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29:45Terrible. Had to have been. I was a teenager. I was 13 years old during that time. That was what everyone nationwide did. I know. and it was so scary. We did the don't try this at home messaging and all that stuff. Yeah, I mean, kids are getting hurt. A lot of blowback on WWE as a whole? I think there were attempts at it, you know, but it was important for us to do the don't try this at home messaging at that time because, you know, people don't understand that while it's entertainment, it is very dangerous and And if you're not properly trained and you don't know how to do the moves accurately, you can really get hurt, especially in the backyards where there's, God only knows what anybody's using for anything.

30:33Mattresses. Mattresses. Trampolines. Which is ironic that your doctor said no contact sports. Or trampolines. Or trampolines. That's one of those things where I often think about like, before coming here I did like a top six hardest hits in my WWE career man knock on something I've never gotten injured in ring I took that one hit a few years ago but that was in all my WWE career I never got that's great never spine stuff ever awesome great yeah but like that's another thing I just feel very very lucky and we talked about fit and the connection he had with him and I had. It was so instantly father-son like three weeks in.

31:23I was like, man, this is a very dad-son. For those of you who don't know. I almost got fired this day. This is my first day. That's a great setup. This is my first day and I almost got fired that day, I guarantee, because what the boss said was, green light, Finley will lift the apron, you'll come out. I got it. We're rehearsing at the time. Green light comes on. I come out. Damn it. Wait. Okay. Wait. Wait for that apron. Great. Awesome. Take two. Finley comes out, lifts the apron, no light. I wait. God. Damn. Where are you? I said, there was no light. He goes. This is a test. And it was literally like, oh, okay.

32:24I was like, in my head, I'm going, I'm done. I'm done. First day in, last day in. This is it. Third time rehearsal. Light. Lift. In. Perfect. God dang. But it was just one of those things where I was like, this is going to be the quick. They said it was going to be six months and it's going to be six minutes. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. But from that point on, man, like it was just a connection that him and I had of father, son. It's that feeling. And I think that's why I never got the hazing that you hear about and that kind of thing. Because they knew that they didn't want to deal with Finley and getting tied in a knot.

33:06Yeah. So it's just one of those things where I'm very, very lucky and grateful about that too. Let's do a new segment that we call Burnout Check-In. Presented by our brand new partner, Game Day Men's Health. We will be talking about your story, your achievements, and everything you juggle in life, including parenthood. But how do you manage your energy? What's your reset strategy if you ever feel like you're running on empty? I don't drink coffee I hate coffee absolutely despise coffee hate the taste hate everything about it I don't like naps I hate naps I just like I don't know these are the things you don't like how do you stay awake I'm trying to think of things I do I just push through I think I just like go like oh I need to accomplish this stuff I'm a list maker oh because it makes me feel accomplished oh I love this yeah it makes me feel accomplished like hey when Landon's at school I'm not just like wasting the day away.

34:05Crossing something off makes me feel so good. I like a good check the box. Dishes. Or run the robot vacuum. Do you find that robot vacuum works very well? Love it. No. Really? I had a robot vacuum. You do the stick vacuum. You do the robot vacuum. Love it. Oh, you do both. Yeah, because the stick vacuum, it works for me. The big vacuum. Right? Tricky. Yes. But the stick vacuum is great. They make many, many different styles now. Sure. It's 2026. I get it. Yeah, I mean, there's just many different handle sizes. A dirt devil would be perfect. That would be my style. Those are also great. I have that as well.

34:51It would take a long time for the whole house. It is also very time consuming. Great to get into nooks and crannies. Yeah, I'm close to the ground. It doesn't hurt my back as much. Yeah. But the robot's the best. Do you have pets? Do I have pets? I have a son. Besides, the only reason... Do you have the furry kind? He wants a dog so much. So I was going to say robot vacuum with a dog. Yeah. They don't like it. They don't like it. Yeah. It's the enemy. Yeah. We stopped using it because of dogs. Yeah, but I've also heard the horrible thing where if the dog goes on the carpet and the robot vacuum goes over it, it drags.

35:27Oh. Excrement. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, it's awesomely horrible. I could definitely see that. Though maybe artistic. I love that. I'm just saying. But how I recharge my health is just pushing through. This became a vacuum from our friends. Very good, very good. And so given you just push through, the question is how? How do you keep your mental and physical stamina where it needs to be? Like, is it just a mental game for you? You just push through? Do you listen to music? No, I just have to. Do you put the windows down and let the breeze flow through your hair? No. Jesus, I will push the rest of it off.

