What Do You Wanna Talk About? - Diamond Dallas Page

35:07And I would say to him, Dusty, how do you stay so positive? Because this is such an... The only way I know how to say this is, it's the greatest thing we've ever done, and it's the worst shit we've ever been in. And that's just the way it is. And never let him, don't ever sell it, D. Stay positive. You're going to make it happen. Your background was a manager. You're a fire-breathing dragon manager. You're going to be the greatest manager of all time. This is the shit he said to me. And I'd watch it. I'd go, man, he is so good. And he did. And he had some dark times, as you know. My gosh. And, you know, he taught me a lot, but the biggest one, and I got to do this.

35:58I tell this story all the time, but it's my favorite dusty story. I am bitching up a storm at late 94. So, you know, I'm like 38 years old and I'm, this book committee is never going to, they're never going to see it at me. I'm like at the, I'm at the top of the bottom at this point. And I'm just not going anywhere, no matter how hard I work, no matter what I do. And I am just bitching. And at some point I say, you know, Dream, I know I'm never going to be you or Rick or Hulk. I know I'm never going to be the world champion. But these suddenly went, got it! Enough! And he never yelled at me before ever.

36:44But that time he wanted to shut me up. He said, enough! what the what did you just say i feel kind of stupid you know like i'm not extreme i know i'm never going to be you or rick i didn't even get hulked out he goes no what did you say after that so i'm never going to be the world champion he said then what the fuck are you doing it for and i don't use that word can i use that word oh yeah that's what he said he said if you don't believe d as hard as you work as much time as you put in the business if you don't believe how the hell is anybody else going to believe if you don't believe you need to get the fuck out of our business right now and he kept going.

37:31But I've already felt like that. And I was like, whoa, you are so right. And right next to my answering machine, for those of you who are that old, was a pad. I pulled the pad over and I wrote, I will be the world champion in five years or less. It was four years, four months, and 14 days. The craziest part is I do a lot of cameos, right? And most of them are for people looking to be motivated. And I have to explain. It's not motivation. It's discipline. And explain. But I get a lot of those, right? And this is my go-to story, depending on what someone wrote me, because this is the most powerful story I have.

38:20Because it changed my life dramatically. And I realize that I said to him, I'm never going to be you or Rick or Hulk. Yet on April 11th, 1999, six days after my 43rd birthday, I step in the ring with Rick and Hulk and the stinger. And I walk out the world champion. and I didn't realize it until maybe the 15th or 50th time I told this story. I wish I had that cameo because you see it rush across my face like a great actor who doesn't have to say anything, but all you need to do is see what he's, you can see what he's thinking. Discovering, yeah. Right. And so, man, it was your dad. And he made me go to that next level of belief in myself and staying positive.

39:29Like that chokes me up. And I can see it in your eyes. It chokes you up too. That inner voice. There's something that, there's a video that's out there. I send it to people every now and then. It's Gary Hart of all people. Manager Gary Hart? Manager Gary Hart. And he's talking about Dusty. and this is this video is so important to me and people don't understand why when i send it to them they can i don't think they get why because i usually send it as my way of letting them know that you're in that territory now but he's talking about crockett and how it was a wasteland when dusty got there and the next thing you know guys went from driving you know hondas with you know matching rims that weren't matching they're lined up at the mercedes the next thing you know they've traded in their duffels for louis vuittons and then all that wealth and prosperity and when it got bad the same guy they blame for it being good it's now his fault right and he's he he specifically said the words no loyalty and hayman that's the real reason I can never fully turn the corner on disliking Mr.

40:48Heyman because he has the same story. So there's this bond over it, but it's also created in me. Maybe it is actually a little bit of the negativity, but it's created in me. It's why I try to document everything because I'm not having i'm not having any motherfucker rewrite my story right and i hear about shit like y 'all weren't there right i was there if you need me to be the scapegoat for your bullshit go ahead but like you won't do that to me the same way you did it to him and he didn't have the luxury right one of the reasons i love this podcast i tell people i don't but one of the reasons i love it because it's out there right i can put this out there you heard it you know and oh it's a cody line all that No, buddy.

