BEST OF: Dumb Things We Thought When We Were Kids

14 Jul 2025 · 42 min · 20 chapters

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In short

“Best of” episode from What Fresh Hell? Laughing in the Face of Motherhood, focused on dumb/magical things the hosts and listeners believed as kids—often later revealed as wrong or based on parents’ “mom lies.”

Guests

No guest interviewees in this episode. Hosts are Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson. Mentions include: “Amanda Montel” (author of The Age of Magical Overthinking) and “Maggie”/listener contributors, but they do not appear as interviewed guests.

Key claims

Childhood “magical thinking” can be adorable but also problematic; adults sometimes plant literal misunderstandings; kids often interpret phrases and media as real.

Notable examples

“Love Boat” filmed on cruises; “Muppet Show” filmed with a human audience; “L-M-N-O-P” as one word; “rest to shore” as literal; taxi availability light; “Hortense” monster in a closet; toys/dolls coming alive when adults leave; “meningitis” misheard as “Ben & Jerry’s.”

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Chapters

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Childhood Misconceptions

1:01 to 6:16

Exploring silly beliefs the hosts had as children.

“Hello, everyone, and welcome to What Fresh Hell?”

Listener Shared Stories

6:18 to 9:56

The hosts share funny childhood beliefs from listeners.

“Abby's reminded me of your dad with his dad in the Tappan Sea Bridge.”

Creative Monster Tales

9:58 to 13:32

Discussing the imaginative stories children create.

“shiny blinkies that's all I see wow well I mean that is amazing but I will cop to something just as dumb dumb.”

Sibling Imagination and Fear

13:34 to 14:01

How the hosts used creativity to manage sibling interactions.

“I had a shelf of dolls, like cabbage patch stuff and other kinds of dolls too that were actually pretty nice.”

Childhood Performance of Hortense

14:01 to 16:23

Exploring the playful imagination of childhood through a character named Hortense.

“are you in there I would do this voice I'm gonna see if I can still do the voice I'm not sure I can oh gosh dig deep actress Amy what do you want that was terrifying it's very bad for your voice to do.”

Childhood Performance of Hortense

16:30 to 17:38

Exploring the playful imagination of childhood through a character named Hortense.

“Now available in Canada and the UK, too.”

Childhood Performance of Hortense

17:50 to 19:05

Exploring the playful imagination of childhood through a character named Hortense.

“Okay, folks, for the first time ever, I have a kid who is truly out of the house.”

Magical Thinking in Childhood

19:17 to 21:53

Discussing the concept of magical thinking and its implications in child development.

“Speaking of magical thinking, which I think sometimes is, yes, fully implanted by parents, and then sometimes kids come up with this.”

Recollections of Money and Cashiers

21:53 to 24:08

Reflecting on childhood perceptions of money and cash registers.

“I mean, I think that A, there's a certain boredom that goes along with being in the car that even the DVD can't replace.”

Trading Houses and Childhood Logic

24:08 to 27:39

Examining childhood misunderstandings about moving and trading houses.

“We were looking for like a birthday present or something before we went.”
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Toys with Inner Lives

27:39 to 28:00

Exploring the belief that toys have lives of their own, inspired by Raggedy Ann.

“Well, it was helpful to me because when it came on, I'm like, oh, totally.”

Childhood Beliefs About Toys and Movies

28:00 to 31:56

Explore the misconceptions and beliefs children have about toys and movies, such as Toy Story's origins.

“And he was sort of like limply dragging his like, you know, doorstop limbs.”

Parenting Myths and Misconceptions

31:56 to 32:56

Discussion on various myths and funny misconceptions parents and kids hold, like goldfish exploding.

“We'll be back with even more dumb things we thought when we were kids.”

Parenting Myths and Misconceptions

33:03 to 33:29

Discussion on various myths and funny misconceptions parents and kids hold, like goldfish exploding.

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More Dumb Things Moms Believe

33:32 to 36:51

Continuation of humorous beliefs about parenting and childhood, highlighting absurd myths.

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Shared Nonsense from Our Childhoods

36:51 to 42:01

A humorous take on shared absurdities and tales from childhood, reflecting on how they shaped us.

“Maybe this section is going to shift into useful things that you can tell your kids.”

Childhood Misconceptions

42:01 to 43:33

Explore the silly things children believe, highlighting amusing anecdotes.

“My mommy told me different and I believe my mommy.”

Community Connection

43:33 to 43:54

Learn about the supportive Facebook group and its role in connecting parents.

“And remember what dummies we were when we were kids.”

Community Connection

43:59 to 44:29

Learn about the supportive Facebook group and its role in connecting parents.

“And you will also be finding out in that spot about our very exciting news.”

Upcoming Tour Announcement

44:29 to 45:02

Get excited about the hosts' upcoming tour and how fans can join them.

