Thoughts on the Pixel 9 Pro Fold!

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1:29Hello, people of the internet. Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. This joke is getting tired because I'm actually David. Marquez is still in Australia. He's winning constantly. As far as I know, they're undefeated. I think they've played... Japan's a really tough team. I don't think they've played some of the harder teams. I think Australia's going to be really tough. They're generally pretty good. so I think they are probably getting into bracket play pretty soon. Okay, what is bracket play? Like the way it's going to work is since it's a tournament, they'll do pool play where they basically seed all the teams.

2:04They throw the frisbee in the pool. In the pool, first person to get it wins. Okay, so it's like water polo. They'll take like 16 teams and split it up into groups of four and those are pools. Those pools play against each other and then create the seeding for the elimination bracket. Got it. So they're definitely in elimination bracket right now. Okay, I felt really stupid because Marquez has consistently been posting the match scores on his Instagram stories. And every single time they keep getting 15 points. So I messaged him and I was like, why do you guys keep getting 15 points? And he was like, David, it's first to 15 points wins.

2:39And I was like, oh. As a former Ultimate player. Apparently that's how it works. You are not stupid because Ultimate is the most confusing sport possible because we cannot keep what we want to do. And it's not always just to 15. There's a weird time limit where if you don't make it, then it'll be like plus two or plus one to that. So anyways, you're not dumb. He tried to give me an analogy. He was like, just like in ping pong, how you play to 21, you play to 15 in ultimate. Fair. I guess that's kind of similar. How many points is a touchdown worth in ultimate? One. One. Every point is worth one in ultimate.

3:12And it is called a touchdown. A point, a score. Yeah, a score. Okay, so it's not called a touchdown. No, it's called probably anything but a touchdown. Yeah. You should go look. But it is an end zone. Correct. There is an end zone. Yeah. All right. I think we can get, okay, how, where, when do I get a home run? All right. And that's the end of trivia for today. Today's episode, we have early Pixel Fold thoughts, Blue Sky users surging. Yeah. We'll find out why. AI is starting to already mess up Google search. And then I kind of want to talk about this new game called Deadlock that I'm obsessed with.

3:46I'm super down to talk to you about it. You'll be interested in. Yeah. But first, last week we didn't have time for this, but there was this Verge article about swappable prime lenses. Right. And I didn't know how to think about it. And I assumed you'd have some thoughts. I don't know if they're good or bad thoughts, but I'd like to hear your thoughts. David, please teach us. Okay. So the way a lens works is you have the internal part of the lens, which has all of these things called lens elements. and effectively there's multiple elements of the lens that focus the light because depending on the aperture the focal length of the lens and the type of lens that you make you have to focus the light to make an image circle on the sensor right so sam yang has apparently come out with this singular lens that you keep mounted to your camera you just swap out the lens elements instead of swapping out the entire lens.

4:41The point of this, they say, is to save weight and now you only have to bring basically the center part of your lens with you instead of the whole lens, which makes a lot of sense. I feel like based off what you just said, my initial thought was, sounds cool, weight, it feels like you're just swapping lenses anyways. But then like, okay, because the exterior part of it is the bulkier aspect. If you can just carry the small parts, that does sound nice lenses yeah a lot of times sorry i interrupted but like lenses when you're like walking or like bringing a bag those are the things that add up in weight when you want to bring multiple especially when you're doing prime lenses oh yeah a bunch of them yeah i brought a bunch of lenses with me to glacier national park this weekend and my back was in pain um so it's an it's an interesting idea i think that the awkward thing about it is it significantly limits the type of lens design that you can have.

