WWDC 2026: Is Siri Actually Good Now?

11:16Marques Brownlee:yeah they'll be in the audience just like a fan. Should we be making a new Ferrari by then? I really hope not. Yeah, okay. Well, I did tweet a video of, six years ago, of Tim Cook saying thank you 25 times. So if you actually want to see it, even though it wasn't on the live stream, you can head to my Twitter. But we got to get into the actual announcements. Yeah. We're breaking this out. The way that we're going to handle this is because it was a crazy, this is one of the years where there's just like 8 ,000 little updates. So the way that we're going to break this down is that we're going to go through the platform changes, which is the Apple Watch, the iPhone, the iPad, the Mac, all that kind of stuff.

11:53And then we are going to go into the...

11:57David Imel:Parental safety and Siri AI. Parental safety stuff. And then we're going to do Siri separately because this year is a big Siri year. It's the Siri part two electric boogaloo. I just want to say I was close. I said they would call it Siri OS. They called it Siri AI. They called it Siri AI, which is very... Sure. Very close. Six total letters.

12:19Marques Brownlee:Different, but physically very close. True. Yeah, so we're going to handle Siri completely separately, but I think first we should just go through the individual platform updates, and I specifically stripped the Siri stuff from the platform updates because we're going to handle it all together. Sure. Yeah, a lot of people have been describing this as like the snow leopard of, you know, it's a bunch of small incremental combing through, attention to detail, performance increases, like no big design overhaul, no huge features really needed. Just fix the buggy crap. Yeah. You know, like you've been building all this wonderful new stuff, but it's been kind of a show behind the scenes.

12:57Marques Brownlee:Like fix that part, you know? So now much more efficiencies, much more. We heard things like faster app opening, faster file loading, faster indexing and things like that.

13:09David Imel:My favorite part about that is did you notice when she came up and she's talking about all these things that are faster and has this big list that keeps scrolling. And I was like, oh man, it's in alphabetical order and there's still an F. Then I realized every single time it scrolls, it's just because it starts with faster. It's like a list of like 50 things that just all start with faster. And I welcome that.

13:30Marques Brownlee:That's great. I want everything to feel super snappy. 80 % faster airdrops is like, all right. Yeah, great. Up to, obviously. Maybe once in a while it'll be 80 % faster. Oh yeah, by the way, we should mention Rufus is here. Oh yeah, hey. Hey. else is on vacation yeah look at me he's so i'm i'm happy to see that stuff yeah so so if you guys know what snow leopard is i i was looking more into some it's an old mac os version that was the follow-up to osx leopard where's snow leopard in california um it's in lake tahoe so anyway there were the tagline for snow leopard i just wanted to call this out was zero new and zero new features, which is very funny.

14:12Hell yeah. Embrace it.

14:15Marques Brownlee:The thing you already know and love just works better.

14:19David Imel:Trust me.

14:20Marques Brownlee:They shouted out things like improved CRISPR icons, matching corner radii. That's what people complain about all the time. It's huge. I haven't downloaded the beta yet, but you know that thing where you go to airdrop someone and then you select all the people to airdrop to and you're about to click one and then it just shifts them all over and the one you click is not the one you wanted and it shifts them all over again. The worst. This better be one of those improvements. They better have fixed that. It's supposed to fix it. They better have fixed that. All right, so number one, when you first boot up your new iPhone with iOS 27 or your Mac, there are now liquid glass sliders.

14:57So you can decide whether or not you want it to be fully glassy, little in the middle, or very opaque. Did you try it at all?

15:06David Imel:I did. am i correct in saying they said for people who want it more transparent there's ultra clear so that slider now it's not more than before it's like just before okay so the middle is is not

15:20Marques Brownlee:in between so like if i were to compare today's liquid glass with the middle of the slider for tomorrow's liquid glass i would say it's between the original what they shipped at the very beginning that was like really translucent with what they shipped later where they made it a little more opaque. It's like in the middle of those. Okay. Yeah. I will say I love this. Yeah. Yeah, this is the thing. I feel like people mocked this up on Twitter for like months after it came out. Like, give us a slider. We just want to adjust it. And then the fact that you can make it more clear or less clear is hilarious because there are people on both sides of the fence.

15:53Marques Brownlee:So there it is.

15:55David Imel:They did say for some users who would like liquid glass to be even more clear and others perform a more tinted appearance. which remember they sort of pulled it back. So it's like pre, it's like alpha. However, however, there is a universal change that makes it more readable. And that is that they basically sharpened the edges of all of the liquid glass interfaces. So anything that has the translucency on it, it's got sharpening around the perimeter, which just makes it easier to read things. It makes it easier to see the difference between the liquid glass interface and what's below it. It's better across the board by far.

16:31So that is good. Good. Yeah. As you mentioned, Marques, apps launch up to 30 % faster. This is especially obvious on older iPhones because this OS does go back to the iPhone 11, which is really cool.

16:44Marques Brownlee:Can I just say, again, making older iPhones much faster without adding any new features is a great software update. Yes. The iPhone 11 is how old now? I mean, that's an older, that's seven years old, that phone? Yeah. That's a long time ago to be getting a software update to make it dramatically faster. Thumbs up for that.

17:03David Imel:Big thumbs up. The CPU scheduler will go all the way back to iPhone 11 as well. And they said that was one where it was like, this is what it does, but it will probably be helping those phones way more than the newer phone. Yes. Yes. We're also getting automatic Wi-Fi to cellular switching to be much faster, which is good. They basically mentioned that, you know, you're in your house, you walk into your garage, but then your phone doesn't want to connect to your cellular. but it's also on too weak of a Wi-Fi connection, so you can't actually start your music fast enough. Now, when it detects that you're on a very weak Wi-Fi connection, it'll just instantly switch to cellular.

17:35Great.

17:35David Imel:That happens at a gym here every single time. All the time. I have to just manually swap to data instead. Yes. Okay. Genmoji got overhauled. Okay, we can skip this part. I specifically fleshed this out, baby, because I love it. These are some good things, and then Genmoji has like six Genmoji. Okay, but it's a completely different interface now. Like they totally changed the Genmoji interface. Okay. And, and Genmoji used to make your phone like catch on fire. And now it, it doesn't at all. Does it still send as a sticker? Um, well, okay. That's the only thing that matters. It's different. It's not a sticker.

18:09Well, you can create a sticker, but a Genmoji is, it's like sort of in between a sticker and an emoji. It sends as an image. It's revolutionary. It's like a, it's a scalable image vector file. But it sends as a sticker. Shut up, Adam. Trying to make it sound useful as a scalable image vector file is hilarious. Okay, well, before you had to select a person to use as a base, and then you had to mix it with an emoji. And it was just weird and not good. I still loved it, but it was still not good. Now, you can use any image, and it will basically make a Genmoji of that image, which is crazy.

18:42David Imel:I love all these, too. Like Emoji Kitchen in Gboard. Freaking awesome. But they send us images, and it kind of ruins the comedic effect when a giant... No, well, I mean, I could try to send this to you, Adam. Do you want to see what happens? Yeah, I'm going to send it to you, Adam. I'm not on iOS, by the way. I know. So it's definitely coming in as a JPEG? We're going to make JPEG. Okay, this is the new Genmoji UI, right? It's way better. You can start recording. I'll screen record. Thank you. It looks very like AI prompt. You look like an AI prompt. Well, I probably will look cooler than that Genmoji.

19:19David Imel:It also says emoji. Describe an emoji. Let's say I'm going to make this. This is me as Link from Zelda. And let's say... Poreshadowing. Dude, copyright is just not a thing. Yeah. I'm not even describing anything. I'm just developing a Genmoji. It is. It's got a little bubble around it. Look at this. That's pretty bad. Actually, I don't think that's that bad, except for the fact that... It actually did use me with my stick Navi and everything. The biggest issue is it looks like it's really poorly cut out from a background, even though it's a generated emoji. Why does it have like... So it looks that way at first, but when you actually send it, it doesn't go through like that.

19:58Okay. Describe a change though. What would you like to change about this? You want to mix it with a... Get rid of the crappy white outline. We can mix it with a real emoji. Let's mix it with the crying laughing. Did you say beaver? Beer. There was a beer. Oh, let's do crying laughing and beer. Wait, is there a beer emoji? It was right before it.

20:13David Imel:I know that we're spending a lot of time on this. Here, this is a cheers emoji. Okay, let's see what happens. Boom, baby. I'm so sorry, listeners. listeners this is a and okay interactive there's a little liquid glass thing that goes around oh you can't all right no beer anyway okay that's fine we'll end it there there's a couple i don't want to all i gotta say is i love him genmoji's overhauled i know a lot of you guys were waiting for david really just sold genmoji for everyone i mean way improved performance like multi-element designs interactive editing it's pretty cool speaking of that whole image generating model Image Playground got revamped with photorealistic generation and new editing tools.

20:52I'm pretty sure this is sort of using the same stuff as like Nano Banana, you know? It's not directly Nano Banana because none of this is directly Gemini. I'm not sure. That's what they say. Slop Generator just got way more. Yeah, Slop Generator. I actually did write that down.

21:09David Imel:Yeah, you wrote Slop like 14 times. Oh, yeah. it'll also suggest slop wallpapers for you which is fun and not fun slop papers look under your seat it's more slop it's more slop okay okay you get slop okay we have new photo editing tools within the photos app okay these are interesting these are actually interesting and i got to like talk to them about how they work and it's really interesting it uses a lot of vision pro technology actually. So the Vision Pro was not for nothing.

21:40Marques Brownlee:Okay. So there's three new photo editing tools. Yes. The first one will, is not new, but it's improved cleanup. You've probably heard of cleanup improved by the item in the front or the background and it deletes it. We've seen a lot of comparisons of people like comparing it to like a Samsung phone where the Samsung phone reconstructs your face and the Apple one doesn't do it well. Yeah. Seems like this one's much better. So cleanup is better. The second one is extend. So if you have a shot that you want to add to the side or top of, you know I wish you were standing further away or you don't have an ultra wide because you have an iPhone air you want to get more of the background you can extend an image up to 25 percent on any edge and it'll generate more of what it thinks the rest of the photo would look like now I think you can then just take that and extend it again and then just take that and extend it again so the 25 percent limit is for each pass but uh eventually it's gonna it's just gonna get worse

22:32David Imel:It's like a game of telephone with the edges at that point.

22:35Marques Brownlee:Yeah. The examples they showed us were like a person in the center of the frame perfectly. And it's just like background and you just add more background. Yeah.

22:43David Imel:It's funny because I feel like the most useful that would be is when you're not centered and maybe you want to upload to something like Instagram, which is square. And you're like, yeah, I just want to not have to crop in order to center myself, but just add some stuff that no one on Instagram cares about. If the left side of the frame is 15 percent. I have tried this a few times and we have to give a disclaimer that this is all beta software legally. Yeah. But I took a photo of V song from the verge and her arm was slightly cut off here and she was sitting on a on a chair and her sweater was like hanging off the back of the chair.

