What Do You Wanna Talk About? - Jey Uso

30:21Yeah. Man, I'm trying to take it all still. And all the ones that you talked about, trying to take it all. It becomes the world is not enough. You know, it's an addiction, but also it's a responsibility. And I remember the first time somebody told me, and I didn't believe it, didn't buy into it, but the first time somebody told me, you're not one of the boys anymore. And I thought, I don't love that, but I do. Right? I always need to be at the end of the day. No matter what, because if that breaks, then you break this circle that we're all involved in. But also, I love that it was said to me because the sense of responsibility to move right, what that comes from, what you do, by the way.

31:05I don't know if I've ever shared this with you, and I hope others have shared with you. But look around the current locker room. Everyone's on a bus. I'm on a bus. There's not a lot actually locker room. And move right is a great way to describe what you do, because one of the shining examples of how to go out there and do it and do it consistently. And on a bad day, it doesn't change your performance. There's no boo-boo face on a good day. It doesn't change your you are you are going out and you give it your all. You're trying to get it all. And I think that's just a great example. I know there's tons of the boys now, these young bucks, like your Carmelo Hayes, that they watch and see.

31:46And that's, you ain't performative with it. That's a real thing that they get to see. I do like being with the boys. Like you said, man, you're always going to be one of the boys. But there's going to come a time where you're not. And a lot of the boys probably will never understand that until you get in that spot. now it's like oh you can't be one of the boys you gotta kind of dress alone because you can't tie emotion together because now when it's time to go against each other now y 'all you in the backstage now y 'all shoot heated at each other it's just business sorry but let's run the play let's run the play it's business you know a thing I started kind of adopting again we're all trying to figure it out how do you navigate this new role, new space one of the things I started doing I don't suggest it, but I just noticed I've started doing it.

32:39Because I play dumb. Right? There's a room for people. Well, I got an idea. Well, here's my idea. Here's my idea. I literally will just. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because the real idea is going to come up in a minute. Yeah. We've sat here for a while. The real idea is going to come up in a minute. You know who's telling me to cut you off? You know who said that same thing? Who? My dad. All right. The OG move. He goes, you sit there. Everyone throws ideas. You sit there. My dad goes, you sit there. get quiet you think about it i'll come back to you man dad you og man you just ninja ninja in people yeah you're not you're you're you're thinking about it but everyone wants to throw yeah sometimes sometimes for me i've seen some man these conversations are heavy man these rounds are live training yeah it's long and you just think i'm just gonna sit here and if it comes to me i'll have something i'll have something but if it doesn't hmm i don't know there's something you can't play dumb forever because you eventually have to run the play right but i've noticed that some of my favorites aren't aren't the loudest in the room you know and also they're not even with netflix being here there everywhere they're not performing for that right that's one of the cool things about unreal at least in my experience with them is yeah you're getting me half the unreal i didn't even know they was recording filming you yeah yeah yeah like you're getting a pretty quiet curmudgeon slightly isolated deep in thought trying to get the best segment or the best for us all right oh man i like that pop said that we got a big hug me and pops yeah at uh the forum good i was moving to go do something i just gave him a big hug i don't we i don't even think we know him i just feel like i know him here's here's a little confession you may not remember this, but I was so teed up at the press conference and I knew like, well, we're in trouble tomorrow or that was fun.

34:34And then the next day they ran the whole thing and it's full. So I thought, okay, we're good. Maybe people liked it. We're good. Uh, but I don't know if you remember how bad I was. This is how I remember. Okay. But this is, okay. This is rough. and it's probably at a group thread with your brother. I wrote to you guys, do any white guys ever get a Smoen tattoo?

35:02He was ready. I was ready. When you said the thing about I've never won a belt with anyone other than my brother, I was like, oh, dude. Sir, I want to be his brother. I'm glad because you guys just laughed it off and you're like, yeah. and then I think somebody sent me a YouTube video I was like okay that's not I gotcha yeah that's not you said you ran the whole conference back remember how we went first man me and your interview because I watched the whole thing just to make just to see how when you see man me and yours was the best part of the whole damn thing that match no our our seg in the press conference they should have let us do the whole press conference yeah because I remember EO Sky went after me and you and it was just flat I was like oh poor that was a combination I wanted to I wanted to run it back you know you've been the world champion now the world champion crazy the world champion I wanted to run it back I was looking for I wonder if he'll do a press conference I was looking for these excuses just to like explode on the scene but then I also thought no like that's his right you can't just be the white guy who wanted that Samoan tattoo You just come up.