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Transcript

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1:01Amy Wilson:Hello, everyone, and welcome to What Fresh Hell? Laughing in the Face of Motherhood. This is Margaret. And this is Amy. And this week, it's a fun one, you guys. We're going to talk about the dumb things we thought when we were kids. We for sure thought were totally facts. That were not facts. Yes, this is somewhat based on the fact that my dad, my father's father, They lived in view of what used to be known here in New York as the Tappan Zee Bridge. Now the Governor Mario Cuomo Bridge. But I'm kind of team Tappan Zee ever, Mario Cuomo never bridge. It's like Shea Stadium, Tappan Zee Bridge. Right.

1:39Amy Wilson:You can try to update me. But yeah, you could just tell my age because I'm always going to call it the Tappan Zee. It's the Tappan Zee. And there was a light switch on their wall that didn't work. And he would go over. he knew they turned on the bridge at, let's say, like 645. And he would go over at 645 and flip it on and say, I have I got to turn my bridge on and he would flip the light, the bridge light would go on. And apparently, my father went to school and told everyone that's my dad's bridge. And they were like, No, you idiot, it's not. I have two things I thought as a kid that I carried fully into adulthood.

2:14I mean, it's not long ago, this realization came to me that the love boat was not actually filmed the love boat it's an old deluxe alert out of the gate sorry guys back in my day but it was a silly tv show set on a cruise ship and they would show them setting sail and then they would dock at the end it was the week of the cruise was every episode and i really thought that the cast for that week boarded the ship and like the people playing the crew on the love boat were the crew and they'd set sail and they'd record like there was a script and everything. It was, you know, there were actors playing characters.

2:46So you knew it wasn't a reality show. It wasn't really happening. Yeah, it wasn't a reality show. But I was certain that they recorded it during the week at sea that you got to go on a cruise if you got to be an episode of the love boat.

2:57Amy Wilson:Yeah, you were filming on the cruise. Yeah. And I was like 35 before I figured out wait a minute, that was all on a soundstage. I don't think that's what was going on. And I've been on a soundstage. It's a very strange thing for me not to have put together until adulthood, but I didn't. That's amusing. And the love boat had a particular, I feel like magical draw for us watching it because it used a lot of like kids were on the boat, you know, and teen romances. Jill, the captain's daughter, her name was Jill. And she was lived at sea. No need to go to school. She was like 12. And she got to just be in the...

3:35Amy Wilson:She was what do we say 1516? Yeah, maybe you're Right. Maybe more like 12, 13. She was young. And then, yeah, it was. But she just got to hang on to the boat. Yeah. I just think when you, there weren't a lot of ton of shows where you watch where there were like tweens on TV. And that was the one. Maybe that's crazy because there was a pretty bunch of stuff. But something about the love boat, they were having exciting adventures, you know? Yes. It was exciting adventures. I also thought until like, again, you know, a grown person that the Muppet show was actually filmed like in a theater. with like 300 people watching and clapping.

4:10They so successfully make it feel like you're watching a live show being filmed that I felt like that wasn't a laugh track, that people were there while they were filming it.

4:18Amy Wilson:But you're picturing, now I have to dial down on your logic here because I think there's a problem with it. They pan to the audience and it's 300 humans? Because I think sometimes they did pan to the audience. It was Muppets. And it would be chickens or whatever. It would be chickens. No, but the laugh track was humans. You'd hear laughs and you'd hear reaction and you'd hear applause. there were definitely human sounds. I mean, not for nothing, Amy, but the humans did the Muppet voices. I mean, it could have still been Muppets. Well, it was just somebody pressing a button, but it sounded like you thought it was in a theater.

4:48Yeah, like I really bought into the whole like, everybody get on stage, it's time for the next number. And then in real time, they ran out and did the number for people that were watching. They showed us Muppets watching because that was the, I don't know, the idiom, but that there were real people there while it was happening. There should have been. I mean, there weren't, but there should have been. I mean, there were some there were the Muppeteers, but yeah, not a ton, not an audience, not an invited audience. I have a friend who cried and cried when that show was not on all of a sudden one Sunday night at seven because it hit her like a ton of bricks that she was never going to be the guest star on The Muppet Show.

5:22Amy Wilson:Wait. Oh, it was like it was over and she wouldn't get her chance. It was over. It wasn't coming on the TV anymore. It's like, what do you mean? Like, I will never be. Yeah. Sid Charisse. I'll never be the person on The Muppet Show. This is definitely a strong lane in my brain that the kids have an expression now, big main character energy. And it's not a compliment, but I definitely watched everything with like, what is my role? Who would I be on the love boat? Like, how would I host the Muppet show when I get my chance to host the Muppet show? What will my number be? Yeah, like I definitely watch everything with like, how do I fit into the scene?

6:00Amy Wilson:Yeah, well, all kids do. That's the egocentrism of childhood. Yeah, I just never grew out of it, I think, is the problem. This one reminded me, we went to our Facebook group, facebook.com slash groups slash WhatFreshLcast. We asked them, what were the incredibly dumb things you actually believed as a kid? We got bajillions of answers. Abby's reminded me of your dad with his dad in the Tappan Sea Bridge. Abby says, we had an old 1970s Chevy Silverado pickup truck with a metal logo plate that It said Chevrolet on the inside dashboard. I thought you could honk the horn by pressing the Chevrolet on the dashboard because every time I did, my dad would actually honk the horn from the steering wheel.

