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36:59We look like we don't know what we're talking about or that we missed it or that we were ignoring the Switch. We didn't. We actually have thoughts on the Switch, but we don't have any of the information. Sort of. We have a bunch of leaks. We do. And we're going on some leaks from OnLeaks and 91Mobiles. The funny thing is, if you're watching the video version of this, the B-roll on screen right now might be real from the announcement that we have not seen yet. Or the word on the street is wrong, and this will just be us trying to figure out what we think it'll actually look like or reacting to the leaks or rumors.

37:31Believe what you want to believe. What if the event tomorrow is just another alarm clock? Alarmo 2. Nintendo alarm clock. I forgot about that. They did make it. Yeah. So, okay. I'm not a huge Switch user. Do you guys use a Switch a lot? I don't use it as often. I have one. It's good for flights and that's the only time I've found a lot of use in a Switch but then I started using my iPad on flights. But it's very, Extremely popular console. Yeah. You can dock it with your TV. You can use it anywhere. So people were very excited about this new Switch a couple years after the original. And there are some interesting rumors about what might be new about the new Switch.

38:07First of all, there was a Switch OLED. My thoughts on the Switch were always like, wow, it's nice, but the screen's not that great. Then they had a Switch OLED, which had a better screen. It's not some incredible 4K screen. It's a little bit bigger, too. I have the OLED. It's good. New Switch stuff. So there's a slightly updated design. It's, again, I think slightly bigger. Um, and then as I scroll down a little bit here, so USB type C on the top of the console, which is better. Top and bottom. Yeah. Even, okay. So you have the choice. Yeah. Isn't it eight, from what I'm reading is 8.4 inch screen compared to the seven inch screen.

38:38So that's a pretty solid. Yeah. Yeah. That's super. Thinner bezels and bigger footprint, I think a little bit of both. Uh, there's these blue and orange accents on the Joy-Cons themselves on the like D-pad. Yeah, so to describe what we're seeing in the leak is the whole console itself is black. And then the color pop you get is underneath the joysticks. But not only that, but from, and I believe this kind of looks like that, the way the connections for the Joy-Cons to the screen is a magnetic switch, which sounds so good. It's really cool. And so the old Switch Joy-Cons slid down on a track. and that wasn't the worst but the problem was is when you were using them as individual Joy-Cons and you had to like slide this little LR button bumper on you could slide that on the wrong one and it would get like stuck and be a huge huge pain in the neck.

39:31Every switch owner knows how annoying that is. So one thing with this magnetic switch is it looks like there's a little more room above each Joy-Con and it looks like there's a little better button layout for not having to use something like that bumper. I didn't really like the bumper that you would attach to it to be able to play with a single Joy-Con. It was super cheap. It was super cheap, yeah. There's also some other leaks I saw that I don't have listed here where it looks like some of the Joy-Cons potentially have an extra ergonomic bump on the back of them. Have you seen that? No. Also, they are planning on probably switching them out for Hall Effect.

40:06What are they called? Oh my goodness, Joysticks. Wow, what is going on today, guys? Joystick. We need more brain power. Yeah, the previous Switch had a massive drift issue where over a long period of time, it would start drifting to the left or right. So if you're playing Mario Kart, your character would just be going in a direction. You couldn't really do anything about it. It's like those shopping carts you get where one wheel's messed up and you're always fighting against it. And then it was$60 for another pair of Joy-Cons. So it was very frustrating. So it'd be very nice if these were Hall Effect instead.

40:35Just imagine the Steam Deck where it has the extra handles behind your three fingers you're not using. as Joy-Cons, that would be awesome for handheld, but it might not be real. Yeah, USB-C on the top and bottom is very useful. Previously on the regular Switch, it was just on the bottom because you could mount it into the dock and then that would be the whole point of the console is sometimes it's on your TV, sometimes it is handheld. But it was very frustrating if it was low on power and you were playing it handheld because you either had to hold it or if you wanted to have it on the table while also using the Joy-Con separately, it was very difficult to do because you had to plug it in from the bottom so you kind of had to like macgyver this weird angle and like break your uh usbc cable in the process so having in the top and bottom super sick um it should be a lot more powerful obviously yep we don't know if they're going to debut any flagship games for the switch to at the announcement but i'm not sure one other thing is right now the stand on this looks way better oh yeah it's it used to just be like one singular kickstand out the back.

