In short
Bela Bajaria’s career path to becoming Netflix’s Chief Content Officer, plus lessons on work ethic, storytelling, relationships, and handling public failure; includes her views on streaming and Netflix’s push into live events.
Guest backgrounds
Bela Bajaria is an Indian-born executive (born in London; parents from East Africa) who grew up in Zambia and the UK, moved to Los Angeles in the late 1970s, and started in entertainment after working as a cashier at her family’s car wash. She later rose through major TV studio roles (including Universal Television) and became Netflix’s CCO.
Key claims
Big dreams are necessary even when the exact job doesn’t exist yet; leadership means treating every task as “your business”; relationships and trust enable hard conversations with creators; being fired can be identity-redefining and ultimately liberating; streaming is “now,” not just the future.
Notable examples
Watching American TV to learn culture (Bewitched, Brady Bunch, John Hughes films); handwritten applications to Hollywood companies; selling shows outside sister networks (e.g., supporting creators by licensing to Netflix); being fired from Universal in 2016 and using a summer to be present with her kids; Netflix live events like Chris Rock stand-up, Tom Brady roast, boxing, and Alex Honnold’s climb with Seth Rollins commentary.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBela's Early Life and Family Background
1:50 to 4:25
Bela shares her upbringing in a large Indian family and life in different countries.
“Well, I'm not sure I say the biggest budget in Hollywood.”
The Impact of Storytelling on Bela
4:25 to 8:13
Explore how television influenced Bela's understanding of American culture and identity.
“So, again, you think way back when, right?”
Bela's Journey into Entertainment
9:31 to 14:03
Bela discusses her early ambitions and the steps she took to enter the entertainment industry.
“and you said you knew you wanted to get into entertainment and that you wanted to be the head of a studio.”
The Power of Dreaming Big
14:03 to 15:51
Learn the significance of setting ambitious goals and the impact on success.
“writers and directors and just the more of the making because the studio kind of is definitely more of that.”
Work Ethic and Lessons from the Car Wash
17:00 to 20:55
Explore how early work experiences shaped a strong work ethic and accountability.
“And again, because my parents wanted that opportunity for their kids.”
Navigating Career Paths and Opportunities
20:55 to 22:20
Understand the importance of flexibility and openness to new career opportunities.
“So, right, there's the, you know, ooh, dream happened.”
Facing Setbacks: The Emotional Roller Coaster
22:20 to 28:00
Learn about the challenges of facing a career setback and its impact on family.
“So 2016 – 2011, I was turning Universal 2016.”
Navigating Public Failure
28:00 to 30:20
Learn how to cope with professional setbacks and find personal growth in failure.
“absolutely get fired from big dream job that's very public and I was still gonna get you know back up and right and I think we talk about this a lot right motivational there's posters and pillow stitched over it.”
Finding Perspective in Setbacks
30:20 to 32:30
Discover the importance of taking time to reflect and regroup after career turmoil.
“It was summer, so all my kids were home.”
Embracing New Opportunities
32:30 to 36:20
Understand the value of curiosity and learning in pursuing new career paths.
“I'd say growth is painful, but it's worth it.”
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The Power of Relationships in Business
41:26 to 42:00
Explore how interpersonal relationships influence success in the entertainment industry.
“So how, so I think a few different things, because when you're a cashier, you're interacting with a lot of different customers, right?”
The Importance of Relationships in Content Creation
42:00 to 44:10
Explore how personal relationships influence storytelling in media.
“And understanding who they are and what they need and what they like and what they don't like.”
Multi-Generational Impact of WWE
44:10 to 47:56
Discuss how WWE connects different generations through shared experiences.
“So I think, you know, that's really important.”
Empathy and Storytelling Success
47:56 to 50:46
Understand how empathy plays a crucial role in storytelling and audience connection.
“that the content's going to have on the audience at least of course you hope but you've hit you've of many home runs.”
Innovations in Live Events at Netflix
50:46 to 53:26
Learn about Netflix's strategy and innovations in live event productions.
“in this – in the way that you all have done for so long.”
Embracing Dual Identities through Pageantry
53:26 to 56:00
Discover how pageantry helped shape a complex identity blending American and Indian cultures.
“There's no heroics over like this is the date and we promoted it.”
Embracing Dual Identity
56:00 to 56:45
Learn how Bela Bajaria reconciled her Indian and American identities.
“The group, all of that, and this kind of American go after what you want, individuality, swagger, all the rest that comes with that.”
Preparing for the Professional World
56:45 to 57:46
Explore the significance of real-world experiences in interviews and careers.
“So I didn't have to do that work later on or in the workplace.”
The Pageant Experience
57:46 to 58:56
Bela shares insights from her pageant experience and its impact on her identity.
“And how to, because that's, you're almost creating content in a way, right?”
Finding Strength After Adversity
58:56 to 1:00:00
Learn how Bela drew on her community and identity during tough times.
“Like understanding who you are as a person is such a gift, I think.”
The Importance of Relationships
1:00:00 to 1:01:54
Bela discusses the value of friendships and support in her career journey.
“I mean, even Richard White's from your shop.”
Maya Angelou's Wisdom
1:01:54 to 1:03:09
Reflect on the profound impact of how we make others feel, as stated by Maya Angelou.
“But I do remember, and Richard and I were friendly for sure.”
The WWE and Netflix Partnership
1:03:09 to 1:05:07
Bela expresses excitement about the collaborative efforts between WWE and Netflix.
“You're responsible for what, 18 to$20 billion worth of content.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Steph McMahon:The Bleacher Report app is your destination for sports. Right now, the NBA is heating up, March Madness is here, and MLB is almost back. Every day there's a new headline, a new highlight, a new moment you've got to see for yourself. That's why I stay locked in with the Bleacher Report app. For me, it's about staying connected to my sports. I can follow the teams I care about, get real-time scores, breaking news, and highlights all in one place. Download the Bleacher Report app today so you never miss a moment. Indian girl, British accent. Grew up in a big extended Indian family. And when I moved here, first I got teased a lot because I had a British accent.
0:41Even though I wish I had kept it. That you kept it. Somebody should have told me way better to keep it as you get older. Oh, what's your story? Don't you dare be sour. Clap for Stephanie and feel the power.