6:39I loved Abby's conclusion. We lived in a small town. I'm sure everyone thought something was wrong with our car.

6:45Amy Wilson:Why are those people always honking? Yes. It's sweet. I like Jill's. I have also had this thought. Thought L-M-N-O-P was one letter. Thought it was a word. Yeah, definitely been there. Mm-hmm. H-I-J-K and right. And then L-M-N-O-P. That's one word. Yeah, that's one letter. Like onomatopoeia, L-M-N-O-P. Onomatopoeia, L-M-N-O-P. I used to think, I mean, we're talking like five, six years old, young, but I used to think that when adults made arguments, they were saying, first, a ball, you know, kids don't belong in here. Second, a ball, you're not supposed to be in here with your shoes on. I thought they were saying first, a ball second a ball and why would that be the no logic well i was so young i was so young that i was trying to like sound like an adult i mean i didn't know i'm like i don't know what they're talking about balls but that's clearly how grown-ups say it there's a first ball and a second ball when you're making an argument i didn't understand what a ball was first a ball second a ball i had a friend who thought and it makes more sense than a ball frankly that the expression was rest to shore, like rest to shore, it's going to be fine.

7:54Amy Wilson:Rest to shore, like rest on the shore. Yeah, like you've swum your race and now rest on the shore. It's going to be fine. I like that better. Let's say that instead. Yeah, let's just make that the real thing. Rest to shore. And I'm like, yeah, I get it. Like you're drowning, but rest to shore. It's all going to be okay. I get it. You're not drowning now. You're on the shore. You're not drowning anymore. Rest to shore. Tina says she used to think animators would draw cartoons in real time really, really fast. That one I never had. I'm hoping Tina was quite young when she had this belief. Did you have the flip books when you were little?

8:30Amy Wilson:I mean, they still have them. Oh, the most amazing. I mean, when I figured out that that's how animation worked, which was through a flip book, and I have a kid who's interested in animation and would draw like a little stick figure man jumping in his own flip book. and it still just knocks me out. You draw a series of pictures and then you play them one after each other fast and it's animation. It still knocks my socks off. I'm amazed he completed his flip book. That's one of those rainy afternoon things like I'm going to make a flip book that shows like a birthday party for, you know, 14 dolls and then you'd get like eight drawings in and give it up because that's...

9:06Amy Wilson:Forget it. He was smart because he would just do a stick man doing like a back flip and it's only like 35 drawings and it's a stick figure. That's a good one. Becca thought that when she was little that cars with red lights were driving on their side of the road as they were driving and cars with white lights had to drive on the other side of the road. That's how you knew which side to drive on. She's like, took me a little too long to figure out there were headlights and taillights. But how would you know that? I'm going to say, and this someone will probably take my license away. Maybe I should be like, I know somebody who thought this.

9:35Amy Wilson:I was waiting for somebody to pull out of a spot. And the friend I was with said, well, they don't have their brake lights on. I did not realize there was a different set of lights if you were pressing on the brake until I'm gonna say three years ago like that you could know someone was getting out of a spot because they had a certain there was lights that told you that no idea I did not know I was like shiny blinkies that's all I see wow well I mean that is amazing but I will cop to something just as dumb dumb. I lived in New York for about three or four years before I understood that if the taxi had the light on at the top, that meant that they were available for hire.

10:18And if they didn't have the light on, that meant there was already somebody inside. I would wave frantically and equally at each taxi that passed me, not understanding that you could tell.

10:27Amy Wilson:They're like, lady, get a clue. My light is not on. Yeah. Finally, when somebody was like, you know, I was on a date and the guy was like, you know that you can tell the difference like of course i do i'm not dumb the guy is like i'm not dating this dumb dumb anymore i had no idea he was like get me out of this amber thought that when candidates were running for office they were running a physical race pictured them sprinting that maybe this is how we should do it this might just solve a lot of our problems it's like who can run faster that's the only contest i mean i'm not even sure in our current like main uh thing who would win a running down the street.

11:04Tough to call, but let's just try it. That's the winner. So we need a young, healthy candidate. It's right. If you're going to run through the street. That's the winner.

11:12Amy Wilson:No, it's just a running race. Yes. My, I babysat for a kid once who said that I was like, well, in the meantime, in the meantime, in the meantime. And he said, I don't like the meantime. What happens in the meantime? Just an expression. First of all, it's not really mean time. First of all, rest assured, it's not really a mean time. When Shelby was young, she thought the same thing that everybody thought, I think, which was that all the songs on the radio were being performed live. And somebody else said that like Billy Joel was actually driving very quickly from one radio station to another to perform for you.