23:14And part of the sweater was cut off and her arm was cut off. So I extended it out. It like added arm pixels and it looked very, very realistic. and the part of the chair that it added, it also had her sweater draping along the back of the chair. It looked very, very realistic.

23:31Marques Brownlee:Sounds, I've seen, I mean, the examples look good. I think I'm going to try it with the not, I mean, it'll be best with just pattern background. So it just makes more pattern, but I'm going to try it with all the other things like arms and legs and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

23:44David Imel:Extending images in like Photoshop or whatever is always either like, holy cow, that was incredible and I did no work or what on earth are you trying to add to this photo? Just added a third arm.

23:54Marques Brownlee:Do you think you can use this to make yourself look taller? Probably. Who needs leg lengthening surgery? Yeah, it depends on what it decides to do. Extend my legs. Yeah, because you can't tell it directly what to do in this version.

24:07David Imel:But I guess if you're wearing shorts and it cuts off at the shins, will it just keep adding shins longer and longer down? I think it'll probably add feet.

24:15Marques Brownlee:At some point, it has to decide there's feet. Yeah, if I just keep extending it, it's going to draw legs until it's going to figure out which shoes it wants to add. So that's, yeah, that is extend. Fun for changing aspect ratios. Lastly, there is this rotating feature. What is it called? Reframe, reframe. Spatial reframe. Yeah, spatial reframe. Okay, spatial reframe is really trippy. So the idea is you took a photo where you actually want to change the place you took the photo from in 3D space. You want to rotate over a little bit or up or down a little bit, and it will use generative fill and, like you said, the spatial reconstruction.

24:54Marques Brownlee:Because when you looked at a photo and turned it 3D with the Vision Pros tech, it was a pretty convincing 3D reconstruction. So it's generating pixels in between to try to adjust your perspective. I would love to test this a lot. I really don't know how good this could possibly be. It's pretty good. It's really impressive when you're just moving around in the preview and it looks like you're literally warping and like if someone was sitting in a photo and like looking to the side of the camera and then you just move it over so that you're in their eye line, suddenly you're making eye contact in a photo where they weren't making eye contact.

25:30Marques Brownlee:Trippy. Yeah. But it'll do it. And then it'll reconstruct the background, reconstruct the angles of the face, et cetera. Yeah. And I don't know. That should be interesting. The way that the Vision Pro does and the way that the iPhones now do it is they do Gaussian splatting, which is basically they recreate a 3D scene using Gaussian splats. and then it uses that sort of 3d model to do generative fill on the areas yeah um it's really

25:56David Imel:realistic it's quite realistic it feels like one of those things that like you know you see it and you want to test it and you test the extreme of it and you're going to find all of the issues with it yeah but when i think of it i think of like when i've taken a photo of like a corner of a building and i was like one degree off oh you know like it should probably be ultra minor like adjustments where you're just like, I was just like this little tiny angle off of the thing I was trying to frame in with this. And like a little tiny tweak can probably, it's almost content when you're filling it in that.

26:31Which to be fair, like there's in Lightroom and Photoshop, there's tools where you can just auto align and it'll spatially align things anyway. Yeah.

26:39Marques Brownlee:So you don't, it's just not as pretty to like, you can dry it with your hand and watch it turn someone's head, which is crazy. they did mention it when I first saw this I thought this was just going to be photos like shot with the latest couple of iPhones because you have more depth information but they said it's any photo from any camera I don't know if it means it's better from iPhones or if it's just the same quality from they told me that they trained most of the image model that does the reconstruction on iPhone photos but they have other photos that they also trained it on I tried this with a photo I took on my x100 and it was a better result than a photo I tried on an iPhone interesting interesting i might have just been because it's a higher resolution probably was a higher resolution probably was a little sharper that might have to do with it yeah but they so you can like you can use one finger to sort of like move kind of pivot around the object but if you use two fingers you can physically move the camera up and down so strange which is very strange and then again you can only go a certain amount but then you can save and then do it again go further and go further and i just feel like i want to take like a picture of someone like blowing out candles and then just go to the back of their head and see all the people in front of them.

27:43David Imel:The thousand upload project.

27:46Marques Brownlee:Damn, wait. Wow. That's a good idea. It's a good short. Just keep rotating. Just see what it reconstructs on the other side. Can we 360 a person? Whoa. Okay, yeah, we're doing that. I want to do it with the legs also.

27:59David Imel:I think the leg thing is hilarious.

28:00Marques Brownlee:Definitely we'll do that with the legs. The legs will be fine.

28:02David Imel:Wempiana out of nowhere. So they changed the camera UI yet again. they now have three little settings at the top so you can change the format you can turn flash on and off and you can turn live photos on and off and then now they used to have the extra options in the top right now it's just more accessible near the shutter button which is interesting and now and we'll get to this later there's now a Siri mode so this is basically for visual intelligence because before you had to use camera control to access visual intelligence now you can just use the Siri mode within the camera app itself and you can still use camera control and you can still use camera control to access that.

28:39And the UI is way better than the last UI for visual intelligence was like one button and a little screen.

28:47Marques Brownlee:Chat with your photo. Very not well thought out. Okay, now Wallet is adding a create a pass feature so you can scan physical passes in the real world and create digital versions of them to keep in your Apple Wallet. I believe if they have NFC capability, you can also scan it and it'll become a digital NFC path which is pretty cool that's nice there's also uh the the menu thing or the receipt thing yes so if you have a receipt you can take a picture of it with the siri camera and then it will like itemize it and break it all out and then you can split the bill and then charge everyone with apple cash or something you have to use apple cash i did try this last night and it is actually a very cool ui because it semantic it like breaks down each individual item and it's like who got this item who got this item this is the exact price and then you put in the percentage of the tip that you put in and it splits it between everybody it's it's a

29:36David Imel:very good ui it is really cool to see that demo and like use it every once in a while but i don't

29:42Marques Brownlee:remember the last time i actually did something like that i do think this is a tech demo feature people never use it they always just take a picture and venmo each other but for the tech demo it's like oh that's cool that that worked it's cool yeah and i guess a more complicated

29:55David Imel:split check of a bunch of people getting all sorts of different levels everyone has apple cash That's the problem. Apple Cash is easy to connect to your bank account, but not a lot of people use it. But doesn't it also split it and just tell you the numbers and then you don't have to pay through it? You can just tell everybody this is how much it actually is?

30:12Marques Brownlee:This is something I wanted to do in my recap video, but I didn't have enough time to write it all in, but I think it would have been really clever. I wanted to do a Sherlock counter. And that is definitely an app in the App Store. Even Splitwise, I'm sure, would have had something like this where you just take a picture of the receipt and it just breaks it up and tells you how to pay. 100%. Sherlocked. There you go. Right there. Counter. One.

30:33David Imel:Here's one. I have another one for you where all of them are probably wrong. Taking pictures to calorie track items. Didn't they throw that in here too? It's not going to work. You can't tell what people are using or what's on this food. They're going to try. It's just never going to work. It's never going to be accurate. The reason it won't be accurate is because you just don't know how much oil that restaurant used. It's mostly about the oil. honestly a lot of times but like it could be a handful of almonds like this could be anywhere from four to like ten and like who knows yeah it's the fucking humane almonds the humane almonds i don't know what about this is never gonna work or a closed burrito a closed burrito as we talked about last time yeah uh okay big change passwords can now automatically fix themselves if they have compromised or weak credentials.

31:28This is crazy.

31:30Marques Brownlee:This to me was the biggest new feature. This is like agentic in a way. This is the most agentic new feature as well. So the way it works is the passwords app which for years it's already been telling you your passwords are weak, your passwords are compromised. If you have the same password in more than one site it'll tell you there's a weak password. So all of these have always been flagged before but people don't often do anything about it. This new passwords app will, if you decide to give it permission to, it will agentically go in to these websites one by one, log in, and change your password to a more secure password that it then saves and remembers so that it can log you in in the future.

32:07Marques Brownlee:So it's so polarizing because I posted about this. It's a good thing because it makes all of your passwords more secure, makes them like 30 characters long and alphanumeric and all this fun stuff. Yeah. But it also means it has to agentically go do that and you are now locked in. Not locked in, but much more likely to just keep using the passwords app.

32:28David Imel:Is there any way to export that?

32:30Marques Brownlee:Yes. Yeah, you can export. So you can go through and export and then save it to, you know, seven, what is it, one password? I use that. But like that, it's very clever what they've done with that. And I hope it works. That could be a Sherlock also. Could be a Sherlock as well. I mean, it's not fully, I don't know if any other app has done that exact feature where they will agentically go in and change that. But just as far as an agent going and acting on your behalf. I think this also requires, we'll get to the new Siri stuff later, but it requires the personal context of your email because most of these websites, when you change the password, will send you a one-time code.

33:03And then so it needs to know what that one-time code is so they can go back to the website, put the code in. Unless it's meta AI, then you just tell the AI, no, I don't have access to that email

33:12David Imel:and it resets the password. Well, I'm thinking, because like Megaphone makes us change our password every six months and I've forgotten it every single time. but like that's a you have to do a captcha every time you do it so would this be able to go through that feels like an immediate

33:29Marques Brownlee:I mean all okay every single one of the demos is good if it works but I have so many questions about what happens if it doesn't work and that is a good that is a good example of like what happens if there is a captcha

33:41David Imel:it probably just decides you can't do this when you go do it they showed a little UI of like showing all of your passwords and you select the ones that are compromised or weak and you said change these for me and over time it'll like light up green if it's changed it successfully yeah so maybe it'll just show the ones that it hasn't been able to change successfully yeah i know that google has like eight times introduced the feature where it can automatically unsubscribe from emails for you exactly because half the time every time it doesn't work i specifically tested this like a week ago because i was like okay i'm looking at this exact email that i got from this company yeah i'm clicking on subscribe and if it shows up again i'm gonna take note and it did do you You know, it's usually because those places then in their unsubscribe list are like, well, you can unsubscribe from sales or reminders or this.

34:29David Imel:And so like it's probably picking one slow because I want name them name and shame. Stickly furniture. I yeah, I've done the unsubscribe button in Gmail probably every other day for like the last two weeks. And I'm still getting emails. Well, I had a few years ago. I had an idea to do a bonus episode of does the unsubscribe button even work? And basically the answer was very boring because I spoke with the superhuman CEO, which now got purchased by Grammarly, which changes name to superhuman. Also, Mike, it's Sherlock's later in this episode. Yeah. But he was telling me that basically because of laws and stuff in different parts of the world, it are down.

35:04David Imel:There are laws. It comes down to the company that is running it to just do it correctly. Yeah. So it's like not a PR. Yeah. Like it's not a fun answer. It's just like, yeah, they just have to go do it or have something in place to do it. I guarantee you that my local, like my favorite restaurant sends me like 20 emails a week and I keep hitting on subscribe and they don't do it. And I want to be mad at them, but they are my favorite restaurant. So it's difficult.