36:18It's in my heart, right? They know it's in my heart. I don't know if you remember Canadian Stampede, this Calgary Saddle Dome match. It's a mixture of all the top guys and then against the Hart Clan. But the Hart Clan is made up of, they're not all hearts. It's like Pillman. It's all over the place. And I always felt like there was this little camaraderie with me and Big Jim and you and Chicken and a few others that if someone was to show up in the locker room and throw down, good fight, bad fight, not fight, whatever it is, this would be my, like, I got, these were not just the, hey, you're one of the boys, you're one of the boys.

37:00Like, it's a whole other thing. I don't know. Starting five. Yeah, I don't know how to describe it, but I always had that sense. Full speed ahead, by the way. Oh, man, I love you, man. Full speed. Sorry, I almost said, yeah, man, full speed ahead, yo. I love you, man. Man, come on, man. And chicken. Full speed ahead. How is your brother? How is he? Double knee surgery. What the? Who gets double knee? Stop telling him the double knee uppercut, man. Come on, man. Who gets both knees at the same time? And then, like, I've had a whole day talking about chicken, but he is, like, he's off and running as a wrestling trainer, and I know he's going to do more wrestling, but you've seen the outlaws, my nephews, right?

37:43Of course. Of course. they're up they're ready dude yeah so you know that yeah right yeah and they're ready for the whole the trip i'm right which starts it's gonna be but i didn't see it coming and the next thing you know i'm like oh whoa pump the brakes this ends with me you know it doesn't though you know it's the family the whole thing but oh man are you ready to hold wwe history in the palm of your hand Topps is bringing you closer to the action than ever before with WWE Topps Now, highlighting the biggest matches and milestones from WWE shows and PLEs throughout the year. Topps Now is enhancing the fan experience by connecting collectors to the superstars and spectacles that ignite their passion.

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39:13Big Jim. Let me say this one time for Chicken though. Hold on. Chicken, besides Ray Mysterio, they're both like the same age, right, Luz? Yeah, I think so. Man, Gold does got one of the quickest comebacks. I have a bumping fan for him. That's on record. That's on record. Quickest comeback. Run it back. Watch this comeback. Well, how about the generation of hit the rope super hard, generation of see if you can jump higher than the other guy, and as a bad guy, hit the mat and get up faster than anybody else? Attack the mat. Where is that? I watched your cousin. I watched Roman take a super kick where it looked like a wrestling school one-on-one how you're supposed to take a back bump.

39:55It was attack the mat. and he doesn't have to attack the mat anymore but that's the difference and you'll hear steve austin talk like that guy hits the ropes slow and ah i get it that's like yeah once i'm uh we're doing a sixer in florida for florida championship wrestling before nxt popped off or maybe right when it did it's the only time me dustin and dusty ever tagged together and dusty's just shenanigans just his usual stuff and i was on the apron thinking i'm better than both of them which is absurd and then chicken's in there doing his thing and he hit the rope so hard that the ring pinged and i remember my dad my dad looked at me just like what the fuck is he doing like and i wanted to tell him that's how he goes come on he knows one speed full speed there is not so so uh for those who don't know this story jay and jimmy big jim who i love big jim big jim yeah man we We love Big Jim.

40:53Big Jim. Oh, so me, Big GMJ and Chicken, who's Dustin, by the way, we're in Innsbruck, Austria. We landed, got off the plane. You see this giant ski jump because that's where they train for Olympic jump. I don't even know. It was the only landmark I felt in sight. Innsbruck, Austria had a house, a staggering house of 1 ,100 people. 1 ,100 people. so not a great crowd but also not super familiar with the product we had been doing this tag match on the live events where we were doing everything dives goldie rolls uh goldie uh his sunset bomb all his new stuff he's crazy doing everything full dive over the top suicides and the question became when we got there hey not a great you know house do you guys want to kind of just lighten it up, change it up.

