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In short

The “What Fresh Hell? Laughing in the Face of Motherhood” hosts (Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson) decode and debate Gen Z slang, explaining meanings, origins, and how quickly slang changes.

Guests

None. The episode is hosted by Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson, with examples drawn from their teenage/college-age kids.

Guest backgrounds (relevant to the episode): Margaret and Amy are parenting-podcast hosts; they rely on their children’s slang usage and discuss prior experience decoding teen slang for Steve Harvey’s show.

Key claims

Slang meanings are inconsistent even among teens; much slang is nonsense/“brain rot” or evolves through communities; by the time adults look terms up (e.g., via ChatGPT), slang may already be outdated.

Notable examples

“looks-maxer” (Clavicular), “mogged/frame-mogged” (outshined in looks), “Chad” vs “Chud,” “chopped/chuzz,” “bro-tato,” “headcanon,” “clip farming,” “aura farming,” “nerfed,” “ODing,” “LARPing,” “niche,” “glazing,” “PMO,” “SIBO,” “chalant.”

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Chapters

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Exploring Gen Z Slang

0:06 to 0:21

Margaret and Amy discuss their attempts to understand current Gen Z slang.

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Exploring Gen Z Slang

1:09 to 3:02

Margaret and Amy discuss their attempts to understand current Gen Z slang.

“Hello, everyone, and welcome to What Fresh Hell?”

Decoding Slang Terms

3:08 to 6:29

The hosts break down specific slang terms and their meanings as they quiz each other.

“See if you can translate this phrase for me.”

Understanding 'Chud' and 'Chopped'

6:30 to 9:12

Discussion about the terms 'Chud' and 'Chopped', their meanings and connotations.

“So Clavicular has committed some different infractions and ended up arrested.”

Slang Usage and Trends

9:13 to 13:24

Margaret and Amy discuss how slang evolves and the significance of using certain terms.

“I believe chud, like many slang terms, when used within the community with other members of the the community can be a term of endearment.”

Slang Usage and Trends

13:28 to 13:51

Margaret and Amy discuss how slang evolves and the significance of using certain terms.

“Oh, this summer, I'm trying to get better about wearing sunscreen as I go about my daily life, not just when I'm sitting poolside.”

Slang Usage and Trends

13:55 to 15:34

Margaret and Amy discuss how slang evolves and the significance of using certain terms.

“It's lightweight, it's fragrance-free, and it's non-greasy.”

Slang Usage and Trends

15:41 to 16:46

Margaret and Amy discuss how slang evolves and the significance of using certain terms.

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The Journey of Slang

17:06 to 22:13

Uncover how slang travels and evolves through different communities.

“So slang is super interesting and the way slang travels is super interesting.”

Decoding Teen Slang

22:13 to 24:56

Explore the challenges of understanding and decoding teen slang.

“And my kids are scattered all over the eastern seaboard of the United States at that point.”
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Understanding New Terms

24:56 to 28:07

Learn about new slang terms and their meanings in contemporary culture.

“They all tried this thing at the same time they were LARPing as emo or I don't know what, but like they all decided it was a good idea at the same time and a bad idea at the same time.”

Understanding Headcanon and Clip Farming

28:07 to 29:44

Learn about headcanon and the concept of clip farming in internet culture.

“It's like, I understand the character deeply.”

Understanding Headcanon and Clip Farming

29:45 to 31:00

Learn about headcanon and the concept of clip farming in internet culture.

“Amy, my part-time job lately has been refereeing the fights between my kids who fight like cats about our cats, whose turn it is to scoop the litter box.”

What You Are Doing Wrong: Parenting Insights

31:31 to 33:06

Explore humorous insights from kids on parenting mistakes.

“You couldn't make it sunny when it was raining at the park.”

Aura Farming and New Gen Z Slang

33:17 to 36:12

Delve into the meaning of aura farming and the evolution of Gen Z slang.

“You're trying to be cool and you're just embarrassing yourself.”

Exploring Niche and Rizz in Modern Language

36:13 to 38:06

Understand how terms like 'niche' and 'rizz' reflect contemporary language usage.

“Like, not in the mood to make dinner tonight.”

New Expressions: Glaze and PMO

38:07 to 41:24

Learn about the latest slang expressions like 'glaze' and 'PMO'.

“The original meaning in gaming, like designers of gamers, would say that something that was niche in a game was situational and not useful.”

Understanding Hain and Other Current Slang

41:25 to 42:00

Explore the meaning of terms like 'hain' and the nuances of slang usage today.

“But instead, that's PMOing so hard means that it's really pissing me off.”

Understanding Gen Z Slang

42:00 to 46:19

Explore the meanings and humorous anecdotes related to Gen Z slang terms.

“Have you seen the TikToks where people are like, it's people asking and they're like white people, I'm going home and black people.”

Understanding Gen Z Slang

46:20 to 47:38

Explore the meanings and humorous anecdotes related to Gen Z slang terms.

“I also, we're totally wrapping, but I have repeatedly pointed out to my children that Chud in my day stood for what?”

