Raw Recap - CM Punk turns Bron Breakker UPSIDE DOWN to retain World Title: Raw Recap, Jan. 5, 2026

6 Jan 2026 · 57 min · 20 chapters

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Raw Recap - CM Punk Turns Bron Breakker UPSIDE DOWN to Retain World Title: Raw Recap, Jan. 5, 2026

Episode Overview In this episode, hosts Sam Roberts and Megan Morant recap an eventful Raw featuring three title matches, including a thrilling main event where CM Punk retains the World Heavyweight Championship against Bron Breakker. The show is themed around Netflix's *Stranger Things*, which adds a unique aesthetic to the event.

Key Highlights

Main Event Recap

  • CM Punk vs. Bron Breakker:
  • CM Punk retains the title in a match that keeps viewers on edge until the very end.
  • Punk's boot is notably torn from his ankle during the match, a unique moment in wrestling history.
  • The match includes well-timed counters, particularly Punk's knee lift to stop Breakker's spear.

Implications for Bron Breakker

  • Future of Bron Breakker:
  • Losing this match raises questions about Breakker's path forward.
  • Breakker had previously declared himself the future of wrestling, which makes this loss particularly impactful.
  • The hosts discuss how this defeat may affect Breakker's confidence and future opportunities.

Title Changes

  • Women’s Intercontinental Title:
  • Maxxine Dupri loses her title to Becky Lynch in a controversial match where Lynch uses the ropes for leverage.
  • Discussion on how the loss impacts Maxxine's confidence and position in the division.
  • Women’s Tag Team Championship:
  • Rhea Ripley and IYO SKY defeat The Kabuki Warriors.
  • The hosts praise both Ripley and SKY for their performance and chemistry as a tag team.

Thematic Elements

  • Stranger Things Influence:
  • The hosts highlight the aesthetic touches and chapter markers in Raw that echo the *Stranger Things* theme.
  • They emphasize how the crossover adds to the overall entertainment value of the episode.

Discussions on Competitors

  • CM Punk's Longevity:
  • Punk is portrayed as a resilient champion who refuses to back down, emphasizing that he is not just coasting on his past reputation.
  • Other Competitors:
  • The hosts speculate on the dynamics within the "vision" (a group of wrestlers) after Breakker's loss.
  • They discuss potential contenders like Austin Theory and Logan Paul, emphasizing the competitive nature of the roster.

Notable Commentary

  • Sam Roberts and Megan Morant engage in witty banter, sharing their insights and predictions about the future of wrestling.
  • They delve into the impact of in-ring performances and the changing tides within wrestling narratives, reflecting on how characters and storylines evolve.

Conclusion The episode ends with anticipation for the next events in WWE, including the Royal Rumble and the European tour. The hosts encourage listeners to stay tuned for further updates and analyses.

Key Takeaways

  • CM Punk's ability to retain his title is a testament to his skill and experience.
  • Bron Breakker's future is uncertain after a high-profile loss, prompting reflections on his aspirations and confidence.
  • The match outcomes may shift the narrative dynamics within WWE, particularly regarding title opportunities for other competitors.
  • The thematic integration of *Stranger Things* into the presentation of Raw adds an extra layer of appeal for fans and viewers.

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Chapters

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Title Matches and Aesthetics

0:45 to 3:00

Analysis of the three title matches and the atmosphere of the show.

“I was planning on it, but I was banned from the Barclays Center.”

CM Punk's Triumph Over Braun Breakker

3:00 to 6:00

Discussion about CM Punk's unexpected victory and performance against Braun Breakker.

“Braun Breaker declared this the present.”

Impact on Braun Breakker's Future

6:00 to 9:00

Exploration of Braun Breakker's potential and the implications of his loss.

“of this guy, Braun Breaker, the guy who does not come from the world that Braun Breaker comes from, he's the one that won.”

The Vision and Team Dynamics

9:00 to 12:00

Discussion on the dynamics within the 'vision' group and Braun Breakker's role.

“he's able to just know just the right thing that you didn't see coming.”

Logan Paul and Future Title Opportunities

12:00 to 14:03

Contemplating Logan Paul's aspirations for a heavyweight title shot amid current dynamics.

“They're going to put somebody in the position to get a championship match.”

Examining Braun Breakker's Performance

14:03 to 16:49

Analyze Braun Breakker's recent match and its implications.

“Let's make sure that we take a look at what you're doing.”

The Path to Regaining Momentum

16:50 to 17:58

Discuss strategies for Braun Breakker to regain momentum post-loss.

Raw Recap and Personal Reflections

19:32 to 21:57

Reflect on the events of Raw and personal attendance issues.

“Because I'm one of the coolest people you've ever met.”

Becky Lynch's Title Victory Analysis

21:58 to 24:48

Analyze Becky Lynch's recent victory and the context surrounding it.

“But when Becky wins it twice, you go, two-time.”

Maxine Dupree's Title Loss and Future

24:49 to 28:02

Discuss Maxine Dupree's title loss and its impact on her career.

“I wonder where she got that nickname from.”
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Maxine Dupree's Title Loss and Its Impact

28:02 to 31:04

Explore the psychological effects of losing a championship title on a wrestler's confidence.

“So, like, does Maxine now have to go back to the drawing board completely?”

Becky Lynch's Title Win and Its Aftermath

31:04 to 33:19

Discussion on Becky Lynch's championship win and her interactions with the media and city officials.

“And for Maxine and Braun Breitger, the answer was no.”

Rhea Ripley and Eoskai's Championship Victory

35:46 to 38:46

Recap of Rhea Ripley and Eoskai winning the women's tag team titles and their teamwork.

“So I'm very, very excited about all that.”

The Evolution of Women's Tag Team Wrestling

38:46 to 42:00

Analyze how the women's tag team division has evolved and the dynamics between top wrestlers.

“And I am thinking you could make a real argument.”

Analysis of Women's Tag Team Division

42:00 to 43:20

Explore the competitive dynamics of the women's tag team division in WWE.

“yeah, it's really cool that this tag team is here, but what tag team could ever beat this team?”

