with ios 2026 they'll do it this is why i said the card thing was kind complicated yeah and confusing 2026 iphone coming in september 2025 yeah there you go i'm also disappointed my cosmo and wandafone comment didn't get more love i still think it's blue that's why wait no these that's blue oh whoa wait you have a different picture this is the sun i'm looking in our thing you have a blue and a green the one i'm looking at only has blue and pink so that's why you didn't get a laugh because i was like wow moron have you ever seen this is the sunny dixon david and i were looking at the same photo which doesn't have a green can we just do that is my blue your blue thing yeah so yeah there's a pink and a green okay hence my comment yeah all right well i guess we'll see very soon i have one more iphone question yeah ellis what's your battery percentage yet someone asked me that in person while i was in and we actually had multiple comments asking what his better percentage was.

47:38We remembered this week. Guys, it's not too bad today. I have not charged my phone yet today. No, we're at 66%. Pretty good. When did you take it off the charger? Took it off the charger probably like 8.30. An hour ago. It's still plugged in. 8.30? My, yeah. Three hours. It's not that bad. Yeah. Okay. Nine hour battery. It does die so fast that I was traveling with an Anker MagSafe portable battery thing. And when I'm using the phone and MagSafe charging, the battery life just stays the same. That's really funny. Yeah. You should try the Ridge one, see if you get any more speed at it. I should.

48:19No, I should. I should. Yeah. All right. So actually speaking of - Channel Sponsor. I should try the Channel Sponsor Ridge one. Of course. Yes. Speaking of the channel sponsor Ridge One, there is a rumor of the Pixel 10 including Qi 10 with magnets. Qi 10? Sorry. Pixel 10. Pixel 10. We skip eight. It's just like a bolt of lightning across the door. And your phone is charged. Qi 10. There's rumors of the Pixel 10 having Qi 2 with the magnets built in. Yeah. Which I think would be awesome. Yeah. Because that would mean you could use MagSafe accessories. is you can use any of these magnetic things that just slap onto the back of the phone without a case.

48:59I'm a no-case guy. I'll throw skin on my phone sometimes, but I don't usually have a case on my phone, so this is exciting for me. I just thought of a reason why they should be implementing GT with magnets. Sorry, and then you can actually explain the good part of this. Every phone manufacturer should do this because the chance of people then breaking their phones and having to pay that manufacturer to fix it is far increased because then you have the magnets in the phone and you don't have to buy a case. Oh, you mean because... Yeah. Right. Why wouldn't they all have? That's Apple's ahead of its time.

49:27Well, but Apple also sells MagSafe cases. True. Add magnets to the case too. Yeah, but you only have the option to go no case with MagSafe if the magnets are built in. Unless you get a case that has magnets in it, like the iPhone cases. Well, yeah, but then it's not a phone with no case because it has a case. Well, yeah, true. Sure. Yeah. It was a bet. Go on. Explain the rest of it. No, it's okay. Okay. Just to explain this. So like, I don't know if it was earlier this year or late last year, the Qi 2 standard got released, which is the basically Apple donated, donated, a bunch of magnetic standards to the wireless power consortium, which then implemented the Qi 2 standard, which we've been waiting for for a very long time.

50:11I think it actually was probably last year. but effectively every phone that has chi2 is going to have magnets in it now similar to magsafe which is very cool because magsafe is probably one of the coolest phone innovations most helpful phone innovations in a very long time then we found out that the wires power consortium separated out chi2 into chi2 and chi2 ready uh chi2 ready is basically saying that if you put a case on it that has the magnets in it and I'm assuming it has a little micro controller in it that says this is a G2 ready case it'll you know charge with G2 and it'll stick to it and stuff that made us very sad because I don't I run caseless I don't want to have to put my phone in a case just to use MagSafe accessories I think that's lame and you can already do that with like a$3 magnet that you can find you know on Amazon or whatever uh so we were kind of thinking oh no of course now google is just gonna do like q2 ready or whatever yeah but now there's a very very very strong chance that the pixel is going to have official q2 this comes from a leak from evan blast uh he has tweeted pictures of the pixel 10 pixel 10 pro pixel 10 pro fold alongside a new obsidian color for the pixel buds pro 2 in the pixel watch 4 but the most interesting thing is that one of the leaked images that he shared showed the pixel 2 with a new pixel snap wireless charger attached to it which looks very very similar to a mag save puck but with more rounded edges basically instead of being like sharp and uh that effectively confirms that it has the magnets built inside the phone because the charger is like stuck directly to the phone yeah so yes please that's very very exciting we've been wanting this i would love this I've been waiting for it for so long.

