Six Feet Under - Bruce Prichard talks Undertaker’s debut & creating Kane

30:20Get back up. Do this. Do it again. And I'm like. Are you sure I wasn't doing dusty at the time? Living dead man, get your ass back up there. Get in the same place. Do it again. In my mind, I was doing dusty. No, no, no, no. Get back up there. Get back up there. I probably was screaming. And then it came out on TV. It was perfect. It was perfect. So that all happens. I calmed down from that. I'm a little high. My ampage is a little high after falling off the rope. And come on, get ready. Let's go. We got to go to Atlanta. I'm like, all right, all right. I'm like, let's just go, right? Well, we wanted to get there before the bar closed.

30:57We always wanted to get there before last call. I mean, we had priorities and motivation. We'd get there before last call. So I am still in full Undertaker regalia. I don't know if you – I think you got your paint off. Well, I had just taken the washcloth and just washed my face real quick, but I still had the pinkish hue, and I still had makeup around. My hair was still slicked back, and I had the red shirt. I think I still had my suit on, but like a leather jacket. Yeah, it was cold. Yeah. I remember it was cold. But you were just fresh out. It smeared his makeup because he had the dark under the eyes and everything.

31:41So that just made it darker and more menacing. So as menacing as you were, it was even worse. It was like, oh, my God. And you were driving. I was driving. Ford Taurus. It's funny because back then, we didn't have GPS and all that back then. This was before. We had Rand McNally. That's it. We had the map. So we get twisted up in Chattanooga, and we are definitely in the wrong part of town. Yes, we were. And we haven't seen an interstate sign. There's not really much. there wasn't much life out anywhere. Everything's dark. Yeah, there were a few dead bodies. Yeah. It probably wouldn't have took much to find a body land somewhere.

32:31We finally come up on this this convenience store that was at a, it was on the corner. Yeah. And it was this, but it was so, remember how far back? It was set way far back. Like this whole, most of it was just parking lot. Yes. And I roll into this parking lot. Do you want to go? I gotta go well because the guy was closest to me guy's walking out I rolled it down the window excuse me buddy excuse me excuse me help us out here a little bit and the guy comes on now all he sees is me he sees the chubby cheek red face guy with his hair all slicked back and everything he comes up and he's grabbing parts of his crotchal area crotchal Crotchal.

33:21Yeah. Is crotchal a word? I think so. Crotchal area. Yeah. Crotchal area. Crotchal area. Crotchal area. All one word. I got you. And was a little bit threatening about what he could do for us and what it might cost us to get this information out of him. And as he gets closer to the car and, you know, looks like he might be, I don't know if he's reaching for something or not. Nobody really knows because somebody sitting next to me literally does the sit up because for him to drive, you got to imagine this, okay? For him to drive a Taurus, he's got the seat. He's basically laying down in the car like this so that he can even fit and drive.

34:11So when he does the sit up, he sits up and boom, and shoots that head and shoots a look at the guy. And the guy takes his hand out of his pocket and backpedals and is almost falling down and looks in there and he goes, oh, shit, man. Dude, what's wrong with that dude? He looks like he just killed somebody. He goes, all right, hey, man, what y 'all need to do is you need to go down here two blocks, you're going to take a right, you're going to go down and take your neck left and the highway is right there, man. Y 'all need to get the fuck out of here, man. I'm out of here. And he was backpedaling and all.

34:43Didn't say a word. Nothing. Didn't say a word. Just shot that look, man. Those eyes went through him and that dark eyes and everything. And scared to death. Just became helpful as can be. Guess what? We went down. Turn left. Turn left. Turn left. Boom. We were on the interstate. Headed to Atlanta. We were three blocks from the interstate. That's so funny. But we had been driving around in circles. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Get him out of here. Go. We don't like you people in our neighborhood. you're scary you just kill somebody it was terrifying just the town that's the only thing I ever killed were towns a few of those I've killed territories that's true that's probably true yeah so you kicked me out you kicked me out you being Paul Bear in which I'm kind of grateful for that I found your brother yeah but before that so you gotta go back to being the office stooge and producer producer i that was a fraud and slip that yeah yeah the other part was like a hefay stooge oh hefay stooge so here we go he went there i did go there you did um do you do you remember i know you remember what the shoots that used to make me go do the vignettes oh my god i've heard about these but those were great oh they came out great they were fun oh they were anything but fun.

36:11They were fun. Kamala's casket. Well, remember, there was Kamala's casket. I still have the blueprint of Kamala's coffin. I've got it as well. And in some Bethlehem or wherever the hell we were, we had to go out and do that. That was fun in the freezing cold. I wanted to see his breath. I said, I want to see your breath. and so he's like really we can't have any heaters or snow it's got to be cold we do it's got to be cold so that every time you speak i see the breath and i says so more you can breathe in get that cold in there so see you and he and paul bear are freezing to death and they're cursing me because i'm i mean i'm watching the monitor i'm producing i've got a heat layer yeah oh yeah i'm in gimmick i'm in my gimmick yeah you're layered so he had a big coat on huh no i mean spandex i mean no it's not big it was big but the material was a little bit thin we might have had to spritz his head often a little bit yeah just to get the look look yeah keep the look yeah consistent consistent that was great flesh freezing flesh freezing that was after the rumble in 93 yeah Yeah, put him out in the middle.