Javon Evans Joins Monday Night Raw

44:45 to 46:55

A discussion on Javon Evans' debut on Raw and his potential impact.

“do want to mention quickly, this video made it onto social.”

AJ Styles vs. Gunther Feud Breakdown

46:55 to 52:32

Analysis of the ongoing rivalry between AJ Styles and Gunther.

“We're about to get into the college years.”

Implications of Gunther's Actions

52:32 to 56:00

Discussion on how Gunther's recent actions affect his character and future matches.

“Well, it's going to be very interesting to see, too, what the reaction that Gunther gets in Germany.”

Emotions and Expectations in Wrestling

56:01 to 56:20

Explore how emotions shape fans' expectations in professional wrestling.

Reflection on Monday Night Raw

56:21 to 56:46

A discussion on the impactful moments from this week's Raw and upcoming events.

“Monday Night Raw tonight Yeah what a start to the new year A big start to the new year I think that now we're on the road.”
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0:28Three title matches, two title changes. themed episode of Raw. I was very entertained by all the, I thought they did a great job with all the aesthetics. I was hoping that maybe tonight we could broadcast from the squawk. Yeah, I thought you were going to have this whole place decked out like a van. I was planning on it, but I was banned from the Barclays Center. Yeah, we've got to talk about that. Yeah, we will. We'll talk about that too. We will talk about that for sure. I loved all the chapter markers, you know, that were throughout the show. Each show having a different chapter, just like Stranger Things.

1:00It was so fun. So fun. But we end up the night after seeing two title changes, which we'll get to both of them, with the one that I think, especially towards the end of the match, nobody knew quite where it was going to land. And somehow, someway, CM Punk not only survives, but leaves still the world heavyweight champion. Down a boot. Down a boot. Well, he still had the boot. The boot. You sounded like Jackie Redman for a second there. The boot. A boot.

1:37But CM Punk, yes. The boot literally torn from his ankle. Nuts. Like, hang. I don't even know how it was still attached. It was like trailing off behind him. I've never seen anything like that in all the years of watching wrestling. I've never seen a champion leave a match having won the match with his boot trailing behind him via his ankle. But I guess that's what happens when you defend against Braun Breaker. CM Punk, still the champion, after Braun goes for the spear, catches the knee. CM Punk obviously watching tapes on tapes on tapes of spears because they were all very well scouted. Yes.

2:14He scouted one on the outside of the ring earlier in the match where he jumped up and hit him with that flying chest-out clothesline that Punk does when Braun was going for the spear. Then he hits him with the go-to-sleep. It was like the third or the fourth one in the match. And CM Punk is able to win. Megan, what does this do to Braun Breaker? I think that there was so much riding on this. And the thing about deciding when it's time to realize your potential is that it is a risk. the idea of being the future of WrestleMania, the future main eventer, the future, all of this. At some point, the future has to be the present.

3:02Braun Breaker declared this the present. Last week, we were talking about it. It was a great promo. But regardless of whether Braun Breaker was on a football field instead of wrestling on the indies, CM Punk's the one that won this match. When Braun Breaker had a shot at the biggest title on Raw, he lost. What does this do to Braun Breaker? I mean, it's got to make Braun Breaker angry, hungry. I do think on the big stage, Braun did, while he didn't win, he did. I mean, the spot through, I mean, when he went through the table, right? He's standing on the top. Unbelievable. And there's a moment there where I say, oh my gosh, is he going to make it?

3:52Right? And the fact that Braun Breaker hasn't been doing this that long, and he's in this unbelievable match with CM Punk, but it's not just about being there. When you come out and declare yourself as the future of the business and say that the future is now, and you don't win the World Heavyweight Championship, when you walk backstage, that's tough. Let's go back to the football field. Let's go back to the athlete the Braum Breaker is. 24 hours ago. I hate to bring it up for fans that may still be reeling. The Baltimore Ravens had one of the best games they've had all season, right? But they didn't win.

4:30And what's the headline? Not only did they not win, it was embarrassing. And they're not going to the playoffs. And that's it. That's the whole headline. Is that they missed a kick at the end of the game that was blessed. By the way, the end zone was blessed. That's a whole different story. But they missed a kick, one kick that they missed at the end of a great game. Cost them the season. And that's the headline. That's the news that gets reported. It is very difficult for Brom Breaker to show up to Dusseldorf next week. Yeah. And say, hey, I'm the future world heavyweight champion. Because we watched him get his shot.

5:13And we watched him be maybe the best challenger that Punk has had throughout this reign. One of the great, somebody I would say that Braun Breaker gave CM Punk a better run for his money than just about anybody. Yeah, I'd agree with you. But Braun Breaker cannot show up to Monday Night Raw and go, hey, you guys watch out because the minute I get my shot, I'm taking everything. I'm the future. I'm going to be world heavyweight champion. because we watched him not be able to get the job done. And the only reason he didn't get the job done is because there was one moment, one spear that was scouted just right and then a final go to sleep.

5:58And CM Punk, the guy who is standing in the way of this guy, Braun Breaker, the guy who does not come from the world that Braun Breaker comes from, he's the one that won. he's the one that is the world heavyweight champion. It's not like Braun Breaker can show up and go like, okay, well, I'd like another world heavyweight title match. And by the way, the vision was there to give Braun Breaker a little bit of an assist. Well, yeah, but CM Punk apparently is best friends with every luchador. Good for CM Punk. Look, I'd be best friends with them too because the luchadors were right there. I felt like that was even Stevens.

6:35You know, you're right. The vision was there to help out Braun Breaker, but CM Punk had backup too. But Braun Breaker not capitalizing tonight and not becoming the world heavyweight champion certainly impacts the entire vision. In the sense that it's like, right, because Braun Breaker is, I would argue, the team captain. Yeah. Vision team captain. So it's, again, it's not like, it's not like, I mean, does Austin Theory step forward now? Does Logan Paul step forward now? I mean, I kind of feel like if Braun Breaker couldn't get it done, and maybe he just couldn't get it done tonight. But I kind of feel like if Braun Breaker couldn't get it done, then it's like, okay, when does the vision actually become the vision?