11:47Amy Wilson:Tough job for Billy Joel in the 80s. He was very popular. He had to really get around. I have a friend who's Irish, and he recently referred to him as Billy Joel. And we like laughed for like 45 minutes. Oh, Billy Joel. He's like, that's what we called him. Like, what's not what we call him. And he's American. Billy Joel. It's not what he calls himself, frankly, let's be honest. It's not his name. It's not Joel. Maggie said she thought that she could yell hello to her grandparents at the end of her driveway and they would hear her despite living three hours away. I mean, some of this magical thinking, as we call it, like the way that kids think is, I know we're not here to learn, Amy, I get that.

12:31Amy Wilson:But I do think it can be very like useful for kids that thing of let's shut the door. My daughter and I, we have TV shows that we watch together. And we often crawl up in my bed. And I have sliding doors on my closet, which because I'm a chaos person are always open. And she walks in and she's like, are we just going to let the monsters devour us whole while we sit here? Like we have to shut the closet doors. It's like this little joke that we have. But it's true that who could sleep with their closet doors ajar? Like that's where the monsters live. You have to shut the closet doors to keep them in.

13:05Amy Wilson:And I think the idea of you could go down here and yell to grandma who lives three hours away, like go down and yell good night. There's something magical and very fun about those kind of traditions within the family. Even turning on the bridge at night is that way. And most of them are implanted by the grownups in their lives, right? Like to your closet example, I had two younger sisters. They were born when I was 11 and 12 years old. And so they would like to come in my room and touch my stuff while I was at school. I mean, you know, what else is there to do? Unacceptable. And I had a doll collection.

13:35I had a shelf of dolls, like cabbage patch stuff and other kinds of dolls too that were actually pretty nice. And I didn't really play with them. I just sort of had them. And even though I was now like a young teenager, I still like had these dolls and wanted them to be nice and they'd touch them. so I told my sisters that there was a monster named Hortense that lived in my closet and I would bring them in the room with me and I would you know go up to the door and be like Hortense are you in there I would do this voice I'm gonna see if I can still do the voice I'm not sure I can oh gosh dig deep actress Amy what do you want that was terrifying it's very bad for your voice to do.

14:15And I would be, I would do a performance of Hortense. I mean, it was just me talking into the closet with my back to my two very credulous young sisters. And I wouldn't be mean. I wasn't like, I'm going to eat children. I just was like, you know, I'm busy today. I would be kind of Oscar the Grouch in my temperament. You know what I mean? Like, not mean. Now, were you doing this as a bit or were you doing it to legit keep them out of the room? Thought I was doing it as a bit, right. And it was, you know, like when we were all adults, they're like, I like almost couldn't walk in that part of the house because what if Hortense got me?

14:44Amy Wilson:Hortense, you picked such a terrible name, like such a terrifying name. Hortense is the meanest name I can think of. No offense if your name is Hortense. Well, this is my freshman high school year. I had two classes, algebra and Latin with Miss Hortense Shurtleff, who has gone to heaven now. She was a really, really nice woman. Well, she was an excellent teacher and she broke no fools. You know what no nonsense. And so it was probably thinking of her that I picked the name of a monster that just wasn't going to let that stuff fly. You're not going to let my sisters in my room. Good choice. I would be scared.

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19:11That's code hell at HeyPolo.com slash hell. Speaking of magical thinking, which I think sometimes is, yes, fully implanted by parents, and then sometimes kids come up with this. This is an example of the one that you come up with on your own as a kid. Renee said, on long car rides, I used to look at the map to follow along on the roads and the mile markers we were passing. I truly thought that if I timed it just right, my little five-year-old pointer finger tracing the map in the car would also appear on the side of the road somehow as a giant finger like coming from space. Nope, I'm not understanding it.

19:47Explain it to me again. She's dragging her finger along the map while they're driving. And if she can figure out with her finger on the map exactly where the car is in space, then her finger will come from space. Then she'll see a giant version of her finger also outside the window touching the point on the road that matches the point on the map. And she says, Renee, the fact that she never saw it was because she just never quite got the timing right. Got the timing right.

20:15Amy Wilson:Yes. Right. Not because that would be weird and impossible to happen. Yes. We talked, Amanda Montel, we just had on the podcast and she has a new book called The Age of Magical Overthinking. And it talks a lot about magical thinking and how it kind of rules and defines our lives in all of these interesting ways. But the ideas of magical thinking, I mean, as somebody who has some problems with OCD, I'm very wary of magical thinking because I tend to get very like, I can keep this airplane in the air if I never release these two fingers from the seat rest, you know, and although it sounds absurd when I say it out loud.

20:55Amy Wilson:But look at your record. Look at your track record. It's working so far. But that's the problem, Amy. Like, did we win? Did the Giants win the Super Bowl the year so that I only ate the cupcakes that corresponded to the defense and offense? Yes, they did. Like, I might actually be doing it. That's the problem. And so magical thinking, adorable and problematic, as it turns out. Well, this also, it makes me think, as we're sitting here, like these things that we came up with about the mile markers on the side of the road, a five-year-old would not be doing that now. Because if you're five, there's a DVD player, and you're watching something on DVD.