52:02I keep having to put my phone in a case that I do not want to use just because MagSafe is like that irreplaceable to me. Yeah. And now with it being built into the phone. Yeah. Basically. You go ahead. No, I'm a little nervous. I might get let down by this Pixel. It's lining up to be such a great phone. And I'm already like mentally going like, yeah, this is this feels like it's probably going to be my next phone. And then I pretty much have it on preorder. Well, you know, I was just talking to Ellis in the car this morning about this. uh but they i at first was kind of disappointed that they weren't going really flashy because it's the 10th one and i thought you know they did do something big like the iphone 10 was a very different type of iphone very revolutionary uh but considering their market share has been rising fairly significantly over the last like two to three years this exact current design of pixel which we've had effectively since pixel 7 where it's got the camera bar but it's rounded yeah I think that that's very popular and people are starting to buy the phone and their average sales have been going up and up and up.

53:07There's enough momentum that they don't want to shake it up. I think they don't want to shake it up too much. They just want to make it better. They want to make it... But it is kind of like jewelry. And this is why I said that I think that the Pixel 10 this year actually looks quite a bit better than the iPhone 17 if the rumors are all true, the renders are all true. We'll see. Yeah, so it'd be very cool to get that. If the renders are true, then the Pixel 9 looks better than this year's. iphone yeah that's good hey that's crazy yeah um but speaking of pixel very quickly this is kind of a little quick hit there is this rent uh there's a concept of these pixel over ear headphones that someone made on behance that looks so good and they look this is so good they look so so good we don't often tell you to pull over in your car if you're listening to this and like pull up the video and watch what we're about to talk about but you guys need to see this yeah these headphones look amazing so someone made this concept that's supposed to compete directly with like airpods pro um but it's our ipods max sorry but it is so google in every possible way like i could see this person being the lead designer at google for headphones um they look so good it's hard to describe them they sort of have this telescoping band that wraps around the ear cups and it is you know metal and then they have the same sort of like pixel gloss uh finish and color and then they have a few buttons that are like the bright orange color to kind of like accent it this this is interesting in the ear cup design it's so wild talking this much about uh like just a design that probably isn't even gonna be real but it just looks so good but like do you know how the um nothing ear headphones were like uh squircle and then a circle in the middle i guess that was like an oval in the middle of it yeah this is a way cooler and like sleek version of that this like nice matte like beige yeah where the circle then just like melts bevels into yeah the like square ear cup and then the buttons are on the bottom of that circular like beveled into it oh my goodness yeah it looks so good i would buy these he even has renders of it on like someone's head and they look freaking they look very amazing david said that he wanted to talk about this and i was so hype because i specifically want to beg google to hire him and make this real hire this guy yeah so sit hunt i think is i'm not 100 sure on pronunciation we'll put it in the show notes but like these are amazing there are some things tiny things i would change but i mostly like them a lot it's got a headphone you don't want the power button so there's i think two things i would change no i like power button the chrome the chrome arm on them would get like very fingerprinty so I'd probably want that to be matte, maybe.

55:48I don't mind it. It looks really cool when it's clean. That's obviously great. The other thing is I've been using the Sony WH-1000XM6s, and just like the touch control on the outside to go next song, previous song, swiping on the side of the headphones sucks every time. Every pair of headphones that does that sucks, and it reminded me of the Surface headphones. You remember those? Yeah, with the dial. Where you had the dial, the ring, where you could change volume and move. I kind of want a little bit more of that on these. So I see there looks like a volume rocker on these headphones. I want like a next song and a previous song without having to swipe on the side of them.

