Tim Cooked and Now it's John's Ternus!

22:55Marques Brownlee:They never seem to do it. I mean, because when you think about it, it's like, what could they really expand? Like you asked me the question, what product would they make if I could wave a magic wand? What would you want them to make? Because I just, I don't really know of a lot of products. Alarm clock. Like just a dedicated alarm clock? Yeah, I want. They'd say your phone's an alarm clock. I know, but I think the idea that like instead of expanding into more services, they expand into more hardware peripherals. You think they do that? No. That's kind of what I'm portraying. It's what you want.

23:20It's what I want. And it's what I think someone like Ternus would be positioned to do. But I think you're right that anything they do dilutes the power of the iPhone. Of the iPhone. Yeah. Yeah, totally. It's the everything device. So it's funny to think of them as the iPhone company because I think there's an argument to be made that Apple is actually an earbud company that just happens to make watches as well.

23:45Marques Brownlee:well both of those companies are just accessories to the iphone i know but like like you could make the argument that like while the iphone is like a game-changing thing it still is not like global market share whereas the best-selling audio product and the best-selling watch of all time are both apple products yeah true but both of those markets combined are like a fraction of the size of the smartphone market yeah and the apple watch only works on the iphone so you You need to also sell an iPhone to sell an Apple Watch. Yeah. Yeah, it's like they obviously had a ton of success with the iPhone, and they will never ship something that steps on the feet of the iPhone.

24:21Yeah.

24:21Marques Brownlee:But every time they do ship something new, their first move is to make it the one that works best with the iPhone. Yeah. So that if you have an iPhone, you are more likely to get this one than any competition. That's true about their headphones. That's true about the way the Macs and the iPads talk to the iPhone and the iCloud and all this stuff. Everything is a part of this ecosystem, and that's their strategy number one. I want to see a return of the HomePod and more form factors for the HomePod. I want to see them properly compete with Sonos. Yeah, and wire that all over your house. I feel like that's the next step for them.

24:53Marques Brownlee:A TV. Everyone thought they were going to make a TV for a while. They never did that. Then they just made the Apple TV, which is a TV, you know. Yeah. But what if, I mean, they make the Apple TV, Apple TV. And Apple TV. And Apple TV Plus. No, not Plus anymore. They killed the Plus. Oh, just Apple TV? so you can watch yo dog heard you like Apple TV so you can watch Apple TV on your Apple TV I think I got that question from a tweet that was like Apple makes three products called Apple TV none of them are TVs Steve Jobs would lose his mind yeah so they you know there's lots of things that I I'm curious if they're going to start to jump into or like dip their feet into and we'll see yeah well I hope that John Ternus says good morning very loudly that's the only got to have a new entry there's no way you can that's like a that's like a rapper's signature line true you can't take his bar what is up you need a new bar yeah he did he did uh i forgot what he said when he did the app the macbook neo did he say what did he say i don't remember that wasn't streamed so it wasn't streamed so i don't actually remember what he said because i didn't take video of it did you say hi everyone probably something like that that sounds like it sounds like what he said.

26:01One of the odds he gets on stage and goes, what's that? I need it. Not zero. There's definitely a polymarket link somewhere. Yeah. So he takes over in September. So I think Apple does nothing in September. Yeah. I'm curious what happens at DubDub. Is it going to be Tim that comes on stage? Probably. I don't think Tim has he come on stage at DubDub. Oh, really? He comes before the video starts. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Doesn't he open DubDub? Yeah, he comes. So it happens. Yeah, in real life. I thought they always, Dub Dub, the video thing always starts with Tim on the roof or something. Yes, it does.

26:36But also he comes out in person. Yeah.

26:38Marques Brownlee:So what happens is when you go to WWDC in person, they start, everyone's sitting in the same space and looking at the same screen. And they actually have someone come out on stage, usually Tim Cook or Craig Federighi because it's Dub Dub. And they come, sometimes both. And they come out and they say, welcome to WWDC. So happy to have you all here. They'll say like one or two generic lines. and then they'll walk off stage into the front row and then they'll start playing the video that everyone sees on the stream. And then it's Tim Cook and him again on the screen. So lately, so the MacBook Neo event, they had the announcement videos and everything, but that, no Tim Cook to be found anywhere.

27:13Marques Brownlee:It was just John Ternus on stage and I think one or two executives with him, but he was clearly like the welcome everyone to the thing that I'm showing you person. Test bed. So yeah, that happened once. That'll probably happen again in September, I believe Dub Dub. Well, yeah, I don't know. I think there would be a lot of hype if he came out. If John, I think that's probably what they'll do. I think that's probably what they'll do. Yeah. Yeah. Dub Dub is like a software thing. It is, but you're kind of like the, he kind of sets the tone of like welcome to the thing and then passes it to the software people.

27:44Marques Brownlee:Yeah. So you're saying John Ternus will come out or Tim Cook will come out? John Ternus. I think John Ternus will come out as the, I'm about to be the CEO. Yeah. And I think Tim Cook has done his last keynote. Really? That's what I was going to ask. So you think like, we're not going to get one more Tim Cook good morning? I think we're going to get some sort of like cheeky little thing. Like Tim Cook is going to come out and like airdrop the CEO position to John Ternus. I could see that. That'd be funny. So maybe DubDub is the last Tim Cook and the first John Ternus. He's going to send him an Apple events invite to become CEO.

28:20He's going to be a meeting with HR on his calendar. I wonder if they'll put that in the DubDub intro video this year because you know that everyone's gonna like some easter egg people are gonna be so excited about about the whole thing it's kind of great this is a cult you know

28:34Marques Brownlee:it's funny the amount of people who are like what about craig why isn't he the ceo because he's the one who's like the most charismatic on camera he's still in charge of all the software yeah so that's not he's got falcon here you just got to pick somebody yeah i'm glad i mean hopefully he reverses course with liquid s so well you know tim cook might have had his amount his events that he was going to keynote set to zero but you know what else uh you can now set to zero what youtube shorts on your phone what yeah i still watch shorts on your phone yeah it's crazy yeah yeah this is what confused me about this because shorts are made for the phone right vertical video tiktok instagram reels youtube shorts all this stuff is vertical because it's on your phone yeah they won't give us this feature on TVs or desktop.

29:24So Shorts is still available on YouTube desktop, right? Like if you're on a computer, you go to YouTube, you'll still get Shorts there.

29:30Marques Brownlee:For sure. But I have the option on my phone, which is what it was made for, to turn it to zero. Does it not percolate across all your devices? Oh. I imagine the settings on the phone. But I updated my app this morning, and I still didn't have the option to set it to zero. Oh, I have the option to set it to zero. So maybe I'll do that and see if it populates across. If it populates on your device, on your laptop. But yeah, so previously, you know, there was a shorts time limit. And I'm guessing this is sort of like a parental thing where parents could make sure that their kids were not just like brain dumping on shorts all day.