37:35That's when I ascended out of the... I only had one night with him to get all this stuff done. Got it done, though. We did get it done. Weeks and weeks of vignettes. Yes. In flesh-freezing winds. Like how many hours? Like literally all night? That one we started probably about 10 or 11. No, later than that because we left after a show. So probably about 1130 at night, and we went until 5, 6 in the morning easily. And the only heat was to go in the car in between takes. The budget then was not what it is to this day. I would go out and take it as long as I could possibly take it, and then I'd have to go get in your car.

38:22It was his car, which was a sports car, like a little – The Talon, Eagle Talon. Eagle Talon or something like that. So I am in there, and I would just start to thaw out. All right, we're ready. Oh, my God. You didn't know if it was good to warm up and then go back out in the cold. Or make it worse. Or it made it worse. It was absolute misery. So I have this vision, and I want to see him in the middle of the cemetery, and I want to do a snap zoom and it's like, but you've got to see that it's snowing like crazy and that he's just placed in the middle of this cemetery. In order to accomplish that, you've got to place him there.

39:14Then we had to brush and move all the snow so that it's smooth so you don't see the footprints going out there. Yeah. Cool shot. Very cool shot. Just took a little while to get there. Just a little cold. And he can't move. So he's like Clint Eastwood. He's standing there just, you got it yet? Hang on, baby. We're almost there. And he's just standing there. And Paul Bearer's pissed. You're ripping him now, Bruce. I'm not ripping him. Look, I've got to get this shot. I've got to do here. I've got to pull out. I've got to do this. and um that was some cool shit and then you tried to sell me on it again i that was cool shit so and then because we did we did great cemetery stuff i loved going to cemeteries and that particular cemetery because that one was in new york that cemetery either after that shoot shortly thereafter my assistant came in and showed me the front page of the stanford newspaper that cemetery had been accused of stacking bodies.

40:25And they found them. And this guy would dig holes for us. He would let us go in mausoleums. Everything. And they... It's true. Yeah. They would just stack. And then once the family, they knew the family was gone, they'd get rid of that headstone and sell it to another family. Sure, we got room. Don't worry about it. We got plenty of room. We got plenty of dirt. And then the

40:58Mankind And I had to do point-counterpoint So it was a Buried-alive match, right? Yep And we had That was in Fairfield And we had the hole dug And it starts to rain And everybody's like, oh god We're going to have to Do this some other time No! This is beautiful, man And you know how much this would cost to do in Hollywood? To have a rainy, stormy night in the middle of a cemetery? And we kept shooting. And bought Paul Bear a new suit that night. But the best thing that came out of that was mankind doing his deal. And he slipped and fell into the hole. Like legit? Legit. And I was like, keep going, keep going, keep going.

41:46And that's where when he got in the hole, he realized. and he didn't do the line. I said, stay there. I'm going to do a reset. I said, when you get down there, I said, I want to be on top of you and I want you to look up and go, Paul, this hole's too short for the undertaker. It's like, it fits me. It won't fit him. That's good stuff. No, hey, you've got to love the finished product, but I'm just talking about the misery of having to do it. Like, now you go and do a shoot. You got your trailers. You got catering. We had my car. Yeah, we had your car and a bag of chips. I think it was about, that was catering.

42:29Yeah. I used to have beer, too. And Jack, and yeah. Yeah, but by the time you got time where you could actually have it, you were so miserably cold and frozen that you didn't want it. That's true. But still. I think we drank the beer, but. We did. And then Leslie Nielsen. We had a good time. Leslie Nielsen. Oh, my gosh. Leslie Nielsen. That was. Okay, that's one of those we can't talk about. No, I think you can. Okay, good. So, Leslie, remember what we did with Leslie in Bridgeport? When we went to dinner? And then after dinner. What did we do? So, there was a gentleman's establishment in Bridgeport, Connecticut.

43:08They made me go, baby. Where the only thing. They made me go. I didn't want to go. The chicken wings are good. He hadn't been there. I'd never been there. No, he hadn't been there. Yeah. But Ed Cohen. Ed Cohen. God rest his soul. And we had talked about this place. The only thing that the entertainers wore were knee pads. And that intrigued the hell out of Leslie Nielsen. That would intrigue. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah. And so Leslie. Okay. So we've talked about this. And Leslie says to us after the Japanese restaurant about this place where the entertainers just wear knee pads. And we went. And we lost Leslie that night.

43:50No. He was great, though. So that was the first night that I met him, right? Yeah, because I'd taken off. I'd already spent four nights with him every night. Right, so you were well aware. He had this gimmick that he had the fart gimmick. In his hand. In his hand. Or he would put it in his, like we go to this Japanese restaurant, right? This nice, like, hibachi-type restaurant where all the waitresses and everything are Japanese, but they're also in the white face with the kimonos on. This is like a nice place. And he's making them fart all the time? Yeah. So we sit down, and the waitresses come in, and then it's loud enough that you can't not hear it, right?

44:44And you can't not sell. But it's also not gimmicky either. No, it doesn't sound like it sounds legit. It like sounds legit. And then he blames it on the waitress. Right. And these are like, you know, the Japanese are very proper. Very proper. And he's like looking at her like. And she's like, no, no, no, no. It was you. Oh, I don't know how many. Yeah. Oh, it was. He would take pictures and hit the fart right on the... That's funny. Oh, it was... He was great. He was so funny. Yeah. He was fun to go out with. Yeah, he was a good time. He could drink. He could drink, and he was old school for sure.

