The WWDC 25 Episode!

43:31Boys. Boys. You know what time it is. we had an event which means were you paying attention that's right another instance of were you paying attention question number one craig federighi opened up his actually one of his segments he was there's a lot of craig this stuff i think he's gonna be the next ceo you really think so i think so he's like their most visual person tim cook was barely in dub dub at all yeah you notice that well he always does a thing where he bookends things yeah but he's usually opens it and gives uh he he gives the the overarching value and then he closes it but he usually has little segments in between me where he's like we love what you're gonna do with ipad os so next here's craig i feel like it's more of the software guy and this is dub dub yeah yeah so it's kind of his i still think he's gonna be next to you anywho i think watch the next iphone event is just turn us over and over again or mac stuff i mean i like turn us he's nice but anyway this is interesting this is interesting but

44:36during his mac os segment craig federighi made his normal joke he was like the apple crack product marketing team went so on some retreat blah blah blah this year because it was tahoe they it was a ski trip i don't know if you remember that and to test whether or not you were paying attention, I want to know what word did Craig use to describe the tracks left in the snow by the product marketing team? Support for this show comes from Shopify. When you're starting a new business, there's so much to do. Sometimes it can feel like you're playing in a Super Bowl, but you're the only one on your team.

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48:44all right welcome back we've got way more dub dub to talk about all the 26s all the software stuff david you had one more thing about one more thing about that so um i didn't know where to sleep at dub dub so i called up christian selig and uh the ex-developer of apollo and i crashed his airbnb with a bunch of other developers and it was fun and one of those developers told me that they actually introduced an alarm kit API. This is so far the most David string of sentences I've ever heard. Keep going. That's federated. I'm kidding. But previously, the only alarm you could use on your iPhone was the freaking clock app.

49:30Right. I didn't even know that. So now any app can set an alarm. Yeah. I saw developers making jokes about this. Like, will they now let me put an alarm in my, like, notes app? I mean, that's dope. Is that not dope? No, I agree. It's sick. I can't wait to see all the cool alarms. Do you remember the rock alarm from back in the day? The rock alarm? Oh, didn't it just woke you up whenever the rock woke up? Whenever the rock woke up. At, like, four in the morning. I want that back. That's what I want. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. It's time to bring that up back. So I think that's pretty cool. Yeah, that was pretty neat.

50:03and then also they added the apple intelligence like a like app actions api thing so now you can like use about app intense you can now like use a lot of apple intelligence features within your app as you're developing it and it all happens on the iphone which is also very cool but apple intelligence isn't good yet i know but you can do like visual intelligence and stuff within your app now yeah so i think or summaries or whatever yeah summaries you can do all that stuff in your app and it's not just in apple's app apps so that's very good and i am excited to see what that does so now we're done all right and it's federated we have a bunch of other os's we could talk about we could talk about mac os we could talk about ipad os what's the difference not wrong uh or watch us or tv os or vision os can i make a suggestion okay yeah can we do like a rapid fire watch os tv os good call to get them out the way because yeah because we're gonna forget we're gonna forget no one cares all right let me do it now let me blast through the small ones okay tv os got a slight new visual like coat of paint right barely new glassy etc that's kind of all that it did and there's also some content it stripped the paint it was already very glossy yeah yeah great watch os also new glossier glassier uh touch points there's also new smart Siri, what is it called?

51:26Shortcut Smart Siri widgets? What is it? Smart stacks? Smart stacks. Better smart stacks. Better smart stacks that are more live. Great. You can also, I really like the swipe to dismiss. That little wrist swipe to dismiss. I flick thing. By the way, I don't like that because this morning, yeah, this morning I got an email. Oh, you're running the beta. Yeah, I'm running the beta. I got an email and the email popped up here and I was like, oh, and I went like this and because I flicked too fast, it dismissed it. It should definitely only be away from you. that it does it. When I did it towards me.

51:56quick away back is like the dismiss. Oh, I just got an email. Yeah, it's like, oh. Yeah. So it's like you're flipping it off your watch. It's literally supposed to, I think, feel like you're just, just like, throwing it off your watch. Maybe it just messed up or maybe it's just a beta. I thought it was cool. I don't know. The beta hopefully gets less buggy. And then also this workout buddy. Workout buddy. Which is like a Spotify DJ for workouts. Yeah. It's almost exactly what you're thinking. It's just a new voice that like looks at your workout data and every once in a while goes, great work.

52:25You're a mile in. Your part rate is 162. It's way too happy. It's like, wow, you're such a killer runner. You ran 12.4 miles last week. Way to go. I wanted to be like, you're such a piece of garbage. You haven't ran in three weeks. What the heck are you doing with this? On your couch again? They were pumped about that. It was trained on the voices of Apple fitness trainers. So it's like literally you have your own trainer with you and you're like on your run with you. Cool. Great. It'd be great if it's like, hey, dumbass, you forgot to stop this workout. I know you're sitting on the couch right now.

