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43:06Sign up for free and experience how Grammarly can elevate your professional writing from start to finish. Visit Grammarly.com slash podcast. That's Grammarly.com slash podcast. Welcome back. this is now the atom cast because for the next 48 minutes i'm just gonna yell at you about the new teenage engineering product and you are gonna sit there and be happy not a sponsor not a sponsor um no basically teenage engineering vernis released a new sampler product called the rhythm and ting uh getting major inspiration from jamaican reggae and yeah yeah it's on purpose they collabed with a bunch of artists to like get custom sounds and samples in there from jamaica and everything like that uh also some of the proceeds go to hurricane relief i believe which is cool um nice yeah you guys had questions you said what is it what is it what is it so what is it and why do i want it despite not knowing what it is everything they make looks like a fun toy yeah it's a fun cool thing uh if you remember i think last year was it last year early this year i forget but we interviewed on this very podcast someone from teenage engineering one of the co-founders to talk about their release of the ep 133 which was a sample little box thing uh so this is also based on that platform this is the wait checks notes checks notes the ep 40 so the ep is just the platform that they have which is this like box situation with a bunch of buttons and they all kind of look the same like they developed it specifically so they can make a bunch of different versions of these things with different sounds and looks and features and all that stuff so the first one was the ep 133 that we spoke about during that interview a year ago uh the second one was the medieval one which was like when it launched i think everyone here in the studio was a little confused we were like is this a joke or not but it kind of was it kind of was it's like it's a sampler box but with medieval sounds i loved it in it like harpsichord and stuff.

45:11I love it. I own a harpsichord, by the way. Nice. Good for you. Big organ guy. When are you going to bring it in? They had organ in there, too, I believe. Yeah. I can bring it in whenever you want. What? I've been to your apartment. Where's your harpsichord? It's in the harpsichord room. It is a room. Yeah, it's at my mom's house. Oh, okay. I was like, it took me a second to register, because that's not like a small instrument. Fun fact, in high school, I played harpsichord, and I played ocarina, and I also played didgeridoo. Why can't you play a normal instrument? that is unreal I'm imagining like those like street performers that have a bunch connected together and him having those three somehow dude you would have crushed with that what's this one accordion accordion accordion's too normal you need like harmonium like that yeah that's sorry I would have been the greatest one man band of all time it was a special type of hippie in high school I'll tell you that David I'm sorry you didn't deserve that I'm really sorry totally deserve that anyway continue i think it's cool david thanks adam continue yeah so this ep40 is their latest installment of the platform basically which is has a bunch of like rhythm sounds and bass sounds it has a new synth engine that they're calling supertone and i think i believe you got like seven different synths in it which is cool that is something that the other versions did not have so that is like purely new but the coolest thing the thing that you guys mentioned probably before we started recording but it is the little like walkie-talkie device the coolest thing the coolest thing nice what is the like trucker radio called ellis like the always on like like ham yeah yeah like this looks like the thing like if you're a truck and you're like breaker breaker or like a cop and yeah it's like connected to the side yeah but if like fisher price made it yeah like really sick fisher price yeah because it's like multiple colors and everything pressure pressure press so basically all that thing is is a microphone that's it yes but it has certain features so for example the i think if you guys listen to i think the most recent trivia extravaganza ellis had a section where he transformed his voice into a bunch of different things that is something that this does it has chipmunk sound it has robot sound it has just be being like a regular microphone so you could like talk into it kind of like a walkie talkie then there's a fourth option which is like a lo-fi version so it makes it sound like it's coming out of like an old radio kind of thing it's pretty cool and then the microphone also has two buttons that let you play for samples i believe like pre-loaded samples so the whole thing basically it's not too much different than their last two products which is it's basically just a sampling machine so you can like a theme with theme yeah so they're all kind of the same you can like if you have an older sampler machine you can pretty much just load up all of these samples onto it for the most part minus the the new synth and they also have new loops that you can do on here but for the most part it's like you can just get these sounds anything it's just the cool aesthetic of it they all kind of match the the vibe for every individual orange green is so good on like the cream color it's it is i like they're running with these new themes because even though they really set the bar for the style that they had with their old stuff they had been doing that specific style for such a long time that it became a little bit like other people were copying them and it started to be a kind of an old aesthetic and now that they're getting into the medieval stuff and the reggae style stuff like i think that it's cool that they're just like reaching out like they're keeping their like identity in it with like these bits of orange but then they when like normal teenage engineering is very like robotic yeah they're bringing in all these fun new fonts and like colors and yeah like pictures on it while still keeping that like creamy with hints of orange and then adding another hint of some color yeah it's just i really wish i was artistically talented agreed i mean me too yeah same what is what does this thing do that the old ep133 does doesn't do what does the ep133 do that this doesn't do the old ep 133 i believe does nothing different than this one this new one has two new features that is the supertone synth engine and live looping i believe or looping something with looping it's like a new looping mode that they have so you can like play along with pre-loaded loops and stuff um so they just like kind of built on top of what the ep 133 already did and the original ep133 also had like 64 megabytes of memory this one has 128 so it has double that baby a whole 128 megabytes taking every ounce of restriction in my body to not buy the 630 bluetooth speaker oh that looks because the top of it looks look at this it kind of looks like a battery like a car battery yeah don't you want a car battery looking speed.

50:16Teenage Engineering is like one of those companies where everything they release has like huge fanfare and everyone loves them and then a whole other side of the internet that everyone hates it. It's like why is this thing so expensive because I could do all of this with my computer. Because it's form over function. Yeah it's just like a fun thing and they charge for that. Yeah for sure. They have a $900 version with a sticker on it. Sick. With a little John Lennon. They have a desk that's like 2G's or something like it's crazy. Yeah No, this is not pricey. But they also had a free computer case, so they just mess around sometimes.

50:49Yeah, they just mess around and do things. The loop thing, it says a live loop performance mode, so it seems like you can loop live if you have it pushing out to a speaker or something. Adam, did you already buy the pack that comes with the Rhythm Ting and the bag? The bag is... The bag looks like an Adam bag. You didn't get the bag? Because I already have a Teenage Engineering bag that Jono got me. You're the bag guy. I know. But I have too many bags, bro. I'm trying to like cut back. Bag guy by Billy Eyelash. I specifically got the version that did not have the bag. Did you get the socks? No, no, I didn't.

51:20The$30 socks. The$30 socks. That ain't bad. It comes with two pairs. Oh, no, it doesn't. Two pack. Two pack? Oh, no, two pack. No, that is two pairs. Is that two socks or two pairs? No, two pack. I think it comes with two socks. No, no, no. That's two socks. A two pack? They should not call that a two pack. No. Wait. No, no. It comes with. Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure. How do you know? One's green and one's white. Well, yes, that's two socks. No, one pair is green, one pair is white. Are you sure? Yep, rhythm ting. Rhythm ting. Okay. You guys really think a two-pack of socks is only two socks? You can never tell with Teenage Engineering.