Understanding Gen Z Slang

47:41 to 48:19

Explore the meanings and humorous anecdotes related to Gen Z slang terms.

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0:39Amy Wilson:They're buns, frankly. What fresh hell. Laughing in the face of motherhood. Can I call you Brotato? With Margaret Ables. And Amy Wilson. They just maybe wanted cheese. A podcast that solves today's parenting dilemmas. So you don't have to. Kids today have 100 ,000 ways to tell you you're not all that.

1:09Amy Wilson:Hello, everyone, and welcome to What Fresh Hell? Laughing in the Face of Motherhood. This is Margaret. And this is Amy. Today, a very important episode. Do you know your slang? Amy, I'm not going to lie. of all the episodes, of the hundreds, close to a thousand episodes you and I have recorded together, this is the episode that has come closest to getting me permanently kicked out of my family. I tried to ask my kids about slang and they were so embarrassed by me and my questions that they were like, we will not talk to you about this and you are cringe. We're not even allowed to know what they're talking about, huh?

1:49They can't even...

1:50Amy Wilson:They just think it's cringe that we're even asking. They think it's embarrassing that we want to talk about this. They were appalled. My kids are teenagers and they were like, you're a monster for the question and we will not. What is the lady on Arrested Development say? I don't understand the question and I won't be answering it. That was basically their attitude. My kids are a little older. And what surprised me is they were very happy to talk to me about this. But I couldn't even get agreement from a high school student and a college student about what these words mean. What are words? Meaning is variable.

2:25In the main, they think they know what they mean. But when you really narrow it down, like, so you would say it this way? No, no, you wouldn't say it this way. Yes, you would. I have completely contradictory advice on this. Yeah.

2:34Amy Wilson:And I will also say that 90 % of the answers to what does this mean is it doesn't mean anything, which is basically like six, seven, right, where this all began. I mean, six, seven was the slang of forever. What does six, seven mean? It means nothing. That's what's important about it. So in this episode, we are both coming in blind. You and I have prepared separate lists of slang that the kids are using, and we're going to see if we can stump each other on what words mean that we may or may not have heard before this very moment. So you come in hot. You start. See if you can translate this phrase for me.

3:11Amy Wilson:I have two separate headlines that have two separate endings, but are fundamentally the same headline. Are you ready? I think so. Headline number one, looks maxer clavicular gets frame mogged by ASU frat leader. Okay. The second one is the same story, but a different event. Looks maxer clavicular gets mogged by Chad Judge. Break it down for me. What do you got? What parts do you understand? What parts don't you understand? I got clavicular, I got looks maxed, and I got mogged, but I don't know. So you got frame-mocked. Frame-mocked. So let me try to lay this out. Kavlikur is this 20-year-old who hits his jaw with a hammer and has a bajillion YouTube followers.

3:56Because he is a... Because he's super handsome. Because he's a looks-maxer.

3:59Amy Wilson:He's a looks-maxer. It's all he thinks about. His job is to look as good as possible, making him a looks-maxer. And they made fun of him on SNL using a woman to play him, and it made him cry on YouTube. Poor mama. He is very young. I mean, I do feel some sympathy as a mom for her clavicular because he seems like a lost soul. Where is his mother? But I don't think I would want my passion project at 20 to be making me famous. You know what I mean? Like at 20, I was probably lecturing the world on something, but I should not. And I'm so glad I was not being recorded at the time. Right. You were over beer and pizza lecturing somebody about green energy or something.

4:45but it wasn't really ready for. Yes. Yeah.

4:48Amy Wilson:It wasn't looks maxing. My name wasn't clavicular. Clavicular, it must mean like clavicle, right? I'm sure like clavicular thinks it means cool, but it probably means something to do with your collarbones. But I do not know the origin of the word clavicular. Yeah. But clavicular is a looks maxer. He is an influencer named clavicular who concentrates on looking as good as possible. Okay. So now we've gotten the first two words. Yeah. When you mog somebody. Frame mogged. Yeah. He gets mogged. This was on my list for you. To mog somebody means to outstrip them in looks. Like you went to the prom together, but you were mogging him means you looked way better than him.

5:26Correct. I just learned this one. So he got frame mogged by the ASU frat leader. So an ASU frat leader was in a picture with them in the frame of the picture. He looked better.

5:37Amy Wilson:I'm sorry. No, Amy, you're off. frame mogging is looking better than someone by size so you're frame mogging you're bigger so looks max sir clavicular got frame mogged by asu frat leader means he appeared in a picture with the leader of a frat at asu who was bigger than him he got frame mogged a guy whose job it is to look good didn't look as good in a picture as another guy. Correct. Okay, so that's the first one. What was the second one? Looks max or clavicular gets mugged. We've already established all of those words. Just regular mugged, yeah. By Chad Judge. I don't know who Chad Judge is, but he looked better than clavicular at some point.