52:58Yeah. And then Vision OS. Vision OS got one really, really, really, really, really cool thing that I don't think is that useful, but it's still pretty cool. Widgets. Pin them anywhere. They have like a depth effect. Yeah, the depth is cool. Did you see, have you tried Vision OS 26? I have not tried it yet. If you pin a panorama photo to a wall in a frame. Just for me. You walk past that thing and it looks like a window. I promise you walk past it and you can like look around the panorama through the window, which isn't that revolutionary. You could already look around a panorama, but just the depth effect and being pinned to the wall, it was something sick.

53:33You can also do clocks and stuff. I do sell panoramic wallpaper packs on my website, davidmell.com, if you want to go put it on your Vision Pro, which nobody's going to do. The widget's also like, the depth wasn't just out. It was like in. It was like protruding in, which looked really, really good. Okay. and there's persistent app pinning now. Thank God. So now, oh my goodness, this is what everyone's been asking for. Now you can just put on the headset and all of your stuff is pinned where it's supposed to be instead of having to reset it up every single time. Yeah. And that's a huge, huge, huge update.

54:07There was something that I caught reading about this that I didn't hear there and I'm wondering if either of you heard about in the briefings, but there's now Premiere Pro support in Vision Pro? There's gonna be like a Premiere Flash, like a small... like an app inside of it. It said mostly for like 360 video and stuff. That's what I read but I just there's no final cut in it, right? You know what I want? You know what I want? Not built in. Yeah. In this print. I want to be able to pick a clip up out of the timeline and I want to I want to snap it in half like a Toblerone. I like I want to there's like a cut right there I want to go just like a you know what I mean?

54:42Like a Toblerone. I would edit like that. Do it. And then you put it you put it right back. I would multicam with that. I would be doing my J cuts said like grab three clips and like shove them under three other clips yeah they also added they added more dystopian features um which technically we wanted where now if you're sitting on a couch with your significant other you can both watch the same movie in your individual vision prose and then when you lean over to give each other a little kiss uh you're both wearing vision pros crack can you do that i don't think you could kiss i think if two people are wearing vision pros they could not i don't think so you would just be glass i try we

55:22members only content i'm not beating the allegations um shared content is important though on vision pro this is what i talked about when it first came out like the top five things missing from vision pro my number one is shared experiences two different people looking at the same 3d object manipulating it showing each other you know scaling rotating in the same room at the same time that is now going to be supported which is great yeah um i also think that it's hilarious that there's a world where two people are wearing three thousand five hundred dollar headsets and they don't have a tv that they can share i know like that's a weird room i don't know what that room is but okay there's a couch and a blank wall and you just that's your room it's specifically for like when you move into a new apartment but you haven't bought anything yet but you got your headset so you're ready to go you're sitting in this empty white movie night the carpet what do you mean movie night i got the headset all right uh one thing about tv os that we didn't mention uh is that you can now do karaoke on tv os and you can use your iphone as a microphone for the karaoke finally yeah wow cool yeah wow uh yeah so that's all that's all coming and i think now we get to the two big ones which is mac os and ipad os and to andrew's point less of a difference than ever before in probably well between the two oh yeah yeah what is a computer okay let's start with mac os because i think we can also kind of drill through that one a little quickly yeah liquid glass everywhere uh clear dock clear widgets you can do clear all the things i don't love the look on the mac i gotta be honest i've seen it now i the control center are you running that too oh i'm running everything hit the control center right now it doesn't look like bubble boy from spongebob oh it is bubble boy that looks so bad dude that looks horrible it's opinionated it looks high rain meter is bad i need a background so i can read things that's pretty rough it's bad it's also funny because i love it like my menu bar up top is more transparent than your menu bar yeah so the menu bar is supposed to be transparent oh yeah when you have no apps open than your menu bar when you have this is liquid when you're just like showing your home screen so if you just like expose the home screen just like like click the bottom left corner to like show your hide all windows should be clear right it's not it's not it is supposed to be that's a beta it's a beta it's a beta yeah um you're like me what else is in mac os i mean some other slight improvements spotlight is kind of the big thing for me so all right let's start about spotlight yeah adam tap in okay so i'm ready baby you're a fellow raycast user right me yeah so um i mentioned this in the impressions video my like number one productivity app I install fresh on every new Mac is called Raycast.

58:01And it literally replaces the command space keyboard shortcut for spotlight and is a like spotlight on steroids. I can open apps, obviously, or I can give it commands. I can also tab over and find files. I can talk with AI, literally like dozens of different AI models. I can select on the fly which one I want to talk to. I can also do, there's a, I think my favorite part is actually just the clipboard history. I just type in clipboard and I see my entire clipboard history of all the things I've copied and want to paste again. So it is incredibly, incredibly useful. It syncs across devices. I don't really go anywhere without it, obviously.