5:36Okay. Because if you want, like, there's this legendary line of Nikon lenses called the Noct lenses that are, like, 0.95 aperture. Okay. And they're huge. They're, like, massive, massive. Canon also makes a 28-70 f2, or a 24-70 f2, one of the two. I think it's 28-70 f2. It's also massive. And the reason that is is because you need a lot of glass to be able to focus that much light and produce like that many stops of light on a lens so having the body of the lens fixed really does like pretty significantly limit what you can do with it um however they might be able to make the interior parts longer or shorter so i don't know it's interesting i i think that you're kind of locking yourself into that ecosystem for sure but at the same time at least initially they're only offering three and they're not actually that different there's a 21 millimeter a 28 millimeter and a 32 millimeter which again um you know they're not super different in focal length yeah it's like not enough to be like super excited about getting this and locking into that when if you want something tighter and you want to go up to like a 50 which feels like a significant jump or like you know a normal jump from 28 to 50 this doesn't even have it so you're just bringing that lens that's where you're starting to see the limitations of these is that the longer focal lengths you get generally you have to make the lens longer because you have to put more elements in yeah because there has to be a longer distance between the focal center of the the optical center of the lens and the focal plane which is the sensor so anyway my overall take on this is they're pretty affordable um apparently it's going to be around 229 dollars for the main lens mount with the 32 millimeter insert and i'm not sure what they're going to be shipping the other adapters for inserts for you yeah i also don't know about the quality um they are 2.8 3.5 and 3.5 respectively which is like not the fastest but for a walk around lens i think the 21 millimeter 2.8 could be cool i like 28 millimeters but anyway it's an interesting idea I'm glad that people are innovating in the lens space in general.

7:51So, and it's kind of cool that you don't have to carry around these giant lenses. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Cool. I just wanted your take on it. Now, can you explain why Blue Sky gains 2 million users over the weekend? Is that like double their users? I'm not sure, but it is a lot. It's a significant chunk. Yeah, they gained. So for those that don't know, Blue Sky is an alternative to Twitter. Looks exactly like Twitter. and if you want to learn more about blue sky we just this is actually very incredibly good timing because we just published a special episode about blue sky and threads uh which you should go watch it's called protocol wars uh at blue sky versus threads something like that and blue sky is this alternative to twitter that was sort of incubated inside of twitter but over the weekend they gained a ton of users because brazil has officially banned x slash twitter yeah i haven't gotten to read into this yet on why this is happening yeah this happened pretty much exactly why you probably think it happened in that uh elon got mad at some judge and then you know didn't comply with what they wanted him to do and then he they abandoned it says they had uh fees or fines that they had to pay yeah so effectively what happened is like way back in april this judge in brazil told x that it needed to suspend suspend certain accounts for spreading disinformation um elon said no we're not going to do that and then he also proceeded to mock the judge a lot which um works out really well for you generally yep uh and then it works out really well for you and then x closed its brazilian office uh in august because x said that its legal representative was threatened with arrest if she did not comply with uh the rules that were set by this judge and then the judge basically said Google and Apple have five days to take X off the app store and block use on their platforms this ban is now effective until X names a new legal representative in Brazil which they are probably not going to do okay uh and they also now have to pay a bunch of fines that it that they owe to Brazil because of all of these infringements that they have made then it got worse like it always does uh because Starlink said that they're not going to ban X on users that are using Starlink in Brazil.

10:10Which is a surprising amount of people. I saw somewhere it was like over 100 ,000 or 200 ,000 people have Starlinks. Dude, you know what's crazy? When I was in Glacier this weekend, they have no service at all. No, I remember that. And I went to a few of the different ranger stations because I locked my keys in my car and had to hitchhike about five miles. Hold on. I don't want to derail the pod that much, but when you came in this morning, I immediately was like, Glacier's beautiful, isn't it? you were telling me about these awesome hikes you did and everything you skipped that part of the story completely yeah i don't know how modern cars allow this to happen anymore but like i i closed my door in the the microsecond my door closed it's the worst feeling i had my my stomach just exploded i saw my keys sitting on my seat and all the doors had just auto locked uh anyway the point is i i hitchhiked to a ranger station at the top of this mountain and the ranger station had a had starlink okay yeah i can't like places like that are where it makes the most sense right yeah right and i'm brazil is gigantic right and i'm sure there's lots of rural places where it makes a ton of sense yeah and for those that don't know brazil is actually has traditionally been very very very active on twitter they make up like a lot of the fan and stan accounts that like really have uh social culture moving i know i mean this is a niche aspect of it but the brazilian valorant fans are wild really i mean like they support their their teams a lot yeah and there's a lot of people on twitter supporting those teams and when i used to watch valorant a lot brazil big yeah they have 215 million people and reportedly 10 of the entire country used twitter okay which is crazy yeah um so starlink said they weren't going to comply and then brazil froze starlink's bank accounts okay so then they did comply um so anyway regardless it is pretty much indefinitely banned in brazil and so everyone decided to move over to blue sky and i was looking into why they chose blue sky instead of threads and apparently mostly just people just didn't want to join another meta platform fair which totally makes sense and also blue sky if you haven't used it basically is formatted exactly like twitter used to look before it got switched over to x like it's it's pretty much exactly the same so blue sky over the weekend gained two million users which is uh about 10 of brazil's population because 10 would be 2.5 million yeah which is crazy yeah which is crazy it said the significant growth brings platform's total user count to 8.4 million so that's 20 20 plus percent over a weekend which is nuts that's crazy yeah and blue sky is cool like there's a lot of really interesting features of blue sky there's custom feeds there's like these starter packs that you can um basically like if your friends have a certain amount of people wait what is a starter pack on social media.