1:10Steph McMahon:All right. So thank you so much, Bella Fajeri, for doing this podcast with us. And I'd like to just start off. We don't normally do introductions anymore. But for the audience who doesn't know, how does someone go from being a cashier at the car wash to becoming the first woman of color to oversee a major U.S. television studio when you were named president of Universal Television. And now you're responsible for one of, if not the largest budget for content in Hollywood. This is your story. The name of the pod is What's Your Story? And we just want to learn all about you. Oh, great. Thank you.
1:48I'm happy to be here. So how do you tell us? That's a lot. Yes, exactly. Well, I'm not sure I say the biggest budget in Hollywood. Maybe the world. Well, in entertainment. Yes, exactly. As far as I'm going to come to entertainment. You know, I think how does that happen? It's, you know, it's an interesting story. And there's so much in retrospect that I learned from those cashier days. And actually when I was a cashier at a car wash was my parents' car wash. So I was born in London. I'm Indian. And my parents are Indian but from East Africa. And so I lived in Zambia when I was younger. I lived in London.
2:32And we moved to the U.S. in the late 70s. And it was very American dream time, right?
2:40Steph McMahon:And your parents moved slightly before you, right? And my parents moved a few years before I did. Not intentionally. They thought they were going to come and figure out America, where to live, what to do. And they had the idea they would move to Los Angeles and open car washes. That was really the idea. And Los Angeles really was picked instead of New York or New Jersey or a lot of other places that had a lot of Indians. It was because my dad really wanted to recreate that Africa lifestyle. Climate, weather, ocean, amazing things for him in Tanzania. And so Los Angeles was it. and I'm very thankful to him.
3:17This beautiful 80 degrees that we're living in in March is great. And they you know that was really kind of come to America American dream opportunity. And at that point we were living in London and my parents moved a couple years before I did. Really they thought they were just going to move a few months before I did. And then was your mom pregnant at the time? My mom was not my mom. My brother was six months old. And so they took my brother with them. And I was very close to my grandparents and to my mom's older brothers and sisters. And so I stayed in the UK as they got settled. And then I just couldn't get a visa.
4:02So then became sort of the few years that I didn't see them because if they left, they couldn't get back in. And I couldn't sort of go, you know, I didn't get a visa. The interesting thing is as a parent now, I can't imagine, right, not being with my kids during that age. But I was the first and oldest grandchild, right? So I lived with all my aunts and uncles and my grandparents. So I was completely doted on. You were very loved. Yes. I was loved beyond. So, again, you think way back when, right? No FaceTime and phone calls were expensive. So it was really like every couple of weeks where I would get on the phone and talk to my parents.
4:44And you were like five to eight? I was like four. Yeah, like four to like eight. Like four and a half to like eight. And the interesting thing was though, I really was so spoiled and so taken care of.
4:57Steph McMahon:So I don't remember it being traumatic as what I would imagine now. When I look back and go, oh, that must have been really traumatic. But I don't know. I was so taken care of that I didn't. Well, that's good. It's so much like maternal, paternal affection and care from so many people. And I'm still very close to all those aunts and uncles because they raised me. Are they still in the UK or are they here now? Besides one aunt, everybody else, you know, moved. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it was great because when I got to move, then I got to like they all kind of came with. So it was fun because then I had all my community.
5:33All my community together. Which was great because I had everybody who really took great care of me and was very supportive. So that was fun. So when I moved here, there was so much that was really impactful about filming TV. Because when I moved to L.A., Indian girl, British accent, grew up in a big extended Indian family, had parents that were self-employed. So they weren't in corporate America with access to lots of different people. It was really kind of a big Indian community. And when I moved here, first I got teased a lot outside of British accent, even though I wish I had kept it. That you kept it.
6:17Somebody should have told me way better to keep it as you get older. But when you're nine, you can't. The sort of brown Indian and the British accent was a bit too much. And so something had to go. The brown was obviously not going anywhere. And so I would go home every single day after school and I would watch film and TV. And it was to do a couple of things. One, to get rid of my accent. This is why I sound like I'm on a TV show in the U.S. basically. What were you watching? I watched so many things. I watched I Dream of Jeannie and Bewitched and Gomer Pile. Did you try to wiggle your nose? Oh, my God.
6:56All this time? Yeah. I could never get it. I can't. I can't do the eyebrow thing. I can scrunch it.
7:00Steph McMahon:I could do the eyebrow thing, but I have too much Botox now. You should be able to do it. Oh, see? I used to try to do the twitchy thing. Dallas and Dynasty, like, we'd actually watch, like, as a family. I always say, like, it's like, you know, it feels very big Bollywood, a lot of melodrama, big multi-generational kind of story. But I – so I would watch it to kind of – to learn American culture because it was very different, right? They were growing up in an Indian family. And even though nobody looked like me on TV, it was sort of a really interesting way to kind of understand a little bit more about American culture, you know, and ultimately like John Hughes movies, which were very defining to me about trying to really understand kind of high school kind of in the U.S.
7:49But the one thing, though, I was always struck by, and I remember it. I don't even know what it meant to me, but I remember that I knew that we all watched the same TV shows and movies. So when I went to school, right, we all watched B-Witch. We all watched Brady Bunch. And it was the one thing, it didn't matter what our background was, we were connected by this thing. And that definitely made me feel less weird, right, that we were connected by this. And so I was always struck and kind of struck by this like power of storytelling or the influence of filming TV. And I had no idea that could be a job because that just was so far from anything I would even know existed.
8:34But I always remembered that.
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9:56I know I didn't have that skill. And as I got probably like high school, college, it was a little bit like, and I kind of felt that I was a producer, but I didn't really know what that meant. But I understood like, oh, maybe I could put the pieces together, but I'm not any of the craft part of it. And I didn't really know what any of that was as a job. But I always, I was kind of drawn to what that would be. And that was really, for an Indian girl, especially at that time, to go into Hollywood, like was really didn't make any sense. It was unheard of, of what's the path. People hadn't really done it.
10:35And, you know, I was lucky that my dad always told me that I could be anything I ever wanted to be, and I believed him. And so it didn't really occur to me that the path wasn't.
