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34:44And the random shots that I was going to take with the zoom were always worse because they would just be like lazily zooming in with the software instead of intentionally framing it up with the software. primary camera what kind of are you that is exactly yeah that's a real uh cope but it is yeah i mean it's the same excuse that a lot of film photographers use yeah i'm more intentional because it's harder that was one of my old old hot takes was primes are stupid what what okay we need to cut this before this is a three-hour episode primers just not next bonus opinion opinion. I have an opposite.

35:22Prove me wrong. Primes are just bad zooms. Did any of you guys see the Toy Story 5 trailer? Zoom with their feet, man. Toy Story 5 trailer? No. Zoom with your feet. Zoom like this. No, I did not see the Toy Story 5 trailer. I'm just imagining Marques with his feet up on his zoom lens. Zoom with your feet, bro. Spongebob toes. It was like... This is very fast, but none of you guys saw the Toy Story 5 trailer? No. It is, all it is... Oh, I did see a frame from AM. Is a box in Andy's room, or I don't even know if it's Andy anymore. All of the toys quivering and freaking out, and then at the end, they pull out a tablet.

36:09It's basically just, I guess, the new movie is about all the toys being really scared of the tablet taking away... Honestly, fire concepts. That's a good... That seems like a good like AI trailer someone would make on Twitter and you're like, ah, good idea. But they're actually going to make this a movie. This is from Pixar. I want to ask your opinion on this, Andrew, as the only parent in the room, because I have a friend who now has two children and he is struggling making sure that they don't not you, Ellis, making sure that they don't have tablet kids. Like, how is that working out for you?

36:38The only time she looks at a tablet is because we have one for FaceTime with some family. She watches TV sometimes. And then like if we're on a really long car ride and like pushing bedtime or like something where we're getting real cranky, then I can throw on her favorite show. But does she have like a bunch of toys? Like and that's what you. She has toys. She loves to play. Okay. Play with toys. Follow up question. Is she up or down over time on her Polymarket account? She's terrible at Polymarket. Always making all these bets. No, I'm an iPad kid, I think. they didn't have the ipad when you were a kid no i'm i am an ipad kid now currently i am a kid i like make food sit down at the like in the living room and then i'm just like scrolling through like claire will be done eating dinner i'm like we haven't even picked what to watch yet claire help me stop eating yeah oh my god i think i eat more of my meals with a screen in front of me than not oh my god lately i'm not doing that because now i eat dinner with lane and claire and we don't do it in front of the TV.

37:44But yeah, before, I would like actually get mad at Claire sometimes. We used to be a country. We used to be. You should try it. Mealtime. Check out the Mealtime Videos subreddit. Tell me that's not just bangers. I do know about that. I've never heard of that. Mealtime Videos, 20, 30 minute videos that you just sit it down and eat your, and it's just great. That seems like a great subreddit to spam your YouTube channel on to get some loyal followers. But it's gotta be like the, yeah, that perfect length of video. I hope that Toy Story 5, I hope that the big ethical question that they explore is what's happening to our children with the iPad.

38:19I feel like it's got to be. I really hope so. Based on the trailer. It's a big thing. It's a big deal. It is. It's a big ethical question. There's a lot of iPad kids. The funny thing about it is the amount of kids that will probably watch Toy Story 5 on an iPad is a large percentage. Through the roof. And they won't understand what they're watching. They won't be like, is this bad for my brain development? No, they're going to have it split screen with Google Docs. Yeah. And Polymark. picture in pictures trading stocks while watching door story five in their diaper all right well let's take a quick break and do some trivia and we got a little more to talk about after but let's hit it

38:56scooby dooby doo guys i have two potential questions for today i figured i'd ask would you rather answer a question about battery sizes or socks socks socks battery sizes Guys, that iPhone sock is really expensive. But what is more expensive? A, the most recent brand new in package, excuse me, brand new inbox listing sold on eBay, like the Vue old sold products, of a five pack of the original 2004 iPod socks. Really long way. Unopened. Unopened five pack in the packaging. B, the short strap iPhone pocket, not the long strap. The 150. Or C, a pair of plain white men's socks from the fashion brand Balenciaga.

39:53That's two socks. God. Plain white men. You know how a plain white t-shirt would be like$200. I also realize it's a little confusing because the first item is five socks, the second item is one sock, and the third item is two socks. So we're going by skews here. just make it clear. Plain white like there's not even a Balenciaga logo on it. It says the word Balenciaga in black text. I know what the answer is. All right well we'll think about that. Of course if we don't get it right we'll at least learn something very interesting about socks. We'll be right back.

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43:41WAVE. Rules and restrictions may apply. Oh, hey, welcome to gift wrapping. Whoa, Zoe Saldana. Hey, can you wrap these, please? Wow, iPhone 17s. You splurged. At T-Mobile, you can get four iPhone 17s on them. It's the perfect gift for everyone. I'm the worst. I only got my mom a robe. Well, it's better than socks. So I have to trade in my old phone, right? No, at T-Mobile, there's no trade-ins needed when you switch. Keep your old phone or give it as a gift. Incredible. In fact, wrap up my old phone too. For my Aunt Rosa. Forget that. Aunt Liz will be jealous. Sounds like my family drama. Oh, I got it.