6:22Amy Wilson:The word judge in this sentence is classic meaning. A judge. A Chad Judge? A Chad Judge. So the judge was good looking. You've got it. Okay. So Clavicular has committed some different infractions and ended up arrested. And much to the dismay or delight of the Internet, looks maxer Clavicular got mobbed by a Chad judge. So the judge was better looking than Clavicular. And Clavicular. God, he can't win. But Chad, five years ago, Chad was like, you know, a beefy, roided dude who thought he was all that, but he wasn't really. Is Chad now just straightforwardly a good-looking person? Good-looking person, correct.

7:04Okay.

7:05Amy Wilson:Which is quite different than Chud. A Chud is so ugly. A Chud is the worst, but a Chad is the best. Chud, it is my understanding that, Chud, you're ugly on the outside and the inside. This is the understanding that my kids gave me, that you're super ugly and not good. You're not a nice person and you're not cute, and your behavior can be Chuddy. You could not be a Chud, but your behavior can be Chuddy. Wow. I've never heard shuddy used. Yeah, shuddy behavior. This was one of those things where one of my kids was like, shuddy behavior is like you're a loser. And another one of my kids was like, you'd never say shuddy.

7:40But, you know.

7:40Amy Wilson:I agree. I've never heard shuddy. I do know that when we recently had a family birthday, we did cards. And I, of course, was like, can you just write something nice to people? Because my kids, and they are kind of joking, but we went around the table and we were like, say three words about the person to your left, you know, and it was a multi-generational table. So the grandparents were like, Amy is sweet, loving, and kind. And then grandpa was like, Margaret is giving, sweet, and special. And we were going around. And then my older son had his brother to his right. And he just went, dumb, stupid, not smart.

8:21It's like, okay, I don't think

8:23Amy Wilson:that's really the point of the game. But they are birthday cards to each other, say like kid's name, kid's name, love mom, love mom. But then the ones that they write to each other all say chud on the envelope, simply the word chud. Wow. You've been owned on your own birthday. It's like you're a chud. It's kind of harmless, like dork. Hey, dork. It's not like an indictment from the way my kids use it. My understanding is it is sort of an indictment. And if you want to say somebody is not good looking, but not a bad person is not good looking, that they are chopped. If somebody's chopped, it's not their fault.

8:59They're totally nice. You know, don't you like this person? He's chopped. It just means like, I wish I could help you, but I'm just not. It's not bad. It's just like nothing there, but not a chud.

9:12Amy Wilson:You're chopped. You're chopped. You're just chopped. I believe chud, like many slang terms, when used within the community with other members of the the community can be a term of endearment. But when used by outsiders from the community to describe people outside of the community is an indictment. To your face, it's not as insulting as when you're talking about somebody who's not even there, maybe. Right. Like if I said, oh, Amy, you're such a chud, you couldn't get your microphone working this morning. It's a term of endearment, kind of like you dork. Yeah. But if we're sitting there and we watch a third person walk by and I'm like, shut alert.

9:52Amy Wilson:That's me. You know what I mean? But at least you're not saying that they're chuzz. Has this made it to Westchester yet? I don't know chuzz. So there's chud, there's chopped, there's chuzz. I'm going to define it and this won't help you either. Chuzz is, what do they call it? It's a portmanteau. We're bringing two words together. Chuzz is chopped huzz. It's a chopped huzz. Huzz, I've definitely heard. So huzz, my child will say, like that character from Stranger Things is Huzz. That means like she has a crush on him. Yes. And then also the opposite of that. These kids, right? We're trying, guys.

10:28We're really trying to deliver you useful information. Huzz can be good or bad. This is what my daughter told me about Huzz because this is who I got Chuzz from. Chuzz is chopped Huzz. I'm like, what? And then she just, you know, couldn't believe I was so dumb. Your Huzz, it's almost like your harem, but in your head. Like all the people of the opposite or same sex that you like a little or they like you a little. and maybe you're snapping with them or maybe you talk. That's your huzz. That's your roster. Like your crush, kind of, right? Yeah. And you can have several of these going at once.

10:57Amy Wilson:But why would you have a chuzz? Because do I say your huzz is chuzz? No, but maybe he likes you and you don't like him back. It's because he's your chuzz. Like, you know, you're snapping, but you're not feeling it because he's chuzz. Now, this got me really laughing. So we know son and bra. Bro, right? Like, OK, son. OK, bro. but my daughter emphasized that son and bro are both out unless you use them in a new way. So you're allowed, like, you wouldn't be like, hey, bro, but you would be like, hey, bro, Tato. Or like, hey, bro, de Jenner. You can only use it if you like make a little pun out of it.

11:40Yeah, bro, Tato is acceptable.

11:42Amy Wilson:For people of any gender, I'm assuming this goes, can I call you bro, Tato? Oh, yeah. Bro is gender nonspecific and can also be used to, as I've long since known, reference your own parents. So I will be like, can you do this for me? And the response will be, no problem, bro-tato. Bro-tato. Back in like our parents' day, it was daddy-o. Everybody was daddy-o, right, of all ages. Hey, daddy-o. Now it's bro-tato. Daddy-o does not get said anymore. Sadly, because you starred in a sitcom called Daddy-o. I did. It's unfortunately very dated because nobody says Daddy-o anymore. I think they weren't already saying it then.