36:10You have facial hair. There we go. Facial hair. I don't know. I think it's more of a, I know what I got to get done. Yeah. You're just determined to get through your list. Sure. And you can't sleep until it's done. Yeah, and then I push it off to the next day. And then I go, God dang it, what are you doing? So you can sleep. Oh, yeah. How many hours do you get a night, roughly? Do you prioritize sleep? No. No. I scroll. I do scroll. I YouTube scroll. Oh. I love my algorithm. You do? Love it. Which consists mainly of? Body cam videos. Really? Love it. Like cop body cam videos? Yeah. Or video cameras of any kind?

36:54No, cop body cams. Cop body cam. Finding squatters. Really? Wow. I love those. Is there like, what's the channel? A body cam watch, Co-Blue Cam. Co-Blue Cam is actually out of Wisconsin. Oh, yes. So it's awesome. So I know exactly where they are on like highways and stuff. It's great. But like, I really like those. And I don't know why, because I've never been one, shockingly, to run from the cops. Wouldn't make it very far. But I don't, so I don't know. I just find it very interesting. I love shoplifters. Excuse me.

37:33This is the most real one yet. I love shoplifters getting caught. That's just like, I don't know. What's your favorite reaction that you've seen recently? I didn't do nothing, which in reality means you did do something. And then how they go, I don't know how it got there. I don't know how these cords got in my pockets. I don't know how this memory card and memory bank got in my pockets. Well, you took it. Obviously. We'll see. We have this footage of you actually putting it in your pocket. Literally putting it in your pocket and then walking past point of sale multiple times now. There's hundreds at home watching it on replay, right?

38:17I love it. Live. Oh, are there any live body cam? There are, but I can't get into those. Oh. Because why? It's like a... They take too long to get into. I just want to get into the heart of the matter. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. I don't want to talk to the employees. I was going to make a horrible analogy. I don't know if I should. I kind of feel like I won't. I wanted it. I wanted it. Get right to it. That's what you're saying. That's what I should have said. Yeah. There she is.

38:48That bar crawl is going to start real good. That bar crawl is going to be the best bar crawl at all of Stanford. Let's do the clothes on this.

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39:48They were talking a little bit before the episode. Anything you need. Thank you. anything I mean like so she does have some questions yeah yeah just as a parent of a little amazing girl yeah who is a little person she's adorable that is why we are wearing her sweet little handprint love that I have landed's on my back oh do you yes but his are very big even though he was a baby they're still they're like my size now it's so it's our our favorite part because when she came out we didn't know what type of skeletal dysplasia she was going to had we assumed it would be we prayed it would be a chondroplasia yes um and it was yes we saw her hands and we were like thank you god yeah that's a so it's a symbol like the trident hand starfish hand love that my husband wants to get that tattoo but he needs we have a son too and my poor son has one tattoo he's already got a butterfly for her i'm like all right daddy's girl over there getting all the tattoos.

40:47Yeah. But so, yeah, just, you know, being new to this and I shared with Steph, we're hitting her second birthday and for the first time, you know, she's not a baby anymore, but she kind of looks like she's a baby. What scares you?

41:05That was good. I liked that. I liked that. It's a great question.

41:13Sorry. How I can't change the world for her. Yeah, yeah. And how people will treat her. Oh. You know? Yeah. And that's...

41:30Tell her and you as her mom, waking up tomorrow, there's nothing you or her can do, right? Nothing. Got to live with this. And we're going to live with it and make it awesome. Embrace the shit out of it. Yeah. if there is bullying, when I was lucky enough to be a part of the Be A Star campaigns and still doing assemblies here and there, what I tell these kids from kindergarten level to high school level is I was the first one to bully myself. I never took myself seriously. When you beat the bully, and I've talked to Steph about this, when you beat the bully to the punch, they don't have that ammo.

42:15You're taking the ammo out of the weapon they have. Don't take it. But when she's young, it's the hardest. As she gets older, that becomes easier. But my parents, I am so thankful. My parents never catered to me. They were there for me. They were supportive of me. But it's almost like my dad didn't want to make it the Dylan Postle show. my first mom did that's a I don't have any relationship with her anymore my stepmom is my mom now she legally adopted me six years ago and she raised me that her and my dad didn't change the world around me to cater to me to cater to what I maybe needed and that's good I feel like that's good because now when I went out in the real world I didn't want handouts because of my stature

43:19make it fun make it fun for her but don't it's my thing the hardest thing I can think of now is thinking like how did they not make it like woe is me for me that's tough I can't imagine we got, when Landon's mom was pregnant with him, we got her tested to see if he was going to be a dwarf. It was a fear of mine. Because I didn't go through the bullying, but it can happen. And the medical stuff, and just everything involved. Financially. Being honest, financially. Different. Doctors getting every bit of clothing tailored. It sucks. and it's it's that but we found out he was going to be normal size average size I say normal I don't care guys that's my life but it's one of those things where it was it was a sigh of relief but also like a even if he would have been a dwarf I would have been all right let's do this right