44:18I'll give it to my abuela. I'll take reindeer paper with... Hey, where are you going? To T-Mobile! Thanks, Zoe! The holidays are better at T-Mobile. Get four iPhone 17s on us. No trade in needed when you switch. Plus four lines for just$25 a line. With 24 monthly bill credits and four eligible portings on essentials. For well-qualified customers, auto pay plus taxes, fees, and$35 device connection chart. credits end imbalance do if you pay off earlier cancel contact us finance agreement 256 gigabytes 830 dollars required visit t-mobile.com all right welcome back i'm going to do a very very quick recap of gta 6 getting delayed because i don't think any of us here i've never played gta before i played some older ones god what is wrong i've only sat on the couch during covid and watched michael fisher play gta that's all that's all i've done that's that's pretty close to playing yeah i guess well okay so grand theft auto has been delayed till november 19th 2026 let's go baby it's no that is one year from now um it had already been delayed to may 2026 but now i guess months before that even happening they decided we can't even hit that one we're delaying another year let's go um that's that's a long time it's already the meme of like we already got blank and blank before gta 6 like everywhere so the iphone sock before g we got the iphone isn't that the one that had the trailer come out that was super super viral yeah that was gta 6 oh yeah it's like one of the highest viewed youtube videos of all time so what do you think is delaying it what do you oh well so their official quote was we're sorry for adding additional time to what we realize has been a long wait but these extra months will allow us to finish the game with level of polish that you have come to expect and deserve well one of the biggest polymarket uh bets is whether or not gta 6 will be over a hundred dollars and there's like people have put so much money into this bed it's got to be over right the bundle or just the game i think just the base game like just a hundred dollars there's no way usually games are like 67 you can spend over a hundred dollars on a new copy of 2k uh but the base copy is like 80 or 90 i think you still that's one of the more expensive well yeah but they were working on gta 6 for like yeah it's like the biggest game it's true it has the most hype it has the most like people waiting for it and delays i mean it's essentially infinite demand and they can make infinite supply i think if they made it 110 bucks people would buy it yes they would don't say that i'm just it's true i it's i hate saying it because i don't want it to be true but it's like one of those things where it's like we want it to be 40 bucks remember how mad people were i mean this is exactly what happened with mario kart world people were so mad that it was 80 but it's exactly what you're saying people will still buy it yeah they'll grumble all the way to the cash register yeah there was some insane stat that was like 95 of people who own a switch to also own mario kart world well that's because there's no other games out well it's the best game for it but yeah that's it's fair yeah you know what really pisses me off about this delay what that i've been doing a good job of keep putting it out of my head that oh gta 6 is delayed like okay whatever no big deal I like forget about it.

47:24I go about my life, live happily ever after. And then they announce that they're delaying it again and remind me that it's deleted. And I was like, I was fine. So you're looking forward to it. Oh, I'm buying this game. Oh, really? Yeah. I hope it's not over$100 more because don't put that in. It has been. How long has it been since the last one? I'm 15 years or something. I have to guess because my sister's husband, when he was in college, apparently skipped a bunch of classes when he bought. when the last one came out to play it and in the process of playing it got his car stolen

47:59that's amazing um but yeah so i i think it'll be you know something similar happened with cyberpunk where they delayed delayed delayed and then it came out and it was it had some issues um and it got scrutinized to all hell because partially because of how much it got delayed so yeah this thing better be polished um i am interested we just saw silksong come out and make a bunch of games push outside yeah this feels like this is going to be like that whatever top tier oh yeah gaming version of that like uh big big company doing it where i would not doubt if some companies plan to come out next fall yeah and are like just kidding gta6 you know i think there was a bunch of people that changed their release dates like a bunch of companies for silk song or no for already for this no and they changed it because they thought it was coming out at a certain time and now this is happening they're like scrambling like oh my god i saw a tweet that said like when you got your wife pregnant to time it perfectly with the gta and then they delay it that's brutal yeah you know it's funny um the last gta came out in 2013 it's been delayed twice the last streetlight manifesto album came out in 2013 and it's been delayed twice.

49:11Which one's going to come out first, baby? We'll find out. That's a new Polymarket. Yeah, it's going to be GTA or Streetlight Manifesto. We'll see. Is this not financial advice? No. And we do not endorse Polymarket. Or delaying. Or Streetlight Manifesto. I do. Speaking of Streetlight Manifesto, because it's music, Spotify, as we know, every year does the big wrapped thing. Spotify creating their wrapped thing has really made every other company in the world decide to look at all your data except youtube you well well yeah well youtube google does everything too early and too cringe and because of that they just they can never come back you know it's like social media too early a little too cringe um any glasses too early too cringe so spotify now is thinking of doing a new oh it's out oh it's out yeah they thought about it and then they did it a weekly wrapped where they release your listening stats so now you can just click on an icon and it is right there in the drop down menu it shows you your top five artists and top five songs of the week and then each of those lists has some more like your top song suggestions under that so it's kind of like your release radar in a way it's sort of just like i don't know it's telling you what you were listening to and then giving you suggestions because I think the number one complaint about Spotify and probably most music streaming services at this point is that you just get trapped in this little circular algorithm of artists that are kind of like each other and that just suggest them constantly in a circle forever until the end of time.

50:49It depends on what type of artist they are. Sometimes if you're in like a more niche artist and then they're only connected to a few other niche ones then you get in a circle. But if you're in like, you have to like find the biggest spoke that has the most outside connection and then you like slingshot out via that artist. like a demon hunters album yeah yeah yeah kind of yeah anyway yeah go on that's pretty much it i think yeah it is that's what it is but andrew wanted any interesting andrew wanted us to share our top five i think we should all share our top five songs you should also go back to last week because it it continues it sets it up into weeks so right now the current week is only one day old this is like useless to me because i'm one of those psychos that listen to the same thing constantly for like a week same oh yeah well do you so are you i have a feeling we're the same type of spotify listener yeah you like have two or three songs that you just found that you you repeat through them over and over and over again until you're sick of them and then you find three new ones and then that's the rotation yeah and then when you go back and find the last three it reminds you of the time oh what what a time that was yeah okay yeah no i'm the same way yeah i've been i have a song that i've been listening to by feed me so much in the past month i am very confident it's going to be one of the top songs of the year for me.

52:02Like, very confident. What is it called? The song is called Stop Motion. By Feed Me? By Feed Me. Feed Me. Every time we do this, I realize I probably have the worst taste of music. So yeah, Feed Me was my number one artist. There's nothing wrong with Bruce Springsteen. There's nothing wrong with Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, that's not a surprise to me. The Mountain Goats, and then Attaboy, which nobody knows. and then parcels but it's down because it's five weeks in my top five because they had a new album that came out that was fire five weeks in your top five yeah wow oh it's oh yeah i tend to if there's a new if there's a new artist that i find i listen to their discography non-stop for three months until i hate them and you just pick your okay and then you get like one week of someone else and then you probably dive back yes that's exactly what it does we have similar listening patterns yeah uh and then two artists that I don't listen to, but I think keep getting suggested and auto-playing after the Mountain Codes plays.

53:00Yes. They had a new album come out this week, too, that was fire. What you got, Ellis? I know you got something fun. I'm confused, man. I guess mine... Don't go to the current week just because it's only been one day. I listen to music in a ton of different ways. I have Spotify, I have a CD player and a tape player at home. I've been listening to a lot of music on YouTube. What the hell is a tape player? Oh, that's that thing with the... You take it out and you flip it. Oh, I know what that is. Do you know what that tape is? No, you're right. I know what that is. Yeah, you're right, Ellis. We're so old, Ellis.