41:47And it was in unison almost. All of us just kind of. A little pause. Pause. And then I think Chicken's the one who said, no, full speed ahead. Full speed ahead, yo. Full speed ahead. FSA. FSA. That's in the group thread. FSA. FSA. And I always thought, yeah, I wouldn't have done it either way. I knew what they were asking, to be fair to those who were asking. They weren't saying be lazy. Yeah. They weren't. And now as I've gotten older, I get what they were asking. But still, I think I'd make the same call 10 times out of 10. Come on, man. And let alone Chicken made that call. Yeah. We're like 15 years younger than him over here.

42:24Let's take it easy. Nah, man. What did he tell you guys that one time he fell on the mat? He goes, give me a goddamn second. Oh, yeah. So we're all green. Like Goldust is like selling, okay? You know, me and Jim is just mauling him. We're 23, 23. We're just mauling him. Man, Goldust breaks character, man. He's on all fours. He goes, wait. Give me a goddamn minute. And he's just sitting up. Man, me and Jim back up. This is in the ring. Shit. He's so mad. One of them must have slipped through. That'd be my favorite. This is in the middle of the ring. I'm sorry. He used to get mad if any segment was less than he wants his paint.

43:09He needs to get that paint off. So if he paints up and he don't sweat it off, problem. He'd hate. It was like, ah, sure. Now I got to get my sweat. So that's why he was hitting the ropes. That was insistent. And I don't know if you remember this. When we'd tag or tag against you, whatever it may be, his shoulders, rotator cuffs, all gimmicked up. Yeah, it is. So he can only go up here. So I'd always get, you know, hold my brother's hand up. I'd get on the side with the shit on him. And he'd always like, hey!

43:42He's going to side mute. Chicken. Yeah, he got double knees. Double knees, man. It's crazy, man. Yeah. I know he's told me he's incredibly proud of you both. My man just. He raised us. He was my first, like, match on the road when I first got up. Him and Mark Henry. Oh, man. Yeah. Like, man, that's crazy. Gold us tomorrow. I'm so happy, man. I get to, like, lock up with, like, because now you look at the building, Like you look at the locker room now, there's no, it's like Randy, Kofi, or that's in front of us. You know, you. It's not so. Ray Mysterio. You locked up with people like that. I tell people all the time, I got to lock up with Triple H.

44:28I got to be in there with Undertaker, Shawn Michaels. Have you ever worked with Umaga? I got in there with Usa on a live event tour, actually. Yeah. With my dad. No. But I'm ready. If he's in the center of the ring, I'm coming. And let him know I'm going to keep feeding. Yeah, let's go. I'm going to keep feeding full speed ahead. I always say that not in a sense of braggadocia. I say, like, I got something from that. Let me pass it on. Right? I was working Hunter when he was still active. I got to work Sean on his comeback. Taker, full speed. Like, I got something from them. Let me share. I was geeking out when Edge came back in COVID era.

45:06Yeah. And I got to work him. Oh, yeah. AJ too. uh yeah man it's just even even when i won the first straps against the new age outlaws i'm standing against you know billy and road dog and i'm geeking out you know uh it's cool to like fangirl fanboy in there sometimes too against your against the ground i fanboy against you dog come on dog no he it'd be real in there too i like i like it all man i like yeah i like i mean It gets real in there. I was going to sound weird, but like you leveled me with a couple of super kicks. And I thought like, yeah, give me another one. That weird wrestler, like what's wrong with these people?

45:49It's weird how we're friends and tight. Give me another one. The cooler we are, like the harder we'll hit each other. Dude, back to the live event thing. I was telling somebody, another byproduct is it's a lot easier to hit your dude when that's your dude. If I barely know you, I'm like, sorry, like last night, those damn police officers swarming me. I had to start swinging that stick. I saw a clip of it today. Oh, my God. I was swinging for my life. And I don't know any of those guys. And then after, I thought, I wish I'd say to them, hey, guys, hope I didn't catch you near you. I don't think I did, but sorry.

46:23But I didn't even see them. So now all these dudes, they can grow up to be the next champ. They got this memory of me losing my shit with a kendo stick by the ring, beating up, you know, fake armed cops in New York. Felony after felony. I was just trying to break into business, man. And you was very mean to me, dude. Oh, I remember you. You beat me with a kendo stick. Yeah, I didn't even do anything to you. I was just trying to get clear. And you got Logan running out there with a bulletproof vest, swinging all around, doing Logan stuff, taking the one D like this. You know, like, oh, man. He caught me when he put that vest on.