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21:30And if you're eight, you have your mom's phone and whatever. Like these things that we came up with were only out of like complete boredom or just that sort of absent thinking that you have while you're driving or in the shower or whatever. I feel like it's good for kids to have that space and time in their head, even if they come up with crazy stuff like Renee thinking her giant finger from space was going to appear on the side of the road.

21:51Amy Wilson:Yeah. And I still think they have it. I mean, I think that A, there's a certain boredom that goes along with being in the car that even the DVD can't replace. And also, like, I know that my, I see my kids when we come up to red lights, they're like green, like they're still doing the thing of like, I can change the light to green by saying green in this very slow voice and making this very magical gesture with my hand. Somebody was saying that I don't have it right here in front of me. But one of our listeners said that her mom had her thinking that you could concentrate and then blow like blowing out a birthday candle and you could make the lights change from red to green.

22:24And I thought, well, that's a mom having some fun. But in New York City, in a lot of big cities probably now, there's delayed changing of lights. It's gotten so long in New York City that like the traffic going north and south turns red, but the traffic going east and west, they're waiting for the light to turn green. And that delay now is sometimes like six seconds or something. And I think it just leads to like, it's that thing where you're a pedestrian and like, I'm just going to go. Am I going? Am I not going? Right. I'm just going to go. And that's when the light turns green that these super delayed lights are very confusing that you can't tell.

22:56And I thought, yeah, we were all, we were children of a time where it was like three, two, one, change. It was better. It was better as what I was saying. Three, two, one, change. Loved it. Lived for it. Yeah. Old days. Olden days. Dahlia says that she thought that cashiers got to keep the money they put in their registers. So she figured that was the most obvious career choice for her future. Same.

23:16Amy Wilson:Same. I was like, yeah, they make a lot of money. Yeah, definitely. Why wouldn't everybody be a cashier, right? That would be the most lucrative job in the world. Sell expensive stuff and you'd make even more money. Like work at the Lamborghini cash register. Yeah, you just, people hand you cash all day long. It's amazing. This is what I mean. Like back when you're in the store with your mom and she's writing a check or whatever and they're digging out cash, like now it's just beep, bop, boop and money's invisible. Yeah, everything is. I mean, I just was running out this morning to do a couple errands and I just ran out with my phone in my hand.

23:55Amy Wilson:Like if I get stopped, I'm not going to have a driver's license with me because I'm constantly like, I just need my phone. I'm going to grab something at the little convenience store. I got to get my broken nail fixed. Everybody just takes the phone, the phone paying. I remember being in a mall. My husband dropped me off. I went in with the kids. We were looking for like a birthday present or something before we went. Of course, we were like buying the birthday present on the way to the party that was in the store. So and I went running in and I was like, oh, no, I left my wallet in the car. So then I'm calling my husband.

24:26Amy Wilson:You have to come in. And the lady at the register said, well, if you have a phone, you could just pay for it with your phone. And I was like, what is this wizardry you're speaking of? Pay for something with my phone? And she's like, you just double click. And I was like, oh, no, this is the end of it all. This is the end of it all. Right. But yeah, as long as you have your phone with you, you're good. It's your desert island object. Mary says that she thought when you moved, you were just trading houses with another family. I mean, technically, you probably are. But they have to come to your house.

24:55Amy Wilson:Oh, yeah, you're right. I mean, you're all trading houses. Eventually. There's a very large pot. The human race is mostly just trading houses. I mean, when you think about it, right, we're all just trading houses. That's like something you could put on a t-shirt. We're all just trading houses. We're all just walking each other home. Until we die. And trading houses. Yeah. I mean, that's right. They don't have to go live in your house. That would be a funny system. But no, you are just moving into someone's house and they're moving into someone else's house who's just moving into someone else's house.

25:25It would be kind of, I mean, it's kind of like a VRBO kind of thing, which you're supposed to say Vrbo, right? How old were you when you realized from the ads that they wanted us to say Vrbo instead of VRBO?

25:36Amy Wilson:Never. I was never old. I don't even know that now. you're telling me new information if you go in the ads yeah they say verbo it's verbo and i'm like what i'll call it what i want thank you very much it's arab and verbo that's it hayley was utterly convinced as a kid that you couldn't drink and drive as in drink anything even water uh she's not the only person who said this one several people are like oh yeah me too me too me too my brother. Yes, yes. Not allowed to drink while you drive. Yeah. Or that sleeping with somebody being a potentially life changing choice for a young girl meant sleeping in the same room as somebody.

26:16I definitely thought that. Yeah. See, we use these euphemisms with kids and they're just like, they're literal. That's a category. I'm going to make categories here. Like there's the magical thinking that kids have. And then the magical thinking that their parents thrust upon them, right? But then there's also the like overly literal application of don't drink and drive.

26:34Amy Wilson:Emily believed that her stuffed animals and dolls came alive and had a whole entire lives when she left the room. She blames Raggedy Ann and Andy, the movie, a live action when the kid was around, they were just dolls. And then cartoons when the kid left the dolls alone, they came to life. This, by the way, is an old deluxe alert. Back in my day, it's a very old Old Deluxe. Raggedy Ann and Andy themselves are on Old Deluxe Alert. There's got to be somebody listening. Like, I don't know what they are. I mean, yeah, they were raggedy rag dolls. That was a selling point. I mean, Raggedy Ann and Andy were Old Deluxe when we were kids.