58:44It's very useful. So Apple gets on stage and they start showing this new spotlight for Mac, which actually when you hover over it has this nifty little animation that's starts to break apart like okay you can still search for apps but you can also now do commands keyboard shortcuts view your clipboard history all these new things that you couldn't do in spotlight before yeah and the first obvious thought that i had was oh this is what it looks like when an app gets sherlocked like this is the obvious uh you know if i'm a developer at raycast i'm over here thinking like That's tough. They just took a bunch of our users slash features.

59:21And that's actually kind of what I said in the video, but the more I've thought about it. and I read the statement from I think it was a founder, a CEO the more I thought about it, the more I think it actually is promising that Raycast will continue to exist and may even benefit from this because the angle is people weren't thinking about like Spotlight being a power user type thing or doing shortcuts in that way yet and so it was only really us nerds, power users, productivity people who are doing that now that this is built in and people might start to mess with this a little bit, they will quickly run up against Apple's limits of customization.

1:00:02And then we'll find Raycast because Raycast will continue to do more than Spotlight will. Like when I want to open command space and tab and I'm talking to Gemini now in two clicks, I don't have to touch my trackpad. There's Gemini on the computer? Yeah, well in Raycast. Like I don't even have to leave, go to a browser. I can just chat with Gemini. And so that type of thing is always going to be the next level above what like Apple's never are going to let me do that in Spotlight. But when you open the funnel a little bit and you get regular users thinking a little bit more about, like, oh, I'll use Spotlight a little more.

1:00:32I'll start to, like, use it to find files. That's the type of thing that shows people that Raycast exists faster. And Raycast can let you do things with third-party apps, right? Right. There's plugins, lots of plugins. Google Translate plugin is very useful. I'm sure there will be a Translate Siri shortcut plugin or something that does a similar thing. The thing that was really useful for Apple's version is the app intense again. You can like jump in and send a message to a recipient and you type it all out and hit enter and it sends a message without ever opening the messages app. You can also email files straight from the clipboard.

1:01:06Pretty intense. From the Spotlight. Yeah, straight from Spotlight. So that's like, that is like power user, like there's an entire YouTube genre of how to maximize Raycast and do these types of things. Right. And this is stepping right into that territory. And if this was like a third party app, you'd immediately be like, oh, this is pretty clever, nice UI, but obviously very limited. And yeah, I think this is - So our developer is not going to be able to tap into the spotlight thing. You can only use it with Apple apps. I have a feeling that this will be much more restricted and there won't be third-party plugins like Google Translate or Gemini Chat or Spotify PlayPause type stuff.

1:01:45Oh man, that'd be amazing if you could just be like, play on Spotify this song. That exact thought you're having is what's going to drive people to Raycast. that's what I'm thinking yeah I think the spotlight limitations are gonna be that there's no you have to use shortcuts for things like that like if I want to do anything like that like go and open Spotify and then play this song you can probably hack your way around that with like serious shortcuts yeah but something like Raycast will just do it because it already has it built in and then you can also just like create your own extensions on Raycast if you want like I spent this whole weekend which is hilarious because i like i posted like saturday or something with someone like okay i've been using raycast now like a normie for the last like three or four weeks like just basically as a basic search bar for like a spotlight replacement yeah and i was like okay send me your like tips and tricks for raycast and i dove deep down that rabbit hole this weekend i set it up all perfectly and then monday happened yeah and on stage they're like oh we just updated spotlight and i was like the leonardo dicaprio meme like wait i've seen this before but the thing that makes raycast way more powerful which is like to marquez's point the people that care are gonna just always have to go to raycast because you can just use regular code to build your own thing if you want right like if you're trying to build your own extension in raycast i'm pretty sure it's just like react and like that's it which a lot of developers know so like yeah you can like try to figure it out with shortcuts if you're a developer and you want to do that regular people just ignore shortcuts altogether so they're not going to do that yeah but the people that care about this stuff kind of tend to have these skills anyway so then they'll be like leaning towards raycast speaking of shortcuts too uh they added a bunch of like apple intelligence features to shortcuts now they showed me a demo where you get a bunch of photos that you have in a folder and you're like oh i need to organize these yeah so they had created a shortcut that like organizes the photos based on what's in them This one seemed insane to me.

1:03:45Yeah. But it did what it's supposed to. Well, they were saying that this would be perfect for video editors because you could automatically index things. Yeah. But, you know, it has to work. You should make a shortcut so every time Final Cut crashes, it reopens it up again and gets to the spot you're at. That's actually, Final Cut's always open. Yeah. And the shortcut is just you slamming your keyboard with your fist. And just go. Yeah. Oh, I just almost sent an email. See? SM. David has the new spotlight open. I do. It looks way nicer. It does. It looks really good. It's clean. The animation is cool.