56:23It is kind of sad because Microsoft has effectively killed a lot of that product ecosystem. But during the life cycle of the Surface product ecosystem when it was at its peak, when they had the Surface Studio and they had the Surface headphones, that dial was sort of a fundamental kind of object because they had the dial for the Surface Studio, which was like this wireless puck that you could use for drawing and drafting and stuff. And they integrated that same design into the headphones so that it felt very cohesive. That's great. So yeah, Google could theoretically. Do you remember Surface Buds?

56:56Yeah, those were the worst. Those. Do you remember why it was that big disc and what the feature was for it? Powerpoint. So you could swipe in Powerpoint on your earbuds. Oh man. I remember reading that like press release. They showed us that at Microsoft and we all just went, uh, cool. Also, those were the most uncomfortable earbuds I've ever worn. They were the hardest plastic. Like, they did not mold to your ears at all. They were so hard. It was terrible. But it's a sacrifice you'd be willing to make to be able to move to the next slide. Why are you even wearing earbuds while you're talking to people giving a presentation?

57:33So you can be discreet about it. Like, if you look at the next slide here. Every time you're just like.

57:42yeah it was yeah those are bad that was bad they um they make clickers for that just so you know yeah but i agree with you i'm anti swipe on any headphones i want a physical button because i hate just like adjusting in your ear and now the volume and the song has switched and yeah you know what i've settled into because all these headphones have auto play pause and you take them off i hate that you know they i've started just using it for everything when i'm especially when i'm on a plane you know you can do the like cup thing for some of them where you can take one ear back or you You can hit the button to play pause.

58:11Literally, if someone walks up to me, I just... The music stops. Whatever I was doing is going to pause. The Sony ones that you can put one hand over one of the ear cups. Yeah, but I don't want to talk to somebody like this. That's true. I just don't like that. It looks so rude. Hey, David. I feel like... It just looks weird. And then mid-conversation, your hand just comes off. You start listening to music again. It is a pretty obvious cue. Your eyes glaze over. Yeah. I feel like I intuitively understand what's happening when you do that, though. No, you get it. It just makes you look like a jerk.

58:41Because you're not important enough for me to take off my headphones. I also haven't worn over your headphones in a really long time. But these Google ones are out. I've just been on so many flights lately that I've just gotten so fed up and I've just taken them off every time. That's just my default now. Yeah. Speaking of fed up, the Fediverse corner this week. Hey, baby! Would have been so sick right there with that, but we don't have one. That's true. You know what we do have? Trivia. Is this trivia federated? trivia it is not federated but wait bit chat no that's not federated though i know okay anyway anyway let's keep it classic so ip ratings those are a thing the microsoft zune had a what ip rating the original the original microsoft zune that is the question it had an ip is that a trick question it had an ip rating that's the question like what was the ip rating of the microsoft zoom oh 67 was its ingress protection rating

59:45i'm gonna have to think about that one i don't really remember the original zune very well i had the zune hd which was also not very memorable but the zune pro max i thought the zoom hd was like the famous one the zune hd was awesome i don't think it was particularly ip rated either particularly i have no clue what the answer is either our one plus phone we'll think about this one for a while. Answers at the end. We'll be right back. Cut and deep cut.

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1:02:09Welcome back, everybody, to the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I know I do this every time. I'm Adam. Okay. You may have heard a few months ago, I believe, that Eric Michikowski, who was the guy that invented Beeper, who we did a whole thing on, and then Beeper is now part of Automatic, and then I went to an automatic party about Beeper and then it was weird. The guy, Eric Minkowski, basically was able to get back all of the rights from Google because Pebble was sold to Fitbit and then Fitbit was sold to Google. And so Google eventually had all the rights to Pebble. One step also in between here is he already, like we talked about this a little while ago, he was relaunching Pebble, but he had to call it Core Design.