30:04And the options were in 15 minute increments. And it could be 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour. That's the verb for it, by the way. Brain dumping. Brain dumping. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brain maxing. And now apparently you can set it zero. Again, I still didn't have this option. But I really wish that more social media apps would give you this option because, like I've said, sometimes Instagram really sucks me in for 45 minutes.

30:27Marques Brownlee:They're never going to. Well, Instagram leans on Reels and TikTok obviously is TikTok. Yeah. I feel like this is something. Instagram is TikTok, too. This feels like how it should be, though. Like, I don't mind having shorts and Reels on my phone, whatever. If you have the option. If I have the option to go to it. I don't like being served it. But it affects their bottom line. Yeah, I don't give a s***. I guess it's too big of a bottom line. yeah for YouTube it's a fraction of their bottom line for Instagram and for TikTok it's too much of their bottom line to give you that option it's surprising to me that YouTube is even allowing this in the first place we'll flex yeah kinda I like it we're healthier yeah you know so yeah kinda weird and then you get sucked into long form yeah speaking of something disappearing oh nice because shorts disappeared for some people if you want nothing we kind of missed the story last week because it happened like during the podcast episode last week while we were recording.

31:19Yeah, but it also didn't happen. Yeah, it's Schrodinger's Airdrop clone. Nothing last week released an Airdrop competitor called Warp for a few hours. It was gone like three hours after they released it. They deleted all traces of it from social media. Android Authority got a statement from them asking why they deleted it. And Nothing said, our product team has temporarily removed the Nothing Warp file sharing application to make necessary improvements based on early user feedback and technical evaluations.

31:52Marques Brownlee:That was quick. This is not a permanent removal, but rather a strategic pause to enhance a product's performance and ensure it meets our high quality standards. So normally that's just a software update. So there's more reasons why they had to remove it. I hear this is a security nightmare. So we pulled it. Either legal or security or both. The site CyberNews was speculating that it was extremely close to an open source tool that was already available and it looked almost identical. That's funny. So it's possible that they just kind of took the open source tool and released it as their own thing and then they got blowback from it.

32:27I'm guessing it's more of a security thing. Apparently the way that this worked was that it would upload the file to Google Drive, send it to the other person, auto download it, and then when it finished downloading it, it would delete it off the Google Drive. That's crazy. Which is really weird. Really funny, actually. It's possible Google just didn't, like, this violates their terms of service or something for Google Drive. I'm not sure. I'm thinking, wouldn't that mean that there has to be some sort of automation to automatically delete something from a user's Google Drive? Yeah. Which doesn't sound like Google would be okay with that.

32:59No. No, I think, I think. No, because you can delete stuff off of your Google Drive with the Google Drive API. Like, I built tools that do that. I think it's more like, I don't think you can build a commercial service that piggybacks Google Drive. I think that's the... Maybe that's why. I mean, it's interesting that they even gave the statement and that they said it is a temporary pause. But, you know, it could be an indefinite pause. Could come back, could not. Yeah. TBD. TBD. I like how this is now a thing. Like, it seems like everyone has an airdrop kind of thing.

33:33Marques Brownlee:I, there is a phone that will, okay, embargo will be out by the time we talk about this. Oppo's phone, but this is also not just this phone, where there's like a seven or eight page section of their review guide, which is just clones of Apple features, where they'll be like, install this Oppo app on your Mac, and then you will be able to use AirDrop on your Oppo phone. And install this Oppo app on your Mac, and you'll be able to mirror your Oppo phone on your Mac. Like they are selectively going in and picking Apple ecosystem features and then making a like companion app that lets you have a version of that so that if you are in Apple's ecosystem, you can still use Oppo's phone.

34:15Marques Brownlee:Didn't they make some sort of workaround where you can also use your Apple Watch on the iPhone? Yes, that's another one. Yeah. So you have a specific app on your phone. Yeah. And then I don't even think you need an iPhone. I think you get the Apple Watch and then it can work with the Oppo phone. Yeah. And AirPods. I think you might need the iPhone when you set it up. Right. and then... Yeah, you need an iPhone to set it up. That wouldn't shock me. But still, it's so deliberate. It is. It's like, wow, I can't really switch to the Oppo phone because I use an iPhone and all these accessories. Oh.

34:43Marques Brownlee:Hold on. Hold on. We got an answer. Oh, but you can. We went so long without any of these and now it seems like there's a million of them. Why is it all happening now? It is strange. It is strange. Europe. Europe. Possibly Europe. Possibly Europe. We love it. Alright. Well, we got a lot more stories coming up. We clearly don't want to save the best for the beginning. I guess blow through the best at the beginning. So we're going to do something that lasts longer than Tim Cook's tenure, which is trivia. Does that mean we have to do 15 years of trivia? I kind of, yeah. Lock in. I hope Waveform is still going in 15 years.

35:26Same. Yeah, when I'm 45. All right, guys. Tim Cook is stepping down like we just covered. And this, I thought, would be the perfect excuse to ask a question about the most random fact I've ever learned about Tim Cook, which I got from a Wall Street Journal article. It came out a little bit ago. It's called Tim Cook on why Apple's huge bets will pay off by Ben Cohen. Big article when it came out. And the thing that I learned from this article that shook me to my core. M1? what is tim cook's favorite soda hint while it is a very common soda throughout the u.s it is not sold in apple vending machines like on campus vending machine that is correct

36:16Marques Brownlee:so does he just get deliveries directly to his office he said in this interview he does not get to drink it as much as he wants interesting i do know he grew up like in the midwest so this is Probably going to be a soda I've never heard of. He did not grow up in the Midwest. Oh, but he's from the Midwest. He's from the Midwest. He's not from the Midwest either. What? Guys. He has an accent. Not a Midwestern accent. Are you serious? Wait, don't look it up. I thought it was. Oh, yeah. Think about Tim Cook's accent. And now think about cartoon characters. Yeah. Okay. I get it. Is he really? Yeah, I guess he is.

36:50That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense, actually.

36:53Marques Brownlee:All right. Well, answers will be at the end, like usual. We'll be right back.

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39:57Exclusions like taxes and fees apply. See T-Mobile.com. Welcome back, everybody. We all know that Google could really do some stuff to make its pixels more appealing, and specifically, they could bring back features from the old Nexus days that would make it even more appealing.

40:12Marques Brownlee:I can think of so many. What's your number one feature? Glowing trackball. Trackball. Nexus 1. That would be cool, but they're not doing that. Oh, darn. Can I keep guessing? You can keep guessing. Boom sound from the HTC One Play Edition. That'd be cool. It's not that? No. Sorry. Damn. Physical keyboard from the G1. You really want that? No, I don't. You're right. No moving parts. Okay, hold on. Think about something that costs one cent. Half stage, like two stage shutter button from the Motorola Droid. That'd be sick, but they're not doing that. Damn. Yeah. What about an accent power button? Maybe.