44:31yeah you can't change anything right like that's my mindset you can't change tomorrow I can't change this and I'm okay with that how did you or your parents not feel the need to fight every single person that made a comment because that's where I feel like I'm headed not that I'm a violent person love it but it makes me happy no I just get on the bar crawl and yeah I mean

44:57now we're getting into it if you come for her this lady can slap um but i just like we're getting to the age now where like an innocent comment yeah yeah yeah from from my son's friend is like oh i still get it to this your sister's head's big and my son didn't really yeah hear it but i did and the mom and i talked and it she was so apologetic but like how do you handle those moments because I might want to fight a child. 100%. I get all the time. Mommy, what is that? What does that baby have a beard? Sorry. What was it expected? To this day, I get it. I always laugh about it now because it's like two reactions.

45:39What is that? From these children or just a what's going on there kind of thing. It's a shock or what is that? It's going to happen. Right? It's going to happen. And are you like, hey, I'm Dylan? I'm just literally very much so. God made me different. I literally live by God made me different. I'm not a religious person, but it's just the easiest way to go about it. And then when they get the questions, but why? It's just how I am. You have dark hair. I have a big ass skull. Like that was me growing up. and it's one of those things where it is I don't know how my parents dealt with it because it had to have been tough to not just want to go being a jerk but I never once saw my dad go get pissed off about it because I dealt with it very nonchalantly I didn't let it get to me and how old were you when you I realized I was this.

46:45Yeah. I don't know. Probably, to be honest, probably my first back surgery. Really? Yeah. Because, but that was, I mean, I was young. I was four. Um, echondroplasia she has, you said? Yep. That's great. That's awesome. Yeah. That's very, that's the. Why do you guys say that? It's the most common. There's, I feel there's the least health issues involved. There's the most care for it. It's the most known about. I think it's the least painful you see some of these cases just in pain I used to go to these little person the little people of America conventions and I haven't been and I really want to start going again they didn't like how I was portrayed on WWE I was going to ask what they didn't get and this was always an issue with me what they didn't understand is this kid is living his dream.

47:43All he's wanted to do his whole life. You just wanted to wrestle. I just wanted to wrestle. I wanted to be on WWE. They saw it as a leprechaun. I get it to an extent. But then... And you talked about this a little bit as it relates to Hollywood. Oh, here we go. Yeah, I mean... Because it's interesting. Fuck Peter Dinkley. I don't know who said it. He's whispering. That has to be the screenshot with which we promote the episode. Thank you. The next sweatshirt hand I'd like. Oh, yes. Dylan's finger. That'd be good. That'd be good. Yeah. I get it. I get what he was trying to do. But so can you explain for those who don't know?

48:33I want to get back to. Elise. Yeah. No, I was trying to. I was just helping. we talk we're gonna go on a bar crawl it's gonna be really fun I know well when we come out of that bar crawl that's when we should do the second fuck Peter Dicklin that's what we're doing on top of the title TMZ will love that

48:58but no it's so Disney was putting on a live action Snow White and Seven Dwarves with live dwarves as the dwarves because that makes sense. Peter Dinklage goes on his podcast and goes, what have I been on my soapbox for trying to get real roles for people of my community? This, that, and the other thing. Disney stops. Casts the dwarves as normal-sized actors. What are we doing? Right? What are we doing here? Now, my issue with this is elf that check cashed just fine dinklage there have been so many roles that have been made for a little person that he took that were just fine has he gotten roles that weren't yes and he's knocked him out of the park he is the biggest dwarf actor of all time i will say it my issue was he costed seven dwarves extras stunt doubles now you're probably looking at over 20 total roles that are made for people of our community so i spoke out about it and i said first off you don't know the damage you did by speaking out like that secondly what makes you the voice of our community when i can argue i'm sorry one time i do believe in myself when it comes to this is I was on television for just under 10 years living my dream in a dwarf, you know, a role that was for a dwarf.

50:36Why is my voice not being taken? Why are we taking his? Just his. These are roles that he costed, unfortunately. So then how important, how can you encourage more roles? Like how can you be that voice? I don't know if I can. That positive voice. I don't know if I can be, but I would like to be. I'm trying to read for more roles. I'm trying to read for not just dwarf roles, but regular roles. And I feel what Peter Dinklage still does in movies as non-dwarf roles is great. I'm not taking that away from him. What upset me about the whole thing was him speaking out. For the community. And, yeah, why are you the representation?

