The Pixel 10 Event: The Good, the Bad, the Jimmy Fallon

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0:51Available feature on equipped vehicles. Terms apply. Does not replace safe driving. See Ford.com slash Blue Cruise for more details. But yeah, okay, we should talk about this Google event. Yeah. Or is it a Google event? Okay, look at us. We are the Google event now. We are going to actually tell you about what these phones have on it because that event. I like that idea. Was pretty brutal in terms of the event. It was a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash Brothers Everyone is Here intro cutscene. And an infomercial. Yeah, the QVC. So let's just talk about the phones first and then we can talk about what the f*** happened.

1:36Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm David. We're back. We're all finally back in the same room. No, we're not. Adam's not here. But we do have Mariah. We do have Mariah. We're almost all back, and Mariah is here as well. Yeah, we've got a lot to talk about today. The Pixel event was, as of the day of recording, today. Yes. Terrible. It's hard to even call it a pixel event, but it happened. And we got to talk about that. We got to talk about some other stuff. But first, I just want to show you guys this.

2:11This is the thing that I was going to get for the two weeks that I was not here. Can you bite it? I could. It's kind of heavy, though. I don't want to break my teeth on it. It's a medal. It's a gold medal for Ultimate Frisbee in the World Games, which was held in Chengdu, China. This metal means a lot to me, obviously, but it's also panda-shaped. You can see the ears on it. Oh. I have a couple notes from China. One of them is I've never seen a city lean more into a single animal than I have, Chengdu, and the giant panda. Panda statues, panda artwork, panda souvenirs, panda medals, panda everything.

2:51It was very cool. We got to see a giant panda. They mostly sleep, so it wasn't super exciting, but we got to see them. And yeah, a lot more electric cars in China, I also noticed. And this is one of the things I knew I was going to see. I'll probably end up going back to China at some point to check this stuff out. But a lot of BYD cars. Oh, yeah. A lot of them. Bring your dollars. Build your dreams. Yeah, they all say build your dreams on the back. And you kind of have to know. We called lots of, there's no Uber. It was called Didi. Lots of Didis are BYD cars. So that was fun. I do want to say, Marquez, that we're actually very proud of you.

3:21Well, thank you. Yeah. It's hard, man. It was a lot of, we were in this athletes village the entire time I guess similar to an Olympic village essentially but they kind of turned this international hotel complex into like a place where all the athletes from all the sports from all the countries all stay Wow and there's this huge dining hall where you kind of just show up every day and there's everybody wearing all their you know warm-ups for whatever sport they play and you could meet people who play different sports or try to guess what sport they play and I learned a lot about how tug of war works and what corf ball is and fistball and other sports that i didn't know about before watching these world games is not the olympics world games is essentially the olympics for sports that are not yet in or not currently in the olympics olympics the ocho yeah it's like just like the olympics it's every four years it's in a new location last uh cycle four years ago was in birmingham alabama uh this time it was in chundu china uh and they have this yeah this village crazy two different well yeah i've heard birmingham is the chendu of the united states okay that's not crazy that's not a crazy take but yeah we on our uh on our quest for this medal we played five games in five days we had three pool play games we played japan then we played germany then we played china the home country it was very exciting thousands of people there very loud crowd super cool then we had semifinals against france and finals against canada two games that went to we call it universe point i'm saying i haven't played this in forever but next point win pretty much the germany one was crazy because you guys are on defense right which is much harder to to score and then the canada one you pulled it through you were on that point also universe point hold and universe point break yeah we kind of saw everything yeah the germany well i wasn't on the the d-line for the break but we got a break on universe against germany and we got a clean hold on universe against canada you were on the final point yeah pretty that's pretty sick There is a really cool sort of inset topography thing on the middle.

5:26Yeah. Do you know what this is supposed to be? I don't know if it's a specific topography. It looks like topography, but I don't know if that's like the country or the town we were in. Chengdu does have a lot of mountains, but I don't know if that's specifically the area we were in. It was very fun, and I will probably be back. Congratulations. Thank you. It will be in the Olympics eventually. And when it is, don't know who to call.