7:17And I think you could see it all over Braun Breaker's face. And he knew it too. And you saw him and it was this amazing moment. That moment in the match when he was realizing, all I have to do is hit this spear. Spear, one, two, three. Spear, one, two, three. He smelled it. He sensed it. And you could feel as he was getting ready for that spear, going, please turn around, because I'm not just looking forward to this spear. If I can hit this spear, then I get to call myself the world heavyweight champion. Rick Steiner was amazing as a pro wrestler. He was never WWE world heavyweight champion. His uncle, Scott Steiner, amazing as a WWE wrestler, never world heavyweight champion.

8:08And Braun Breaker was about to bring it home to the family. And in just one instant, he was not able to bring it home to the family. All the while, CM Punk, not by mistake, is wearing U of M colors on his trunks. Everybody's making a big deal about this varsity jacket that he showed up in. You think CM Punk was wearing Michigan colors by mistake? No. No, he's a student of the game. He ate a Steiner liner in there. he knows who he's dealing with and he knew who he was dealing with and the whole i mean it was really a pretty remarkable match because the whole first 80 maybe of the match it was just brawn breaker with an answer to everything that cm punk had but that's punk right punk is about those moments where it's just when you got this guy counted out just when you think you got him licked he's able to just know just the right thing that you didn't see coming.

9:06He's just a scrappy enough fighter that he's got that one little thing in him and sometimes it's just a matter of lifting up that knee at just the right time because I bet there's nobody else on that roster that would have picked up that knee at that exact time. I don't think there's anybody else on that roster that wouldn't have eaten that spear. And if Punk had eaten that spear instead of gotten that knee up, Punk would not be the world heavyweight champion. That was bronze match. You know what I kept thinking of the entire time I was watching this match unfold and watching Punk come up with the response.

9:36I kept thinking about last week when he said, I'm not ready to give this up. Right. And that's exactly the energy he took in the ring. You felt it with every kick out, with every response that he had to Braun Breaker, that he wasn't ready to give up the world heavyweight title. And that he's still CM Punk and that he's not taking it for granted. And he can still go. I mean, obviously. Yes. But that's what I mean, that he's not taking it for granted. He's not going based on reputation or coasting on that or playing the hits or whatever it is. It's not I was the best in the world. I still am the best in the world.

10:11Actively. And I want to be an active, defending world heavyweight champion. And on an episode of Monday Night Raw, where you have sold an incredible amount of tickets in the Barclays Center, where you've got all of Netflix watching because the Stranger Things are all over the place, where the whole world is, this title match that has been promoted for a month now. You don't want to be the guy, if you're Punk, who's there to usher in the new guard. Punk's not ready to take on that role just yet. And in order to not take on that role, he had to fight and he fought. So, I mean, listen, I almost feel like if I'm Braun Breaker, I've got to bide my time now and just, you know, because there's not like you can sit there and claim anything was unjustified.

11:01And you're right. In terms of the highlight reel, ah, the stuff that Braun Breaker did in this match. Braun Breaker coming off of that top rope. You heard me, we were watching together. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because it's like this could go wrong in so many different ways. Yeah. But Braun coming off the top rope and hitting that clothesline all the way onto that commentator's table. It's a long way to go. Incredible. That's the one that I think ripped his boot. cf punks his boot but i mean for me i'm going like look and i don't know this is just what pops into my head i'm looking at the calendar and i'm going hey let me not make any bold statements let me not act like i was cheated because i wasn't cheated i had distractions from paul heyman i wasn't cheated i lost that match that one match i lost if i'm braun breaker i go okay don't worry about beating punk right now i gotta go beat 29 guys in the royal rumble how do it could because in my mind like i said like there's no justification for a braun breaker to go to an adam pierce and go like okay well now i'd like another title match theoretically they're one and one braun breaker pin punk in the war games yes punk pin braun breaker tonight theoretically that's one and one but i think that this was a definitive win for punk it felt that way and i think if you're a matchmaker i think if you're punk i think if you're any of those people you're looking at okay well who's next in line and it's not braun breaker he had his turn if braun breaker wants another turn and wants to be undeniable i think you got to look ahead at matches like the Royal Rumble.

12:43They're going to put somebody in the position to get a championship match. I'm curious about the dynamic within the vision because last week you and I sat here and we talked about how the vision, a group of people who aren't typically described as team players, have become team players within the vision. Now, Braun Breaker, team captain, if you will, of the vision. I will. He doesn't get the job done with the World Heavyweight Championship. Are we seeing such a cohesive unit within the vision? Are we seeing everybody acting as a team player when the leader couldn't get the job done? I don't think you learned anything from Austin Theory last week.

13:23He'd be furious if you brought that up. Someone's got to point it out, right? You're not wrong. But I would say the only thing is, if I'm playing devil's advocate here, because you're right, that could be something, right? Where they're going, wait a minute. You were the guy that was supposed to get this done. You didn't get it done. I would turn around and go like, Like, okay, but guess what? You guys are the ones that got chased off by Rey Mysterio, Dragon Lee, and Penta. I watched Bronson Reed get knocked down by the three luchadors. I watched Logan Paul and Austin Theory. I watched them all get chased out.

13:57So it's like, ultimately, you got to go back to the full planning of the vision and realize that this didn't work on any level. This plan didn't work. if those three guys that you're saying might be looking at Braun Breaker and saying you didn't get the job done if I'm Braun Breaker I'm going to turn around and say well you guys didn't either you guys ran away what happened to you guys and do you really want to sit there if you're say Logan Paul and Austin Theory do you really want to sit there and say well you didn't get the job done it's like okay well apparently you got some beef with Rey Mysterio and Penta so before you go throwing stones in this house made of, you know, the thinnest glass that you've ever seen.

14:42Let's make sure that we take a look at what you're doing. Well, we know that Logan Paul would love a world heavyweight title opportunity. Of course, Logan Paul would love a world heavyweight title opportunity. So? He's got other business. Based on what? What has Logan Paul done? I agree with you. Nothing right now. Except run his mouth. Yes. You can't scam your way into a world heavyweight title opportunity. Well, Logan Paul has scammed his way into, a lot of things. I mean, sure, sure. But I don't see it happening. I mean, I just don't see the justification yet. Now look, if Austin Theory and Logan Paul were to get victories over Penta and Rey Mysterio, now you're talking about big victories.