41:33In this information age, the receipts are out there. Does it fit your narrative? No. Is your favorite wrestler not involved? But I was? Probably. But it's why I am the way I am. And I'll take it even further. It's why Teal and I are so close. Because have you ever seen Game of Thrones? Of course. So Arya Stark says the names. Right. So I'm a lot more diplomatic about it. Teal's not. Right. She'll just cut your throat. Teal at the end of the day, it's hard when I'm like, hey, I talked to such and such. She's like, yeah, I remember what he did to dad. Right. Like, ooh. She's got like a steel grip memory.

42:13But it balances each other out. Right. Because that's not my job to carry his battles. Right. If anything, it's my job when I come across those people, let me change the turf. How are you? You know, like there's, there's been plenty. I remember honky tonk man went on this whole shoot about Dusty. It's his opinion. He's trying to be entertaining. It's not the end of the world. But when I met him, I made sure I was the nicest person to him. Right. Cause whatever that was, it's ending right now. Right. He ain't working with you and I'm not working with you either. Right. So, but, uh, I think I, I'm just kind of, it's uncovering it as you're talking about it, but he was like you in that nothing could shake him.

42:58and I don't know, it's because it was so much at one point, so much blame, so much this, so much that, that finally becomes, you know what? You're going to be the best manager. You're going to be the world champion because he really did have that. And the same thing happens at Comeback Studios. People come to you with the most unreasonable shit and they come to you, sorry, there's a lot of cursing on this one, I apologize. But they come to you, people that maybe I don't even like and that their story's rough and their climb back's going to be tough. But you always, you never let anyone go out of there thinking they can't do it.

43:35You never tell anyone like, I don't think so, buddy. I don't think so. And I, that's just amazing. There ain't enough of that in wrestling. And Dusty was the same way. Somebody tell him the most ridiculous thing. Yeah, I think you can do it. Yeah, I remember there was a guy who was a janitor talking about becoming an astronaut. and I couldn't believe that when my dad was like I don't know about like is there a school like an astronaut school or a book there you guys are actually talking about this like guys start smaller like I don't want to knock this guys but I'd sit in a lot of those rooms or in the car when you'd be talking to people and thinking like that's just a skill that's just like just uh But I don't know if maybe I never knew him when it was so bad.

44:24And it's later in life, which is why Teal and I carry it forward. You know, like maybe I didn't know him well enough to know what happened. But by the time I got to him, literally, you could do anything. And that's, you know, you're around and you're a prime example. He didn't lie to you. You know? And maybe that's the thing about positivity. You're not lying to anybody because it's on you. Right. It's not lying. You're not lying to anybody to tell them, I think you can do that. because again you had mentioned if they just do the work if you just if you just do the work which is why um we're all over the place here there's going to be a second half to this for i'm sure but it's why when you sent me to howard fine uh howard fine acting studio which is so important and every day that goes on i realize how much i got out of just you know 12 months right his license but he he loved you too and to bring you in i know you did and to bring you into the inner sanctum like i i'll just call him once in a while just go what's up h yeah we'll just shoot the shit can i tell you uh can i make a confession about howard that he's it's probably time for him to hear you know barney his corgi oh i used to walk barney uh around the i know bar i don't think barney barney's passed on but i used to i used to walk barney around the studio and i'm from georgia we're not picking up dog shit you know what i'm saying like dogs just it's we're the south that's not no bags that's not a thing and i was now i'm in la you know where it's a thing right where it's a thing so i would do full-blown memphis wrestling barney would go to the bathroom i'd look around see if anyone was looking if i saw someone looking i'd take the bag hold it high up i'd sweep the ground nothing in it and then i'd go put it i might as well have just done it but i was like i'm not but I'd make a big wrestling pantomime.

46:14Oh, my God. Look, guys, I got it just in case. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. Baron Sucluna, when he would go in for the... They grabbed the butt knuckles. Yeah, literally, you got to let him see. We were just talking to Jimmy Hart about it. He threw a chain at Jerry Lawler for him to get, and he threw it in a way that it hit, and it could have gone bad because he threw it straight. You're meant to do the big lob up. I used to do on when I was doing Ring of Honor stuff, I used to try and turn it on its ear and I'd say, hey, Brandy, throw me the gimmick as loud as possible. So the ref would be like this and the guy would throw it in and the ref would.