46:53So I was like, oh. He said, shh, shh. I was like, oh, he ready. It was Battlegrounds in two weeks. Yeah, bro, he's in it. War games. Yeah, he's in that War Games. Oh, man. Cheers, man. Cheers. This next question is part of a segment we call Game Plan, fueled by game day men's health, because let's be honest, showing up at your best takes work. So let me ask you, what is your game plan for staying sharp? Could be physical, could be mental, could be family stuff. whatever it is, how do you stay in the zone and keep pushing even when life's stacked against you? I think you get a tight circle around you.

47:35I think you need loved ones around you, bro. I think you need a higher calling around you. I think I think love is it, though, man. Man, you know, it was family oriented, always family. That's that's me. Love. that is a phenomenal answer that's exactly why game does out here helping guys optimize their energy their focus and longevity you don't have to slow down you just need the right game plan check out gameday men's health.com slash cody to learn more hey what's that unreal stuff pop me though because when i watched it and they saw you know i did i did i missed a rope damn i blew up hit the damn top rope you know what i'm saying but I can't pop me the man.

48:19I'm shit blown. Look, look, I'll say it. Hell yeah, I be tired. Damn, we only wrestling one time out of the week. I had to get my stamina up, but you know, man, it happens. All right. But it was, it popped me though. Cause I was like, man, they, they really like getting all the raw footage. You know, there was a little camera in the corner over there and gorilla dude. That two hour window I talked about. It's totally on us. If we have a dud, it's also totally on us. if we knocked it out the park, you know? So that's a tricky, I'm curious, because I went from not liking Unreal to liking Unreal to I can say this about it.

48:58They are, there's nothing performative about it. That's a sincere production of what we're doing backstage, you know? Do you think it's too much? So here's, this is going to be my weird theory on why I don't think it's too much. And I'm curious, what do you think? Do you think it's too much? No, I like, I mean, it's a show. Let's go. Y 'all really want to be smart about it like they think they are? Here. So I think the wheels turning no matter what. Game's changing. I like it because the old school part of me, and I'm giving myself away and saying this, but you'll never know. I like it because there's still work that can happen under the work.

49:37Under the work. Yeah. And that's the most Brett Sean level. What? Yeah. Wait, that's. Work under the work. Who? Oh, they don't like each other. You know, one of those, if I can just get you speculating, we've moved. That's a win. And now I've given that away. So that was my play for Unreal. But also they don't give me a lot of interview time on there because a lot of it's just me rambling about, you want Unreal, I'm going to give you how my day's going. That's what you want, you know. There's some funny scenes in there. Work under the work, though. Work under the work. That could happen. Because that's the most old school thing of all.

50:10Is the fans are, this is the thing people mistake wrestling fans. People think wrestling fans are, I don't want to say monster truck fans because I don't want to belittle monster trucks. But people think wrestling fans are dumb. Wrestling fans are smart. They're passionate. They're loyal. Most of us in this room are wrestling fans. They'll let you know if they hate or like you. They've only gotten more educated. So why shouldn't our product become more educated? Why shouldn't we be able to take them on a little, oh, they got me. They got me. And I think one of the things about Hunter that I like so much is still looking for a they got me.

50:49OK, cool. You guys think, you know, and good. I'm glad you do. You know, like that's what keeps them coming back to. Yeah, that's the whole if you want to keep doing this. And then the young guns are such the younger generation of fans is different in terms of what they like. Just right now. What an opening, by the way. Again, can't can't praise enough for you come out there and they're all eating and they're next to you and they're so excited about that. And that's such, I don't want to use the word metric because you can't, I don't want to give that, I don't want to sound sterile, but man, nothing will tell you you're cooking more than that.

51:25Yeah, though. You know, that little guy or that little girl. And I feel like right now in wrestling, the opportunity to be a baby face exists again because of people like you. No, he just does the right thing. I'm going to always go towards the kids. Oh, yeah. Man, and that's just what it is. Wrestling is for the kids. And I'm going to always stick with that help. That's what it is, man. Sometimes I do get caught up with the noise out there. Oh, I know. The noise. And I'm not going to say it's not in the back of my head. Yeah. Because, man, we all human, Oose. We out here trying to eat, too. But I focus on the kids, man, because that's why I come out and I look for them now, Oose.

