Waveform VS Vergecast Trivia at WWDC

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1:31All right. Welcome. This is Verge and Waveform. Trivia extravaganza. You probably might not know my name if you're on the Vergecast feed. I am Adam Alina, the producer of Waveform. I'm Ellis Rovin, the other producer of Waveform. And we are going to pit the hosts of our two podcasts together today. How are you guys feeling? Terrified. It was good and now it's bad. They were only asking you guys. Yeah, because this idea was so much better five minutes ago. I feel great. Too late to back up. This is great. It's really sitting next to like a hardened competitor like Marika. It's like your confidence really drops.

2:07I will say he is extremely competitive. He's been plotting for weeks on this. And we only found out about it like a week ago. But he knew somehow. Been researching just various things. So if you've never listened to our trivia game before, we do things in a pretty not unusual way. We're going to pose a question. You guys each have a whiteboard. Excuse me. Let me backpedal a little bit. We have three categories of questions for you tonight. Each category, each team will select one contestant to answer all the questions in that category. After you figured out your answer, write it on your whiteboard, flip it around, say it aloud, and we'll award you points or not.

2:45How are we feeling? Ready to go? I'm ready. Yes. All right. With that, let's kick off some trivia. Oh, my God. Trivia. Yeah, dude. Let's go. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. The first category is... Were you paying attention? Were you paying attention? Questions about the minutiae of WWDC 2023. Oh, we're so... I wish you'd make that decision. You bet I would. Wait, so just like details? We have to pick our fighters, right? Yeah, so you guys need to pick... Who do you want to answer this question? I love the idea of this being David v. David. Yeah. Let's do it. We're allowed to confirm. Were you paying attention?

3:25Over here. All right. Were you paying attention? can't stop us wait david were you paying attention i think so okay i was live blogging which means i was not like brain like water just everything came out into my fingers and immediately the problem david is we were all live i know all right i'm ready what's your excuse it's hard wait andrew did you remember do you want to show i was capturing you being upset at the mac pro not coming i think i was paying attention but the hard thing is we don't know the other categories David, I've heard a lot of excuses. Let's go. David be David. Let's lock it in.

3:55Go. David be David. Who will be the best David? All right. All right. First question. Oh, God. How does the new Compass app show Waypoint altitude to users? Write it down. Flip them. How does the new Compass app... Why is he writing already? What's going on over there? I mean, I don't know if this is correct, but I have an idea. I don't understand. All right. I'm going to give you... Oh, you don't understand the question. That sounds like a you problem. but that's true. Hit me with it one more time. The new Compass app on the watch now displays the altitude of your waypoints. How does it visually express that altitude to the user?

4:33I see. I like that, David. Five. I'm correct. It's lines. You guys should have had this done a long time ago. One. Let's flip. What you got? Pop-up bubbles. 3D space. Those are technically the same answer. I'll give it to you. We'll say correct. So you each get one for both of us? Correct. Both? That feels great. Pop up. The answer we had bring down was the height of the stock, but both of those seem to smash. What? What does that even mean? It's one of those games. All right. Cool. Now I know what I mean. Yeah, all right. All right. All right. Settle down. Settle down. This is my game. This is my game.

5:10All right. Let's go. All right. All right. I think neither of us should have gotten that, but I'll take it. What is the stock? Stock? Listen, listen. We're going to be great on a curve here. All right. Ready? Craig mentioned a new machine learning function coming to the home screen of iPad OS. What was it?

5:32Coming to the home screen. Are you staring blankly at each other? There was a widget. Someone wasn't paying attention. David, I think we paid the same amount of attention. I missed the question. He's right. I also missed the question. Apparently, I wasn't paying attention. Three. Oh. Two. Faster. What are your answers? You gotta write, you gotta write. Okay. Let's see it guys. I've got multiple timers. Multiple timers? It's suggested apps in the spotlight search. Oh, is that on the home screen? That might be an acceptable answer. Yes. The answer we were looking for was frame interpolation on live photos.

6:12Wait, that's the one where he was like, earth looks amazing at this scale and he was holding an 11 inch iPad. How did they get that right then? Because I believe that is machine learning to do the smart stacks. Unless it's not on the home screen. I would not. You do? It's a swipe away, but we'll give it to you. I don't think I should have gotten that. Machine learning? Because I got it. Machine learning? I don't think that's machine learning. That's a Markov chain of best. So we'll take it back. Wait. Did you take it back? He told you to take it back. David's all about to take it back. Yeah. I don't deserve that.

6:42I don't think so either. Thank you. This would be chaos. I don't want this. There's a weird third David team on the stage right now. Yeah, we should form our own team. David's against each other. Next question. Let's make our own team. What was the color of the first 15-inch MacBook Air that they showed in the presentation? The first one? The first one when they announced it. 15-inch. And this, again, is the 15-inch MacBook Air. Yeah, the 15-inch. Dang. Five. Dan is very confidently whispering. Three. Two. One. Flip them and read, boys. What do you got? I put black. Starlight. I think it's Starlight.