1:02:52Right, so yeah, I was getting there. Oh, sorry. So he was able to get Google to release all the copyright for the pebble hardware stuff so he was really he decided he wanted to relaunch it because now you know pebble was like one of the first smart watches but now i'm impressed that he got google to do that yeah i know they were like yeah i guess we don't we're not really doing anything with it wow yes they i think they open sourced it yeah so uh yeah now he's making it again it was one of the first smart watches and now everyone feels like they have too much of their phone throwing out throwing things at them all the time so they want less stuff and pebble because it was an early smartwatch is less stuff it is also not quite e-ink i don't think um it's e-paper e-paper but anyway one of them is right the other one is they both are okay he needed to call it core devices because he did not have the right to the pebble name right which was very funny because one of them used to be called the pebble 2 duo and then now it was called the core 2 duo which was an old intel processor uh but very recently as of i believe this week he was actually able to get the pebble name back so officially it is now pebble again multiple people in this house are super excited about this yeah there are dozens of us alex is already is it weird to order i mean i want to get one they're pretty sick that's the most shocking thing to me is that google was like sure you can just have like why did they even i guess i think they were just not planning on doing anything with it so they open sourced it still i mean they own it not anymore i mean when they did own it i just feel like i'm surprised that a company like google give it away for free would just give that away for free yeah and go through you're talking about the hardware or the name both both true that's that's all of what pebble is this will come back and bite us and we don't know how yet he did say like i commend him for this blog post because this This is how every update on a project should be ever.

1:04:48It is a simple, no bells and whistles, very text-based blog post. It's just like, listen, TLDR at the top, here's the good things, here's the bad things. Read about it quickly. You could read this whole blog post in less than 10 minutes and know everything you need to know about these watches. Yeah, DS summarize it for me. But he opens it up with, we've been able to recover the trademark for Pebble. Honestly, I wasn't expecting it to work out so easily. Yeah, I would not either. Can I share my favorite part about the Pebble relaunch? As someone who was obsessed with the Pebble when it came out and was too young to have enough money to buy one, and now I'm an adult, I can.

1:05:25All of the repo marketplace for all of the original Pebble watch faces and apps and stuff is still up. And these new core Pebbles, since they're running just an updated version of the OS, it all still works, assuming that the web services are still up. so like these watches are dropping with like thousands of apps and thousands of watch faces and like it's you'll get to immediately dive into like this super cool i don't know i am just yeah well they also and they're not called core anymore they just are called pebble time too now and pebble core 2 duo and yeah the core is in the model name yeah yes well at least it is on the website at the bottom no the website actually is not even updated or wait hold on he has it in here it's at it right at the top it is now called the oh this is it's called the pebble 2 duo and the pebble time 2 there's no core and they crossed out core yeah i'm still on the re-pebble website yeah on yeah okay sweet oh no pebble it's just called pebble now he got i am so excited you guys this is so exciting oh but when you go to pebble.com it goes to store.google.com he's gotta he gotta buy that well even i guess he doesn't have the domain he just has the name That's funny.

1:06:36Interesting. Even in the I want one, it's still called Core2Dio and Core2Time. He even says in the blog post, I've been calling it Core for so long, I'm going to mess that up. And there's like four instances in the blog post where he calls it the old name. That's funny. But I'm excited. Very cool. These look sweet. This is the farthest away from my Garmin watch I feel like it could ever be. And I kind of love it. Yeah. This is what I, you know, I don't like smartwatches in general. And so being able to have something that's like sort of a smartwatch, but also really dumb, but also has really good battery life, but also looks kind of weird.