10:48Steph McMahon:So linear. Yeah, or for me, like that it wasn't. You know, a lot of people are kind of like, well, why did you think you could do it? And I was like, I don't know. I never thought I couldn't do it. But at some point, so way back in the day, because it was a long time ago, there was something called the Hollywood Creative Directory, which is basically a phone book. Right. Everybody, all the companies in Hollywood, Hollywood Creative Directory. That's like exactly what it is. And somebody told me. It was a physical book. A physical book. Yes, like the phone book. Like the phone book. And somebody said, oh, all the companies are in there.
11:21And so I just wrote letters just kind of for a general. To every single company.
11:27Steph McMahon:Handwritten, typed? Typed. Okay. Typed. But to every single. Like literally started at A. And it was tiny companies, big companies. And CBS Network had called me back for a general. And it was with a woman in the story department. And I don't even know why she was like, okay, I'll meet you for a general. And then she said, look, we don't have anything. But, you know, this woman down the hall has had a temp assistant for all these years. She's hiring. She's very difficult to work for. But she's hiring. You could try that. And so I really interviewed with her five times. I did a 10-page essay written application for her.
12:13Steph McMahon:Wow. What was the essay about? Do you remember? She would just ask all – it was all, like, different essay questions about. Like, some would be, like, you know, what's your favorite, you know, talk about. because it was TV movies and miniseries, like a really kind of epic, you know, long form or defining movie or miniseries, right? And so I was like, roots. Like, I was just like, oh my God, what am I going to come up with? But it was lots of that or what would you do when people come into the office? And it was like, it was interesting that it was a written test. And I remember just sitting in the lobby, like filling it out.
12:47It was just like pages and pages of a handwritten, you know test and when i got the job finally and i think she kind of gave it to me because it had been so long and i said like i can't keep coming to you like how many more times am i going to interview with you and also my parents gave me good advice they're like you should just tell her like just do a trial right like you don't have an assistant anyways you might as well try me for 30 days yeah and let me temp and then i pitched that and then she said like oh it's kind a big corporation like we can't just like I can't kind of trial you and fire you in 30 days and so but then I think just even proposing that she was like okay fine and when I got into the business at that time and that was 90 March of 96 here we are exactly 30 years wow and when I got into the business I feel like I was in for a few months where like I knew enough at that point about the business.
13:46I mean, I barely do anything, but I understood kind of how it worked. And that's really when I was like, oh, I want to run a TV studio. That was kind of early days. And I wanted to be on the studio side. I wanted to be closer to the making of things, working closer with writers and directors and just the more of the making because the studio kind of is definitely more of that. And that's what I was like, oh, my dream is I'm going to run a TV studio.
14:11Steph McMahon:Which is still pretty early on. Like you're an assistant. Yes. Eventually that was the dream. It wasn't going to happen, you know. Right? No, but I mean what is the, do you think is the importance of dreaming big, of having big goals? Because if you don't ever have that goal, you're certainly never going to get there. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And look, I think it's interesting because I've been asked a lot, which is so interesting to me in interviews through the years of like kind of wasn't that dream too big? Like, right? Like, how could you even think you could? Right. Which is also a crazy question.
14:46Yeah. There's a lot in there of why. But, you know, and I was like, I go, clearly, though, here's the thing. The dream wasn't big enough. Right. Because the job I ended up with was way bigger than that job. Right. This job didn't exist. That was a dream job. This is a dream, dream job. Right. But CCO of Netflix didn't exist in a global way, right, that this job does. Streaming didn't even exist. Streaming didn't exist. Like, so I couldn't even dream. Like, this was any of it. It was a dream job. I couldn't do that this time. So I was like, actually, the dream wasn't too big. The dream actually ended up being not big enough.
15:19But it was interesting. And I think the sort of following gut or, well, kind of why not me, right? Why can't I run a TV studio? It was interesting how many people around me were kind of like either people who look like you don't or, well, that's really ambitious of a goal. And I was like, yeah, it is. And I'm going to work my ass off to get it. But that was sort of, that was the goal.
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16:40Steph McMahon:Use code STORY10, S-T-O-R-Y-1-0 for 10 % off your next set of tickets at SeatGeek. That's 10 % off any tickets with promo code STORY10. Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you, SeatGeek. so I want to hear more about what it means to work your ass off to get it right because working hard is something that's imperative to really achieving the goals that you want to achieve but I want to understand the connection from the lessons that you learned from being a cashier at the car wash because you you said it was a cutthroat kind of business and I'm I'm just curious the bridge there and you know sort of the lessons you learned working with people or what you even meant you know by the car wash i think look i think working at the car wash for me was more about it's the work ethic and i think lots of people not just immigrants but definitely immigrants too like so for my family right to come to america and try to make it in a new place new land new build a community start over show up and go okay we're going to try to make a go of it here.
17:58And again, because my parents wanted that opportunity for their kids. One part I think of the drive and the work ethic is I was the oldest kid and I understood and saw, because I was sitting in the UK and then moved here, obviously, the sacrifice my parents made. So the responsibility that I felt to make it was real. I felt to make good on what they did and what they sacrificed. it was important that I made it. And so that was part of the drive in the work. And I'd say the car wash was more about, because we own the car wash, right, it's like running your own business, right, and what that takes, right?
18:40What's that community you build around you? How do you treat people who work with you or for you? And you just sort of treat everything like it's your own there. And, you know, I've always said when I was at CBS and I had my cubicle as an assistant and I waited until like 10 p.m. for the messenger to pick up, you know, the pouch. And people were like, why are you staying here until 10? I was like, I want to make sure it goes out. And they're kind of like, well, that's not your – I mean, who cares? Just leave it here and somebody will get it. But for me, it was my mini car wash. My cubicle was the car wash.
19:15Right. Universal Television Studio was my car wash. Right. Netflix in the different senses. But it was this responsibility of it's my business and I'm going to – that means how do people feel when they work here? What is my responsibility? I'm accountable for the culture. I'm accountable for what happens here. So I'd say the cashier at our car wash was really – the learnings were really about the work ethic and this is your responsibility, right? Like this is you are accountable for this space in the area. You're not just here to do this one job. And I think growing up in family businesses, it – Yeah.