12:23Amy Wilson:It didn't help us. The title didn't really work. Son. Here are some of the variables. Okay. Rotation, like rotation. Something else. The kid is not my son.

12:37Amy Wilson:anything that doesn't just involve son you have to like put a spin on it you have to make it your own so if you say the kid is not my son you're doing billy jean but is that just like i don't know that guy or is that no thanks what does it mean probably means whatever you want it to mean it literally means whatever you want it to mean but you it is your job to find a new take on it So like if someone's doing something cool, you'd be like, okay, Sun King. You're finding the negative or positive by making a pun with the word sun or bro in it. Okay. Or you're just using bro, but you're saying bro-tato instead of bro.

13:15Amy Wilson:This is so good. I mean, none of this, by the way, now that we are learning all of this, it'll be immediately. The fact that we know these words means they're out. Like it moves so fast. And I have something to say about that. and we are going to be right back. Oh, this summer, I'm trying to get better about wearing sunscreen as I go about my daily life, not just when I'm sitting poolside. And I am loving Osea's Marine Screen, their brand new mineral sunscreen made for comfortable everyday wear. Osea's Marine Screen is a daily SPF 50 sunscreen powered by non-nano zinc oxide to help shield from UVA and UVB rays.

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17:30Amy Wilson:It's like slay would be very much in this category, right? Like, okay, slay or you slayed. It got slayed. Then it moves to the gay community. That's the next stop on the slang journey. And then it moves to the young people and then it moves to the old people. And then the old people start saying it ironically and it's dead. Then we ruin it. Right. Like when the principal is saying skibbity to make you cringe, strange, Skibbity is dead. And it's all through like hip hop music and rap music, I think how this gets, you know, Joshua on his way to his bassoon lesson learns about Potato. He's hearing that in a song, I guess.

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18:09Like, where are they getting this stuff? Yes.

18:11Amy Wilson:And there's now a whole genre, which I've recently been introduced to, which is like almost parody rap songs. Are you familiar with the phrase, rest in peace, my granny, she got hit by a bazooka? No. So this is something that my children like to say to each other. And it's from a rap song that I have heard. I believe that it is mostly done comically. Like, I don't think these things are... Like, I don't think the guy who wrote the My Granny Got Killed by a Bazooka song was trying to make a real rap song. Does it mean anything? They just like saying it. It's like a sad song about a guy whose granny got killed by a bazooka.

18:51Amy Wilson:Okay. But my sense from the outside is it's kind of a current grandma got run over by a reindeer. That's what I was thinking. Like, kids, we've done this already. We didn't go around saying the lyrics of that song to each other. My kids basically at the table, I have banned TikTok language at my table because my kids can literally go back and forth and say phrases to each other for an hour straight. And I don't understand any of it. And they're like, granny got hip hop bazooka. And they're like, yeah. Are you familiar with tongue, tongue, tongue, sahor? What? A whore? Tongue, tongue, tongue, sahor.

19:29Amy Wilson:Okay, what does it mean? I mean, again, I don't know. It's what they call a brain rot phrase. Do you know? I mean, you know brain rot phrases. I guess these are brain rot. They don't mean anything? I think skibbity was the original, like skibbity toilet was the original source of like brain rot phrases. Like what does skibbity toilet mean? I don't know. What does it mean? It was like an online thing with like a guy's head in a toilet, I think. I don't really know. And again, if my kids were listening to this, they would be screaming because I'm so dumb. But it's just a nonsense word. tongue tongue tongue sahor is like some song that was playing in the back of tiktok videos i think i don't know what it means i was sort of like is it racist are we like making fun of someone's culture they were like oh no no no it's italian i was like it doesn't sound italian but whatever it's a song there's another song does this sound familiar to you everything that i do praise the Lord.

20:36Amy Wilson:Does that mean anything to you? No, I don't. I don't listen to. This is like another like it's like a tick tock sound. It's like if you were watching a tick tock, right? And there's a guy on a bicycle and there's a different song playing in the background. And then like he drives off a cliff. Then you would hear like everything I do, praise the Lord. Like he went to heaven. Like it's over for him. OK. Again, I know I'm not getting this right. Do you know that back in the day, I was the parenting expert on Steve Harvey's show. And they would often have me on. And the producers would basically write a script for me.

21:11Amy Wilson:Like, it looks like I'm just having a conversation with Steve Harvey. But really, I was following the script. And sometimes, I think maybe two or three times, I went on. And my job was to decode teen slang for parents. And even I knew, because the producers gave me the script. I was like, if your child is mentioning cheese, that means they're trying to buy heroin. And I was like, that's not true. Like, I know that that's not a thing. And the comments under the video would be like, this stupid lady doesn't know anything. So like the inherent dangers of like trying to decode teen slang. And I used to just get absolutely murdered in the YouTube comments.