45:31Those were good times. And then... Well, hey, I'm warm and I'm eating. There you go. One of my favorite things was we had a black tie affair. And they had to go to a black tie fair. In character. Vince wanted people in character or their black tie to reflect their character. And so this one wants to get a tux. And it's like, what else do you need a tux for? He's always in black tie. Oh, it's so embarrassing. in. He had to wear his gimmick to the Lieutenant Governor's Ball honoring Linda McMahon. I remember you telling me that. I wish there were pictures. You have pictures? I have pictures. We need pictures.

46:20We need pictures. Everyone is dead. I mean, that's when like, who? That was Rudy Giuliani Giuliani that I was committed beat up. Yeah. Yeah. He's marking on the business and like I was not in the mood to hear his bullshit. Was it the outfit? just in general just in general wrestling in general and I'm already you're already in a mad mood because of your outfit you look good you were in black tie I was in full on Undertaker regalia Paul Bearer is dressed like Paul Bearer Sergeant Slaughter has got a camouflage tux on with his DI hat on looking nice and everybody else is just macked. Boom. I mean, custom fit.

47:11And here we are, like the freaking circus sitting there. And Vince and Linda, of course, are sitting up at the main table next to the Shrivers and all the bigwigs. And then there's the table of the wrestling people. The misfits. And we lived up to that name on that evening. I love it. And we had, remember we got the - at Vince. Was that you? I don't know. He doesn't remember that. I don't recall that. You recall everything. I recall. We got a big thing of vodka, big thing of Jack, and then a couple cases of beer and just had it all underneath the table because they stopped serving alcohol once you went into the main deal.

47:58And I was like, I don't care what it takes. You need a bottle of Jack. need a bottle of vodka and a ton of Coors Light. And so we're hiding it at first but then the more you consume the less you care. There's no room under the table and we're just putting everything on the table and he's just drinking out of the bottle now. And Vodkalina's cat is making his vodka tonics and everything. That's great. And then somebody Somebody might have thrown a roll at Vince on the main table. Did somebody hit Vince with the roll? The elevated table. Maybe. We're all down. The peasants are all down here. And the nobles are up top.

48:43And the nobles are at the top. And somebody. Have good aim? Hmm. Did he have good aim? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Oh, you could tell he had good aim by the look on Linda's face. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Lordy. Y 'all were in trouble. Yeah. I mean, we forgot about it. She didn't. No, they did. She didn't know. She was mortified. I bet. And I said he did it. Yeah, he did it. It would make sense. But see, if he did it, then there would be no heath. Okay. It's okay then. Yeah. Because he was a golden boy. Gold angel baby. Oh, a golden boy. I don't think I was the golden boy. You were the golden boy. You were always the golden boy.

49:21I don't think I was. You could do no wrong. I think I could. Commit murder, but do no wrong.

49:28First man. The first man. Yeah. You're the favorite. I'm not the favorite. You're the favorite. No, I'm not the favorite. You're the favorite. He's the favorite. Just saying. Let's backtrack, man. Let's go. So I grew up, obviously, we both did, in Houston. When did you actually get in with Paul? I was selling posters when I was 10 years old, 1973. What does that make you, like 78? What is that? So I'm two years older than you. Oh, 48, 47. Yeah, something like that. 47, okay. Yeah, something like that.

50:13And how I got the steady gig was we were given four posters to go sell in the crowd, and we got 25 cents per poster that we sold. I went out and sold my four posters, came back, got more, went out and sold more, came back, got more, said take them four. I took eight, then took like big handfuls. And I made$12 that night. The other kids, if they even sold one, I don't think anybody sold more than one, but I went everywhere and sold the stuff. So then next week they said, why don't we put you in the ring? And then people will know where to come. You're in the middle of the ring during intermission, before the show, they come down and get posters.

50:58And that's when I learned a very important business lesson in the wrestling business, was when I went to the ring, opportunity for people to see you, you get plugs, and people come down and get posters because they know what you have. You sell more. So now that you're selling more, they cut my commission down to a dime. with the rationale being we've got you in prime position you're going to make so much more money this way yeah but I'd make more money still in the same amount it was still a quarter promoters but I was happy to be in the ring and stuff and you were 10? 10 years old so kid just had my little poster box up there had the poster displays and all this stuff.

51:49The ring announcer, Boyd Pierce. Flashy dresser. Flashy, great dresser. Yeah. And he would do 20 pictures for a dollar. And he would promote his stuff. And this was the other thing that this happened when I was probably about 12, maybe 13. I would get mad at Boyd because Boyd would plug his stuff. And I said, and the kid's got some posters over here for a dollar. I said, come on, man. And I was like, can you get a better plug? Oh, yeah, the kid's got posters over here. And so he threw me the microphone. Oh, no. This is what you do. Oh, Lord. And I did. The origins. There's the origins right there.

52:28And I did. And I said, I went on, and I said, well, thank you, Boyd. I said, that's a great deal over here because Boyd's got 20 pictures in a pack, 20 small postcard-sized pictures in a pack for a dollar. I said, but I've got one giant poster with over 23 stars on one giant poster for only$1. And Boyd was like, nicely done, kid. And Peter Burr calls, Paul's nephew came down and said, did I just hear Bruce on the PA? He says, yeah, he did good. And then they let me do it from then on. Wow. And then 14 announced. You were announcing at 14? Boyd missed a show. You took Boyd's job. For a night. And my first thing, I asked everybody to stand for the playing of our natural anthem.