19:56You're like – and by the way, there's no job in my parents' head, right? Too big, too small. Oh, yeah. Anything you would ask somebody else to do at this car wash, and that could be wiping these cars down, cleaning this. Somebody leaves a slurpee on the floor. Like pick it up. Yep. Whatever you would do, whatever you would ask somebody to do, you better be willing to do yourself.
20:14Steph McMahon:Yep. And set the example. Yep. It sounds like leadership was a real key lesson that you learned there too. Yeah. And I think my parents really created an environment. Like my dad passed away a long time ago. But my mom, like we still have those employees, many from them from 45, 50 years ago and their kids, right, or their family members, right? Because it was this, what they built, right? As far as like the team together, the familial feeling or the community. I mean, there was a lot in there, which I think I definitely took from. And then emulated. And emulated. Yeah. And, you know, I think that's, you know, a lot of it.
20:54And so for me was, you know, when I, so 2011, I went to Universal. So, right, there's the, you know, ooh, dream happened. I got to run a TV studio. Amazing. And so, again, seems like I had the dream. It happened. But it was still 1996 to 2011, right? I took a lot of things happen in between to get there. But I do think it is important of like, where do I want to go? And it's interesting. I don't think you always have to be locked into what ultimately that goal is because you learn things along the way. There might be another opportunity that arises, which is actually better or different. And I definitely took a path and it wasn't a straight.
21:36It never is. It wasn't a linear one. And so I think it's interesting to have this big goal of what you want to achieve or the impact you want to have, but also be open to when something else comes right and surprises you. Like when I came to Netflix in 2016, I did different kinds of jobs that I had never done before. But at that point, I was open to learning new things. And I was like, oh, I should, you know, gratifying, liberating, and terrifying once you have the dream job. Then you go, what do I – oh, I was working towards this one goal. What do I do from here? Right? We can – we'll go back.
22:22Let's go back for a second. So 2016 – 2011, I was turning Universal 2016. I was fired. and it's you know a so difficult and complicated when it happens so emotional when it happens not great for the indian stoic genes to sort of handle well and all the pressure that you've put
22:48Steph McMahon:on yourself yeah right you know and and you then achieve the dream job and now suddenly it's not there anymore or what you thought was yes and you know thought you know the studio was successful oh I treated people fairly and right I did right I made their decisions for the business like it was my car wash like they were they were right and you did some unusual things right by selling content to other studios which hadn't necessarily been done before yeah and I've read that that like whatever you feel comfortable sharing what what was their reasoning you know look i knew there was always gonna be a personality thing there was also the way it was structured and the reporting lines were a little murky which is always is not good right when you have clarity and historically in hollywood there's this tension between sibling studios you know the sister studio and the network and the studio has to do usually what's right for the studio where I'm running a business.
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23:52I'm running this business. I want to be successful. And which means then you sell shows outside. You do that to support the creators and showrunners who are like, oh, I came up with this idea. I wrote this thing.
24:02Steph McMahon:And you believed in it. And I believed in it. This network, my sister network doesn't want it. We're not going to like light it on fire, stick in a drawer. Like it's a creator who we value, who's amazing and has a vision of a really great show and we are going to go to fox and go sell it or we are going to go to netflix and go sell you know unbreakable kimmy schmidt or master of men or different things like we are going to do that that's first of all it's right for this right that's part of the business i'm running the studio and it was the right thing to do to support creators and talent that many times can be in conflict with the scissor network who's a little bit like well we want your good stuff and you we want you to be successful we don't really want you to be sex well outside and give other people head shows right so it's it's it's historically a very it's always messy and you know it it was a very
25:01emotional difficult roller coaster all the stages all grief all of the things happen when you get fired um a very hard thing to tell your three kids you've been fired it's just there's no what did you tell them how did you tell them it was a memorial weekend and and how old were they roughly 2016 so
25:3014 11 12 and like
25:37Steph McMahon:what is that yes yes nine nine so like nine thank you elise nine 14 nine 13 15 so um early teens so i think you know look i just think it's you know these are things that people don't talk about where it's when you have to go home and sort of have that that conversation they're also i had to have lots of hard conversations with my girls too yeah yeah you know you kind of want to give it to them straight but also not burden them with a thing that's like you don't have to worry about money or well and then mine had the whole family lens too yes yes you know tricky yeah for sure but so that's why i'm curious like how you because you're obviously well to me you seem to be such a great mom you know and you talk about the time that you have and you know you're obviously a very busy executive but when you're home with your kids that your time is theirs so someone who's so on top of that and communicating with your kids and who comes from such a strong family base anyway what what was the what did you want them to take away from the conversation and the example that you know I don't know what I wanted them to take away from the conversation my husband was incredibly supportive which was amazing because I was just like what am I gonna say and then I figured I just had to give it to them straight but be like you don't need to worry right so I'm fine but it's but I'm not fine but I'm not fine but I'm gonna present like I'm fine right and then a couple things that were interesting for me was that I realized early on first I had to realize oh I'm gonna have to go through the roller coaster of emotions which I'm not great at but I was like okay I'm gonna have to go on the ride and it's gonna I'm gonna have to go through it because I can't get to the other side without going through it and a lot of amazing people who are incredibly supportive during this time just colleagues and just a lot of people in the industry which helped because you're you I felt I did all these things I thought I was fair I emailed my business together I thought I did a good job it didn't matter it didn't matter and I was like oh then you realize it does matter right and all these people continue to be supportive and around and even when I didn't have a job you know kept kept checking with me I did realize early on though that however I navigated this and the way I showed up was gonna be what my kids would remember like what's the lesson I wanted them to learn I wanted them to learn as you can absolutely get fired from big dream job that's very public and I was still gonna get you know back up and right and I think we talk about this a lot right motivational there's posters and pillow stitched over it.