51:57You can never tell. Yeah, it's hard. Like, you call it a pair of pants, you know what I mean? But it's one pant. It's a pant. You get two pant legs, but they're connected. But you still call it a pair. Yeah, I guess. I don't want to do the sock argument any longer. I don't think I do. I kind of want to stay in the sock argument. Two pack socks and green and white pair. That still isn't clear. A green and white pair. That's not clear. A green pair and a white pair. That's not. A green and white pair. A green and white pair. You can count four socks because they have the names on them. They have the.

52:29Because each sock. Oh, you have to scroll. You have to scroll. Yeah, yeah. Okay, it's two pairs. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's not clear until you scroll through the pictures that you're getting. Because one picture of a green and a white sock could just be something quirky that they're doing. And then it says... I agree with that. I did originally think one was green. A green and white pair, which could be a pair that is green and white. It should say a green pair and a white pair if they want to be clear. That's what they should say. If they want to be clear. Anyway. Well, yeah. This is pretty much if you are at all paying attention to what Teenage Engineering has been doing with this platform.

53:00If you were a fan of the other ones, you'd probably be a fan of this one. If it's not for you, then you're not going to like this one either. Do you already own the other one, Adam? Yeah, I own both of these. And now I ordered this one, so I own all three. I want it. This is like the first teenage engineering product I've wanted. You can play with it. I'll bring it in. And yet you sold your OP1. I did. I sold the OP1 many moons ago. Insane. I miss it. Okay. Well, speaking of green things, Fairphone launched the green Fairphone 6 this year. Wow. I know. Pretty green. Evergreen. And we talked about it quite a lot, but Fairphone has traditionally only been a European brand.

53:36and that's kind of been a bummer right i did uh get one of my close friends on a fair phone very recently i was very proud of her because she came from an iphone and from an iphone to a fair phone yeah i know it was crazy that's an amazing accomplishment what did you do to sell this no so it was made so actually what happened was that we i had just had a briefing with fair phone about the fair phone six being sent to us and then she texted me randomly and she was she sent me a link to the Furphone 5 and she was like if I get this then I can like offload I don't have to deal with Apple anymore and I was like oh well I'm getting a six anyway it's incredible and I have never heard anyone utter that sense yeah she's complained about it a lot for sure but I keep saying I won't be upset if you move back to your iPhone she's like no I'm committed she's committed but the fun thing about it is that she broke one of the cameras and I was like oh I'm gonna get you new camera and she's like no no it's fine and I said this is more for me than for you because let me do the whole point of this phone is that you can order individual parts and I this use case to be real yes so I was able to order an individual camera module that I can replace it how much was the camera module I don't know you remember no I don't remember but anyway the news is that they are finally moving out of Europe they are finally coming to the United States so through Amazon at launch they're going to be launching the Fairbuds XL which we talked about last year a little bit but they have a new version coming out that apparently improves on everything so that's nice um everything yeah we had the briefing he was like it's better drivers it's a better headband it's more replaceable it's but and they're not changing the name at all which is interesting they're just sort of improving everything and making them nicer sure so those are coming out uh very soon on amazon and then also in the future they will be launching the fairphone 6 in the united states as well they are in advanced talks with a lot of us carriers to actually get it registered on carriers so you will officially be able to you know put a sim card in it and you know do that and maybe do e-sim so i think that apparently they the the company grew 61 year over a year this year which means that people are really starting to be excited about their whole you know low um low mining movement and stuff like that very repairability movement at least in europe and i think that there is a similar kind of movement in the united states although we are mostly dominated by ios so we'll see how that happens in the u.s but either way it's like exciting that you can finally officially buy this and not have to you know import it and then kind of have it work on your carrier yeah i mean a lot of our listeners are based in the u.s and they hear us talk about fairphone so now they might actually be able to yeah so that's a pretty good deal i'm really curious to see how it does yeah me too yeah like europe it's a lot of android phones uh so it's like a bigger pool for them to kind of dominate that is not the case here although it is growing i guess there is a growing environmentally conscious uh swath of people in the united states i mean ellis is very environmentally conscious but good luck getting him off of ios well exactly his his way of contributing to environmental protectionism is just never upgrading from his iphone 12 mini which you know he's doing his part um anyway so that's that was some quick news also we have a new moto edge 70 coming out which is really dang thin only slightly thin thicker than the iphone air but it has a 4 ,800 million power battery which is wild that's crazy the s25 ultra has a 5 000 milliamp hour battery imagining marquez like in a cave painting 48 48 hundred milliamp hours silicon car yeah i love me some silicon car this is this is how you enable this form factor to actually be usable because this is what i was saying with the s25 edge and the iphone air which is like okay they're super thin and they have obviously worse batteries because physics but silicon carbon allowing you to get greater energy density in these smaller batteries this is the thing that would make it usable and at least be less concerning to me that you could use the phone all day.

57:54and here comes Motorola of all people. Moto Edge 70. They go ultra thin. It is silicon carbon, yes. And it is 4 ,800 milliamp hours. So it probably has a bigger battery than the phone you're using now. The S25 Plus battery today is 4 ,900 milliamp hours. So it's almost the same. So it's basically the same battery as a regular phone. Yeah, love that. Yeah, you know, I am still on team instead of making it thinner with the same battery life, just make it the same thickness with way better battery life those phones are coming don't worry yeah don't worry that's true i'm excited but if you want the ultra thinness that too can be yeah and if everyone wants to eventually make foldables it makes sense to make things that are ultra thin now so that they can just adapt it to a foldable in the future um when i was writing this i kept getting confused because it's called the edge which to motorola's credit they've had the edge name for a while yeah it's been cut it's there been their flagship they had the razor I've been using Edge for a while too.

58:51Yeah, and so this makes perfect sense, but I kept writing Samsung Edge. Oh. Or I kept writing Edge, but then I had to, because I was comparing it to the Samsung, which if you want exact thicknesses, this is 5.99 millimeters thick. Yeah. iPhone Air is 5.6 millimeters, and the Samsung Edge is 5.8 millimeters. Also, battery-wise, 4 ,800 milliamp hours on the Motorola Edge, 3 ,149 in the Air, 3 ,900 in the Samsung Edge. Wow. So it is doing great versus all of those. despite being barely, barely thicker. I think it's like... Yeah, less than a millimeter. Less than a third of a millimeter. Wow. Or like a third of a millimeter.