51:21Why is it not more voices? And I feel like it's like. Kudos to you that you're adding your voice. I'm trying to. Right? But I feel like it's that in any form. There shouldn't ever be one voice. Let's take many perspectives and see what the community as a whole might think. Instead of taking one. So you started to talk about the Little People Convention. Yep, Little People of America, yeah. Why is that important for the community? and how do you think you could maybe use that for a platform to talk about these? I really do feel like they were great for me. I wasn't, shockingly, Oshkosh that you now know so much about.

52:06Learning, learning. There wasn't... East and West High School, big rivalry. West and North. At least we're trying. At least we're trying. I was like, I think she said the wrong one. I'm just going to smile and nod. You almost got there. Because I went to the Wizard of Oz, truthfully, the Wicked Witch of the East and West. Oh, more little person things. That's how we're doing. It wasn't related. Oh, correlation. Elise, I got you here. I got you here. Talking about Oompa Loompas next. That's next on the notes. Also great roles, right? Awesome. But then they remade it and digitized and only used one of our community.

52:47Which is crazy. Which is fine. little people of American conventions were huge for me growing up especially as a teenager because we would go to these national conventions all around the country and I never was around little people there was like an older gentleman that I met when I was real really young that was it that was really it and how did you feel when you met him? odd really? yeah because I didn't grow up around other little people. My parents were average height. My friends were average height. We don't have this community where we're all living, you know? It's just, I don't know. It was just an odd, not a forced feeling of like, hey, meet this guy.

53:37He's just like you. I go, no, I'm just like me. I'm me.

53:43But going to those conventions, it was great. it was it was it was good for my parents too because there was meetings for them of like how do you deal with clothing and doctors and yeah that's how my parents met a couple other doctors I think they got in touch with my ear doctor through the conventions so we haven't been we had said um you know and we've been encouraged to go and I've met I have a kind of a whole group of moms online and and we talk back and forth um about hey what car seat are you using and one mom will say hey these shoes fit my son really well the kids are six months apart like i have that smaller community but we've all talked about going to like last summer it was in san diego as the national convention each summer there's a national there's like smaller chapter ones so we haven't been to anything so the regionals aren't yeah much uh i mean they're to go to they're they are what they are yeah the nationals are really because they it's a really neat thing She's still so young.

54:43I think she's too young to appreciate it. Well, yeah, it was more for us, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At this level. That's what we've heard, but I wondered too. But as she grows, grows. I can say it. I'm not saying anything. I almost reached over.

55:04I'm not. As she gets older. So uncomfortable. I love how we can make her uncomfortable finally October 14th save the date I feel like you don't get uncomfortable but we'll keep talking sorry I feel like as she gets older the interactions with other other people in the community and that kind of thing I mean there's dances and oh yeah yeah like there's the dwarf games, which I never did. So I was like, oh, this is now I actually have to like compete. These people are going to be really, really good. I'm not going to do it. I have an excuse for not being able to do five pull ups with the average students.

55:54Now these guys are doing it and killing it. I'm going, not a chance. I'm not going to be showing up by that. They're running and doing javelins, not with toothpicks, but with real javelins. Made her uncomfortable again. Let's go. No, no. Toothpake joke was funny. I just laughed. But it's that where as she gets older she'll really appreciate it. Yeah. Maybe it's time to go back. Maybe. We could coordinate. Oh yeah. You guys could actually go together. I would love that. Maybe that would make me go. As you know, I get uncomfortable talking about what I've done and talked about how Landon possibly views me and how I don't think he views me and that kind of thing because I don't view myself as the amazing human that you are I view myself as Dylan from Oshkosh that's all I want to be all I've wanted to be is Dylan from Oshkosh I talk about in the book all the time like when this is all done, when I'm all done with this, I'm okay going back to Target and being Dylan from Oshkosh.

57:15It's a very fine line, I feel, especially in this business, of viewing yourself on a pedestal. And that can be ego-driven. I don't ever want to be that. When I first got hired, I felt myself sipping into that. It's hard not to. Yeah, especially a 20-year-old, 21-year-old kid. Suddenly successful. In Oshkosh. Again, like, where nothing happens. It's hard. And then I felt myself slipping, and Buddy's going, hey, you're being an asshole. Okay. And then he, Landon, was born. It was a very quick, I talk about it all the time. He came out. It's weird to say he came out. He was birthed. He was born. He was born.

