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Podcast Summary: What's Your Story? with Steph McMahon - Episode: Raw Recap - Wrestlepalooza Recap, Sept. 20, 2025
Podcast Overview In the podcast "What’s Your Story?" hosted by Steph McMahon, the focus is on personal stories of hardship and success from various personalities in sports and entertainment, including WWE. In this episode, titled "Raw Recap - Was Cody Rhodes lucky to remain champion?: Wrestlepalooza Recap," McMahon and her guests analyze the recent Wrestlepalooza event held on ESPN.
Episode Highlights
Guests and Setting
- Guests: Stephanie Vaquer, Sam Roberts, and Megan Morant.
- Location: Club Wrestlepalooza, Indianapolis, Indiana, close to the event venue.
Major Event Highlights
- Cody Rhodes vs. Drew McIntyre:
- Cody Rhodes successfully defended his WWE Championship against Drew McIntyre, showcasing a dramatic match filled with high-stakes moments.
- Discussion on the intensity of the match, including a dangerous Alabama slam and a surprise dive from Drew McIntyre.
- Rhodes' psychological strategies in the match, including playing with McIntyre’s vulnerabilities.
- Cody's Relationship with His Title:
- The conversation delves into Cody's desire to be seen as the face of WWE and the emotional weight he carries in his title reign.
- Speculation on whether Cody's willingness to employ less-than-honorable tactics indicates a change in his character.
- Brock Lesnar’s Dominance:
- Brock Lesnar’s return to the ring was marked by his overwhelming defeat of John Cena, eliciting mixed reactions from the audience.
- Stephanie Vaquer’s Championship Win:
- Vaquer becomes the new WWE Women's World Champion after defeating Io Sky, marking a significant moment as it was the first WWE Pay-Per-View event on ESPN.
- Vaquer shares her emotional journey, highlighting her father's presence during her victory, and the significance of her long career leading up to this moment.
Key Discussions
- WWE's Expansion on ESPN:
- The episode emphasizes the historical significance of WWE's move to ESPN, framing it as a milestone in wrestling entertainment.
- Character Development:
- The hosts examine the evolving character of Cody Rhodes, exploring themes of doubt, pressure, and the moral complexities of being a champion.
- Discussion on the Usos’ performance and the dynamics within the tag team, representing the ongoing narrative tension.
- Fan Reactions:
- Highlights of the crowd's emotional responses to the matches, particularly during Cody's and Vaquer’s moments.
- Speculation on future storylines and character arcs following Wrestlepalooza.
Merchandise and Promotions
- The hosts promoted various Wrestlepalooza memorabilia available for fans, including championship shirts and event-specific merchandise.
Conclusion The episode wraps up with discussions on the implications of the Wrestlepalooza match outcomes and a look ahead to future WWE programming. The dynamics of the characters, particularly Cody Rhodes and Stephanie Vaquer, are set to unfold in the coming weeks, and the hosts express excitement for the evolving narratives.
Key Takeaways
- WWE's historical shift to ESPN is a significant move for the company.
- Cody Rhodes is in a complex position as champion, facing doubts and pressures that may alter his approach to competition.
- Stephanie Vaquer’s triumph encapsulates a blend of personal and professional achievement, marking a new chapter in her career.
This podcast episode encapsulates the thrill of live wrestling events, the emotional investment of the characters, and the evolving landscape of sports entertainment, creating a compelling narrative for both fans and casual listeners alike.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00AJ Lee is back wrestling. Cody Rhodes walks out the WWE champion John Cena barely walks out. Braun Breaker, Paul Heyman, Bronson Reed on this show. Stephanie Vaquer on this show. This is the Wrestlepalooza Recap, a WWE and Fanatics original production.
0:27Oh, Megan, Megan, Megan. What a day. We meet again here in Indianapolis. I mean, literally feet away. There's one wall that separates us from the arena. We're here in the lovely Club Russell Palooza. That's what we're calling it, the Club Russell Palooza. Yeah, I hang out in cool nightclubs, and I watch wrestling, and you hang out in cool nightclubs, and you watch wrestling. So this is where we're at. You hear a lot of activity. Everybody is just filing out here in Indy. Well, there's a lot of excitement. A lot of excitement. Not only, and there was a buzz all day long. WWE doing their first PLE on ESPN.
1:05A huge deal. We saw this amazing video to open the show. Oh, I loved it. Comparing the way ESPN as an underdog grew to truly be this worldwide leader. And WWE the same way as this underdog grew to truly be this worldwide leader. And to see these paths finally meet, it feels like a no-brainer. It feels like a long time coming. But it also feels like I can't believe it's actually happening. Yeah, and I love the tagline, sports is entertainment. because always has been always will be and what it is about that entertainment is the fact that it makes us all feel that's right and i felt a lot out there tonight oh what a segue this professional megan marantis we felt good leaving the show what did we feel good okay let's let's break this down cody roads there were a few moments where i was kind of teetering i mean Listen, when anybody gets Alabama slammed onto the steel stairs, you're going to teeter.
2:04It was nuts. And, I mean, Drew, I'm sitting here. When he's winding up for that dive, I thought he was going to do like a tope suicida through the ropes or something like that and go, like, why is this guy diving? When he leaps like he's Montez Ford, clearing the top rope, flipping in midair and landing on Cody Rhodes, I go, what are we seeing? that flip caught me totally by surprise yes i legitimately yelled standing right next to you we both went oh six five 280 we i mean the shoulders like boulders i mean this the fact that he's doing that is insane but but at the end of the day the good guy wins we feel great Cody the WWE champion and you know I was arguing about this with The Miz on the road to Wrestle Palooza you and The Miz argue?
2:57can you imagine? We can't be in each other's presence at all without bickering but we argue about this because we were on the road to Wrestle Palooza special that ESPN did and I was sitting there trying to get across because every time there's a Cody Rhodes match like this there is a section of the audience and the Miz was representing that section going, no, no, no, Cody's great. Cody's still going to be the man. Don't worry about it. But this guy should win the title. But this guy, and it's like, when is Cody? You know, I'm watching Cody's podcast and his guest is Bruce Pritchard and they're having this really great conversation, not only about Cody getting signed, but about the backstage conversations that Cody has.
3:40And it is so obvious watching that podcast that Cody's desire, it's not just about the championship. Cody wants to be the face. Cody wants to be the man. Cody wants this conversation out the window. He wants there to be no debate as to who the man was the same way. When John Cena was the guy, there was no question. It was everybody and it was John Cena. And you could sense some of the frustration in Cody during that interview when Bruce Pritchard was talking about his nephew saying Roman Reigns was his favorite. That's exactly right. and Cody has to deal with Roman Reigns, right? And that's the whole story about the road to WrestleMania 40.