53:26Natural. The natural anthem. And then the first person I introduced was Tora Tanaka from Yakahoma, Japan. Yakahoma. Yeah. So it wasn't a splendorous night. You had to be growing pains. Fourteen, though. Yeah. So when did you get into, and I don't mean this directly, office, when did you start helping Paul? So Tom had taken pictures, and then Tom became like the assistant director of the television show, and then when Tom started playing football, Tom couldn't make every Friday night. So I would do that job. Consisted of giving cues to Paul for the commercials, sitting next to him at ringside, and you would tell him what commercial to throw to in breaks.

54:19So it also, you had to time out the show. That's where I learned how to add time. So that was from 12. We always went to the office during the summers. Once Tom could drive, he worked summers there. Then when he graduated, when I got my driver's license, I worked the summers there. And then afterwards, just worked in the office. 1919, the corner of Caroline and Pierce. 1919, Caroline on the corner of Pierce. Downtown Houston, open each day of the week, Monday through Friday, 9 in the morning until 4 in the afternoon. Tickets and information were available during that time. Awesome. Yeah. It's not there anymore.

54:56It's a parking lot. St. Joe parking lot. I drove by it. Yeah, not long ago. Yeah, not long ago. We were going somewhere. Football or something. And we were down there. Because I was actively looking for it when I saw Caroline. I was like, oh, man, the old office is here. So sad. Yeah. That was my life. That was a big part of it. That's it. So you were already with Vince when Vince started buying out everybody, right? So I left Watts and Houston in 1987 when Jim Crockett bought Mid-South UWF. So I'd worked for Paul until 87. And then Eddie Gilbert came up and met with Vince and said, are you interested?

55:43And I was at a place in my life where I was 24 years old. I wanted to do more than just Houston, Texas. And I never thought in a million years that they'd want me. And he said, call Vince. I called him, and he says, you'd have to move to Stanford. I said, no problem. I didn't even know where Stanford was. You didn't know. I had no clue. And I kid you not, talking about Rand McNally, after that call, I took out my giant Rand McNally. Kids, okay, Rand McNally, it's a map. It's a book. It's paper. And they have lines on it that tell you the interstates and how to get from place to place. I had to look up Stanford, Connecticut.

56:31Go in the key. The key? The key. I forgot about the key on the side. Yeah. What the hell? Like, it's way up north there, folks. Far from Houston. They don't talk like you do either. No, they don't. They got a funny accent. They do have funny accents up there. They do, right? Yeah. They don't talk regular like you and me. Right. They don't know how to say y 'all. No. I don't even know what they say other than y 'all. I can't. What do y 'all say other than y 'all? They're probably proper. Do you say you all? You guys. You guys. You guys. You guys. You guys. That is so Yankee, man. You guys. That is so Yankee.

57:10Hey, you guys. That's rude. Y 'all. Y 'all sounds friendly. I don't know how you survived up there so long. I mean, I know you had a break, but that's a couple. I was trying to stay away from all that. Oh, well, yeah. But since we're there, since we're there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you left me. No, you kind of left. I was still there. I haven't left yet. I've been here. You kicked me out the door. No. It was him? Yeah. No, it was not. Dang. It's my story. That didn't happen on my watch, brother. I think it did. Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah, I've been there a while. Business has changed considerably. A little bit.

57:55From my WWE run to where it is now. Al Jefe. Al Jefe. What about WWE? Yeah. That is WWE though, right? It is. You too. We're just jogging your memory. It is WWE. Triple A, Jefe. Oh, yeah. See? See? Do not edit any of this shit out. No, por favor. Or CBN, as she said. I can't work like this. Yeah. Okay. Harsh conditions. But think about all the incarnations from the, I can't say it, the pirate, pirate taker. Okay. One of my better. That wasn't one of my better. No. No. The descending from the garden. The bat wings. There's a picture of you and I with you. He's hanging with his bat wings in the little pirate thing.

59:05And he's just hanging like this. And I'm looking up at you and I'm like, and I'm animated and talking to you. And the look of disgust on your face. Your feet are right above my head. And I'm like, but Mark, this is going to be great. And yeah. But that was your idea. It was my idea. I know. It was my idea. And when I envisioned it, it was the coolest thing. We all envision it cool. Yeah, right? Yes. But then when you're just sitting there like, oh, yeah. Yeah, this isn't really as cool as I thought it was going to be. Okay. I thought I was going to look like a giant dragon. Like, not so much. I look like a big pirate with bat wings.

59:57Bat wings. With wings. Yeah. But the incarnations of your character, too, were a lot of fun to move along. And when you found out you had a brother and Paul Bear diddled your mom and all that stuff. You can't say diddled. Why can't you say diddled? You can say diddled. You can't say diddled. You can say diddled. It's my mom. We said it on air. Diddled. We said diddled. We said diddled on air. I can't wait to explain that one. Oh, yes. I remember. Mama Taker. Oh, Lord. I remember him and Lawler, right? In the dressing room. It was him and Lawler. Yes. And we put the camera like it was laid down.

1:00:47And it was like it caught on like a hot mic kind of a deal. Oh gosh I do remember that Oh she screamed She was a screamer that one Oh yes I'm glad my mom didn't really watch this That was creation Kane

1:01:07Kane was created in that diddle Oh wait That little diddle or whatever This is getting way worse This is nothing that we didn't Explain on television You all said little diddle? Oh, yeah, he did say diddle. Diddle diddle. He diddled Taker's mama. Oh, my goodness. Can you say diddle in this day? We did. Yes, we can. Of course you can. Yes, you can say diddle. Why can't you say diddle? Diddle seems more. Kind of fiddle diddle, you know. I don't know. I never, like, I used, I think we did. Okay. And you can do it still? I just did. Twice. You did? Well, this. Several times, really. Nobody watches this.