13:17A starter pack on blue sky is basically like if you are a person who's into these categories or the people that I'm following the accounts that I'm following the feeds that I am using I can just copy that over to your account. So like if I wanted to like look at pictures of moss. Yeah yeah there's there's different there's custom feeds on blue sky so you can like you can go to the you know for you feed or whatever but there's also a following feed there's also custom feeds where people can curate their own sort of lists and then you can have these lists as these custom feeds there's custom moderation um so yeah i think that a lot of people just like wanted to move over there and it's really funny because i was using blue sky a lot over the weekend and like half the posts were in portuguese so to all you portuguese uh brazilian blue sky users out there hello welcome yeah you own blue sky now i think pretty much yeah it was definitely a huge jump for the platform um and it's good to have more users because like we talked about on the special episode the social graph problem is kind of the biggest problem and so just getting more people on there especially people that contribute so much to culture yeah i think is very important so it might make people actually want to go over and download it funny enough i got a lot of people posting at me skying well skying at me i guess yeah don't i can't say that on the podcast but uh saying that they downloaded Blue Sky because of the episode, which is very funny because most of it was about Activity Pub.

14:46Yeah, and most of us were saying, wow, it feels like Activity Pub and Threads is really doing way better than Blue Sky. Yeah, yeah. But hey, a lot of people seem to be interested in it. So that's fun. So if you want to check out Blue Sky, go hang out with all the Brazilians. Sweet. All right, I have one more quick thing before we do trivia. And it's just because I want to talk about MySpace. Okay. but Instagram is now allowing you to add a song to your Instagram profile just like MySpace used to be yeah amazing but this time it doesn't it doesn't autoplay it doesn't autoplay which is good yeah I do wish they brought in top eight so we could all argue with our friends all the time is that like your top eight friends yeah so MySpace used to have a thing where on your page it had your profile picture it had like a bio it had the song that would play and then it would have you curated the eight friends that would show on the top and the amount of fights and arguments that that started the drama juicy i was peak i would just not put anyone it's just like i couldn't just make eight of your own accounts and make all of them so it didn't populate that um but yeah i mostly wanted to play this because i want everyone to say what song they would add to their instagram profile what song i would add because there's already a song that i add okay what song did you what song did you add uh cruising by childish scambino off the new album because it's awesome and i can't get it out of my head there's a new album is it good yeah it's really good i thought he was getting rid of the childish scambino name no no this was his last album oh okay ellis what about you uh i was just thinking about it um i think i'd have to go with this song

16:25but that's just me i i like it man i wish it would autoplay can we put that on the podcast Yeah, we could also put this on the podcast.

16:40I'd like to see him stop me. I would love looking at Ellis's pictures to that music. I was like, what the f*** did you think I was talking about? I was like, you can't see that. You know, I hate autoplay videos, but honestly, I would be kind of down for this autoplay music. I would be down. Yeah. And how does it, so how does it work? Is it a Spotify link? I'll show you through mine. No, so I believe, I was trying to figure this out, Meta has their own library through some different, probably for like reels and stuff. Publishers, yeah. Yeah, and so you just have to find something in there. It's already, it's a library you just search through when you go and add a song.

17:16It's in like edit profile song choice. Interesting. And then you pick through that, and then it just comes up as, which I don't think people are gonna really see, but there's just this little play icon underneath it. So this is mine.

17:43I love that you can play it. Can someone please explain that for the audience? There's a Dr. Pepper AI song that's actually really, really good. The chorus is Song of the Summer. Oh, dude. You know, their article came out a week or two ago that AI has had zero economic impact. That song is proof that the cultural impact, let alone the economic impact of the Dr. Pepper song. Yeah. So seeing the way that it works on Android's phone, I like that you can just play it directly from the profile and it doesn't have to open up a separate link. Yeah, agreed. That is very cool. It is super small to the point where hitting the play button is actually kind of hard.