41:40According to these leaks, it looks like it's one giant U-shape in the back, which will be so much more sturdy sitting on a table. The OLED kickstand was completely redesigned. Okay, I missed that. Yeah, so the original Switch had only like one little L bracket that was plastic and really finicky that would like pop out. The OLED one was a metal bracket that was actually pretty good. This looks like the... I liked it a lot. The like Surface X, right? Yeah, the Surface Pro. It was very similar to a Surface Pro design, and I liked it a lot, and it was also metal, which was really nice. This one looks even more different.

42:16It also looks like, is that an extra button on the Joy-Con? The backside of one of these leaks look like you have your RL button, but there's almost potentially an inside one at the top of the back. Maybe. I'm always down for more buttons. It is very not Nintendo to like kind of add a bunch of new stuff like this. But like if we're talking weird Nintendo controllers, the N64 controller made no sense at all. So I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to do something a little weird. Yeah. Nintendo has been bringing a lot more games onto the Switch. There's a lot more indie titles. There's a lot more traditional console-esque titles because for a very long time, Nintendo was sort of more focused on the cartoony aspects of video gaming.

43:03whereas now they're bringing in the more high fidelity stuff to switch so it would be beneficial to have these extra buttons because a lot of those high fidelity games use a lot of extra buttons yeah yeah i always picture the switch as like the king casual gamer console well that's what's awesome about it though is because like you could still pick do i want an xbox or a playstation or a pc and then be like all three of those people also have a switch because it's cheaper and like It's got a bunch of other more casual games. It's separate from Steam Deck audience. Yeah. I was going to say, is this one going to be cheaper, you think?

43:36That's my two main questions. Cheaper than the PlayStation and Xbox. Yeah. Yeah. But versus the Switch 1. No. So my two questions are, one, do we think battery will be significantly different in any way? And two, will the price be significantly different in any way? I never think battery will be significantly different in any way because anyone one day use or whatever. But that's not even what this really was. yeah I mean when you scale the size of something generally the battery life gets better even if the screen is bigger so there's that it'll probably be better battery but as far as the price I would doubt it because I would bet the components are much more expensive you're adding magnetic joy cons the joy cons are actually good now potentially hall effect there's a giant OLED screen there's a more impressive more powerful yeah what was the switch OLED MSRP when it came out 350 I think that can't be right i think it was 350 350 yes so like are we thinking 399 i could see 399 i could see i'm just gonna say 500 i'm taking i'm taking the under on all of those yeah i think the switch components have been in production for so long and have come down in price for so long that that 349 they could have sold for 250 today and still made money on but now that they've been making so many of them they can relaunch this new one at 350.

44:55it has been close to eight years since the original Switch. $350 would be awesome. $299 was a great price for the first one. Yeah, that'd be a good sweet spot. It is 2025, so they could go crazy, but that'd be nice. I'm so sad that by the time this comes out, it will probably be announced. Everyone is yelling at you, idiots. Honestly? They're like yelling through the screen like, no, no. There's two scenarios that are like, this is the most tame general Switch coverage ever, or this is the most tame general Switch coverage ever, and all of it's wrong, because we saw what happened yesterday. I'm sorry, guys.

45:26Thanks for listening. Turns out it's just like a Switch OLED with like a different kickstand or something. Switch OLED 2. Okay. You ready for the Fediverse corner? We're ready. Let's get the cheese. What? Yeah. Oh. God, this is the second time. I forget that every time. Okay. This week on David's Fediverse corner, we have two new updates to the Fediverse that we're going to talk about. Okay, first of all, there is a new Fediverse-oriented campaign starring Mark Ruffalo for some reason. What? Yeah. Who's paying? What? Yeah. Yeah, okay. So there is this new campaign called Free Our Feeds, and it is a new organization that is trying to raise$30 million over the course of three years to build out infrastructure on the AT Protocol to make it more billionaire-proof.

46:14If you don't know, AT Protocol is the protocol that powers Blue Sky. The thing about Blue Sky is that Blue Sky is a company. The AT protocol is an open source protocol that anyone can build on top of. But Blue Sky, the company, uses the AT protocol to showcase what you can do with the AT protocol. And that is what Blue Sky, the website, is. So theoretically, you could build out tons of different types of social networks on AT. It's just that no one has really done that yet, right? people like Mark Ruffalo for some reason have decided that it is really scary and bad when billionaires take control of social media platforms and you've seen what's happened at every other social media platform so they've been like okay we need to actually incentivize people to build on AT protocol to build other networks and other infrastructures to make sure that even if Blue Sky the company one day got bought by a billionaire and they decided to do what they wanted to do with it, that the infrastructure was separate from that and there was always going to be these other platforms running on AT.