46:54I saw it all. And as he went to get it, I'd kick the guy in the balls. So it was a little like, ha ha, turn it on its ear a little bit. Big news. WWE and sports fans, the world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, is making its return to New York City. Fanatics is bringing you closer to the leagues, teams, superstars, and athletes you love across four action-packed days in July. Meet your favorite WWE superstars, get your hands on exclusive merch, and interact with the biggest names in sports. Tickets are on sale now, and fans of the podcast can use code Cody10 at checkout for 10 % discount.

47:31Head to fanaticsfest.com to get your tickets today. All your positivity. This is something that Steve, you, who we've spoke about, we talk all the time offline about you and he's so positive and he likes this guy and, and what do you think about this? And he said one time to me something, he said, you try so many things out health-wise, health-wise, that in the end it's beneficial because if 10 out of those health things, if eight of the 10 worked, you were off, you were, if two of them were nonsense, which I have to bring up a moment that I have never brought up to you about what I would call is perhaps voodoo.

48:10Right. Okay. You told me on my birthday that you were going to take me to a special doctor because you know that my body is not great, but I don't tell anyone. And you know, things are what they are. So you're going to take me to the special doctor. I think you're just going to take me to a chiropractor and you would have been better off just taking me to a chiropractor because at least the noise happens. Oh, that was great. You took me to this guy, no names. And he was a chiropractor and he did adjust me. But before he adjusted me, Dallas, he said, I think you've got an aversion to corn. And I thought, okay.

48:50And he goes, I think you do. So he grabbed my hand and he goes, squeeze my hand. I squeeze his hand. This is very important when I tell you next. He goes, all right. He takes a vial of corn. Yep. He holds it over my body. Yep. It's not touching. It's a vial. He holds it over my body. He goes, squeeze my hand again. Dallas, I squeeze his hand and there was no difference. There wasn't a single difference. And he goes, yep, corn. And I was looking at you in the corner and you were just going, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. and I thought, I know so much of what he does is right, but this, someone say something, and then he held it over my stomach.

49:30He goes, push your foot, push it, push your foot again, push it, same. Ah, it's the corn. Dude, like, it was, it was, I, I left, and I immediately, I forget when I walked in the house who was there, but I said, I have to tell you. like that like it was a complete like i know it worked for you i know it worked for you and i appreciate you taking me on the ride but it is it is one of the moments where i thought that's just i love him too much to let him know that that was a shaman uh it wasn't real it was like a mad but But maybe it was. I don't know. But that aside, things that don't work, something that clearly does work and not.

50:18You have the footage and you've been so kind to never show anybody. Your power cuffs, right? Yeah. Okay, so you've got these cuffs, the power cuffs. They're amazing. Just look up any of the EDP's socials and you'll see what the power cuffs do. You had me do a workout with them. And I did not have enough gas in the tank. I gave up midway through without giving up, without tapping or saying I'm done. and you could tell i couldn't do anymore i cut back and you just said we're not going to use any of this which is a rare you use everything not not if you don't look good but you for me were like we're not going to use any of this and i thought well you know like i don't know what it was but they do work yeah they do work yeah i told you my uh inebriated power power story All right, it's time.

51:03It's time. It's time. WrestleMania 39 is in LA. Right. It's my first time in the main event of WrestleMania. Yep. I am so excited. It's SoFi, this brand-new, unbelievable stadium. Maybe the greatest stadium in current out there. Just unbelievable place to see a game, to see a show, all these things. it's Roman Reigns, the greatest WWE main eventer, as far as WrestleMania goes, in history. It's myself. It's a whole story. It's true. Every piece of this is true. Trying to win the title that Dusty didn't have. All that I mentioned earlier about the no loyalty. All that loaded up, man. I'm bringing that to this game.

51:49But I was really nervous about everything. I had said yes to every appearance. I had John Cohn and talent relations had taken me everywhere. but I really was scared. I was nervous. I was anxious. West Coast show, so it's going to come quick. So I needed to sleep. I needed to sleep. So I took something that would help me go to sleep. That's the best way to put it. It was pretty nebulous, but I took something that would help me go to sleep. And then I was just drifting off, and I smelt burning. Right. And I looked on the lamp above my sink on my bus, and I had put one of the power cuffs on the lamp and I burned through it.