28:19There's so much about failure and how good. But we don't really celebrate failure and sort of talk about it that way. And I did, there was, I was very aware that at some point they were going to grow up and look back at that and go, oh, how did my mom show up during this time? Or, oh, I'm not scared of this setback in my own career because I saw my mom get fired very publicly and I saw her go and have some awesome career after at that time at a nose I figured it would be look at that point I think once you get fired you kind of go I get better myself it's actually very liberating and I will say in retrospect I there's nothing I have learned
29:02Steph McMahon:more from than that yeah no matter what because you learned about yourself learned about myself I think as much as we say, oh, my job's my identity. I have all this. It's not that. You do have to sort of then go, ooh. Who actually am I? I am more of my identity than I thought. Right. I never really thought. And when you worked so hard to get there and then it's taken from you. But then you don't think intellectually that it is tied up to your identity or ego. And you're like, oh, it is. Interesting. Okay. What does that really mean? And I think liberating in the sense of I'm not scared to get fired again.
29:40Steph McMahon:Yeah. I just bet on myself. Like I'm not. What's the worst that can happen? Yeah. Would I get fired? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all good. And there is something very powerful about that. And it's, of course, it took me, it's been many years. So now I can tell this. It took me a long time to say the word fire because it hurts. Say it out loud is tricky. And it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Did you have any help getting through that couple year period or you just kind of rolled through it? I rolled through it. I'd say what I'm lucky for during that time is that a couple things. It was summer, so all my kids were home.
30:26So I really got to be home and present.
30:29Steph McMahon:For like two, three months. For three months. But it was a beautiful summer. We had a safari planned already. It's a Tanzania to San Juan. So it was amazing to go be on safari. Never take my phone because I was with my family. Wow. And just actually really be there, which is really a great place to go for perspective. Yeah. and how small we are on the whole large you know um cycle of life and um so i mean that but i had the three months where i really could be present and at home and i could pick up from sports camp and yeah do all the things around yeah and really be there and and get some space and figure out what i actually wanted to do next because the first inclination was like i should get a job I have to go work.
31:20And then it was like, no, I need to sit back and really kind of like have some space and time and figure out what I want to do next. I also have my mom is incredibly supportive. And I said my husband was. And we're really great sounding boards. But I think I had this amazing, I did have this amazing community. And I think when people will say sometimes about Hollywood of like, oh, it's so cutthroat or people aren't supportive, everybody's competitive. I in Hollywood who really stayed in touch and stood by me and were like, you know, offered me jobs or willing to find me jobs and lots of things.
31:58So I had that and I'd say I have a very strong
32:07village of a lot of everything. Spiritual advisors, woo-woo everything, tap into lots of being grounded in yoga. There's a lot of things I sort of did during that time that really centered me, but also I was aware or I had good advice of, I also had to just go through it.
32:29Steph McMahon:Yeah. You have to experience it. Yeah. I'd say growth is painful, but it's worth it. That's something that I learned along the way. Yes, yes. And it was definitely, you know, that was, I was like, oh, this is uncomfortable. I think that's supposed to be good. You're supposed to lean into it, right? Yes, exactly. Just like lean into it. And for the first month, I was just like, oh, no, thank you. I'm going to show that to the side. We'll feel that later. We're going to leave that over there. But it's so interesting, right, with time and the learning and the growth and what happened. It's interesting.
33:11I don't know for me if I didn't have those three kids at home. I don't really know what that would look like. I was super aware of what did I want to model for them.
33:23Steph McMahon:And you can never get that summer back, right? Like you got to be present with them. Yeah. And that part was so fun. Yeah. Because I was just, ooh, this is fine. Have you been home all day? Have they said to you any comments about, like, now on the other side of things, have they said anything about that time at all? No, I think they love so much that, you know, I was, I guess, clearly vindicated in so many ways. Yeah. I think they love that. You know, they used to grow up going to, because we literally lived so close to it, Universal, all the time. I'm not sure they go as much as they used to.
34:09It's not the same fondness. Sure, sure. Different. Yes, it's different. But I think, no, we haven't really said anything. I think they were just like, ooh, Netflix. And for them, right, Netflix is very relevant. Yeah, it's the coolest. And when I started working there. So I think they've just got to also, they were also old enough, even at that time and this time, to really see, right, the journey and the growth. And I think also when I went to Netflix, I was like, oh, I'm going to go. You know, when I met with Ted, he was like, oh, I'm going to offer you. He's like, you should come start the Unscripted group and you should oversee licensing and this new co-production model.
34:49And I was like, well, for 20 years I've done scripted television and I've read his studio. I don't know how to do any of those things. You just pitched me. and he was like yeah I just hire smart people you'll figure it out and the good news was I had had those few months to have a little distance and then I was kind of like why not I should have learned something new yeah I know I don't know those things I actually should add that right that would be interesting and I was like in the right headspace I wouldn't have been right away because it wasn't as big or seemingly fancy enough of a, you know, we're running a studio, so you're going to start the unscripted group at Netflix.
35:28And Netflix, think about 2016, was not Netflix today. But I really was like, I really don't care what people think or say. And I was really more in the curiosity of like, oh, I just want to stretch and learn something new.
35:46Steph McMahon:Do you think you cared about what people thought or said before? I think there was something caught up with the title of the job. Yeah. Right. I think there's something of like, I finally made president of a studio, right? There's something, right? And when you do that, it's hard to then go, oh, am I just going to take a different job? Right. Lesser title thing, right? Is it a demotion? Is it a demotion? I could, and look, and I love people saying, oh, but you had more equivalent job offers. And I was like, no, I know I did, but I already did that. Why am I doing it again? And I think having those few months of really having space and time to get back to the curiosity of wanting to, like, learn something different.
36:30And I thought at that point, everybody kept saying, you know, streaming is the future. And I was like, no, I think streaming is now. We're just not paying attention to it. And I knew Ted Sarandos from – because I'd done Kimmy Schman and Master of None. And, you know, I was always fond of him and he was always so smart and was such a fan of film and TV. And his energy is kind of infectious, but he really was like, it'll be fun. You'll learn new things. And I was like, okay. Right. I mean, literally in that same day, moment, hour, I made the decision.
37:02Steph McMahon:It felt right. Yeah. And there's not a moment of imposter syndrome? There's not a little bit of you that's like, what if I fail here? No. And I'd say for a couple of reasons. So I'll say one is because it's sort of I knew I was confident to bet on myself. I came into a studio. I started the whole thing. I hired everybody. Like I just felt like I had done so many different things by then that I had the skill set of like building a new thing. Right? Going into kind of more a company that had tech DNA, even though an entertainment company, was kind of the learning and the growth of it. And I have a thing that I don't – I refuse to sort of entertain the imposter syndrome thing because I think men never get asked it.