47:22Okay, so there's a bunch of technologists underneath this organization that is trying to do this. They're seeking an initial donation of$4 million to start the process. And they hope to raise$30 million over the course of three years. I don't know why Mark Ruffalo is part of this. Me neither. but I appreciate it should I follow him on Blue Sky? definitely also they want the AT protocol and activity pub to be more interoperable and they list that on their website they really should be talking to a new social which is the bridgey fed people who have been trying to make sure that these things can interconnect that we talked about briefly a few weeks ago and this is what happens with protocols my friends organizations and standards bodies pop up because they think they can do it better than the other guy and then you have 15 competing organizations or standards xkcd yes i still think it's very good that this is happening um and i hope that they get the funding that they are looking for also very good sign that this is positive is that everyone that's like actually working at blue sky and on blue sky was like this is amazing and they were like promoting it and the whole point is that there's being infrastructure build outside of the company of blue sky you know just on at protocol and people that work at blue sky are like it's good that people are building stuff outside of blue sky cool that's fediverse update number one fediverse update number two you've heard of instagram i have but have you heard of instagram federated over activity pub what no okay did you say federated or fed gregated federated is fed gregated a word because i think we could figure like irrigated but in the fediverse just like added just ignore okay keep going yeah um okay if you've heard of instagram federated over activity pub that's called pixel fed so we've talked we talked in the activity pub and blue sky fediverse episode about how there's sort of a parallel of most platforms in the fediverse but there's just not a lot of people using them yet uh when some decisions were made at meta last week, a lot of people decided to flock away from Instagram and started looking for alternatives.

49:34The problem, there just hasn't been an Instagram alternative that has really taken off. And obviously, if you're leaving a platform now, you just like Blue Sky, don't want to flock to something where a billionaire could just take it over again. So going to something that is on ActivityPub or the AT protocol is your best bet. There is an application and service called Pixel Fed, which is basically Instagram, but on the Fediverse. It's been around for quite a long time. Old Instagram. Just photos. Yes. It's like old. Yeah. And it's got sort of the old Instagram UI as well. Probably not a purposeful move, probably just because they don't have a lot of funding.

50:15But, you know, it's kind of, it's a nice experience. So a lot of people have been flocking over there. And just in time, just yesterday, they officially launched a Pixel Fed Android and iOS app. So there are official apps now. You still have to like choose your server just like you have to with Mastodon. So it's a little bit complicated, a little bit confusing. But just like old Twitter that had all of those API tokens for third-party applications, there are third-party pixel-fed apps. So hopefully there will be even more that are developed. Whether or not this has staying power like Blue Sky did when people were leaving X and now threads, I have no idea.

50:52But apparently their servers have been getting really hammered this week because people are like leaving Instagram and trying to find something different. I couldn't even log in yesterday. Yeah. Yesterday I had trouble even logging into Pixel Fed. I was going to ask, is it not concerning, but this seems like a perfect opportunity for something like Pixel Fed to like pop off. Yes. And a bunch of people were like, I'd rather learn Mandarin and go to Red Note. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's like not great to be like, here we are, we can do it. And they're like, what's this Red Note thing? Yeah. I mean, it's similar to what - I don't think people are going to stay on Red Note, by the way.

51:34I think it's like a funny thing that's going on right now. It's the meme of the moment. Yeah, it's a meme. There were multiple like little social media networks that would pop up over the last like 10 years and people were like, I'm here now. And then nobody would come. So they would just abandon it. One of them is actually Lemonade, which is a lot of people are going to, which is owned by ByteDance. but like i hadn't heard that in so long and then i everyone on tiktok right now they're like top link in their profile is lemony and like to go find guys guys this is not gonna go well for you yeah anyway i'm on pixel fed now so i'm federating some pictures over there if you want to join me in the fediverse is that the official way that you say that i'm federating some pictures over there I'm distributing my pictures in a over a decentralized social network in a decentralized way that you can find anywhere in the Fetterverse yeah the Fetterverse we gotta shorten that I know there's an acronym there somewhere Juniper Nintendo Switch 2 and that's been your Fetterverse Corner update for this week the week of January 15th alright Look, I'm using Blue Sky, Threads, X, Lemonade, TikTok, Instagram.