1:04:21There's an animation between the App Store files. What's the other? Well, it's not the App Store. It's apps. Apps. Apps, files, actions, and clipboard manager. And it has a very easy command 1, 2, 3, 4 to select any of those. That looks really nice. I think that new spotlight looks good. Animation's nice. It's glassy. Of course. Yeah. It's glassy. Yeah. So anyway, that's my two cents on this Spotlight situation. I think it's a cool feature. And it will hopefully get a lot of people thinking about how to use it better. Yeah. But then. Clipboard history. Are we just all going back to writing in a terminal?

1:04:58I feel like this is just teaching us all to type against the cool kids. Getting all excited. Yeah. That moment where, sorry, that moment where maybe it was Craig or whoever was giving a demo, talked about you can do all of this and send this message and hit enter without ever touching the trackpad. I was like, that's the exact pitch of so many apps of my email app is you can do all this and never touch your keyboard or never touch your trackpad or your mouse. That is straight from that world. Turns out keyboard shortcuts were the solution all along. Also, there are now live activities on the Mac.

1:05:32True. And it has continuity. So you can basically have it where you can open a virtual version of your phone and then have your phone on there. And so now, like there will be live activities on your iPhone, say when your Uber Eats delivery is coming or whatever, it'll show up on your Mac, and then when you click it, it opens a virtual session of your iPhone, and you can manipulate the app on your iPhone from your computer. So that is pretty cool. You also get the live activities in your top menu bar, right? Yes. So do you think Domino's Pizza Tracker can be on my menu bar now? If it's a live activity.

1:06:05Absolutely. Domino's is always at the forefront of every new technology, so I guarantee they'll be there. We also did not talk about the most important change, colored folders. Yeah, I was going to say that. And you can put emojis on the folders as well. Colored emoji folders. Real organization chops here. It'll match perfectly with liquid glass. Yes. Everything else, no color, color. Red folder with green emoji with liquid glass background is just diabolical. This is chaos. Yeah. You laugh. I cannot wait for this. Johnny Ive leaves and everything falls apart. All right. So that's basically all of it for the rapid fire.

1:06:46I think the last one we're going to do is the big one, iPadOS 26. But before we get to that, let's take one more quick break, which means it's time for one more trivia question. I dropped the gun. Sorry. No, it felt smooth. It felt like that was kind of like integrated. You know what else was preemptive? Were you? paying attention i was i swear is that the definition were you i was then on the very first frame of wwdc it's a close-up of craig in an f1 car sure is can you name me one of the sponsors that were on his helmet the sponsors helmet specifically any of them anything on that frame i'll take it in that not the car that he was driving because that's a very obvious brand oh boy why does that need more money well no it was for the f1 movie so like f1 racers are typically sponsored by a bunch of brands i have a lot of questions about the logistics of that sponsors on well no but he was wearing the thing from the movie that apple made yeah that's still surprising but wait think of this logistically apple apple made a movie about formula one right formula one just like nascar notorious for having lots of sponsors on jerseys helmets and cars yeah so if you're gonna make a movie that's ultra realistic about formula one you must also therefore have lots of sponsor logos they use real company they use all the exact real company logos and all the sponsor names how does that work did they have to pay for that no no don't don't marie it doesn't matter it's a movie you know it doesn't matter what does matter is if you're a youtuber and you got flown out to a race specifically to shoot a video and then they tell you once you're there hey you're not allowed to shoot anything because there's lots of other brands in it yeah i'm just wondering like apple whenever they have uh iphones that appear in movies they just go it's fine you can use it as long as the iphone isn't the bad guy's phone so they understand that there's just going to be apple logos that show up sometimes but if you're who pays who just you know random company here coca-cola and there's a movie about an f1 driver who crashes the car like does that are you mad do you not want the logo in there Are you cool with that?

1:08:53I don't know. Is making an F1 movie the infinite money lich where you just get a million free sponsors inside of it and get paid for all of those plus the money you make on it? I feel like you might have to be doing the paying. There's no way that they were using these brand names without contacting these brands because one of them in particular is like a very big brand in a particular field that I'm not going to name because I might give you a hint. I'm going to write it down because I think I remember. I don't know. I don't remember a single brand. What if I write down like four different brands?

1:09:23It's a watch company and I guaranteed none of you guys have heard of it. You can write down as many as you want. If you give me one of them. They just have Apple ads all over it. It's kind of weird for them to use real sponsors. It would be weird if the Apple created shows all their sponsors on the car was Apple. When I see the Ferrari F1 car, I expect the Bitdefender logo on the helmet every single time. You expect the big blue HP. I also expect it to be behind McLaren. And it's usually right behind Verstappen, am I right? And there's the Red Bull team, the McLaren team. These are all brand names.

1:10:03Anyway. Is Verstappen a real one? Verstappen, yeah. Is that a guy? That's a last name. Is he an F1 driver? Yeah. He is. I'm so good at casually injecting information in my brain. Just keep thinking about F1. We will have the answers at the end like usual. We'll be right back.