4:19It's like, yeah, no, Cody's the man, Roman Reigns. No, no, no, Cody's the man, but okay, fine. I beat Roman Reigns. I get the title. What happens? No, no, no, Cody's the man, but John Cena's back. No, no, no, Cody's the man, but John Cena's back. Cody finally has to go. He beats John Cena to get his title back. And now it's like, ah, Cody doesn't need the title. Cody should have the title. Cody is the man. Cody is the face of the company, but there's just something about people that feel the need to doubt this guy. And I wonder if it plagues Cody at all, because there are little things that Cody does, right, that I feel like those little things are popping up more and more.
5:05You know, the same way, when we saw that match with Kevin Owens way back when, and Kevin wouldn't go after Cody's knee because Kevin was doing the right thing. It cost him the title. And we see these instances. We saw it at WrestleMania 41. I think Cody learned more at WrestleMania 41 than we even realized. When he hesitated, he didn't hit John Cena with the title. That's the one time that he lost that title. There were a couple of times in this match, the first one, and we both went, oh my God, the same thing that happened with Randy, the turnbuckle exposed by drew drew exposed it cody takes advantage of it and we're going oh my god oh my goodness but drew kicks out which was exactly what happened in a different scenario we saw randy earlier in the match not punt cody rhodes randy then exposes the turnbuckle cody uses it to win but randy exposed it that's right so it's like that seed of doubt is still there it was this other moment it was this other moment when i and i get it by the way cody and drew are not friends the complete opposite as a matter of fact there's no reason drew mcintyre i don't know if you heard kicked cody rhodes head through a table and wanted wanted to do it again tonight badly so badly cody knew cody baited him into being like oh my head's right by this table i bet you really want to kick my head through this table and drew was like foaming at the mouth i do i really want to kick your head through this table and cody's sitting there and i am watching going like are we really to believe that cody is just sitting here prone for all this time with his head like if i was cody i'd be like let me avoid having my head anywhere near i mean it took him out of action for a few weeks right long and yes yes but then we realized cody was baiting drew cody was playing the psychological game cody moves because he knows this drew ends up putting his own foot through the table it was Drew's knee going out on him that was what ended this match for Drew McIntyre Cody takes advantage of him and ends up with the Cody cutter into crossroads one two three Cody is still your WWE champion but he did and it he didn't break any rules no he didn't but the way that he played Drew and played with Drew's vulnerabilities it's not to say Drew didn't deserve it but there is something that's a little less shiny and nice about the way cody won this match than the way historically he has won matches i don't mean this literally because he did win clean but it wasn't as clean cut of a cody match as we're used to seeing cut that's right that's the difference there's that little edge to cody and you start to go right because i mean we talked we talk about Jey Uso on Raw Recap, we'll talk about him here.
8:01But like, when you see those cracks in Jey, I talked to you about the fact that I think that there are a lot of times where that World Heavyweight Championship and the, not only the pressure that comes with it, but the reward in real life that comes with being the guy can also corrupt people. That's right. And so you get to a point where it's like, does Cody want to be the guy? And this is something that does Cody want to be the guy because he's earned it and he is clearly the guy? Or is Cody going to stop at nothing? And I mean nothing to be the guy. And I just. To prove it? I just read so far into these things.
8:46You know that I do. You're a deep guy. And I may be reading too much into it. Usually are. But it's happened before. I can't call you. Can't sue you for slander. but I am saying that it's like if you're willing to kind of bait your opponent like that if you're willing to take advantage of an opponent's wounded knee now he should be doing that as champion he made a mistake at Wrestlemania 41 that's exactly what he should be doing but it's just maybe not the same Cody that we've seen in the past in my opinion yeah and I think that's been building for a little while I think we started to see signs of it in that match against Randy Orton.
9:27That was the first time I said, oh, this is different. Cody wouldn't go there at WrestleMania. And to see him continue to have to go there, to me, shows it, not saying he wouldn't win without going there. Right, because that's the other thing. Does he have to go there? But he's not as naive as he maybe once was. That's a good word for it. Because I'm not doubting Cody's ability. I think he can win without going there. We've seen him do it. But the fact that he will go there to ensure that he wins is a different side. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. Because I think you're right. I don't think he needs it.
10:05But I think that it is an insurance policy. And when you're using insurance, I'm just watching him. I'm watching him. Because I love Cody. And I love good guy Cody. I love cheering for Cody. I love singing the song. And then you look at Cody, right? And you go, as the match is happening, I go, uh-oh, I'm seeing some edge here. And then he has the world championship and he has the microphone and he's talking about doing this show for ESPN in the United States, in Indianapolis, Indiana, and everybody's cheering him. And it's like, yeah, like, you know, good guys like that keep them. You don't ever just turn for the sake of turning.
10:45So it's a huge dichotomy. I think the same of Jey Uso. When I start seeing things that I go, I don't know about that behavior with Jey Uso. But then you listen to the crowd and they yeet along. It's incredible. I am very eager to hear how Drew McIntyre responds to this. Because the idea that this guy, who is this absolutely methodical wrestler, who lives in his head, made mistakes and it cost him the match. Like it's one thing to just be like, well, Cody was the better man tonight. And he was. it's another thing to be like here are things that I did wrong and I shouldn't have done that. And Drew's an honest guy.
11:27We know that about Drew McIntyre. He considers himself an honest guy. I think sometimes the way he looks at things might be a little skewed, but it's never false. It's not false. There was a moment in the match between Cody and Drew where I said I would love to see Drew as champion. Was it the... Stop me in my tracks. Yes, he hit the Claymore on Cody Rhodes. there was one, two, near fall, and I had a moment where I said, wow, I would really like to see Drew McIntyre as champion someday. Someday, and who knows? Who knows when that day will come? I'll tell you. Did you go? You know, we're here in Andy, backstage here.
12:05We're going to have a few guests here on the show in just a little bit, but before we get there, did you get a chance to go to the Wrestlepalooza Superstore? I heard you checked it out. Well, of course I did. I was there just this morning. a ton of merchandise. If you're not out here in Indy or you didn't have a chance to go, of course you can go to WWE Shop. You can go to Fanatics. We've got John Cena who we're about to talk about. Continuing his farewell tour, you can grab the Russell Palooza collection that he wore tonight, right now on WWE Shop and Fanatics. I'm talking about the tees, the hats, the sweatpants, the towels, and more.