58:02and I go, and then he was born, and everything, like, paused, and I was like, all right, it's time to not be an asshole. It's time to just, everything is for him now. Yeah. I lived, like, everything for him, and I still try to live everything. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. There we go, this is the best. I had, this is the vet. I'm sorry. Take the vet call. No, it's okay. Okay. Yeah, I'll follow up. You're horses of dogs that, first off seeing videos and photos i don't do dogs oh you would look me oh no no no no no no no no what you're going to realize too she is going to look dogs in the eyes dogs are going to want to jump on her because they're going to think she's a child throughout life i get very weird about dogs because they always want to jump if they jump on me even at 13 years old they're knocking me over not like a normal 13 year old.

59:00My dogs knock everybody over. That's true. I could ride, I mean, I could ride your dogs like when they were puppies. They were so huge. Yeah, they're both 175 pounds now. It's insane to me. And the boy is still a puppy. Thinking about it, it makes me shake. He gets the zoomies. Oh! And it's like he tears the house down. He really does. I mean, it's crazy. He's like, he does the spins and then he does You must have just holes in your walls. I actually do have a hole in my wall, but that's from him eating a hole in the wall. Just casually snacking on the wall. Oh my God, this is even better. Yeah.

59:36Oh my gosh. He doesn't do that all the time, but he did it just the other day. But when he does, he takes down the whole wall. Yes. If he takes a bite of anything, it's going to take a chunk out of it. I can't do dogs, man. I can't. Dogs. I love them. If they don't, if they're not. What about little dogs? They're loud. Lots of little dogs. Bulldogs now. I love. They make noise, but they're not like yippee. I always say I'm the human version of a bulldog. I don't breathe well. I get these arms. I usually make a pug reference in my house. To your daughter? Not. Oh. Breathing. Oh. The breathing. Oh, so you're already calling your daughter a pug?

1:00:14I was like, you're the one. Puggy wuggy. No, no. How you hear the pugs. I'm just kidding. No, first of all, Liv is obsessed with dogs. She calls them buppies. Buppies. It's cute. And we have two decent-sized dogs. They're like 50 pounds. Yeah. Average compared to the Beast, but she's very into the puppies. I can't do it. Landon wants one so bad. I'm not home enough. Get a little one. It wouldn't be fair to that. Man, I can't. Why? It wouldn't be fair to the dog. I'd be kenneled. Because I'm not home enough. But is Landon home? I know. We do 50-50 with his mom and I. and so would his mom sure they would love it i don't want to i'm i don't want to dogs put anyone else like out of his responsibility little person conventions going back to that sorry i just thought of this i it weirds me out to think of going to one of those because i don't want to be put as like oh hero dwarf like you know what i mean i don't want to do that yeah except if you can be a voice for your community is that Is that something you would want to do?

1:01:26And if it's not, that's okay. I would love to. But it's hard for me to view myself that way. Having a little bit of fame and a little bit of notoriety, whether or not you want it, you have it. Yeah, I just think about like, obviously I have a daughter with dwarfism, but my friends who have boys, like being able to see someone else live out their dream as a wrestler is very inspiring for them. So you being at that convention for these little boys to see like, oh shit, I can be that person. It's hard to view myself as that. But you are. I don't know. I trust you guys. I trust everyone that tells me.

1:02:02But you are. And you wouldn't be, you know, you wouldn't have the opportunity to write a book and have people actually care about the book if they don't know who you are. You know, you have been given a gift and it's how you want to use it, you know. And maybe there's an opportunity to do more than. I would love to. You thought. And I, yeah, I would love to. I just, it's hard when you don't have that. I'm sure they have speaking engagements at these conventions. Like you should get booked. It's a lot. You should talk to the. To make the, I'm doing it. I'm going to reach out to them for next year.

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1:04:22Look. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. You guys move quick. This is the best thing ever. Easy, easy. Why is this so much? Have you, hey, let me ask you this too. Here's a, here's a. I need something sharp first. Yeah. When's the, when's the last time that you guys, that you've let loose? Hmm. that you found yourself being able to text Elise and go, hey, but just text her and be like, hey, I need a night. Does that still happen? Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Did you ever find a point in the crazy life that you have been a part of where you couldn't? So it's really interesting. There was a period of time where I lost myself a little bit.

1:05:16um corporate wise no i there yeah i mean that happened too and in a much bigger way later but there was a period of time where i realized like i hadn't danced and i love to dance and i'm not saying i'm a good dancer i just love to dance alone that quote alone is going to be the highlight of this whole thing to me. Remember how you said to me the whole time, you need to believe in yourself. You need to do this. You realizing I just need to dance. Yeah. Dance. Hey, Dylan, believe in yourself. Hey, I'm going to text you now. Here and there. Hey, we dancing or what? I'm going to add it to our shared list.