52:10And I haven't started. That just started with the kids, man. and now we got babies. Now I just focus on the kids. I just like, just fun, man. And then I always use the entrance, not going to lie, I think I ribbed myself because when I go out there, I don't half-ass that. No. In that moment, I'm giving it all with you. And then I forget, oh, I got to wrestle. Damn, boom, you know? Yeah. Which is cool, man. I like second wind. I like gasoline. It's okay. It feels real. Regardless, man. in that moment, I love it. Yeah. And then when you walk through the curtains, Oose, and the night's done, you know, you done showered, checked out, you know what it is, Oose.

52:52You sitting by yourself and have that moment. Did you give it? Like, did you waste tonight? Did you? Yeah. Because there's some homies waiting to take your damn spot, Oose, and I'm not going to let them. That's a big one. Did you waste it? Because every now and then the answer, at least I know in my case, I've had a moment, yeah. Sure. I wasted that one. And that's one step that you took back. Right. And if you were so far ahead and right, exactly. And there's others who are give their left their left finger for that. I want to shout out to Mario backstage because we talk about Yeet a lot. And is he going to eat?

53:27He's coming down. We're going to. And he's been really good about identifying. I understand the characters, the story, whatever it may be. But also we have an obligation to this live audience. They got to do their thing. and if so we'll be doing they'll be and i and i think wwe is the one sport entertainment broadway however you look at it we're the one thing that can do that come on we can no matter the circumstances make sure that we don't jip our live audience which is the great thing that cena taught you i you know we have that fun story about the dark match yeah he did it on tv though so i don't mean to cut you off no he the crowd was hot his music was playing he was like this let them like straight to hard camera.

54:09Them. Them. They cut the music off just so the crowd could be a part of. Yeah. But them. Very much so. Fire, man. Well, like, saying the young kids, I got captivated in terms of, like, young kids in the audience. It was just great. I'm a big Star Wars fan. People ask, like, George Lucas, all these crazy Star Wars questions all the time. Star Wars this. And to the point, you have an older guy and your whole legacy has been about Star Wars. You don't always want to answer questions. and one time he just got a little frustrated. I'll have to find the interviewer somewhere, but he finally just say, hey, man, I made these movies for kids, okay?

54:44Like, I know that we're all talking about them at 40 years old here, but I made these for kids. Come on. And I thought, sometimes wrestling, we have a very broad audience. Old, young, there was a 101-year-old lady in the crowd last night. We have a broad audience. However, that part of the audience is the largest and sometimes doing the right thing as a baby face has been hard in the past because of how the audience was. Now you have the opportunity. You have the opportunity. Big Jim has the opportunity. Roman has the opportunity. Sami Zayn has the opportunity. These baby faces that exist. LA Knight has the opportunity.

55:21CM Punk to do something in a, you know, not to be pretentious, but in a role model way. And that's, you know, when you're a kid, when you're riding with somebody, you're not getting out the car, right you're you're in and that's my god that's you that's a big thing every great booker every great producer and we've said that a bunch throughout doing these pods is when you finally go that's my guy him that's right and he like growing up sean michaels was my guy you're right it was the kids gonna oh 10 years with you rock with you yeah i mean look at the scene of farewell those dudes are old now and they were wearing those shirts on like the uniform version one and now they got a little guy with them themselves you know like when sean's around when sean michaels around me and Sean's the tricky one, you know, cause Sean is Sean.

56:04A lot of serious talk, a lot of, man, all I can look at is like, Hey, remember when, uh, remember when he's, you super kicked diesel, but remember you hit him with a camera and it took like 80 seconds for her to count three, but he still counted three. You remember that? Like, that's all I think. Like, that's all I'm not what he could be saying the most. He could be telling me, Hey, there's someone behind you about to hit you with a chair and i'd be like remember you remember in my mind you remember royal rumble when yeah you remember when you're one foot twice and then you super kicked him and he went over the top rope i'm still he's still my guy you know like oh my gosh he's still my guy how do you remember the time when you and uh you know what i like about that and you're saying it is when you have identified somebody as hey he's he's eating you treat it as a responsibility and I feel like growing up in the business you saw those who didn't treat it as responsibility you saw your dad did the greats did and then there's others who ships in the night got you they're out you know they're not here they're not here they didn't look at it that way they didn't look at it as my obligation to this fan like that's sometimes on my worst days that's how I think of it is did I do the workout did I look into did I text with my writer whomever I feel that's my obligation.