59:29Yeah. But so we haven't gotten one. There's some reviews up on it. There's two things I found interesting. For$920... Which is a lot. This phone is apparently just cooked with bloatware and ads. It includes things like Candy Crush, Monopoly, Pinterest, Copilot, all pre-installed. nothing's looking pretty good right now i'm not gonna lie including that's why i said that like we'll talk about bloatware um yeah including a ton of motorola apps apparently wow and then they also have ads in two different forms from what i've seen which is one is a folder in the app drawer that dynamically recommends apps that you might want that you don't have installed that you don't have installed my least favorite thing and then also a live lock screen and according to the verge sometimes it shows links to articles but about every fourth uh lock screen change it's just a full screen timu ad no way so that is crazy for like a hundred dollar it's nine hundred and twenty dollars and you get the the the capitalist nightmare phone this is marquez is your still thing right now like this is the thing about motorola like i they've had a bunch of phones come out over the past couple years that are like they they they're a blip on the radar and we see them and we go huh and then we just kind of move on like they've been strong in the budget space for a while.

1:00:50And then every six to eight months, they come out with a flagship, and we go, eh, it's not really hitting. They did an okay job here and it will kind of pass, but this is another version of... And this isn't even a flagship chip in this phone or a flagship camera in this phone. This is just a very thin phone. It's also not a US device. It's a Snapdragon 7 Gen 4. $900 something dollars. I mean, Silicon Carbon is great, but it's another... other silicon garbage it's another like weird kind of miss from motorola in the flagship space but they are doing things they had to pay for the pantone color that's that was the other interesting thing i saw i was like is that a pantone swatch on the bottom of they've been doing this i don't think it's even a glass back so i'm assuming the back's going to change colors very quickly well this is a pantone swatch they're for some reason obsessed with this even i think like four or five years ago on the razor they were like this they have this we have a we have a phone in like black, white, gray, and the Pantone color of the year, bright pink.

1:01:50And it was like a whole big deal that they could use the Pantone color of the year. And they've just been doing it ever since, as if anyone cares about the Pantone color of the year. Yeah. I don't know. But this one has the swatch picture on the back of the phone. They're leaning even more into it. That goes kind of hard. I was going to say, that is really cool. They have to explain to someone why you have a swatch on the back of your phone. And you've got to be like, oh, this is the Pantone color. And someone goes, well, what's that? and you have to go oh this would be so funny if it had the same manufacturing flaws the 17 orange did where the whole phone starts shifting color but the pantone stays exactly the same and you just can now see the difference it would also be funny if motorola stopped paying pantone and then it just turned black like it did in photoshop you just lose access to the color that would be crazy that would be yeah see they did this last year this is the pantone color of the year yeah mocha mousse.

1:02:40And the year before was Fiesta. It's just brown. Yeah, it's just brown. To be clear. But it's a certain hex value of brown. Yeah, it's a special brown that you have to pay way too much for. That will eventually start wiping off in your pocket. You appreciate it and no one else can appreciate it like you. I miss old Motorola. I know they're still dominating the budget space, but like... It's cliche to say I miss the old insert whatever here, but old Motorola cooked for a while. They had the Droid obviously back in those days, but then they had like the Droid X and they had that sort of hard hitting R2-D2 Droid.

1:03:12Yeah, and they had some bad phones too, like they usually do, but they had some good phones back in the day. Well, that's the thing. They always had a bunch of options. Yeah, Moto X was a good one. You can get a budget good Motorola. You could get a really cheap crappy Motorola phone or a top tier premium good Motorola phone. And then they just shifted towards budget. Now that's all one phone, baby. You get the top tier flagship and the disgusting budget experience all in one package. Candy crush, baby. Real quick, speaking of Google stuff, because this is kind of because it's Android. And we were talking about the Fairphone.

1:03:52I just want to make one more observation about my friend who's been using the Fairphone. She was like, oh, and also when I swiped to the left, it has these Google article recommendations. And they're amazing. And I was like, what? I wish I was heading to the same. I was like, everything it ever... My brother-in-law uses them, too. I was like, everything it ever serves me is just, like, shovelware, like, horrible articles. Mine are pretty good. Mine is awesome. What are you talking about? No, no, no. I stopped using the OnePlus phone because I couldn't turn that off. I was so upset. My brother-in-law uses no social media, so that's just where he gets news from, pretty much.

1:04:28And so, like... That's the same with hers. He always sends me stuff, and he's like, oh, I just saw it on the whatever. she's like in school right now and she's been taking like these classes about monkeys and apparently it's just serving her a bunch of like different random chimpanzee articles and she finds it interesting that's cool for you Google knows a little bit about her I told her I was like there is one Google engineer who is like oh my god it's working the engagement on this one node is through the roof yeah they just got a raise I've got one more thing to talk about and I'll try and make it really fast even though it looks like I wrote a million things on it Soldier Boy?

1:05:01But it is new Soldier Boy copyright infringement just dropped. Tell him, man. Tell him. Tell him. You know, sometimes we just miss the old days in like 2017. You miss the old Soldier Boy? I miss the old tech days of like DxOMark and screen-to-body ratios. And, you know, sometimes you get something that reminds me of those days, which is Soldier Boy ripping off a fake gaming console and selling it for way too much money on his website. He did it again? He did it again. Oh, nice. And I just have to say, my favorite part about this is it's available at soldierboy.net, which is the greatest domain name that's ever existed.

1:05:38But essentially, it's called the Soldier Boy Flip for$436. It has a 5.5-inch 1080p AMOLED screen, Snapdragon 865, 8 gigs of RAM, Android 13 for a premium retro gaming experience, active cooling, Wi-Fi 6, a 5 ,000 milliamp hour battery, which also something called the Retroid Pocket Flip 2 does for$230. Yes, double the price. It is the exact same thing, including all of the product photos on SouljaBoy.net are the exact same thing. SouljaBoy.net is a work of art. Just for audio listeners, I just want to tell you one by one as I scroll down SouljaBoy.net what you encounter. The first thing you see is him with a screenshot flexing a watch on a live stream.

1:06:23Then you scroll down and there's a tour and shop button. You scroll down again, there's a device, the flip. You scroll down one more time, and there are smart glasses. And you scroll down one more time, and there's just a Soulja Boy tell-in music video embedded from YouTube. Why would you buy Soulja Boy smart glasses? He has a forum post. Forum comments. Oh, no. I love this website so much. You can click on it. 404s. It says there's nothing here. There is one picture that is not directly ripped from the Retroid website, and that is a box that says Soldier Game, www.soldierboy.net, as a sticker on a box.

1:07:07But if you look to the side, you can see the front of the box is the Retroid logo. So it's literally being shipped in the same box with just a sticker on the side. Sometimes. This is Soldier Game. How does this happen? Sometimes I see this stuff and I'll see what looks like an obviously not very tech savvy celebrity who like actually they got duped where like someone came to them and they were like, I have an idea. We can sell this gadget with your name on it and your fans will love it. And then it's actually the celebrity that got duped. And this happened arguably with like some other people with like crypto stuff.