21:53Amy Wilson:And I'm like, guys, I totally agree with you. Like I'm going on TV and being like, I'm actually saying out loud that kids are walking around saying slap me some cheese. And like that's literally never happened in the United States or any other country. They just maybe wanted cheese. But every comment was like, literally no one says that you're an idiot. I do have a few for you. OK. That may be new. And my kids are scattered all over the eastern seaboard of the United States at that point. Only one lives at home. So so they were like I said, they were fighting with each other. I might have something you haven't heard before.

22:24I have a few that are like kind of like, oh, that's a useful word. Yes. What does it mean for something to be nerfed?

22:30Amy Wilson:Nerfed. Something got nerfed. I think I would say like 86, like out of the rotation. As they say the spelling bee, can you give it to me in a sentence? Yes. My aura was nerfed when I fell down the stairs in front of everyone. So like your aura is your cool points and it got nerfed, like wiped out when I fell down the stairs. Yes. Yes. According to my child, it means changed to be less effective. It was degraded or made less effective when it was nerfed. That one I have not gotten rid of, but degraded. Yeah, it was nerfed. How about ODing? I mean, I think I was like, I know what this means, but I didn't know what the current.

23:09Not overdosing, but he's like, I ODed on Oreos. No, it means trying too hard as in he got me flowers for our two week anniversary. So OD. OD, what does it stand for? Like overdone? It means overdosed, overdosing, but you're using it and like, now you're trying too hard. You were ODing when you fell down the stairs in front of everyone to try to get a bit of a laugh. That was OD.

23:36Amy Wilson:That was OD. Okay. Didn't have that one on my list. How about LARPing? Okay. LARPing, I also have on mine. So LARPing back in our day was live action role play. So LARPing is a hobby in which you like dress up as like knights and wenches and go out to a field and pretend you live in the Renaissance. Like Renaissance or like the comic book convention. Is that LARPing? That's cosplay. It's cosplay. But I think there's something like LARPing is more like Civil War recreations. You're live action role playing. So you're putting on a character and going into life and playing that character while other people do the same is a LARP.

24:21Amy Wilson:What does it mean now? It's something a little bit different. It's just pretending to be somebody that you're not. It's poser, right? It's a poser. You're a poser. I mean, I think poser works perfectly well. But yeah, you're LARPing when you're, I don't know what, when you're hanging out with Clavicular, the looks maxer. You're LARPing because you're really chuzz. I think also like if you're like dye your hair black you're LARPing as an emo like I know you're not really emo Amy but you're LARPing as an emo because emos are cool right now yeah I saw a documentary recently doesn't even matter what it was about but all the kids in it there were college students and they all had hair that had been bleached and dyed a color but it was like half growing out you know what I mean like it was like as dark as mine till about their eyebrows and then the rest of it was colored.

25:08They all tried this thing at the same time they were LARPing as emo or I don't know what, but like they all decided it was a good idea at the same time and a bad idea at the same time. A whole group of regretting growing out their hair.

25:19Amy Wilson:Or they were on the football team. Our football team diced their hair. They bleached their hair. And then it becomes like a fashion. Do you know that Balazs, do you know what that phrase means? Yes. People got their highlights done and then they were growing them out like models and then that became the look. to have highlights that were only the bottom half of your hair. But it's from... From Regrettable. Yeah. Now, here's one for you. Do you know what headcanon is? No. Do you want to guess what headcanon is? Can you give it to me? If you give it to me in a sentence, I could probably guess both.

25:54Why don't you give it to me in a sentence?

25:55Amy Wilson:Well, guess before I give it to you in a sentence, and then I'll try to give you an example. Although, God, that's going to be challenging. Is it just like a nutcase? No, but that's a good guess. The fact that this character was secretly in love with another character on Stranger Things is headcanon. I got nothing. You're not getting any closer. Let me give you another piece of it. It's connected to the word canon. Oh, it's one N. It's one N. Canon. Yeah. Okay. C-A-N-O-N. Okay. So what does canon mean to you? Canon mean it's canon that like Yoda didn't meet Luke Skywalker into the third movie of Star Wars or what I'm sure that's incorrect.

26:37Don't come at me for that one. But everybody knows and it's been established in this artistic thing that these things are true, that hobbits aren't friends with fairies.

26:46Amy Wilson:Right. And so you can't change, especially now that we're all into these long serialized stories. It's canon that some lady on Days of Our Lives is an alcoholic, so you can't give her a drink 20 years later because it's canon that she's an alcoholic. It's part of the story. I'll give you a definition. Canon represents the official verified events, facts, and lore created by the original author or rights holders. That's canon. Head canon exists only in the mind of the fan. It usually fills in gaps left by the original material, such as a character's morning routine, inner motivations, or what they did before the story began.

27:30Amy Wilson:Like fanfic. But it's more like it's something obvious about I'm trying to think like I'm not into any of these stories, but it's headcanon that so and so from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has Chardonnay for breakfast. Like you've never seen her do it, but based on all of her behavior, you just know it's true. You just know it's true. Right. So it's like, I understand this character so well that I'm like, it's headcanon that X character would drive a Porsche, even though you've never seen their car. It's like, I understand the character deeply. And I then have headcanon about them, which is a little different than fanfic, which is like, I wish that Harry Potter and Hermione had gotten together.