37:51So I just think nobody knows how to do the job until they have the job. Like nobody does. There's no way. As prepared as you are, you have all the skills. And they are very applicable, right, obviously, to the new thing. And then you learn it. But I just feel like once I'd done the work, and I felt like I definitely had done the work by then, that I was more excited. That doesn't mean I didn't have like a little, ooh, stomachache. Right, right. Or do I know? I mean, look, a couple years later, I went to expand everything outside the U.S. That's one of the questions I was going to ask you. That was, you know, again, all of those are a little sort of, ooh, there's a little stomachache.
38:32But I have always learned to go towards that because that means it's uncomfortable. So I'm stretching and there's growth there. Yeah. Right. I think when I offered something that if I'm like, yeah, I can do that, that's probably not – You won't be so happy. You probably don't want me to do it because that just feels like I'm not probably excited enough to do it. and so no I just think and I think I definitely felt at that time I already been fired so I'm not I was just fine to bet on myself
39:05Steph McMahon:I love that yeah it really is such a position of strength which I was at bed like I'll do this and maybe if I don't like it or I'll learn for a year or two and then I'll leave I just had a different relationship with a job. I want to come and learn and I wasn't scared to get fired. So even if I didn't I never occurred to me. I wouldn't do a good job. If I didn't do a good job, I didn't know it. If I didn't like it. Right. Yeah. WWE World returns to Las Vegas this April 16th through the 20th and it's the can't miss destination during Wrestlemania week. WWE World brings the WWE Universe closer than ever to the superstars, legends, and iconic moments that define WWE.
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40:46Steph McMahon:The 2026 Fanatics Games introduces an expanded format with a$2 million total prize pool and new nationwide qualifying opportunities for fans to compete alongside elite athletes. The inaugural winner, Tom Brady, as well as reigning fan champion Matt Denish will be back. WWE superstars Rhea Ripley, Liv Morgan, Cody Rhodes, and Jey Uso will also be joining the competition for a shot at the title. Head to fanaticsfest.com to apply to compete or grab your tickets to Fanatics Fest. You don't want to miss out. So how, so I think a few different things, because when you're a cashier, you're interacting with a lot of different customers, right?
41:36Steph McMahon:It's not just the employee base that you're dealing with, but you're interacting with the actual customers. And, you know, I had the opportunity. I was switchboard operator for our company before there was automation and everything. And I dealt with a lot of fans, you know, and also partners and everybody else. But a lot of fans. There was no fan services department at that time. But I do think, you know, speaking to your customers is so important. And understanding who they are and what they need and what they like and what they don't like. and it seems like your personability, if that's a word, the way that you interact with people really started maybe there.
42:21Steph McMahon:And in terms of building the relationships that you then went on to build that then paid it forward for you, when you did have this really hard situation that you went through, the people who you were there for were actually there for you. and you speak about the importance of relationships in terms of even creating content and you know the the writers the directors the the show runners etc and you talk a lot about the importance of being in person um so again I'm sort of trying to tie some bridges together in terms of people and and the importance of of people in your line of work yeah I think look it's such a relationship business right it's I mean look at obviously you know what you do it's it's a lot of people come together in a very collaborative environment and you know create some magic and great story people have different skill set different personalities and everybody comes together to to create this so the relationships again trust vulnerability you know and for me it was always like building those relationships because I understood that a writer director and actor I I mean, they are putting themselves out there in the most vulnerable way, right?
43:39Telling a story, you know, showing up in front of people and like, you know, performing and what that really takes. And so having that trust and building a relationship, right, is important. And the, you know, this is important to you, so it's important to me. Like, I'm going to support your vision. But I think also having that trust is when things get hard or real tough conversations have to happen, like we've built a trust and we've built a relationship so we can have that right with each other. So I think, you know, that's really important. And I think also so much for me is like the big Indian extended family, like the village, the community, the people, the relationships.
44:21It's just to me it makes the whole thing go round and round.
44:24Steph McMahon:Yeah. It was the example that was set for you too. And does your mom, she still cooks weekly? She does. For hundreds? Hundreds of people. At the Hindu temple? Yes. Yes. Temple and Bellflower, and she's still cooking for everybody. She's just under construction. She's making a big renovation, and she just got back from India and bought all the furniture and statues and everything for inside, and she's still – she's an amazing cook, so it's very lucky that she cooks for hundreds of people. but she does but I think that it's instilled in you so part of it which probably also makes sense that I'm besides sort of understanding kind of the power of storytelling and how it connects people and how people feel seen through it that it makes sense that I right drawn to a business and industry thing that is really about bringing people together Thousands of people collaborating together.
45:28And how do you create that environment, right, for people to do their best work and have fun and be creative and be bold and take swings and what is that about? I mean, you all do that every week. That's what WWE is all about. That's what you do every week. Yeah. Yeah.
45:45Steph McMahon:And we have, you know, our audience and our talent roster, it's very diverse. Yeah. You know, people from all different backgrounds, beliefs, you know, socioeconomic, you know, places. But they all come together to share this thing that they love, this passion for WWE. It's beautiful. And it does bring people together all over the world. Yes, I've seen it. I've seen it, you know, firsthand. I mean, I think it's so interesting WWE being like just so multi-generational. and even in being there in the audience, I mean, just different ages, different backgrounds, people from all over, I mean, just faces lit up and excited and know every single thing that's going on.
46:29Steph McMahon:And they want to bring you into it. Yeah, and they want to bring you into it. If you ask somebody like, so who's that? They're going to tell you everything. Yes, exactly. The whole backstory. And they want to share it and they're connected by it. And, you know, when I remember, so my grandfather the grandparents that I lived with in London when we moved here you know we'd always watch it together and you know my grandfather and I watched. Oh so you watched growing up? Yeah growing up. Oh wow. It was such a big thing we did together. Yeah. And so I really always understood the multi-generational you know part of it and I actually remember he was in the hospital dying I was in the hospital room and we were you know he was there and one of the last things he asked me was to turn the TV on to watch you're kidding yeah so it was like such a that's what he you know wanted to do but we had always watched it together for a long time so that gives me such goosebumps so I really understood and I'm always laughing I'm like oh my god what he wanted to do in there was watch well and probably too like from your standpoint you know what it felt like to be vulnerable because you felt like you were so different and you are obviously an empathetic person and I think that makes for a great storyteller because you connect with people in an emotional way and you understand the impact that the content's going to have on the audience at least of course you hope but you've hit you've of many home runs.