1:07:11And has great watch faces. Yeah. I'm kind of excited about that. David, I've gone full circle with you. When I met, I was exclusively like an analog watch guy. Yeah. And you were a smartwatch person. Yeah. And then I watched you get into analog and digital watches. And then I got my first Apple watch and fell in love. Yeah. And exclusively wore that for years. And now we're both going to merge. No, now I'm back. Oh. I've stopped dailying. the i took a selfie a few weeks ago i think i mentioned i took a selfie and i'm a pretty little guy and uh i was just big horrified do you have an ultra yeah i have an or i have the i was testing the office's ultra one yeah we're gonna meet in the middle with an e-paper watch yes yes it'll be fun all right i have two small stories that i want to talk about very quickly um youtube jump ahead is coming to tvs i don't know if you guys know this feature i use the feature all the time yep uh i feel a little bit bad because i know it just skips the sponsor no one uses that feature on our podcast so it's fine that's true don't feel bad about skipping those sponsors because no sponsor marketing agency is smart enough to understand that that view's not going to the andrew our sponsors yeah we love i mean everyone watches ours that's true nobody's that's why we make ellis do them yeah so that's coming to tvs which is very cool because now when i watch on my projector because i often will sit in my bed and watch some stuff on my projector in the evenings.

1:08:29Nice. Quite nice. Can I do this next one? Sure. Because the guy who made the video that you wanted to talk about was one of the YouTubers I recommended in Waveform Recommendation Game so long ago. Ben Jordan. Yeah, he made that like driverless cars will never work video. He made the really good driverless car video. He's made a lot. He does this really goofy thing where he oscillates between like really serious stuff like the world is a scary place right now video and And then he'll do this video, which is called. Why don't. Yeah, I have to bring up the actual name. It's called. I think it's called I downloaded a PNG to a bird.

1:09:06Saved a PNG. Saved a PNG. I saved a PNG to a bird. Yeah. And it's incredible. It's where he converts a PNG to sound. Yeah. Gives that. Teaches a bird to sing that sound. Records that bird in another location. And then reconverts it into a distorted version of a PNG. What was was very fun you should go watch this video. It's very good This guy's like an like an audio engineer who is a musician He's like a musician and if you go back on his YouTube channel most of his content was like music content And in the last like couple of years he's just started doing like wild stuff and it's like really really good He's amazing.

1:09:44Yeah, he's very good. He's one of those people that was like It's funny that you did anything else before being a youtuber cuz you were like kind of made to do yeah Because he's got that perfect mix of like the video quality is not like insanely good. He's just like setting up wherever he can, whatever. But what he's actually doing is like so interesting and scientific and smart and cool. That's what matters. Yeah. It's very like Tom Scott core in a lot of ways. Mark, you would really like this channel a lot. He's able to. Yeah. Yeah. So what was funny about this is that he went to basically teach this cockatoo.

1:10:18I think it's called. Is it called a cockatoo? It's a bird. Yeah. they can repeat things do you have birds I got birds that's that was Ben Jordan actually we just sound very similar he plays the sound for the bird but he doesn't hear it actually repeat it and so it's repeating all these other sounds but he's recording the whole thing and he's like well guess it didn't repeat the sound that I wanted to record and he goes home and he's just like looking at the waveform and he's like wait and he sees a picture and see right yeah yeah I believe I can't quite remember from the video. The way that he made the sound was he drew the sound in some software and it created the sound.

1:10:54And then he played that. And he didn't hear the bird make the sound, but he was recording the whole interaction. And he goes home and he just throws the audio on the spectrogram or whatever. And he randomly sees the photo of the bird that he had drawn. And then there was a section where the bird just did the sound, but just slowly and quietly. Ben Jordan, we'd love to meet you sometime. We could talk audio. Yeah. This guy, I was like, this guy would be Ellis' best friend. I think me and Mr. Jordan would be quite good friends. Yeah. All right. Well, with that, I think that we should answer more questions, actually ask more questions.

1:11:32Did we do a second trivia question? Mm-hmm. I guess we should answer more questions. And it's not for points. Yeah. Guys, question number one, throwing it back to New Orleans. Go Pels, go Saints. I'm not actually a fan of either of those teams, but today I am. Uh-oh. The great city of New Orleans. Guys, instead of having a robot do your laundry so you could do other stuff, what classic New Orleans dish was traditionally made on wash day, Monday, so that you could wash your clothes while these cooked without you touching them? Can I guess two things? I am between two. This is like the worst phrased question I've ever given you.