5:51events so hopefully they liked what they saw do you know why so in for the audio listeners inside of the metal opens up and inside the metal there's a mini oh wait it's got a magnet on it no and it does oh right and it's got like a little thing that pops out of it that you shake it tiny medallion you can open it you can like have a little thing to put oh yeah you can like put it on a key chain yeah put on my keys oh your labubu could have its own metal too if you wanted yeah i should say there's two animals that they lean into it was kind of the pairing of a giant panda and the monkey and so the metal is shaped like a panda with the ears you open it up and inside there's a tiny metal magnetized to it with the with the monkey do you know why they did that just because you can all right but yeah okay we should talk about this google event yeah or is it a google event okay look at us we are the google event now we are gonna actually tell you about what these phones have on it because that event i like that idea was pretty brutal in terms of the event it was There's a combination of a late night show, a morning talk show, and like the Super Smash Brothers Everyone Is Here intro cut scene.

6:58And an infomercial. Yeah, the QVC. So let's just talk about the phones first, and then we can talk about what the f*** happened for us with them. So there's a bunch of new phones. There's a Pixel 10, the Pixel 10 Pro, Pixel 10 Pro Max, and sorry, cheese. Yeah, Pixel 10 Pro XL and the Pixel 10 Pro Fold. yeah uh lots of really great names easy names um they're all the same prices as last year and frankly there's not that much that's actually different about them there's a couple interesting things like the foldable now is ip68 rated q2 q2 and all of these phones pixel snap i actually think that's my favorite feature that's probably the biggest there's magnets in all these phones and so now they can attend and they're strong too they're like actually firm and so they have these accessories like they're called pixel snap there's a charger there's a little uh dock you can throw it on but you can also throw this on magsafe accessories and it firmly yeah sits on them the clip you used in the impressions video is like nerve-wracking but it was he like flips it with his hand and it just stays on the like ring thing the whole time i asked google like why did you brand this pixel snap because now is if oppo adopts q2 is it going to be oppo clip they're And there's going to be and Google said that it's just the Chi Chi standard, but they optimize the magnets and everything, which you can you can tell because they have they have a ring adapter, like one of those ring things.

8:22And you put it on the back of the phone and no matter which way you turn it, it stays sturdy. Like it seems like they have done a lot of optimization to make sure that the magnets are very strong. And like the friction of the of the little felt in between them, like all of that. It seems very well thought out and it worked in my, you know, hour or two of hands on very well. Yeah. So I think that might be my favorite feature. Yeah. But yeah, you know, Tensor 5 is in there. It's a bit more powerful. We haven't benchmarked it yet, but I don't think it's going to magically be Snapdragon 8 Elite level.

8:50That's not the focus. It's still a Pixel, and all of its clever software features and AI and conversational photo editing and all of that, that's what makes the Pixel the Pixel. So they still look the same. They still have a lot of the same camera hardware. They have similar battery sizes, slightly bigger batteries last year than last year. but in general slightly brighter displays too but yeah they're pretty similar to last year yeah yeah i mean tensor at least it's tsmc this time so it's supposed to be quite a bit more efficient yeah they said the cpu is 34 faster there's a 60 faster tpu so that means it's got way more tensor cores it's going to be running a lot of the models natively on device and there's a new gemini nano model that runs 2.6 times faster and 2x as efficiently in some use cases they said yeah which i don't know they this year they're clearly leaning into a lot of the ai features that can happen natively on your phone that can sort of fetch information from other apps within the google ecosystem yeah yeah so if you were hoping for like a hundred watt charging or a brand new hundred megapixel camera or like the most incredible display of all time or some other crazy raw horsepower stuff it's not they did call it the best display ever on the camp on the live stream though which was interesting i was like according to who some choice words yeah it was according to who according to who they said for the second year in a row is what they said too oh right they did say that they did put the third camera on the base which i'm very i'm excited for yeah triple cameras lemongrass baller color everyone was wrong about that as per usual do you want to kind of really quickly just go over why then if you have triple cameras on the 10 why you might go to the pro and pro excel because it's a little harder to see by one if you watch the event because they didn't say anything about it or two if you're just looking hardware wise they all they look exactly the same yeah i mean this is going to be similar because i've talked about this in the past the pixel 10 is going to be the best deal 799 you get the most for your money there for 200 extra dollars to get the pixel 10 pro what do you get and i don't know how much better but you'll get slightly better triple cameras right it's still 5x optical zoom but they'll let you super resume into 100x on the pro it was pretty impressive in some of the cases Yeah, we've seen some decent shots.