7:18Read them one at a time, please. Black. That's not even a hard answer. Like 20 times right next to it. That is correct. I was wrong anyway. Finally, the Davids have been split apart again. Wow, this is bad. Black is a hardcore answer. There are four possible answers, and you picked a fifth. I would like to point out that there are zero Apple products named Black. Yeah, Space Grey, Midnight. Were you mouth-ing it to me? I was saying midnight. So you're saying the wrong answer. I was wrong, but at least it was an answer. At least it was in the circle. I would have guessed. Anyway, whatever. It probably was starlight, and then I was like, I don't know.

7:57It doesn't matter. It was. They said it was right. All right, all right, all right. We gave you the smart stack point back. I'm really not re-watching this two-and-a-half-hour keynote. During WWDC 2023, what made Craig exclaim, we truly live in a world of wonders? Okay. Wow, Dan's on it. Five, four, three, two, one. That was a good credit. Let them read. Multiple timers. Wave, David? Yeah, multiple timers. Okay. Multiple timers. Wave, Dave. Good job. Excellent job. My pen is barely working. Do you have that other pen? Yeah, what happened? This pen is not working. That's the first one I've been confident about.

8:39Yeah, with my feet. If my shoes were off, this would be easier. I wouldn't have gotten that one. Just saying. David, you can just pick up the marker David, take off your shoes Oh my god I didn't know you showed so many pratfalls Sorry audio listeners, you're passing a marker down Okay, next question If I used my toes, it would have been In the intro where there's a man chasing the bubble What were the final words that appeared on the screen? Oh, the bubble Dream it Dream it, chase it, blank What were those last words? I thought that was going to be multiple choice five four three two one flip them and read i'm wave david what do you got this says make it happen wow i believed marquez coding yeah oh my god that's a level of paying attention well i just thought i thought it was so funny that it stuck in the mind yeah we still have three uh are we looking for an easier question or a harder question easier easier yeah okay easier

9:50the next point should be can you pick up a marker with your feet my shoes were off i have very opposable toes oh my god how many pro display xdrs can the new mac studio support I've never seen Marques lean over faster in my entire life. Everyone on Twitter was asking who is going to use this many XDRs and I was like, Marquette. Studio Pro. Pro display XDRs, please. Oh yes, the Mac Studio, that is correct. I'm pretty sure I'm still there. Five, four, three, two, one. Wave, David, what do you got? Six. What is that number? I said six. It was an eight. I also said six. Two correct answers from the Davids.

10:40Was it 10 million? Can we dock off like a quarter of a month for not being able to write a six? That's the tiebreaker. If we tie at the end, we lose for that six. We turned an eight into a six because the Mac Pro does eight. And we knew that. When I draw with my hands, my hands cramp up. I just kind of... You should draw with your feet. That's a great idea. That's a different show. The score? We should cut that out. That's the regular waveform show. Verge cast five, waveform three. That's right. All right. Next question. We need to make moves here. We have more time, yeah. Harder answer now? Let's really think about this one.

11:12Was that the easy one or the hard one? You want me to? Yeah. Let's do two more. Okay. Next question. Oh, God. Apple added advanced metrics and features for two sports on the Apple Watch with their own slides. What were they? You got it, right?

11:29Wait. Clarification? Yeah. Were they native apps or third-party apps? Native apps. Excellent question.

11:41Five, four, three, two, one. Flip them and read. Let's go verge, David. Is this like half points? Hiking and cycling. Okay. Is hiking a sport? I don't know, but that's what they had it at. If you do it hard enough. Bad take, Andrew. David, what did you say? I had a different answer. I said cycling and hiking. Oh, good. Very nice. Yes. This is the last question of this round, and I'm going to hit you guys with a doozy. David, I just want you to know, I think we're both doing a really good job. What is going on here? That David's doing way better. He's trying to trick you into getting this wrong.

12:16You do sportsmanship at the end. But is he doing real sportsmanship or just me up because he's already doing better than me? What studio monitors were in the background of the opening shot of the opening cinematic of WWDC23? What studio monitors? I will accept a model number or a brand. Wow. Wow. Were you paying attention? Oh, yeah. I remember that one. Five, four, three, two, one. Flip him and read. Wave, David. What do you got? Are you writing right now? Yeah. Okay. David, I'm waiting for an answer. For you, that's okay. Genelec. What? Oh, wait. No, we changed our answer. It's too late. My answer is the ones Marquez has.

13:04No. The correct answer was KRK rockets. Were they really? They were. They can be noticed by their distinctive yellow circles. Right, right. Yellow circles. I thought they meant displays. Can we have five rounds? In the interest of time, we're going to keep it rolling. All right, the second category for today's show is G Fuel Flavors. That's right. We are going to read you a G Fuel flavor, and you have to tell me if it is a real flavor or if I made it up in my hotel room last night. I don't like that you're so confident about being ready for this. Dan, Eli? We already have, okay. I mean, I'll take the category.