53:37Leave it to Ellis to be like, hey, what's an artist you listen to? Well, here's all of the ways I listen to music. See, I can do that on the street TikTok and the give me an apartment tour on the street TikTok at the same time. It's just efficient. No, so I'm really confused because half of these songs I don't even know, which means I think it was like they algorithmically played once and yeah, because I use, that's what happened to me. So I have a, my top artist is John Coltrane, which I don't remember listening to John Coltrane that week. My, uh, my top song is lean for real by playboy cardi.

54:12Another song I don't know. Um, and then the rest is just Sade, which checks out. Nice. Uh, number one, new, new jobs. I don't know how to pronounce it. Is this artist or song? Top songs. New Javas. New Javas, Sea of Cloud. Number two, Lupe Fiasco, The Cool. Force of Nature, Death Wish, number three. Golden, number four. No. You already know. Yes. Top five. And then Danielle. What's golden? Jurassic Five? No, it's Golden and K-pop Demon Hunters. Oh. It's high replay value. It's the main song. I'm telling you. It's been in my top five for multiple weeks, apparently. Sorry, what was the fifth one?

54:49Jack's Lament, Nightmare Before Christmas. It's a song. Because it was Halloween. Sounds like you're going up, up, up to the top, Adam. Nice. Mine's all over the place. I have Rosalita by Bruce Springsteen. Great song. No Broke Boys by Disco Lines and Tinashe. Because Lane and I dance to that song all the time. Don't blame your daughter. It's so good. Have you heard that song? It's really good. Andrew's definitely on the way home. It's a kid song called No Broke Boys. No, it's not a kid. It is not a kid song. Okay. Good. I Want to Get Better by Bleachers, All Falls Down by Alan Walker and Drama Free by Deadmau5.

55:24Where's her T-Sweep? Drama Free by, is that new? It's New Word. You definitely know it. It's a few years old though. I don't know if I've heard of that song. You have. It sounds like we all listen to completely different music. Sometimes our studio blend is just insane. Am I on that? Yeah. We haven't been on it for a while. I haven't looked at it. David, did you listen to my cool music playlist I sent you, the YouTube link? Not yet. Cool. Cool. Just kidding. Well, you sent it to me, and then I didn't work at my apartment for a while. Got it. All right. You know he only has internet in his apartment.

55:58Let's do two. Do you want to do the e-ink frame? Okay. Let's check it out. Last two weeks, three weeks? Actually, before, I just want to say it's actually pronounced e-ink. Oh, e-ink. E-ink? E-ink. E-ink. All right. So a few weeks ago, Andrew and I got very giddy about this new e-ink aura frame. And because ink is a very cool technology, we're super excited about it. They actually sent us over a couple of them, which is very cool. So they sent us like their normal frames, which are, you know, screens, outdated technology. Let's bring it back. But now we have actual ink. So, well, yeah, it's still electronic ink, electronic ink.

56:43So this I'm going to try to show this without too much glare from far away. It probably looks pretty good. and like up close it kind of looks like a half tone kind of look yeah i'm like four feet away or something and it looks like a photo in a photo yeah it kind of looks like a photo but i want to show you what happens when you change out the picture it's for audio listeners it's really convincing from a few feet away it's one of those things where you unbox it and you put your first picture and you're sitting right next to you're like oh man this looks pretty bad are you ready and then so when you change the picture which this is only supposed to do at night it just for like 20 seconds flashes like crazy it hasn't started oh wait no now it's gone okay it just flashes because i think it's changing all that's yeah it's moving it all around and changing all the different areas because so you'll see like part of the picture will stop flashing and then other parts will keep going if you've used a kindle before you've seen this effect in some version which is like you turn the page and it flashes and it brings the new text into effect This is just doing it with color and with way more detail.

57:44Yeah. So I've tried a lot of different photos with this. I really like it. It kind of looks like pixel art, where if you're far enough away, it looks like regular art. But when you get up close to it, it's kind of like this halftone pixely thing. I will say it's not very good with black and white photos. I will show a black and white photo on it. Because it kind of like adds the sepia look to it because it's like not good at doing true blacks. It's not perfectly black. That's fair. Yeah. So it has a sort of like yellow cast. I think that it mixes in some of the yellow beads with the black beads.

58:18I'm not really sure why. This is just one of those pieces of technologies that I cannot get behind. You're wrong. For this specific use case. I'm happy. It's funny because it feels very atom core. Oops, I accidentally did it sideways. If you just spin it, it should. Oh, does it automatically? Oh, but then it has to. No, because there's no auto-rotate. Then it has to redo. Well, it does have auto-rotate, but it just needs to re-flash again. I should have done it. It's cool. one thing we forgot to mention the first time around is this is$500. This is like a new thing they're doing. It is very expensive.

58:46It's rotating. Oh, is it rotating? I've been enjoying it so far. I think the ultimate test will be, now that the holidays are coming up, I have it hung up. I'm interested to see how many family members walk by and if they notice that there's something off about it or if they just think it's another picture frame. So it's like pretty... No, it's doing it again. I don't think anyone's going to notice. Oh, no. I think it's fine. The issue that I have with something like this is part of the, to me, part of the point of taking pictures and printing them out is to like hand them out or in a hundred years find it in my attic or, you know, like those moments are kind of what makes - Yeah, but you can find this in your attic.

59:24It's e-ink. Yeah. And then it has an e-ink display with no picture or memory on it. It would have a picture on it. In a hundred years. Yeah. You don't think the battery would explode? It doesn't matter. I don't think you need to - It's like an etch-er sketch. It's getting set. It is like an Etch-a-Sketch. It won't erase it. Yeah, but when that thing's a big spicy pillow, I don't know how much. I think you don't have to pick one or the other, though. I still plan on having... $500? I'm not going to... I don't have one photo in my house, though. I'm not going to pay$500 for every photo to be an ink one.

59:56I'm going to have photos and art set up, but it's nice to have one that's a rotating one because you can't put every picture you ever take up on the wall. It also has... The app has positioning, and you can zoom in, and you can make it, because right now it has a little bit of a black border, but you can see it's not good at true black and white. Like it adds like a sepia look. And when I, like this is a 35 millimeter shot and when I bring it into the darkroom and do actual darkroom printing, those blacks are inky as heck and more inky than this. But you know, I think for the colors, it's quite nice.