11:03I've also seen some pretty bad-looking shots, but I think there are some cases where you could be impressed by the pro-res zoom. The 100X does AI upscaling, to be clear. Yes. And it sometimes makes mistakes. On anything beyond 30X, it does super-res zoom, or pro-res zoom. Pro-res zoom on the pros. Yeah. Yeah. It is a slightly higher resolution display. It is a slightly brighter display at its peak brightness. 3 ,300 nits versus 3 ,000, which logarithmically is the same. Yeah, you won't notice that. Yeah. And it is, in fact, a slightly smaller, 100 milliamp hour smaller battery, probably to fit those larger cameras.

11:36So it's a 4 ,870 milliamp hour versus 4 ,970 milliamp hour on the base. Aside from that, it's more RAM, 16 gigs of RAM versus 12, and you can get more max storage. It starts at 256 instead of 128. And, yeah, they all have Qi II, blah, blah, blah. That's basically what you get for your extra 20 dollars. The XL does get 2.2, which is the 25W. Yes. Well, the Pros are both 2.2. Sorry, the XL. Just the XL? The XL gets 2.2. Really? Just the XL. And the Pros also have better selfie cameras, 48 megapixel selfie cameras. So, yeah, like you said, the XL is$1199 and gets even faster charging and obviously the larger battery and larger screen.

12:21And that's kind of it. So I think most people will get the most value for their money out of the regular Pixel 10, which is great then you have the fold 1799 that's got your ip68 that's got your pixel snap g2 that's got tensor and 16 gigs of ram and more storage and slightly thinner bezels so basically the the hinge being thinner on the left means it's like a more centered normal looking closed screen and then when it opens it's still there's still a crease but it looks fine open eight inch screen a hole punch cut out uh yeah normal looking phone for that i think it's the same cameras as last year maybe it's a new primary camera and then the other two are the same yeah it's a new 48 megapixel yeah primary camera um there are some small things that are different between the regular one and the pros uh the pros are the only ones that get the 8k 30 fps with video boost and the night side video where you don't get that on the regular one which is sort of an interesting um thing to leave out.

13:22Yeah. There's a pro controls camera mode on the pros, whereas you don't get the pro controls mode on the regular one. If you're really hardcore about that kind of stuff, you get a better selfie camera on the pros. So you get the 42 megapixel dual PD selfie camera, whereas the regular one has 10.5 megapixels. There is zoned UFS storage on the higher storage models of the pros, which I had to look up what this was. Basically they segment out the storage for storing different types of data so that it is like faster to retrieve because when you're trying to access memory on like a one terabyte hard drive, it can take forever to like go through the hard drive and index everything and then bring it out to you.

14:00So they split it up into like different NAND segments, I guess. This is only on the 5, 12, and one terabyte models. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, technically 45 watt charging on the XL, but I don't know whether or not that's actually gonna charge faster. famously on the galaxy s20 like ultra i think it was it technically charged at 45 watts but in practice it was like a one minute faster charge yeah the the charging number that you see is often basically the peak number that i can achieve which you only achieve that briefly at the very beginning of the charging curve at a few percent battery and then it immediately drops down as it manages thermals and and fills up the battery or whatever so you might only see 45 watts for two seconds right so we don't know we'll test that as well the review is in the works as you can probably imagine yeah and then ltpo basically ldpo right versus so you get 60 to 120 on the regular one one to 120 on the pro so there you go you don't have to watch the event to learn all that about the new phones uh the event though was uh how do i even explain this it was hosted by Jimmy Fallon.

15:06It was on the Google channel. It had about 20 celebrity guests. Probably more. In various capacities. Like Lando Norris was one. Giannis Antetokounmpo was one. Some photographer, Steph Curry. The list goes on. Jeremy Lin. Jeremy Lin briefly. He was at the beginning. Yeah. The Jonas Brothers. If you asked Google why they did it like this, I think their explanation would be we wanted to reach the normie people. Like the tech people already know about these phones. They watched the hands-on impressions video an hour before the event happened. But for the normal people who will buy a phone based on what Jimmy Fallon says, this was for them.