27:10Amy Wilson:I mean, they're like oldie timey dolls. They're really rag dolls. They're made of fabric and are really floppy. That was their thing, right? That's what they did. And they were, were they lovers or brother and sister? I cannot believe you just used the word lovers. That's so upsetting. Trigger warning, please. I think they were just friends. I think they were brother and sister, you gross monster. I don't know what the backstory was of them. I've watched a little bit of this YouTube clip that Emily, she helpfully dropped a link to this YouTube to this. Was it helpful or was it disturbing? Fever dream.

27:45Well, it was helpful to me because when it came on, I'm like, oh, totally. I remember this. It was like a late 70s. I remember my sisters watching it, so I think it stuck around. where everybody I was watching part that was like a camel, that again, he was also, the camel's whole song was about, he was a draggity, draggity, draggy camel. And he was sort of like limply dragging his like, you know, doorstop limbs.

28:09Amy Wilson:We have to do a whole episode. Well, maybe it's a subscriber episode where we walk people through the nightmarish entertainment that we were subjected to as children. Yeah, like our favorite shows. It would not fly today. those Marty Croft puppets oh that yeah skull who read horror stories what was his name the death man the crypt keeper yeah all right you're on that's our next subscriber episode and this is pretty much what our subscriber episodes are usually even like even more bonus of us visiting the nonsense of our past but this is just Toy Story like I thought Toy Story had an original plot but apparently it was stolen from the 1977 movie Raggedy Ann and Andy it was just stolen from in the minds of every child.

28:50Amy Wilson:Like, I think every child believes that their toys have an inner life. I mean, that they're, yes, that's why Toy Story is so wonderful. And to me, like also deeply disturbing. Like it's somehow it's too much to bring that idea to life. You know what I mean? It's too deep a cut. Yes. Like I can't take it. I've seen more than once somebody will set up as their kid is leaving for college, like walking down the sidewalk to leave to college, like a photograph of the kid walking down the sidewalk to the you know packed car for college and then they'll set up the like woody and buzz like in the doorway like waving goodbye cut it out people it's too deep for me i can't do it that's not funny you're freaking me out guys it doesn't hurt so good it just hurts i don't want to see leslie believed firmly that the line on the bottom of her grandmother's pool that separated the deep end from the shallow end had an ability to open up she says my cousins and i believe that if you stepped on that line the bottom of the pool would suddenly open and dozens of sharks would be released from the secret waters below.

29:50Amy Wilson:She's totally right. I mean, what's the problem? She did follow up by saying, I have never stepped on that lawn and I never will, you know, adult or otherwise. Yeah, we had a lot of lore about using the bathroom that like things, you know, alligators lived in the sewers or come up and bite you on the butt. And like, it still gets me. I'm decades later and every once in a while, I still get a little creepy feeling. So that's what's wrong with social media, because I feel like stuff like that, those, you know, old wives tales are like, and the alligator is going to get you like, yeah, yeah, like there'd ever be an alligator in the toilet.

30:20And then you open Twitter and it's like, you know, Florida man finds alligator in toilet like this stuff. Oh, yeah,

30:26Amy Wilson:it does actually happen once in a while in Florida. I had a babysitter who told me when I was probably seven or eight that you get nightmares if you lay on your back. I am solidly at my middle age, I do not sleep on my back because it gives you nightmares. How is your nightmare ratio? Yeah. I whenever I have a nightmare, I think, oh, I must have been sleeping on my back and I roll over like it's crazy how I think I have a very suggestible mind. Like if I join a cult, you'll be like, see, she was right. Very suggestible. Megan says she thought the cast of the Mighty Ducks movie were, in fact, professional hockey players as well as actors.

30:59Does she mean the Disney movie with like the Bad News Bears kids playing professional hockey players? She means the Mighty Ducks. Don't you know the movie The Mighty Ducks? I thought the Mighty Ducks was like Bad News Bears, but hockey. It is. But it's kids, right? It's not adults. Or is it adults? Is it cool runnings and everybody's adults and they're terrible, but it's fun? Or is it Bad News Bears where they're kind of like 12 and they're terrible, but it's fun?

31:18Amy Wilson:I mean, it's a deep cut. I think they're adults. Isn't Amelia Estevez one of the Mighty Ducks? He's the coach. He's the coach. Is the Mighty Ducks children or adults? Margaret's pretending to think about it and she's actually looking it up right now. So I'll tell you while I'm doing this. Have I told this story? I think I have along the way. that I worked for the commissioner of the NHL for about six months. It's about a youth league hockey team. It's a youth league. Okay, so Megan thought that these youths were actual professional NHL players at 12, as well as actors, which would really be something.

31:51They would really have had their busy lives, really have done a lot with their lives so far. All right, let's take a break. We'll be back with even more dumb things we thought when we were kids.