12:38Last time in Indianapolis, you can celebrate that on WWE Shop. Stephanie Vaquera who will be on the show. Our new champion. A new women's world champion. You could celebrate her victory with the new winner's tee on WWE Shop and Fanatics. And of course, this is a historic night, Wrestlepalooza. Not only is this brand back and for the first time in WWE, but it's the first ever WWE PLE on ESPN. A massive, massive deal. You can grab all the official Wrestlepalooza event merchandise that you need and superstar gear from the big night at WWE Shop and Fanatics. So go check it out. If you like it, pick it up.
13:18But let's talk about John Cena. I mean, you knew. I knew. We talked about it. We talked about it with Big E when we did this preview show. You called this. But I didn't want to. I said it was a possibility. I love scenarios. Here's my thing. You ask me, what do you think is going to happen? I go, here are the scenarios that could happen. Because I love scenarios. This was one of the scenarios that I thought could happen. And as a matter of fact, I was surprised at how many people online when I was looking at Twitter replies were like, what was that? A lot of people seem very upset. And I go and I get it because it sucked the life out of the room.
13:54But I go, you have to know that that's a possibility. You have to expect it when you're going on this John Cena farewell tour. And John Cena, in his last handful of matches, has been tributing all of his great rivals and has been allowing us to kind of go back in time, not just the people that he's in the ring with, but through their match with other opponents that John Cena has had great matches with. But one of the biggest John Cena matches ever, and probably not one that a John Cena fan would want to revisit, but one of the most noteworthy matches ever was that SummerSlam after WrestleMania 30 when Brock Lesnar took him to Suplex City for the first time.
14:34And what was so interesting to me is the response to that match all the way back, I mean, it was 10 years ago. I think maybe 11 years. I think it was some reason 2014 or something like that. Yeah, it would be. Yeah, because that was WrestleMania 30. So, yeah, it was 11 years ago. The exact same response. The exact same response of people looking at that match going, what was that? because it makes you feel bad and they looked at tonight and said, what was that? And I mean, I'll tell you what it was. It was Brock showing the world what Brock and only Brock can do. Go in, destroy moments, make you believe that he is capable of destroying the moment that he just destroyed and then leaving children crying.
15:27of all matches for John Cena to come to the ring with all those kids. The Brock match is not the one to do it with. No. John Cena is for the children. We know that about John Cena. Of course we do. But you brought up this SummerSlam match on our last podcast. And I spent some time this week watching that match. And then I'm watching Friday Night SmackDown. We see what happens right off the top of the show. Corey Graves eats two F5s. Michael Cole is all shook up. And he's talking. And I think it broke every bone in Corey Graves' body. It might have. By the time he fell down. Have you checked in on him?
15:58No, I probably should have hit him in text. Yeah, that was... I actually didn't either. Oh, shoot. Well, anyways, Michael Cole all chickened up. And he's talking about that SummerSlam match. And by the way, the Miz had no sympathy for Michael Cole at all. Hey, Michael, why don't you have more energy? It's like, come on, Miz. He's almost destroyed by Brock Lesnar. And then watch his colleague get completely destroyed. Anyways, Cole is talking about that SummerSlam match, and it really stuck out to me because he says, you know, that was when John Cena was in his prime. And I think, you know, I think Brock Lesnar wakes up every single day still in his prime, despite as many years that have passed.
16:42And from the minute we saw his music hit, we saw him enter, I was terrified for John Cena. Yeah, and that's crazy to say because John Cena not only, you know, you talk about John Cena's prime. Number one, he's John Cena, the Never Seen 17 greatest of all time, but also having some of the best matches that he's ever had right now. But I mean, look, what's the word that we used with Big E to describe what that match was like? Uncomfortable. How did you feel when Brock, I mean, because this time it wasn't like, yeah, it was suplex city, suplex after suplex after suplex. Well, he said suplex city.
17:19And he used the B word, but pluralized. but then it was F5 City. It was F5 after F5. He hit five F5s, five or six F5s. And then he just pins John Cena, one, two, three, ring the bell. It was uncomfortable. John Cena did get, what, three attitude adjustments in? In a row. Gave us a little hope. In a row. Only for Brock to completely crush our souls. Brock didn't even, Brock stood up after the first two. Didn't even keep him down. Third one kept him down, one, two, kick out. Oh, no. That's what he's saying. Oh, no. And I mean, I'll tell you how real it felt. The audience was chanting, thank you, Cena.
18:04He's still got five more appearances. Thank you, Cena, for the last appearance. It's almost like, okay, we were all having a good time, but Brock has proven this good time is not for us anymore. Thanks, John. Way to ride off into the sunset. Like, you're not looking at John going, ah, I wonder what's next, but something is next. There are still five more appearances. This is the last time John's in Indy. We're not at the end of the year yet. We're not. Well, speaking of what's next, what do you think is next for Brock Lesnar? Whatever he wants. I mean, literally whatever he wants. That's a good point.
18:35What did he want to go? He destroyed. First, it was R-Truth. Then it was Corey Graves. And then tonight, John Cena and the referee. Rudy. I know. Our referee. I know. That was unnecessary. Of course it was unnecessary. But it was also an unnecessary thing that led to something that was unnecessary. He wanted to F5 John Cena again. Again, yeah. Match was already over. It was all unnecessary. But, I mean, listen, I think that that is what makes Brock Lesnar a headline wherever he goes. That is, like, that's what beating The Undertaker streak did for Brock Lesnar. That's what that SummerSlam match with John Cena did for Brock Lesnar.
19:18That's what beating Kofi Kingston did for Brock Lesnar. That's what winning Big E's title did for Brock Lesnar. I'm not saying that those are all things that anyone should be happy about. I'm not saying any of those were things that made you feel good as a wrestling fan. But what I am saying is that Brock Lesnar is the only person in WWE that it doesn't matter what the match is. If he's on the other side of the graphic, there's a better than 50 % chance that he's going to win. Every single time. And there's nobody else like that. And sometimes we forget that. And even when it's John Cena's retirement tour, and even when we're all wearing yellow, everybody was wearing John Cena shirts in Indy.
20:03Everybody was wearing yellow. All his kids were in yellow. John Cena's wearing yellow. I got that yellow t-shirt. And I don't even wear yellow like that. Yellow's not your color either. Well, thank you. But that's neither here nor there. Not necessary. but the point is that like we all forgot even when i'm i said it and i still forgot i was talking to craig today he was like who do you think's gonna win he said cena i said john cena i said john cena and then we're gonna go and have more success with john cena and then brock comes in and he goes why would you say that why would you even say that it's wild because like you know we think retirement toward that doesn't mean winning tour no no especially when brock lesnar's around we still don't exactly know and we were talking about this why Brock has decided to just ruin this other than maybe it's just the fact that he can and also and maybe we'll talk about this more tomorrow on Raw Recap how is there a new connection with Paul Heyman how is it we should do you think when when Brock said we should talk it was just like hey I'd like you to do my announcements that would be very oh my goodness my larynx is going yeah paul hayman took my larynx heard you got your larynx backs would you would you just do my announcements for me i don't think that that's where paul hayman's skill set ends it is amazing and this is a story that we haven't given enough energy to the fact that paul hayman breathe it's so like me had a larynx problem i'll tell you who Brock's not calling for his entrance.