18:24Oh, really? Like I've missed the play button. They probably did that on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. You have to really want to listen to the song. Yeah. I feel like there could be a middle ground. Yeah. I also think you should be able to name it something. Like mine says asking AI to make a hit country song about Dr. Pepper. Like that's too long. I just want it to be like Andrew's favorite song or like, let me name it something. Let me name it song of the summer. And people are like, I wonder what that is. It would be nice if it was mysterious. Yeah. Yeah. People would want to click it then. My theory is that they're trying to make Instagram into more of a dating app.

18:57That's a good theory, to be fair. They did launch this in collaboration with Sabrina Carpenter in a new song. So I think that was kind of the way they marketed this as adding it onto there. But yeah, I think it's a 30-second portion it clips out of, but you still need to name yours. That's not the whole song? No. Mine is Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind. What? No way. I would have never guessed. Wait, wait, wait. But does it start straight at do-do-do-do-do-do-do, or are you into the chorus already? I think it's got to start at the beginning. Or do-do-do-do-do-do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because that's important.

19:32It's just that replaying for 30 seconds. It's just do-do-do. Unfortunately, on most streamers, when you play that song, the radio station that plays afterwards is bangersonly.net. So it's a bummer that there isn't an auto radio that plays immediately after you play it. But I do need people to know more about this song, which I actually watched a documentary about this song last night. Do you need more people to know about that song? I feel like that is, if you lived at any millisecond in the 90s, you've heard that song. I just want to take a second to talk about a little bit of Third Eye Blind trivia.

20:09Okay. Okay. Did you know? Okay, so there is this ranch that Ellis will know a lot about called Skywalker Ranch in California. Basically, George Lucas created this ranch for like just doing insane like video effects and sound design and i've been invited to a few screenings at skywalker ranch because they screened some movies there specifically the new star wars movies when they came out they invited me to go see them there apparently third eye blind had like no money right because they were just a local band in san francisco they knew about skywalker ranch they knew it was insanely expensive and they didn't think that that many people rented it out so one day they just showed up and set up and started recording their album and they recorded like most of the album over 10 days at skywalker ranch without asking anyone permission and then left and like that's how they recorded their debut a lot of their debut album is so like the studios there are called uh skywalker sound and it's a huge deal in the audio world and just like the the trivia fact that everyone loves to cite is that every year since 1977 a sound guy or remixer or like some audio person has either been nominated or won an academy award every year since 1977 it's like it's like ludicrous the work they do there yeah we should record the podcast there yeah that would be record waveform we should just show up and record a waveform there and then leave i'm sure they've tightened down securities well yeah apparently uh after the album came out and got really big they went back and like told the person at the front desk that they did it and the person was like yeah i mean i don't know as long as you record your next album here then all is forgiven i guess that's awesome which is cool so anyway so yeah that's the new instagram feature cool tell us what your song of the summer or song of your Instagram is going to be in the comments.

22:13I just want them to let us edit the HTML of the Instagram page just like we used to do with MySpace. When I was in 6th grade I coded my own website in 6th grade because it was part of this class I was taking and it was basically just taking random cat images from the internet and making them the wallpaper and then playing Weird Al Yankovic in the background over and over again. The same song. Does this still exist? The song Hardware Store by Weird Al Yankovic. I feel like that's like a project you can currently have. I highly doubt it exists. Was it ever like hosted on an actual DNS server? Yeah.

22:50So do you think it was archived? Possibly. I don't remember the name of the URL though, unfortunately. Yeah. It was pretty cool. Next waveform, long form. Yeah. Finding my old website from sixth grade. Anyway. All right. Well, I think we should take it to some non-Third Eye Blind trivia. Oh, and the lights work today. Marquez will never believe it. Oh, my God. All right. Well, this week, we have an audio question. Not a question about audio, but a question where I'm going to play you audio. And specifically, earlier this week, Ars Technica reported a story about this sound coming from a place it was not supposed to come from.

23:45where did that sound come from? Are we allowed to know what that sound is? They don't know what it is. They don't know what it is? They know probably why it happened, but I have not seen it reported conclusively that's what the sound is. I saw a different article recently about sound coming from something that wasn't supposed to be it. Was it the sound? No. Oh, I thought you were going to play another one. I don't want to say what it was in case that's also what this is. Oh. But I'll tell the story later. Tricky. Well, we'll have to find out at the end when we give the answers and the scores and the points.

24:21But until then... Bye. No, we'll be right back. Oh, right. Bye.