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33:39Amy Wilson:And now, dumb things moms believe. From the What Fresh Hell podcast. Food eaten off of kids' plates while standing up doesn't actually count as eating food. What is that teacher talking about? My child is an angel. What is that teacher talking about? My child is a legit nightmare. If I just close my eyes and stomp on this invisible brake while sitting in the passenger seat while my teen is driving, it will surely stop the car. You know, I bet the kids are old enough that I can get that white couch I've been dreaming about without them ruining it. If it dips below 55 degrees, children will rapidly perish from the cold if they go out without a jacket on.

34:22I don't think anyone can even tell these pants are actually pajamas. My child would never behave so rudely. Oh my god, Brandon, what are you doing?

34:31Amy Wilson:Where are your pants? Who, me? Oh no, I don't need any help. I'm doing great. I've got it all covered. I'm not even tired. Definitely not. I bleedingly exhausted. Nope, I am totally fine. This has been Dumb Things That Moms Believe. From the What Fresh All Podcast.

35:02Allison says she grew up thinking the parking lot to get into Toys R Us was confusing because that was what her mom told her when they drove past and did not stop at Toys R Us. And did not stop at Toys R Us because the parking lot was too confusing.

35:17Amy Wilson:The parking lot was too confusing. This is, that's the song the ice cream truck plays when they're out of ice cream. Yes. It's just straight up mom lies. That's a free one, guys. Some parking lots are just too confusing to stop in. Sorry. Tough break. Nicole's dad, this is similar. These are related. Nicole's dad told her that they didn't get MTV on their TV because of the mountains that were nearby. Hilarious. Nicely done. She says, I was out of high school before I figured out this was a load of - Not actually true. Nonsense. Yeah, a lot of this stuff is parents lying to us and us being too dumb to believe it and then figuring it out when we're like 40 years old.

35:59Amy Wilson:My mom would refer to anybody she couldn't remember as FNU LANU. Do you know that expression? That's definitely, I think that was a her special. It was? FNU LANU. FNU LANU. But do you know what it stands for? First name unknown, last name unknown. It's FNU NLU. Oh. First name unknown, last name unknown. And so she would be like, oh, that's Fanu Lanou. That was her expression and she said it all the time. And it's some sort of code speak. I mean, she didn't invent it, but it took me a long time to figure out what she was talking about. Can I keep that one? That's what I'm going to take with me today.

36:37Amy Wilson:Fanu Lanou. I mean, it's like, oh, you know, she's like the Fanu Lanou from down the street. It's a very useful and funny Bronx lady expression, which my mother was a Bronx lady. and she's finoon a little new. Maybe this section is going to shift into useful things that you can tell your kids. Emily says her mom had all of them convinced that if we sat on the hood of the car, we would put too much pressure on the engine, which could make it explode. She says, I believe this until college. She thinks her mother just didn't want her car to get scratched. Yeah, I think that's probably right. She didn't want butt dents on her hood.

37:14Amy Wilson:That's why she said it. Meredith says, her sister told her, that if you took the cigarette lighter out of the car, the car would blow up and I 100 % believed her. Now, a cigarette lighter is an oldie Lux alert in a big way. They don't have them in cars anymore. But I would say I spent 10 % of my youth in a car threatening my brothers and sisters and they threatening me with a lit cigarette lighter. We would push it in. So it was a little button and you would push it in and it would get glowingly red hot and you would chase each other around the car trying to touch each other with it. Like that was our it never occurred to me to do that.

37:51Amy Wilson:The other big game we like to play is we locked each other in suitcases and then roll them down the staircase. Like what the heck? How did we survive our childhood? I don't know.

38:03Amy Wilson:Oh my god. This was clearly before tort laws where you could like sue car manufacturers if kids had like circular burn rings all over their arms from putting the cigarette lighter on each other. I mean, that could fully like if you held that to the fabric seat, because also we're talking the era of fake leather or a weird fabric airplane seats, like polyester that was made of Yeah, I mean, wouldn't that wouldn't that like light up in 30 seconds? I can't believe we drove around like this. To be clear, we did not burn each other with the cigarette lighter. It was just kind of a funny like we could if we wanted to like I've got it.

38:37Amy Wilson:Whoa. Kids in the backseat with that probably fine. They won't actually burn each other with that thing that would burn them if they touched it. They won't actually do it though, as if like a bump in the road couldn't cause somebody to get tagged by the cigarette lighter. Yeah, we couldn't do it when our parents, after our parents got in the car. It was like we would get in by ourselves. Super fun game. You're out there early. Katie says she thought the cream filling in Cadbury eggs was actual egg yolk, so she wouldn't eat it. I mean, good choice. It's disgusting. Gross, yeah. Chelsea says her mother told her when she was little that if she fed her goldfish too much, they would explode.

39:15I mean, I think I still have internalized this as a thing that fish can easily explode.