40:49Marques Brownlee:That'd be nice. I'm not sure. They've done a lot. Remember the Panda Pixel and then there was a little orange power button? That was nice. Squeezing the sides? That was bad. It was fun. But it didn't work as well as I was hoping. There's a video of Adam and I in Central Park shooting my Pixel 4 review and just doing this and it not working. It's so bad. That was an era, truly. the best part of that video is that the only way for some reason that it worked was if you leaned over it specifically in this way that made you look like a mermaid so there's a shot where you're just like leaning on a rock like a mermaid waiting at the phone you see there's so many tech demos where they try to gracefully show you the feature and they're like boom and it doesn't work the first time and they're like oh sorry I just gotta do it a certain way that was one where they would try it like six times and it would work once maybe and you'd go I can tell this is gonna suck it was so bad okay what is it then okay it's leds multi-color leds yes for notifications customizable well maybe customizable i'm in yeah okay super in so there was an apk teardown of the latest android 17 beta 4 and there's a section in it with a whole page that specifically mentions pixel glow lights which will alert you of important notifications when your device is face down pixel glow oh when it's face down yes okay so it's on the back yes on the back there should be a light bar and a bar would be nice oh i was picturing because like i there's a couple that have had like pin lights or like the glowing trackball is an example yeah but like a little dot so it would just be like the yellow light means this oh no a bar it's a bar that's what's supposed to be so so it's going to be rgb um they said that you can have it for notifications for different types of notifications uh like phone calls from different favorites as well as it should animate while you're interacting with Gemini.

42:40Oh, yeah, of course. So it should be all wavy, you know, do the thing. Wow. And I just think that that's a pretty sick feature.

42:48Marques Brownlee:Tim Cook can never. This is crazy. I know. I really like this idea. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there was a long time where I was customizing Android ROMs or just had like, you know, software settings where I could decide certain apps would glow my notification light a certain color. Yeah. So there'd be like a light blue and a dark blue and a yellow and a green. Yeah. And so I can know what the flashing color of the light meant, and I can decide to check it or not. Yeah. So this is like a bring that back. If this is user customizable, and maybe there'll be a ROM that allows it to be user customizable, which might bring back ROMs.

43:18Who knows? That'd be pretty cool. That'd be sick. I think it would really help differentiate Pixel devices. They're kind of like, at that point, they're more customizable than nothing phones. Yeah. So it's like, what's nothing got on them, you know?

43:30Marques Brownlee:Yeah, I mean, the nothing phone has the screen on the back with like a bunch of, yeah, like it's this mini display and you have these apps that you know you get essential notifications from. It's interesting. Yeah. I think that's at least interesting. Yeah. Most phones don't have anything on the back that you can tell like what notification you got. Yeah. So I'd like another version of that. Yeah. You might be devil's advocate here. Sure. Try. So what? I'll defend it. I'll be devil's devil's advocate. The double double? Yeah. Okay. So for the record, great idea. Bring this back. I love this. but is this just google preying on our nostalgia because we have always on displays that gives us way more information it's not the phone upside down yeah but just putting the phone up you can see everything now like we have amoled this is like a solved problem that's valid uh i would say there's a couple things one i don't love always on displays i started turning them off on a lot of phones that it kind of got annoying either i would like tap the display as i'm putting it in my pocket and because it was always on it would light up as i'm putting it away and i get annoyed so I just turn it off and I started like leaving my phone face down these are face up sitting here but they're not telling me anything because I turned always on display off I would like to have them face down and just be able to know because I'm waiting for the slack notification for Wawa orders I'm like oh it's the pink notification I know I should check this one so yeah are they playing on my nostalgia probably a little bit probably a little bit yeah when I'm like out with a friend at dinner or something I pretty much always flip my phone upside down because I don't like that you know I can get a notification and it shows up and then I think that the reason that this is a little bit better is because being able to glance and just be like oh it's an email that's it oh it's a text maybe I should check it but not moving your attention to exactly what the text says on the always on display you get very distracted when you're like looking at that you can just be like ambiently aware that you got a text yeah and it also helps you if you're interacting with Gemini you know that it heard you because it's kind of waving around you know yeah and also just we like cool pretty colors and it's pretty standard.

45:32Marques Brownlee:You know the back of the phone is a historically underutilized spot. Sometimes there's a fingerprint reader back there sometimes it's not. Sometimes there's a little display back there like the Xiaomi 17 Pro sometimes it's not. I like something back on the back. It'll be interesting to see how they keep it waterproof and everything while also adding LEDs. I guess it'll have to be under glass. It's behind the Yeah. Where do you think it's going to be on the phone? I was picturing a bar across the bottom. That'd be cool. Like a thin stripe type of thing. That'd be super cool. I like that. I think it's going to be above the pixel bar.

46:01Like right at the top? Right at the top. That little sliver there on the pixel. I'm kind of on team bottom.

46:06Marques Brownlee:Okay. Careful. There's nothing wrong with that, Marcos. Just saying. Careful. So apparently the APK turned on also... Another one for the super cut. Also. Another one for the David's Freaky on the pod super cut. We watched that, by the way. If you're out there, we watched that and we laughed. I don't think most people know what that is. Okay, so the APK teardown also indicated a Pixel laptop that is going to be released. They try this every six years. And I buy it immediately every six years. Yeah, but what's more exciting about this is, one, it's also supposed to have the Pixel Glow thing, which I'm not really sure how they're going to do that because computers are just very different with notifications.

46:50Well, okay.

46:51Marques Brownlee:So remember the last Pixel laptop? Yeah, the cheap one. that had the pixel book go no so the pixel god the names hold on i want to find the name of it but it had an rgb stripe on the back but but after the cr48 yeah like the pixel yeah laptop yeah just so just that again yeah but have it light up that one didn't actually glow right i thought it did the chromebook pixel yes that one chromebook pixel did that one light up the no glow chromebook pixel is a pixel book glow pixel book go with pixel glow oh my god it let yeah it glowed that's great like that oh and it had what did it glow for i don't know but it's doing stuff it is doing stuff i gotta rewatch my review this is old this is 13 years old so old yeah but yeah it lit up it turned off when the laptop is off or it would light up with notifications or something on the back so that's that's the thing i would like them to bring back i mean the big question here is like when i have my laptop closed i'm like done with it you know what i mean i don't need to like see notifications on my laptop i already have my phone for that but this is potentially going to be their big android chrome os merger yeah os which means that maybe it will have a lot more direct compatibility with your phone yes here have you ever had this moment where you pull out your laptop to use it and you open it and it's got two percent battery and it's about to die you're like dang i I wish I knew it was about to die.

48:16Marques Brownlee:Well, you know how you'd know? Yeah. As if at 10%, it just subtly, softly glowed red, just sitting there closed. You'd go, ah, appreciate that communication laptop. Okay, am I crazy? Yes. You used to be able to do that on MacBooks. What would glow? No, no, no. There was a button on the bottom of the MacBook that you could hit, and then it was sort of like the battery tester. Am I crazy? Is that true? When you say bottom, you mean the bottom? Under it? I gotta research this. I'm having like a weird... Something wrong with the bottom. That doesn't sound like a Mac. I don't remember a button on the bottom.