15:21Now you're talking about stuff that could lead you to this other place. But this idea that CM Punk has to go on this gauntlet mission against everybody in the vision. No, I don't think that. No, I don't think that. I just wonder about within the vision. who's in the let me let me ask you this there's four guys in the vision right not counting paul hayman one of them pinned roman reigns that's right what if that's the guy that wants to step up you know i mean you're not wrong about this stuff i just think that like especially now in the space that we're in as competitive as everything is these title matches have to be earned yeah and i'm sure there are people outside of the vision they're like hey what about me what about something over here you know what i'm saying so yeah i'm very interested to see i'm interested to see what the dynamic of the vision is after this to your point like do they have to retool do they have to get on the same page again and i'm very interested to see what the story of cm punk as the world heavyweight champion is going forward because Braun Breaker has been this cloud that's been looming over the head of CM Punk.

16:33Now, look, I think the last month of everything that we've seen between Braun Breaker and CM Punk, I think Braun Breaker's stock has raised significantly. Yes, even before tonight and then after tonight, what he did in the match, I think his stock rose. Significantly. Yes. And I don't think it dips all the way back down to the beginning because he lost i just don't think i think momentum it's a real thing you know what i mean and we might have a little a little jerk stop in the momentum and what you've got to do now is figure out how to regain that momentum figure out how to make the audience believe that what happened at raw at the barclays center at netflix one year anniversary at stranger things raw what happened there make me believe that that was the outlier make me believe that that was the fluke and that the next time you're gonna get it because like it was a great match and it felt like it came to a result that was deserved by the end of it so how are you gonna make me believe make me believe that that was a fluke braun breaker wins the royal rumble that's one way to do it and comes after CM Punk and by the way if or whoever the world heavyweight champion is by then I mean if you're not losing to Braun Breaker in that match I don't think CM Punk's losing that title I don't think so either but listen no pun intended stranger things have happened you definitely intended that pun because you thought about it for a second and then you're like I'm gonna say it but I'll say no pun intended so people don't think I'm a cheese ball well I think a lot could happen before we get to the Royal Rumble a lot could happen before we get to Wrestlemania but I hope But it's not pun.

18:21How does, how does Brom Breaker get back? Now you got all in my head. CM Punk. No, now how does Brom Breaker get back to that momentum? He wins the Royal Rumble. Possible. And comes after the world heavyweight champion. Easier said than done. You're telling me. We're talking about stranger things. That's why Megan was dropping her puns that she's been working on all night. She was writing down all these puns. That's right. All night. She got her first one off. You're going to have to listen to the whole show. She's got half a dozen. ready to go in the chamber. But Raw went Stranger Things in the crossover.

18:55Well, it doesn't stop on Monday Night Raw. WWE has teamed up with Stranger Things for an exclusive new t-shirt collab. Yeah, look at these things. Available now at WWE Shop and Fanatics. You can rep your favorites like John Cena, CM Punk, Roman Reigns, and more with this new collection. Look at that. That's an Undertaker logo mixed up in the upside down. Check them all out right now at WWE Shop and Fanatics. The WWE Stranger Things collab. Two great tastes that taste even better together. Unbelievable. You're the first person I've ever met that says collab. I always say collab. No, collab. Collab.

19:37Because I'm one of the coolest people you've ever met. Collaboration. So you say collaboration. Collaboration. Actually, the word is based on collaboration. I think that's how it's pronounced. That's what you come across right now. I do not. Yes, you do. I don't sound like that at all. Everybody at Northwestern sounds like that. I'm not nearly that nasally. It's a little nasally, to tell you the truth. But, okay. Let's talk about it. You want to talk about it. We'll talk about it. Another title match. Let's talk about the Intercontinental title match. Well, before we get there, can we talk about a bigger issue?

20:11I've actually had a lot of conversations about this today with everybody behind the glass there. Raw tonight. Even Casey? Even KC. I mean, Gavin is so mad about it. He just didn't show up to work today. He's mad at who? You? You. Me? You. Raw tonight is in Brooklyn. We, Stanford, Connecticut, just a stone's throw away. We should have been there tonight for Raw. But unfortunately, everybody's trying to work out these details. And Becky's lawyers called and they said Raw recap show cannot attend because of you. I'm too associated with the show. That's right. So we couldn't go. So we had to go here.

20:52And I've been talking to all the guys about how I think you're holding me back in my career. That's what you've been saying to them. And they agree. They think I'm holding you back. Yes, they all do. I'm not holding you back. It's unreasonable, by the way. And I do think. I could have been at Stranger Things Raw. No, I wish you'd gone. I do too. I couldn't. Because of me. That's right. That's the power that I have. Just because I'm the one who does the cold opens. Yeah. I did see that. I said, I couldn't believe this. When I saw. I was welcome. I know. I saw it in the tweet. Becky Lynch tweets out that I can't go to the Barclays Center.

21:31No. And I go, well, this is ridiculous. And I call up the crew. I go, what time are we going to Brooklyn? They go, no, no, no. Get back in the Stanford basement, Sam. That's where we're doing the show from. The word has come down. I go, who said this? They go, we're not going to say. I go, I hope it wasn't. They go, we're not going to say. but I mean you're not wrong we're not in Brooklyn and there was a tweet that went out that said under no false pretenses am I allowed in Brooklyn and now I'm not in Brooklyn but but for you to blame me for that instead of an unreasonable two-time intercontinental champion what what is with the tone and two times it's a historic moment I know another two-time intercontinental champion that you came in dancing and said, oh, a two-time intercontinental champion, Dominic Mysterio.

22:23But when Becky wins it twice, you go, two-time. Dominic Mysterio didn't ban me from an arena. Yet. Why would Dominic Mysterio ban me? I don't know. When he gets word about how you're stifling others' careers, maybe you want to keep an arm's length distance away from you, Scam Roberts. Stop calling me that. All I do is try to give people opportunities. Okay, that's it. And then all of a sudden, somehow I become the villain. It's ridiculous. We are in Stanford. We are. There are a lot of context clues here. I don't know how it happened. I don't make those decisions. They're above my pay grade. But I'm so sorry that you had to go to WWE HQ instead of the amazing Barclays Center in the Upside Down.