1:00:26And I'm very excited to put it up and just have it cycle through some pictures because I think that's gonna be super cool. 500 is a lot, but it is one of the first things that does this, obviously. this has been like my dream forever so the technology will get cheaper eventually you know photo frames in general are really cheap now i mean the aura ones are not but that's because they're like ultra high resolution you can share they have all these features whatever but if you want just like a cheap photo frame you can get one of those for insanely cheap so i'm hoping that this technology catches on and it becomes you know better they get more ink blotches and you can do more true blacks i think that'd be nice yeah i guess the advantage of it is like because you can get a digital picture frame that rotates through and it's not e-ink and it looks fine but this one can kind of look more like a print well and this one also has a battery that can last three months so you can hang it on the wall without hiding a wire and then just charge it like your nest doorbell where you just take it off charge it for a couple hours every three months and all the battery really does is allow it to change photos and then have the little light in it that kind of illuminates it because it needs a little bit of or a front light not behind it but like if it dies it'll just stay static on whatever the last image is so that's also fine you know so I don't know I think it's cool I want to hang it up and see what it does I am being a grump on this I'm very whelmed I hope you feel good about being wrong Adam cool alright well I took this morning since it was...

1:02:03There's no segue here. I'm just jumping right into the next one. Okay. I'm not very away from it. Well, it's funny because I had this segue written for this and then I messed up the order of everything. Speaking of wrapped, smartphone season's wrapped. Anyways, it's a worse segue when you have to go back. Talk about wrap or something. I just decided that now that TechTember and Techtober have ended and we're kind of in our slower season, I wanted to pull some numbers from the main channel because we just wrapped up smartphone season. So I took August 1st to October 31st. That really feels like when all the big phones come out.

1:02:36And these numbers are pretty awesome. These are all just from main channel. So we had 115 ,800 ,000 long-form views, 11 ,100 ,000 long-form watch hours, 85 million short-form views, 783 ,000 watch hours short-form. um despite four of our top four five videos being shorts the number one video was actually a long form so our most viewed video in this wasn't a short it was long form with 13 million views um was the iphone 17 pro and air impressions that one looks really good awesome that one's really good uh you put the frame down it looks so cool look at how cool it looks our top five long form videos, iPhone 17 Pro and Air Impressions, iPhone 17 Pro Air Unboxing, Meta Ray-Ban Display Glasses, AirPods 3 Pro Review, Xiaomi 17 Pro Max.

1:03:31Some other notable things, unboxing the$40 ,000 sealed OG iPhone got 750 ,000 views in the last 90 days. That video is two years old. Also, the reviewing every Samsung Galaxy video had 700 ,000 views in the last three months that's from march 2024 and then only two videos the whole month didn't hit three million or the whole time span so last three months didn't hit three million views which is top five sports tech and investigating the tesla robo taxi 1.4 million and 2.9 million views the average view between those 16 videos in the last three months was 5.7 million geez that we cooks the last smartphone seasons was crazy and busy and it feels weird now that it's like slowing down but my favorite stat usually is just like taking the number of watch hours and converting that into years of human life that have been wiped from this planet um so just for context we're the reason toy story 5 is making the tablet so you can either read it as in total everyone watching the videos uh in short form just the short form videos oh That's only short form?

1:04:45wait for which one 783 000 watch hours was just it was only short for videos oh my god okay wait that's even better oh my god so 783 000 watch hours total spread amongst all the people who have been watching all the shorts that we uploaded that were a view during the month three you can think of or during the three months you can think of it as that or you can think of it as one person watching all of our shorts for 89 years straight kids know what that's like watching that is so much do you want to know how many years of long form it's been yeah i didn't even okay so times that by how long is that for long form it would be 1 ,272 years oh that's just not even possible for a human that's big to differ yeah longer than the earth you heard of brian johnson a thousand years of watch time is crazy for three months yeah but isn't that crazy you could just watch shorts for 89 years straight still wouldn't have equaled the amount mark has by display logic it's 1.5k years i hate that even more that's right yeah yeah anyway so that is hey that's thanks to you guys so shout out to you guys for watching the videos and uh You know, you say it's slowing down, Andrew, but it's still going.

1:06:05We just talked about a sock as the top. That's fair. In our defense, that was the top news story. I know. That's what I'm saying. We're slowing down. OnePlus 15, Trifold, random other stuff's happening still. Like, we're almost simmering down. And then the smartphone awards are coming up, and, like, we're kind of still on the thick of it. But, hey. Hey. All right. All right. We have one more segment that we want to do, which is overhyped or underhyped. Should we do that after the ad break? Yes. Yeah. Then let's do trivia. Trivia. Dude, it's trivia. Dude, we're doing trivia, dude. Trivia. So earlier in the episode, we were talking about tech brands that have done hypebeast collabs with fashion brands.

1:06:48So I have a question for you. Bathing Ape and Stash. Bathing Ape? Bathing Ape. Bape. Bathing Ape. He's an F1 driver. No. That's what Bape is? Bathing Ape? Can I look it up? No. They once collabed with which famous camera brand to launch a custom camera? Bathing Ape and Stash. The tea company? Stash? American visual artist Stash, a.k.a. Josh Franklin. Okay. One more confused. It's just, he's an artist. Okay. And they made a camera. They collabed to make a camera with which company? Okay. It's called the Stash Bape camera, which reminds me of... Bop-A. If you're a hype brand, you don't need to name things.

1:07:34It's awesome. That's crazy. Sony should be a hype company and stop naming things. One time when I was like a teenager, I woke up in the morning and I met my dad in the kitchen. He was like drinking coffee and I saw him like pick up a newspaper and it was the LA Times and there was a feature story about the rapper Earl Sweatshirt. And my dad picked it up and I just see he's like still waking up. No coffee. He goes, he says out loud, Odd Futures Earl's sweatshirt. And he just puts the paper down and looks at me and goes, what the f*** does that mean? Which is exactly how stash paper cameras sound.

1:08:12All right. Yeah. All right. We're definitely going to learn something this episode. We'll be right back.