1:07:43And now with this Soulja Boy thing. I don't understand how this guy who's online and knows this. This time I can't answer that for you because I agree. This kind of feels like a dropshipper paying a celebrity to help them dropship. It's really hard to do this when you've done this already and got in trouble for it. Yeah, I think you lose the benefit of the doubt. It isn't really so bad to sell a white label product. But this isn't even, this is like not even AliExpress dropship white label. This is like US company with a patent he's buying. and putting a sticker on it. And that company has said, we have the patents for this.

1:08:18No one got mad at Aston Martin when they did it. I don't know that reference. Look, Google Aston Martin Signet. C-Y-G-N-E-T. I'm sure people got mad. It's literally a... It's one rule. It's a Toyota IQ that they just put an Aston Martin badge on and sold it as an Aston Martin. Did they buy it from Toyota? No, you could get a Toyota IQ at the same time. It was when the EU changed their fuel economy laws so that you had to have an average MPG across your whole line. Is that when Volkswagen got in trouble because they were lying? No, this is separate. This is like, they needed to sell a really efficient car and all of Aston Martin's cars at the time were like these big V10 cars.

1:08:57And anyway, so yeah, they just, but no one was like, oh, they're scamming people. You know what I mean? So why come after Soulja? Tell me, tell me. If you buy the Retroid Pocket Flip 2 from Retroid, it's$209. So it's literally half the price. But maybe you want the Soldier brand. But the Soldier brand is just not a sticker on the box. It's a sticker on the box. It's not even on the device. Nothing on the device says Soldier brand. It's literally, it comes in the box that he bought it from Retroid. And then he put a sticker on the side of it. I think we live in a world where everything is just a white-labeled something.

1:09:32So I'm whatever. I'm even white-labeled. I told my cousin to buy a pair of Tozo earbuds this morning. I don't know what that is. You must be your cousin. We're too deep. the fact that the company who makes it is angry should probably oh yeah yeah they're mad they said he does not have permission to rebrand our wait retroid sell them yes oh retroid has responded about so this is not an official collaboration no oh yeah i just assumed that he he bought a bunch no okay i was wondering where all that defending was no retroid said he does not have permission to do this that's that's cool all right i'm pretty sure the last game he sold had to get taken down as well for the same you know you can just like legally do this right yeah damn alright leave this all in Adam I need to wow okay cool that's enough of that but it was way too funny and reminded me of the last time he did this soldier boy tell him you know what I'm never wrong about what please open this with a correction from last week it kind of is a correction from many years ago though many years ago i gave you guys a trivia question and i'm bringing it back it's the same exact question because at that time i got the answer wrong and i think i corrected it but i just want to see if you guys remember so what was teenage engineering's first product the exact name or just like what was it what was it okay because last time i said this i gave the wrong answer someone from teenage engineering actually reached out, told me what it was.

1:11:04I then told you guys the following week. I sort of vaguely remember. And now I want you guys to tell me what it was. I remember that happening. I don't remember what it was. Yeah, same. But it was one of those like, you wouldn't know this unless you followed it back then type of lore. Yeah, but those people who followed it. But obviously if you work for the company, you're well aware of that. I will say that the proof that this person gave me was a Tumblr page. So that's how long ago it was. I think he was also like super chill about it. Oh yeah, they were super nice. He was just like, hey, just a heads up.

1:11:32That wasn't our first product. Interesting. Well, once again, we will either know the answer or we will relearn something. So stay tuned for that at the end. We'll be right back.

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1:14:41Yeah, we're good. Oh, can I close my laptop? Yep. No laptops are here. No laptops. Oh, snap. Yeah, buddy. So what I did was I stole a category from Jeopardy. So if you're a Jeopardy watcher, you may recognize this. I am. It's called Before and After. Chef Jeopardy. Do you know how that works? Yes. You do? I do not. So you can tell me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe I have it already. You're wrong. If you are unaware of how this works, this category is a word puzzle where each question contains two clues that are connected by a shared word. Oh, man. I pulled a couple examples from Jeopardy.

1:15:14I didn't do tech examples here because it took me a really long time to think of these. So I'm going to tell you two Jeopardy examples as an idea of how this works. So, old cat and mouse team who throws chairs at each other during a daytime talk show. The answer would be Tom and Jerry Springer. Say that again, David. Oh. No. So, ready? You're going to get two clues. And the answer for it is two words connected by a shared word. And the way you tell me that answer is not by saying the shared word twice. So, I'll give you another example. Paul McCartney's Bond theme plays as Bruce Willis fights off bad guys at Nakatomi.

1:15:51Live and let die hard. Correct. Oh my god. My man. Great job. You guys are cooked. No, we're cooked. Pop culture references. Marquez and I don't know anything about pop culture. No, no, no, no. It's not this. I made all the questions tech. Those were just examples. Those were the examples. Okay, great. Okay. Cool, cool, cool. So, like I said - Are we teams? Yeah. Yeah, it's you and me. It's Marquez and David versus Ellis and Adam. I have faith in us. I'm going to, one, I'm not as creative as Jeopardy. No, no. So they make the sentences and phrases very minor, just like, blank and blank, and you you create the word.

1:16:24And I have two clarifying rules that I'm sure will be asked. Nothing and fun one. One of them is, both of these kind of are rules because of how annoying tech companies are naming things. We all know that. My first is, as long as the pronunciation is the same, I'm count, it can be the linked word. Example, lift and lift. So like lift the company with a Y and lift, I will count those as the same connected word. My other one is a lot of companies like to put two words together as one. I will allow those individual words inside of a singular name to be the word. So if I use the example of web and native whiteboard app and what Jeff Bezos is the chairman of at Amazon, the answer would be Google Jamboard of Directors.

1:17:12Holy smokes. This is insane. All right. So I've made... Don't worry like this. Alice, how's your back? Wow. Because you're going to be carrying us, my guy. I really hope I did a good job because I feel like there's a lot of potential here. I'm so bad at this in actual Jeopardy. The last couple rules, I'm going to say 60 seconds to give me a final answer. So are you writing it down? No, you guys are going to say it. So the way I want it is I want you to discuss with each other since you're on a team. I'm going to do turns, though. So what do you think? Each question. I can't hear us right now. to make it fair, each question's worth two points.

1:17:54I'm gonna go in turn. If you don't get it, it can get passed to the next team, but they'll only get one point if they get it right, because they got to hear all of your deliberations. So I want you to discuss it during these 60 seconds, because this is still a podcast. How do we discuss it with the other team here? No, you can hear, but when they steal it, they'll only get half credit for the point. So that's my way of trying to comment that. Because I don't want you guys to be like, shh, don't let them. I want it to be a podcast still. Yeah. Okay. So I have an even amount of questions and I have a tiebreaker question just in case.