1:06:06Yes, absolutely. Yes, the shared note reminder list. So you lost your dance and then you found your dance? And I did, yeah. I found my wild streak again. What do you think this was? What's that what? What year do you think this was? Oh, like maybe six years ago. Okay. Yeah. No longer. Maybe 10 years ago. You know I'm a lot older than you. 10 years specifically older than you. Are you really? Yeah. Yeah. 49. Yeah. When's the birthday? September. September 24th. Everyone. That's right. September 24th. Well, I, uh, that makes me happy. Yeah. So, you know, the, the, and I've always like, to me, I do.

1:06:56I just, I love to dance as my favorite way to blow off steam. I love to dance with my kids. Um, I love to dance by myself in the kitchen. Like, that's not unusual. But when do you really have the chance to just dance alone in the kitchen anymore? You know, it's like literally music and, you know. When's the last time you've hidden at a dive bar? A dive bar I haven't been to in a while. Never. Not never, but just not in a while. Like went to a place where you knew that you blend in. I went out with a friend of mine where we frequent in New Hampshire, and we went to dive bars, and it was a Tuesday night, and nobody was out.

1:07:40Isn't that the best? Yeah. Perfect. But there were pool tables, and there were lots of shots of Jack Daniels involved, and it was not pretty. That's what I was thinking. A place where, for sure, you could go, and no one would give enough that you were there. That's what, yeah. I mean, we brought you to a very windy rooftop bar. That was fun. Where no one... Nobody ever really knows who I am anyway. It was so windy that she was like this the whole time. But I always have to be mindful. It was very windy. They couldn't see you. It was the windiest experience of my life. And then we sat at a table at the edge of the platform.

1:08:19It's a great move by me. And it was even windier. I'm going to get us outside, guys. it's a beautiful sunset in New York City it was beautiful you held your menu and if you let it go it blew onto your face to where you didn't look on no hands don't worry no one knows you because they can't see oh my god I can't do heights I can't do heights, I can't do birds and I'm deathly afraid of the dark I was afraid of the dark until my brother made me not afraid of the dark how do you do that? because my brother he trapped me in the dark He what? And that made you less afraid? Well, once I got over the horror and all my fears, yeah.

1:08:57Okay. But there was screaming involved. Oh, I can't do it. I was very afraid. Can't do it. But eventually. That's impressive. Nothing happened to me. And I kind of learned that. Well, you know, my parents were always busy building the business. And my brother, you know, he raised me-ish or helped, you know, as an older brother does. and I got over my fear of the water because of him, similar fashion, and the dark. And I'm very, I'm grateful. Can't do it. Yeah. I have a whole routine when I go to bed. So, because my, I know many people who are still afraid of the dark. Definitely afraid. But why?

1:09:38Bad things happen in the dark. They do? Good things happen in the dark, too. Depends on where you live. I'm just saying, the dark is what you make it. it's a very scary thing and i do not but it's your own imagination yeah there's something when landon and i go if he goes on the road with me there he goes in the closest bed to the door i go on the farther one because in my mind someone's coming through the door yep and what are they gonna see they're gonna see a child and go nah we're good and because at that time when i hear this, I'm going to have enough time to go out, roll under the bed and hide.

1:10:15Because that intruder You're on your own, Landon. Yes. He is a real human that can fight. This can't anymore. He can. And then they're going to see a child go, nope, we're good. And they're going to leave. This is how my mind works. It's probably not the right way. How I get at home, every light, the next two lights need to be turned on before one turns off. You can't just do a scan and look thoroughly. No way. This one goes on. This one goes on. This one goes off. Next one goes on. Now it's bedtime TV on. Laundry baskets in front of my door because those will alarm me. Of course they'll stop a killer.

1:11:02My ring doorbells and that won't enough. Do you know what will? A dog. But the dog is going to bark at everything so I don't know if it's a mouse, a bug, or an intruder. There's a different kind of bark. I don't want to know those barks. I'm just trying to help Landon out here with the dog. Landon, you're going to end up getting one by the end of this interview. What about a guinea pig, even? Oh, they stink. I wanted to buy a gecko, but I think that was for me. The hay stinks. Yeah, I heard lizards smell. No, no, no. I don't know about lizards. But guinea pigs, I've had two guinea pigs. and the rest in peace willow the both of them now you've lost two guinea pigs yes that's anything to do with the dogs no oh certainly not no oh gee oh i'm sorry for the offend how dare me that you have bears in your house and how they wouldn't go after guinea pigs yeah no they really didn't bother with the guinea pigs not even interested in the slightest ever at least have you had a pinch me moment yet in all your times working with stuff i mean every single one of these episodes sure there's one that's you've been like i can't believe this is happening yes tell us elise um the what is it yes tell us elise so i am a diehard patriots fan we are currently in first place just calling that out for until thursday night maybe but oh he doesn't like it's okay we're friends Sorry.