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1:11:03Don't let financial opportunities slip through the cracks. Use code WAVE at monarch.com in your browser for half off your first year. That's 50 % off your first year at Monarch.com with code WAVE. This episode is brought to you by Disney. This Thanksgiving, Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde are back on the big screen. So grab your family and friends as Disney invites you to return to Zootopia for the phenomenal movie event of the holiday season. See all your favorite Zootopia characters plus new favorites in the most pawesome movie of the year. don't miss disney zootopia 2 when it hits theaters everywhere november 26th get your tickets now welcome back it is time for hypothetically speaking everyone's favorite segment where we have to decide if something is overhyped underhyped and the three hosts get one perfectly hyped oh yeah so i'm using it on the first thing the first thing okay here we go first thing bubble soap candy hyped overhyped or underhyped okay gta 6 well we can't how are we supposed to know that well it is clearly very very hyped we will be guessing on if it's over underhyped based on what we think the game will actually be i don't know if it's possible to know that you could use your perfectly hyped marquez said he was going to use this thing is okay the thing is when something is that hyped it's basically impossible to live up to the hype yeah so i think we would be safely probably correct if we said overhyped i i would agree with that when has a game ever been this hyped and lived up to it breath of the wild was that not nearly this is one of the most the trailer for it was one of the most viewed youtube videos of the year of all time that's crazy there's just so there's no way yeah i mean between those three options i'd probably I say overhyped.

1:12:58I'd say overhyped. I was going to be meaner about it. Same game, new city. Wow. I don't even know if that's true. We don't know if it's the same game, but it's basically the same. Where is it? Is it said in Miami? It's in Florida, not Miami. It's supposedly a different city. It's just Florida. I wish it was just like this. There are other cities in Florida? It's in Orlando. It's at Disney World. Never mind, underhyped. Original soundtrack by Florida Georgia Line. what's that place where they have all the boats where below deck is based what is blank stairs across wait guys there's two trailers there's a trailer from a year ago with 268 million views and then they did another trailer six months later which got another 139 million views there's no way lives up to this hype there's no shot I don't know man what if it does gta 5 is like one of the most sold games of all time if it does live up to the hype we'll come back to this episode and give it and underhyped or perfectly hyped.

1:13:54But as of right now, there's just... The Aswell shave his head. The Pony market odds. I use a better shot. It's overhyped. Yeah, it's definitely overhyped. I'll just say overhyped. Doesn't mean it's not great. All right, so overhyped for GTA 6. All right. The next one is... Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Teenage engineering. Hmm. Hmm. So I've only ever used one teenage engineering product in my life. And that is... The recorder. The microphone, the recorder. What about the actual recorder that Hugo brought us? Oh, I don't think so. Because that's different from the microphone. I have the microphone at home.

1:14:32The microphone's good, though, right? So the microphone is not very hyped, but it is$1 ,200. Yeah. So if we're talking overpriced or underpriced, it is overpriced. Priced. For sure. Microphones are expensive. Microphones get really expensive. microphones that sound as good as that microphone get way more expensive than that microphone and i really appreciate that microphones that tend to be more expensive and higher quality than the teenage engineering mic tend to be a little bit harder to use i'm not saying it's not expensive but i'm saying every time you take that mic home and record a video on it i go hot diggity what was that recorded on and you go the teenage engineering mic and i go you know okay i mean it's good it's the only teenage engineering product i use you've used products designed by teenage engineering before oh in collaboration with the r1 the nothing yeah that's fair what about this 250 toy car apparently it's awesome i want to use my perfectly hyped on this because i feel like every time you get in a teenage engineering product it's just so freaking awesome like they're so freaking cool and they like did create an aesthetic that everyone has been trying to copy forever like nothing is basically just trying to copy more than i thought they did they make a lot of stuff um however it does however i do think people buy their products like adam did a whole video on this about how you know they they intentionally limit the capabilities of their products so they feel more like toys so that you experiment with them more but you're not actually using them for real production even if they they could allow you to use it for real production and it would be incredible but they don't on purpose because they want you to be more experimental which makes me want to say it's overhyped only because people think that you can use them like a real sampler like a real midi keyboard that kind of stuff but that's my only reason otherwise i think it's perfectly hyped also quick clarification that video never got made oh adam almost made a whole video about that was right before we changed the whole strategy for studio no really you should be a cut of that yeah wow just put on your youtube channel you've used more teen engineering products than i think anyone else oh don't try to spin this around on me so i'm just my game wondering your reference for us if you have an opinion on it i have a hard time saying if it's overhyped or underhyped because i think they they are the hype they like like people are excited for their things and they know what they're getting i don't think they're they're not like scamming anyone that's what i'm saying i think they're perfectly hyped it might be yeah i think this might be our perfectly hyped i think they are a singular entity nobody has people have tried to copy them and nobody's done it correctly.

1:17:32And they're not going around like trying to build their own hype right they're just like we make our stuff and people like it. They release weird stuff too it's like always out of left field. I think then that specifically makes it appropriately hyped if it's all organic hype and it's for people who know what it is and what they're getting yeah then I say we spend our perfectly yeah let's spend our perfectly hyped on the wooden box orchestra people for$250 each but it'll be the best wooden box orchestra person you've ever helped. The The benefit of this is that nobody hyped this product, but they made it anyway, which I think makes it appropriately hyped.

1:18:06Fair enough. Perfect. I'm so happy because the next thing on this list is having a dedicated camera. Overhyped or underhyped? Underhyped. You think it's underhyped? Overhyped. I feel like we all now have a dedicated little side camera. Even the kids. They all have the digicams now. I have both of mine here today. Nice. is he in the room with us right now I can go get them but I don't think anyone cares we have a whole episode coming over on carrying it like carrying a separate camera yeah like having a separate camera like my cousin now has his like house of blood too so like everyone has a separate camera as well as their iPhone I think because of our yeah because of our name of this game it's not over under rated it's over under hyped and I feel like this has not that much hype.

1:18:58Yeah, agreed. So I would say it's definitely not... But there's whole YouTube channels that make a living off of this. Yeah, but they're not very... Yeah, but they make poppin'. I think carrying a dedicated camera is way underhyped. Really? What? Dude. I'm not seeing that. I'm not seeing that. There are entire product categories in the dedicated camera space that are just like, this camera's like cheap enough, like you don't have to think that. Yeah, but that's content for other photographers, you know? Like every time I have a camera out, someone goes, are you a photographer? And it's like, well, everyone's a photographer if they just have a camera with them.