52:32So it was like, not the end of the world. I was going to use them the next day to pump up, but I didn't know what to do. So I burned it and threw it away. Next year the fire happens. So there's no fire, but I burned it. But the funny part was the next day you told me, you're like, you ready? Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready. And you're like, yeah, I feel good. Yeah. And then you go, you got your cuffs. and I just went yeah yeah I got him I got it but I it took me like three months to reveal I need new cuffs because of this situation uh before Wrestlemania 39 and then Wrestlemania 40 uh you you completely sobered me up not not in any sense but you did something so funny that I'll never forget it and I it's you you're always part of we do big Wrestlemania right WrestleMania is what brings my family together.

53:25One of the whys for why I want to be in a great spot on it and why I work as hard as I would like to work is because I want them to come in April and know that the road's name matters. So the family all comes. We do the big dinner. We do all that stuff. But you were texting me. It's kind of like the day of my wedding, and you texted me all these questions, and I'm thinking, there's someone else who can answer these questions. right like brian somebody answered dallas's questions right i want dallas taken care of he needs to be there but i can't be and then you come on the bus and i'm in my under trunks i'm in my under trunks and you have your beautiful new wife there with you so already we know each other now on like an intimate level i'm like in my under trunks and i uh i'm thinking i gotta go inside it's time to go to work and you're just like hey uh you got any coffee yeah yeah i got got coffee this is not hard turn coffee machine on so I go to turn the coffee machine on and you said uh what do you got in the fridge what kind of milk you got like any like oat or almond or what a healthy option do you I don't know I don't know so like the next thing you know I'm like the barista for you and I I thought like I wouldn't have it any other way I wouldn't have it any other way because Dustin also comes on that bus and Dustin and I had a shorter interaction but I feel like those are my favorite stories that come out of wrestle me those are my favorite my my my favorite moments but yeah that one uh made me laugh because i think brandy was like hey guys i think he's got to go inside and get ready and i'm just pouring creamer like i don't know oh man but uh it's not like you're in the main event at wrestlemania bro no but it was it was it was and we had done it back to back and and you you also really uh hit to that wrestlemania 39 you You asked me the question I didn't want to answer.

55:22I remember I didn't want to answer it. I didn't want to answer it. You said, what happens if you lose? No, I said, is it really matter if you do the job this time? Yeah. Because the fans will want it so bad. And you go, what if we lose momentum? I go, what if you don't? Yeah, but you're not wrong. But that's crazy gambling. You know what I mean? Like when you say stuff. That paid off in spades. Yes, but when you say stuff like, it's either going to be the worst thing that ever happened to you or the best thing that ever happened to you. The problem is, you know what that means. You know, like, great, I'm going to make this awful situation the best thing that ever happened to me.

56:05I don't. That's what you do, though, dude. I try. No, that's what you do. And when you finally, you'll lose a little bit of that shit when you just say, no, that's what I do. Yeah. Because that's what he did. Yeah. that's what he taught me to do yeah and i'm just giving you back third generation no for sure you know here's something that i've adopted backstage and uh the unreal cameras have they've seen me say it enough that i feel like they now know what i mean but we run in all these situations where it's the rest of mania this year for example our uh the title change in germany and let's let's pivot let's make some different moves and all this and uh oh there's a lot of momentum behind drew to people love drew and as they should he's awesome i always tell people because people will say uh i don't know if that's good for you or you know and i don't know if i mean it arrogantly i think i just mean it from my own experience but what i tell them is uh i can survive it that's what i tell everyone uh michael hayes has heard me say it a lot mr hayman's heard me say it a lot is I can survive it.

57:13I don't know if that's good or bad, but I felt like as a baby face, it's becoming a powerful trait. Like, great. All of this. This is a lot, guys. You know what? I can survive it. You know what? I love that Cena said, just be you. Oh, yeah. In the ring. That was powerful. That's a powerful. Told me in the ring. Yeah. Powerful statement, bro. That's what that is. That's a guy who's been there. And I never understood when people didn't like Cena. Talk his ass off. Works great. Does whatever it takes. I mean, got a lot of respect for that cat, man. When I saw him do frigging the ESPYs, I was like, this guy's different level.