52:54When is it? Are you on Red Note yet? That's bad. I'm not on Red Note yet. Don't get on Red Note. You gotta get on Red Note, man. Yet. Yet. Don't do it. See, my problem is if I don't, someone's going to take my username and then someone's going to be me on Red Note for at least a few weeks. It's probably already taken. It's definitely gone. By the time I say it out loud, it's taken. It's definitely already taken. It was me. Then I have to get the underscore MKBHD official. Talk to someone who might know a way to get the username back. The real Marquette. And then it's the whole thing. Yeah. Well, who are you going to talk to at Red Note?

53:27Yeah, I don't know anyone over there, so it's unlikely I'm ever going to get my username. That's fine. That's fine. That's okay. Do you know what you might know? What? The answer to?

53:39Trivia. I don't like where this is going. Okay. Trivia, dude. So, second question. Nintendo has a ton of classic games, but what is their best-selling game that they ever made? Whoa. Singular game? Singular game. I will tell you right now, it has 64.27 million sales. Is that a hint? No. No. How'd that be a hint? Just to get the number in your head. Yeah, no. So if you can tell me the name of the game, you will get a point. If it was bundled with the Switch, does it count as a sale? No, bundles don't count. Oh.

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56:09There's a theme there. I never know the names of these segments. I think we're going to go with Crown or Clown. Oh, I like that. We usually get a great comment. Yeah. There's usually a good comment that's like, no, you should call it this. And then we all laugh about it. But the working draft is pretty good. Yeah. That's fine. Working draft, crown of clown. Okay. So basically, you guys have to all agree on the best thing that happened this week and the worst thing that happened this week. So the best thing will get the crown and the worst thing will be a clown. But you all have to agree. That's the key point.

56:40So you can talk about something that we've already spoken about in this episode as being the best or the worst thing. Or you can bring something else in that's happening in the world that you think everyone should agree with you. That it is the best thing that happened or the worst thing that happened. The best thing is the Switch potentially coming out. I was like, I have a worst thing to pitch. I don't have a best and I just thought Switch 2 as well. But it might not even happen this week. I still think it might be the best thing that happened this week. Even if it doesn't happen? Even if it doesn't happen, there's not a lot of good that happened this week.

57:13And I think even just the hope of the Switch 2 might be the best thing that happened this week. But we can get back to that. Seems like there's a lot of clown things. I mean, that counts if you guys all agree on that. Well, let's get back to that. We'll get back to agreeing on that. Can I throw my worst thing out? Sure. Okay. Did any of you see this article headline that DJI will no longer stop drones from flying over airports, wildfires, or the White House? The White House? Yeah. Wait. So I'm going to TLDR this, but if you had a drone from DJI and you tried to fly over restricted areas, it physically stopped you in the app.

57:51Yeah. For some reason, they're deciding to... They still have an intense warning if you get to these areas, but it's a warning that you can now skip and it's just on the drone user. Why would they do that? I'm not totally sure. I kind of, the Verge article, and I kind of agree with this, is like there's been a growing distrust of drones and all of us New Jersey livers, the people who live in New Jersey, have seen some drone pandemonium over the last couple months. What is this year? I know. 15. So that's been going on. But like the reason this feels so tone deaf this week is we just saw someone flying a drone in L.A.

58:34that came into contact with a plane that was dumping water on the wildfires and sidelined the plane, which is horrible. Like every hour that plane is out of commission, we're losing potentially hundreds of acres of land. And whoever that moron is that flew that out there, the amount of damage they did and they haven't found them yet is just immeasurable. And it makes me so mad that somebody is doing something like that. So, you know, there's more to this story. There's like a lot of things in that DJI has been, you know, being on the safer side of what the FAA rules actually are. And first of all, I think that's OK if you're on the safer side of things.

59:17Like there's nothing wrong with that. You don't have to push the limits. But so whatever they're doing is still within the laws of the FAA and the U.S. and there's still warnings to not do it. But I think we all know that people are just going to skip those warnings thinking they're... And one of the things they do have is a better way of being able to track a drone and then where the controller is to be able to find someone possibly breaking that law. But I don't know if that works with all of the drones that are under the 250 gram limit, which is the hobbyist versus licensed drone pilot. So I don't know.