1:10:30All right, welcome back. We've got one more big OS update to talk about from Apple this week, and that is the iPad. Now, the history of iPad updates has been very consistent. We've got maybe five or six years of iPads under our belt where I review the iPad and I say the same thing that I said the last year when I reviewed the iPad, which is, man, this hardware is so good, so impressive, so thin, so fast, beautiful screen, but it's still an iPad. I always say that line, but it's still an iPad. And that's because it's still the same iOS on steroids kind of software where if you were hoping to make it your computer, it is clearly not up to that.

1:11:13It's not designed for that. And heck, it's Apple. Why would we expect them to do that? They make computers. If they wanted to sell you a computer, it's over there. It's called a Mac. So they're always so separate for so long. And I've watched so many YouTube videos over the years of YouTubers going, can I make it my main computer? And I've made one or two of these videos too with the iPad Pro. You know, there's a little bit better file management. I could upload a YouTube video from the tablet and also it had a desktop agent so I could even mess around in the Dropbox. There was hacks that I could kind of get work in, but it was never quite comfortable.

1:11:48Stage manager came along. It was okay. This year, iPadOS 26 genuinely feels like they just decided to make it more of a Mac. This time will be different. They just did the thing. It was kind of shocking. It was kind of crazy. Like they did all, they added full free form windows. Like you can just drag from the corner and make a bunch of windows is whatever size you want. Multiple overlapping windows, on screen, off screen, full screen. They also added a menu bar at the top. And window controls on those windows. And we had the stoplight menu for like closing or minimizing or change the size of windows.

1:12:33There's a new redesigned files app. There is a new audio input selector, which I also confirmed will work with Bluetooth microphones. Ooh. I used to have to, I've been paying for apps to do this for like years. Every time I test Bluetooth headphones, I'm like, how do I do this test? This is going to be the worst part. Yeah. There are so many things in iPadOS. Preview app. The new preview app, you can export to different file sizes and types, like all of this stuff. The new files app can let you sort by or organize by showing different types of attributes for your files. the liquid glass is still there obviously but i i am just way way more confident that i can use the ipad uh like a computer have you seen the like plugging it in with a trackpad yeah there's a real pointer now it's just a real mouse oh yeah instead of like that blob that was like snapping you called it aim assist i thought that was perfect yeah it's just a mouse now finally this is what i wanted this is yeah this is right up your alley you don't even need decks you literally just plug it into a monitor and maybe throw on like the keyboard attachment with the trackpad it's a computer oh i plan to try yeah my summer will be dedicated between this and the android developer android 16 developer beta that just came out i'm going to be trying to replace this laptop with one of these yeah man i these desktops so much i think you can really do it i think so there's obviously you know if you have certain apps that you need you have got to make sure those apps work like the final cut on the ipad is going to be different from final cut on the mac so you You have to be okay with the lack of plugins.

1:14:02There's certain things that work differently. But there are background apps or background actions now. So if I hit export and then I leave Final Cut and head to the web browser and open up Frame I.O. to get ready to upload or whatever, it will continue to export in the background. I cannot believe that that wasn't a thing before. I know. I cannot believe that wasn't a thing before. All of these things, all in one update just feels like, like if they did one of these things, it'd be like, oh, it's a little closer. but they did all of these things. So now, would you rather buy a MacBook Air or an iPad?

1:14:34Okay, so what user am I? Am I me? Yeah. Or am I regular, am I my sister? Am I like a recent college grad? Am I what? Which type of person were we talking about? Do you want to do, well. I think if it was me. Be me. Yeah, okay. I use Final Cut Pro for Mac heavily. You do? So in the, yeah, I'm a big video guy. I don't know if you know. What? So I cannot main this as my main editing computer. Right. For everything else, yes, I can. So I'm the person that's going to have to keep a Mac around, and I think a lot of power users who have specific apps that they use on the Mac are going to have to keep a Mac around.

1:15:17But as far as taking it everywhere with me, I don't have to do that anymore. I can take the iPad everywhere with me, and if I need the Mac, I'll go to where the Mac is. right that's the difference and the the thing that they did with the ipad final cut app was that they were trying to make it so that you could just do a base like cut edit so that you could then throw it to your mac anyway yeah i will say a lot of the demos that apple does and that any of these companies do with video editing is i don't know how to describe it but it's just hilarious to me because it's so contrived they'll be like and now i want to add a background song so i'll just drag this here and boop looks good all done i'm like wait what that's it that's how easy that's how they edit they just go drag something in and it's perfect because they had a stage for that but yeah i think it's for simple edits yeah it's fine i will say davinci resolve has a full ipad app that who was sitting next to me and said that i did and that was you and i was sitting next to you yes that's what i'm remembering thank you wow hey i remember i was paying attention or you're paying attention to me sitting next to you for two hours well because i was also in a briefing with tyra stallman we talked about something else and there's some other photo stuff but yes that so yeah the full-on ipad app that is an option but i don't want to i don't know if i want to relearn yeah i get it yeah but for people that are already on resolve that's pretty amazing like you can pretty much just use the full ipad i'm not on resolve and i spent yesterday like at least two hours is watching a bunch of iPad Resolve tutorials and I want to try it.