1:18:26Okay. What's our team name? I was going to go with Markavid, but I'm in. Can we do team meet? Team meet? Because it's just team backwards. So team meet. Yeah. And it also stands for Molina Ellis Adam. Team. Team. The Molina Ellis Adam team. There is. team people meet.com yeah team team farmers meet farmers only all right i have one more clarification because some of these were so hard to do every question has at least one tech thing there's a couple pop culture references in there they're all fairly easy and i tried to make them tech related okay okay okay okay who would like to go first i'll let you decide theoretically it doesn't matter who goes first points wise because even questions correct i feel like they can go first right yeah okay let hosts go first yeah we'll go we'll go clockwise again i'm just going to reiterate the rules don't say the linked word twice say it as one phrase right and then you have 60 seconds i'll tell you when you're almost done i'm ready okay so question number one an announced but never released home device and a christmas movie from 1990 whose plot would never work in today's technology bixby home alone yeah bixby home but it's galaxy home right is the name of the galaxy home alone samsung galaxy home is the name of the product yeah okay and it's home alone wait what was the movie again say it again a christmas movie from 1990 whose plot would never work with today's technology home alone so i think it's samsung galaxy home alone yeah all right samsung galaxy home alone final answer yeah yeah let's go not home alone too was that from 1990 lost in new york lost in new york that was good that was good i'm glad i knew the movie because i usually don't know the movie yeah damn yeah i tried to make the pop culture references not too crazy but some of them it's hard to link a lot of names when every product device just ends in a number and it's really hard to link a number into another tech product you know what weirdly gave it away for me what i it is burned into my brain that home alone is came out in 1990 because of how many bar trivia questions are this 80s movie uh did not actually come out in the 80s oh yeah this quintessential 80s movie best christmas movie elsa and i have slayed at bar trivia before by the way it is true okay a siri-based smart speaker and the portmanteau of ipad and broadcast home pod what is a portmanteau oh i get it home pod mini wait portmanteau of What?

1:21:02Of broadcast and... iPod. iPod. A Siri-based smart speaker and the portmanteau of iPod and broadcast. Home... Wait, the Siri smart speaker? So it'd be like HomePodcast? HomePodProcast? HomePodcastPro? HomePod... You just gotta give me a final answer on that. I can't clarify it. It's definitely one of those. It's HomePod... Apple HomePodcast. Yeah. Wait, we wrote that too. very nice good job all right i still i blanked out i don't know what we just answered portmanteau yeah that's a lot like a port wine i don't know what a portmanteau is so that's when you smash really i put that in because i know ellis has used that word in trivia before yes okay true all right ready marquez and david is black from hiking so much you should get that checked out i could show how is that not a soundboard You should get that checked out.

1:22:00Okay. All right. Ready? Yeah. Microsoft's cloud service and the documentary that got Americans interested in the most technologically advanced motor racing. Okay. The documentary, the F1 documentary is called Drive to Survive. Drive to Survive. And then it's Azure. Azure Drive? What is it? Is it Azure Drive? Can you say the first one again? Microsoft's cloud service. Cloud service. Microsoft Azure. I got it. Oh, OneDrive. Drive to Sir One. I gotta stop writing this down. Microsoft One Drive to Survive. Microsoft One Drive to Survive. I sold us out. Yes, Microsoft One Drive to Survive. Damn it.

1:22:37Yeah, sick. Maybe you don't need 60 seconds, but we'll keep going. No, no, no. We need 60 seconds. One of the worst Microsoft operating systems and a website known for selling custom business cards and other marketing materials. Oh. What? I have to... It's... I know it. One of the... Vista Print? Windows Vistaprint. Yeah. Correct. Sorry. I have a button. We have used Vistaprint in the past. Yeah. I regret to inform you. Wait, did you say it was bad, Vistaprint? No, I said Mista. No, it's one of the worst Microsoft. Gotcha, gotcha. Vistaprint's kind of dope. All right. Because in my head, I was like, Windows 8?

1:23:14Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, XP is fire. That's why I said one of. I didn't want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm being, okay. These seem easy. I hope they get harder. I was worried these would either all be way too easy or way too hard. Yeah. All right. Marquez and David, ready? Markavid. Team name? Team. The third best-selling non-bundled Wii game and the 2020 MKBHD phone of the year. Oh, I know it. I know it. Start that countdown so I can kill this. Mario Kart was probably the first best-selling non-bundled Wii game. Come on, baby! Wait, stop, stop, stop. Was it Wii Sports Resort? Wii Sports was bundled.

1:23:54what about Super Smash Bros? Super Smash Bros Brawl? So what was your phone of the year? That's what I'm trying to think back to. 2020. I think it was this. Galaxy S20 FE. I think. If I go back for it, with the S22 or S20. Let's go with Samsung Galaxy S20 FE.

1:24:15Third best selling non-buzzle. 40 seconds. Left? No, no. At 40 seconds. Super Smash Bros Brawl. Third best selling non-buzzle. Selling Wii game that was not bundled. S20? What was S? Oh! Wii Sports Resort or Wii Music? Give it to me! I have no idea. I don't know the third best-selling non-bundled Wii game. It's Super Mario Galaxy S20 Ultra, baby! So close! What? He said it out loud. No, there's just no point. Super Mario Galaxy S20 FE. You said Time's Up! Yeah, I know, but you said S20 Ultra. as opposed to... F-E. I said S20 F-E. And Marcus said it out loud. Yeah. I didn't think an F-E would ever fall for the year.

1:25:02The S20 Ultra was a very bad phone. Galaxy was the third-best thing. I am so... Do you... I just had to sit there and listen to them not remember... They said the word Galaxy and Wii game. Wait, what is the Wii game? You can't give me... Super Mario Galaxy. You can't give me the points for that? It's incredible and I'm glad it sold well. And I'll also say, like, that's a good way of taking this is, like, you guys had one that you were sure of, so how do you then link that into something else? because you know. I was like, I couldn't remember the phone. I should have thought about Galaxy. I was really surprised you didn't when Marquez said Galaxy S20 FE.

1:25:32Yeah. And then I'm surprised. The reason I picked 2020 is because Ultras won so many times. Did you know that Super Mario Galaxy was a game? Yeah. It's an amazing game. I knew David knew it. I thought this was a perfect David Marquez question. There were definitely people in the comments section like, me, me. Is this how it feels when you guys beg me for points? Because I'm pretty hot right now. This is why people are always like, David takes this too seriously. That was 60 seconds of excruciating pain. What's going to be true? That is possibly the best Wii game. It is so good. I'm a little worried this next one's going to be hard, but it feels...

1:26:07Give it to me. To me, that felt like a Marques David question. This feels like an Adam Ellis question. Excuse you. Team Meat. But they got 60 seconds. Team Meat. Okay. The acronym BIOS and a folder you should never delete. System 32. Is that the folder? The acronym... BIOS. My brother. Bro, you send us acronyms all the time. That is what I'll stand for. It's canon that I'm annoying. B-I-O System 32. Is it like bin... B-I-O-S... Can I ask Gemini? No. B-I-O Operating System 32. It's something something operating system 32 Right or is it 42? Bit integer operating system 32 People are yelling at us Let me know for final answer Is it 32 or 42?