21:40Jeez. Paul Heyman had a larynx problem. Comes back, does Brock's entrance. New larynx. I mean. Wouldn't even note it. But. It's a new larynx? I think so. It has to be, right? No. I think he's got a new larynx. I didn't know that that was the procedure. I talked to him earlier. Did you give him yours? Is that why you can't talk right now? That's exactly why I can't talk right now. You might have taken it. But Paul Heyman and Brock. peace Brock Lesnar that's why I don't do the entrances that's why we have Alicia Taylor and Paul Heyman she's fantastic but it couldn't have been just about doing the entrance all of the history that Brock and Paul have there's so much there I do want to talk to you about Tops now lots of moments tonight you know I love bringing up Tops now have a little drink of water for yourself you know I love you know i love tops i love tops now i love that we get these moments uh at these big shows and tops now puts out these cards for very limited time i just ordered my uh dominic mysterio winning the triple a mega championship card that's not available anymore but i got it while it was still up well tops now captures major milestones and viral moments from the biggest events like aj lee's return which skyrocketed by the way to the number three best-selling tops now wwe card ever which is amazing because this year has been full of moments they always do before PLEs, Topps put out a Wrestlepalooza poster card featuring John Cena and Brock Lesnar collectors who buy the base card are going to have the chance to receive rainbow foil short prints or even gold super short prints limited to 25 copies but this card is only available until Monday at 3pm Eastern as always make sure you're following at Topps on social media and sign up for notifications on tops.com for the big moment cards from Russell Palooza and tune into the raw recap podcast.
23:42I know that podcast for more info and card graphics. I hope I, I, I'm going to have to get the Brock. If they Brock gets a tops now card, you're getting it. I got to get it. My larynx is back. Well, I'm glad your larynx is back, but, uh, we had a massive tag match. Yes, we did. It was the Usos back together for the first time against the Visions, Bronson Reed and Brom Breaker, along with Paul Heyman. Now, look, we got what I thought was a great scoop. When I found out, the guys here said, get back to the room. Immediately after this match, you're getting the winners. And when the Vision won it, I was like, I'm bummed the Usos didn't win, but this is great.
24:29We're going to get to talk to Bronson Reed. We're going to get to talk to Bron Breaker. We're going to get to talk to Paul Heyman. I then, we recorded the interview. You can tell it's recorded because you can probably hear the event going on in the background. I had said to the guys, guys, maybe we scrapped this. I didn't like how it turned out. You didn't? No, no, no. I asked the guys to please scrap it. And the guys told me, no, we're not scrapping this interview. It's a big interview. So, and also they said Megan really wants to run it. So I got voted out You kind of left me hanging there Okay Let's share the interview I left you Oh you didn't like how it turned out I was almost Here is For the first time after beating the Usos Bronson Reed And Braun Breaker Alongside Paul Heyman Megan Help me welcome Two men that had, I mean, here, if you want to.
25:32An incredible night already tonight along with the guidance. Why do we have to talk to you? You don't have to, but I appreciate it. Tell me why. Explain it to me. Well, we want to recap the show. Who's we? So you speak for Megan? No. You're her spokesperson. No. You're her advocate. No. You're her special counsel. You're her wise man. Her oracle? Yeah, now you're pissing him off. I don't mean to. I'm sorry. No, no. Anything to say, please. She bats furniture. What is this show, huh? Yeah, what are we doing? Well, Mr. Heyman, you've had a very busy night starting off Wrestlepalooza with Brock Lesnar and then following it up with a vision earning a victory tonight over the Usos.
26:23Damn right. ask him a question he's gonna how does it feel i mean you're coming in in a rage but it's as successful as i think any three superstars could hope to be on the debut of wwe on espn when you talk about following a rage
26:49defeated the most prolific tag team champions in the history of wwe That's right. The Usos. Why would I be in a rage? I don't. Besides your cheap-ass furniture. Oh, I apologize. And Megan's cheap-ass partner. Tell me. That's... Tell me. Tell me, Sam. Tell me. Why would I be in a rage? Why? I would ask you that question. I don't know why. It just... There's a hostility. Right here. Greg about your accomplishments. That I feel. Let him know it, Braun. Greg about him. We're the greatest tag team ever. After tonight? We beat the supposed greatest tag team of all time. They didn't beat us. Nope. They were never the greatest tag team of all time.
27:30We are. Yep. Ultimate power. Total control. That's it. We own this place. These microphones, all this stuff. We own this entire industry. Whose microphone is this? It's ours. Whose bottle of water is this? The thieves. Whose couch is this? Division. Matter of fact, you're sitting on my couch. Whose tag team division is this? I mean, it's yours. No, it's not mine. It's yours. It's ours. And you absolutely proved it tonight. I mean, not only did you beat them, you beat them with a referee that I would call questionable. It was an absolutely decisive. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Switch.
28:21Are you? Switch. Listen to the men. Unless you want those... You want them gone? I've seen those Russell Fowles. I can take them. I know they won't fit me. They're children's size. No, they're not. They're adults. I mean, in fairness, I'll... I find you beautiful. Oh, thank you. I find you a wonderful human being. And I find you to be a fabulously impartial reporter and journalist. Please, ask your questions. Gentlemen, do you feel like tonight you made a statement on ESPN for the first time in WWE history? That's an excellent question. Mr. Reid? Statement was made. The Usos. Everyone talks about the Usos.
29:06But now it's time for people to be talking about the bronze, the dog, the thief. Together, we are unstoppable and we showed it tonight. And we're going to keep showing that. Every single time we go down to that ring, we own it. Mr. Breaker?
29:27Excuse me. Please, continue.
29:32Continue. Jack, come on. Get up! Oh, now's the time.
29:43Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry.
29:50Not a man to be trifled with. There's a reason he's the dog. There's a reason he's off the leash. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman. I sit here tonight besides the lovely and talented and most impartial Megan as the representative of the greatest tag team of all time, Mr. Bronson Reed, Bron Breaker. Megan, please, continue your interview. Over the week leading up to WrestleFluenza, we noticed some tension between the Usos building. but tonight when they entered the arena, I mean, they seemed completely on the same page. Was there ever a moment before the match began where you look at them working together so cohesively and you think this is the greatest tag team of all time?