1:16:50It looks doable. Vin raves about the color controls and results. It's way better. It used to just be a coloring app and they built out editing. Also, it doesn't crash all the time. Is that right? Allegedly. That's actually a huge upside. Allegedly. If that's true. Okay. Huge if true. Does it support Red Raw? Yeah. Okay. And it also has like, it had AI like cutout features before Final Cut did. Oh yeah. Yeah, because the magnetic mask is kind of fire in Final Cut. It's pretty good on Resolve. I've seen people use it who I know are not the best editors in the world, and it looks pretty good. Hey, hey, hey, I'm right here.

1:17:25You're still learning. It looks a lot like Final Cut. Okay, so maybe not the biggest learning curve? No, there's a learning curve. There's definitely a learning curve. But it doesn't look that different than Final Cut. Okay, because it's got the nodes, and you have to sort of learn the process of editing in it. Nodes. I may give this a spin. I got a seven-hour flight coming up. Whoa, okay. Seven hour. We'll see. Did you see it? Where are you going? Narnia? Yeah. That's a door. That would be a pretty quick flight. San Francisco. Yeah. Six. The other thing we didn't mention, the local capture. It was pretty cool.

1:17:59Riverside. Riverside. But it says it can do it with any video conferencing app. Yes. So this is going to be built into the OS. Yeah. Where if you are, and it's interesting, I don't know if the Mac is going to do this too, but basically if you are on a video conferencing app, let's say you're going to do a podcast with someone over Zoom, it will be able to record your camera and microphone feed locally. The other person does that at the same time. And then you put all the files together and you can then edit those files together, which is similar to what Riverside does. That's the killer feature of Riverside, actually.

1:18:28It really is. And then this plus now the microphone input change. Yeah. It's like a pretty solid. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. As someone that has to like talk to people through this setup process in Riverside, I I am not going to trust this with people. I'm curious. I think it might be exactly what we need. I think it's awesome. I just don't think that people will understand how it works, where to find it in files, how to send it to me after. There's like so many things that Riverside takes care of automatically that I'm just going to keep trusting Riverside for now. Is this even going to work on the Mac?

1:19:02Or is this only iPad? That's the biggest thing. This is definitely an iPadOS feature. This is where I saw it demoed, and this is the part in the keynote that they showed it. So I assume it's iPad only. interesting but yeah i this struck me as like on a super super super simple podcast setup this would work uh yeah the more variables you have the more you might probably want to use riverside but yeah yeah i think if it's it's great for like you're starting out you're like oh me and my friend want to start a podcast we have ipads perfect that is like the ideal situation for like us in a professional setting i personally would not rely 100 on it yeah yeah that's fair if they can just bring dota 2 to ipad os then i don't need my laptop anymore is that your killer mac app that you're stuck to mac with yeah so mine's final cut pro yours is do i also need a video editor and i use lightroom classic instead of lightroom mobile but you know you got pixelnator i mean there's also a lightroom mobile you can just use that but yeah yeah i'm excited i I expect that video again is what I'll say.

1:20:07Expect the can the iPad be my computer video, but this time in a much more optimistic tune. Everything's computer. Seems like it's possible. Yeah, we had that what is a computer moment. It was literally as they went down the list of things, we started when the first feature of moving Windows around happened. We were like, what is a computer? And they showed the toolbar and we were like, what is a computer? and they start going through like file management and like the mouse all the mouse stuff and we're like wait a minute yeah windows serious different windows yeah snapping they went down the whole list so yeah you can flick the windows around now and they'll like automatically snap to the sides yeah yeah it's pretty cool what an age we truly live in an age of wonders i think craig had a moment in the end of the keynote where he was like wow how about that yeah he did yeah he he He said something quite funny that was kind of referencing that they're intentionally keeping the iPad from being a computer.

1:21:05And they were like, yeah, a little bit more now. Yeah. I didn't want to say this in Slack yesterday during the event because I thought everyone would laugh at me. But now that we're with the people that I'm like. Let's record the laugh. I was going to say now that I'm with the people, you're right. Now everyone on Twitter can laugh at me too. there was one feature they mentioned super briefly in iPad OS that people were joking about in the slack but it's serious guys it's really serious because I bought my Apple Pencil specifically oh yeah at the Apple event like we were we were in Cupertino we were shooting whatever and it was the the Apple event where they announced the journal app and as soon as they announced that I went and I bought an Apple Pencil online that moment I was like yes and then I bought it before they finished introducing the journal app and then at the end they were like iPhone only and I was like are you kidding me are you kidding me does anyone use the journal app yeah what kind of idiot uses it that'd be crazy to use and so now the fact that my dreams of using the Apple Pencil to write my journal in bed like a little like a little kid with my on my stomach with my my shins up in the air boy everyone is like oh apple pencil for journal that's i was like this is all i've ever wanted they know thanks craig target demographic was impressed yeah yeah uh by the way all these window management features all come to the ipad mini i just i need to see five windows open on the ipad yeah this is it does not look nice.