48:48Marques Brownlee:There was a glowing Apple logo on the back of some of the early Mac. Yeah, just a glowing white logo. Yeah, just a glowing white logo. Yeah, but it never had any, you know, functionality. I didn't just think so. That's exactly what I want from my Chromebook when the battery's about to die. Use more electricity. Well, that's a tiny, tiny amount. I know, I'm joking. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just like, what other use case? I guess maybe you could use it to invoke Gemini. Like if it's because at the end of the day, they just want all of your devices to be endpoints for Google Assistant for Gemini, you know.

49:19So if you have your laptop sitting on your desk and it's your most nearby device and it has like always listening or something.

49:25Marques Brownlee:Yeah. If you can control your home. Is that a crazy thing? So like what if you know how a lot of laptops sometimes have like slightly thicker displays and they've put like compute in the top section of it sometimes. Like there'll be like a. I'm not crazy. This existed. Oh, I do remember that. The battery indicator. On like the pre-2012 MacBooks, there was a button on the left side of the computer that if you hit, these LEDs would light up until your battery percentage. I'm not crazy. That's cool. Where were the LEDs, though? Yeah, where is that? Where were the LEDs? The LEDs were also on the side.

49:57Marques Brownlee:Oh, oh, that's the, okay, the metal ones that, yeah, it's like a sort of a flush button with like five dots that would all light up. That's cool. I don't, wow, that's a good callback. I didn't remember that at all. That is cool. They should bring that back. So yeah, the idea of like a Gemini thing, what if there's a little bit of compute that stays on even when you close the laptop? Always listening. So it is like a little always listening little tiny computer SOC or phone SOC or something. And you can still ask it, hey, G, and the speakers are still in there. They're going to be muffled, but they could still respond.

50:26Marques Brownlee:Totally. That could be a thing. I think that'd be sick. Or it could be side firing speakers or bottom firing speakers so you could still hear it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Apple has been quietly adding thread radios to all their devices, right? I feel like Google could also start adding all of these multifunctional radios and stuff to their devices. And they want you to have as many access points for Gemini as possible because they want you to use it in as many places as possible. Yeah, they want us to use it all the time. Was it Nest that had a thread radio in a thermostat or something that they just turned on after X amount of years?

51:01It was the HomePod as well.

51:02Marques Brownlee:Yeah, the HomePod was silently carrying a thread radio for a long time. Yeah. yeah yeah there was an apple product that did that too but not with thread it was that release no an apple product released with a radio that they didn't turn on until a year or so later with a firmware update wasn't that the i thought i made a video about the it was the second generation ipod touch that shipped with a bluetooth radio that they didn't announce or turn on until like a year into that's crazy wow that's i really hope i remember i'm like My brain is filled with these 2010 Apple Macs right now. I have to go double check all of them.

51:37Marques Brownlee:That's really funny. Oh, iPod Touch, though. Okay, yeah, I guess that makes sense. I pictured my first iPod, which was the tall Nano. Yeah. That one with Bluetooth would be crazy. It would be wild. You could probably do it now. So, yeah, I mean, that's exciting. It doesn't take a lot to please tech reviewers. You just need to give us the RGB lights, and that's it. Yeah. You know? Unfortunately, I am easy to please in that way. Indeed. Indeed. All right, what is this headline about? Yeah, speaking of people who are not easy to please. Motorola in India is suing social media platforms and dozens of content creators over things that were said about the company.

52:17Marques Brownlee:Not a good look, but what are the details? Because maybe I'm missing something. Yeah, so it's seeking takedown of content and broader restraint for what it deems false or defamatory material related to their devices. it specifically called out that it didn't like that people had been publishing videos of their phones catching fire um which it said were fake it was saying that these things were fake but it wants to restrain people from suing and publishing this content including reviews videos comments and boycott campaigns so this is the prime uh example of the Mandela effect right no no no what's the if you hide something Streisand effect yeah Streisand effect I had not heard about any Motorola phone sketching on fire yeah and now I'm curious if they're real or not yeah seems like they're insisting that they're not but here we are there was someone that quoted like last week it was like there's two ways to respond to criticism one is to make your product better and one is to make it worse um by you know getting aggressive So, yeah, it alleges that there are hundreds of posts across social media that show Motorola products in a false and defamatory way.

53:30And it says that it did this lawsuit in the interest of public safety, which doesn't make a lot of sense. India is Motorola's second biggest market, which makes up about 20 percent of its global market share. And, you know, like obviously people on social media, especially big phone fans, can be pretty over the top sometimes. but stopping people from publishing negative reviews is not a good look it's a very bad look yeah and it it sort of tracks that they're they're suing them in India because I think that there are probably looser like freedom of speech laws there just hope that this does not happen because you know I don't know it's bad it's bad to repress speech when I read this I kind of it kind of reminded me of all the different ways that like CEOs just respond to things so like this reminded me a lot of carl pay with nothing because that's a company that has turned negative feedback into content in an interesting way like we will occasionally talk bad about nothing products and there are three things i know to be true in life which is death taxes and that carl pay will turn that into a youtube video yeah and just make a bunch of views like they turn it into content in a way that allows him a platform to respond without suing creators into oblivion.

54:50So I think that's an interesting way of going about it and Motorola should pay attention. Yeah, they're owned by Lenovo as you remember. True. I did not remember that. I completely forgot. I will remind you. And yeah, it's just not a good look. You shouldn't repress people's speech and that's bad. So we'll have to follow that lawsuit and see if anything actually comes from it. There's one other big story here. Speaking of following something. I'm going to talk about basketball. I hope you're proud of me. Steph Curry you know the king as we in the basketball industry call him the king is LeBron is that really I'll stop you when you say something

55:31Marques Brownlee:I'll stop you if you say anything crazy but you're on the right track so far. Okay well he you know plays for the Golden State Warriors you know he's been playing for them for a while he's so good with his accuracy when he shoots the ball it usually goes in the circle the hoop it's kind of crazy how many times he can get it in there. Yep. Yep. So also was an investor in Palm. I met him during my Palm briefing, and he was wearing it as a necklace. Anyway, the NBA is very deeply rooted in Google sponsorship. They do a lot of Pixel stuff. Famously, a couple of the NBA stars use Pixels every day, and they say they actually like it, even though people don't think they do.

56:14They really do. They maybe do. They really do. They really say that they do. Yeah. And we have been hearing these rumors of a new Fitbit coming out that's supposed to compete with Whoop. Because remember, here on the Waveform Podcast, we f***ing hate Whoop. Down with that company. We are Whoop haters. We are Whoop haters certified. Andrew's not here to defend himself. Andrew famously loves Whoop. Loves. I mean, Andrew's obsessed with this guy.

56:43Marques Brownlee:We always dunk on Whoop and he's like staking up for them. but yeah he's not here for that so if you don't know what a whoop is it's imagine a smartwatch without the watch it's the watch band but it's thicker and the idea is like you don't want to wear a smartwatch but it gives you deeper analytics about your body it's got all these different data points and they're suing like a smaller app company because they think that they stole a lot of their data points it's very stupid um but it's like if you if you wanted all the the benefits of an uraring but you needed people to know you were wearing yeah it's kind of a status the whoop.