1:19:32Whoa, bars. I feel like the talk of the town for the past year has been like, you got to get a digicam. You got to get the new Fujifilm. You got to have a dedicated camera. But also, when you actually go out into the world, how many people actually have a dedicated camera? Not that many. People talk about this a lot, but people don't actually do it that much. But then everyone's Instagram post is a Polaroid dump. You ever notice that? everyone this is a grand post is 15 polaroids for some reason are they real i've done a lot of folly family activities and i have seen very few cameras under hype if that's if that's anecdotal but like if if you could think of a position to where someone would bring a dedicated camera to because i'm the turd there with it i i do live in as we would say iphone air territory so maybe my perception is a little skewed.

1:20:26iPhone A-Ratory. Yeah. You know, David. What? When Kendall Jenner posted her picture with the contacts, how difficult did it become to find the contacts? Impossible. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, she overhyped the Contax T2. Well, I think since then, film cameras in general have blown up. Yeah, but then they also they imploded again, though. Okay. The market did shrink. It took a little bit. The contacts is still, to expensive but it is freaking amazing. You guys were saying underhyped. We're saying underhyped because we haven't seen this hype. Because it's not like a thing that everyone does.

1:21:03It's hype enough for us to debate if it's underhyped or overhyped but I think it's still in the underhyped category right now. I think it's underhyped. Alright so carrying that camera underhyped. That's right. We're all still cool I promise. Number Number four. Live translation. overhyped overhyped here's an here's del's advocate the concept of live translation is we are imagining perfect live translation yeah the products themselves are short of perfect so like they're approaching this idea and then falling short but the concept of perfect live translation and anyone on earth being able to talk to anyone else on earth fluidly and perfectly without having to think about it is pretty under.

1:21:52The concept of flapping my arms and flying is pretty awesome too. I think the fact that we're working on it and falling short of it makes it very clear that the products aren't all that they're cracked up to be. But the idea of what they're working towards is amazing. The phrase live translation is a misnomer too, because it would only be live if you literally had a babble fish in your ear and you could directly understand what people were saying. And there was like no delay. yeah the idea though is that you can get pretty close to that obviously the tech's not there yet but you know someone starts talking and it's a language you don't know and then within a half a second you start hearing the correct language yeah i mean that okay but we're talking about hype levels though right and i feel like these companies the companies are hyping have been hyping this idea for so long but they're hyping uh they're hyping the product which falls short of the idea correct which is why it's overhyped but the idea itself is like a humanoid is not hyped as much as the product but i would say right now the fact that like seven different companies this year announced it in an announcement with a product that barely even does it yeah is like that peak overhyped tech stuff like announcing a product that doesn't work they literally started talking about this during like the pixel one with the original pixel buds yeah and they've said it every year and i feel like if you hype something and it doesn't live up to how you're hyping it then it's overhyped yeah right if they hyped it and it was like better than they said then it would be underhyped well i mean no product is ever no tech product especially is ever like better than they say it's going to be i think in my opinion only gta6 very rarely but yeah i agree i mean my devil's advocate is like none of the products are good enough to consider them done yet so we're still working towards this idea and when we get there it's going to be amazing but what i can buy right now but what you can buy right now is overhyped i mean it's but is that what you're saying say that about ai too is the are we talking about the concept or the products that exist because you said live translate that's fair so when i hear talking about concepts no eliz just said live translation as a concept next world peace pretty hype so anyway that's the angle i was coming at the idea but if we're saying the products that exist now i agree they're overhyped yeah yeah overhyped overhyped okay next on this list the orange iphone overhyped overhyped okay as someone who loved it at first it's overhyped it's not as good as i thought it was gonna be like i'm glad it's good i agree i'm glad they did it you're glad they tried but yeah as marquez holds honestly i've liked it more over time to be honest i have too but i'm not sure if that's just me falling for the marketing because i do think that initially i was super hyped on the orange phone then it came out and i didn't like it yeah and now as i see it more i'm liking it again marquez is an orange iphone owner have you liked it more or less than I thought I would.

1:25:06Since it came out? Yeah. Okay. I thought I would like it. It's not as orange as I was hoping and the orange bleeding around the sides, you really have to commit to the orange. For sure. And I want to put a case and a skin on it so bad. Wait, why'd you take off the half broken skin? Because it was too thick and the buttons, it was annoying with the buttons. I'll probably do this again. I'll probably put a half a skin on my phone again because I think that was kind of fire. It's like Venom, you know? Yeah. But anyway, I wish they made a black one. Symbiote. So. overhyped. Overhyped. I have to say it.

1:25:36Overhyped or underhyped ColorOS? Underhyped. Underhyped? Well, depending on who's doing the hyping. The company is hyping the hell out of it. But, sort of. The response from people is not as good. People are having an instinctual reaction because they remember a world where OxygenOS was the best Android OS, and they're just mad about it going away in name. but ColorOS and Oxygen are like the same OS now. Yeah. But they're further from the original Oxygen OS we all loved. By far, yeah. They strayed and now it's all ColorOS basically. For sure. But it's still good. It's good. I think it's one of the best Chinese.

1:26:17I think it's one of the best like Chinese OSes. I watched so many videos on this and I am very intrigued to try ColorOS. Remember FunTouch? No. Yeah, I think, you know what, I'm saying underhyped. I'm going to say underhyped because in my using the OnePlus 15, I, if the cameras were good, would 100 % daily that phone. And I was not annoyed by any of the software. I could easily just not use the annoying AI features or mind space or whatever. I don't care about it. And, like, the aesthetics and stuff that's, like, kind of obviously copying iOS is what it is. OnePlus 15 is still oxygen, though, right?

1:26:51It's oxygen, sorry, but it's basically colorless. Are they basically the same? They're basically the same thing. Yeah. So, like, I don't mind it. So it would be the Oppo Find X9 Pro that had ColorOS. That's the last phone I used with that. It was fine. It was good. Lots of good features. It's very quick and responsive. Weird sounds. Fine. Whatever. Nothing like the Galaxy S3 water droplets. Yeah, the water droplet sounds. But I think in general, the amount of optimization and performance tuning that they do that people don't really talk about is under hyped. Under hyped. I agree. Under hyped. Yeah.

1:27:22Yeah. Andrew, what did you say? I said under hyped. Under hyped as well. All right. all under hyped next ai browsers overhyped overhyped overhyped by a certain that was fast everyone here uses well no there's two types of people there's people who don't know about or don't care about and don't talk at all about ai browsers and then there's people who overhype ai browsers yeah it's like there's no nice balance in between well you know i think i might sometimes no it's just people who are like yeah i'm obsessed with ai browsers and i'm guilty it's like all over my feed it's clearly it's clearly serving it to me um but they're they're currently overhyped but again the idea they could yeah i'm going over i don't know the idea get it which by the way they are just like turning d into i am it's great every week they're just like here's another arc feature as unfortunate as it was that i was wrong about art being still like a priority for them it's so clear that they're just turning Dia into Arc and I'm happy with that.