58:07He's different level. something he said too when we came out for Mania but also for SummerSlam he said he was saying don't worry about them they'll be making noise all night don't worry about them which I didn't feel like I needed to hear it at the time but then I did you know and that's what made it more special to me was has he ever had to tell anyone this because he's always been the one having to do that Right. Now he's telling someone, don't worry about them. Oh, there's responsibility in that. There's power in that. Like, I don't mind at all. Somebody, one of my peers kind of took a shot at me the other day and was like, oh, is this because seen as your mentor?

58:56And I thought, yeah, yes, A is the answer. But I'm not mad that you know that. I'm not mad. That's, oh my, what a bad one to have right right oh my you know the greatest of all time 17 and continuing to have another chapter now ain't a hell of an actor yeah hell of an actor but here's the here's the thought is another chapter you are the king of the next chapter uh and there's always something you could we could talk about you talked about the resurrection of jake the snake you talked about you know if you look at what you did with butterbean if you look at what you did with people who aren't from our world who aren't famous and and all you have to do is is again follow all all these socials and you'll see these positivity stories these accountability stories um and things of that nature you uh you you you've brought so many guys back and and why why is it what is it is it a sense of you owe it you know you or is it brotherhood or is it what's right what want to pay back yeah i gotta tell you about your dad yeah which didn't happen but the way it happened was so dusty he said you know i was i was talking about it it's in the beginning of me doing this you know and and i really wanted to just help him feel better yeah you know and he said what if we're gonna to do it we're gonna do it right we're gonna use the you do then we're gonna film it we're gonna do the youtube stuff the youtube but but he freaking went on a like rant of doing like i'm gonna do this i want to do it with you you got it we're gonna do it and the next day he called me back daddath i couldn't take it there was cheesecake in the refrigerator and when i went downstairs i ate the whole thing not doing it click i just slept at that for jake yeah he was ready yeah and that's the only reason it happened scott became ready because he saw jake ready yeah and but i wanted to call it the resurrection of jake's snake at scott hall and he was like ali you know yeah this is Jake's thing and I'm not I'm I like drinking I don't want to drink right now I don't want to drink I want I feel I like the way I'm feeling I'm getting healthier but he wasn't ready yet he was never going to be ready yeah so once I realized that I said okay you got shows yeah you can't show up drinking yeah so we got to trick you down so you can't just stop drinking you gotta taper off and he taught me that i didn't know and so what he would do is he'd start tapering down before each time you know that he would go out then he'd come home he might not drink he might and i just i just couldn't believe how good he came back every time like he was the movie star he may be like the best looking guy ever in our business great body he had everything quick wit and he'd wait and he'd just slide that thing and it'd pop everybody yeah man I'm more amazed and more excited every time I think about Jake that he's been 14 years sober and Jake did not like the resurrection of Jake the snake.

1:02:49He liked it. He loved it for what the journey was, but he didn't want to see it all the time. Of course not. Who wants to see themselves in that condition? I, I want to bring this up because I know we, we, we probably got to, we've probably got to wind up here with you. Definitely. Let's just, this is a, this, this team, we, we love doing this. let's just do part two. That sounds good. Let's just guarantee part two. We can do it close. We can do it at the factory or we can even do it right there in Steve Yu's house.

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1:04:55You want to what? I wanted to select the legend. I wanted to be able to put someone from the Hall of Fame group or one of our legends to those guys. And I've come to realize my only answer for why is because it's the right thing to do. And I don't know why, but it's more than ever. Maybe it's being here often. I've been in Stanford more than ever. more than ever it's got me to this it's the right thing to do and you lead the charge on it's the right thing to do right it's almost how you know it's almost not worth exploring why the fact that it's being done and the fact that it's been done you know scott jake lex hall of fame just an amazing situation and uh the wrestling business and i i don't know if i can speak on behalf of the wrestling business but probably someone who maybe uh thanks you i those guys all thank you the families all thank no doubt but i thank you because you've given time you've given you've given a clarity you've given given final chapters and you're just now in a chapter two uh before we go into the two games i do just want to briefly if i can ask about because we're okay we're okay i'm gonna briefly ask about ddp european tour oh yeah yes ddp european tour my boy Sebastian, I don't know the name of his wrestling show, but I had such a great interview with him.