57:15Marques Brownlee:Well, you can wear a whoop under your sleeve or hide it if you want to. Yeah, you gotta get an accessory for that, I think, to wear it on your chest. I'm gonna do a weird pivot here because over the weekend, Man City beat Arsenal. So it was a very hard day for me as an Arsenal fan. But at the end of it, Holland, who's one of the great players in Man City, ripped off his shirt, ran onto the field wearing a whoop band. And I was like, he's allowed to play with that? How? Well, is that my... Are they not allowed to play with those things? I don't know. I guess so. If it's under your shirt, yeah. No, that's fine.

57:45But they can't play it if it's over your shirt. Guys, I don't know if you know this. You play soccer with your feet.

57:50Marques Brownlee:So I think I think. OK, so I play I play a sport where before every game they line all the players up. They do the national anthem and then they go down. The refs go down the line. And if any player has on any wristband or jewelry or necklace or anything that could get caught on a finger and like pull. That makes sense. They tell you to take it off. OK, so you can wear it under your sleeve. You can wear it somewhere where it's not going to get caught. But then if it is out, you got to take it off. I have a question about that. I currently have a bracelet that I cannot take off. What happens in this case?

58:19Marques Brownlee:They will take tape and tape it to your wrist fully so I can't get caught with a finger. Why can't you take it off? Because it was one of those things where they zap it in place and it's there forever. You did that? There's other people that have that. Or they just refuse to take it off or whatever it is, so they just get it taped on. Whoa. You did that to yourself? Never taking it off. It's just a bracelet. It's like being chained to something for your whole life. Kind of. To what? To the chain. I guess. Anyway, that's like a tattoo, bro. Okay. Yeah. Well. Yeah, I have none of those.

58:55Okay, fair point, fair point. Anyway, back to Steph Curry, you know, the king, as we like to call him in the basketball world. I don't want to stop you. I'm going to keep, yeah, it's fine. You know, he shoots a lot of hoops. So he's been wearing this unidentified Fitbit device for many months. You know, there have been articles that have been coming out that's just like little glimpses of him wearing it. But then Kellen at Droid Life, shout out to Kellen, one of the most OG phone YouTubers there are. OG legend. In 2012, I had push bullet notifications for every article that Kellen wrote. It's pretty sick.

59:31He's still going strong. he decided to get a little bit obsessed with this because he's a huge basketball fan and you know as we all are here in the Wayport Podcast he's specifically a Trailblazers fan because he's in Portland that's tough well he analyzed a ton of Instagram videos, YouTube videos and there was even one other thing, just a lot of videos on the internet and Getty Images of Steph Curry over the last since February effectively and he was able to catch multiple multiple multiple glimpses of steph curry wearing this unannounced fitbit band that is supposed to compete with whoop it is much thinner than a whoop it kind of just looks like a pixel watch band but it's slightly thicker at the top and steph curry never wears it during the games i'm guessing for the same reason that you can't wear bracelets and stuff he never wears it visibly during the games but there could be a chest strap or some random yeah maybe accessory maybe yeah um but there are multiple screenshots of him wearing it out and about there is even an image that kellen caught where he has an app open on his phone that appears to be sort of like a new redesign oh i watched that video i didn't even catch that damn that's crazy that's good that's crazy playing site yeah yeah um so i imagine that you know it's been months since this has been kind of being leaked and i feel like google's leaking this on purpose at this point yeah honestly this to me is the best

1:00:57Marques Brownlee:case scenario i imagine he's invested in fitbit or some something like a lot of golden state warriors players uh california team are connected with a lot of california companies so there's a lot of tech connections so i wouldn't be shocked if he's invested in this company or something like that and he's just google there's some yeah for sure or they have some partnership whatever it is and so steph organically deciding to wear this for weeks and weeks before it comes out is is the best possible endorsement of the product right to me it's it's probably in his contract elite athlete chooses to use this product before it comes out before he's probably going to get paid to do a commercial or whatever about it he's going to be able to actually say he's been using it yeah and probably actually like really uses it and cares yeah so i yeah it's just free promo for them google stuff leaks already anyway all the time so here we are yeah um but it looks good i personally i would love something like this that gives you all the analytics but that you can put on any watch because it looks like it's just a watch band size with a slightly thicker top well the puck that's where it's measuring everything yeah yeah but if they were able to put that in the bottom part and then you could just wear a regular watch on the top i think that would be sick or maybe even like clip a watch to it i don't know how that would work but i guess you maybe could yeah maybe you just sew a watch my problem with putting it on the bottom of a watch band is that not all watches are meant for like sports and stuff yeah so if you're like wearing a watch that you don't want to smash into a wall, you know.

1:02:23I wouldn't want to have my tracker on the bottom of that. Having an option would be nice. Yeah. Well, it looks very googly. It kind of is just like this, I don't even know. Do you know how to describe? Can you describe this? It's like a...

1:02:35Marques Brownlee:So it looks like the, what's that Apple Watch band called? It's like the Trail Loop. It looks like a Trail Loop band, but without the Apple Watch. And instead, it just has this small puck under it. If you've seen Meta's wristband for their glasses, it kind of has roughly that amount, and it's on the back of your wrist where the watch would be. So no screen, no time. Again, it seems weird to people who don't use it, but a lot of people don't want a screen on their wrist, so it just has long battery, and it just sits there and measures your stuff, and you check the app when you want to see the info, and yeah, they're finally going to compete in that space.

1:03:07It's funny how out in the open he has been with us, though. There's an image of him giving an interview. Yeah, press conference. Press conference, and he just got it on. Love that. Which is crazy. Yeah. Have you guys used the new Fitbit coach thing? No, but you've been using it, right? I've been using it. I really like it. Really? But to this product's credit, it pretty much only works with Fitbit devices and or my Pixel watch. Yeah. And I don't wear my Pixel watch every day because it's a Pixel watch.

1:03:36Marques Brownlee:Yeah. It's like it's fine, but it's not the one that I'm like, I'm usually wearing like a real watch. So this is like, I'm actually very interested in something like this because Fitbit back in the day, to me was this it was just a random little tracker that pretty much everyone would walk into best buy and buy you can swap out the bands and everything like that then they started getting like a little bit more smarter and smarter and all this stuff but like the core of what fitbit always was to me was just this little tracker so if i can just have the little tracker with these in-depth analytics that you get from something like the pixel watch yeah i think that would be pretty interesting a win no i have a longer battery life too yeah when i when i worked at intel like they they were only like 30 bucks at the time to get the like little pedometer fitbits that you could literally put in your shoe yeah and then people would be able to and then we had like walking competitions which is so funny because it's like who can get the least work done um which nobody until gets work done anyway uh allegedly this is going to be called fitbit air that's what i think nine to five google found that interesting can we come up with different names that's my other yeah i think there's airs, there's pros.

1:04:39Air means light, pro, promax.