23:08I could have had boots on the ground to witness history. And I wish one of them had ripped off your ankle. female wrestler of all time become a two-time women's intercontinental champion. No one's ever done that before. I thought you were talking about Liv Morgan. She's never been women's intercontinental champion. That's why I was confused for a moment. Well, Becky Lynch, regardless of tweets, I thought she was not going to win the match because I thought she'd been ignoring it because she'd been tweeting so much, but apparently somehow she's also been, I don't know, doing tape study or whatnot.

23:42not Becky Lynch. And look, I, what can I say? It was, it was a, it was a slick pin. Thank you. It was pretty slick. And I say that because I'm a reasonable person who can call it. Like I see it. Unlike the intercontinental champion. Look, Becky picked up a win tonight. It goes down in the record books as a pinfall victory for Becky Lynch. She did what business called for her to do. You're saying Becky Lynch was standing on business in Brooklyn? That's exactly what Becky Lynch was doing. Wow. And I'm glad that there was no referee corruption. Who was the referee? Danilo? That cheap-ass Danilo. He probably got paid off.

24:29You know what? Honestly, because finally we had no corruption in a match, he should get a raise. Oh, now they got the tweet. They were worried. You know what? They were upset about it. Because why would they have the tweet ready to go? We were all supposed to go to Brooklyn. This is what Becky Lynch wrote. I've asked my lawyers to ensure crooked reporters and so-called, quote, wrestling media be barred from Barclays tomorrow. This was sent yesterday. Awful Ariel Helwani. Scam Roberts. That's right. I wonder where she got that nickname from. I don't know. DeLulu Dave LaGreca. And Pipsqueak Peter Rosenberg.

25:06That one got you. Just calling a grown man a pipsqueak is a totally different deal. You know what I mean? They're not welcome. Oh, wow. This is horrible. This is great. This is the best part. Keep going. Marvelous Megan Morant. I thought she was going to talk about Marvelous Mark Merrow for a second. Marvelous Megan Morant, who, quote, parentheses, who has pledged her loyalty to me as a Becky believer. That's right. is the only news source the WWE universe can trust. Why does she think everybody that talks about wrestling is a journalist? I'm not reporting. It's a podcast. I'm not reporting. I'm not doing this scoops, Roberts.

25:49I'm not here to give you the scoops. I just watch the show and tell you what happened. And usually it's Becky Lynch being an unreasonable human being. Not tonight. Wow. Not tonight. I will say. Oh, you're about to compliment Becky Lynch. Maybe not fully complimented. Certainly not on her social media game, quote unquote. I am concerned that with all this training that Maxine Dupree was doing, I'd love to hear what daddy has to say. Because the idea of putting Becky Lynch in that scenario, Becky Lynch is crafty. You know what I mean? She's a bit of a sneak. She's got a few tricks up her sleeve.

26:32Oh, yeah. She's ready to take advantage of absolutely any scenario. So the idea that Becky Lynch was a and it was a very it was slick, was able to roll back while her ankle was in the ankle lock, realizing I can survive this thing for three seconds. and then she was close enough to the rope to hook the arm on the rope for leverage which somehow Danilo as cheap as he is should buy himself contact lenses or something so he can see what's going on in the ring doesn't see Becky Lynch scooping that rope and gets the one, two, three and Maxine is befuddled by the whole thing that's another one we were talking about Braun Breaker Maxine has been on this trip ever since winning the Intercontinental Championship.

27:18You remember what her vibe was like when we interviewed her when she first won that title in person. You did not want to do the interview, but I insisted at Madison Square Garden. It was a big deal. And I feel like ever since then, she's been all fight. She's been ready for anything. It's been a totally different Maxine than the one that was, you know, kind of like, oh, gee, I don't know. Just happy to be there. Yeah, learning Maxine. It's like, okay, go train. You got the title. You got three victories over Becky. Go train. Go do your thing. Get better. Get better. Get better. When you get hit with a loss like this, where you lose your title, it's on the premiere for Netflix.

27:59And it's in another borough of New York City. Didn't she win the Intercontinental title in Manhattan? She did. Right. So, like, does Maxine now have to go back to the drawing board completely? like does this shake her confidence to the point where it's like oh like I said about brawn breaker it's a momentum stopper does it shake her confidence to the point oh maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was maybe I'm not ready for the matches that I thought I was or does she go no she Becky hooked the rope I'll be able to get her next time you know there is the argument to be made about the fact that Becky did hook the rope but then you take a look at the way that Maxine won the title from Becky.

28:42How's that? AJ Lee interference. Well, she was just in the aisle. Giving Maxine the opportunity to catch the man off guard. Very rare that she's ever off guard. It couldn't be that rare. I mean, AJ Lee didn't even make it to the ringside area. Well, Becky is a very, we all know this about Becky, rule follower. She hooked the rope. Rule following Rebecca is what I believe they call her. She hooked the rope to win the title. you have to do what you have to do stand on business that's against the rules well when she was she's learned since then right because she's always evolving because that's what the greats do is they evolve i've been kind of and so when rule following rebecca was taken advantage of at madison square garden by no manager's license aj lee is that what they're calling her that's it I think Becky has a couple other names for her.

29:36They're not coming to me at the moment, but I'm sure they're all over the internet. So Becky had to take a page out of AJ and Maxine's book. Look, the same way I thought, you know, realistically, Becky Lynch, look at her chest. Look at that Star Trek gear. I mean, she can't believe how happy she is. Like she really accomplished something really great. She did. And look, two-time Intercontinental Champion. I think Maxine should have been ready for Becky to hook the rope. That's how I feel watching that match. All personal feelings aside, Maxine should have been ready. Becky does not have scruples.