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27:17Mobile over the weekend and he got his even later I think he got his like Thursday or Friday and the embargo was Monday yeah to be fair this morning we were Tuesday sorry yesterday Oh, people are getting it yesterday? No, the embargo was Tuesday because Monday was a holiday. Because this morning, Adam and I, before you got in, were like, can we talk about this on the pod? Let's see if there's any, where's the embargo? And looked and there was like a Tom's Guide video and like one other channel and like maybe a Verge review. There's not a lot of content about it. There's not a lot of content about it because, and Google always does this.

27:49Google is the worst with this. They generally make embargoes on Mondays and give you the product on Friday. so you basically have to like rush a review over a weekend which sucks this time they gave us the the devices on wednesday or thursday and made the embargo on tuesday the day after a holiday weekend yeah which is like guys please people have lives um yeah so i've had it for a while it is in my opinion one of the best foldable phones out right now it's kind of like a oneplus open but google and pixely which is really awesome the interior screen has been significantly improved uh it's very good it's very very thin the battery life has been really good it looks very thin yeah it's really thin the battery life is really good the one thing i've been not that happy about is the cameras uh they definitely have a way too much contrast even like quite a bit worse than the pixel 9 pro and the pixel 9 can i see something yeah you have a two-hour timer running right now Yes.

28:50Oh, okay. Yeah, my car is charging. Oh, charging. Okay, sorry. I was like, is that just running? No. Okay. No. But I used it throughout the entire time at Glacier. It was very useful to have like split apps open. The kind of cool thing about the aspect ratio is it's effectively the exact same aspect ratio as two phones next to each other. So when you use it in multi-app mode, it can be really useful if you find that useful. if you're like i want to watch a youtube video and use telegram at the same time then you know then that's useful i still would really like to see a foldable that folds out into a like 16 by 9 or 21 by 9 aspect ratio which i guess the flip does yeah and you have to like use the square aspect ratio on the front instead very hard it's kind of hard to find really super useful use cases of the interior screen because watching videos chops off like you know yeah that's just not being used yeah so but for this format of foldable i think it's my favorite one that i've used so far mostly because it has all the pixel software can i say something right off the bat i haven't even held this yet here but you just mentioned how it's exactly the size of two phones yeah and we mentioned this a different one we were just talking about how they looked this whole like the hinge having this extra it's not bezel but it almost looks like a phone inside of a case this reminds me so much of the LG Velvet case that just added another screen to it I don't like that I think that looks terrible it looks weird like two phones are slotted into a hinge it does look like that and I think that is kind of strange it is strange but I've been dealing with it it is really thin overall it's quite good I think I really wish that they would add some of the features that the OnePlus Open has like being able to sort of put apps outside of the main screen and then slide them in whenever you want to and stuff like that but having all the pixel features like now playing and like call recording and all that kind of stuff a dock?

31:00yeah it does have the dock because that's built into Android now I like how the app drawer is split screen as well well it doesn't take up the whole spot I think that's kind of awesome because that's a lot of icons to go across if you're... Yeah. The interior screen is really good. It has a fingerprint reader on the power button, which is nice. I like using that. It also has face unlock, though, so that can work as well. Wait, this power button has a fingerprint reader on it? Yeah, it's built in. Yeah. I mean, it's not going to work for you. Yeah, I know. But usually they're not extruded like that if it has a fingerprint reader on it, which is kind of wild.