1:04:41Marques Brownlee:You should call it foop. Fitbit. See, the thing about Fitbit, Fitbit's a good name for a product, but it's their company name now. Google Fitbit. So you can't call it the Fitbit. That would be a good thing to call this. You gotta call it Fitbit something. Fitbit loop, maybe? Fitbit band? They'll think of something. They'll think of it. The Steph Curry. Also, the king is LeBron, so that's just the one correction I'll have. So what do we call him? We can call him the chef. The chef? I thought he was the goat. What's a chef? That's, I mean, he's some people's goat, but. Oh, okay. He's frequently referred to as Chef Curry.

1:05:13Chef Curry. Why? Because his full name is Chef-on.

1:05:19Marques Brownlee:And he'd be cooking out there because he's cooking. Yeah. That's good. Chef Curry with the pot. Is that real? Is that a real thing people say? Trust me. Yes. Yeah. No, it's great. All right. Last thing I want to do before we take a quick break is I want to show you guys something. and I just want to make sure I'm not crazy before I crash out about this. So check Slack. Okay. Check the Waveform Slack channel and I want you to open this Dropbox link and just watch this quick minute long video. And once you're done watching it, just let me know. Is there sound? You don't need the sound. Okay. You can see this is the Oppo Find X9 Ultra.

1:05:57Marques Brownlee:David, you want to describe what you're seeing? All right. So this is the Oppo Find X9 Ultra case. Um, whoa. Okay, so it's the phone and then it's like a giant accessory case. Looks like it's for photography stuff. The case that is next to it is like insanely rugged looking. Um, they slap the case on the phone. It makes it basically an OtterBox. It looks like a small rig had a baby with an OtterBox. They put, oh, there's like a front attachment that locks in. So it's like fully encased in this case. This is like an outdoor, crazy outdoor setup. Okay, now he's got basically what looks like a gimbal attachment or something.

1:06:37Oh, no. It's a shooting grip attachment that plugs into the phone. Looks very ROG, to be honest. And then they attach a filter attachment to it. So they can put like an ND filter, a variable ND on there. That's kind of cool. Yeah, it's variable ND. They're spinning it around. Okay, now they... I can't wait to hear what Marquez is going to say about this. Now they attach a cooling fan. Oh, now they attach a left-hand grip for some reason. Oh, now they attach a cold shoe. Oh, okay. Now they're attaching a quick release for a tripod. And now it's, oh my God, what is this? Oh, there's a giant Hasselblad box.

1:07:19Oh no, does this get crazier? Oh no.

1:07:24Oh no. Okay, there's a really, really big Hasselblad lens attachment that comes with like a tripod mount. You have to put a lens adapter on in order to... Oh my God. Oh my God. This looks so insane. What is this? The final render at the end doesn't have the lens tripod mount on it. Yeah, it comes off. It's a collar. It comes off. So this just looks like a Terminator situation. Please tell me they sent this to you.

1:07:57Marques Brownlee:You have all of this in the other room. Okay, so. What in the world? So I watched this, and my first thought is, what are we doing, though, for real, for real? I don't have a price tag on this, but I'm assuming if you are willing to buy this flagship phone,$8 ,000,$9 ,000,$1 ,000 phone, whatever, and you're also going to buy the lens and the battery grip and the cold shoe and the cooling fan and the lens adapter and the lens and the tripod and all this stuff to go shoot with your phone. You clearly really care about the quality of the work that you're making. So why are you using your phone still?

1:08:33Marques Brownlee:Spend all of that on a cheap camera that will do better than whatever you're about to shoot on your phone. This is not a diss on the camera on the phone. It's a really good phone camera, but physics is still real and you can still get much better footage out of a dedicated camera, plus better audio, plus better codex, et cetera. So I think there's a Goldilocks zone to how much it's acceptable to improve your phone camera before you're just going too far and you should just use a camera. You know, is that valid? I think that's, this is too far. I think that the only acceptable use of like really, really trying to improve your phone camera as much as possible is if you are going to make phone native content, right?

1:09:17Because the biggest annoyance of using a dedicated camera to shoot content that is going to be on phones is that you have to move all of the data to your phone eventually. So the one plus for this, the Oppo for this, is that, I guess they're the same company, is that, you know, if you're going to shoot like a reel or something, all the footage is right there. if you're editing on your phone it's right there but then at that point it's like this is clearly doesn't look like it's for real this looks like it's for like a feature film they've got it sideways this is going to be so hard to like you have to take all of this off your phone to begin editing this is unless you do it on your phone this is like a 90 second process I'm saying to even hold your phone in a way that's comfortable to edit to do anything with the footage you would need to disassemble this whole package

1:10:02Marques Brownlee:instead of just blipping the photos to yourself this is like yeah it's like you decide you want to get this shot or however many shots or this whole shoot you're about to do you have to go through this like two minute process of like assembling your phone rig yeah which valid you have a rig you're going to get pretty footage but you could spend two seconds turning on a regular camera and just start getting footage yeah and i just think yeah this is this is in the valley between like good phone footage and and regular camera footage you You know how you have that analogy of like VR headsets and like glasses and how they're both trying to move towards each other?

1:10:37Marques Brownlee:Yeah. This is like smartphone and camera. Yeah. Trying to move towards each other, except the smartphone went way too far over the line. It really has. Because cameras have, they are now cameras you can buy that are just all in one. They have really good mic, like pickup mics. They have really good quality. Stabilization. They're small. They have really good stabilization. Good codex. It's just all in one, like really quick short form content or YouTube video content cameras. and that's moved towards the smartphone line but this just went way over the line. I think it's way over, yeah. This is crazy.

1:11:07It's insane. Other problem is if you spend like, you're gonna spend like$800 on the accessories alone on like, it's probably a$1 ,000 phone and you spend$800 on the accessories and then you can never upgrade your phone. Yeah, once you move phones, you're like, well, I guess I don't use any of this stuff anymore. I guess that's useless now. Like it's, at least with a dedicated camera, like the glass is always gonna be relevant because they always use the same amount. Most of the accessories can be used on any camera because it's all universal. No, this can only be used with the Oppo Find X9 Ultra.

1:11:38Which, by the way, weird small rig cage aside, the phone is beautiful.

1:11:43Marques Brownlee:The phone is really good without all the stuff on it. Yeah, when you take all the other stuff off, the phone itself is like aesthetically gorgeous. Yeah. By the time you watch this, our video on it is up. It's called So This Is Peak Smartphone because smartphones are just, we've gotten to the point where they're so good that they're good at everything already and any differentiating factor is really just preference yeah i think that's my take basically on this and so when you look at like what do we want from a good smartphone screen well i don't know i just want it to be bright enough and good looking enough that i can see it all the time and it just looks good all the time okay well it is it's a high refresh rate super bright oled that gets to 144 hertz and will go down to one hertz and has high frequency pwm dimming and it just looks awesome all the time so success yeah what about battery oh i don't know i just hope it never dies on me okay 7 000 milliamp hours and silicon carbon and it's like it'll charge at 100 watts if it ever dies all right mission accomplished you kind of go down the line we've done everything cameras are the last thing they're trying this stuff they're putting huge 200 megapixel sensors in there they take good smartphone photos all the time but they're never going to take good you know high level camera photos so it's just like this is good smartphone photography and there it is yeah it's a great phone i have a question for you yeah if the accessories and the lens and everything was able to be adjusted to fit future phones would that change your opinion on it that would improve it but it would still feel like you're you're kind of spending too much time on because the thing about a smartphone camera is it's so convenient to just pull out the camera open the app and get the shot or just get the videos that's the strength is versatility so So if you're throwing away all the versatility to get this super good quality, then why not just get the super good quality?