1:22:45Do you have it already? I have it on the iPad mini. That's the first thing I did too. And it's a lot. Also notes did add markdown as we predicted last time. And the calculator, the math notes in the math notes calculator added 3D graphing capabilities which we should try. Can I just say the markdown coming to Apple notes is actually a pretty big deal because that is the one reason why I have not been using Apple notes as my main note taking app because everything is kind of like stuck there in Apple notes formatting and that's kind of it and I jump around too much uh I want to see if you can export these notes because if you can export them in markdown import them into another note taking app that supports markdown did anyone mention that but you know if you could do that that's huge I want to double check but I think you can because then that makes it a truly like interoperable note taking app which means that you can use I can use it.

1:23:38Yeah. Fire. So there you have it. Cool beans. Computers. What is computer? All of them are name number 26. All of them. We need to clip those two clips together. We will have reviews, of course. I mean, watch the recap video on the main channel if you haven't already seen it. But there will be like full on videos of all these things because they are so deep and so interesting. And so, yeah, new. Fascinating. New glass. We didn't talk at all about Apple Intelligence. I don't think there is much. Neither did they. I mean, there's like visual intelligence on screen now. So if you wanted to highlight something in a screenshot, it's like Circle to Search.

1:24:16It's basically the same thing. Oh, I like the new screenshots. The UI? Yeah, the new screenshots UI is really cool. Okay, this actually makes a lot of sense. And it helped me sort of understand why the Pixel Screenshots app exists, especially after talking to a lot of normies. um but when you take a screenshot now it puts you into this new interface where you can mark it up you know you can do the classic markup thing um what was the other thing you could do with it well if there was text in it of like a if you took a picture of like a sorry if you took a screenshot of like someone inviting you to an event it would have a single button to add it to your apple calendar right or if you took a screenshot of some product it would allow you the opportunity to like reverse image search that product.

1:25:01It would show you, it would highlight a button for you at the bottom, depending on the context of what you take a screenshot of. Indeed. Which is smart. None of that stuff is showing up on mine, but maybe it will. That may be coming soon. Beta one, baby. Yeah. If they had announced all of these features at last year's DubDub and then at the end been like, and all of these cool things are powered by like Apple intelligence, I think it would have gone over a lot better. Yeah. You know, there are, there are some things in these updates that are technically AI, but they're not as explicitly saying this is AI or this is Apple intelligence.

1:25:32And I thought that was interesting. It is the Apple way. Presenting Apple intelligence as an omnipotent force. That is too perfect for us to comprehend as mortals. Like the idea that like, Oh, you wonder how that works. It's Apple intelligence. I just leave it there. That's perfect. That's great. Yeah. It's very Apple. I do think that they have traditionally like used, like remember when math notes came out and everyone was like, Oh, is this using AI? And they're like, no, it's just machine learning. Like, I really like when Apple just downplays, like, how amazing the technology they can make is.

1:26:03And I felt like this dub-dub, they were doing that again. They kind of, like, they talked about Apple intelligence at the very beginning, kind of shoved it to the side. And it just felt like a dub-dub before AI forced them to create Apple intelligence, which nobody wanted. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, it felt like an Apple that was not under the pressure of the stock market. So, yeah. It's nice. Yeah. Should I install the beta on my phone? Or not yet? Is it buggy as hell? Are you an alpha or are you a beta? Well, I mean, should I put it on my main phone? I'm mating it. Any regrets? It restarted twice this morning.

1:26:44Okay, I'm not going to do it. But other than that. I'm waiting. Other than that. And it gets really hot. Like really hot. Is it like blasting through battery? It's not really. I'm at 65%. All right, I'm going to wait. I'm at 46, 46. Oh, because I was a flight this morning. That's why. Oh, yeah. All right. Do you want the glass UI or do you not? Liquid glass. I'll probably put it on a secondary phone. That's not my main phone. Okay. And play with it there. Are we not allowed to talk about the liquid ass flub? Because it was funny. We can. Can we not talk about that? No, we can. Liquid ass. I've been trying not to say it this entire podcast.

1:27:23Yeah. Yeah, I like to believe that like Tim Cook had to personally reupload a new YouTube thumbnail for this. Well, people need to know. Okay, so they put out. What are you talking about? Explain it. They put out a YouTube video that was talking about liquid glass and the YouTube play button logo that automatically goes over it covered the G and the L. So it just said liquid ass, which is really funny. And then everyone memed it online and then they changed the thumbnail. so now it's left aligned and things are stacked instead of it being centered anyway it was really funny well there's only one more thing left to do this episode i think you know what it is

1:28:08were you paying attention that's right another event means another installment of were you paying attention. We're all familiar with the joke of Apple's crack product marketing team traveling around California getting inspiration. Why is it called crack? Crack pot. Like, not really, right? No, isn't that what it is? It's like, oh, he's a crack investigator. Not like a crack investigator, but like can you explain this? I'll be honest, I've only ever heard it when Craig said it. No, it's a thing. Every year, one time I hear somebody say crack and it's Craig. Wait, can I just double check? No, it's a thing.