30:18She is scrupulous. Well, and the other thing is Becky, we knew how desperate she was to get this title back. Well, she's without morals. Yes. Is that how she lives her life? Yes. Right. Right. She's of a low character. Well, you're going a little far there. She's a low character person. I wouldn't say that. Which is why you have to be ready when you're dealing with somebody that's like soulless. You also have to be ready when you're going up against the greatest female wrestler of all time. I don't know about the soulless and lacking morals and all of that. I don't know about all of that. But I do know you need to be ready when you step in the ring with Becky Lynch.

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30:59and Maxine was not ready for that moment tonight. That was the story of these title matches, right? Are you ready for that moment? And for Maxine and Braun Breitger, the answer was no. That is correct. You go to the tag team championship match and you go to Rhea and Io versus the Kabuki Warriors. And of course, you look at Maxine Dupree. She can't believe it either. she can't believe what's happened but is that disbelief in the idea that Becky hooked the rope and got away with it or is it disbelief that is I in herself I can't believe I didn't see that coming I I think the latter and I also think disbelief and wow I I held this title and it just slipped away from me right yeah I think that's the whole thing who am I who am I like just became the IC champ.

31:53When Maxine, Maxine chasing the intercontinental championship was a completely different individual than Maxine as intercontinental champion. So this was similar to what Jey Uso dealt with when he lost the world heavyweight title. Once I've had that title and it's gone now, do I go back to the Maxine Dupree that was chasing for that title that was just trying to figure out if she even belonged in this, at in this in this you know stratosphere or am i now an evolved maxine who has held the title and can carry that confidence with me even though i lost it i think that's a tough thing and once you get that taste for gold it changes you it does in my opinion there's no going back hopefully for the better but i think that for people who might have at first wondered if it It was a fluke.

32:48And then based, sometimes people base their confidence on the championship. Well, I couldn't have this by mistake. Well, now I've had this for a week. Well, now I've had it for two weeks, three weeks. It's not an accident. Except once it's gone, if you're basing your confidence on that title, does the confidence go away with you? I think that's going to be interesting to see with Maxine Dupree. And if she tries to get it back from Becky Lynch, or like we just said with Braun, because I bet Becky's not going to want to give her a title shot anytime soon. No chance. Becky did you a big solid, though.

33:22Me? Yeah, I saw on the internet, and since it's on the internet, it must be true that after her historic intercontinental championship win, she was on the phone with the mayor of New York, New York City. They wanted to have a parade to celebrate Becky Lynch, close down all of the streets. He's the mayor for five days. he's doing parades well he offered one to becky lynch closed down all of the streets your commute to work tomorrow you would a thousand percent be late because i know you and you're not planning for parades you're not planning for that level of traffic at that hour of the day right but becky has so many media appearances so many interviews to do that she politely declined the parade so she did you a big a big salad from the new mayor mom donnie that's right that doesn't sound like something he would do but okay it was on the internet it has to be true it was yeah she tweeted so when you say it was on the internet you mean her twitter yeah she put it out there that she just got off the phone with the mayor well i'll tell you what you don't believe it no but if you want to bring home a little piece of becky lynch i do i'll bet you she's a part of tops universe WWE.

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35:38You can find Topps Universe WWE on Topps.com and in stores on January 30th. So I'm very, very excited about all that. I would also like to say I'm excited for the new women's tag team champions. Rio, baby. Rio does it. Rhea Ripley and EO Sky are the tag team champions. I think the big question here was, are they going to be, we know they're besties. We know they have an incredible respect for each other. We know how great the two of them are singularly. Can they beat a tag team as cohesive as the Kabuki Warriors, especially with two people as good as Asuka and Kairi Sane? And after a riptide and an over-the-moon salt, they did it.

36:33They beat the Kabukis. Rhea Ripley gets the teamwork of Rhea Ripley and EO sky. And heading into this one, we thought, can they be as cohesive as the Kabuki warriors? They proved that it was the teamwork, the, the effort by both Rhea and EO sky that ultimately led to their victory. You know, and I was talking about this, you know, I was talking, uh, I feel like two weeks ago here on the recap podcast about just like, just like realizing what a, what a massive star that Rhea Ripley really, really, really is. And that aura that she carries with her. And just the, the fact that she is absolutely at the top of her game right now.

37:16And I was talking earlier today about the fact that you and I both got to go to the holiday tour, the WWE live event in Bridgeport, Connecticut over the weekend. Yeah. Great show. And EO sky was there wrestling. And when EO came out, It was just like star radiated off EO. And the people went nuts for her. And everybody was going crazy, pointing at their heads. My kids were pointing at their heads. Everybody was doing it. That was one of my biggest takeaways when I got home. I said, wow, EO is a star. A star. And I knew that going in. But when you sit in the crowd as a fan, it is different. It hits you.

37:53And you experience it different. And you see the reactions around you. And you see all the kids in Bridgeport, Connecticut. it putting their fingers to their head and doing the EO sky. And they also happen to be like the best wrestlers EO sky, who people will have conversations with about where she ranks men or women in ring wrestling in the WWE. It's high on the list. I just had Chelsea green on the radio show today and she's out of nowhere. Just brought up how, when it comes to matches in the ring, Rhea Ripley is one of the best people to watch. She's just so good in the ring. And I'm sitting there, right?

38:32And I'm looking at these two with the women's tag team championship and thinking about how this division, the women's tag team division has grown a lot over the last few months. And I am thinking you could make a real argument. I think that right now, the two best women on the entire roster are the tag team champions. And I think that that is a wild thing to realize. And that only speaks to how much talent is on this roster. Because you've got four singles champions as well. But to me, the reality is, if you're asking my opinion on who are the two best women on the entire roster in the WWE, it's the tag team champions.

39:30It's Eoskai and Rhea Ripley. They are your two top women. And now they're the tag team champions. And it's so crazy because you think about what happened 11 months ago when Eoskai shocked the world and beat Rhea Ripley for the Women's World Championship on the way to WrestleMania. And we watched it together with our jaws on the floor, unable to comprehend what had just happened. And then you think about the match that they had at Evolution that completely stole the show. The one where Naomi ended up cashing in the Money in the Bank briefcase. And when these two got together as a tag team, I'm thinking this is not going to be able to work because Eoskai has been the thorn, the one thorn in Rio Ripley's side.