35:28Marques Brownlee:I have a snail mail version of this and I'm way off topic, but I have this like clean energy company that like sends me mail, sends me the same please switch to this clean energy source piece of physical mail every couple weeks. Damn. And I have solar on my house. Like I don't need to do this. like please stop asking and I've I've tried to get off this list I've called them I've sent mail I've sent emails I've tried and I think the last time I tried they're like oh yeah it could take six to eight weeks to get you off the list it's been months I'm still on the list I got one today it's really wow right now it's just like clean energy something something I'll find the name because it works clean energy corporation I still get a paper pay stub oh yeah every time I get paid here we got one today it's on my desk right now and I have tried for a year to stop this.

36:20Marques Brownlee:Clean choice energy. Named and shamed. I got one today. That's like with Verizon. I have Fios and when you sign up they start sending you paper mail and then you can say I don't want to receive paper mail and then you receive a paper mail saying thanks for unsubscribing from paper mail.

36:37David Imel:At least it's the last one. At least it's fine. So many companies do that. They say that and then they send you a bunch of brochures anyway. I try and say like if your crap ends up in my mailbox I'm never using you ever. It's such a waste. Alright. Back to Apple. Apple Maps got Gaussian splatting in Apple Maps. It looks a little better in their demo. Higher quality. They keep saying Gaussian splatting. Isn't this just generative? No. You said that? You can generate a Gaussian splat. Well, not really. You have to take photos from a bunch of angles and then generate it. Yeah. Yeah.

37:14Marques Brownlee:Well, the Gaussian splat is just like, you could train a model on a bunch of Gaussian splats and you could generate them, which I'm sure they're doing some of. Yeah. But they're using mostly like satellite data and like flyover data and stuff. For maps. Yeah. For maps. Yeah. Yeah. So it looks a little bit better. They now have perimenopause and menopause tracking, which I know a lot about, added to Apple Health. New CarPlay features, including video apps in CarPlay now, which I think got added to Android Auto pretty recently. Yes. The new Android Auto has YouTube specifically. Yeah, YouTube. Is it still called Android Auto or did they change it to Google?

37:49It's still Android Auto. Not for long. For Google Drive. It's going to be Google Drive soon.

37:53Marques Brownlee:Shit. You can now share one phone number between two iPhones. One phone number? Between two, and they're both getting data and voice and everything? I don't know about that. They said that the carrier has to support it, though. Why would you want to do this? I'm confused. I don't know. I could see doing the opposite, putting two different phone numbers on.

38:12David Imel:So your open claw can have its own phone.

38:14Marques Brownlee:Well, you can do two different phone numbers.

38:16David Imel:Yeah. You joked. What'd you say? Wait, what'd you say? So your open claw can have its own phone. Call people? Or take calls for you. Jeez. My agent's in the corner. I don't know. Someone made a joke that's so you can have your iPhone Air for the weekend and your iPhone Pro for the weekday. Marques? Marques does switch the watches already. Hold on. Hold on.

38:42Marques Brownlee:wait a minute it's actually not terrible i don't know whatever so you can party in the back well if i'm going to if i'm going to dub dub i need the pro max and then when i go back to regular that's what i'm saying i mean i would love that because i love my air i might google that later yeah okay um they added independent alarms for independent volume for basically every volume finally thing oh my god this is another thing there's another thing like when you ask iphone users like what's the biggest annoyance with the iphone almost at the top of everyone's list is I just miss alarms sometimes because my alarm volume was zero because the last thing I watched I turned the volume down like it just doesn't work all the time.

39:19Marques Brownlee:When you wrote this

39:20David Imel:I thought you meant like individual alarms can have different you just mean that there's like a separate volume slider for alarms timers and all that.

39:28Marques Brownlee:Yeah the thing Android's had for a decade

39:30David Imel:I thought this was even further like I want this timer I have set to be this volume but this timer to be. There's always been a separate volume for like media and like alarm volume but alarm volume encompassed alarms, timers, and like every other little small thing. Yeah. Which is insane.

39:46Marques Brownlee:And they finally went and combed through the little things and I'm glad that this was big enough to make it through that comb. Big deal, big deal, big deal. This one's really fun. Shortcuts. You can now just describe the shortcut you want in natural language and it'll make it for you. Good AI. Which is very cool. We saw a bunch of demos of this. If you're a shortcuts fiend, this is going to be cool for you. And it just builds it in the shortcuts editor so you can edit it after the fact. So it builds it all. You can go in the editor and change stuff if you want. Yeah, and it'll sync to your Mac and you can also share the shortcut with other people.

40:18So pretty cool. Overhaul dictation, supposedly powered by Gemini-powered dictation. So that should correct spelling, punctuation, and capitalization. Basically, the dictation on iPhone should be way better.

40:29Marques Brownlee:Is that out right now? Is that in iOS 27? That's in 27, yes. It doesn't feel any better. It's only better on the phones with 12 gigs of RAM. So the most advanced improved on-device models are only on iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Pro. But is dictation in the advanced models? And dictation and one other thing are the, I was told, the only two things that are new in that super new advanced best on-device model. Wow. So if you don't have better dictation, it may be because that's one of the things that didn't make it if you don't have 12 gigs of RAM. Strange. Are you on not one of those two phones? No, I have a 17 Pro.

41:10Marques Brownlee:So it should be better. That's weird. It's not, should be. It's not much better. Yeah. I can't tell. I haven't seen enough yet, but I was like, not super. Yeah. This is a kind of random one. You can now have subscription bundles in the app store. So if you're a developer and you sell multiple apps, you can do a subscription bundle that comes with a bunch of your apps. You can also partner, do a little partnership with another developer and offer your app plus another developer's app for a bundle price. It is a bundle price. It's a collab. It's a collab. That's cool. Yeah, it's kind of cool.

41:45David Imel:Like a bundle of all the apps that are about to get Sherlocked from iOS 27. Please keep us alive bundle. You can now create calendar events with natural language. So you could just go into your calendar and say, lunch at Supernica with James at 3 p.m. And it'll add all the little details. Sherlocked counter is now two.

42:04Marques Brownlee:That's specifically Fantastical. Yeah. That's like one of the things a lot of these new calendar apps primary feature is that you can add things with natural language. Yeah. Add a repeating event and it just does it for you. There it is. Sharelock counter number two. Find my update they should have added a long ass time ago and I don't know how they didn't. You can now so they redesigned the find my UI a little bit. That's fine. But the big thing is it used to be that you could only share your live location for one hour until the end of the day or indefinitely. You can now set custom amounts of time to share your location.

42:34Wow, that's nice. My one week vacation. It is crazy that it took that long. Cool. You can now save any video frame as a photo. So if you stop in any video, you can just hit export as photo. That's something Android has had forever. So it's not major, but it's something.

42:52David Imel:That's nice. Shared albums in Apple Photos now support full resolution photos. I did not even realize they didn't before. And Android and Windows users can also contribute photos now. Could they really not before? Apparently not. so funny you just view it yeah i love shared albums ever since kids and having like nieces and nephews now every single one of my nieces or nephews or children has a shared album with all the grandparents all the uncles i wonder who's gonna adopt this because same thing in my family but we all use google photos even though it's like yeah google photos the default so i guess now they have this which is nice yeah but you know i don't know oh yeah you can now also set photo albums to expire after a certain period of time.

43:32I wish you could just do this with group chats because I don't freaking want to be in another group chat for indefinitely. Expire. Name it. Expire. Every time I make a temporary group chat I name it going to destroy after event temporary and then the three people. If you destroy it on your phone, does it destroy on everyone's phone? No, right? Probably not. You just leave it.

43:52Marques Brownlee:The group chat will self-destruct. Oh, you leave it. You leave it. Okay, the dual camera feature where you can record what is in front of you as well as your face is now available in FaceTime. I didn't realize this wasn't true before and it makes a lot of sense. So before in FaceTime, you had to just switch between your face and the thing that you were looking at, which was stupid. And it's very nice that you can actually, you know, do both at the same time now. I like that. When you pay with things online with Apple Pay, there is a much better UI now to select the card that you're using previously.

44:22And I've had to do this a million times. It's so complicated to like pick the right card because you have to scroll down to the bottom menu and then click like use different card, even though it was just a confusing UI before and they made it way better. So that's cool. They synced the step counts across the health and fitness apps. This was not synced before. It was annoying. It's a little things. Yeah, health and fitness. Like I think it was because like your Apple watch and your phone like recorded different step amounts and they would get out of sync. And then if you opened the fitness app, it would show a different amount of steps than the health app sometimes.

44:57Like they were tracking steps differently. which is really dumb so this is very much a snow leopard feature okay this one's kind of cool call context so this is like magic cue on the pixel when you call like an airline it'll know that you're calling the airline so it'll look through your email and pull up your confirmation number and put it on the screen this one is cool

45:19Marques Brownlee:if it works I can see lots of ways that it wouldn't work yes

45:22David Imel:they also at the end of it if I remember correctly had this weird way of saying like we're listening for the context but we're not listening to the phone call yeah it was like a very like we're listening but we're not listening we're not listening i promise

45:36Marques Brownlee:we're not listening it seems like they have to get the context somehow and if you are calling the airline and you have a recent reservation from that airline then that may be enough context

45:46David Imel:for them to usually have like seven reservations though that's why i think it would be tough

45:51Marques Brownlee:it might not work every time yeah yeah might give you an old reservation number so that was most of the major stuff with just the iphone okay yeah next we got the mac and we finally got the new name for the mac and it is golden gate is that a state park it is right another obscure um it's a great it's what the hell is it i don't it's not a state park it's typically been i think it is so we had all the cats leopards no leopard yeah yeah tiger then we had places in california but typically there were state parks there's golden gate canyon state park but it's about the bridge though.

46:24David Imel:It's the bridge. The other ones... Is it now just landmarks? So we've broken out of state parks. I guess the other ones were state parks. Well, Yosemite is a national park. Joshua Tree is a national park. Big Sur is not a national park. That's a state park. We never got Joshua Tree. Yeah, we did. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. We didn't do that yet? No. That's crazy. Damn, that would have been a good one. Dude, all the Apple people getting high on ayahuasca and Joshua Tree and they didn't even use it as a name for Michael West. Yeah, that's how they made that animation with Craig. and the hippie buzz.

46:53Yeah, the hippie buzz. That was actually pretty funny. They lean into that.

46:56David Imel:That was a good one. I'll give them a lot of credit for that. I asked them straight up why they call it the crack marketing team and they wouldn't give me an answer. I think that's just a Craig joke

47:05Marques Brownlee:that he is just keeping alive by himself. That's my theory. He gets on stage and he's like, are you going to say it again? He's like, yeah. All right, we're using it. They just kept saying, we like to have fun. So that was interesting. Watch this rap. Anyway, Mac OS Golden Gate. Now, something we should say is that a lot of the features that came to the iPhone come to every other Apple platform. Yeah. Faster app opening, transparency slider, faster airdrop, all the stuff we were talking about. Yeah. Also here. Yeah, so these are going to be truncated. Corner Radii. Corner Radii.