1:27:0142, I don't know I hate Windows so much

1:27:08David just said it earlier this episode I feel like David did mention 5 seconds I'll let you answer I'll let you take it is the first word bin? Damn. Okay, before we say it, before we say it, because we can talk for a second. Okay. How long? You're starting the timer again? If they get one syllable off, you cannot get the one. Oh, no, no. They have to get the syllable. It's very specific. I think it's clearly operating system because it's system 32. Yeah. The question is, what does the B and the I stand for? Isn't that when you boot up? Isn't it like the BIOS is when you first boot up? So is it something like boot up something operating system?

1:27:45I don't know. Or is it like boot? I'm sorry. We're going to get flames. so hard by Windows users. Every tutorial I've ever watched is like collapsing in words on itself. I mean, we all know what the BIOS is, like when you get into the BIOS, but like when have you ever had to know what BIOS stands for? I don't know. What we wrote was binary integer operating system. I don't think that's right. So I have to think a little more. Binary, boot. I swear to God if you give it to me. 20 seconds. Ellis, it's very, it's literally what do you think bin is short for? binary bin bin but i don't know if it's bin now b-i-o-s all right five seconds binary integer operating system 32 all right thank god yeah we're gonna get flamed basic input output system 30 basic input output system that's what bio stands for huh well i don't think i knew that i don't think i knew that i don't think i knew that either which makes me feel stupid they don't teach you that in computer science i'll tell you that i didn't take at least not in my hippie i've just broken a lot of phones.

1:28:48I booted into plenty of biases. I've never seen basic inventory. I did a lot of vector calculus. No, you guys should be winning because you stole one. No, we didn't. Or you didn't. Okay, then you're tied. We're tied. It's 2-2? Okay. I'm going to kind of give a hint here, but not really, but only because I sort of messed the question up, but I still want to use it. The linked word, one of them uses the plural, one of them uses the singular. I'll accept either way you say it. I don't think that's too much of a hint. Alright, ready? This is Marques and David. One of Google's many killed services and the, quote, Internet's phone book.

1:29:27The Internet's phone book is Wikipedia. Wait, no. Yeah, I thought the same thing. Internet's phone book. I got it. Oh, DNS. DNS. But this is like something with a plural or a singular. What is that first part of that, Andrew? One of Google's many killed services. What does DNS stand for? Domain name system. Domain name system. So what is the kill service? Oh, Google Domains got killed. So Google Domain name system. That would be it. Google Domains got killed and domain domains. Google Domain name system. Yes. Yes. Final answer? Google Domains name system. Yes. Damn it. Fire. That was a good one.

1:30:04Why didn't we get that one? We got system 32. That was good. Okay. There's just so many Google services to choose from. They did kill it and now I have to pay support. okay you squarespace did you know that the week that we changed mkbhg.com we were on google domain we were on squarespace for forever and i was finally like you know what let's change google domains once and for all and then we switched and they were like oh this still exists and they killed it yeah they sold it yeah okay okay yeah adam and ellis i mean team me sorry thank you okay team me finally google's magnetic technology and a social media app with a spooky logo what is pixel snapchat god yeah i was literally so easy i can't believe alice got pixel snap that quick i mean yeah i had that too spooky logo okay this one i think these next two are potentially a little harder okay okay an all-in-one productivity app and an app that destroys productivity okay so these are actual app names yeah so an all-in-one productivity app is like all-in-one yeah but it's probably multiple and after destroys productivity which is social media tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock oh an all-in-one oh productivity app being tick-tock and tick-tock destroying productivity being tick-tock i like that tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock yeah let's go tick tick tock nice that was good it was a fun game we got there yeah I like this game tick tick is not an all in one productivity app by the way it's literally how it it's a couple in one it's a couple in one yeah I took it define all I'm sure that's how they market themselves it's literally you google it it says tick tick your all in one productivity app it is straight from there it's got a calendar in there define all team meet team meet the subject you never said Markavid again sorry I will try and remember the subject of the most organically viewed MKBHD video and a product that appears twice on Marquez's desk yeah the most organically oh is that it twice on my desk two speakers what's the most organically viewed I was just looking at this yesterday for a deck I have no idea but is that kind of a video?

1:32:35I think the way you phrased it, yes. Because by organically you mean Retro Tech. There's a Retro Tech that's number one. And there's another one plus. Actually no, this is higher than that. It's at 30 seconds by the way. I'll phrase it again for you if it comes in. It has to be Pro. Do you want me to phrase the question again? The subject of the most organically viewed MKBHD video and a product that appears on Marques' desk twice is at 15 seconds. Is it Apple Vision Pro Display XDR? Oh, my God. That was nice, Ellis. We got there. I just want you to know, I was almost tricked by that one. That was hard.

1:33:13Okay. Is it going to go to the tiebreaker? I have two more for each of you and then a tiebreaker. Okay, let's go, baby. Markavid. Yep, thank you. An app to hire a same-day handyman and a barely-reviewable AI assistant device. TaskRabbit. Oh, it's TaskRabbit. it's just TaskRabbit TaskRabbit R1 I'm trying it's rigged what are you talking about I went to Handy I'm a little worried this next question more favors Marques like the last one but now it's their turn I'm just making sure I keep scoring ready the third version of a popular handheld gaming console and a vibrant smartphone user interface. A vibrant smartphone user interface.

1:34:05So Samsung One UI? A handheld console? I don't know a single... The third version of a popular handheld gaming console and a vibrant smartphone user interface. Okay, Steam Deck, Game Boy, DS. But the 3DS is the fourth iteration of that console. So maybe it can't be that. The third is the DSi. is there any like android dsios you guys can't look at me for like hints on that the third version of a popular handheld gaming console and a vibrant smartphone user interface is there one that like starts with switch is there an interface 15 seconds left I kind of want to go with dsios but I feel like that's wrong I don't know because thriving is what's killing me I don't know any vibrant smartphone UI.

1:35:00What the f*** does that mean? How much time they got left? There's one UI. There's a carbon UI. The answer is Game Boy Color OS. What is Color OS? It's the Oppo operating system. Oppo skin. Oh, yeah. I was just watching a video about Color OS this morning. I'm so mad I didn't get that. That's so good. Wow. Combo breaker. That's huge. That's pretty big. Game Boy Color was the third version. Yeah. because it was so Game Boy, Game Boy Pocket. No, Pocket was not Game Boy Advance. No, no, it was. No, no, you're right. Game Boy, Game Boy Pocket. If you wanted to try and be a little specific, there was a Japan-only Game Boy Lite that came out the same year as the Game Boy Color.