13:52I don't know what G Fuel is. How did you guys make those sounds? Did Alex do that? It's amazing. At like 11 o 'clock last night, he was just recording into his microphone and showing you what he's coming up with. Ellis, can we please get a definition of G Fuel, and can I have it used in a sentence, please? G Fuel is a powder that becomes a liquid, or you either buy it as a liquid, and it makes you game better. That's very generic. Can I have a language of origin, please? I unfortunately cannot enlighten you. It's New Jersey. All right. The first flavor of G Fuel we have today is blood, sweat, and tears.

14:29It is a cinnamon candy flavor. Oh, wait. We never picked a contestant for this. Oh, you swapped it. It's Andrew versus Dan. I take it back. All right. Blood, sweat, and tears. Cinnamon candy flavor. Real or fake? Three, two, one. Do you want our help? One. I trust Andrew entirely with this because I have no idea. I got this, but I don't like knowing that I got this. I hope I got it. Does this group consume G Fuel? No. I like making fun of G Fuel, which is why I know more about it. Oh, yeah, sure. Okay. Yeah. You got to know you're out of here. No one look at my background. I'm upset for that. I got you.

15:06All right. Until it's not. Real or fake? Revealing. Fake. I'm going with real. Wow. It is a real flavor. Andrew, what? Oh, no. Oh, my God. We're drinking. I think Andrew is tossing the segments. We don't know how much he likes G Fuel. All right. Because you're going to really have to. What is this last category? Jesus. Thank you. The second flavor is Amnesty. Amnesty is a piña colada flavor. That's fake. I'm sorry. If it's real, it should be fake. That can't be real. That's a good way to think of G Fuel, though. That's true. If you think it should be fake, it's probably five. I think the entire concept of G Fuel, if it's real, should be fake.

15:48I'm ready. Two. one flip. I have real. I'm going with fake. Amnesty is a fake flavor. That's like Kendall Jenner in the Pepsi. It's very obvious that gamers do not drink pina coladas. That's a good point. That's a great context. They'd rather drink cinnamon candy versus a pina colada. We're getting slayed. We've been giving Andrew a lot of crap and Dan's just over here getting all the answers. I just want to point that out. The next flavor is brimstone. Brimstone is a crayon raspberry flavor. That sounds real. That feels real. But Ellis is also really good. Write whatever. I'm saying that out.

16:30Okay. Three, two, one. Look at the way he's holding his card on a plane. Flip him around. Andrew, you said. Why do we keep going? I have fake. Oh my God. I went with real. My God. We already lost this. We had to have five rounds. Brimstone is exactly the sort of word that if you're saying. It's targeting a teenage gamer. I think so. What was the flavor, though, again? You said fake. Brimstone was crayon raspberry. That sounds like too good of a flavor. No, that is perfectly targeted. That's really cramberry? It sounds like something you hear in the Doom game when you beat the boss. No, I agree with that completely.

17:02I think that I thought he was tricking us with that. Cranberry for gamers? Oh, he thought it was too real. I think that sounds too much like a nice cock. That's all right.

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21:36The next flavor is Type O, like the blood type. Type O is a passion fruit flavor. Why? That's actually, this is the hardest one. This could go otherwise. I think that's fake. G Fuel passion fruit. I think that's fake. I feel like at this point, so I can blame you, dude. Wait, well, one. Flip. I'm going with fake. Type O is a real flavor of G Fuel. Weird. I thought it was just too on-brand. How? You can't tell this because I'm brown, but I'm like, embarrassed. I'm like blushing about stupid this entire situation. Alright, the final question. Why do we use this for one of the three segments? This is so much talking about G Fuel.

22:19The final flavor of G Fuel for this round is Bee Sting. Bee Sting is a fruity cereal with a dash of honey. I think that's real. You know like when you're watching an embarrassing TV show and you have to leave the room? I want out of this room so that the next one has to be good is bee sting a real flavor flip them around going with fake fake bee sting is fake but there is a flavor called scorpion sting wait wait wait he both said it right he meant to do this there you go my bad guys I got a point nice let's go I don't feel so bad anymore I can't believe I ran that unbelievable great job I never heard of G fuel a well-disguised knowledge of g-fuel over there we kind of have to have more rounds because we didn't tell you this but dan starts raw g-fuel

23:18this next round is a favorite of ours here on waveform trivia it is our audio round oh boy it is our audio round this shit we are going to play you a famous sound yes and you have to tell us its source. So as an example, if you heard... Windows XP, baby. Exactly. I would not accept Windows, but I would accept Windows XP. You do not need to be as specific as Windows XP startup sound. Windows XP would be enough. Oh, just like a general... Platinum home. Exactly. But if you had said Windows, that is not specific. You know, you just find the Windows XP startup sound in the Apple office. Home edition.

23:57The security security is coming. The SWAT team is here. Right, right, right. they're going to be coming a lot today alright this is Marquez versus Neelai let's do it the first sound is David's very upset with me oh yeah it's easy yep I'm not upset with you I'm not I wrote Netflix to doom I need to write bigger that is correct I also wrote Netflix I love it if I had gotten a perfect score then I'd be upset with you It's a slippery slope. I don't know a lot of the media ones. Also, I would have random number generator would have done just as well. The next sound is...