59:52All of this, maybe because of the timing where it's coming out feels even worse but i just think this is really dumb i can't find a single possible upside to letting people fly over airports yeah i just read this this article summarizing it and it's like this person asks like these geofences were voluntary dji built them it's good which i think was a good thing to do and so if you tried to fly in a place where they know that it is not legal it just wouldn't let you good idea they're voluntarily removing these geofences i don't know if it's places the control back in the operator's hands i don't see any upside to this other than dji being like whatever you do wrong it's not on us my biggest issue with this is like if they're saying let the people take the consequences if the consequence is something that physically harms someone else or screws up a plane and potentially harms people like i don't care if that person goes to jail i wish it never happened in the first place yeah and maybe i don't know how much damage a drone could really do, but it feels not worth the risk.

1:00:59What I don't understand is like, why did they change this? I'm with you. This is the dumbest thing that's happened this week. I can't understand any possible upside to this. Who is just like, you know what we need to do? You know how we prevent people from doing illegal things? You know how we voluntarily decide to do that? New update. We let them. I think it's a bad load. Play devil's advocate. oh boy i'm sure there's let's go the only thing i can think of is that i get the sickest drone shot of the inauguration oh god even saying that out loud feels i know i think they're just trying to because right now if something happens with a drone it's because their geofencing thing broke right it's like someone went through it and then the blame is on them it's because the operator did something and didn't get stopped even though they were supposed to get stopped Yeah, they're supposed to get stopped.

1:01:50So in that sliver of possibility, DJI is responsible. So to reduce their responsibility, they let everyone do whatever they want. By making it also more track, hopefully more trackable to who's the person flying. Yeah, ideally, you know. Great. So I'll know exactly who does all of these additional horrible things that will happen. Yes, exactly. As long as it's not DJI, that's a win for DJI. I would love to hear from people who work with drones, like in their everyday job, what they think about this? Because I would think it means the people who are licensed drone pilots using these responsibly shouldn't care about this too much because they're following the rules.

1:02:28But now you have the potential of more people doing dumber things with drones to make you look bad. That'd be my guess. I don't know. I've flown a couple of drones here and there, but like nothing that intense and not by an airport. Well, you guys think that was the worst thing that happened this week. Wait till we hear what Ellis has to say. I'm gonna try my best to tell you guys this story but Because it was just sent to me over and over and over again by waveform listeners in Thailand There's a disclaimer that I need to drop which is I've never been to Thailand. I don't speak Thai I know very little about that country and their technology sector So I did my best to research this to get up to speed to make sure I was getting my news from Thai news outlets that have competing points of view and biases, most notably Times of Bangkok, which seems to be like a more conservative paper over there, and then Thai Inquirer, which is more of like a left-leaning paper.

1:03:26Anyway, this is all to say, if I get anything wrong, that's on me, Ellis Robin, not Waveform, not my co-host. It sounds like it's about to be a whole drop. This is about to be so much worse. Suit for defamation. Here we go. Here we go. A few days ago, I started getting all these DMs that Oppo and RealMe, via an over-the-air update, started installing as a system app, meaning you can't delete it, it's baked into the OS, this app called FinEasy. FinEasy. And it's a financial services app, but most notably, you can get loans from it. You can borrow money on this app. This is already horrible. So mandatory bloatware through an update that you can't uninstall.

1:04:13Exactly. That sucks. That could potentially trap you in debt. To use it, yeah. Then people naturally started complaining, like, why is this on my phone? What the heck happened? Because it's a system app, it was granted access to user data automatically. So contacts, like... Yeah. So then get this, right? Not only does this app just appear, potentially trap people in debt to all sorts of bad things, is the more Thai reporters looked into it, the more no one knew who even owned this app. And when Oppo and Realme were asked about it, they said, we don't know. What? They said, yeah, like we just signed a contract and we put it on the phones.

1:04:59We didn't ask any more questions. Sign a contract with who? It doesn't make any sense, right? So according to, and this is now based off Thai Enquirer's reporting, they found, by the way, Finnezy's website, taken down in the past few days, not around. There's an old archived website which shows an old address in Singapore. And the website before it was taken down showed an ownership group of a company called Wealth Hope. If you went to Wealth Hope's old website, which doesn't appear to be there anymore, the support address, like the tech support address for Wealth Hope, was an at oppo.com email address.