40:18I remember that because that's the day I pointed out you're a hater. Well, and I think since they became a tag team, myself and a lot of others have questioned. Okay. Everybody at the player haters ball. Everybody at the player haters ball has questioned, how is this going to work? How are these two going to stay together when both want to be on top? And even throughout tonight's match, I was sort of waiting for a moment. Is there going to be a miscommunication? Is there going to be a moment where Io realizes that Kairi and Asuka are her family? Because you're negative. But as the match unfolded, I said, these two, not only are they great, but they are best friends.

41:00They complement each other so well. and they're two of the best wrestlers on the planet no the two best the two best the two best and guess what they are at the top of the game they're the women's tag team champions they're at the top and it's like i'm looking and this would be like when sean michaels and stone cold had the tag championship together but they didn't get along and like so it couldn't ever work. If those two had actually gotten along, this is like the good guy version. There is no tension right now between Riga and EO. This is like the good guy version of the two-man power trip. When Triple H and Stone Cold just decided we're taking it all.

41:44Like Sola Sokola. They just came for everything. And for a hot second there, it was like, whoa. This is what happened. This is the Undertaker and Kane being the Brothers of Destruction. And it gets to a point where it becomes this thing where it's like, yeah, it's really cool that this tag team is here, but what tag team could ever beat this team? And I feel like as Rhea and Io just like blend together and become this team, the reality is, now I don't think that there has ever been a situation where there are more high-level teams in this division because knocking on the door are two other women who are singularly two of the best in the division, Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, that have figured out a way, again, to your point, to somehow find that cohesion, to be that team.

42:41And I think with both Rhea and EO and with Charlotte and Alexa, the teaming up has actually made both better. And then don't forget, you have Nia Jax, who's so experienced and so accomplished in the ring and the upstart Lash legend who is shown in just a short... You talking about the bougie bully? That's who I'm talking about. Who's shown in just a short time how destructive she can be as well. And Bayley and Lyra Valkyria are knocking on that door as long as Lyra keeps smacking Bayley in the face to wake her up. And I know Liv Morgan was in singles action tonight, but she and Roxanne Perez are a force to be reckoned with.

43:20Forget about it. This is a deep division. This is a deep division. But it is so crazy. You bring up Triple H and just there's no tension between Io and Rhea. No. Nope. Who's going to stop them? I don't think anybody right now. I don't think anybody. I don't think any of those teams that we just mentioned are sitting there going like, okay, yeah, that's the roadblock. I don't think so. It's a wild thing. It's a wild thing to consider. I'll tell you I don't think anybody can stop them I don't think anybody can stop You From meeting your favorite athletes this summer How do you like that? How do you like that?

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44:46do want to mention quickly, this video made it onto social. It happened during one of the Netflix breaks, but Adam Pearce made it official tonight. Javon Evans signed his deal. There's a photo of Javon and Triple H in the Stranger Things upside down infused gorilla position, but Javon Evans officially a Raw superstar. Massive, massive news that Javon Evans has not only been called up to the main roster, but just as we saw on SmackDown, Trick Williams, Matt Cardona, all the new faces showing up on SmackDown on Monday Night Raw. We got Javon Evans. And I loved the video that they played before with Javon talking about, I guess you guys are going to see me grow up.

45:37He is, I mean, 20 what? 20 is he 21 maybe like he's it's incredible what he can already do the connection he's already made with the audience and you look at guys right now the fact that like and this is just a wonderful cycle that is professional wrestling that to close out last year we get the retirement of john cena and then to start this year we get javon evans entering the monday night raw roster and this is a guy who i mean realistically you're talking about 25 i know maybe more years that he's going to be able to do this it's unbelievable i can't wait for it and for anybody that hasn't seen javon evans you're in for a treat you probably saw him at saturday night's main event the john cena uh saturday night's main event in december with a tag match with him and leon slater against aj styles and dragon lee but if you haven't man he's gonna be a force on monday night raw yeah And I can't wait to see what Javon does.

46:42It's really exciting, you know, as two fans of NXT to see all of these NXT superstars get their opportunity. I feel like Saved by the Bell and Bayside's graduating. We're about to get into the college years. And that's an underrated show. So that's good news. It's great news. Yeah. So speaking of AJ Styles, do you think he should just retire now? AJ Styles. I mean, when Gunter said, what is little AJ going to do about it? He bent down. He bent down. He got to eye level. But I mean, condescending eye level. He bent down to talk to him. So first, like Gunther comes out. I don't know what Adam Pearce is thinking.

47:23He tells Gunther, if you're going to go out there, be respectful. Oh, okay. Thanks, Adam Pearce. Oh, I'll definitely do that. Thank you, Adam Pearce. You know what? I wasn't being respectful, but it's only because nobody told me to be respectful. Now that I've been told to be respectful. Thanks, Adam Pearce. I hadn't thought of that. Now I'll definitely be respectful. I definitely won't make it worse. Because I love to do what people tell me to do. Yeah, yeah. I want to make sure that everybody's pleased. I'm a people. Gunther is a well-known people pleaser. Yeah, that's what everybody says about Gunther.

47:49People pleaser. This is one flaw. He's too much of a people pleaser. He cares too much. I mean, you talk about anybody that doubts the level of hated that Gunther is, going back to that live event that we went to. Wow. Bridgeport hates him, I'll tell you that. He's booed out of the building. It was nuts. but he gets booed out of the building in Brooklyn as well as he's been booed out of the building and every building that he's been in since he made John Cena tap out like well as he puts it like a little b yeah he had a shirt with it and he got yeah he did have a shirt made the whole thing so he gets asked to be respectful he's not respectful and AJ Styles interrupts and I go okay yeah look I mean just and he smiles Gunther he smiles as he holds the t-shirt up almost like look what I did.