1:35:39I was not trying to be that specific. The Game Boy Color is the third iteration of the Game Boy. Okay, fine. Oh, yeah, baby. Let's go. Okay. Oh, my f***. I can't even buy an Apple. I thought both of those were, it was pretty easy to get color. yeah I've never and then you get to we talk about color us pretty often on the podcast yeah it's it at times has been part of real me and uh one plus as well yeah oxygen like touch with when you said vibrant I was thinking like one of the super popular ones I thought vibrant was a pretty good way to just mention it's another way of saying color pretty much um okay I thought Whatever.

1:36:20All right. Mark Avid. Okay, don't worry, Ellis. This one fills up your alley, and it's for them, so we'll see. Okay. The official name for the worst product Marquez has ever reviewed and an American wireless prepaid service provider. Humane AI pin. Prepaid is US wireless. I don't know any prepaid. Wait, say the whole thing again. The official name for the worst product Marques has ever reviewed and an American wireless prepaid service provider. Was the worst product the Humane AI pin or was that the Fisker? Fisker was the worst car. The Humane AI pin was the worst product dot dot dot for now. Okay.

1:37:04But I feel like it's still the worst product. So prepaid is there's a singular that's Boost Mobile. There's do any of them start with Mint pin? Oh, hold on. I will, okay. I'm going to redo this and give you 30 seconds since you got to try. 30? Because I realized I messed up a part of the question. But then should you give us 60? I'll give you 45 because you've gotten to talk about half of it. Okay, ready? Okay. The official name for the dumbest product Marques has ever reviewed and an American wireless prepaid service provider. What is dumbest? Dyson headphones. The Dyson. I don't remember what it was called.

1:37:41Ooh, wait. What was the name of the Dyson headphones? the i'll give you the full 60 seconds since it was that different and both of you seem to change what was the name of the dyson headphones i'm trying to think now okay so this is the dyson think of the wireless providers i guess there's singular oh something boost it was definitely something boost something boost dyson dyna boost or something why is dyna tack in my head that's not it yeah dyson headphones had a name and dyson headphones were called was it boost something v VTech. That's their vacuums. VBoost. Oh, I don't know that. Wait, okay.

1:38:15Prepaid services are 20 seconds left. Boost Mobile and what else? Mint. Mint. It's not that. U.S. Singular and U.S. Mobile. It's not U.S. So it's probably Boost. Okay, so Dyson Dyson. 10 seconds. Boost. Air Boost. Dyson something Boost Mobile. Need an answer? We're just going to say Dyson Boost Mobile. Yeah. All right. Starting your timer. Air Boost. Super Book. Dyson. Super Book. It's funny because, I don't know if that's a hint or not. Don't say anything. I'm so proud of this one coming together. This one's good. Because it was not easy to put together. But at the same time. Dyson headphones.

1:38:57What were they called? This isn't the one with the face mask. This is the second one you said. I'm not answering that question. It is the one with the face mask. It's funny. Oh, it is the one with the face mask. If you got the linked word, you would almost automatically know the other one. It's not. Metro Boost Visible Mint. 30 seconds? There's another cheap one. I don't know. It's definitely not Boost. I'm really hoping there's a big sigh after hearing these. Airblade. 15 seconds? What is this one? Mint. Mint Visible Boost. The Dyson Invisible? Dyson In... I don't know. Five seconds? I'm stumped.

1:39:36You got me. I'm going Dyson Invisible. damn it it is the dyson on track phone wireless a track phone on track on track is the name of the product like oh n t r a c and track phone is t r a c that's a good one i've never heard of that wireless service though i did know about track wireless provider no track phone is the wireless provider on track is the head i forgot that it was called the on track it's called the on track Dyson OnTrack? Wow. That's weird. Why is it called the OnTrack? We are getting... Toast. I think we should look at Andrew's FanDuel account just to make sure we're profiting off this.

1:40:17Sports page. All right, this is for Adam and Ellis. Okay. And this is a Marquez and David question, I feel like. It's fine. We're not going to get that right. That's what they're going to get right. A 2013 self-healing smartphone and a 2018 smartphone, that sounds like it needs healing. Okay, the LGG Flex was the first one in 2013. He's talking about the FlexPie. The LGG Royal FlexPie? The LG FlexPie? I'm going to ask for the final answer, but remember how this has to work. How does it have to work? How the phrase has to work. So it has to be like... A linked word. A linked word. You said it's the LGG Flex?

1:41:04G Flex Pie and then the Royal Flex Pie Royal Flex Pie I think it was the LG Flex straight up from 2013 I don't think it was G Flex or was it G Flex I can't remember I can see the video with Marquez say something I wasn't alive in 2013 Adam you should give an answer in 10 seconds LG Royal Flex Pie yeah the lg royal no not that you say something i don't understand the rules but you just the lg flex pie so close adam said it like three times and ellis yeah you did say it the lg g flex pie damn it yeah yeah you just didn't have to say royal is what i was trying to show like and you had to say g yeah you had to say g which you didn't do because it was the g flex the g Flex, which Adam had, and then you said the G Flex Royale Flex Pot.

1:42:05Super Mario Samsung Galaxy FE20. You said Ultra. I know, but Samsung is in between Super Mario and Galaxy. I didn't say it's just the Galaxy S20 FE. So you just... Roll back the tape. It didn't work for you the last time we rolled back the tape, Alex. You gave us the points? Yep. That's a steal point? That's a steal point. There's two more questions. and I'm doing the tiebreaker either way. Let's do it. Okay. Damn it. Mark Avin. Thank you. Yes. The 2016 version of a bezel-less smartphone and a Twitch competitor that didn't last very long. Oh, I got this. What was the Twitch competitor? It was...

1:42:43Wait, no, I can do the phone. Okay, I'll do the Twitch competitor. The phone, 2016, upstairs. It was the Microsoft. Oh, the first one? No, no, no. It's the one with the fat chin. It's the Microsoft. Okay, it's either the... Microsoft. the Sharp Aquos what was the second thing? a Twitch competitor that didn't last very long the one after which was the Xiaomi Mi Mixer Xiaomi Mi Mixer Xiaomi Mi Mixer yes I didn't know either of those things I know phones that's the one thing I know that was crazy I think you guys have this one but this one's insane perfect i'm pretty proud of this one let's hear it and i hope i i hope i did it right okay yeah these are good these are good andrew ready yeah the last version of a poorly named wireless headphone before the design change and a location-based social network that helps discover new places before the design change it's oh you're gonna make me say the whole headphone name it's a poorly named wireless it's four square and it's the samsung it's the samsung thing with a million letters that no one can ever remember.