47:39David Imel:That's the name of this episode.

47:42Marques Brownlee:Mac OS Corner Radii. There's a couple of cool things in Safari, I think, that they did here. Yeah, totally. So one of them was you can ask it, similar to building a Siri shortcut, you can ask it to build an extension, a Safari extension, to do a very specific thing. And I got a demo of this and I watched and so you basically, in natural language, can type out or write out what you want it to do and it'll build that extension. If it sees an extension that is similar to what you're asking for, it will actually surface them. So not a full-on Sherlock of every single extension. It will still show you extensions.

48:14David Imel:Could you say, I don't want to use that one, though, keep making it?

48:17Marques Brownlee:Yeah, totally. You can. Yes.

48:18David Imel:So then now it Sherlock's. It went from not Sherlocking to Sherlocking literally anything you want.

48:23Marques Brownlee:But it's more like, oh, something already exists that you could use. Yeah. Yeah. If it's just like, make me an extension to save bookmarks and rate recipes. It's like, well, okay, that exists. Like, that's a thing you can get here. And it'll actually do the nice thing and show you that. Yeah. But if you want to keep going, yeah, it'll make you an extension from scratch.

48:39David Imel:build an extension to scroll past Google AI overview

48:43Marques Brownlee:every time I search something. That'd be seven.

48:47David Imel:That is really cool though because I feel like a lot of my developer friends that will have an idea to build something will want to make a Chrome extension. That is where their brain goes first. There's a thriving developer community for Chrome extensions. Not so much for Safari extensions. So this could be a way to get people back building. And I was going to say about this, Apple is very good at taking things that people are doing outside of Apple ecosystem. And then instead of being like, we have a platform now that you can vibe code whatever you want, they're like in Safari. Now Safari supports vibe coding of Safari extensions.

49:20Marques Brownlee:Yeah. Instead of having like a nebulous terminal where you're like, code me a Chrome extension, you just say, this is what I want to be able to do in my browser. And then it does it. Yeah. Which I think is better for most people probably. Yeah. There's a couple other smart things there. It will, if you want it to, use AI to organize your tabs into tab groups based on topics. So if you have like, what does Harper have? 75 tabs open at any point? You can just kind of group them together into things that are related to each other. And then as you keep browsing, it'll keep sorting. They kind of ripped that from Dia, not going to lie.

49:49Marques Brownlee:There's a lot of browsers that do this now. I don't know if I call that a full-on Sherlock, but that is definitely taken from other browsers. Okay, wait. If you have 75 tabs open

49:57David Imel:and it's auto-sorting them into tab groups, what if there's something that could be split between two tab groups? How do I find that as a user? Good question. We're not sure. Yeah. I think I asked someone like that. Like if I have two, because I asked them like how is it deciding how to group them? And I was like if there's two Google Docs documents open and the contents of one Google Docs is about cats and then I have a pet store page open, is it going to group the Google Doc with the pet store? or is it going to group the Google Doc with another Google Doc? Yeah. And they didn't really have an answer for me.

50:38That's funny because it's like,

50:39David Imel:are you just matching favicons or are you actually like reading the content of the page? Or like you're looking up cats and you're also looking up Japan and then you start looking up cats in Japan. Right. Where does it go? I don't know. Do you just go,

50:52Marques Brownlee:all right, put them all back together.

50:54David Imel:It would be cool if the tab group had a reasoning if you like right click. If it gave you a reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like why it shows that. Because it would be really funny.

51:01Marques Brownlee:Somewhere in the code. Yeah. Yeah. Somewhere in the thinking. I don't know. In Dia, it's interesting because when I have tab groups, I don't make tab groups, but when I right click and like open a new tab, a bunch of stuff that creates a tab group because it knows I'm doing this tree of things and that keeps them together. So that's I imagine there'll be animations that at least make it clear what is happening while it's happening. yeah so that's cool safari is also adding an ability to monitor a web page for if it changes so this the common use case of this is obviously like concert tickets but um you can only give it you can only have it checked once a day which means you can definitely cannot use it for scalping well as you have to tell it when to check i believe there was a different one though that

51:43David Imel:was like using context it could see i guess it's kind of the same just because we're talking about concert tickets but it was like there's a lottery for this concert and it's like i think they took a screenshot of it and said like remind me when this lottery is opening um which was kind of cool and felt like a vast difference between io where they're like i want to go to this concert do everything for me yeah siri's like i'll remind you when you can pay for it yourself yeah and it's sort of just uh it's more of a little reminder tool than it is an agentic like we're going to completely get you the concert ticket yeah yeah so that might that might sherlock something to be honest but it's not probably not as powerful as some other extensions are so maybe it's not quite sure like the other major thing that they made a big deal about the sidebars are now stretching to the screen edge huge so yeah if you have like the finder window open or something it's basically just making better it's taking more advantage of the screen real estate better use of space.

52:41Better use of space, unlike the HTC One 11. If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Okay, and then oh yeah, the one big thing that they didn't ask about, that they didn't really mention, but I asked if there was anything that they didn't really mention. They said, macOS is now much better at remembering the orientation of the screens you have plugged in.

53:02David Imel:This is like the biggest. Actually huge. They could have only said that and I would have stood up in class.

53:07Marques Brownlee:This is big. As a person who recently, like very recently, switched to being a laptop person who's plugging into multiple sets of monitors. I am frequently annoyed by the jumbling of monitor windows that happens when I unplug the monitor and re-plug it back in, and they never go back to where they're supposed to. Allegedly, they're going to go back to where they're supposed to. I think Windows announced that they had this quite a while ago, so it's nice to see this on Mac. But they said it'll know if you're plugged into one screen, two screens, three screens, and then it'll just automatically set it up, which is cool.

53:40iPadOS S27 gets everything that the iPhone got. There are some other strange improvements, like transferring files from an external drive to an iPad and vice versa is now five times faster than it was before. Wow. I'm not really sure what the roadblock was there previously. Only the Thunderbolt ones or all of them? It says up to, just like the airdrop. Okay. So who knows? Five times faster. Yeah. Other than that, it basically gets all the same improvements as the iPhone, and then you also get sort of the Safari benefits that you're getting from the Mac. Apple Watch, they didn't change a lot here.

54:16We're going to note as well, they didn't even have an Apple Watch section really in the keynote and same with tvOS and also HomePod. And Vision Pro, yeah, because no one cares. They showed a couple of Vision Pro things.

54:28David Imel:They showed a floating Siri bar that three people are going to use. Should have been Finder guy. I am very excited about the Vision Pro. We'll get there. Apple Watch, they changed. They have this dynamic app view now where when you press the digital crown, it shows your six most used apps first instead of just bringing up all of the apps. And then you can click into all of the apps after. That's basically the only change. There it is. WatchOS 27. WatchOS 27. There you've seen it. Apparently, there's a better workout buddy that has upgrades and better sleep tracking. You get the better Wi-Fi connectivity, faster music playback.

55:01If you click the music playback on the watch and it's playing from your phone, it'll apparently happen faster because the connection is better. there's better battery efficiency however this was a big deal people were very upset about this they dropped support for a lot of apple watches on this on this one so on the keynote they said it's only supported by apple watch series nine or series 10 and above i think which everyone was like the series 10 just came out that's the last two generations yeah last two generations yeah but then uh someone from apple said we made a mistake on the keynote it's actually series nine and above, which is still only the last three generations.

55:38David Imel:And I checked online and it does say that now. It at least says Series 9 because I was like, this is something that you can tell us is wrong, but until it's showing up somewhere and it has changed up. Yeah. It's still kind of surprising that, you know, Apple Watch Ultra 1 does not have support for watchOS 27, which is kind of crazy. The SE 2. Yeah, very weird. Okay, Vision Pro. Yeah. This was the David update. There it is. No, this was the David update. Vision OS 27. Vision OS 27, baby.

56:07Marques Brownlee:Oh, this is, I did, yeah, I did mention. Yeah. I thought, as soon as they announced this, I was like, oh, David's going to do that. Yes, I am. So what are you going to do on the Vision Pro, David? The major change in Vision Pro, besides all the, you know, Wi-Fi speed, whatever. Who cares about Wi-Fi speed? I don't care about Wi-Fi speed. You guys remember Vision Pro? You can get rid of the Wi-Fi. I'm still excited about this feature. so now on vision pro there's a feature where there was always a feature where you could spatialize photos right now you can spatialize panoramas that's not something they had access to before and and in the vision pro there's a thing called environments and they had them built into the vision pro where you could like turn the digital crown and you would slowly blend into these beautiful worlds that were handpicked by apple they were hand scanned by apple with these special cameras.

56:48No, no, no, no, no. You can use your own panoramas as environments now. So to be clear, before

56:55Marques Brownlee:on the Vision Pro, I looked it up. There was exactly six environments. Yeah. So when you like shut down the transparency and like go into one of those worlds, you could either be in Yosemite, Mount Hood, Maui, Joshua Tree, White Sands, and the moon. That's it.

57:14David Imel:All California. The moon is also California. On the moon, yeah, California. Well, the soundstage is in California. On my website, I offer 60 different environments. So Apple, if you want to buy them from me, you can. Apple was like, how do we get Waveform to talk about Vision Pro? That's probably what happened. That was exactly why they added that. And they nailed that. They also couldn't really make a ton of updates to Vision Pro because the guy that used to head up the Vision Pro is now the head of Siri. And so that's why Vision Pro is kind of like spiraling at the moment. King of, never mind.

57:45Things that people don't use very much. But there is like, there is, we're going to talk about Siri in a bit, but there is a floating Siri orb now that you can interact with that's just always there. This is my favorite thing they announced, period.

57:58Marques Brownlee:The floating Siri orb?

58:00David Imel:The floating Siri orb. And the fact that you can move it around? Yep. It should have been Finder guy. It should have been, but it's not going to be. And I'm okay with it. Just imagine him like popping up. But the cool thing about the Siri. You don't want another Clippy, you know? No, that's exactly what I want. You want a meme. He does want another Clippy. you know the palantir orb in lord of the rings that not palantir the missile company the same thing lord of the rings evil guy yeah do you know the palantir orb in lord of the rings no okay well it's the thing that they like can look into that basically teleports you to a different place and you can like look around that's why they call it palantir because it's like we're spying on everyone on the planet um and i wish i was joking but uh anyway that's basically what the Siri orb looks like.

58:45You look at it and then suddenly you have magic access.

58:48David Imel:I just want my digital assistant to be that orb. I think that is genius. Yeah. Put it everywhere. Other interesting things about Vision Pro, you can now look at things in your real environment and just ask Siri about them. Yeah, they circle to search. Circle to search. But in the real world.