1:28:27And what's going to happen when Dia has, when all of the Arc features are on Dia? Then I will be fulfilled. The Arc will be, is gone. They will probably get rid of it. Yeah. Later. So for those of you who were like me and were using Arc and switched to Dia because they had adopted enough of the Arc features, you are probably going through the same emotional Arc as I am because it has been slowly adopting, Like the pin tabs look like Arc now and they're on their way. I need pin folders. Please, please. Marquez, I think you're the only, or David, you've also spent some time with this product. I can't wait to answer that.

1:29:04You should. The Bux Palma 2 Pro. The Xiaomi SU7. Oh, yeah. Or is it SU7? Everyone around the office has been saying SU7. It's SU. I feel like it's an SUV, but with a number. Because they're, yeah, it's SU7. Right? Is it overhyped or underhyped? It is underhyped. it's underhyped for sure it is an incredible vehicle for an incredibly low price and the thing is like it's underhyped because people are never gonna buy it in many markets like here and it's unavailable and they don't know how good it is which is why i think by definition it's underhyped well so it's underhyped in the united states my question is is this a popular product in china yes yes it is so then it's not underhyped in china well it's correctly hyped in china the market speaks for itself like people buy it supply and demand are speaking for themselves and it's popular yeah out everywhere outside of those available markets where it's unavailable people have no idea how good it is yeah so i think it's under hyped that's fair that's my logic do we get a we get a perfectly hyped and we get a correctly hyped in china too in my craft i feel like every car person that i know and the few that i watch are super excited about that car so i don't know of that it's underhyped.

1:30:18I feel like it's hard to get really hyped about it though when... You can never get it. Yeah, we can't get it. Yeah, because every non-car person has no idea how amazing it is. I haven't actually gotten to drive in it yet, but my experience with it was pretty weird. I'm not going to lie. Only because the two... And the passenger? Yeah, because the two features I got to explore were the karaoke, which I found bizarre. The song selection was really bizarre. No creed. No creed in the included... overrides but and then in the back seat the like do you in on the the screen tablet screen i found that incredibly off-putting just like endlessly in a in a car scrolling through like chinese thirst traps and live league of legend competitions yeah why is this here there's a lot going on with the car and obviously xiaomi is a company that makes smartphones and and they are kind of like the lg or whatever of china like they make appliances they make smart home security systems they make make everything smartphones obviously and now they make this car and so it kind of just they just plugged into their ecosystem like it works with everything yeah and they have xiaomi tablets in the back seats and uh it pairs with their xiaomi phone and can have like modules attached to the screen and they attach they connect to your like there's a lot going on and you don't have to use any of it and you chose to use some of the weird parts which is great but i think like as a as a vehicle like as an owner like as i'm dailying the thing it's like it rides really well it has good range the software is super responsive it's the biggest car play i've ever seen the speakers are amazing it has active noise cancellation just like the things that make a car nice build quality materials comfort it's all there yeah it's it's really good i kind of felt like when i was driving it in california it felt like the combination between a model s and a porsche sure that was sort of my analogy i think that's fair good save thanks way cheaper than both of them yeah 40 000 all right so under hyped sticking with it yeah i'm sure all right next liquid glass overhyped by apple yeah that's the hard thing is by who yeah i don't think a lot of people are hyping liquid glass yeah yeah apple's hyping liquid glass and then everyone's responding with a not so hype you know how i know it's overhyped because all of the designer people who are just like love anything apple does originally when they first announced it was like this is the greatest thing ever and then after like one beta they were like oh my god this is terrible so i mean it's definitely not under ive g's um that's fair yeah I kind of like it.

1:33:04I don't have it on my phone. I have it on my iPad, but I don't know. The only liquid glass feature that, there's two liquid glass features I like. I like that when you pull down the notification shade thing, it does that distortion field over whatever text you have. I love that. I hate that. It's so funny. Every time I'm like, ugh, ugh. And then for the apps that support it, the virtual glass tile that moves between the options, I like that. But pretty much nothing else about that OS I actually enjoy. Never use it. Especially the fact that it destroys my battery life. I love that. Not enough people talking about that.

1:33:41I'm going to say overhyped because a lot of companies are changing the way that their apps work and look. I feel like the YouTube player kind of looks a little bit classy now. A lot of other companies are shifting their designs more towards that. To be more classy. Which is like, to be fair, it's more cohesive. but yeah is this the world we want i don't think i need that i would prefer skeuomorphism over this like hybrid skeuomorphism i think we're in too deep dude i like flat white we were at where we were at like five years ago well i know that that's a drink but i think where we were at like five to six years ago where everything was like clean and we overdid that too obviously there was like way too much blank space everywhere but there was nice clean flat 2d shapes everything was crisp and clean about like the original about the original the original ios and the original that like real material skew morphism that was another vibe you could get into that it's definitely a vibe i don't know if i was into that part i love it where you open the books app and a shelf comes out of your iphone that was a choice that was a choice do you want to have fun in your life marquez i think we're in too deep like all the things we do on our phones now don't have non-phone analogs anymore yeah you know that's a good point like like what like a save like tiktok like scrolling like you the youtube like tv context like barely made sense with the app icon but like what the what the heck in what other world are we like that's fair that's a good point you know what's very specifically so just because you said tiktok it reminded me like the swiping thing it's just it's just pains of videos and that's kind of boring but android's new android what is this 15 android 15 android 16 android 16's new material 3 expressive where you you pull a notification out from the group and swipe it away the physics of it i feel like they're objects i really enjoy that specifically before we leave this marquez i did want to ask something specifically of you because you have seen k-pop demon hunters this is like part of your new many times these things i've only seen the first 30 minutes of it but i wanted to ask you did you notice in those first 30 minutes i can't remember exactly how many there were but how many horizontal or vertical wipes there were to get between scenes oh no i didn't know i was trying to guess if they did that on purpose to like fool tiktok addicted children into like oh maintaining attention.