1:13:31Marques Brownlee:You know what I mean? Like, just get the camera. And it's actually more versatile, again, because it takes two seconds to boot it up and just start shooting. So you're taking the strength of the smartphone, which is versatility. You're throwing it all away to, like, clip this case on, clip the lens mount on, clip the lens on, get the collar on the lens, do all this stuff. and by that point you're getting better footage but like you could just get a camera. But it probably costs the same amount as like an$800 all-in-one Sony vlogging camera. Which is gonna beat this. Yeah. So, yeah. That's pretty insane.

1:14:02Marques Brownlee:I'm glad I'm not alone in this. That's pretty insane. Anyway, go watch that video. It's the Apple Find X9 Ultra. Really good phone. Obviously great cameras but people are going too far. Yeah. All right. We'll take a quick break and before we do that one more time, trivia. Something that's universal across every waveform episode. That's good. Nice. That's good. Where in the world is Tim Cook from? Dang. Do you need the city? City and state, please. Okay. I think I know. I know, but you guys said stuff before that makes me think I'm wrong now. I have a good hint if you need it later. I'll take a hint.

1:14:39I'll wait till we wait.

1:14:41Marques Brownlee:I think the hint has something to do with someone in the studio here. I don't think we need a hint. No? All right. Then I'm not going to be right. Chicago. All right. Well, we'll either be right or we'll learn something. That's it. We'll be right back.

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1:16:33I'll be on the plane in an hour and a half. Okay. It'll be great. Yeah, I guess so. Okay. We're going to speed through these because Marquez has to get on a plane in an hour and a half. You nerd. So, we talked about the GoPro cameras last week. It was pretty crazy. They have new cameras out. There's the Mission 1, there's the Mission 1 Pro, and there's the Mission 1 ILS, Intermittent Lens System. We now have prices for these GoPros. Ellis is very excited about using them for - Yeehaw! Lenses. He's yeehawing over there. So, now, we got the prices. The Mission 1,$599.

1:17:00Marques Brownlee:Okay. The Mission 1 Pro,$699. Okay. And the Mission 1 Pro ILS,$699. Okay. But, these are all discounted by$100. if you have a GoPro subscription, which I didn't know what that meant. And what does that subscription get you, David? I had to look it up. It is cloud storage. It kind of makes automated little videos for you based on your footage. A GoPro subscription? Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's a warranty program, too. It's also a warranty program. Yeah, insurance. Insurance type program. You know how there's like the beastification of YouTube? Is this the Appleification of tech companies? A GoPro subscription?

1:17:34Marques Brownlee:Everyone needs recurring revenue. It's basically like you're a hardware company, but you need more recurring revenue. So you just bundle together some things that would work well with your hardware. I'm not saying this is a bad idea, but wow, a GoPro subscription. I think it's a bad idea. There's no money in selling something once. You gotta sell it a hundred times. I don't know how the subscription works, but if the camera is able to auto upload to this cloud storage thing. Yeah, no, I'm sure it's very clever. GoPros find themselves in situations where they become former GoPros often, you know?

1:18:01And so being able to know that footage is in the cloud, not bad. Yeah, a GoPro subscription.

1:18:07Marques Brownlee:Yeah, I guess. Yeah. What do we think? Wait, what's so far? There's a Mission 1 and a Mission 1 Pro. Pro. What is the$100 difference between those cameras? It's mostly based around the types of, like, the frame rates that they can record. Okay. So, like, 4K 240 FPS versus 4K 120. You get 8K 60 on the Pro versus 8K 30 on the regular one. So, the Pro has more processing power. It can handle higher frame rates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, that's the main difference. I still really want to shoot with them. I just got to see how good the footage is. Because we just showed you that insane rig with the phone, with the Oppo, and like this is going to be – you could get one of these and probably get really good footage from it, and it'll just be like one button click.

1:18:45Marques Brownlee:Yeah, I would rather have this than the phone. So, yeah, we'll have to get some and shoot with them and see. Much smaller. Okay. We got some colorful iPhone Pro rumors. So instead of just the – Oh, I love this. Yeah. So the rumors are that the iPhone Pro is going to come in this light blue. Don't care. Pantone 2121. Mm-hmm. Dark cherry, kind of don't care either. What is wrong with you, Marcus? This is crazy. Keep going. Silver, don't care. Dark gray, hell yeah. Hell yeah. That looks, and you saw the renders. Yes. Yes. Yes, please. Give me a dark neutral. You're like a Staten Island mom picking out the color of her car.

1:19:28Like, ew, any semblance of saturation, get it out of here.

1:19:32Marques Brownlee:It's just the best looking one. And you know what's funny? these are actually very popular car colors. Silver, light blue, dark cherry, which is kind of like the burgundy car you see everywhere, and then black. The only other popular colors I've seen are like white and beige. Yeah, no, this is gonna look good. I think the silver actually looks sick. The thing is, Ellis, I shoot a lot of car videos for autofocus on the phone. I get it. And the color of the iPhone reflects in every screen in the car every time. Yeah. And I've had an orange iPhone for many of these videos, and I pointed at that CarPlay screen, and there is just orange hitting me back in the camera lens and I can't take it anymore.

1:20:06Marques Brownlee:I need, and the blue one, it's close, but I just give me a black phone. That dark cherry purple is pretty fire, not gonna lie. It's, it's, it's, look. I had two questions here. Yeah. One, does this mean orange is dead? Yep. Yep. Forever. Like that's it. It'll come back in like five years or something. Purple is the new orange. So this, nice. So this is like a, that was a celebrity color. Wait, no, literally. Oh no, it doesn't work. I would say orange is the new black, but black is the new orange. Black is the new orange. That's even better. Well, I don't think it's black. Second, is the space gray name dead?

1:20:36Is that still available for iPhone? You can buy it on the MacBook is still space gray. MacBook is still space black. Is it not space black now? Oh, it might be space black. Space black is a different color though. Yeah, you're right. Space gray is... I have the space black MacBook Pro.

1:20:49Marques Brownlee:Space black, right? Yeah, same. I think it's called space black now. But do they not also? Because space is... You know what's funny? We talked about this in an earlier episode. Space is gray. No, space is... Mocha. Cosmic Latte. It's not fully black at the point. Cosmic Latte. We talked about this. The average color of the universe. What is this iPhone Air color? Is it just, it's not black. It's probably just black. They would never call something black. I don't know. They might. They would call it ambient stillness. I don't know. That was bad. Okay, so the MacBook Pro is space black. So is the iPhone Air.