59:04Marques Brownlee:Yeah. And there's a new app kit for Safari so that you can make 3D environments inside of Safari. So if you're in Safari and Vision Pro, you can tap a little thing and then it envelops you in the entire environment. They also added Iceland. Yeah, we can take Marcus to Iceland. You know, I also offer Iceland. I also offer Iceland environments, just so you know. And they're probably better. There's Google.com. Share the Apple lawyers on that one. Iceland, yeah. Iceland. Okay. Okay, we're basically done with the hardware because tvOS didn't really get upgraded. The HomePod, they just forgot existed.

59:38I think because it cannot run any of the Siri stuff because it just doesn't have any RAM. Isn't that crazy? The Siri box doesn't do the new Siri.

59:49Marques Brownlee:And everyone who's bought a HomePod, by the way, all the$400 HomePods out there and the HomePod Minis and all those, they're not going to get the new Siri. So everyone who's sort of bought into, like the people who are most likely to accidentally use Siri once in a while are not going to see these improvements. Doesn't the iPhone 16 not even have the new Siri? No, they'll have the new Siri, just won't have the most advanced on-device models, which is like the couple of small things, like the notation or dictation. But yeah, the Siri box doesn't get better Siri. To be fair, the original Homebook came out in 2018, so they were not thinking about this.

1:00:21Marques Brownlee:It's still like, I bought my Google Home Assistant in like 2018 or whatever, and that has a new Assistant. That just got updated this year. But that's all cloud-based, whereas Apple is like, we're taking your personal context from your local stuff. That's true. Yeah. So yeah. One thing as well, what we didn't know earlier is that on the iPhone, like when you update, there's now this persistent notification in your settings that's just like indexing and progress. Yeah, it's a big deal. And we'll talk about Siri so we might get to this in the next section, but this is a big part of what makes Siri the new Siri.

1:00:53Marques Brownlee:Yeah. Is it's going to have way more personal context. It will index all of your stuff. It may take some time to do that, but when it's done, it'll be worth it. Yeah. There's a few small last minute things. AirPods now have customizable EQ. Oh, thank God. that is rufus cheers out loud during that finally it's it's years over date i can't believe it took this long it's so yeah no this is should be this should have been a feature that came with them like in airpods one 10 years ago yeah and it's it's ridiculous that it hasn't had it forever and it's a little disappointing that it's only three bands because yeah that's three thousand dollars no yeah it's so expensive what is it only is it just high medium low that's it that was Yep.

1:01:36Marques Brownlee:Yeah. You have high, high, high end. I'll take what we can get. I'll take it. I have a question about this. Yeah.

1:01:42David Imel:Because isn't the whole point of AirPods Pro and AirPods and stuff that it has the adaptive EQ that will like adjust to your ears and hearing.

1:01:49Marques Brownlee:So why even have this? So, yes. And that was basically their their argument the entire time. And I think if you asked if else was here, he'd be fuming about how things don't sound like other things. but like yes Apple's AirPods are computers in your ears and they are constantly adapting to sounding differently all the time based on your environment and based on what's playing and so the EQ theoretically is also not like other EQs it will it will generally it will generally affect what you're listening to but not in a precise scientific way I still think that's fine I'm glad to have the customization it's about time every time I review earbuds I always talk about how they sound out the box but also this kind of doesn't matter that much because you can make them sound the way you want to yeah but i've never been able to say that about airpods now i can that's true i hope it's for all air some people think that the airpods pro 2 sound better than the airpods pro 3 exactly one of them and that was a balance thing and ideally this is what you can use to dial that bass back a little bit and actually make you have your airpods 2 again i have a much i have a much more granular critique that i will spare our dear viewers um take it but no i want to hear it you want to hear it yeah speed so when i listen to noises on my AirPods Pro 3, which I did buy and I still have.

1:03:03Marques Brownlee:They're sitting on my desk in case they ever get firmware updated. When I type on a keyboard, I have this little like resonance in like somewhere between 600 and 2000 hertz. That's like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Every time I'm typing, it feels a little thocky. And I just don't really like that. It's just annoying. Every time I get in a car and I close the door, it sounds like a bomb goes off. That's actually very common. Yeah, Pro 3s do that. all over the place the pro twos never did it i don't know what changed um and sometimes i feel like that the the noise canceling is so um it's really good but it's so powerful that i'm like i'm just alienated from my environment it's just uncomfortable and i don't like it and just overall the the sound of the pro twos is i it feels a little more balanced i feel like the pro threes have like a sharp high end like at the high mid range can get sharper but that's a three band eq isn't going to solve that and i just still use my pro twos even though i i have three on my desk i have the pro threes on my desk and i only ever use the pro twos because they just like are the ones that i don't hate i also won't be using the eq with them because i am so used to the way the pro twos sound yeah i use them to listen to so much material that's like how i check everything I ever mix, I'm not changing that for anything.

1:04:26Marques Brownlee:I know what that sounds like really well. I've heard from a few people that the Pro 2 is sound better than the Pro 3. I'll just trust you guys because I'm not the audio master. Rufus, how do you feel about frequency response charts?

1:04:38David Imel:Cut it off. I don't have

1:04:40Marques Brownlee:too much to say about that. And that is a good place to take a quick break because we've got plenty more to talk about with Siri and also we have a dad here so we can talk about parental controls because I want I want thoughts. But before we do that, trivia.

1:05:02David Imel:I'm going to add this in post, but were you paying attention? Of course I was paying attention. Of course you were. So you know that in the Siri AI section, a notification popped up that said the Golden Gate Bridge is painted in a color officially known as... Oh. What? Oh, I did see that. Oh, I remember the obvious color part. I don't remember the specific adjective.

1:05:25Marques Brownlee:I remember that. I learned that while I watched it. Okay, yeah, I'm writing this down.

1:05:28David Imel:I was surprised by it.

1:05:30Marques Brownlee:It's not what I expected. It's not what you think. It's like mermaid tail or something. It would. Dang, you know what's funny? Because when you do the were you paying attention clips, typically I'm a mix of paying attention. I'm paying close attention sometimes, but I'm also live tweeting, and I'm also taking pictures. And so a lot of times I'll see something and I'll go, wow, that's really interesting. And I'll take a picture and I'll write it in my notes and I'll live tweet it and then I'll look up and people are applauding. And I definitely just missed something. I missed something for sure.

1:06:02Marques Brownlee:So, all right, I'm glad I got that one. Yeah, okay. Well, we'll get back to Daddy after the break. Yeah. What? Should we keep that? If you want, I don't know. All right, let's keep that. I'm talking about Andrew, by the way. Yeah. Oh.

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1:09:28David Imel:All right, we're back. more dub dub something I was pretty even though this is you know my kids are not old enough to really be doing parental controls Lane does not have an iPhone I'm keeping her on an Android right now but wait wait wait how old is she? she has a Nexus 10 she's two a bunch of new parental controls which I think first of all they did all of this because next they're going to talk about AI so they wanted to be like look at us we're safe we're private applaud us then we're going to talk about ai which you're way more skeptical about and two just because these are important and so many more kids have phones and ultimately with all the announcements they did in this i think the biggest thing they did was the redesign of setting up child accounts which is like just a much easier setup process to be able to include all these new restrictions and screen time and everything so uh they added a new child account which one thing they did was if you have a regular account already on one of you for one of your kids you can convert those accounts back to this new children's account um there's a new setup assistant that i just mentioned some of them are like pre-made groups uh one was just called like essentials only which has like facetime phone messages maps and settings like those are the only apps you are allowed and then one thing they also announced in that is uh being able to gradually allow apps after you already do the setup process with uh the phones you're setting up which is cool one of the ways that can happen is whether it's through the app store or i guess apps on your phones kids can request to be able to use apps or download apps with their parents so like even in this spot right now we've had parental controls on computers and phones and everything they're just trickier to set up this is like a much more granular practice of it so you can start it off totally locked down you know like I got my first smartphone or sorry my first phone when I was in 7th grade because yes and it was because I started playing sports and there was a kid in our school or a different school that got left behind at a school and the parents couldn't find them so my mom was like you need a way to contact me we're gonna do this even though you're probably too young to have a phone that kid is still traumatized from that did the kid ever get back I have no use Scott maybe listening out there somewhere yeah but um so like lock them down you can call me in an emergency that's really all you should be able to do first okay now you're showing you're more responsible you can open up this or that uh so i think that's a cool way of doing it there's also the browser website request so you can just request to visit different websites depending on how locked down you are polymarket if you're a parent and get that call sheet request That's hilarious.

1:12:20David Imel:So I really like that idea of kids asking for approval. They also have a new screen time redesign, which does a bunch of different things. It lists apps in different categories, and you can adjust allowances based on the categories or based on times of day, which is awesome because you can really limit screen time during school hours. Yeah, exactly. Pretty specifically.

1:12:45Marques Brownlee:like you can request like you can use apps out of school hours more freely but if you're in school

1:12:52David Imel:better not be on instagram bro yeah or really on your phone at all yeah actually true yeah and so and then i do think it has uh inside the settings a way to adjust allowances kind of like on the fly so i'm sure whether your kid was bad or good you can then change allowances based on that like oh you did great on your test you can have 30 more minutes of youtube tonight like that's probably a pretty cool way of... That would be huge for me. 30 more minutes of couchy, baby. Is that going to be your parenting style? Mine? She's never going to have a phone. Really? No, she'll have a phone, for sure.

1:13:25But, like, just thinking about... You may have an AI pen because you can't do anything. I think straight to smart glasses is a move, yeah. Straight to smart glasses?

1:13:33Marques Brownlee:Straight to AI glasses. Well, the glasses will be the paradigm by the time she's old enough to have. Yeah, sure. Won't even need a phone.

1:13:38David Imel:I do think about it all the time of, like, the s*** I got away with as a kid and how my kids will not be able to get away with anything. I will know pretty much everything that happens.

1:13:49Marques Brownlee:It's what we think, but it's because the new generation will be getting away with different stuff.

1:13:53David Imel:Yeah, well, new generations don't have a dad who's on a tech podcast that knows all the s*** that I can do, so they're screwed. Sorry, guys. Do you know what your kids are doing in the metaverse? They won't be in the metaverse. How do you know? How will you know? Because the metaverse already is given up on by meta. Yeah, but they're going to be in Neuralink. They're going to be trading on Calci. Yeah, I don't know what my kids are thinking about. No. Unfortunately, but the computer does. Elon Musk does. One question I had for you guys who had. No kids. Went through. 31 years old. Unmarried. I mean, that's.

1:14:28David Imel:Childless tech man. So they're doing a thing where you can also approve new contacts in apps. They just called it where FaceTime messages, phone are pretty obvious. Do you know if it extends into other apps? because the contacts that I would be the most worried about are Roblox, are WhatsApp, are a little more online-y things. And I don't know if they even would be able to do that, but they first just said contacts and apps. And I was like, in the online video game world, that's where the predators are. That's where I want my kids requesting things to be.