28:19Amy Wilson:So I'm going to write a book where they are in love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It takes you 10 ,000 words to get there. And this is just like, clearly, it's also true that she yells at the guy in the lobby. Well, it's like when you say on the podcast, this will surprise nobody. But it's headcanon about Amy that she has a spreadsheet of all of her kids' summer activities. Right, right, right. We've never heard you discuss that. We don't know that that's true, but it's headcanon. Like, we understand that that's something you're up to. Exactly. Yeah. All right. I got one more for you before we take a break.

28:53Clip farming.

28:54Amy Wilson:Clip farming is, how would I explain clip farming? It's something about taking short pieces of stuff from the internet and repurposing them. Well, the clips, you're right. The clips are like they were clips from the internet. But when you're clip farming, you're trying really hard to be super funny and it's not going well. Like you're trying to be the class clown so that you would like go viral in a, you know, theoretical internet clip that's being made of your behavior right now. Only it's so lame because it's not going well. So you're clip farming. Is someone filming you while you're clip farming?

29:28No, no, no, no, no. You're just being a goof. Maybe somebody cute is walking by and you're like, oh, I'm like, stop clip farming. Like stop acting. You're trying to get laughs and it's not going well. You're clip farming. You're falling on your face.

29:38Amy Wilson:Oh, I feel I'm a clip farmer and this hits a little too close to home. I need a break, Amy. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. Amy, my part-time job lately has been refereeing the fights between my kids who fight like cats about our cats, whose turn it is to scoop the litter box. But we have found a miracle solution. It's the Whisker Litter Robot. There's nothing to fight about because it does the scooping for you. The Whisker Litter Robot automatically cycles after every use and it notifies you when the unit needs attention so you're not handling waste or scooping daily. Plus, the Whisker app gives you real-time notifications that help track your cat's behavior and routines.

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31:41Amy Wilson:And now, what you are doing wrong. From the What Fresh Hell podcast. According to your two to four-year-old. You couldn't make it sunny when it was raining at the park. Seriously, what is wrong with you? According to your five to seven-year-old. You said no to more ice cream because apparently everybody had already had ice cream today. You are a monster. According to your eight to nine-year-old, you sang along with the radio in the car as your car approached the front of the school drop-off line. Oh my God, that is humiliating. According to your 10 to 11-year-old. Yes, you tried to help with their math homework, but that's not the way the teacher showed them to do it.

32:32No offense, but what is wrong with you? According to your 12 to 15-year-old. I mean, just the simple fact of your existence is simultaneously shameful, irritating, and appalling. I mean, this can't be fixed, but if you could try to stop being so, you know, you? According to your 16 to 18-year-old. Are you serious right now? I mean, your latest statement, much like all of your previous statements, is simultaneously ill-informed, outdated and deeply offensive. Check yourself, mom. This has been What You Are Doing Wrong from the What Fresh Hell podcast.

33:17this is down the street from clip farming aura farming we talked before about aura your aura is being cool or at least getting other people to think you're cool or thinking that you are cool even though other people that's your aura if you're aura farming this is the example i got if you're a guy and you're wearing a button down but you've rolled up the sleeves a little too much and a little bit of your chest hair is showing, you're RF farming. You're RF farming. Yeah, that makes sense. Like you're trying to be cool. You're trying to be cool and you're just embarrassing yourself. Or the other example was you have a cross necklace on, but it's a stupid one.

33:50That would be RF farming. Wow. This is rough. It's rough out there. It's rough out there. It is rough out there. I mean, kids today have 100 ,000 ways to tell you you're not all that. So yeah, it's rough out there. We're much nicer as adults. Do you know about two apples tall? No. Do you know what it means? You're not very tall if you're two apples tall.

34:14Amy Wilson:It's a term of endearment for adorable things. Like a kitten, oh, they're two apples tall. It's just like a term of endearment for small things. Okay, that's nice. Somebody isn't devastated if you say that. No, like if I show a picture to my child of them when they were little, they'll be like, oh, I was two apples tall. Okay. That's sweet. It just means adorably small. How about Loke? No, I got nothing. L-O-W-K, Loke. It's short for low-key, but you don't say low-key. You say Loke. He's Loke kind of cute. Like between us, entre-new. Loke. I like that one. I might incorporate that. I have other children like you can totally say low-key.

34:58And then I have other kids who are like, no, no, no, you don't say low-key anymore. You say Loke. I heard a kid say to my one of my kids, they're in a like a spike ball tournament, a very friendly one. And this kid was like, we are low closing right now because they were getting beaten by the other team. I don't know what was low key about it. But like between you and me, we're losing is what it means. We are low losing. And then there's low genuinely. OK, tell me more. The low genuinely means not really, but really like we're low genuinely. I low genuinely like him means I do kind of like him, but I'm embarrassed.

35:31so it's low-key and genuine i'm like how is that different from loke i low kenuinely many the portmanteau yeah low kenuinely and then that moved into low kirk kenuinely which i asked for a definition of that and my kid was like i think it's charlie kirk in there i'm like but what does it mean it's one of those like it doesn't mean anything it just means you're on the internet a lot that you've gone from loke to low kenuinely you're low kirk kenuinely maybe it means you're mocking somebody who's pretending to be low-kenually into something, but they're not actually the low-kerkenually interested in something.