1:05:37Bad. No, don't do that. So at this point, not that much info has come out, but obviously there's speculation. Is Oppo running an illegal bank in a foreign country? Yeah. Or did they just sign a deal with some shady group? Or how did they get? And it seems like the necessary steps are being taken. Oppo phones are banned in Thailand right now unless they specifically do not have the FinEasy app installed on them. The government is looking, the Thai government is looking into this. people are rightfully so upset and i felt like this was kind of an important thing to bring up on the show because that's a crazy story a few weeks ago yeah a few weeks ago november was a few weeks ago like eight of them yeah yeah my birthday was seven weeks ago yeah yeah so was mine isn't few three to five my birthday is in july so it doesn't really matter that's what A few is three to me.

1:06:32A few weeks ago in November, the United States went through something sort of adjacent where the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau began to treat financial apps as being regulated the same way as banks. To which a lot of fintech bros, most notably known smart and awesome guy Mark Andreessen, threw a big giant hissy fit on Joe Rogan. And so it seems like that is like sort of central to this issue in Thailand, too, where FinEasy, not a bank, but can also trap you in debt. So maybe they should be treated bank. Maybe bank. I don't know. It does. Yeah. I just have an article here saying that Oppo and RealMe said that it will not be preinstalled on new devices from January 14th on and that tomorrow, which is the 16th, there'll be an OTA update that will remove it permanently.

1:07:29That is correct. So it seems like this whole chapter will come to a close soon. That's wild. What a weird few days. If you go back through Twitter, you can find, you know, I found a few things. There were people saying, like, people finding beta versions of this app, like in code source, Android's Oppo source code all the way far back as May. People saying the source code was made by this company called Haytap, which does a lot of, like, cloud services in China. None of that has been corroborated. In my research, though, of looking for things about FinEasy, I did find like the funniest thing ever, which is in the process of searching.

1:08:14I found this tweet from 2013. I was like, wow, this story goes all the way back to 2013. That's so crazy. The tweet was Miramos FinEasy Ferb. And that's when I realized this is not about FinEasy. the Spanish language speaker just forgot to put a space between Phineas spelled incorrectly, the word E, which means and in Spanish, and Ferb. They meant to say, miramos Phineas y Ferb, which we're looking at Phineas and Ferb. Wow. I just thought that was so funny. Nice. Okay. Well, if you've been affected, don't ask us for help. But do DM at Ellis Roven on Twitter and tell me everything I got wrong. That's true.

1:08:55Pre-installed apps that siphon your personal information and then disappear mysteriously is definitely bad. And put you into debt. And potentially could put you into debt. Allegedly. However, my only asterisk is this appears to be more than just a this week story, in which case I lean drones. That it's not the worst thing? Yeah. Okay. I think it might have spiked. It's now being resolved this week, allegedly, which could have some. Yeah, maybe this is the good story, actually. Oh, it's alting. A horrible thing is going to end. Is this better than the Nintendo Switch 2 potentially being announced?

1:09:32I'm not sure. Similar vibes. Some, I think all that to say I'm leaning drones for the worst thing of the week. Does anyone else have anything else? Worst thing of the week is that I posted my freezer on Blue Sky. There's a lot of film in it. People got really mad. And they all said that I was full of hyper-processed foods. And I need to let you guys all know that Well, it wasn't just film. What else was in your freezer? Four Trader Joe's meals. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I got harassed. That's worse than the drones. That's my vote. I think drones wins. Drones wins. And are we doing... Good. Fin-Easy.

1:10:11Fin-Easy resolution? Getting taken away? Well, oppo real me's... The hard thing about calling it is the good thing is the people who are correcting it are the people who caused the problem in the first place. Yeah, yeah. But justice has been served in time. I'm happy that they're not dealing with it anymore. Picture being a company as big as Oppo, and they're like, so that app that you installed on everyone's phone, who made it? And just being like, boo. Have any of you watched Severance on Apple TV Plus? I know what you're gonna talk about. It's really, really good. Severance, a show that came out in, I think, 2020.