1:15:00Marques Brownlee:I do think that is for a long time been the challenge of a lot of these tools is you can restrict which apps they do or don't have access to. But then once you go into those apps, The content in the apps is kind of like, if you just give them YouTube, YouTube is all of the stuff on YouTube. So I think that's more of like a high-level control of like once they're in that app, it's everything that comes with that app. Remember during the Epic and Google trial, they had like a three-day-long disposition on what a game is? So I don't think...

1:15:29David Imel:Yeah, it probably won't, but that would be something. I mean, they did add the like age API thing that developers could implement. So that's like maybe one indicator of how they're looking at doing this kind of stuff. It all is pretty cool. I like how granular it is. And I just really think the most important thing here is how easy it is to set up for parents. So parents will just actually use it. And Apple launched a dedicated website for parents to actually learn how to use this, which is helpful. Again, I think that these features are like super important. I also think that most parents don't know they exist.

1:16:05so any way that Apple can get out even Google, Apple, whoever's making these parental control features to bring awareness to these things I think that's very, very important. They should have a set up. Yeah. But they will say when you do set up an iPhone I'm setting this up for someone else and then it asks is it a kid and then I think they probably give you some sort of set up flow for parental controls. And their age and all that. Yeah.

1:16:29Marques Brownlee:I was in my briefing for this with a bunch of parents and they loved this part of the briefing.

1:16:37David Imel:I'm so happy I don't have to deal with it yet. I've got a few years.

1:16:40Marques Brownlee:Yeah, there were people, I guess most of them were actively trying to do some sort of like parental controls with the existing tools and the requests that they had were basically all solved by these new sets of tools. So that was cool to see.

1:16:52David Imel:I'm just imagining me with my phone up and being like, Lane, clean up your toys and I have this slider for like YouTube allowance and she's watching it tick down and she's not doing what I want. Yeah, no Roblox for you.

1:17:03Marques Brownlee:My other read on this, which was, I don't know if this is just the way I think about tech companies, but it's just like, get your kid an iPhone.

1:17:10David Imel:Yeah.

1:17:11Marques Brownlee:Get your kid an iPhone. 100%. Because you have all these tools and it'll be super great. And also when the kid gets used to the iPhone super, super early, they are much more likely to continue to buy iPhones as they grow up. Yeah. And we know the story of, yeah, we know the story of the iPhone in the US is like kids just want iPhones. So. Yeah. Now you have a good reason to get them. Get your mom an iPhone. Yeah. Get your kid an iPhone. So that's that. My biggest, baddest, most anticipated two-year wait of all time, bigger than Avengers Endgame. It's Siri and Siri AI, which is just Siri with another name.

1:17:43So the new Siri. We back.

1:17:46Marques Brownlee:Okay. Yeah. At a high level, I feel that the new Siri is not that crazy. It is about what we expected as far as capabilities anyway. the thing that Apple always does when they introduce a new thing especially if it's in a new product category is they make it the thing that works with the iPhone and the rest of the ecosystem really well so you have other AI tools especially large language models that you can use you've been able to get Gemini on your iPhone and Claude and ChatGPT what is the thing about Siri that would make you even try to use it when you already have those things well it's the one that can plug deeply into your your personal context and the stuff that's on your iPhone okay great what does that mean?

1:18:30Marques Brownlee:That means it can read your iMessages, it can look at your calendar, it can see things that were in your group chats and your notes and your email because it's on your phone. And it can actually search through that stuff. It's indexed very, very specifically and can even take some actions on your behalf, mostly just by digging into apps. It can send messages for you. It can add calendar events, reminders, notes, all using those like first party Apple apps. My immediate question seeing all that stuff was, well, what if I don't use all those Apple apps, right? I obviously you can use iMessage, but what if I use WhatsApp?

1:19:06Marques Brownlee:What if I use Google Calendar? What if I use Spotify? What if I use a different podcast app? Is this stuff going to work? Anyway, the idea is if you have a specific app that you want it to use for requests, like if I have, say, Pocket Cast that I want it to open podcasts with, if I ever go, hey Siri, which sorry for triggering all of your series if I ever say that and go what is that podcast that uh Kevin recommended a week ago can you play that it'll go search through your iMessage find a podcast and play it by default and it'll just play waveform if it's a supported app it'll play it it'll play it by default in Apple podcast but if I ask for it to play in pocket casts and the developer has enabled that then it should work you can go into the default apps section and there are default apps for email, messaging, calling, call filtering, browser, translation, passwords.

1:19:56But that's for clicks, not for Siri. I think Siri will access these as well. Really? So if I say, let's see, let's try this because I just changed my default email app to Gmail. Okay. Hey Siri, send an email to Adam Molina telling him he needs to pick me up. Oh, it just died. It's a bug. Let's try again.

1:20:16Marques Brownlee:It's beta software. Send an email to Adam Molina telling him to pick me up milk after work. Got you fam. Alright. Yeah. It didn't do Gmail. But it did say pick up milk after work except for my iPhone. And it did Apple Mail? It did Apple Mail. Okay. So that's my suspicion. So we'll see how that works and we'll see. Wait let me ask. Well it composed it and then you can. Let me ask to do Gmail. Okay. Hey Siri. Send an email with Gmail telling Adam Molina to pick me up milk after work.

1:20:47David Imel:It's obviously not as quick outside of its own app. Yeah, that's true. Didn't, well, while that's loading, wasn't there something that, in order to not set off anyone's series during the event that they, like, broadcast? Allegedly.

1:21:01Marques Brownlee:They cut certain frequencies that I guess were in the S and whatever other letter made it easy to identify the word Siri. I want to try it out. Yeah. This beta software is really taking its time. It's still loading.

1:21:13David Imel:I think the Siri loading icon, which is, like, six dots spinning around, should have been the beach ball. I still need Adam Molina's email address to send the email. What is it? Beep it out. Wow. Adam at Molina.com. It still opened Apple Mail. After all. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't. Yeah. You can't do it.

1:21:35Marques Brownlee:So not right now. As an iPhone user, like many others who use things like Google Calendar and not Apple Calendar, who use things like Tick Tick and not Apple Reminders, et cetera, et cetera. I wonder how much of this stuff will work or be feasible to use. I'm now sad because, yeah, that kind of, yeah, because Google Maps, I use Google Maps, I use Gmail, I use Pocket Cast. Yeah. I don't want to use only Apple apps. There's lots of developers at that keynote that make alternatives to Apple's apps. Yes.

1:22:06David Imel:But I would imagine they would still have to implement this, right? Like not all of these features have been built into Gmail yet.

1:22:14Marques Brownlee:Yeah. True. True. Maybe there are updates to these apps coming that will support and then this will work flawlessly. Technically, yeah. I think Apple basically said that the developers have to support. It wasn't App Clips. It was App Intense. App Intense, yeah. Which is a thing that they've had for a while now. But apparently Google has just not really supported them in a lot of Google apps. They have that little micro war, which is really annoying, even if they both pay each other like a billion dollars. And also the other thing is like how much of it is going to be on the device? Because I know like iMessage, it knows all my iMessages.

1:22:45Marques Brownlee:but what about my Google calendar? That's not all on my phone. It's kind of nebulous. They did go into detail about the different models and how much they access the cloud versus how much they happen on device. They didn't say what apps can do on device versus what can't. I know that there was a rumor going around that even setting a timer would hit the private cloud compute server but I asked someone at Apple about this and they were like, it'll get worked out. the things that can happen on the iPhone should just happen on the iPhone without having to leave. So there's five models. And this is a little bit confusing.

1:23:22It's not actually using Gemini, allegedly. Apple says that they are licensing a 1.2 trillion parameter Gemini model for about a billion a year as a teacher for the Apple foundation models. It sounds like they're building their own foundation models by basically distilling Gemini answers. Siri got a tutor. Kind of. It's a tutor. It's a private tutor. They're building their own models based on their own data sets is what they said, but they're using Gemini to sort of like teach their model how to be a model. I don't understand any of this.

1:23:56Marques Brownlee:If I was a car company and I had a billion dollar a year partnership with another car company and I was gonna make my own car, but I was going to use that partnership to have the other car company teach me how to build a car. Toyota. You would end up with a car that looks and works and acts a lot like the one you're getting tutored from. Yes. But you'd be able to technically say that it's not a copy of the other car. They did say they used their own data sets. So that's something. Yeah, we used our own tires and our own materials. I have no idea how to put them together. Right. But I have the blueprint of a Toyota Prius.

1:24:36Marques Brownlee:Yes. And so when I put these things together they're using the instructions from the Prius, it's probably going to end up looking like the Prius. But it's not Toyota's tires. It's my tires. So don't you call it a Toyota car. That's how Craig kind of sounds. Sounds a lot like distillation.

1:24:52David Imel:Do you think for a billion a year, now they only pay$19 billion to Apple to be the search engine? Search engine, yeah. There's a lot of back and forth financing going on. So there's five main models. There's two on-device models. there's AFM 3 core which is Apple Foundation Model 3 core that happens for a very simple task it's a 3 billion parameter model that should be able to do things like setting a timer etc. AFM 3 core advanced which is their most advanced on device model which has 20 billion parameters but it kind of uses the like mixture of experts technique where it only accesses between 1 to 4 billion parameters at a time to actually do stuff so I believe that's the one that can only work on the like iPhone Pro and like the latest one that won't work on the regular iPhone 16 or iPhone 15 Pro, etc.

1:25:40David Imel:The one built from the ground up. Built for Apple intelligence. You guys who bought that iPhone that was built for Apple intelligence better get your$95 now. And then there's three private cloud compute models. There's AFM3 Cloud, which is heavier cloud requests, which I assume is just stuff that the local models can handle. AFM3 Cloud Image, which sounds like a distillation or some sort of version of Nano Banana that is Apple's version of Nano Banana. And then there's AFM3 Cloud Pro, which is their heaviest tool. They specifically called out that it uses Google Cloud infrastructure and it specifically called out that it uses NVIDIA GPUs.

1:26:18Is this the one you think that will go through and unsubscribe if you do that? Like the agentic stuff? Agentic stuff, yeah. Or not unsubscribe, change your passwords, sorry. Change your passwords? Yeah. Oh. Maybe. I don't know. That seems like complex tasks. Which ones they're going to need NVIDIA GPUs for or if they just did that because there's some weird payment going on between NVIDIA. I have no idea.

1:26:39David Imel:It feels weird because that is a very privacy-centered thing, which I would assume would go through their private stuff, but they're saying the heavier stuff like that would be through NVIDIA stuff. There was some murkiness because they were saying all of the cloud models are through private cloud compute, but then some people were saying that the most hardcore one that uses Google Cloud infrastructure, they said it still has the benefits of private cloud compute, and they were very specific about that verbiage. Yeah, because Google made their own version of it, basically. I get it. That's probably what it is.