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30:44Maybe we're in trouble? Who writes these scripts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, never. What the hell? Never once. We're full of confidence. We're the vision. Like I said, each and every member of the vision is top-tier talent. I understand the Uso's accomplishments, but like I said, we've been speaking about him for far too long. In yesterday's news, we got the future. Wherever he went, he obviously got angry at your broadcast partners. He's gone now. We got the future, and we have, of course, the thief. And we're just going to keep rolling through anyone you put in front of us. It's easy. I'm going to be honest.
31:20I'm offended. That had to be a leftover from, what's his name? Sam. Sam, right. Jim Norton. Sam Norton. The holdover from Jim Norton. Because the question itself, to be blunt, with all due respect to you and all of your many talents, the question was a joke. And the reason why the question was a joke is it goes on the presumption that the Usos were not at 100 % tonight, that they weren't on the same page, that somehow the victory by Mr. Bronson Reed and Bronbreaker was not as impactful, was not as impressive, was not as historic as it could be because the Usos weren't on the same. Usos were 100%.
31:57In fact, I don't think the Usos have ever been better. Yeah, I agree. The Usos, at their very best, were beaten, victimized, and bloodied by Bronson Reed and by Braun Breaker, who simply proved that they are better and greater than the Usos. I'm not taking anything away from the Usos. I'm not out here making a fool of myself where the people that I represent by saying the Usos suck. They don't suck. they don't suck. They are the greatest tag team of all time until tonight when it was proven otherwise and perhaps one day way deep into this century someone will prove to be greater but for their foreseeable future I just don't see that happening.
32:48Me either. Well Mr. Heyman I would be remiss if I didn't ask you two questions. First of all what were you doing out there with Brock Lesnar tonight? Oh, that is a very good question, and here is an answer for you. I was introducing Brock Lesnar. Yeah. What did it look like I was doing? On Monday night, did you get any phone calls? Can you be more specific? I get a lot of phone calls. I get a lot of texts. I get a lot of DMs. Yeah. I could poll on Monday night. Oh, yes. So, I'll answer that. Yes. Yes, I got many phone calls. One from Bronson Reed. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, is there something more specific that you'd like to know?
33:31No, I'm serious. I'm not, you act like I'm busting your chops or that I'm breathing down your neck or something over here, and I'm being a perfect gentleman with you. What specific phone calls are you asking me about? Well, it's just on Monday night, Jey Uso made a phone call. He told Jimmy not to worry about it, and I couldn't help. And that's the manner in which you asked me? Why not just come out and bluntly say, did Jey Uso call you on Monday night? Did Jey Uso call you on Monday night? Why would you ask me such a question like that? Why would you ask me that? Think. Why don't you ask Jey Uso?
34:02He made a phone call. He makes lots of phone calls. That's the yeet man himself. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Tupali pali pukalola, hey, hey, hey. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Talo for malo. Hey, I'm a white you fatu Uso, hey. Right? Come on. How many phone calls do you think the man makes in a night? We haven't been to catch them one time on camera, and it has to be to Paul Heyman. These conspiracy theories are way out of whack, okay? Don't host the show with Jim Norton over there. Host the show with Charlemagne, and just go all the way with the conspiracy theories. I feel like I'm being interviewed by Rosenberg tonight.
34:36Yeah. Could be worse, right? He has much more hair than Rosenberg. Does that make you a better person? I didn't say that. You've got much more hair than me. Does that make you a better person? I didn't say that. What did you say? It's like the comparison. Anyways, Brock Lesnar told you last night on Smackdown that he had some things to talk to you about. Indeed. Was it just introducing him? What, do you think I have a freaking death wish? I'm going to talk about Brock Lesnar's business in public? That's a good point. Thank you very much. Oh, that's a good... I like how... You know, that's another thing.
35:11Why do people have to sit there and tell me that my answers are good? Like, that's a good point, Mr. Heyman. Like my other answers are not good points Like everything else I said up to this point Was bad and that one Happened to be good Good answer Paulie Oh Paulie got an answer good Thank you woman with the hair Any more questions Man Brinko is right This place is too much I'm an intellect damn it And a WWE Hall of Famer and your questions accuse me of conspiracy theories and they're very upsetting to me I'm such a grand night you know if I came up with the name Russell Beluso but did you give me any credit about that no Brock Lesnar the Usos are not on the same page so they will suck right did Jey Uso call you on Monday night why'd you just call me fat too now you have one member of the vision left so you better make your question good because you got one left the oracle's gone, the dog's gone just me Uso when you saw Jey Uso all bloodied and went up to hit the tsunami way good, way good thanks out of here thank you for the time, congratulations thank you to Paul Heyman Brunson Reed and Brumbraker for joining us for the show for forcefully removing me from the show for almost injuring one of our producers Megan you did a great job and I did not leave you hanging by the way when Brombreker just decided I don't even think I even asked anything inappropriate and also I don't think you asked anything inappropriate but like when Brombreker just decided oh I want to end Sam Roberts his life it did look like he was That's how he was looking at me.
37:13I was like, I don't know what to do here. And then he told me to leave. And then he almost threw a bottle of water through my head. Yeah, but once you were all in the clear, you just left me out there. No, I'm not coming back. The threat of a tsunami and Paul Heyman, you just left me out there. You don't think Bronson Reed would have backed up Braum Breaker if I'd walked back on that set? I wasn't coming anywhere near that set. I was gone. I went back on the floor, watched the rest of the show. I'm not needed here anymore. I got to escape quick. Well, we both survived. It wasn't easy, but. No, no, but thank you.
37:45Look, it was a massive victory. It was against the greatest tag team ever. All of it true. I mean, Jey Uso. Jey Uso, I caught what you had. Getting busted open in that match. You know, and I was not saying L.A. Knight let everything go. Like, L.A. Knight just allowed tables. He allowed chairs. He allowed it all. Yeah, pretty early on. At one point, he saw the chair and said, you know what? Screw it. Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess LA Knight's not a narc. So, you know, he's just going to let it. He's going to let it go. But maybe that's what Adam Pearce wanted. Now, there were a couple moments where it looks like LA Knight, you know, got a little too close to comfort.
38:27Well, yeah, all the moments that Jey Uso almost hit him with stuff. Yeah. Jey Uso stopped himself. But there were, I mean, if I'm LA Knight, I'm like, okay, but this is like the third time it's happened in this match. How do I know you're not doing it on purpose? So I definitely don't think that that Jey Uso LA Knight story is over at all. And again, this was something that I talked about with The Miz on the road to Wrestlepalooza. That as fun as it is to see the Usos back together, are they focused on the tag team? Or are they really kind of focused on their individual careers and just coming back together because it feels normal?