48:35That's how, that's how, that's how, what my, my, when my, when my six-year-old daughter paints a picture, she holds it up and she shows it to me. That's what she looks like. Look what I did, daddy. Look what I did. And that's Gunther showing the fans his t-shirt of making John Cena tap like, uh, ellipses. That's look at what I did. Look at what I did, guys. Why are you booing me? Look what I did. I made, I ruined John Cena for you. You know, this, the match that you guys were all you know i ruined your hero and there's a nice a picture of it taking place too just in case you you wanted to forget now you can't right like what's the context of tap oh is it referring to the photo oh okay okay yeah that's that thing that bummed everybody out to the point that they're still arguing about it on the internet i'm just going to remind you yeah i did that that's my fault yeah aren't you guys happy oh no i am i'm very happy so aj styles uh interrupts him.

49:32But AJ Styles can't get a word out because Gunther is enjoying allowing AJ Styles the space to speak. And as soon as AJ opens his mouth, Gunther interrupts him. I made him tap out like a... Then he stops. Gunther, like a little... And then he goes for it. And then he goes for it again. I passed out just like little Sam just did. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. And he was enjoying it and then he calls him little aj when he bent down and said what are you going to do about it little aj and then did the you can't see me right in aj's face and that's not the first time he's done that in aj's face no aj you talk about respect he has the most amount of respect for john cena and his career and match of the year with john cena last year that's the thing everybody's like like we're looking at two guys who had john cena matches in john cena's retirement run one did it the right way in a way that win or lose it's not about the result it's about what the match was every wrestling fan came out of john cena versus aj styles and they went like this i love this we're all better this is why i love wrestling this is why I love this thing.

50:51I got to show it to everybody. And everything came out of Gunther versus John Cena going, why do I watch this? It hurts me. All it does is cause me pain. Why do I keep watching this? And Gunther's like, I did that. That was me. I did that. I made you feel that way. Is that great? Oh, you don't like it? I did. I thought it was great. I'm going to keep reminding you of it. Yeah. This is great. And so they couldn't be more polar opposite. So he bends down. He calls him a little AJ. But then AJ Styles smacks Gunther right across the face. And I'm thinking to myself, wow, AJ has some balls. Yeah, dude.

51:27And it's the first time, by the way, that Gunther's finally stopped smiling. Gunther got mad. That guy has been smiling ever since the evening of December 13th. About 10, 15 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. On the 13th of December, a smile was plastered on Gunther's face, and it was not removed until, I don't know, about 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on January the 5th. That's how long that smile was on his face. But AJ Styles smacked it right off his face. It's not something, and I don't know, maybe Gunther thought that after he did what he did to John Cena, he was going to be able to say whatever he wanted, and nobody was going to touch him, nobody was going to mess with him.

52:14But AJ Styles smacked him hard right across the face and said, what are you going to do? Exactly. Nothing. Just like he had stood up to a bully. And so what does Gunther do? He goes right backstage and tells Adam Pearce, I want a match and I want it next week. It's going to be very interesting. I don't even want to think about it. Well, it's going to be very interesting to see, too, what the reaction that Gunther gets in Germany. I know. Like I mean John Cena is beloved worldwide So was AJ Styles Not like John Cena No not like John Cena Nobody is like John But that's my point That will Germany who has historically loved Gunther Will they cheer for Gunther?

53:02Will they be the one crowd that will cheer Gunther? Or will they also boo Gunther? Because of what Gunther did to John Cena and how he's behaved since what Gunther did to John Cena. I don't know. I think what he did to John Cena puts him in a whole different category. It does. It 100 % does. I don't even want to think about this AJ Styles match. That's the problem with Gunther now. As soon as AJ slaps Gunther, I go, wow. Not only does AJ Styles have balls, but finally somebody does step up to Gunther. and if anybody can do this, maybe it's AJ. Come on. And I know I can't think like that. I don't want Gunther to have any matches anymore because all he's going to do is upset people.

53:48I know. And me. I'm thinking about me. I'm not thinking about people. I'm thinking about myself. And then AJ doubles down and he runs into Gunter backstage when Gunter's demanding a match with Adam Pearce. Well, listen. I mean, maybe there's this idea, right? Because I believe that you point, You, I believe, were the one who I was talking to that was talking about how Gunther is always just business. And I was like, not anymore. Not anymore. No, ever since he came back for John Cena's retirement tournament. Well, I think in the tournament, he was about business because the business was getting to John Cena and getting to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

54:28The business was getting that match with John Cena and getting John Cena to tap out like, you know. Like a little bee. that's exactly what I was thinking once he did that then it was about antagonism then it was about something else it was about enjoying the fact that he had ruined this for people basking in it yes so I wonder if there is any hope in this idea that that change in Gunther has maybe left him with his guard not being quite as open and that potentially AJ Styles who now has this chip on his shoulder who just got done with a tremendous tag team title reign with Dragon Lee does AJ Styles step up a more aggressive AJ Styles and AJ Styles that knows that the clock on his own career is winding down because again, you know, for tonight we're talking about Braun Breaker, we're talking about Maxine if AJ Styles goes down to Gunther especially bro AJ Styles can't tap out to Gunther no but he might tap out to Gunther I think Gunther's gonna do everything in his power to make AJ Styles tap out oh I hope AJ Styles does not tap out to Gunther Gunther's gonna do everything in his power to make sure that AJ Styles can't leave Dusseldorf I know I really hope I don't see AJ Styles tap out to Gunther I mean that's why I don't want to think about this match I know I know And then there's also that sliver of hope Where you go well if anybody It's AJ Of course But are we going to fall into that trap again I don't know I think our emotions are going to lead us there It's already starting I think that's the beauty of pro wrestling Our emotions are going to lead us there Well we'll see man We shall see It was a tremendous Monday Night Raw tonight Yeah what a start to the new year A big start to the new year I think that now we're on the road.

56:31We're headed out on the European tour, headed towards the Royal Rumble, headed towards the Elimination Chamber, headed towards it. We aren't headed anywhere because we're stuck in the basement here. And whose fault is that? It's yours. You're holding the show back. Well, I'm not trying to. I don't know where these tweets come from, but it's not something that I'm trying to do. Make sure you're subscribed to the Raw Recap Podcast. Everywhere you get podcasts, across all audio platforms, across YouTube. What a night. We will see you next week after Raw in Doozledorf. Have a good one, everybody. I hope AJ doesn't tap.

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