57:23I'm paid extremely well and my obligation is the bigger pay of being able to do this gig. Right? It's a great gig, Goose. It's a blessed gig. Get hard out here, sometimes I'll be thinking, I'm complaining about catching a flight to go do an appearance. Stay humble, ready to rumble. Stay in the game this long. Do you think you complain a lot? I ain't gonna lie, bro, I do. hey but i do man but i do the work too so i have a kind of rule about i like to complain a lot a lot however i'm gonna be there yeah so if you don't know that i'm gonna be there you start to get a little like geez it's this this this bitch you know versus like no i'm gonna be there i'm just gonna really like make it difficult yeah yeah you know i'm gonna do my job i yeah i'm clearly gonna show up you know but i i really want you to think on the way it's gonna be difficult you know?

58:21No, man, but it's... I want Skittles with all the yellows taken out of them. Yeah, you know, just a little work here. I want to mention it because it's right behind us. The Bloodline 1-Up is behind us. There's a couple of moments. The Bloodline Saga, as often referred to, and I'm actually a small portion of the saga, the overall saga, The story with you, the story with the tribal chief, with Roman, you and Jim separating, coming back, all the variables, Sammy, Mr. Paul Heyman. There's a couple things in wrestling we kind of generationally know, stories. And I'll give you some examples. Steve Austin, McMahon, Sting as the crow against Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, the boyhood dream, Rick Flay.

59:16There's these stories that attach to a whole era. And I feel like the Bloodline saga and the Bloodline story, and not just the stuff you did, the output that the individual talents involved have are a massive, massive part and probably will be looked on later in history as things get re-examined. A massive part of WWE's financial upswing, WWE's business boom. massive part if not the largest part and I I'm curious what that feels like to know that it was magic when you were doing it and not only that everyone is kind of eating good because of something that you and your family did and the players that you involved because the bloodline story always had someone opposed to it and always was able to bring them up this This is a story that nobody pulled down, which is a really incredible string of Roman title defenses, tag title defenses, you and him in the hell in the cell.

1:00:18There's these individual moments to it that everyone's growing as a character, his growth, because I was away trying to turn heads with what I was doing. And it's very hard to do that when the tribal chief is becoming a thing, when the Ulafala is becoming a thing, all that. So how do you feel about it? I've heard innings, chapters, all these things. I always kind of consider it a story that's going on, but how do you feel about it now in a sense of where it's at? That's an iconic story right there, Uso. I think the crazy part is we didn't even know we was cooking like that. You know what I'm saying?

1:00:54It was like every week, what are we going to do? Or like, what did we do last week? You know, that's how the bloodline was rolling every single week. didn't even have concrete it almost came to a point where sometimes it would get stale something would happen and and it would like revive the story yeah you know with sammy or like just then just something always happened it was even even example like i felt like we kind of started getting stale a little bit with this bloodline boom uh the uci segment like we like the shoot pop segment whatever yeah that that that sparked something you know it was it was always something those um and and during during the covet arrows i i didn't i learned we just pivoted bro and i didn't know i was a part of that just being in the room with a hundred oh big goose hayman um man just just the top what are we gonna do and then it was almost like uh man we wrestled one time and you know how you can hear everything in the ring I was like you know like in pick up basketball games where you playing basketball you can hear people talk shit you know like that's what we need to do here like I don't think it's and Biggles like captivated it so good it wasn't moves the way when he was talking there with me I would oh like match try to match the acting part and I think that's what elevated that's what switched the game because we was acting through the lenses, you know, because there was no people.

1:02:35Yeah. There was no people. So we'll do something. And him talking, like, just elevated the product more, I think. Yeah. And when the people got back, Goose, I felt like we have to keep some of that style. Yeah. And also for the live people, we got to go too. But put them together. I think that's what made the WWE style today like, like, and you know what they say today, it was like cinema, right? That's all they kept calling us, cinema, cinema, cinema, cinema. And I didn't even know, we were just cooking every week. That doesn't enter the zeitgeist without the bloodline stuff. It's really almost specific to you guys and anyone trying to match it, which is a good thing to try and match.