1:10:41Super good. They are about to release the second season on the, I think, 19th. And so they're hyping up all of this hype for it, which is really cool. And at Grand Central Station, yesterday which would have been Tuesday of this week Apple did like a little viral sort of like campaign where they put this glass box of part of the Severance office where people could just walk around and kind of look inside and then in the middle of the day all of the actors and Ben Stiller showed up and all of the actors went inside the box and just pretended to be working and so people could just like walk around Where was I?

1:11:23It was at Grand Central yesterday. I know, but I was here. And Adam Scott, too. You love him in Parks and Rec. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that that was really fun and cute and cool. Real quick. Yeah. This is a David fact. Oh, about me. Yeah, because you like Severance, and a lot of Severance was filmed. Oh, yeah, at Astoria Kaufman Studios. Well, I was going to say, a lot of it was filmed at the Bell Labs building here in New Jersey. and you love Bell Labs. Oh, really? A lot of it... I love Bell Labs. Sure. A lot of it was also filmed at Astoria Kauffman Studios, which is like a 15-minute drive from my apartment.

1:12:02See, they should just call this Dave-er-itz because it's all your stuff. The Dave-er-itz. I still think that Nintendo Switch 2... Sorry, no. The Oppo thing is the winner, but I just wanted to call it that I thought that was a really cool... It was a really fun little thing. If I had any idea what Severance was. People... Oh, it's a really good show. It's really good. It's like really good. Someone who doesn't usually say these words out loud. It's a pretty good show. I'll watch it. I watch like two episodes. I'll watch it when I'm done with One Piece. That's crazy. Oh, so never. So you'll never watch it.

1:12:30Mark, you had one more to throw in the ring? One more. ChatCPT is now a task manager app. Bad. Wait, that's a bad thing? You think that's a good thing? That's a potential crown. It's a good thing that only two people are agreeing with. It's bad for you guys because you're going to spend more time setting it up. It could be amazing, though. What if it's amazing? But what if it's awesome? What if I just hold down the action button on my phone and I just say, remind me to blah, blah, blah, and then I get the notification later? How important is your task apps to you guys? It's the most important.

1:12:58Okay, how much do you trust ChatGPT? From the demo I saw with everything I have. Really? Mm-hmm. From the demo? You saw a demo? Yeah. No, from the tweet. I saw a demo of the Faraday Future ones. No, there's a tweet. There's a tweet here. Look, the tweet, I'll play the video, is that you ask it to remind you to do something, and then at that time, it gives you a notification, just like you asked for. Wow. Boom. That should work, right? Should work. And then they've built this whole UI around managing those tasks, so you can add subtasks or description to the task. Does it do things for you? Well, that's the thing.

1:13:32It's ChatGPT. You can ask it to do things, and it might hallucinate or it might do the thing. It could be amazing. So give me an example of what you would do with this. At 1230, send a message or draft an email for my cousin to ask him about his new job and tell him that I wished him happy birthday. And then at that time, you get a notification with the draft of the email and you can just send it off or at the day you want, for example. Or maybe you even ask it to initiate a call and it does something. Probably won't do that. But think about if it could. Potential crown is all I'm saying. Okay, so we officially need to crown and clown something.

1:14:12Okay. I just want to say, so far I love this game. We definitely need to clean it up somewhere. So we'll take your suggestions. But I think that was a good start and provoked a lot of fun conversation. So clown. Worst thing that happened. I'm going with the drones being able to do whatever they want for no reason. The users controlling the drones. Yeah. That's the clown for the week. That's the clown for the week. Clown of the week. The crown is going to... It could go to Oppo's resolution of that horrible thing that started. Let's wait until it's fully resolved. That's a good idea. It didn't happen yet.

1:14:49Also, tomorrow. If they actually started it, I don't think that we should say good job. True. It should go to the Nintendo Switch 2, potentially. But that also didn't happen. So nothing good happened this week. No, that's not true. So we could go with ChatGPT. We could go with the Model Y refresh. we could go with oh my god i vote nintendo switch 2 i think we have to go i cannot agree with the thing that didn't happen yet just a thought of the nintendo switch 2 you guys want to be the best thing that happened i can't get on the best thing that happened i'm holding on to adam it's the only thing giving me a life right now ces ended that is good none of us got sick from ces yeah oh none of us got really good Alex and I just got sick regularly yeah that's true we got sick from CES somehow but not from CES not from CES were you in Vegas?