36:06The self-referent. We're in like six sets of parentheses at this point, right? Around the sentence. This is where I exit.

36:12Amy Wilson:I had you at low. I was like, that's cool. Like, not in the mood to make dinner tonight. Yeah, I could see that. Low-kenually, you started to lose me. And then low-kerkenually, I was like, I'm out. Whatever this is, it's a bridge too far. Yeah. Yeah. One of the things I like about slang, and this is an old one, but when the kids use it, I'm going to give you a funny example. My niece got engaged when my kids were quite a bit younger and Riz for charisma was a huge fort. my niece got engaged and I came home and I said oh she got engaged and they knew her boyfriend for a long time who's became her fiance and one of my kids said I low-key didn't know he had rizz like that that was his reaction to like them getting engaged and I was telling them about it it just became so funny that we just would only refer to him as like the rizzler and like rizz money like He was just Rizzy.

37:13Amy Wilson:We got him a t-shirt for Christmas that was like Rizzler King. It just became. And then they got married at a place up here called Bear Mountain. And he was only referred to all weekend by my family as the Rizzly Bear of Bear Mountain. And I do enjoy, much like Brotato, I do enjoy when the slang becomes punnily delicious. It gets taken to the extreme. Lo-Kir-Kenually means everything. Genuinely. Like I'm lost on that one, but I really did enjoy like he's the Rizzler. He's the Rizz King. He's the Rizzly Bear. I asked my sister who has kids who are a little bit younger than mine for this slang that her kids are talking about.

37:56And one thing sort of rose to the top that my kids backed up. Niche. Niche is very popular. I got niche. So niche, keep this niche. And here's where it came from because I had to look it up because it was one of these things like it had 14 meanings. The original meaning in gaming, like designers of gamers, would say that something that was niche in a game was situational and not useful. Like, I'm making this up, the cows in Minecraft, if you click F2, they moo. Okay, that would be niche. It's there, and there's no point to it. Would we have called that an Easter egg back in the day? I think it's the kind of thing we would have been called, we would have said random.

38:36I totally overuse the word random in college and afterwards to mean everything to mean good, not good. Right. Important, not important. Everything was random. It was random if it was unexpected. So niche. My brother-in-law is a math teacher and he heard his kids talking about which form of a derivative was the most niche. It's like, I don't know what that means. Keep this niche means keep this between us. okay but it also means that's so niche i guess it's like i don't know what to say that you call your um the new member of your family the risley bear that's so niche it's niche it's niche it's

39:12Amy Wilson:between us it's like an inside joke kind of i think kind of right or yeah it's niche it's just us it's just niche do you know about glaze glazing i know okay give it to me what do you think glaze means to like compliment somebody I think or like to like butter them up but I don't know what glaze glazing is glaze glazing is just different forms of the same term my daughter recently did a play and she was like oh they were totally glazing me up afterwards because people in the crowd were like you were great in the play and then she's like I was talking to her backstage and she's like excuse me I gotta go get that glaze like I gotta go out and hear from other people who are not my mom how great I was.

39:58That's a good one. I like glaze. I'm going to put glaze in my pocket. We don't really have a word for that. I'll probably just keep saying random instead of niche, but glaze. How about this one? I had not heard this one before. Put the fries in the bag.

40:09Amy Wilson:Yeah, that's an old one, I feel like. Put the fries in the bag. I've definitely heard it. What does it mean? It means get to the point. Put the fries in the bag. I feel like that's not that new. It's also funny because some of these ones come around and around, you know? Yeah. And it's also funny how like you can see the origins of it. Like back in our day, I feel like people said, don't make me take my earrings off. And I recently heard like a young girl singer, I don't remember who it was, say that in a song. And she is a great singer, but she's definitely not a girl who has ever taken her earrings off.

40:44Amy Wilson:Don't make me take my earrings off means we're about to fist fight. And I can't have my earrings in because during the fight, you're going to pull them through my ears. And I heard this like young girl say it in a song. And I was like, girl, I love you, but you have never, ever taken your earrings off. How about PMO? Nothing. This is a funny one because it means, you know, piss me off, which is three syllables. And so is PMO. And we were saying piss me off like 35 years ago. So I don't know why I need initials now. And so if something makes you angry, you can say that's PMOing so hard. And that means that's making me really angry.

41:19I'm angry. That's PMOing so hard, which my sister pointed out should be. That's P-ing M-O so hard. But instead, that's PMOing so hard means that it's really pissing me off.

41:31Amy Wilson:Yeah, they're saying pissing me offing so hard. So. Makes literally no sense. And I'm not sure why you need the initials. But yeah, I am so PMOed. You know, you can you can say it. It's a state of mind. It's an abbreviation for a state of mind that you can use in ways that don't really make sense if you break it down. The other one in that category, which has some curse words in it that I'll work around is SIBO. Like C-I-B-O? S-Y-B-A-U. Shut your B-A up. SIBO. I was like, that's useful. That's a useful one. SIBO. Have you seen the TikToks where people are like, it's people asking and they're like white people, I'm going home and black people.