48:08Steph McMahon:You seem to have quite the knack for it. But also, not only from the audience standpoint, but from the creator's standpoint. And this is their baby, right? And this is their work of art. But because you're so empathetic, because of who you are, how you were raised, and what you went through, I think that's one of the keys to your success. Would you agree with that? Thank you. I think, yeah, look, I think it's all very,
48:37genuine in the sense of I'm just so excited when somebody it's been 30 years and somebody can still come in and tell a story or have a vision for something and I'm as excited it was like the first show or movie ever this is amazing though
48:55Steph McMahon:also I know this about you and it just and I don't know if that also So, you know, growing up with like really incredible perspective of how lucky and grateful I am to sort of do this job and have this opportunity to do something I dreamt of doing. Like I don't. That you worked your ass off for. I worked my ass off for sure. But like I don't take it for granted, right? Right. It's. Perspective. so fun and it's so rewarding and I get to work with I mean the most talented and creative people to ever make film or tv or wrestling that have ever done it in the world right like at this I mean it's incredible and to do it all over the world and give access to people all this filming tv in all different languages which never happens before it's like none of that is you know is lost on me and so I think you know it's a little bit obviously in the DNA and I just appreciate kind of what that the connection that people have right from sure this is why when we started talking about WWE like I I love the joy that it brings people right and I love the storytelling and and you all care so much about the fans the audience right I care a lot about the fans the audience And for sure, the creators and filmmakers were sort of on my end, but that's because they're trying to tell a story that connects with all these people.
50:27And that's what WWE does incredibly well. So in some ways, it was a no-brainer, you know, when we first talked about it, because it's this shared goal and dream of, you know, reaching the audience, you know, in this – in the way that you all have done for so long. and that we strive to do.
50:53Steph McMahon:When you were just getting started with live. You had only done a couple of live events at that point. So that was a big jump for you as well. Yes, yeah. And live events, I believe, is another big place where Netflix is investing in general. Yeah, it's so great. And that's what's been fun also at Netflix. It really is the, okay, what can we surprise the audience with? What's the next thing to do? You know, we're doing film and TV and, you know, unscripted and docs and animation all around the world. But, okay, we know sort of live events, bringing this conversation and moment together, you know, for people is important.
51:32And, you know, and having, you know, Raw every Monday and sort of bringing that together. But also the live events of, you know, starting with, we have, you know, we had Chris Rock do a live stand up. But then, you know, doing the Tom Brady roast.
51:46Steph McMahon:Which was. Ty. Phenomenal. Bonnie, Tyson, Paul. Yep. You know, and what that did, but then also like Canelo Crawford and Paul Joshua, and that was doing boxing, not pay-per-view, right? Boxing. In that way, globally, access to the whole audience. And, you know, when recently we just, which was really fun, and we just did Alex Honnold. Yes. Climed typing. Yes. That I won. With Seth Rollins doing commentary. Yes. Yeah. Seth was amazing. And I saw Seth and I was like, you did so well. You were so great. It was so great to have him. It was smart to have commentators because it's a long climb. Yes.
52:25Steph McMahon:Right? And it was great to have them there. But such a huge risk too. At the building. Like how did you think about. You know, it was. The only potential downside. Yes. Yes. Trust me. The downside. I was like, oh God. Okay. On live TV. Alex was so thoughtful and prepared and confident with his whole team. And they're like, look, we are monitoring everything, weather, everything. And he said, my dream is to do this. And we're usually in the business of trying to make dreams come true. So kind of felt in that category. And he was incredibly confident that he could do it. and his wife was very much like, he can do this.
53:12And I was like, okay, well, if your wife is there, I'm going to be really confident. But you know what? The team was great and obviously we were very, safety was really the first thing as far as like the day was supposed to happen. It's too windy.
53:24Steph McMahon:Right. And it was like, yeah, can't do it. There's no heroics over like this is the date and we promoted it. It was just like, nope. Yeah. And it was like, okay, we think we're going the next day at this time. But they said, look, it's going to be a game time decision because it was too windy. right we're not gonna do it even though i thought when he went up there it looked so windy right and they were like no they were measuring at every thing to make sure yeah because it was raining to rain the different like you can't go like you just can't do the rain so he just really again i felt like he had very talented person done the work he was so prepared he just was like i I know how to.
54:02Steph McMahon:But a risk, right? A risk. So how do you, what do you think is, well, and one other question I haven't asked you about is how does being Miss India, America and Miss India universe like play into your whole story? Oh, that was so long ago. Somebody told me, they go, don't tell everybody how long ago it was. It was a long time ago. You can tell it was a long time ago. No, you are gorgeous. You're so nice. Yes, you are. You know, look, I think it was a really – looking back, which I didn't realize until much later, it was a really powerful part of sort of who I became in my story. Because when I did Miss India, it was interesting because I didn't want to be an actress or a model.
54:52A lot of people kind of wanted to do that.
54:53Steph McMahon:Well, you knew that then. Oh, I didn't want to do that. But I knew I wanted – like I had sort of – I was always like at the shows like, oh, people are running cable. who's filming what let me be with the camera guys I was always more interested in how the thing was made but it was a very interesting thing for me because I really feel like it was the time that I really became Indian on my own terms I wasn't the Indian girl of my parents I wasn't the this is my culture because I am that I really sort of found the power of my identity which was complicated in the U.S. I wasn't American enough and I wasn't Indian enough right I wasn't Indian enough for Indians in India and I wasn't American enough for Americans so you're kind of you know between the middle between and that really that time of meeting these amazing Indian women around the world and doing the pageant that was very steeped in you know or you know my culture and really just owning my own Indian is so much in there was really and it was during kind of that era that I was like, oh, if I combine the Indian part and the culture, the community, there's so much I love about it, right?