1:15:42no no but the cloud I'm going with CES ended and none of us got sick from it I'll give it that we'll think of some better crowns for the future for sure but we all know who the real winner was David well we know you're never getting me on that one okay well without any further ado we should uh we should do

1:16:12trivia

1:16:20this is not gonna end well I have both the answers here do you now I think it did. They could both be wrong. You got to play the trivia music. I think they're both wrong. You did. Wait, really? Are you good, bro? My headphones fell off for a sex when they were in here. Anyway, question number one. The Tesla Model Y, of which we just saw the new Juniper variant, which I love that name. The new Tesla Model Y, or excuse me, the Tesla Model Y in general was the first Tesla to incorporate what technology into the cabin heating system?

1:17:06I don't think I'm right but I don't know what else it would be I'm really mad I wanted to write what were we memeing on earlier where it was like you can't expect me to know what were we talking the planets calculus I forget there's something about TikTok I have literally nothing wow you literally did put nothing I don't know if that's right. David and Marquez, can you say your right answers at the same time? Three, two, one. Heat pump. Heat pump. That was so easy. Is it really? Yeah. Model 3 doesn't have a heat pump? No, it does. It's just the Y got it slightly earlier. I haven't confirmed that.

1:17:43But the big thing is that resistance heating, where your car's a toaster, is really inefficient in cold temperatures. Yes. The Rivian Gen 2 just got a heat pump as well. We love heat pumps. Do you know how a heat pump works? It moves heat. It pumps it. It's up the jam. No, it's like picture a window AC unit and then just flip it so that the cold part is outside and the hot part is inside. I think that's so nifty. It is. Yeah. How do they flip it? They added it to the 2021 Model 3 alongside the heated steering wheel. Fun fact. Very nice. Okay, without further ado. I'm glad I got the point, but I was trying to catch David, so I hope you don't get the next one.

1:18:34My lovely co-host, Adam Lucas. Damn, put my whole government out there. That's literally not your government. That's true. okay so after that correct answer quick update on the scores marquez with four andrew with one two two david with five in the lead david's carrying the one right now that's right i'm one point ahead okay nintendo has a ton of classic great games but what is the best selling game they've ever made not bundled with the console

1:19:17video game. That's a huge difference versus what I was going to say. Playing cards. Dang it. Wait, what were you going to say? He literally wrote playing cards. Oh my gosh. Which I think is probably right. I don't know, man. It depends if you count all 52 as individual games. No. The number eight is not a game, Ellis. It sounds like you don't have enough imagination, David. They sold playing cards for decades. I'm sure they sold 60 million playing cards. All right, flip them and read. What do we got? Mario? It's not a game. It's a category. Marquez, you're going to have to be a little more specific.

1:19:54We can't now. Mario 64. Is that a game? Nope. It was a game. Nice job. Andrew? I wrote Tears of Kingdom. Tears of the Kingdom. Nope. That just came out. I know. I'm thinking of the other one, but I don't remember what it's called. Breath of the Wild. Thank you. I wrote Mario Kart 8. That is correct! Correct! 8? America 8 has been on three consoles. So it's been on maybe two consoles. The Wii U and the Switch. That's why I said you had to be a little more specific. I pictured Mario. Yeah, but Mario somehow is not even remotely specific to Mario Kart. Hot take. Really? Dropping a hot take right here.

1:20:33Mario Kart 8 is a cheap knockoff of Sonic Racing Transform. Fight me about it. And Sonic Racing Transform is a cheap knockoff of Garfield Racing. Mario Kart 7. Also, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, which is on the Switch, is just like an updated version with all the DLC of Mario Kart 8, which was on the Wii U. Well, the correct answer was Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Yeah. But I just put Mario Kart 8. No, that's... He just said there are two different things. No, I did not. I said they're the same thing with DLC. Yeah. That's crazy that you knew that and didn't write it. Huh. interesting oh my god we'll let it slide we'll let it slide that's a two-point lead though i won't forget about that just like you can slide in mario code that's it for this week though hey let us know what what better name you have for clown or crown and then if we read through all the comments and there aren't any better names then we're gonna keep calling it that so no pressure but that's on you is that a threat uh thanks for watching and listening and of course driving and subscribing and for sure using chat gpt to do all those things in one single button click which I'm sure you're doing.

1:21:40And we'll catch you guys after the Switch 2. Peace. Hopefully. Now you love the Switch 2. I see. Waveform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Rovin. We're partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our trajectory of music was created by me and so.

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