1:01:50Oh, okay. Diddle diddle. I'm just curious. I want to try and talk somebody into saying diddle on a promo now. Yeah, no, you can. You definitely can. It all made sense to me. Kane's creation, everything. It's a great story I've ever told. You needed an opponent. That was a good story. You got one. So he went through as many incarnations as you did. And he's got some doozies in his closet. Well, look at his brother. Christmas creature. Yeah, absolutely. Isaac Yankum. Isaac Yankum. Yeah. The fact that he rebounded from Isaac Yankum. The fact that he rebounded from fake diesel. Oh, fake diesel. I forgot.

1:02:38Yeah. Yeah. That one we almost had to send him away for good. I don't know if he can come back. I don't know if he can come back from that one. Yeah. Yeah, that was a bad one. That was a bad one. But it was all because of you, because you just needed an opponent. Well, I did need an opponent. You did. And Mama did. And originally he was only going to be a one-off, right? It was a one-off. They brought him in. It was a one-off. It was too good. Yeah, that was really good. And then once we found out that you set the fire, and he really set the fire, but it was you that thought you set the fire. Killed your Mama, your Daddy, your Brother.

1:03:14No more diddling. Yeah. I would appreciate that. The diddler was still alive, Paul Bearer. Okay, so there could be diddling, just not with the diddly. He just wasn't diddling the diddly. With the diddly. So no more brothers. Got it. The brother did. Gone. He gone. He gone. He gone. But he came back. But he came back. He came back. Yeah. Yeah. So I get the mayor on the phone for me. he won't answer he won't take my call he'll take mine but he ain't gonna take your call actually he will yeah he actually will you'll see who he takes first you'll try you'll both dial up see who he answers daytime see if he answers FaceTime see if he FaceTimes well I'm my phone's way over there we can get it I don't have mine either we can get it I hit him oh I know what it was the Buford Pussler Rumors I hit Kane with a text saying that is mayor of Knoxville that you need to dispel these horrid rumors about Buford Pusser.

1:04:26and uh and he's he's like all serious at first and then i'm going no you need it and then he realized that I was... Messing with him? Yeah. As usual? No, not as usual. No, I always go into a conversation with you or anytime you call me, like I'm already guard up. And then you have then I have to decipher whether or not that you're being serious. Y 'all should both text him, hey, call me at the same time and see who he calls. I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, whatever. Hang on. Okay, wait a minute. Hang on, I got it. I need them these days too. Mine are over there. This is wrong. So many levels.

1:05:11I got to figure out what I... What do you have in store does? Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. We got to do it at the same time. I know. Hang on. No cheating. Okay, hang on. Yeah, no cheating. I got to get him up here.

1:05:32Guys, y 'all good? Hmm? Are y 'all good? I'm checking my email. Hey Siri, text mayor. Me too, right? Okay. Who's this guy who keeps calling me? H-H-H. Dude, me too. What? Me too. What is that? Who is that? I don't know. My boss. Okay. Are we doing FaceTime? Are we going to see a few FaceTimes? you're supposed to be texting him to say hey call me no is that what we're doing we're texting I was just going to call him we're playing that game I lost him wait a minute what's happening wait you know what you can't I don't think he doesn't have a he's got one of those other phones I hear it ringing did you call Bruce that's bullshit How are you?

1:06:29You're on speakerphone. And I'm doing the Undertaker's podcast. Glenn, hang up. And we made a bet as to who could get you to pick up. Oh. And you picked me up. The Lord didn't call. Yeah, well, see? He doesn't even know how. See there? He cheats. I don't know why I ever did. He called out and picked it up. But not if you'd seen me calling at the same time. Come on, man. If I'd seen you both call at the same time, I'd pick up his. Thank you. Thank you. Only because you would know that we were together. No. No. It's an election year, Mayor. Whatever, Bruce. Hi, how are you? We were just literally talking about you on the podcast, and I was talking about Paul Bearer diddling y 'all's mom.

1:07:26That's so bad See and it's an election here and there you go Right I would never have done that to you I would have never done that to you Yeah I'm used to a gum from Bruce Easy whoa all this gets edited out The best But you remember when Paul diddled your mama And told that story on TV Stop already with it I remember taking a blood test See And you actually made me take a real life and it was because of you. Oh my gosh. It needed to be real. Well, it was. You got to have credibility. And they call us evil. I mean, it's typical for you, Bruce, you're a blood sucker. That's just rude. Hey, Glenn.

1:08:16Glenn, I love you. And thank you for picking it up. I love you guys too. If Mark had called, I'd have answered his phone. Thank you, brother. He did call and you answered mine. Well, you see your office so yours always takes... Boom, there you go. Hey Glenn, he's el jefe de Mexico. I know, but isn't it cool? Is that cool? El jefe de Mexico. Glenn's got to go. He's got a town to run. He's got a city he's got to run. Good to talk to you. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Bye-bye. You cheat. How'd I cheat? You cheat. If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. That was pretty good. Yeah. He went with the old distraction.

1:09:00How'd I cheat? Bro. You said, let's FaceTime him. I said, okay, let's see who he answers. Boom. I could hear the phone. I'm still trying to assess that. And I could hear your phone ringing over there. I could see. That's funny. Told you he'd answer. Mayor always, I can't wear glasses on here. Man. Can't see. Did you put glasses on for you? Huh? Did you put glasses on? I don't need glasses. That's why it took him so long. He couldn't see. I'm done with you already today. I need my glasses too. You've been on me all day today. Hey. I'm about done with you. Bruce, help me out. I'm not done with you.