56:03The group, all of that, and this kind of American go after what you want, individuality, swagger, all the rest that comes with that. If I can actually combine them both, I don't have to pick. And I think for many years, it was like, are you this or that? And that was kind of during that time that I could like go on stage or after I won, right, I would have to show up in every country and speak on stage and like having that. So that definitely builds a base. So there's a lot of experience. You know, I got through that. But I think personally it was really the time where the superpower of being the Indian part and the American part like coming together was interesting.
56:45So I didn't have to do that work later on or in the workplace. When I know other people have, like, had to do that work later, I felt like by the time I started working, I had, like, really owned this and was very comfortable with this identity. And I didn't feel like I had to be somebody else in the workplace or put on a different thing. And I know a lot of people from different groups feel that. And so I think that was, like, a lot of work done. And then on the practical level, when I walked into an interview, I had done so many. Great. I'd gone around the world. Mediatry. I was mediatry. I'd done so many things.
57:23So I didn't even know that at that point. Sure. Obviously, I'd had all this experience, so I could, like, have an interview and a conversation, and I could show up. Well, I think. I mean, I still didn't know really anything about the business at that point, but I think at least I had enough, like, practical, real-world, go out in public, talk to strangers.
57:44Steph McMahon:Right. Which is so important. And telling your story. Of the shop. Telling the story. And how to, because that's, you're almost creating content in a way, right? When you're doing that. Because you are, you're out there performing. And you did have to do a dance. I did. I did an Indian dance. And we have the footage. I don't even know where that footage is. I was like, where is that footage? Yes, exactly. I did an Indian dance. I did an Indian dance because everybody was a little bit like, that's what you just have to do. Right. To be clear, just as everyone knows, there was no bathing suit. Okay.
58:22Part of that. Okay. Because. So for anybody who's looking.
58:25Steph McMahon:The Indian culture thing. Okay. That's just not, that's just not the vibe. But it really turned out to be an incredible experience. And it's tricky with all the stigma of what a pageant means or could represent and all that. But for me in the community and what it taught me and really had me sort of embrace fully who I was at 20. Such a gift. Yeah. You know, was amazing. That's amazing. And do you think when you were fired? You dug deep in the vault. A little bit. A little bit. The pageant is not easily accessible. Neither is the footage. Yeah. Apparently. Apparently. But do you think when you did get fired and you said you were, you know, trying to figure out your identity as you had now become your dream job and the president and running the studio, did you fall back at all on that, on who you found yourself to be in those pageants?
59:30Steph McMahon:Like understanding who you are as a person is such a gift, I think. And especially someone who struggled early with, you know, which side am I on? And, oh, I actually don't have to pick a side. I can just be me. I think I really anchored back on this foundation of a really strong sense of community and family and all those aunts and uncles and grandparents that raised me and my parents. Like I had this really, this really strong sense of really this, well, it was interesting because I had this Indian community and my family and that foundation and strong foundation of like my kids and my husband, but this larger Indian community that when you can kind of really feel loved and taken care of and have that kind of real center like it just right back to the core to get back to the center which I did some work on like oh let's just take out all the don't listen to the noise and get back right for the center which again I think allowed me to go okay what do I want to do next and not listen to any of the noise I think that was really helpful and I really did have this strong community in Hollywood and these friends and colleagues that really kind of stayed with.
1:01:02I mean, even Richard White's from your shop. Like, there's not a week he did not call me.
1:01:09Steph McMahon:Really? Incredible. I was going to ask you, is there someone, you know, that stands out to you that just you know I had so many I had some like a great group of people during and and look and the ones that surprise you which are so lovely of like oh you just called and checked in like it was just like no you we did that deal and you were so fair or you always responded or you championed my show and other people went and I haven't forgot that and I'm whatever I can do you know I mean you had those things which is so lovely because part of it is like oh I feel like I really did genuinely care and do the work and does it matter?
1:01:50And I care how people feel, right? How did I make you feel? So hopefully you worked with us. And that was so lovely. But I do remember, and Richard and I were friendly for sure. We had a friendship. But really that he didn't miss a week of calling was really, like, lovely.
1:02:05Steph McMahon:Showing up when it really matters. And showing up when you don't have the job where you can buy. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. He wasn't going to get anything out of that. Yeah, there's definitely parts of that you have to understand. And I understand in these jobs when you're in the chair and the chair has the power. That's right. That's just a reality of how these things go. And then there's the friendships, relationships, people who you actually have built something with. And I don't expect that from everybody. That shouldn't actually be what this is. But, yeah, it was pretty – I learned a lot from it.
1:02:41Steph McMahon:well I have to say Maya Angelou has this beautiful quote and I say it all the time and people who listen to the pod all the time probably ad nauseum but it's people will never remember what you said they'll never remember what you did but they'll always remember how you made them feel and you are making all of us feel something all over the world with the content that you're creating with all of the people that you're reaching. You're responsible for what, 18 to$20 billion worth of content. I mean, that's insane. That is just remarkable. You've shared with all of us and you've made us feel so inspired as well.
1:03:26Steph McMahon:And just congratulations on your journey. I'm so proud WWE has partnered with Netflix. Thank you. And I look forward to all the amazing things that we're going to continue to do together, but just wishing you every success. You're a beautiful person. And really, congratulations. Thank you. Well, I appreciate it. You've done incredible things there, and I've admired your career for a long time. And what, you know, the WWE partnership has been incredible. And I think what you all have created there too, which I see when we work with your talent, who come to when Seth comes to our events or John Cena is in a movie with like they really have this like connection unity yeah connection they care so much they're so positive and they this work ethic and they have this real joy that they bring to to fans on so what I love is they're so good at that so when they come to our events they just are like we want to make everybody You're all so good at this.
1:04:31But really the partnership, again, just wanting to continue with this, having the storytelling that touches people and then surprises them and takes them on a journey is, you know, you do it, you all do it so incredibly well. So I think it has been such a, it's such a great partnership. And I'm excited for like more things, you know, Stranger Things was this year, but there's more things to do. There's so many things.
1:04:57Steph McMahon:to do together especially internationally too yeah so many things and so many of our talent are native to you know other countries as well and as you're building there's just so much opportunity yeah thank you no thank you
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