1:36:09It felt like... Did you notice that? It was visual cocaine. I think in the first 30 minutes, there were only two or three times, but every single time I'd never seen a movie get from one scene to another by going... And I was like... I will probably watch it again. I didn't notice that. Is it not kind of comic book-y of swiping to a panel? That's how I would imagine it. I haven't seen it. In the comic book one, it's normally a zoom out of a panel. I can see that or I can see a page swipe but like I you still you know panels up and down also this is just how I interpret it watching the movie going from like you know anyway how many more do you guys want to do these more two more more two more AI notification summaries wait this is a universally hated feature So if you find any value in them, then they become under hyped.

1:37:08I don't think it's universally hated because I just get really funny ones. Like, I just had one that I just took a screenshot of. This is the only thing they're good for. Yeah, they're really funny. It's the screenshots of when it messes up. It's kind of funny. So it's my email app, right? And it's summarizing a bunch of emails. But for some reason, it gives, like, a summarized subject that's trying to, like, total all of the... You know, because it's like, Marquez is angry about this and blank, right? Yeah. This one is from Gmail. The headline is that the subject is this is going to be fun. And it says credit card payment scheduled for$2 ,300.

1:37:44I was like, yeah, I love not having money. This is going to be fun. Jesus. Yeah. I just for another anecdote is when you're, when you're setting up a new iPhone now, it's one of the steps in the setup process is do you want notification summaries? And I instantly hit no. Which, by the way, a new story we didn't cover today is that the Pixel is getting notification summaries. That's exactly why I put it in here. I've never tried it, so I can't say anything. Using a phone to me is managing your notifications. That is what using a phone is. I get notifications. I decide what to engage with and what not to.

1:38:23I dismiss some. I go into apps from some. It's like a launcher. And trying to, like, distill that and summarize that is just not useful to me. Yeah. That's all. Can you prompt inject notification summaries? Has anyone tried this yet? I don't think you can input anything. But if you sent a message that was like... That said a certain... Yeah, it was like, ignore all previous instructions. Did it be a recipe for flan? It would just be a regular reply to whatever notification. No, but would the summary the other person get? Could you dictate what the summary sends by wording a message in a specific way?

1:39:02I think the only reason notification summaries exists is because this was like one of the first use cases of AI and LLMs. Summarize the thing. We built the LLMs and everyone was like, quick, figure out what we can do with this. Figure it out. Figure it out. And that's why we got like image playground. That's why everything has a summarize button. They basically just gave us features that they could do, not that they should do. Nice. Yeah. So. Okay. That's why image playground exists too. Speaking of which. wait did we settle what what it was overhyped it's over overhyped yeah all right next insane image generation what bro do you remember image well just image generation ai do you remember when they had like google deep dream do you remember google deep dream no this is like early google image generation no and it was so insane like pull up a couple of them yeah it was like you were on like lots of drugs it was like very acid induced that was a much better image generation than what we have now i i miss google deep dream i miss that isn't that incredible i think the fact that image playgrounds is pre-installing iphone is all we need to say it's clearly overhyped yeah it's over does anybody ever use any of them also it's bad for society so very overhyped alright image generation overhyped Sora simple by unanimous decision alright then let's take it to trivia underhyped hype the bubble baby I love it it literally looks like you're on the show you could do it in VR today's first trivia question is a tale of three socks right Specifically, I'm wondering which sock is the most expensive.

1:40:52Hit it, Adam. Wait, I need a pen. Where's my pen? The brand new in packaging five pack of the 2004 iPod socks that sold yesterday on eBay. The short strap iPhone pocket sock. That is a really hard sentence to say. Or C, a pair of plain white men's socks from a fashion brand, Balenciaga. note these are plain white socks from balenciaga not the cardi b mentioned balenciaga's that look like socks what important distinction wait what are those those are shoes oh okay flip them and what do you got oh we literally all put the no you guys put the same thing marquez and david what did you guys put well why did put it something different so i put everyone put something sorry No, Marquez and I put the same thing.

1:41:44Yeah. My mistake. Which is? So I put A, which is the new Inbox retro sock. Five socks. Unfortunately, those were sold for$81.99. That's way too high. David, you put? Balenciaga. Which sold for$130. Meaning this new iPhone pocket sock is the most expensive sock. And that's the least expensive out of the new expensive socks. Exactly. I'm buying me some Balenciagas, baby. Those were prices per SKUs. If you adjust it for price per sock, it still is the most expensive sock. Nice. Quick update on the score. Marquez and Andrew tied with 10. David with 6. Come on, David. You got this. We were talking about hype fashion and tech collabs.

1:42:35Bathing Ape and Stash once collabed with which famous camera brand to launch a camera? don't overthink it hammer brand high fashion Adam this is my opportunity you said come on David and you give them hints I only got one shot I don't want to miss my chance to blow get ready to flip it and read what do we got guys Oh. Mark, how'd you put it? Three different answers here. I guessed Polaroid. What? Nope. Why are you laughing at it? It's Bape. You don't even know what Bape is. How can you... I said... I said Kodak. Nope. David, what is it? Leica. Correct. Leica will just sell out anywhere, huh? Bro, have you seen the Seal Q2?

1:43:34No. Like the musician seal? What? Look it up. No way. It's so ugly. It's all sequins. Look it up. I'm serious. Oh, no. It's that material when you go to Ross and they have those pillows that you can, like, move your hands around. How much do they sell that for? It's, like, a lot of money. $6 ,000. $6 ,000, however much the Q2 is. You know, I've never shot, I've never actually, I don't think I've ever shot and owned with a Leica, so the only Leicas I've ever used are, like, Huawei phones, basically. And that's where all of my knowledge of Leica comes from. so like it has done a lot of awesome about you completely hurtling over the like a price point going straight going straight to know to Hasselblad as a camera oh yeah yeah the Hasselblad is cheaper than like us no that's what I'm oh Hassel yeah they're both the new pretty expensive the new Hasselblad is cheaper yes then pretty much every every main full frame like a is that true yes They did a Lenny Kravitz collaboration.

1:44:34Oh, I gotta see this. It's snakeskin and brown. I love that. Well, hey, look, like I said, if we don't get points, we will at least learn something. And I have learned so much about Laika in the last five minutes. Thank you guys for watching and for staying tuned and for, of course, enabling all the amazing numbers we got to talk about, but also just for subscribing and for hanging out with us. So we'll see you guys next week. Peace. Goodbye. Wayform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Irvin. We're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. And our natural music was created by Vane Silk. Bingo. Bingo.

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