31:34Yeah. It's pretty good. Okay. No, this feels fantastic. This feels like a phone in a case in terms of thickness. Like I think that is one of the most usable folds that I've held. I think for a Gen 2, it's surprisingly good. For sure. The Gen 1. The camera bump is terrible still. The camera bump is really weird. It's definitely really weird. The Gen 1 I really liked because of the size, because it was shorter. And I thought that was nice. And I personally would have preferred if they just expanded on that and made the interior screen better. but overall i think for this size of foldable it's like one of the best foldables you can get especially in the u.s so yeah it's expensive again still but i think adam probably wants to gush over a little bit i've been waiting do you have questions this whole time i have so well no you answered my one main question okay but for the sake of the pod i'll reiterate them okay so you had it now for a week going on a trip to glacier arguably one of the most beautiful places in the world so how do you feel about the picture quality because i really look for good quality pictures in my next phone yeah the camera is not super good yeah unfortunately have you tried taking pictures with like raw as well uh yes and i have not tried to edit the photos yet but the video is not amazing um and the the photos that just come out the jpegs that just come out are not definitely not as good as the pixel 9 pro yeah i was seeing like people post pictures over the weekend and it's they're very contrasty there yeah it looks like it takes the pixel processing and it like jacks it up to the next level it's not it's not great do you know if there's a way to like tone that down a bit i mean you can shoot in raw that's it that's basically it or you can like tap on a shadow area to try to get a little more dynamic range to make it less contrasty it's still gonna be a little sharp and contrast around the edges but shout out to zero zero cam there's this uh app called zero cam on ios that basically does like very minimal slash no processing which really gets rid of like the phone look by the makers of halide cam right no halide is also doing a version they call process zero which i just want to point out i just want to point out i made this video essay three years ago that's exactly this and i told everyone to do this and now it's happening thank god the companies aren't doing it though it's all third parties but those are really cool apps because they basically make your smartphone camera look like a digicam like the quality is way better there's way less sharpening and all that stuff there can be more noise if it's super low light because it's not doing it's not really doing computational photography but uh i definitely recommend checking out zero cam and or process zero on halide are those both ios though they're both ios only but uh zero cam is is officially porting to android right now okay cool so it will be available on android pretty soon which is really cool nice uh next question yes how's the durability of it like so far pretty good i was not super careful with this and i had my iphone in my pocket at the same time so both the phones were sort of rubbing together all the time and i definitely have some like very minor scuffs on the screen and there's one scratch that is actually in the screen but besides that considering i was like bringing it all around glacier and like hiking you know 20 miles a day with it yeah it's held up pretty well so far again it's only been a week but uh it's it's pretty good yeah but like it's a week of like one of the most intense activities that i'll probably do right in my life so like that is the the bar uh next question you all you just finished using the pixel nine pro nine pro thank you yeah with the under display fingerprint reader now you're using the power button fingerprint reader Is it just as quick?

35:18Is it snappy? Do you feel a little different? It's pretty much just as quick. There's also face unlock. And you can use them in conjunction with each other. So both together, it's like you really don't notice. Nice. Yeah. As someone who used the fingerprint reader on the Zenfone, which is on the side, I actually grew really frustrated with the wild because when it's sitting on your desk, if you just want to unlock it really quick, it is a pain in the ass to... Yeah. When it's front screen, it's really easy. But that's super minimal. I don't like face unlock because I like looking at my lock screen sometimes.

35:53So I love just pressing my power button and seeing a couple things I have on my lock screen. So there's a setting on the Pixel where... I think I tried this and it was still annoying. Okay. Yeah, there's a setting on the Pixel where when you look at it, it will unlock your phone, but it won't automatically go to your home screen. You'll still see your notifications. It is the most minuscule thing I hate about it because sometimes I'm like, I want to look at that. And the other times when I want face unlock to work, I want it to be right into the screen. So if that makes sense, like with a fingerprint unlock, I can do that.

36:25I can just open it or I can just be straight into the... Well, it's nice that you can use both, right? Yeah. Yeah. So being able to like unlock it and see your notifications and then just, you know, tap is nice. Yeah, that works. Overall though, yeah, I think it's like one of the best. It's probably the best foldable available in the US. I like the aspect ratio more than the Z Fold 5 or 6 or whatever we're on right now. We're up to 6 now. 6, yeah. Yeah, final question, which when you plug it into a display, does it have anything similar to DeX? Answer, yes it does. Thanks to Michal Rahman, who's been reporting on this.

37:03But if you go into developer settings, turn it on. I played with it this morning as soon as David walked in. It has a very rough DeX-like experience that you can force enable. And I did have to force quit and shut the whole thing down to close the app. But it does work. And we should note that this is on Android 14. And Android 15 is officially available right now. But not yet for the Pixel Fold for some reason. Probably because people don't have it yet. It's available for the 9 series but not the Fold. so when 15 comes out i think that there is an improved dex experience but i'm not 15 is supposed to have dex right i think so one of the big features of it i hope so i mean it's not called dex i was just gonna say yeah google's calling we can try it on a on a 15 on a pixel oh nine yeah yeah yeah all right thank you for answering my questions yeah so adam is definitely gonna buy this thing 100 yeah i think a lot of people were pretty happy with it so it has i will say the wireless charging cable is in a weird spot um you can't it's not like direct center i've had to like move it down so i think the cable is a little bit lower and my car has been having trouble charging the phone this is why so i can't wait for chi 2 and why magsafe i still think is one of the best features that's been made yeah for a smartphone yeah in years it is a bummer that this does not have chi 2 and there's only like one or two phones out right now that have it so it's like a motorola phone that no one's gonna buy and some other phone yeah i do like that cases are starting to throw magnets in it because like this dbrand case i have has the magnet inside of it and then i just always know channel sponsor even though they're not telling me to but like it's one of the reasons why i picked this phone and stopped using my zen phone because i couldn't i hated the like and there was sticker on the back case for it no mag safe case for that there was a i bought like an adhesive magnet to put it on but then i just didn't have anyways mag safe is incredible I can't wait for Chi 2 on literally every single phone.