1:09:40Thank you. El jefe. He's going to. El jefe. My car, El jefe de Mexico. Jefe? What? Señorita de Mexico. De jefe. See. All right. Hey, thanks for making it. I know you've got to get going. Now you're done with you. Now he's hot. Don't you have a show to do or something? No, now I'm doing this. Okay, all right. Here we go. You scared? I ain't scared. You look scared. I ain't scared. I'm not scared. I'm scared. I was a little scared. You're scared to say you're scared. I would say I was scared. Okay. I'm done with you, though. Okay. I'm five hot. Remember that night in Nuevo Laredo? anyway folks

1:10:25Nueva Laredo I don't know they tell me I was there one week I spent a week there once yeah something like that see now all these guys they were like oh you guys are going to tell a bunch of car ride stories I can't remember those I don't remember no me neither that's been a long time ago either one of y 'all Yeah, no. I mean, I think we told the only one that was really tellable. Come on. Yeah, that's really the only one that was – that's probably the most homogenized one we've got. Homogenized. That time we did come back from Mexico with all that damn contraband in the trunk. Oh, yeah. Well, there was that night.

1:11:07There was that night. There was a night in Montreal. That was – Montreal. Yeah, we won't touch on that. What's wrong with you? What is wrong with you? A lot. I know. A lot. A lot. When you wouldn't speak to me in Montreal, you're mad at me. Why were you mad at him? No. Look at him. Listen to him. Is there any doubt why I'm always mad at him? He was mad at me and he wouldn't talk to me. He was pouting? Oh, yeah. Why? Big pouting. Big pouting. Big pouting. Yeah. Oh, that Montreal. Yeah. Oh, that Montreal. That Montreal. Yeah, man, that was bad. What happened? He was mad at me. You ever heard Montreal Screwjob?

1:11:49Oh, that Montreal. Oh. Oh. So, okay, that's the story we could tell, actually. Because there are two sides. It's been told a lot. Okay, but not, okay, there's different sides to this, though. So, Montreal, Brett versus Sean, Survivor Series. Yeah. You were off TV. I was. But you were there. I was there. So, what do you do when you're there? Sitting next to me at Gorilla. Yeah. All night, sits next to me at Gorilla. Last match, Sean versus Brett. We did these walk shots all backstage, which we didn't do a lot of back then, but we did them for special matches. I tell him, say, hey, you need to leave because you're going to do this shot.

1:12:38Once I get in the ring, we're good. I needed to leave. So he leaves. He doesn't come back. so everything takes place out in the ring i'm there sitting duck just i i don't know what's going on watch everything happen did not know you didn't know anything i know okay okay oh i'm getting you big boy and uh everything everything happens and i'm pissed because i don't know right everybody comes back and i'm walking back and i go back towards where vince's office is. There's a giant red-headed basketball player with his arms crossed staring daggers at me. And I look at him and he looks at me and I'm like going, you knew.

1:13:30I didn't know. Okay. And you look at me and he looks at me and he looks at me and like, Like, you knew, and you sent me away. And I'm looking at him going like, you knew, and you're guarding Vince's office. Big boy? Yes. So there were two sides to this. I thought you knew. I did not know. 100 % did not know at all. That is wild. You went down to the dressing room. I went to Vince's office. than... For the record, I was not guarding. For the record, I didn't send you away for that. I thought you were going to come back and join me. So now, there's the misunderstanding there. Clearly. And so now we come back.

1:14:26And actually, this is one of the coolest things I've probably ever seen. It was the only cool thing in the moment that night. was when we entered the dressing room, the only people that were allowed in the dressing room were those that were in the match, and you, me. I think Aria was there, and Shane. Shane, Jerry, and Pat. Yeah. No, Pat wasn't there. Pat was not there. Sarge was there. So, but we go in, Ken Shamrock is coming out, and guys, Ken Shamrock went to Vince and said, you need me to stay, boss? And cool hand Luke over here goes, get your bag, get out. And went by and there were people sitting in the locker room and says, get your stuff, get out.

1:15:15Get your stuff, get out. And there were no questions asked. They all got out. So now the next day, it's a little heated, a little tense. Somebody's not showing up. We had a basketball game to play. You got a basketball game to play So now Coming through the door Late It was late I thought you said wet Because you may have been at that point But it was like You kind of kicked in the door a little bit You made yourself known that you were there A little dramatic entrance Very dramatic entrance So he walks up And it was me Jack Lanza

1:16:05I don't know if Vince was there yet but you shook Jack's hand and I stuck my hand out and he just stared at me

1:16:15and then Vince came up and he stuck his hand out and you just stared at him didn't shake his hand Vince walked away and I said you and I need to go talk he said I don't think I have anything to say to you and then we went and we sat down where they had the bleachers and stuff backstage. We sat down, and he just starts in. You knew, and you set me up, and you sent me away, and blah, blah, blah, blah. I said, you were guarding Vince's office. I said, what are you talking about? I had to go away, so I went to Vince's office so I could eat his catering. That's why I ended up in Vince's office. So, yeah, then we both felt kind of stupid.

1:16:59It sounded like a big old mess. He was mean to me. Michelle, he was mean to me. I believe that. You were. There's two sides to every story. This is true. Two sides. Yeah, there's two. The right side?