15:51And to that I would say I don't think that worked. I don't think that's going to work. To name a person you know that's not in our scene, that's like, are you ready to watch the Google event today? Who do you know that's a non-techie person that's watching a tech event? There's a possibility that on Jimmy Fallon's regular late night show, he plays a clip from the Google event that he's hosting. Or some short form content they pull out of it and they're like, oh, that's Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon. Yeah. Whatever. Lots of Jimmy's. The S2 Jimmy's. Yeah. I do think it's smart of them to bring in a bunch of new audiences like this though i would love to see the number on what new audience it is and how much of the audience is just us who watch it all the time and are like did you guys say anything about the products but like think about if they got all of these influencers and sports players and photographers and people to like post on their own social media accounts then at least they're sort of like the people don't need to watch the event right as long as they can clip things and like put it in the contract for all of the individual influencers to post about it i still don't know if that is converting like they're hoping to how much money do you think they spent on just celebrity cameos yeah that that was an expensive event yeah for sure we were joking that they could have spent all that money on 15 minutes of taylor swift and it probably would have had better conversion people would watch if she announced her new album on the pixel event instead of her boyfriend's podcast wait the market share would be through the roof there was a really funny um onion meme that was like uh what's his name her book travis kelsey receipts invoice for taylor swift's podcast up here this was a phone announcement event masquerading as an infomercial masquerading as a organic celebrities hanging out and being cool and showing you the phone stuff type of thing it was it was very it was unique i'll give them that it was uh ambitious yeah because it was live yeah um and they did to their credit pull off some pretty impressive live tech demo.

17:52The phone call thing with the Spanish-speaking influencer who was talking on the phone. Having seen that demo in person fail many times, I was watching that intently like, this could go horribly. Like, this could go really wrong. And it actually went pretty well. While I was checking the mail, did they do the live translation? Are you serious? Like, right when I left the room? It went pretty well. There was one time where she said something and then the other end it came out, I am a crazy person or something like that. It did say something weird, yeah. I don't think that's what she meant to say.

18:21But every other time, it was actually pretty accurate. It hit a high note at the end. It landed, and they said, like, an announcement. It'll go on sale in Mexico. Oh, wow, congrats. And it's, like, in the AI voice, it sounded kind of like Jimmy. So, yeah. It is impressive that they're able to generate an AI voice of you within two seconds of your voice. Yeah, with the intonations and the timing and, like, speeding up and slowing down. That is very impressive tech demo. It's not exactly, you know, what your voice would sound like, but it's close enough. I feel like that could also be based on the many, many hours of Google Assistant audio you are providing to your phone.

18:54Or I guess they claim the phone calls is not recorded, but that doesn't mean they don't have your voice. They said it takes only two seconds of your voice to clone it, is what they say. That is an easy thing for Google to say when they have thousands of hours of your voice. Well, it works on both ends, so the person you're calling doesn't have to have a picture. That is very true, yeah. So it's just doing it live. Actually, to be fair, most people you are calling don't have a Pixel. Yeah, right. If I had to give my kudos to anything in this event, I thought the set was fantastic. The set was really well made.

19:30The thing about it, though, is seeing some of our tech journalist friends posting from there, the way they had to watch the event was like the set was pushed further and all the cameras were in front of where Jimmy and the people. Yeah. So they didn't even get to feel like the event was to them. It felt like it was to the cameras. It just felt like this was not for journalists at all. I've watched every time I watch an event like this, I kind of in my head try to picture what I think the brief was and like how I think it's being produced. And I could see a lot of reading off teleprompters and like camera to the side, like look at your prompts over here, then read the next prompt over here.

20:09And then a little bit of riffing in between, like Jimmy Fallon would go off script once in a while. Oh, are you allowed to say Apple? like a random line here or there where it's it's just kind of like tensor yeah i could feel some of that and i honestly think google probably thinks it went pretty well oh definitely you know just based on the fact that nothing derailed the tech demos worked based on how complex getting that many famous people in one room and trying to get them to all say the right lines and nothing disasteredly happening yeah nothing like jiffable with like a missed handshake or anything crazy Or like when the Gemini demo failed twice on the Pixel and only worked on the Galaxy S25.