1:06:15Yeah. It made me want to go back to Germany, which I was just there for Christmas. Sebastian, who works with WWE-wise, he's in Germany, actually. Does he? Yes, great. Oh, awesome. We love Sebastian. I did not know that. Yeah, good guy. But what a great guy. We had a great time on the interview. We have a meet and greet and Q &A, and the VIP dinner's already sold out and haven't really told anybody yet. And I'm doing that in Germany. And then I don't remember what the name of the club is, the gym where we're doing a DDP yoga workshop on the 16th. So 15th and 16th, I'm actually coming in on the 14th.

1:06:58Paige is going to be climbing the Dolomites in Italy and then flying in to meet me for the Q &A and then the workshop we're going to do. And then we're going up into the Alps for a couple of days so she can climb some more mountains. And then we're flying in. Are you familiar with Inside the Ropes? Yeah, of course. Kenny, right? I'm the first one he ever did. I didn't know that. I knew I was one of the early ones, but I didn't realize I was the first. So we're going to fly into Glasgow, and I'm going to do the 21st. I'm doing a Q &A and a meet and greet for Kenny. Then we're driving that night to Manchester for the 22nd, and we're going to do a DDKP workshop in Manchester the next night in London, or I should say day.

1:07:48And when you're doing a workshop, it isn't like a workout. It's like you walk in, you put your mat down, and then you come right to me and Paige and freaking say hello, take some pictures. Then we get into it. And when I do any kind of workshop, I'm doing inspiration meets perspiration. I've seen them. You're getting more, no pun intended, bang for your buck than anybody in terms of you're giving them so much. We'll put it up there in all the cities. And then we'll be in London for a Q &A there and meet and greet. Here is. Inside the ropes. Our friends at Wheatley have a very fun jingle. I'm going to play this for you, and then I'm going to ask you to replace a word.

1:08:29a word yeah Wheatley's so good I drink it neatly I watch with Moscow always get the mule vodka this good is an American jewel Wheatley's so good I drink it neatly Wheatley's so good I drink it neatly if you could replace the word neatly with any word what would it be oh my god I mean it's right there it's right there say it again Well, no, Wheatley's so good, I drink it neatly, and you're taking out neatly. What would DDP do, right? Wheatley's so good, I drink it. Completely? Yeah, completely works. But also, I feel like you could go, and I saw someone shouted that one, and Wheatley's so good, I drink it, bang.

1:09:16Oh, any word. I would say Wheatley's so good, I drink it. I can't reply, but for you, it's, I'm going to go ahead and give you yours. Positively. Because that is everything. I cannot shake you. You are the most positive human being. It's amazing. It's the best. And everyone who talks about you, you can't be shake. You just, it's. I can be shake. I can be shook. Yeah. I just breathe. Yeah. I get shaken out. Myself, Wheatley American Vodka, we like to consider ourselves the dream team. And I always ask everybody who's on their dream team. And sometimes easier to say, hey, going into a war games match, four or five people, but really it can be whoever.

1:10:02Who is with you? You know, we talked about in the beginning, in the introduction, the Dusty Five. That probably would have been his dream team. Who is on DDP's dream team? All eras. All eras. Oh, Dusty, for one. Superstar Billy Graham. Okay. Handsome Jimmy Valiant. Wow. Do I get five? You can go as many as you want, man. Okay. Kevin Scott. Yeah. And you. Oh, man. We're not doing any jobs. We're not doing any jobs. Oh, thanks, D. And again, we are going to do a second part to this, so look forward to that. Wheatley, American Vodka, Ben Brown, The Archivist, and WWE and Fanatics. Thank you so much.

1:10:44Ladies and gentlemen, on What Do You Want to Talk About? Diamond Dallas Page GDP. Oh, bang!

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