39:06because I tell you, you know, Brombrink and Bronson Reed focused on their mission as a team. Yeah, and the entrance was so much fun, right? Everybody has their phones up and everybody's yeeting. Hearing the old song? Yeah, it was day one-ish. Right. And then we go to the new song. It's not paranoia. It's the Usos. I'm glad you put some stank on that. But it's a great song. That's what I meant. We see them. We have this scene where you're yeeting, I'm yeeting, we're out there in the audience. I mean, Sam, you spent a whole week on multiple platforms, multiple podcasts, dissecting the psychology that's going into Jey Uso because he's dealing with trauma.
39:49When you see Jey Uso up there with his brother Jimmy having a great old time, is there part of you that goes, am I crazy? Because I was like, Sam told me a trauma. This does not look like trauma. It goes right back to what I was saying at the beginning of this show. when I go like, I don't care about any of it. I don't care about the tension. I don't care about the trauma. If you just go ahead and tell me, I mean, you asked Paul Heyman about the phone. Like if you go back and you tell me all this stuff about the phone doesn't matter. Jimmy's comments. And Miz had a good point when he said sometimes when brothers talk to each other, to an outsider, it sounds more severe.
40:25That's true, that's true. Because they cut through the fat because they're brothers. And I go, okay, if you just tell me everything's fine, the last thing in the world that I want to do is add any tension to Jey Uso because he's a party. But it's not fine because that's the greatest tag team of all time, and they just lost. No, you're right. You're right. Well, we'll see where it goes. I'm very, very excited because we were talking about Topps earlier. When I was dying. Huh? When I was dying. You were unfortunately, yeah, but you kicked out. You kicked out at two and three quarters, and I was happy about that.
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42:52Just, I mean, maybe the feel-good match of the entire year. Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch come to the ring with just as spectacular an entrance as they possibly can. With probably the coolest gear of all time. Very purple. My favorite color. Purple's your favorite color. That's right. They must have known. I know. Or is it your favorite color now? Does it matter? No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. I don't need the backstory. CM Punk and AJ Lee come out as only they can. Both of them, both teams with the mashup theme music that's gonna have fans debating as to which mashup was better and zm punk wearing a jacket that says aj's husband with the thing on the back he had instead of the five chicago stars it was like the stars and then the little aj logo on the back of his trunks as well these two and we talked about it very much in love little peck on the cheek here a little makeout sesh for seth and becky which i wasn't that comfortable with but love is great We love love.
43:47Now, when you're talking about the match, oh, I mean, you talk about a beautiful three-act story structure. Just that whole first act, waiting for AJ Lee to finally hit the ring. And, you know, the fascinating thing about a mixed tag is that usually in these tag matches, you're waiting for that hot tag. You're waiting for the good guy to tag his good guy partner so you can have that explosion, and accept in a mixed tag. If Seth were to tag Becky, AJ Lee becomes the legal participant. So Seth's job is not only to keep CM Punk from tagging AJ, but to also stay in the ring himself, to stay strong himself because he can't tag his partner.
44:31And to watch that kind of play itself out over the course of the first part of this match, I thought was brilliantly done. And the amount of falses and almost, and we're going to see it. No, we're not going to see it. Oh, he made the tag, but the referee didn't see it. We finally get it. AJ Lee gets in the ring, and after 10 years, it is insane how much of a step she has not missed. And for a lot of fans tonight, myself included, this is my first time watching AJ Lee. Yeah, you've never seen her. You didn't watch her live. You weren't watching 10 years ago. No, I wasn't watching live. You can go back and watch the old matches.
45:09But it's not the same. It's not the same. You don't feel it the way you felt it tonight. And you love Becky, but you feel what you feel. Yeah. And you felt it. Yeah, the whole crowd felt it. You were all lighting it up. That's what they call that. That's why the music says that. AJ going out there, not missing a step. And then like, I mean, going for like all the different moves on each other from Becky putting CM Punk in the sharpshooter. That was probably my favorite part. AJ Lee putting Seth in the Black Widow to just like move after move. And I mean, and the make out session that I was uncomfortable with being interrupted by a tope from CM Punk.
45:52And I will say this. We talked about LA Knight just throwing the rules out the window. We love Jessica Carr as a referee. But I mean, she just decided to let bygones be bygones in this one. There was a lot going on, right? Yeah. And maybe she, too, got overwhelmed in the emotion that it was AJ Lee's first match in over 10 years. As a fan, I appreciate that she let everything go. I do wonder if a general manager is going to be like, hey, there are rules in matches. What were you doing out there? Oh, my bad. But that's what I would say. As a fan, I was like, this is great. Just watching him go at it.
46:29I've seen that moment where it's like, we thought we were going to see the double table crash with Becky and AJ on one table and Seth and Punk on the other table. And then they switched around. And then you got to the point where you saw
46:48Punk was going to throw Seth through the table, but Becky was still in charge of AJ. So she threw AJ and they all just crashed through the table. Did it shock you? When we get to the end of this epic, epic match, and what happens, the Black Widow is applying. No slickness, no nothing, straight up. Becky Lynch, the women's intercontinental champion, the woman some say is the best women's... Some? Some. A lot of people are saying it. Such as? Sports Illustrated. Really? ESPN. Oh. bleacher report okay all right i didn't know all those were saying it but regardless she tapped out to the black widow becky lynch tapped out tonight and cf punk no it doesn't surprise me you want to know why it doesn't surprise me oh my god i really becky lynch's intercontinental championship was not on the line and she has so much respect for the title and defending the title with honor that she just that she had to do what she had to do because she needs to be back on monday night raw to defend the women's intercontinental title and be a fighting champion.
48:02So she lost. Sometimes you have to take losses. What? That's not how this works. You have to lose so that you can go defend your title again? What, do you want her to just get hurt and not be a fighting champion? No, I want her to escape the submission hold. And if she can't escape the submission hold, then she taps out because she lost the man. Listen, she's slick, but maybe tonight she wasn't slick enough to escape AJ Lee's hold. It's hard to be that slick that deep into the match. You know what I mean? Especially because, let's be honest, she probably didn't have the largest expectations going in.
48:31She didn't know AJ Lee was still so good. No, she didn't. She was all hung up on the neck. Yeah. For 10 years. Didn't seem like AJ Lee had a problem at all. Okay, as a Becky Lynch fan, but you still see that moment. You see CM Punk looking proud as he's laying, beaten and broken across that table. He's still looking up and smiling because AJ gets this moment. It did make you feel kind of good. Yeah, and it's hard because I do. Like, I see Becky Lynch tap out, and I go, no, I won't accept that. There has to be a reason. So I come up with this reason that it's because her title wasn't on the line, and she did what she had to do to keep herself healthy so she could defend the title.