42:14Amy Wilson:And then it's like a series of letters and they get people to guess them. And they're very funny. It's like, I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of this dumb effort, you know, whatever. It's funny. How about Hain? H-A-I-N? H-E-I-N? Nope. What is it? It's heinous. We would say, I mean, back in the day, we would say Hain like somebody was heinous if they were chuzz or chopped or chud, we would say they were heinous. But you just say Hain And it just means that's crazy. That's so Hain. Well, I was trying to get this distinction going with my kids because bus is a confusing one. Bus, bussing, busted, bust, and buns all have very different meanings.

42:58Amy Wilson:Like bussin is good, busted is bad, and buns is bad. Buns. We had a friend over and the kids were just saying ridiculous things to each other. and he was this very like proper British guy. And he was like, would you explain to me what you are saying? And they were like, we're just saying it's buns. And he's like, now what is it to be buns? And they were like, buns is like, you don't want to be buns. Like this food is buns, it's bad. And he was like, ooh, I'm glad you told me because I would not want to be buns at any time during our dinner. And it was just killing me. There's something very funny about, I was once on a road trip with a very kind of square professorial friend of mine.

43:40Amy Wilson:I was in college, but he was on his way to becoming like a snooty professor type. And we were listening to Bills, Bills, Bills by Destiny's Child. And he was like, so is it that she wasn't saying to pay these bills, the automobiles and the many bills? Yeah. It's just there's something funny about the anthropologist from outer space who's like trying to who's landing what the song Bills, Bills, Bills is about. My last one I want to give you is Chalant. Now that one I know, Chalant. Chalant, it is sort of the opposite of nonchalant, which Merriam-Webster points out that nonchalant is an orphaned negative, which is a word that feels like it should have the opposite, but it doesn't.

44:23According to Merriam-Webster, there is the word nonchalant. There is no such word as chalant, but literally everybody under 23 will disagree with you because they say chalant every day.

44:32Amy Wilson:So nonchalant is like laid back, not a care to give. And chalant is like anxious and worried. You care too much. Although I've heard sometimes it's good. Like you can be like, I am chalant about getting this part in the play, I guess. So they're dedicated. Yeah, you could be dedicated. You could care too much. Sometimes it's good. Yeah, chalant. That's funny because I have a nephew and all my nephews and nieces have different nicknames. but my nephew John who is very laid back his nickname is John Chalant because he's just nonchalant and he's John Chalant you guys have really the most important thing I've learned today is that your family's nicknaming capabilities we are very nicknaming are on point do you have a nickname no Ames I am low genuinely nervous about going to your house and finding out what my nickname is going to be because I know I don't really I mean Ames amela amela amela they're never like i had a employer called me amela yeah we would never call you buns it would be something nice we would never give you a buns nickname like chud i hope i wouldn't pmo you all so that so that we would give you a buns chud nickname right this has really uh helped me not be relevant or cool to my kids at all because i'm shallant i care too much about god whatever you do do not start saying these things it's truly like what's funny is i was looking them up on chat gpt and google and stuff and they were all like touch grass roman empire and i was like i know those things are from at least a year gpt that's right we're safe from ai ai hasn't got nothing for this it's the point of slang is that it moves so fast by the time we know it like by the time we have said these things out loud on a podcast They're buns, frankly.

46:17Amy Wilson:It's already too late. It's ephemeral. Right. By the time somebody typed it on a website for ChatGPT to crawl, that's like, hello, six months ago. And then that's too late. I also, we're totally wrapping, but I have repeatedly pointed out to my children that Chud in my day stood for what? Amy, do you know this reference? There was a movie called Chud. Yeah, like underwater cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers. It was a horror movie that we loved called Chud. And whenever they're like, you're a chud, I'm like, a cannibalistic human would underground cellar? They're like, we have no idea what you're talking about.

46:50It's kind of the same. It's kind of like, yeah, that is kind of what I mean. It's come back around. It's actually kind of what we mean. This was a fun one. We tend to do episodes like this often in our bonus episodes, which we give only to subscribers to What Fresh Health Plus. When you subscribe to What Fresh Health Plus, you get every episode ever, ever, ever in our whole catalog, some of which aren't even on Apple Podcasts anymore because, long story, we can't have all of them on there. because Apple Podcasts is buns. They want lettuce, they're buns. But we have them up on What Fresh Hell Plus and they're all ad-free.

47:20So you can listen to the entire archive ad-free and monthly bonus episodes that are usually about completely silly and unuseful topics like this one. I'm going to say this was useful. I learned so much today. I learned so much from you as I always do.

47:33Amy Wilson:This was growing and learning. But you can sign up for that in the link in the show notes or always go to whatfreshhellpodcast.com and sign up there. And with that, thanks so much for listening and giving us aura and not being buns. We were aura farming. Yeah. And we will talk to you next time. So long, everybody.

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