38:57They sent me a case with this, but it's like one of those silicone ones. Folding? It's just weird. And folding cases are weird. They're two-piece, and they usually have adhesives on them and stuff, and it's just very strange. I'm curious to see what Marques thinks after using it for a week, because he was saying this might convince him to switch to a folding. Really? Yeah. I mean, there are things about it that I'm like, I kind of would prefer the regular Pixel 9 for. It does feel kind of weird to have a two-piece phone in your pocket all the time, but it's thin enough that it's not like the bulkiness is not the problem so yeah it's funny because like if you're used to a case it's probably the size of a phone in a case but if you're used to a case you're probably going to want to put a case on it and now it's going to be a phone in a case with a case and i will say it was really nice on the plane on the way back because i was either able to put it in like tent mode to watch a youtube video like do this or you could do this yeah which is really awesome so you can't even see that on camera but basically different forms of tent mode which is nice oh and then also you can have like a giant viewfinder when you're taking you can basically be that ipad guy you know but with your foldable phone hell the giant viewfinder so i just also want to yell really quickly at google for making the the porcelain one the white one which is the objectively better color the google only available from google yeah so annoying sounds like they marketed that perfectly yeah it's gonna work yeah yeah especially since they've been opening all these google stores but yeah that's basically the pixel fold so yeah if anyone has any more questions hit them in the comments yeah after you like and subscribe yeah you can also uh post at me on blue sky threads or x and i'll try to answer your questions yeah but actually if people have questions they'll be great because we're main channel is going to do this review so much later we have some extra ammo for what people might want to know outside of the general reviews if they even come like again i said again wednesday morning i've seen like three video reviews on this they will come it's just people got them so late yeah sounds like google did a really bad job of rolling out this review program for the fold shocker does she have big shocker so um all right next story this is a small story but i found kind of funny it's pretty niche but i think as an example of kind of like the dead internet that we've been talking about and how yeah how ai is kind of ruining everything and you know essentially ai is going to create so much that ai is going to be pulling from put like ai already and we're going to start losing out on actual writers so if you if anyone's familiar with james hoffman he is like the number one coffee youtuber um highly highly suggest his channel he's great besides coffee zilla besides both similar content both similar looking just kidding um but on james hoffman's subreddit somebody just happened to search James Hoffman in Google.

41:44And what came up was this like kind of strange photo as like, you know, like the Google overviews will say like their age, it'll say like maybe where they went to school, a brief description of them and some links. And then usually a profile picture of who that person or thing is. The profile picture looked like James, but not really like James. And people were wondering what it was. And through a little bit of digging, they went back to this website from Anthony Basker, who has a bunch of, essentially an entire website that feels like almost everything is AI written. So it comes from this article about James Hoffman and being a coffee channel.

42:24And when I say article, I mean it just looks like he kept putting into an AI generator, like write why you should watch James Hoffman's channel. And then weirdly enough, all of the photos in it are like an AI generated version of James Hoffman. And they all look different. They all look kind of the same. It's all like similar hair color, glasses, like similar style, but just off. Yeah. And I guess I don't really get why they're generating all of it. But then there's other articles about like Joe Rogan and about like this political podcast. Every single piece of the website that I've seen so far is AI generated.

43:00It also says my personal review, which is funny because a lot of this writing looks AI generated. I think all of the writing and at least those ones about like podcasts and shows that they like feels AI. But I just thought overall, this was like a perfect example. Now seeing that Google pulled information from this as the interview, the like AI overview or, you know, the overview in general in Google search. Yeah. Pulling the profile picture of someone who is there's no shortage of content and photos of James Hoffman. Right. He literally has a super popular YouTube channel. Yep. I don't know. I thought this was kind of funny.