20:50Yeah, nothing like that happens. So maybe they're happy about it. They're probably stoked. There are a couple of really quick Fold updates that I want to mention. Because this year, the Fold is almost exactly the same as last year. And so a lot of people are going to wonder if they should ever upgrade to this thing. And we talked about IP68, which is a big deal. but they also um added well they added pixel snap to that which is interesting and there's all these pixel snap accessories like we talked about and there's a stand and they specifically both in the video and the keynote and also when they came and visited and showed us them demoed the pixel fold being open and being magnetized to the stand to try to like showcase how strong the magnets were it did slouch very slightly to the left i do remember seeing okay but that's at least quite interesting in its own right you know and how like weighted the stand is because yeah what david's explaining is when it's open it's only magnetized to the right side so now it is like hanging precariously off the side but the stand is still standing which obviously takes a lot of precise you don't want to stand to be yeah really heavy but it still has to be able to hold it like that it was pretty impressive I didn't see it slouching but I wouldn't be surprised they also updated the made you look thing for kids where they have new animations so the kids can like you know laugh at the I want to actually try that because yeah you should try it it seems like a great idea but the amount of times I've had to like try and get Lane or my niece of like yelling and screaming the like words that they love and clapping like I can't imagine a silly little fish on the screen is going to be better than the 20 parents It's like basically begging the kid to just look at it.

22:33I would love to try it because seeing as it's Google and they had it last year on their phone, they had an opportunity to kill this feature or double down on it and they doubled down on it. They doubled down. They added more faces. I think it is a perfect thing to play at like a T-Mobile store and a parent season is like, oh, my kid will finally look at the camera every time. Like that is a great, that's going to work perfectly. Let's buy it and then see it. I don't know. I want to try it. If I get a full doll. Yeah. And then there are a couple more features that are actually taking advantage of the opening screen, which is nice.

23:06There's the new camera app, which when you take a photo, it shows the photo you just took on the left. And it has this dynamic stacking feature where when you take more photos, it kind of like moves the photo in and it stacks them on top of each other. So you can see the whole photo roll, which is nice. Instant shot, I think is what they're calling. Instant shot. And then they now say that you can drag and drop images and links from like one app to another by holding and dropping. it didn't work in our demo but they were confused why it didn't work so hopefully that book is fixed by the time it launches that's actually very very helpful yeah i also really liked that just like um how if you have dual apps open and you can slide the middle slider yeah 80 of the screen is yeah yeah and you can swap between them really quick and you can flip them a lot of like really quick intuitive uh multifunctional like windows the reason i've been waiting for the trifold for so along is because I've never really seen the use of the hot dog style foldable you know whereas the I see a ton of Galaxy Z flips on the subway because I think that that is a lot more it's easier for people to like see and understand and also it's a square aspect ratio when you do that so yeah you know um yeah yeah the software features are really what make the for sure every pixel totally and there's some interesting stuff in there that might be tops of people's lists again so we will get to that but of course before we get there trivia

24:30it's been so long since i've heard that music all right guys another event which means another edition of were you paying attention i wish what we'll just have to pretend it was there is it head to head i know it's it's supposed to be were you paying attention but that my My button broke and we're not going to fix it right now. One of us could do it. Yeah, you want to give it a shot? Were you paying attention? Good enough. All right, guys. Sorry, I got distracted. But actually, no, I need to complain while we're talking about Google stuff. Because Google AI overview ruined my life yesterday. Whoa.

25:11And the day before. That's awesome. Because I had a flight from hell where I was... Did you arrive in heaven eventually? Hell, Michigan. Yeah, how'd you know? where long story short, I had a layover through Chicago, O-R-D, O 'Hare. And there was weather and O 'Hare was shut down. And I was trying to figure out how long O 'Hare was going to be shut down for. So to know if I needed to rebook my flight like that moment. And so naturally, I go to google.com and I Google, is O 'Hare shut down? Or is there a ground stoppage at O 'Hare? Or all the necessary things. And of course, when you Google that, the first thing that comes up is a Google AI overview that will always say, yes, it's shut down.

25:51And then you click the link and it's from some article from 2017. Like it's completely irrelevant and stupid information and you can't disable that. Anyway, that's my rant. Let's get back to... Were you? Oh. Close enough. All right. Nice. After using the A word, what did Google VP Adrian Lofton refer to iPhone users as? Oh, yeah, I got this. I think I remember that. Were you paying attention? Man. Yeah, I know. One of the rare off-script moments. Apple? Can we say that? Surprisingly, when they showed a low-light camera sample, they did show it was directly from the iPhone 16 Pro. I was surprised about that.