1:28:47Coincidence? Someone asked Gemini. All right, well, you guys are figuring that out. I need to tell something. I have the transcript up. Crack, when you use crack as an adjective like this, it can only apply to a team, a crack team of people. Really? Yes, and it dates back to the late 1700s in English. So everyone can say, I'm sorry, Ellis. I agreed with you. I'm cutting it, so. You're cutting it? Absolutely. You're cutting my hilarious crack investigator? Welcome back. Trivia. This is definitely the first time we recorded me saying this question and not because I totally misspoke. But Craig Federighi made his normal joke of Apple's crack team of product marketers traveling around California, getting inspiration for the new name.

1:29:36But this time he mentioned a weekly ski trip that this team takes. Mandatory. Yeah, it was a weekly mandatory ski trip. That was so funny. Wow. You know, Craig, sometimes you really hit him with the zingers. But he used one particular very un-Apple word to describe the tracks left in the snow during the ski trip. What was that word? Hit it. Very un-Apple word? Very un-Apple word. Wait, play the Were You Paying Attention sound. Were you paying attention? Thanks. Wow, layers. There's layers to this. unapple unapple very not apple i've never heard anything like this word used in any sort of apple presentation

1:30:25all right who wants to go first

1:30:32did you write fat that's awesome fat with a ph which unfortunately isn't correct that would i I wrote something with the Google Play buttons covering it up and I can't read it, so it must be right. I wrote glistening. Oh, no. Unfortunately. I wrote Google. I love that answer, but unfortunately it is wrong. The correct answer is... But macOS demands more. Fortunately, after carving some bodacious tracks... The word was bodacious. That's very Apple-like. The word was bodacious. That's extremely Apple-like. That is not Apple-like. It's extremely Craig. Like Craig's skit Apple. I don't know about that, man.

1:31:14That music, that was bodacious type music. Well, you all got that one wrong. But before I give you the chance to get another question wrong, I'm going to pass it to my co-host, Adam, who's going to update you on the scores. Marquez with 25. Andrew with 16. David. David, how old are you? I'm 30. With 30! all right so next question in the first frame of the wwdc 20 20 25 26 i don't know in wwdc the first frame craig is riding in an f1 car he's got a helmet tell me what one of the ads are on his helmet you didn't ask how old i was marquez how old are you 25 25 25 you know what's better than 25? 26.

1:32:0830. I think this might be the largest lead anyone has ever had. What brand would Apple associate with? I don't even... I didn't see a single ad on there that I thought was a real thing. I thought they were all fake. They're all real. So I just made up some letters that I think I saw. Okay, great. You might get it right. Flip them and read. Wow. Did I? No. I'm close though. You're closer than I thought you would have got. You're 30 % there. Is it like IFN? No, you're 30 % there. I should have guessed FTX. You only got one right. Yeah. Gonna give it to you. Is it really X? Okay. IFX. Wrong. Marques.

1:32:53I have two. Okay. Expensify. Correct. That was one of them. Geico? No, not Geico. There was an Expensify? Expensify was one of the ads on his helmet. Marques was paying attention. That's crazy. Did you look it up? No. You know how I remember this? I'll tell you after. I'll tell you after you give your answer. Siri. Nope. Yeah. My answer is they have that Formula One car sitting in Apple Park, and they paraded us all over to go look at it. I didn't get to see it. And the first thing I was thinking was, how did they get all these brands to agree to all of this? And I remember that Xpensify was right on the nose cone.

1:33:31Andrew was actually very close as well. what was the close to he was close he said i what'd you say i fx ipx apx oh that's what i was and then you were also close to iwc so i was thinking apx oh there is a shell one no that's an actual formula one driver oh but shark ninja are on there like the the streamer you know like the blender. Oh. A blender company has enough money for that? Dude, Ninja is not. Ninja has money. Dude, it's not just a blender, bro. It's a way of life. It's not a gym. There's the first frame right there. Huh. That's crazy. Expensify. It is kind of being obfuscated. Yeah. Wow.

1:34:19That's wild. Yeah, I still wonder how the brands thing work, but we don't know the answers. They probably won't tell us the answers, but But hey, it's a movie you can watch at some point, probably in like a month. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening and for tuning in with us this week as we plow through all this WWDC stuff. There will be more coverage of this stuff because we want to use them. We want to show it on camera. We might find some cool features, some hidden stuff you didn't see in the keynote, etc. That always happens every year. So get subscribed to the other channels just like you're subscribed here to see that when it comes out too.

1:34:47See you next week. Bye. We have a former spruce by Adam Molina and Ellis Roven. We're partnered with the Vox Media Podcast Network. and our structure music was created by vain so bingo

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