1:12:08No, but I understand. I apologize for like, I know, but I was thinking the whole episode, like when I read it for the first time, like earlier in the episode, like what a mishmash word salad of nonsense. I just picked the one that I'm sure I spelled right. The other one. Then we have the same answer. I tried to spell the other one. You tried to spell the other one? Oh. I wrote that, then erased it, and then put the easier one. Just know if you guys get this wrong, no one is allowed to go to Mardi Gras. And all three of you got it wrong, but you might as well read the answers anyway. Dang it. Andrew and I.

1:12:38Yeah. Andrew and I put gumbo. That is wrong. And I said jambalaya. Yep, also wrong. Two delicious foods, though. Do you guys know the difference between... Are they popular in... New Orleans? Yes. But the correct answer was... Oh, we have no drumroll button. Why not? Close enough. It's red beans and rice. Oh, Claire's... Dad and Claire are obsessed with that. Because you have to cook the beans all day. Because they're hard otherwise. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, we're not going to do a quick update on the score because this is purely an exhibition match. We all got it wrong anyway. Showcase game. Okay, I've got it on the score.

1:13:14I've got it on the score. Marquez with zero. Andrew. David, also zero. No, Andy. Andrew carrying the one with zero. All right, next question. What was the IP rating of the Microsoft Zune? Not the HD, the OG. Not the Ananobi. Nick Van reference Damn, Andrew, you got it already? Oh yeah, it's fast I'm gonna win this preseason game Postseason Postseason No, postseason is usually more important Yeah Preseason is just for funsies Like this, alright, flip him and read What do you got? What did you guys say? I did IPX4 I did IPX3 I said IP 45 Nope It did not have an IP rating I knew it At the beginning I was like this is probably A freaking Is this a trick question I was like he's on to me Dang it Well we all got tricked anyway I hate to see it Adam loves to see that It's officially August You know what that means Pixels this month, iPhones not this month you're gonna get some information as the weeks go by.

1:14:38I'm gonna get the orange one. I decided. I think this is gonna be my... I think all of us are pre-ordering this thing. The iPhone. iPhone, I'm getting the... Oh, sorry. Pixel and iPhone. I was talking with the Pixel. The Pixel's not in orange. The Pixel's in ****. Gotcha. Still ordering it, though. In Lumoncello? I would like to take this opportunity to say this is not goodbye. this is see you soon oh no uh you'll see tell them because we have to trick them to watch well you'll you know it'll still be very exciting obviously but i will be out of town as i've mentioned for two episodes of the podcast not three yes i believe it's two three would have been if you didn't make it this week what are you doing marquez i will be competing in the world games event for uh ultimate frisbee for team usa so hopefully we have a good time it is in chengdu china so i cannot join the podcast from the other side of the world even if i did the time zones would be too crazy anyway um so uh yeah i'll be missing two weeks but the the crew is going to hold it down and we're still going to talk tech and when i get back we'll catch up on everything that i missed and we have lots of fun stuff planned for your absence so make sure trivia is going to be worth 50 points each when you're done don't have too much fun without me uh and also everyone send marquez good vibes that he wins world good vibes and good luck comes back with a big trophy we need another one that would be nice so you'll be here for the pixel 10 exactly barely yeah right on time nice so yeah thank you again for watching and for listening and for tuning in this week and subscribing of course because that's super important and if you did subscribe, that means we'll see you next week.

1:16:21And if you don't, Marques will lose.

1:16:27Oh my goodness. How do you do this? We've heard it's produced by Adam Lee and Alice Revin. The Vox Media Podcast Network is the people that produce us, and our music is the Vein Seal guy. Bingo! I'm down. Bend it. I think that's pretty good, right? It's pretty good.

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