1:27:10David Imel:Some of those are just being routed through Google servers. Probably what it is. But then they wouldn't say it's only on Apple servers. I feel like Apple still wouldn't do that. Yeah. I don't know. It's all very case. It's all too nebulous and we don't want to make any big claims. Yeah. Okay, I think that we should get down to what Siri actually does because there's three main pillars of what Apple is saying that Siri can actually do. So there's personal context, which is Siri can draw from all your personal apps like messages, Google Photos, email, and calendar to take actions for you. So you can say like, hey, Siri, when's mom's flight landing?

1:27:45And because it had news, you have a contact called mom and it can search through your messages. And she texted you when her flight is landing. It'll just tell you. And that's helpful. There's on-screen awareness, which is Siri being able to analyze what's on your screen. It's basically a circle search. It can add things to your calendar. You can ask the things about the things that are on your screen, et cetera. And then there's in-app actions, which is where Siri can perform and chain tasks together across tasks. So if you pull a photo into an email or you make a schedule based on your notes, that's where it's manipulating your apps for you.

1:28:18To do this, they now also have a dedicated Siri app.

1:28:22Marques Brownlee:Yeah, so all of your apps, all of your devices are going to get this Siri app. and it's essentially like a memory bank for all the things that you've been asking Siri. So obviously if you use any of these others, you've seen like the sidebar of all your previous queries. This isn't 100 % of your queries because you might just ask Siri what the weather is and doesn't want to save everything, but it's the things that are a little more context. You might want to come back to them. It's all your memories and it will sync across devices so you can pick up where you left off from one request or one conversation to the next in this little hub where all your Siri stuff will be.

1:28:55And there's an interesting interface on the iPhone specifically, but I'm sure you can do it on other computers as well, where when you ask Siri a question, it will give you like a high level answer, but then you can pull down the little orb that kind of pops up and it'll just sort of like fluidly open the app. It'll splat open. Splat open, yeah. It'll gouge and splat. It doesn't feel like it's opening an app, but it's sort of just like this extension of itself, but it is the app.

1:29:23David Imel:Yeah. There's something strange about how black the background is of it. Yeah. It's just like— It's a very basic looking— Because it looks like a dynamic island pops open, but then it looks like the dynamic island just takes over your whole screen except for a little bit of transparency at the bottom. Yeah. And it's just black-white text.

1:29:39Marques Brownlee:I kind of liked it. So I had one thing that I really liked and one thing I really didn't like. Okay. The thing that I really liked was the way it seems to— it comes out of the dynamic island, and then you can extend it, and it just seems to always act like an overlay. So I thought that that visual consistency of it always just happening on top of whatever you're doing makes sense. That's the same thing like Gemini will do if you wanna show it stuff on your screen. It always feels like it's on top. So I thought that visually that made a lot of sense. And that's the same on the Mac and the iPad.

1:30:06Marques Brownlee:It always looks like a little window. The thing I didn't love, and it's subtle, but I think it makes a big difference for confidence using it, is it doesn't transcribe what you're saying visually as you're talking. It just listens and shows a little orb. And then when you're done talking, boom that's the text that you just inputted and it's a little thing but when it shows the text as i'm talking which like the rest of like google especially does this really well that gives me a good sense of like okay it's understanding what i'm saying and here's what it has so far and here's the rest of what i want to say yeah i wish it i wish it did that yeah because if you say something

1:30:38David Imel:really long but it doesn't get it right in the beginning now you've said the whole thing but all of that could be wrong because of the first sentence where if you see it in live you can be You're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I can start over.

1:30:50Marques Brownlee:Yeah. So that's a little thing that I wish they did differently. Maybe they will. There's still time to update the software. Yeah. But yeah, it does seem like it's sort of always in overlay mode and happening on top of whatever you're just doing on your phone. Yeah. Have you messed with Siri at all and tried to get it to do edge cases and stuff yet? No, I'm updating my Pro right now. That's what I'm going to be beta testing on because I want to do it on my main device. So all of this for me is just from Keynote and from Hands-On I got at Apple Park. Yeah. I had a couple delightful experiences with Siri where I didn't expect it to work and it did.

1:31:21And I had a couple where it just utterly failed. Sounds like Siri. Classic. But one that was really surprising to me. So the way that these events work is we get briefing schedules before the keynote. But on the schedule, it'll be like 1 p.m. to 2 p.m. It just says briefing because they want you to know what to prepare for, but not like what specifically to prepare for because you haven't seen the keynote yet. Then you go to the keynote and then you've learned everything and then they give you another briefing schedule that tells you what the actual briefing is about. It unmasks the names of the briefings.

1:31:55Yeah, so I had been referencing my briefing email like all day to make sure I was like making it to my briefings on time. And it got really annoying because I had to keep searching my email like a bunch of times. I was like, oh, this is an interesting Siri dynamic. So I was like, hey Siri, can you make a note of my WWDC briefing schedule? And it did it. It was like, here you go. And so it pulled it out of my email, but it pulled out the original schedule. So it just said briefing. So I said, hey, can you actually update that with the most recent one that gives more details? And then it did that.

1:32:30And it was cool. And I was like, damn, that actually worked. Then I said, actually, can you add this to my email or to my calendar? And it added the first two to my calendar. And then I said, can you add the other three to my calendar? And it added two more to my calendar. I said, can you add the last one to my calendar? And then it finally added the last one. So there's weird chunks. And then also, it only added it to my Apple calendar, and I can't get it to my Google calendar. That's what I expected. This is the problem. That's the main problem. Yeah.

1:33:00David Imel:Part of me wants to just go all in on Apple's ecosystem. Oh, this is what it's designed to do. This is what they want. We got it. you're the last person that could even do this man listen it's for science i like jumping between

1:33:13Marques Brownlee:things just to see look the golden gates of this walled garden are so shiny if you are if you are just entirely in apple walls everything works dude it works it's awesome but right now i mean google's golden gate bridge and that's fine and if you use gemini it's all going to be great looking your email looking your google calendar just always looking through all your stuff but if you do if you do the apple thing it will use apple reminders it will use apple podcasts we use Apple Calendar, you use iMessage, you'll do all the stuff you want because that's all the services you use. And that sounds pretty nice, but don't let yourself become that person because they haven't shogged everything yet.

1:33:51So we're obviously still in the very early testing stages of Siri. I tried it again with another thing. I was heading towards the airport, but I had some time for dinner and I wanted a burrito, but I wanted to sit outside, but I wanted to be on a back patio. So I was like, this is awesome. So I just gave it a million different parameters of this query and it did find me some places um one of them was not mexican but most of them were so i

1:34:15Marques Brownlee:you know this is what's gonna happen we're getting everyone's gonna have to start testing this stuff and using it and it's either going to work all the time in ways that are surprising and great or and this is what i think is more likely to happen is people are going to try to push it to its limits and try to ask it to do more and more interesting things because remember every time something new comes out people try to break it yeah start going all the way back to bing like People are just trying to break it and it's going to fail. And I wonder what it's going to look like slash act like slash say when it fails.

1:34:43Marques Brownlee:How does it fail? Does it confidently get things wrong or does it just go, hey, I can't do that? That'll be what we start seeing in videos and how to judge if it's actually capable or good or not. One thing, so I kind of ran into that because I asked it, what time does my flight board? Because I don't think that's necessarily something that it tells you in the email, but I was like, maybe you can find that information anyway. So I asked it and it went around forever. It was like, and eventually it came back with, I can't tell you the exact time. However, most flights board about 40 minutes before.

1:35:14So that's something. Unless you're Marquez. Or you're going internationally, which they want you to board an hour before. So I mean, at least it wasn't just, I can't help with that, which was the entire Siri experience before this. Hey, set a timer. I can't help with that. What did you say?

1:35:30David Imel:And now it's just even longer saying, I can't help with that. And it takes a while for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Really quickly, on the Mac, when you're using Siri, they built in the Spotlight. So that's a cool interaction paradigm. Raycast, be careful. It's basically... Be careful. Be careful, Raycast. I haven't put up the third finger yet for the shirt lock, but it's close. So when you use your command space to use Spotlight, not only is Spotlight way faster and way faster at finding files because that indexing stuff we talked about earlier, but now if it detects that it's a question or an action that it can take, there's a do this with Siri button and it's cool.

1:36:02and then also in the screenshot tool which is Command Shift 4 or Command Shift 5 there's a Siri option now too where you can basically circle the search on your screen and take action with it as your calendar do stuff like that. That's really cool and then there's a dedicated Siri app on the Mac as well. And the floating orb on Vision Pro. The floating orb. Adam's favorite. Yeah, the Palantir orb. Yeah, so that's practically it. There's some weird things. It's not going to be, Siri on the iPhone is not going to be available in the EU or China for now because of DMA stuff, but it is available on the Mac in the EU because their thing only covers smartphones and not computers.

1:36:41And it's English only, right? And it's English only for now as well. You can also now customize Siri's voice and change the expressiveness and speed. It's definitely not a leading class voice model. I'm going to be honest. I've heard some samples. It's not terrible. It sounds aight. It sounds aight. It sounds aight.

1:37:01Marques Brownlee:Yeah. I'll definitely be testing all this stuff, reviewing it, obviously, when the time comes. Definitely get subscribed. If you guys have any questions, you're listening to this, you want to know if I try to do something, if it works or not, leave that down below. I want to know what you want to see if it's capable of or not. Yes. Well, that was dub dub. What's the question? We did it. Oh, yeah. Trivia time.

1:37:25David Imel:Were you paying attention?

1:37:27Marques Brownlee:I have a question. so when Apple were demonstrating the features of the new Siri AI InVision Pro they gave us a demonstration of a user looking at a backpack they were thinking about buying for a trip and they asked does this backpack fit on my flight where was that flight going damn that's so specific

1:37:48David Imel:is it bad that I remembered the website they were using I remember everything else about it

1:37:51Marques Brownlee:I remember what the back I looked like the boots I remember the boots and they said do the boots fit and it said yes but just barely i remember everything else those are the best they had in real life right yeah like would they fit in the back and they asked if it would fit in the backpack that was on the website totally realistic uh scenario but where is the flight going i have a random thought but it's not probably right well yeah i'll figure it out they'll fit but it'll be tight well let's find out after the break

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1:40:37David Imel:Welcome back. This is a dub dub episode, but we're going to talk about nostalgia speedrun really quick. Gaming. I just want to say it. The Xbox 25th anniversary Xbox Series X25. In transparent green. Is that the name of this thing? They're calling it the Xbox Series X25. But the way I rewrote this like three times because I was so confused. The ROG ally. You said Xbox like four times.

1:41:03Marques Brownlee:Xbox X25, Xbox Series X.

1:41:05David Imel:She green, she transparent, she pretty. I feel like she has more chance to lose.

1:41:10Marques Brownlee:This is nostalgia? This is nostalgia. There was like an OG Xbox limited.