1:17:14Theoretically, we were both on the same side. We were. It was a misunderstanding. We both thought the other one knew. And I don't think anybody trusted anybody at that point. Oh, I bet. And with everything going on. It was pretty tense. It was pretty tense. It was pretty tense. Yeah. Pretty tense. Then we kissed him made up and everything was good. He's a good kisser, by the way. Yeah, he is. I can attest to that. Why? Why did you have to throw that in there? What? Like you'd exclamated the story. But he didn't say diddle. At least he said kissing. You had to take it somewhere that just makes people really disturbed.

1:17:50Not in today's world. No. They're not. Well, this is not this degenerate group. Yeah, nobody's disturbed. I'm glad they stopped doing drugs while we did this. Wow. You promised me. You said, hey, you want to do my show? Will you quit talking so much? What? Geez. I thought that's what you do on these things. No, not this one. That's mine? Yeah, you know, you just push the button. Something to wrestle with, Bruce Prichard. Do not edit that out either. Yes, I'm back, folks. No, your podcast doesn't have heat with me at all. Okay, good. You do that all by yourself? I do it with Conrad Thompson. Well, yeah, I know.

1:18:29But I do it all by myself. No guests needed. Yeah. I need guests. We need guests. Well, I can't remember. I can't remember. I can remember certain things and certain hazy things. And I don't even know that it's because I'm punchy, really. You're disconnected. What? What? There was one? Something got disconnected. Twice. Same night. Oh, Lordy. You know the other thing that you did to me one time? What? Maybe drink pickle juice and Jack. Ew. I do kind of, that does ring a bell. And you remember I threw up all over you. I think it was more the amount of Jack that you may have drunken before the pickle juice.

1:19:18But why did you combine the two? Somebody wanted to do the pickle juice. Do you have cramps? No, somebody wanted to do pickle juice and Jack shots. So I don't I hate pickles As much as he hates cucumbers I hate pickles Do you eat cucumbers? I will eat cucumbers And you'll eat pickles This makes zero sense guys He'll eat pickles but I won't Well no The cucumber thing's a little weird Who's talking? So they did the pickle juice thing And I go Guys I'm gonna throw up And him and DiBiase Held me and had me hooked at the bar And then they Poured the pickle juice And the jack I was like alright came right back up threw up all over him can't handle your jack and pickle juice sure can but I told you I warned you that's it and he choked me out on the dance floor one time on the dance floor you choked me out on the dance floor one time dang no he choked me out one time wow why on the dance floor Why were we on a dance floor together?

1:20:24I don't know. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. It was a fog night. To get him on a dance floor. All I remember was being helped up on the floor, really. Might have been somebody else. After you were choked out? You helped me out. Maybe it was I helped you out. So maybe somebody else choked you out. Maybe somebody else choked you out. East St. Louis? Maybe. Were Samoans involved? I think so. Oh, yeah. Like a big one?

1:20:54I think it was East St. Louis. Now it's coming back to me. Keep talking. East St. Louis, the bar that Haku and everybody got in trouble in. Yep, yep, yep. Right? Not same night. No, no, no, no. This was the first time that we had gone back there, and this had been years. Yeah. This was the first time. This was actually a calm night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's all coming back to me. It was Sammy, Samu. Samu. Yeah. It was Yoko that choked me. No, was it Yoko that choked you? because Samu was just going up to random people and choking him out. I thought it was Yoko. I think it was Sammy. Yeah, may have been.

1:21:30Yes, I'm almost positive now. Just random people? Yes. Well, us. They were marks, but are like fans, and they were like, none of that shit's real. He was like, watch this. And then, yeah, he would rear naked choke him, and out they would go and wake him up. they were like, I told you it was not real. But why you? You're not random. Bruce was being Bruce. You were doing random things. Bruce was being Bruce, and then the next thing you know, Bruce was waking up. Now this is falling off the rails. Now this is falling off. No, no, no, no, no. That's all coming back to me now. East St. Louis was rough.

1:22:14Back then, especially. And especially this particular bar. Yeah, it was It was one of those crazy nights.

1:22:25Maybe I'll just leave it there with you being choked out right on the dance floor. Yeah. I remember you helping me out. I do remember that. I can't leave you on the dance floor, man. Yeah, no. Yeah. I actually remember going out and then, hey! What the hell? I'm sorry. You don't have the little phone things and quiet outside? No, man. You don't have it in my studio? We're low rent, man. You're on the tracks right now. You're on the tracks of podcasting. You know what Ample Man is? Who? You know what Ample Man is? Anybody know what Ample Man is in Germany? In Germany? In Germany, yeah. It's the walk and do not walk signs, and they're green and red.

1:23:12I'm shortening this story up big time. But anyway, I have two of those. And so my house and my office, I have a Go Ample Man green and a red Ample Man on the outside door. And I have a remote control in my inner studio office that I hit. And if it's red, nobody can come that side of the house. Wow. Y 'all need that here. Next level. I need that at home. You do. Same. You do. I'm going to call you this week. Okay. Ample Man. Germany. Ample Man. Ample Man. Yeah. East and West Berlin. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. And I left with Amplman. Oh. This is a goddamn history lesson here, man. I know.

1:23:56People are going, oh, boy, that's gone off the rails. What the hell are they talking about? But everybody's going to look it up, too. When you said Germany, I just naturally, I just started thinking about London and SummerSlam 92. I wasn't there. You weren't there? No, I wasn't even there. Wasn't that Why was you not there? I wasn't there You and I had a hell of a night in Berlin one night Was that the night Flair danced on the bar? In the hard rock?