1:12:32I'll give up on the dog. I mean, you actually even got like the snarly lip and it stayed there. It's sweet. All the referees jerseys have the Patriots. It's okay. Can you just double up his brandy, please? I'm still trying to make the face. I know. That was like a. I get the weird eye. No, it was like the. It was one side. I don't like it. I don't like the Patriots. Anyway. Actually, we beat them in the Super Bowl. Oh. I mean, you guys have more titles than us. Yeah. Long, long time ago. By the way, that was your Dinklage. Any Patriots, anti-Patriots was your Dinklage talk. Hey, what is her Dinklage talk?

1:13:15The one thing that can get to... God damn it. Oh. I don't... Do you have a button? I'm sure. Okay. Never to come out on this? Not yet. Good. I mean, she doesn't like yogurt. I don't like yogurt. Like any kind? No, I don't like the smell of yogurt. I don't like Greek yogurt. It's awful. No, no, any yogurt. So even if you eat it like two hours before she comes into the office and brush your teeth and chew a mint, she comes in and she's like, I smell it in the trash. I smell yogurt somewhere. That's a, that's a, that's a. It's a super skill. I know. That's all I got. Tom Brady? It's like, well, I was going to say it's like Mean Girls where it's like, what's her thing?

1:13:59I have bad breath in the morning. She's got nothing. Nobody? Many things. But those are the things I can't show. Plus, you know, like, yeah, I can be very quick to anger. It serves no purpose, though, really. I can't say it for a reason. But, no, I mean, there's not like any one trigger. I'll give you two. I'm sure there's many. You can hate to engage with me. No. She's staying away from that. No. I'm not saying a word. to save you here my pinch me so the first one was meeting gronk yeah just and it's the patriot setup yes what a dude i mean he's fun he's so fun and he was sitting here chatting with us and she obviously disclosed i was a fan instantly and he took a picture with me like he was oh he's such a good guy he was great and then two weeks later we were chatting with jelly roll so i feel like this whole experience for me is constantly like what what is my life just the nicest he's a great caring great guy most like every i truly feel that every um celebrity i hate the word celebrity too weird about that uh every person in that kind of star power watch his interviews watch he cares about everything he does and the people around him and himself.

1:15:30He talks about the dark places he's been in and all of that. But I feel like everyone at the star power level or just human level can really take so much from him. I agree. He lived a lot. And he's learned what matters most to him. and it's people that's what matters most to him and especially the people he loves but he loves a lot of people literally I feel like if you meet him you're instantly just loved by him he loves millions of people by this point but like he would leave the interview with us and see us at SummerSlam and he was saying hi to every person on this crew, how are you doing, how have you been by name which is my goal because I'm terrible with names awful with names But I remember everybody's story.

1:16:22Like, I'll remember what you told me, but I won't remember your name. That's your story. And it's very embarrassing. That's your story. That's pretty helpful. Oh, yeah. No. I wasn't even giving myself a shout out. Yeah. Oh, how about Dirty Dom now with the... Oh, wait. No, the mustache. I also wanted to call out the neck tattoos I'm seeing. Oh, yes. You talked... You heard it here first. You have any tattoos? No. None. I don't, but I always wanted a tattoo. And I could just never figure out what to get. and then when I was in college I thought oh I'll get the WWF logo thank god I didn't do that oh my god how awesome would that be because I would have just had like a series of many different logos at this point yeah I mean because that's what I could think of what's so meaningful to me I just could never come up with it you have any?

1:17:10no really? that surprises me you don't have any really? yeah no I just I think we've talked about this I can't think of one thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. The starting point is hard. Yeah. And then once you get one, then you get... Awful. Yeah. So instead, I'm like, oh... We were on Dom with the neck. Yeah. Well, he talked about on our podcast how his wife's uncle was like, you just better not get any on the neck. And he went the next day and got one. And now he has like a massive... Huge. Look at it. It's enormous. It looks cool. No, it's... I just got a piece the other day. It looks really cool. And I go, man, my tattoo artist has his neck done.

1:17:51I can't imagine. That's what I was thinking. Maybe that's what I need to do for my neck wrinkles. I don't think. I should get a big ass neck tattoo. I don't think that that's the starting point. You don't think that's the solve? I don't think that's the starting point. No. This logo. Not for my first tattoo. This logo? That logo. Oh, yeah. What's your story? Can we please Photoshop that in right now? Is this thing on? But I feel, yeah, the starting point's the hardest. What's the most meaningful? And that's very hard. I also feel like somehow my body's going to have a negative reaction to the ink.