26:37Oh, really? Yeah, because usually they just say, competitor's leading device. There was someone recording the Jonas Brothers at that party at the end with an iPhone in the background. epic yeah well we'll think about that and the answers will be at the end like usual so we'll be right back support for this show comes from shopify when you're starting a new business there's so much to do sometimes it can feel like you're playing in a super bowl but you're the only one on your team, Shopify says they can help. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world, offering tools to help your one-man band play like a champion.

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29:46Some of them are just going to be available for everyone, but they're getting announced with this phone, so that's great too. The one that's Pixel 10 only that seems interesting that I think might not forever be Pixel 10 only is called Magic Q. it's very Google. Google knows everything about you already, right? It knows your calendar events. It knows all the emails that you get. It knows your flight reservations. It knows your hotel reservations. It knows your lunch reservations at the restaurant because you get a confirmation email for everything. So if you get a text message with someone asking about one of those reservations, you'll get a little magic cue card thing that pops up at the bottom that is just a prompt to answer the question for you without you having to dig back in and find the email kind of like the auto reply is there and you can press it and it can yeah it's an auto reply that's pulling from some other service in your google account somewhere it seems to work pretty well there's a couple instances where it makes perfect sense like someone asking about a flight info hey when does that flight land oh okay well i know the answer already because i know the last email you got about that flight says it would land at this time boom here's your answer Something that was surprising to me about it is that in like text messages, if someone asks, where are we eating or what's your flight info?

31:04It grabs it and it just puts it in like a regular string. So it's just like, we're going to Cracker Barrel. It just says Cracker Barrel. Yeah. But I feel like. It doesn't dress it up. I'm surprised that they don't do that plus a Google Maps link or something. Yeah. Actually, that would make sense. You might usually just say the name of the place. But usually when I send someone a location, I send them a Google Maps. If I'm asking you, like, where is the reservation we're going to tonight? I would almost definitely want to know where it is. Especially if you're from, like, out of town. If I don't even remember.

31:33Yeah. Yeah. The feature demo we tried just was, like, typing the name of the restaurant. Really? That's all it did? Yes. Oh. That's two points of failure. Like, it could already, you know, grab the wrong email. Like I said, if it's grabbing, if I Google, is Chicago airport shut down and it's pulling things from six years ago? Yes. You know, who's to say it's not going to pull a reservation from six years ago? And then who's to say, well, pull the wrong Google Maps link too. And then all of a sudden, your plans are ruined. Theoretically, though, you've seen, you know the restaurant you're going to or like, or like you sort of know your flight number, kind of.

32:10But you just don't remember the specifics, right? So you can like verify whether or not it's right. I think like in terms of a restaurant, it would most likely be like, well, if you're asking for tonight, you're in New York, it's probably going to be the one in New York or the one that's today. you know like i'm asking for today i asked gemini yesterday about a today thing ai overview is a lot weirder because it's using the whole inner internet where this is all using your personal in your calendar email it's very it's so much more niche of what it is i'd be more confused of what if i have two reservations what if the amount of times you have probably three different flights booked at some point and as long as it's not like if you're just like what flight or when's your flight this week you might have four different answers yeah right those things get confusing yeah i wonder ordering will it give you options because like you said you kind of know what it is or what that person might be there was a screenshot in the event of two different options oh really one of them had two options and you can pick one so i'm gonna have to test this a little bit i mean we tested the couple setup versions they had for us and obviously they worked because they were set up yeah but uh it seems like one of those things that google can pull off because they know a lot about you and they can just surface that information and it's convenient uh it's the type of thing that apple would like to do with siri but they haven't been able to figure out how to do it yet yeah so well and also apple's so gung-ho about privacy and it's been the whole thing that they're they kind of set themselves up for failure here because google's always just been like we use your data to create magical experiences whereas apple's like we don't touch that at all we don't look at it we don't know what it is it's just a random string of numbers to us And it's also like Apple, it's not an Apple email that you're getting.