1:24:28Maybe

1:24:32It was our first No man It was great Because Mark and I are trying to stay out of trouble So we would go So this is really, we're trying to stay out of it. We'd stay together and we'd get in trouble by ourselves. Yes. But no witnesses. No witnesses, yes. And we would get away from the trouble. And we walk out of the trouble starting into a couple guys on the street in a fight. Yes. Like right at our feet. I was like, what the? Why us? and then we took a taxi one time in Johannesburg to the Hard Rock Cafe in Johannesburg. Except there was no Hard Rock Cafe in Johannesburg. But it was a cafe called the Hard Rock Cafe and they did have jackets and t-shirts, but they weren't real.

1:25:27Yes, it was not the real Hard Rock Cafe. And we're looking at each other going, fuck, are we done? We had a few of those. So I really have always wondered, what is your favorite Undertaker narrative? What storyline? There are so many that were great, but I think for longevity and the most fun that I had, it's got to be the whole Kane story. Yeah. Because I can still remember the day of just riffing these silly ideas of, and again, selfishly, wanting to get the name Kane back in the mix. But, like I said, why I enjoyed that so much was it was supposed to be a one-off that then grew. And it grew to another and another and another and then went apart and then brought them back together as brothers and as this incredible force.

1:26:23It was just unbeatable and undefeatable. And both individually were so strong. And then together they were unstoppable. And I think that that, for the longevity of it, that was able to take you anywhere you wanted to go. Yeah, that was a good story. And it was, and it was a, it made the Undertaker character more relatable and human. True. Yeah. Yeah. Not that the human is. Was it a booking conundrum when we got together? Like, what do you do with these two monsters that have superpowers and throw lightning and eat fire? Sure it was a conundrum, but it was a good conundrum because it allowed us to, through the conundrum, it allowed both characters to grow and be able to do more.

1:27:19I'll never forget you coming to me and saying, what am I supposed to do with Kurt Angle? I can't work with him. This little guy, how am I supposed to have a match with him? And he got in the ring with him and made magic. So it was that freedom to grow and freedom for both characters to grow beyond just the mystical scary undertaker and the mystical fire-breathing cane. And that's why I like it, because it lasted so long and took one strong, ultra-strong character, created a second ultra-strong character, and a third with the combination and made everybody stronger, grew everybody in the process.

1:28:08That was the beauty of it to me. It's crazy that two supernatural characters, but when you start getting into the story, how relatable it can be to real life. and I think people... Yeah. Well, it's everybody has family. You know, even... It's for everybody. It's not just... You don't just have to have a sibling to understand it because you could be an only child because in many ways, we were telling that story in that. You thought you were an only child. Right. You thought that, oh my gosh, my brother and my family has perished. so it could identify with anybody. Anybody that had parents. We all do.

1:28:54We all go through tragedy. We all go through ups and downs. And that made it relatable. You in that moment became relatable. Still scary. Still supernatural. Still the undertaker. Still have all these powers. But he's human. I love that. and to be able to tap into how do you get the undertaker down? How do you hurt him? Well, you can hurt him with family. You can hurt him with this incredible story that this guy manipulated him his whole life for Paul Bearer's needs, manipulated you and told you this story, fed you this. And a lot of people can identify with that. Yeah, I love that. But something I didn't love, and I want to know your opinion on it, because you kind of had to talk me down this day.

1:29:48But did you like the streak being ended? Hated it. Me too. Hated it. Like, I was so mad that day, and he doesn't even remember it. So, like, it's like a lose-lose. I thought the streak should have ended with Giant Gonzalez. Oh, shucks. Yeah. You are a visionary. I almost ended with Giant Gonzalez. Yeah. You know, the streak was an accident. Yeah, no. The streak was an accident. It came up in a production meeting, and I believe it was Michael Hayes. He was like, I think Undertaker's undefeated at WrestleMania like 10 times in a row. I'm surprised I didn't get beat right then. As soon as that was brought to life.

1:30:31It was brought to life. Oh, we got to beat him. Yes. Yeah. So I think we should end that. but then it became a thing and part of it if there was a guy to do it Brock was a guy to do it I get that, I understand that however for me and I'm speaking strictly selfishly here it was it was something created out of my messed up head that

1:31:05it was like a baby. You watch it grow, that character. And it grows. And you see it come to life. And I wanted to keep it pure forever. Yeah, me too. So I understand the decisions. Why? It's just not something I would have done. Nobody gets out of this alive. Characters or anything else. No, I know. And I know you and I texted the next day. Wait, he didn't even know his name until 4 a.m. Yeah. And I waited until the next day because I just sensed. I did text our boss that night, and I wasn't working there at the time, and I texted him what I thought of it. And I just said, I wish you wouldn't have done that, but you have your reasons.

1:32:00other other i think i said other than that it was a great show

1:32:07um but then i i i had heard uh i'd heard that that you had gone to the hospital and everything so i waited before i reached out to you just make sure that you were good and and i don't i don't you know what i don't think you and i ever even talked about it beyond that but it was no i didn't I would have kept it whole. I would have kept it pure. Except for John Gonzalez. Yeah, makes sense. He were back. Bruce, thank you, man. Thanks for making time. Thank you for going six feet under with us. I could do this all day, actually, but I'm going to need drinks, so we don't have them. Will you come back, man?

1:32:42I would absolutely come back. I would love for you to come back. I loved it as well. It was about time, and I'm glad you finally did. How are you? Not really. Thank you. Thanks, man. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

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