1:43:57It's not the Sony one? Sorry, Sony one. Sony WH-1000XM3s? No, it's the four and then four square is the connecting one. Sony WF-1000XM4 square. Is that your final answer? Sony WF-1000XMWH? Dude, I don't know. What? I don't know. I don't know. There are better... This is crazy. You've got 25 seconds. Okay, wait, wait, wait. Let me... Everyone give Adam the four. It's Foursquare. It's Foursquare. Give Adam the floor. Foursquare and WH whatever. Sony WH-1000XM Foursquare. No way. God. Way to get there, guys. Way to get there. Five years of reviewing headphones for this moment. That was almost really painful.

1:44:43So well done. That was the tiebreaker? No. I have a tiebreaker, even though Markhavid won this round. We did. If they get it wrong and we steal, technically we're then tied. Yeah. And then I don't have a tiebreaker. at the time just ask chat gpt for one okay funny story i did ask chat gpt to start this and it was horrible it gave me all these things and i went that's not how this game works can you make them better and it had like a total meltdown it said you're right i should be doing it more like this and then it did it and then without even me prompting it said wait that's not right either and then did another section then said this still isn't right i need to be more and did like six sections of it correcting itself and still none of them were any good.

1:45:28You got infinite loops somehow. Basically, it would just kept doing two totally different things and then the answer was two things next to each other. That's hilarious. It was pretty bad. But it was how I tried. Sick. So do you want to do the tiebreaker? Yeah. This is how we're going to do the tiebreaker for just fake points. Okay. I'm going to say it out loud. The first team to say it wins. Gets five points. No. I have a proposition for another way to do it okay both teams have a whiteboard and a pen in front of them no because i need um the enunciation needs to be correct okay okay never mind say it out loud so the first the first team to say it out loud gets the point oh correctly i need it to be perfect okay so i apologize in advance to everyone listening to us i'll talk over each other for about 60 seconds okay here's what i'll do you guys talk to each other but whoever says final answer first then they'll say it after that and I will pick that person.

1:46:24All right, ready. Let's do it. This is extremely specific so please listen carefully. More specific than WXM Yes and no. WXM wireless headphones. All right, ready? All right. The rating that shows a device is completely dust tight and protected from submersion up to one meters for 30 minutes ends the current most popular children's meme. One meter for 30 minutes? What is IP67? Ingress protection 67. Final answer, what is Ingress protection 67? You didn't say final answer. You didn't say final answer, damn it! What is IP67? No, but and a second time. The correct answer. Final answer, what is Ingress protection 67?

1:47:08The correct answer is IP67? Oh my God. I hate this. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. What? We are never going to get that, right? Well, the benefit to us is that I was just looking up IP ratings and then saw six, seven dice each other. I was like, I have to do this. I hope that us doing this killed that meme. I think it's been dead for a while. Always has been. Another dead meme. All right. Wow. Well, I'm going to go. That has not been it because we still have to do trivia. We have to go back to regular trivia. That was fun, right? I had a really fun time doing that. Thank you. I still think that the comments will be on our side.

1:47:54Yeah. I think this was rigged against us. But it's fine. It's fine. We'll check the comments. Okay. So mad I got G flex. Let's pause and reorganize and we'll be back for the regular trivia at the end of the episode starting. Whoa. Okay. We're back. Time to do the actual trivia for this episode. Let's get into it. fan edition trivia fe alright guys LTPO is an Apple thing I did not know it was an Apple thing if I had asked that as a trivia question would you have gotten that right nope damn well Samsung's version of LTPO is called what and it's like a silly thing it's a very silly word

1:48:43it's a word huh It's a word. Do you want another hint? A word? It's a word. Well, it's an acronym, but it's a word. Like, it reads out pretty obviously as a word. And...

1:49:01I can't think of a hint that's not, like, super obvious, you know? I have no idea. There's one pancake-themed hint I can kind of think of. All right. Yeah, I don't know. I think we're all wrong. Yeah. I wrote, yeah. Wait, sorry. I'm sorry, Marquez. What did you write? I wrote dynamic refresh rate. No. Yeah. I wrote Bix BPO. And what does the PO stand for? No, I'm just kidding. I didn't write anything. The correct answer is HOP. It is called a HOP screen. And HOP stands for hybrid oxide and polycrystalline silicon. Polycrystalline silicon is one word. no but they just called it hop because it's easier I wish all abbreviations worked like that you just take out all the letters you don't want they kind of do that hops is also a thing hops like in beer I don't know if Samsung would do that actually they would Koreans I don't think I've ever heard that before Koreans like beer learn something new I already forgot Quick update on the score Marquez with 10 Andrew with 10 David with 6 Can we go back to Marcavid please?

1:50:23Marcavid Next question The media center remote that Marquez Made a video on 16 years ago And the company that I am obsessed with Go And you need to get every letter Perfect Marquez knows this and we don't

1:50:47Wait this is not the question you asked before Yep it's the same game This is not what you asked before though Nope it is not The media center remote The media center remote And the company I'm obsessed with Like Come on man What is it Huh Come on man What was the question before I don't remember Marquez's I know that I wrote does this count enough HP Pavilion Teenage Engineering I don't know I don't know how to count I'm not literally Marquez we're not salty you're salty I don't know how to combine these so I don't know if this is right but I wrote HP Pavilion DV7 Teenage Engineering there it is not right though because he wrote TNT no wrong then I couldn't fit in.

1:51:41No one gets a point. Look at that. Okay, anyway. Thank God. To the real question. Oh, that was fake? Yeah. Well, I would have given you the point if you had asked. Well, I kind of got. Okay, okay. Whatever. What was Teenage Engineering's first product they ever made? Your mom. Oh. Got him. They were playing cards in the 1800s.

1:52:04It was actually a rice cooker. Yeah. Sony. Uh, um, here we go. I feel, I knew this at one point. Yeah, because it was a previous question. It was in Slack a while ago, probably. Oh yeah, I definitely put it in Slack. Yeah. All right. Flip him and read. What do you got? Are we about to get unactuallyed again by Teenage Engineering? That would be really funny. Yeah, we're all probably wrong. I wrote a desk. Nope. I wrote a pencil. No. That'd be sick to write. That would be cool. I'm probably, I hope I'm closest. A radio receiver. wrong but you are closest because one of the products they debated doing was a clock radio but instead they actually did a lamp oh yeah the lamp the lamp lamp yeah i was not lamp i love all right hopefully now we for sure won't forget that teenage engineering started with a lamp and next week's question we're all wrong we should just keep having this week until we all get it right anyway well like we said we might not have gotten it right but we did learn something so that's for sure useful right thanks for watching this episode thanks for listening and for playing along of course in our trivia segment we have a lot of fun with those see you soon in the next episode in November it's November now Yeah, it's November now.

1:53:28I know. Okay. Okay. Wait for a minute. It's produced by Adam Malina and Alice Rovin. We're part of the Fox Media Podcast Network and our Tracher music was created by Vainstil. Bingo. Let's go.

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