33:52It's a Google email that you're pulling into your mail app for Apple, but Apple doesn't see that information. Well, unless you're on iCloud or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, it's like, it's not like quite one-to-one with like what Google can offer because Google has a calendar that you're putting events into. Google has Gmail. Google has all these other things. Yeah. This is definitely Google at its best, like showcasing that. Open AI wishes it could be this. Apple wishes it could be this. anthropic wishes it could be this but google has always been the best positioned to be able to be this agentic as rick osterlo will say and try to explain to jimmy fallon i will say the the call like calling an airline and it automatically populating like all your airline the information in the phone app is so nice in the phone so you're not like on speakerphone digging in your email typing united and google's gmail search sucks so bad yeah it's one of those extremely specific things that I think I'm going to love that feature.

34:45I often, and this is so specific because I carry two phones, like I'll go in and I'll call with one phone and I'll pull up my calendar on the other phone and I'm like, man, this would suck if I had to do both these things on one phone. If I only have one phone. But this is like perfectly designed where it's like, okay, I can pull up the exact information I need and it's going to show it to me when I need to see it. Yeah. Great. It's great because every time I have to pull up the information to talk to the agent about it i have to either put it on speakerphone or risk not hearing them speak to me back so yeah it would be very nice to have i'm wondering if they if it does any of this magic q stuff in any other apps because the main two apps that they showed were the messages and the phone app yeah but i would love to see this in gmail and other apps like that yeah it'd be cool yeah try it out yeah i think that's probably their biggest one so that's magic q coming to pixel 10s at first and maybe some other stuff later yeah the other thing that i thought was really interesting was uh conversational editing so you can yes use a text box to edit a photo instead of going into the actual tools and hitting edit and going all right saturation oh let me crop oh let me turn brightness up let me do all these other things or even some of the magic editor stuff like erase a person in the background you now have this text box that you can type into or talk to and you can go hey make this photo look better and brighten it up and delete that plastic bag in his hand and it will semantically parse what you said understand what you said and then take action on the photo using the tools built in and it will do what you said i tried a bunch of stuff it did what i asked yeah i was very impressed with it it was very good um you can get kind of carried away and just be like add a hot air balloon in the photo it'll just do it yeah i think that the only thing it doesn't want to do is adjust faces so kind of the same as magic editor uh but the fact that it understands what i'm saying and does it is really convenient and good and it can do a lot of local editing too like the demo we had uh she had she said turn my dress red and it just did it and it was yeah very very local to her dress yeah which was like very surprising and this is like great for not people like us but for normal people who don't know how to use magic eraser or don't know how to use all the different who don't even know that there's an edit button really right there but they can click that and just the like chat box comes up and they can just say like could you zoom in on this a little bit and like get that dog out of the background like anyone can do that and it seems pretty good one of the people showing us our demo said pretty much every photo they take that they care about at all they just say make this look better to every photo just see what happens just yeah it tends to just like kind of brighten things up and like crop and put your subject in the middle and just generally make it look like a better photo yeah pretty good yeah on top of that if you want to do that before you have to run it through an ai model they now have the camera coach feature yeah um and this is basically gemini it's effectively like gemini live basically talking to you about what's going through your viewfinder yeah so if you're taking a photo of a friend or something like that and you're off center if you're to the right or if you haven't straightened the horizon line things like that it will talk to you in real time and be like turn a little bit to your left get a little closer to the person do this and um kind of teaches you how to take i guess a better photo yeah it was cool to walk through it once i hate this one so much i don't think i would ever use it again no you wouldn't because you know what you're doing but even if i didn't know what i was doing like i just feel like i'm taking a picture the way i want to take the picture and if i wanted a coach to help me take a professional picture by that point i just have someone else take it for me yeah i think the people who don't care about how well framed a picture is don't care about getting coached to frame it well and just like the memory of the photo rather than the this is the this is the feature for boomers for sure it is and but like it's slow it takes a while to do it and like i'm just imagining you're at let's say like disney and you're now all these parents their kids are meeting the characters and each parent is now doing camera coach this line is now a 10 hour wait because each person's taking 10 minutes to like slowly listen to it and adjust and tell the kids to smile and like turn it's i don't know this this feels like a flop the pitch in the event was Alex Cooper saying like you no longer have to teach your like boyfriend or spouse or whatever how to take the perfect picture of you now the camera coach will teach them maybe that's cool I don't yeah something you have to actively turn on or is it yeah by default yeah you have there's a little button in the corner because like I feel like most people wouldn't go out of their way to actively turn it on yeah but the pixel now already it'll tell me you need to raise the phone higher and I didn't ask it to tell me that.