49:08But I see CM Punk, and I see AJ, and I hear the reaction, and I feel what everybody else feels for AJ, too. It's incredible. It's amazing. This is what it's all about. It's all about emotions, and we felt a ton of emotions in the match to declare the new women's world champion. That title vacated after Naomi went away to have a baby Oose. The match is made. EO Sky. That's what she's having. EO Sky. They were looking at me like I'm crazy. That's what she's having. EO Sky versus Stephanie Vaquer for the women's world championship. Stephanie Vaquer comes out on top and guess where the first place she went was with that championship.
49:54right here to Club Wrestlepalooza. She joined us back here, and we'd like to share that with you. Oh, here she is. Come on in. Please sit down. The new... Yeah, yeah. Wherever you're comfortable. Please take a seat. Champion. Keep your microphone and tell me how this sounds. Don't be sorry about anything. Oh, don't talk. Yes. the new WWE Women's World Champion, Stephanie Vaquer. How do you feel? Wow. I, thank you. Yeah, no. I can't explain a word. I say this is the dream of my life. The dream of my life. I can't believe today is like finally. Yeah. Finally. And we saw, you know, we saw during the countdown show, the video package and so much of your story and how this really has meant everything to you.
51:01And we talked to you here on the podcast a month or two ago about the journey that you've been on and the fact that there were tryouts earlier and the fact that this did take as long as it took. And even when Megan and I asked you about how quickly you've been able to rise through the ranks to go through NXT to now become the women's world champion, you said, you know, it feels quick maybe to you. But to you, this is something that you've worked for for years and years and years. Does this feel like the sort of acknowledgement of what you've done and the fact that it was all worth it? I dream with this for the last 15 years every day, every day.
51:48I have a long career and really difficult career because I was born in a country where the pro wrestling no exists. So it's so hard for me to move, learn new language, new style, I started to learn wrestling. But every day, I'm starting in wrestling, and every day say, one day I will be champion. Look, I did it. And what's it like for that match to be the match that we saw? First to be WWE's first PLE on ESPN, which, I mean, you can feel the energy. This is so important for this company, and this company is clearly putting their best foot forward and kind of showcasing the best of what WWE has to offer and for it to be in a match, not to take anything away from Naomi, but for it to be in this match with Io Sky, who is widely acknowledged as potentially the best female wrestler on the planet.
52:51I think you could argue that based on your championship, but does that make it more special? Yeah, I know. So for me, this is really special because I am La Primera. La Primera means the first one because I did many things the first time. So now it's the first time ESPN with WWE, Wrestling Palooza. So we started a new history, and now I started, I made a new history with my championship. so together this is not just something amazing for my career it's amazing for my family WWE and it was also the first time that your father got to see you wrestle yes and happy birthday happy birthday to dad my dad so it's his birthday it's the first time he sees you wrestle live and it's the night that you win yes the championship sometimes the fates everything just aligns sometimes.
53:53We talk about that today with my dad because when I was, I don't know, maybe 12, I had WWE big fan and watched TV and my dad say, ah, you watch the wrestling and say, yeah, okay. And he watched with me and always said like, ah, practice, like I'll play with suplex. And yeah, so he saw my dream, And every day he saw my sacrifice. So it's the first time he here can see me, my match in life. So my dad is like crazy now. He's like, wow, and Chuck. But I go and say, dad, happy birthday. Yeah, he's so happy. And for me, it's special. The thing happened for one reason. It's weird because when I know when WWE say, you not go for a crashing party, I feel so sad.
55:01But now I know why. Why reason? Because now my dad can come here and see me. Yeah, that's... Yes. So, and make history with my family, WWE, ESPN, Wrestling Palooza. So I'm happy. I'm blessed. I can't describe in one word. That is wild, huh? That's even more. All the twists and turns. I mean, we saw you. We talked to you just after you won the match at Evolution that guaranteed you a title match, which was supposed to be maybe against Naomi in Paris. And all the twists and turns led to this championship moment with your father in the audience. could you have ever imagined, as big of a dream as this was for you, could you have ever imagined that it would feel like this?
55:49This is better than my dream. Yeah, I always dreamed with this title, but now it's better than my dream. Because now it's with my dad and with my family, WWE here, Wrestling Palooza, it's better. It's better than my dream. Have you thought at all about the fact that now, like that dream has come true? that that journey that chapter ends here but now this other journey starts this new journey this separate you know life and you see this with with champions in the wwe sometimes where it's like you work and work and this is the goal except now everything's only just begun now you have to not only defend the title but you have to prove night after night that you deserve to be the top person in this women's division and you know better than anybody how amazing this women's division is yeah and sometimes this takes a lot of time because uh i did uh try out for wwe seven years ago and i'm not ready and they say you're not ready and i understand but i go for other country i learn new style i go for all the discipline i train in heart every day and i i buy here after seven years and say okay i say one day i go to wwe and seven years later in wwe so yeah sometimes the dream take a lot time and many people can say okay i have now and in wwe have just one year yeah but believe me this is not big yeah i know you want to enjoy this and you should you really should enjoy this but i do have to ask we've seen you on monday night raw backstage with rhea ripley a few times she's a superstar who you know she she had quite the run with that title have you thought at all about defending the title have you thought at all about rhea ripley I mean, it's not just Rhea.
57:52The entire roster on Raw is stacked. Yeah, I know. I need to start saying I really want a match with Naomi. I'm so happy she's pregnant. Good news. I'm waiting for Naomi. But I'm so happy because this match is with Io Sky, one of the best in the world. And now, of course, I want to defend this with everyone. And when I say everyone, my dream, like, big match with Rhea, that's what, that will be amazing. So when I say I like big challenge and I'm brave, so I'm here, championship, everyone. I defend my championship with everyone. What about the sort of locker room component of this that now you just said it's your first year in WWE.
58:52There was a period of time where I'm sure not very long ago at all, whether or not you've been doing this 15 years or not, you walked into a locker room with a lot of faces that hadn't seen you before. You were getting to know them for the first time. And now you lead this locker room. Yeah, I know. I mean, what does that feel like? Is that a pressure that you want? It's amazing because the women's division, WWE Women's Division, is the best women's division. And here I have respect because they know about my career before WWE, and I have a lot of respect for everyone because I know everyone amazing, amazing wrestlers.
59:41and not just that also many I grew up with I don't know Trish status so now it's like wow same locker room and for me amazing legends the woman started this they made the way for us so I don't know it's amazing it's the best locker room And my career is my family because it's my family. But now, I mean, I think in this 15 years is what you need to do this because these people that you had all this admiration for now all of a sudden are looking at you with admiration, with, wow, I can't believe what she's bringing to the ring and what she's bringing into these matches and the way she's captured the audience.