1:41:16David Imel:Gotcha. I really thought it was like a Master Chief edition, but I might be wrong about that. They already did that. Yeah. That was a different one. It's fine. It's so good, though. It looks nice.

1:41:26Marques Brownlee:It does look nice. As someone who has never seen the actual old Xbox that it's based on, this looks cool. What? I like it. Yeah. Never seen? I've seen old Xboxes, but they're all black. You've never seen the clear. I've never seen whatever this is referencing, but it looks cool. Okay. I have a quick rant. about Ocarina of Time. And then I have a quick rant, but go on. Why didn't I bring my Ocarina? I didn't put this in the doc, so it'll be a surprise for everyone. I should have brought my Ocarina and just played the Song of Storms.

1:41:55David Imel:I was debating asking you to bring it in, but I... Well, I flew directly from Dub Dub, but I'll play it next week. You didn't bring it to Dub Dub with you? Yeah, that'd be cool. I'll play it next week. Nintendo announced a remaster again. They have remastered Star Fox and Ocarina of Time like four times each. Oh, God. Ocarina of Time and Star... Okay. there's a scene in the trailer they just showed a trailer and they only showed what link looked like and then like what the intro looked like but they didn't show any gameplay but nintendo now is going for hyper realism which is just the thing that nintendo never did yeah and it's in my opinion a horrible idea because the amount of zelda games that they've made and they just do different art styles and it's always really interesting and cool when they switch up the art style but now i don't know if you guys have ever seen those like mario but if it was made in unreal engine like fan videos and they look ridiculous like they've been making those for the last like 10 years and they look like they can look kind of cool but you can't have hyper realism and timelessness at the same time because those graphics will always become outdated whereas if you go with cartoon and cel-shaded and something that never was made to look realistic anyway it is timeless like like wind waker as all the wind waker always gonna look amazing because it's cel-shaded anyway ocarina is my favorite game of all time and i just really feel like they massacred my boy this this video of him and like pretty realistic kind of just looks like do you remember poly pockets oh the link he looks like a poly pocket in this it's like yeah i'll reserve judgment for when we actually see gameplay but link it is weird to just show you guys you can you can vote with your wallets you don't have to

1:43:41Marques Brownlee:keep buying the same game disagree you don't have to have a free order for backyard baseball no no yeah no you if you look backyard baseball is gonna be the same game as well but it'll have online multiplayer so that's new if the only thing that's new is because you said remastered yeah is it the same game just higher quality but it's not like for the 3ds they basically just put like a sharpening shader on the original game. Yeah. But for this one, they're like making all new assets. I mean, it's supposed to be... When you say new, you mean old but better looking. But redone. The same characters but drawn again.

1:44:19Marques Brownlee:Differently. Yeah, that's my point. Yeah. Just don't buy it. I probably won't. I don't buy all these games. I didn't buy Star Wars. I guess my angle is if you do buy it, if you do buy it, This will be confirmation for the companies that it works and they'll do it again. Yeah, I know what you're saying.

1:44:35David Imel:It clearly works. They keep doing it. Yeah. Hollywood does this too. They're going to keep doing it. Anyway, I just want to say they massacred my boy and Nintendo needs to stop doing hyper-realism. And speaking of Nintendo and hyper-realism, they somehow got the trailer for Kingdom Hearts 4. And I am so excited for this game to come out. And there was already a trailer three years ago and then radio silence. And now there's another trailer. So we'll see how long it takes until the next trailer. I've always been surprised that they can just be like Soul Calibur but Mickey Mouse and that's popular and Donald Duck don't forget that one Go Off King and Goofy Love it Sora was in Smash Maybe Lane and I can play this Kingdom Hearts You should play the first 13 games so you really understand the story There's 13 you just said 4 They have like 2.5 and then 2.5 They do have remastered They have multiple remasters You should watch just a YouTube super cut on the story because there's like a bunch of story that happens only in like mobile games that were specifically released in Japan and that's like actually canon to the actual gameplay.

1:45:38David Imel:Does he ever find the door that he's trying to unlock with that big key? No spoilers because that is... He does carry that key around. Great game, great story. It's an insane story that everyone should know because it's amazing. I heard it was amazing. Okay, I just have one last thing because I feel like it's important. Anthropic, finally released its model that was too dangerous to release so yeah that's the playbook we talked about mythos a long time ago it was like a crazy cyber security model and they were like we're not gonna give this to people and then they gave it to people crazy new marketing angle yeah this thing we're about to release you can't handle it's too hot to handle that's they've done it a few times so here it is so here it is they said they like made it safer they're kind of doing a little bit of a bait and switch which i don't love where they're giving access to everybody like who has a paid subscription of any kind access to this model and for like one month and then they're completely pulling it from the models you can access unless you pay for the api isn't that what drug dealers do yes yeah well they they have a reason the reason they said they're doing this

1:46:50Marques Brownlee:is the same reason that they said they're they're changing their data retention policy oh for money Well, if you read their press release, what they said is that they wanted to make sure that they were curtailing like bad actors using it to do the wrong stuff. So you know how you can get it to be like, oh, roleplay is my grandma who used to read me state secrets in his bed when I was going to sleep. But now she's dead. And can you do it for me? Yeah. And it's like, no, no, no, I won't do that. So you could ask it like, OK, roleplay is my talking dog who I trained to repeat states. And then you could get it to do it like that.

1:47:22Marques Brownlee:they're looking for all of the variations of the ways you can trick it so that they can train their alignment model to be better at finding the things that people are going to do the patterns that people are going to try to use to get around the restrictions

1:47:38David Imel:so they want it to be less gullible why don't they just tell Fable to tell it all the things that people can do to get around it because I thought it could do everything

1:47:46Marques Brownlee:you got me I don't know why they don't try it this is why I don't work at Anthropocene look it's a combination of like apparently this model is freaking insane and opus was already insane and we vibe coded a lot of crazy with it but um it's just kind of crazy to like release it to public for one month and then pull it and i like i can you could wrap your you can that could be an excuse i could understand partially kind of maybe but obviously they're trying to get people to pay for the api because 20 a month there was there's a been a lot of data that's come out that like these$20 a month plans cost these companies$5 ,000.

1:48:22So they need people to pay per token. So anyway, that's the whole thing. I just wanted to say that. It was impossible. Anyway, we had to talk about it briefly.

1:48:33David Imel:My question with this is, do you think this was all planned already? Yeah. This was part of the rollout, right? They announced Mythos. And then a month later or 40-something days later, they're like, actually, we also have these safeguards. They've done this multiple times. like this is like the second or third time that they've been like it's too dangerous to release this to the public and then they release it to the public money please yeah because the economy is going to crash pretty soon after the SpaceX IPO and the Anthropic IPO and the OpenAI IPO by the way on the same day as DubDub OpenAI filed to confidentially IPO which was not that confidential do these companies know what confidential means because we keep hearing about it it's not going to be confidential if you just file right yeah but then they say that they did it yeah oh yeah i don't know is it confidentially or confidently both i also think it's cool that apple and chat gpt are breaking up a little bit they haven't officially broken up yeah that that

1:49:31Marques Brownlee:whole thing where you could like you'd ask siri a question and we go you mind if i ask chat gpt this question yeah it doesn't necessarily need to do that anymore yeah so that's nice so that's cool yeah yeah all right i know that we're running low on time it's time for trivia

1:49:50David Imel:that was nice trivia dude yeah marker so i do points marquez 26 andrew 25 david 31 first question in the siri ai section a notification popped up that said the golden Gate Bridge is painted in a color officially known as what?

1:50:13Marques Brownlee:Sure did. Tim Cook. I can't believe I remember this. This is one of those... If you get this right, I will be shocked. This is maybe the most specific thing you could ask me that I remember reading the notification and I'm pretty sure I haven't. That's crazy. Okay. Yeah. We'll see.

1:50:28David Imel:Reading the notification? Yeah, like the notification up on the screen. Well, because the other question's about a... Oh, no. It's about a destination. Yeah. Just kidding. Is it the journey or the destination? Flip and read.

1:50:40Marques Brownlee:What do you got? Oh, I think you're right, Marquez. I remember it saying it was painted in this international orange, which is like this universal color of like high contrast or whatever that they used for the button on your Appalachia Ultra. Oh. Correct.

1:50:59David Imel:The Appalachia Ultra button

1:51:00Marques Brownlee:is the same color as the Golden Gate Bridge. It didn't age the same. That's true.

1:51:04David Imel:I mean, that hasn't been around as long as the Golden Gate Bridge. Exactly.

1:51:07Marques Brownlee:International.

1:51:08David Imel:I knew it was orange, so I wrote Nixon 5. Nice. Correct. That'll be really funny because there's a game tonight and we don't know. I won't give him the game. I won't give him the point. All right. David, what did you say? I wrote California Poppy. Did you say correct? Good guess. Yeah, I was saying correct. I was going to give you the point, but then David yelled it. Because he also agrees that it's Nixon 5. It's Nixon 4. Oh, okay. They already swept. We just live in an alternate reality. Okay.

1:51:33Marques Brownlee:All right. Next question. Nixon 4. Where is the flight to? Okay. Somewhere you go hiking. yes wait what's the question again oh when demonstrating new siri ai functionality in vision pro they showed us a person going on a trip somewhere and checking if their backpack would fit in the overhead bin of a flight where were they going cupertino little bear big bear lake big bear lake which we were wrong about I'm okay with Golden Gate. I like New Jersey. This is tough for me because I was just in an airport where I was reading lots of abbreviations for different airports, and that's in my head right now, and I can't think of anything else.

1:52:20Marques Brownlee:Atlanta. I learned a lot of new airport city codes yesterday. Name all of them. Oh, you like airports? All right, what do we got? I said Patagonia. It's for fun. I wish.

1:52:32David Imel:I said Rocky Mountain.

1:52:34Marques Brownlee:I said Norway.

1:52:36David Imel:It was international, right?

1:52:38Marques Brownlee:It was international. They were going to Iceland. Oh, right. I did know that. I remember that. That's the Vision Pro environment. Wait, why would he have to go on that trip if he just has the Vision Pro environment?

1:52:52David Imel:He wants to wear his boots in Vision Pro? He can already do that. He wears boots and just use the Vision Pro and be in the environment. It was an REI backpack. Was it La Sportiva boots? like I'm remembering all the stupid stuff.

1:53:05Marques Brownlee:The first iteration of this question was going to ask what the backpack was, but we thought it was more fun to ask where the phone was. Ah, I wish I got that. Well, that is it for this week's recap episode of Waveform. Obviously, a lot more to come. We'll be testing these things. Let us know again, like I said, in the comments if there's certain things you want us to test for future episodes and for the full reviews. But yeah, like I said, thanks for subbing. catch you guys in our next regularly scheduled programming and since you made it this far Kool-Aid see you in the next one where do you come up with these two minutes after the episode goes live it's going to be all Kool-Aid somehow

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