1:03:18And also, I take pride in all the promos and everything that I've done with my brothers and everything, because even with Big Oose, because when we're in the ring talking together, it's real. Like connected, it's real. It's almost very hard to use because if I can stare at my brothers, I'll laugh. It's fun being in there with siblings too. But like I said, me and you, it'll be real. Like I said, it's real easy to, especially brothers, me and Big Oost, man, I'm gonna do him. And he gonna do me too. But it just comes off, comes off great, man. And you would have never told me it was five years. we're still like kind of you know it's still alive i don't think it's dead oh no there's i don't think it's certain things hit a point where they don't they're not they're never to die yeah you know like the four horsemen don't even ride anymore and they never die nw like it's gone through its iterations and it will go through variables and there will be parts of it that were better than other parts but to be its own character and all this the thing that always impressed me was the individual output.

1:04:24You, Jim, Roman, Sammy, Paul, everyone connected to it. The individual output was very faction-like in a sense that this faction can monopolize the whole show if we want. It can be the best tag match. It can be the best singles match. Paul, Mr. Heyman, that can be the best promo. So what's everybody else doing? That's a scary thing. And I think smart, you know, W2B, Triple H, and in general, smart to go cool. Let them go. Let them roll until somebody better shows up. Until somebody can match that, let them roll. Let them roll. And I think that's just a wise choice. I just, I wasn't here. It's so funny because I'm part of it, but I'm really not here until the end.

1:05:09Man, we was running SmackDown. We were still running house shows. This Bloodline run, that was the last of the heavy set, heavy schedule, man. So I miss that. But I do miss some times, man. Them probably was the funnest moments in my career ever. It was with the Yeet Man stuff. I'm more so alone because I don't travel with my brothers no more. But that, we was together everywhere, bro. I mean, everywhere. I tell you what, have I ever told you a solo told me? And I knew. I was like, yeah, you're Jay's brother. So I couldn't believe him because, A, he wasn't wrong. but also it's because I'm from a different time.

1:05:54This is fair enough. It's been long enough that I could share this, but there's a tag match where he's in there beating up my partner and I jump down on the floor and I start banging the mat, like getting the people into it. You know this, but I'm banging the mat. And he looked at me like he was going to rip my head off and he never looks at me that way. And I thought, oh, I'm curious what that was. And we run the match. nobody come to the back and he goes hey can i just chat you up on something like yeah i mean everything is formal about this now yeah absolutely he goes i don't really like begging for the cheers they'll come and i thought yeah you're right because you've only ever been in tag matches with jimmy j roman yeah you're right buddy there's gonna be a night where you're in there with you're generic guy eight and I'm generic guy four and now we're just hey come on guys let's get behind him you're there's gonna be a night and then I started thinking no there might not be so little may never encounter this moment so in a way I thought I think I looked at him for a long time and just yeah you're right because you're right I don't you're not running that game like we used to run it and you may never be in this situation one day you might appreciate it but The way he said it, I thought, oh, yeah, yeah, well, Solo, you know, you showed up in the biggest program with the big, like, it's different, but he showed right up and he stayed in that spot.

1:07:24That's funny. Right? Oh, my, hey, please keep this on the show, man, so you can see this. Bro, I was. Because I went home. That's true. I went home texting my inner circle about, like, man, have I, like, Solo don't respect me? Like, have I lost my. I thought about it. I thought about it. Like, I'm supposed to lead him. And he's telling me. To don't cheer? And then I thought, no, he's right. It was Hunter finally. I was talking to Hunter. I was like, yeah, no, he's not wrong because every tag match he's been in with somebody who's over. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's someone who's over. Like, come on, you, Jay.

1:08:00You know what I'm saying? That's good stuff. It's a moment. So, you know. I don't like to beg for it. Yeah, don't like to beg for cheers. Oh, man. And finally, Wheatley has a little commercial here. We'd like everybody to see it, the jingle. And we'd like you to add something to it. I'll tell you what. Wheatley's so good, I drink it neatly.

1:08:34We like our guests to replace the word neatly. Wheatley's so good, I drink it. Wheatley's so good, I drink it. Yeetley. Yeah! Come on, dawg. Good job, good job, man. Hey, I don't know if you saw last night. I'm going to live in the shame of it, but I went to give Punk a fist pound. I've seen it. Bro. Bro. He was just like this. And I went, so instead of just bailing on it, I went like this. Like I gave him, I gave it to his own, like myself. Hey, bro. And he never looked at you.