1:18:34I've seen it. I feel like that would happen to me. I actually believe it would. Based on the tech glitches. Even though somewhat unrelated, like, yes, I have this weird magnet, weird thing. I think the, yeah. They're doing it and they're like, we've never seen this happen before. Right? Right? Just your luck? We're stuck with the WWF logo. We can't change it at this point. Yeah. Go over it, maybe. Yeah. Going into this, I texted a good amount of people. I was so incredibly nervous.

1:19:14Because here's why. And it's still weird to me. Where you are in life, where you've been in life personally, job, corporate, all of that. I view you as a friend, but I also, let's be honest, I'd be crazy to not view you as a boss figure. you know forever and so going into today i was incredibly nervous this is the first time so a year ago i got offered the nostalgia deal the legends contract and i never thought it would happen i was talking about music i was driving to blink 182 with landon and i pulled off on the side of the road he goes oh and I called my dad my dad was the first person I called and I said remember when you told me to not say anything negative yeah I go I just got offered a legends deal and uh it was literally the reaction in his voice was almost more than when I called him when I got hired in the first place I never thought I would be back doing things.

1:20:44So today made me feel so good and so like, I don't know, welcome. And you've told me in messages so many times. You're part of the family.

1:21:02when I got released you reached out to me and said that and so going into today I was very very nervous because I do still view you as more than the friend level as a Elise loves it when I make people nervous I live for it she does but it was instant bang. And you just make people feel comfortable. And you've always done that. Whether it's a person you meet on the street, whether it's someone you're working with, whether it's someone coming in as a guest host, whether it's a child, whether it's another fan, whether it's just a corporate person, a business partner, all of that. You instantly make people feel so comfortable and that's what happened today.

1:21:57And I felt myself letting my guard down and I hate it. I was going to say. Like everyone said, it makes me feel uncomfortable. But it's one of those things where I sincerely, both of you, I cannot thank you enough for this.

1:22:16It makes me feel, walking into this crazy office and headquarters. It is crazy. Made me feel home. You are home. I know. Maybe. And you can say that, but I need to believe it. As we said, as we know by now. And it feels good. God, it feels good. Oh, I love that. I love that. So I think we need to toast to that. Thank you. This is for you, Elise. Thank you so much. Thank you. So do you shoot it or sip it? You don't sip this. No. I can smell it from here. Being home. Here we go. Here's to being home.

1:23:07I could definitely see that I love my life Oh yeah We're dancing We're dancing Oh yeah That's gonna be the best Guys This is the best part of I felt so comfortable And now this is the best yeah blackberry brandy should probably end it now before we say some things thank you guys I mean that thank you yeah thank you so much reach out to me I will you're going to regret this off camera too but I mean it reach out thank you I definitely will LPA I'm coming for you Steph told me to so October 25th which is also my 22nd wedding anniversary is it really? yeah is National Dwarfism Day. International Dwarfism Awareness Day.

1:24:00You guys got married on my day. Yes, we wanted to take it away from you. How do you think I feel?

1:24:07We were like, hmm. I was getting the genetic testing results that day. I was like, fuck, I have to text Stephen Paul at the anniversary. Major life development here, but really, that is the day we found out. I expect that tweet to come out before your wedding tweet oh damn all I can taste is blackberry brandy it's like an elixir almost like now is the cough medicine moment and it's a little bit robitussiny in the beginning it was great but now it's like I think that's why people just keep drinking it because you don't want this moment I'll do a few of those like during the night, but I won't, I won't drink it.

1:24:52Just put myself to sleep. No. It's really, that's, it's a nightcap. This is a, this is end of the bar, see you, bye. That was my joke because I think like my grandmother used to have a little blackberry brandy. Brandy, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it was like the night. So I was like, it smells like my childhood. A little dark. No Hennessy for you. I almost brought a bottle of that too. Just to make myself laugh. I can't do Hennessy. No? No. what's the Jaegermeister yeah oh that's college for me other people that's coffee other people were college and I was in WWE well yeah I mean you were 19 19 yeah Jaeger Chavo and Gregory and Hurricane loved Jaeger really those were names of alcohol when he was Chavo Gregory and Hurricane October 25th International Dwarfism Awareness Day It's international October 25th International Dwarfism Awareness Day You said 24th Maybe we do these reads before the brandy October 25th National Dwarfism Awareness You put me on the spot This is the issue Oh yes Yes.

1:26:12October 25th. You can't do that. I'm just helping you out. Guys, October 25th, national, international, fuck.

1:26:27Guys, October 25th, International Dwarfism Awareness Month. Poor day. Nope, I'm done.

1:26:37Now this is good. I like this. October 25th, International Dwarfism Awareness Day. Let's go. Woo! All right. I'm sweating.