1:21:24Marques Brownlee:iPhone Air is space black? Yeah. That's it, right? Yeah. I saw the leak and I was like, oh okay space gray's back and then i read it and i was like wait well they could still call it space gray i mean it could but what is it supposed to be dark gray yeah it's just dark gray like it's black dark gray whatever but like i likes i don't know maybe i've been like apple pilled but i liked space gray as a name i was like that yeah that's cool i feel like it's it's too reminiscent of the johnny ive era for me i feel like we need to move past it you know interesting yeah um okay so now Now that Marques has to board in one hour and 20 minutes, we got to talk about this Huawei Pura X Max Foldy Boy that they just launched.

1:22:04Huawei. Huawei? Because they want to get ahead of Apple. They want to get a Huawei. No, that doesn't work. They want to get Huawei ahead. Huawei ahead of Apple. Yes, we first saw rumors and leaks of this last week, but now we have specs and pricing. it is a short boy is a short king 5.4 inches um cover display with 3 500 nit brightness so very short phone it's definitely the passport style short king 7.7 inch internal display 3300 nits bolt support 120 hertz ltpo it's got that homegrown kieran 90 30 pro chip 5300 milliamp hour battery wish that was bigger yeah um 66 watt wired charging and 50 watt wireless charging 15 megapixel main 50 megapixel tele 12.5 megapixel ultrawide um i just love triple camera that there are triple cameras i the iphone's not going to do that and that's really sad because i really wish they would supports huawei's m pen 3 mini stylus so you can use it as a little notebook thing.

1:23:06$1 ,600 for the 12 gigabyte, 250 gigabyte version. 256 gigabyte version. $1 ,800 for the 512 gigabyte version and$2 ,000 for 16 gigs of RAM and 1 terabyte of storage. Really expensive phone, for sure. As will the rest of these be. As will the rest of these be. So, you know, yeah, it looks just like kind of the iPhone is going to look at probably, but it's got more cameras. You left one thing out about this exciting new announcement from Huawei. The colors? No. Unlike most Huawei products, the Verge article, I think, that reported, whichever article was linked in the show doc, said that it is unclear whether it'll come out outside of China.

1:23:49So we might actually be able to get a global, quote unquote global, minus United States version. If it comes to, yeah, yeah, yeah. It could come to European. Or it could not. Or it could not. Unclear. That's true. I hope it does. You know what is clear? What? The thing that we do at the end of every trivia, I mean, at the end of every podcast episode. I guess, yeah, there's not much more we can really say about this at the moment. No. No. Unless there's been breaking news. There hasn't been. I don't think. But I do need to address something real quick. Because certain video viewers may have been wondering why I'm literally decked out head to toe in Philadelphia 76's Cure.

1:24:26Head to toe is not an exaggeration. I've got the socks. They're on your toes. Oh, they're on your head and on your toes. This man is committed. Literally head to toe. And that is because... Oh my God, my leg is cramping from that move. Wow, I need to stretch more. Tonight, the Philadelphia 76ers play game two against the Boston Celtics. Last game, we lost by 30 points. And I realize that is my fault. I did not do enough to cheer on this team. So for the next 15 seconds or so, this is a Philadelphia 76ers podcast. Tyrese Maxey is a dog. Kelly Oubre is a dog. VJ Edgecombe, dog. These boys are going to take us all the way to the NBA finals, baby.

1:25:09And if you don't believe you're not a friend of mine, go Sixers forever.

1:25:16Marques Brownlee:Really? Thank you. I'm really sorry about that. What are we going to do when they get swept? Bro, if they get swept, you know, honestly, like I thought about it. I was like, how will I emotionally recover from a sweep? because I have been through, Philadelphia 76ers fans, I will make the statement, have been through more than any other fan base in the NBA, especially in the last 10 years. The amount of insane stats that are just emotionally punishing. Every sports fan believes this about their own team, by the way. I know, but have you, our star player has gotten sick for four out of the last seven, like not injured, sick.

1:25:52That's a bummer. You know what I mean? The fact that we continually have to play the Boston Celtics, both of whom star players, we had the ability to draft and didn't. You could be a Knicks fan. Okay, but the Knicks owner isn't literally in the Epstein files. There's just so many things that it's just like this fan base. And then I realized this is what being a Sixers fan is all about. Any of us could jump ship at any point, but we want the chaotic ride, baby. We want Kelly Oubre getting hit by a car two weeks after joining the team. Okay, we want Joel Embiid showing up. No, Kelly Oubre, please don't get by another car.

1:26:30But it's like, I love you, Kelly Oubre, man. Your eyes are so beautiful. Tsunami Poppy, you're like literally my favorite guy. Please just stay off the bicycle in Center City for a little bit. What's Tim Cook's favorite soda pop? Oh, yeah. Wait, wasn't this the second question? This was the first question. Oh.

1:26:56Marques Brownlee:I don't even know. sodas. You know, I feel like you'd know that intrinsically, Marquez. You love K-Bob D. And Hunter's. Yeah, but that doesn't mean I name sodas. I don't know anything about sodas. Here we go. I thought of one. Who wants to read first? I'll read mine. Orange Crush. Yeah. That's a real soda, right? Yeah. I wrote Pepsi. it is a Pepsi product though because according to the Wall Street Journal Tim Cook's favorite soda is Diet Mountain Dew the least Tim Cook soda imaginable I didn't even know they made Diet Mountain Dew and of course Andrew is not here today that's crazy alright follow up question where is Tim Cook from this is a Tim Cook podcast today for obvious reasons my hint is that it is arguably the most hilarious city in America for a phone executive to be from.

1:27:59Good hint. Really? I'm wrong. I can't even think of an answer for that. I feel like that'd be Weed, California. That would be pretty funny, but this, specifically for a smartphone executive, the way funnier. Flip him and read. What do we got?

1:28:19Marques Brownlee:I don't know. Paris, Texas. I wrote Dallas, Texas. Is it Houston? No. Oh. So before I tell you how wrong you guys are, quick update on the score. Marquez with 21. Andrew with 22. I'd like to stay at 21. David in the lead with 26. The answer, Mobile, Alabama. I thought I said it was the South and you guys said it wasn't. No, you said the Midwest. Oh. What's the difference? Where's the bar? How far South you are? The bar's in both places, actually. Famously. Mobile. Oh, I get it. Mobile, because it's spelled mobile. That's pretty funny. Alabama. That's good, right? That's good. Good hint. Good hint from Ellis.

1:29:02I, you know, that's it.

1:29:04Marques Brownlee:Well, we learned two new things about Tim Cook. Maybe next time we'll learn some new things about John Ternus or even some other CEOs. Who knows? Could get really fun. Definitely stay tuned for your regular scheduled programming and that bonus episode that Andrew is in exactly half of. And yeah, go watch the Apple 5X9. This is actually a technology jersey too. Okay. Just got the threads in it or something? Because it's an AI jersey. An AI. AI jersey. No more puns else. Is that Allen Iverson? It's Allen Iverson. That's AI, baby. All right, we'll be right back. See you next week. Wait. I just want real quick.

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