39:19Amy Wilson:Yeah, I believe that is fact. And that you'll drown if you go swimming within 30 minutes of eating any kind of food. Yeah, that you will immediately cramp up and drown even in a pool. We did an episode. I'm going to dig it out. I'm going to run it as a best of because it was a good one where we talked about the, you know, dubious science behind you have to wait half an hour to swim or 10 ,000 steps a day or whatever. Like I dug and I couldn't even really get to like who said 30 minutes after you swim. Just some mom. Some mom at the town pool said it once and everybody else was like, that's a good idea.

39:49I'm going to say that too. And it became accepted as fact.

39:52Amy Wilson:What I don't understand about it is it works against the mom. Like it just means they have to sit next to you for 30 minutes. What's the upside? I don't know. How does this scam work, frankly? I don't understand it. Getting them out of the pool long enough to actually eat something. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Melissa I believe we might have even talked about this on that episode as well if the interior lights are on in a car at night it would make all the other cars crash like I don't know exactly what I thought would happen if you turned a light on in the car but it was like of all the things that were forbidden in my childhood turning on the interior light in the car at night I guess it makes it harder I guess the it's not physics what is it it's the like I'm telling you guys, here's another free one.

40:35It works. If you have a hard time with the super bright headlights these days that are like LED and white light, and they're way brighter than they used to be, put the light on in your car. It immediately makes it easier to drive at night because the only light source isn't coming at you. It's also in your car. It's actually better for me to drive with the light on in the car.

40:53Amy Wilson:Amy, I could never do this. What are you suggesting? I mean, next, just tell me to, you know, fly to work in the morning, flapping my arms. It's not possible, blame me. I've been told that turning on the interior light is like the worst thing a human being can do. And again, I don't know. This is just like the waiting half an hour thing, because I don't know how that was working for our parents. I think my parents firmly believe that when they told me that too, that they'd be like, oh, I'll lose control of the vehicle as soon as we turn the light on for more than three seconds. I think they also believe that.

41:24Amy Wilson:No, but it is because in the oldie timeies, the lights, the interior light was super bright, So if you turned it on at night, you couldn't see out the windshield as well. That was the logic behind it. Yeah, I'm not sure it was true even then, but that was a lot. It messed up the vision. I think it was because like you would turn it on and you would see yourself in the windshield. They were that bright. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, now they're not as bright as the like operating room, like deep space floodlights coming at your eye from all these, you know, tall SUVs. So give it a shot. I'm here to tell you, you won't crash the car in the first five seconds.

42:01Amy Wilson:I don't believe you. I'll never believe you. My mommy told me different and I believe my mommy. Anna believes, believed slash believes that chocolate milk came from brown cows. Yeah, this is an oldie. And I feel like they put them on the box too, you know? They made us believe this. They fed us this lie. I just heard a story about a little kid who it was like a friend of a friend. The dad says to the kid, they're going on vacation. What's your favorite part of going on vacation what's it going to be honey they're going to someplace they go every year and this kid like he's like three or four he says meningitis and the dad's like sorry what what's your favorite part sweetheart meningitis is going to be my favorite part meningitis and she and the dad's like i don't get this so waits until the older sibling comes home from school and says will you ask him what is he saying older sibling asks meningitis is my favorite and so they're trying to figure out what the kid means finally the older sibling asks the kid what color is meningitis and the three-year-old is like well it's brown and it's dark brown and it's white and that's when the older sibling figured out that the favorite part of the vacation was ben and jerry's because it was fish food ice cream which is like chocolate ice cream with marshmallow fluff and then also like little chocolate fish it's meningitis it was going to be his favorite part of the vacation Men in jade us.

43:27Amy Wilson:Love it. Well, there was nothing to solve today, but we did take a trip down memory lane. No. And remember what dummies we were when we were kids. Were we dummies or what? We got all the answers for today from our Facebook group. We'll link to it in the show notes. Join the Facebook group. We talk about super silly stuff in there, but also super serious stuff. It's a lot of parents helping each other out and it's the nicest place on the internet. We're so proud of it. Yes. Awesome spot. Go to facebook.com forward slash groups forward slash what fresh hellcast to join the conversation over there.

44:01Amy Wilson:And you will also be finding out in that spot about our very exciting news. Amy and I are going on tour. That's right. We're going on tour this fall to Charlotte, Boston, Washington, DC, New York City and Philadelphia. Hopefully these are the first dates of more to come and you can find out more about our tour dates again by going to our Facebook page or by going to whatfreshhelppodcast.com and click where it says tour dates at the top. Believe me, we'll be making sure you guys know about it. Absolutely. You'll hear about nothing else in the fall. And we would love to see you come. What do they call those people who follow the Grateful Dead?

44:38Amy Wilson:You know, deadheads. Come be a fresh head. You can follow us to every single date. Take the fall off. Tell your spouse now not going to be available. I'm going on tour with Amy and Margaret. That'd be so fun. Really fun. Be fun for us. I think there's like four weeks between dates. So you could just live in my basement. That's also fine. Well, that's true. There's time to get a few things done at the library or something. It's a big commitment. Big commitment. And with that, thank you so much for listening. And we will talk to you next time. So long.

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