1:00:37I mean, that's part of it, right? You can have the best matches in the world, but if the audience doesn't care, it just doesn't matter. You're not in that boat. I mean, the audience is riding with you. Every move that you make, everything that you do from entrance to exit, they've got your back. The devil's kiss, of course, is something everybody waits for. Have you heard two questions? How do you feel and are you surprised at how quickly the audience jumped on with you? And second question, have you heard from Booker T? I miss and I love Booker T. Yeah, really. I really miss Booker T. Okay. I'm surprised and people really support me.
1:01:24And I need to say thank you because people really know about my career. And I know for me, when I say wrestling is my first language, is because English is not my first language, of course. And I can't, maybe sometimes I can't say good.
1:01:47So wrestling is my first language. And anyway, if I can't speak really good English yet, people really can see me in the ring and really can feel with me because I put my soul in the ring every time. So for me, the people support for me is motivation because it's like, thank you. I really push myself and learn everyday English. But if I can talk anywhere, they can see my soul in the ring and my first language, wrestling. Yes, she makes us feel. I mean, from the moment your music hits to, I mean, the entire time we see you, you just, you make us all feel. And congratulations. Thank you so much.
1:02:38Yeah, I mean, well-deserved. What a moment. I can't wait to see the moments that follow this and follow this because that's what else that championship is. It's a license to continue to create moments on the biggest scale imaginable. Thank you for sharing some of your time with us tonight. And go celebrate. Yeah. Go enjoy yourself. Enjoy. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I mean, how do you not root for Stephanie Vaqueror after seeing that? Stephanie Vaqueror, like, and you could feel it as she was answering these questions, that this really is, like, something that she's worked for for all these years.
1:03:17And to see her have this success and to see it all feel deserved and to see the, it seems like, based on her answers, that the locker room supports her. You didn't have to be in Indianapolis, but we were to see that this building supported her. And how many people online and watching on the ESPN app and Netflix internationally are supporting this move to see this injection of fresh blood in the WWE women's division. I mean, it's great, isn't it? I just love seeing the stars align for it to happen on a night like tonight. Because we talked to her before about her journey to get here. It was 15 years.
1:03:54but just zoom in a little bit and talk about the journey of the last several months going from evolution that moment in the ring confetti falling down women's all pay-per-view she earns an opportunity to have a championship match but then that has all kinds of twists and turns she doesn't even know when the match is going to be so the fact that it happened tonight her family in the audience I think it was a dream scenario That was a nuts part of the interview when she pointed out that, like, she was supposed to get the match at Clash in Paris. And it seemed like, oh, well, we're not going to do it.
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1:05:50And he goes, are you ready? And I go, what'd I say? He said, Undertaker's joining DX. I was so psyched. I was like, this is so cool. Undertaker's joining DX. I never thought we were going to get here. I know as a kid, it was 98. I'm like, you know, it'd be awesome if Undertaker was in DX. And all my friends would be like, no, it wouldn't. That wouldn't be awesome at all. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to tell them all. He's in DX. He's doing the Hunter thing right now. But he wants to join. You were right on that one. You were right. He wasn't joining DX. I was wrong. It's so funny how quickly you get carried away.
1:06:23I know. I know. Because the thing. And I'm like, oh, my God. This is so great. It was something else. Also great, though. He announces that Stephanie McMahon is the first inductee that is going to be going into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2026. And seeing Steph react the way she reacted. and and then like whenever these hall of fame announcements get made i get so reflective on the performers they get announced for stephanie is so much more than a performer i mean she's a she's a mcmahon she's stephanie mcmahon she her whole life has been this company she was in the catalog ads when she was a little kid selling rockers t-shirts as soon as she was in a she's she was a performer and like evolved into being this like, oh, Stephanie McMahon's on TV.
1:07:18She's getting, you know, she's in trouble with The Undertaker and she's getting involved in this and getting involved with that. And now Triple H is marrying her on television and what on earth is going on and becomes, like elevates in a way to the point that she becomes like the blueprint for a heel in the role that she was in. I mean, what's the first thing that people said when Becky revealed herself as the person to help Seth retain the world championship at Clash in Paris. They said it's a power couple, like the McMahon-Helmsley regime. It is the blueprint for all of this, and for her to be as big a part of wrestling history as she has been throughout the eras.
1:08:02But then also, you know, be this influence behind the scenes. You hear so many people doing these interviews, whether they're in WWE or after they leave WWE, and they start talking about what was really going on behind the scenes and this and that and who influenced them and who helped them. And they all have these stories about Stephanie McMahon and how important she is and has been and continues to be. And I mean, just as a fan who was going back to thinking about high school and The Undertaker and Stephanie and all these stories that were told to see them here on ESPN in Indianapolis and go, yeah, I'm the guy who's telling you you're going into the Hall of Fame, which is such an awesome, special moment.
1:08:50And I'm just, I'm happy for me as a fan, but so happy for Stephanie as well. Thrilled for Stephanie. Loved the emotion. I mean, not that anybody's, like, we all knew Stephanie was going to get in the Hall of Fame at some point for WWE, right? She's so deserving of it. but I did not think it was going to happen tonight. When The Undertaker first came out, and he's talking to Stephanie, nowhere, anywhere, did anybody think this is a Hall of Fame announcement. No, I had a different thought entirely. Yeah, we know. I had no idea what was going on. Congratulations to Stephanie. Yes. Looking forward to all the festivities in Vegas.
1:09:31And if there is, now that we put it out in the atmosphere, if there is sort of a thought of like, aside from this as like okay like we're done to like if there is a position to like put undertaker in dx at some point that could also be we're doing big things in wwe right now we're all about the moment so that could be a cool thing as well this is about stephanie all right we don't need no we i'm just saying because it was two separate i don't want to one doesn't overshadow the other but it just also could be cool uh we're gonna see so much fallout from this show not just that But so much fallout from this show with Heyman, especially after we saw him in here.
1:10:09He almost destroyed our whole studio, by the way. He had to bring it up again. That whole group did. But he's going to be on Raw. He's going to be on Raw, and I'm anxious to see what he's going to be saying, what he's going to be doing on Monday Night Raw. Of course, we're going to be there to recap the whole thing. Make sure that you're subscribed across all audio platforms, Apple, Spotify, to the Recap Podcast. Make sure you're watching on YouTube. leaving comments, hitting like, and we will see you right after Monday Night Raw to figure out where we are in a post-Wrestlepalooza world.
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