What Do You Wanna Talk About? - Natalya

25:37I loved, I loved. Do you know what I did with my money? Spent it. Yeah. But I'm going to walk you through it i got 500 a week and we'd film tv on wednesday which was i think i also got paid wednesday morning like i got a direct deposit we'd film ovw tv on wednesday and then after the show i would try to take everybody out on 500 to a establishment you can look it up to understand what it is called pts in louisville and uh i would then end up with no money at the end of the that I would, but it was okay. You were always so generous. I had a house, like I had a place and you just go to, it's not like I'm going anywhere.

26:16I'm just going to TV. And you know, then I mentioned multiple mentions of hot dogs on this show because I would eat hot dogs from 4400 Shepherdsville Road, Danny Davis's, his concession stand. I would just grab a hot dog while I was there training, which he didn't love because that was part of the concessions. But that's a big thing about what do you want to talk about? Everyone should understand. We're all about Louis Vuittons, Cadillacs, but we're also about hot dogs. Yeah. We're about like Costco hot dogs. We're my favorite. We're splitting it. We're about, yeah, we're about it. This message is sponsored by Raycon.

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28:05Shop now before they're gone. just click the link in the description or go to buyraycon.com slash roads open to save on Raycon audio products site-wide. In this book, are you talking at all about what I feel like everybody's talking about it lately? And I wanted to bring it up because A, I watched it and it kind of brought a tear to my eye. Oh man, I don't want it to now, but it kind of did. and I thought good for her was the low-key legend stuff. Thank you. Holy smokes. Thank you. What a way to take the feed. Take the feed. Take the news feed. Just own it. In a hard world of just every day there's something new, something viral, something happening in the overall wrestling pantheon.

28:57So just to take it and present in the way you did, hats off to you. It was special. Thank you. Thank you so much. So when I was about halfway through the book, I realized that I was living a lot of my life over the last probably two decades of this tightly woven childhood trauma where I was just trying so hard to be what I thought everybody wanted me to be. yeah and i didn't i just i kept on thinking like even when i was trying to get to wwe or i was trying to you know trying to make characters work i was like what is you know what would they like or what would the audience like or what would my opponent like what would make the girls happy in the locker room maybe this will make them happy this will make them like me more this will make them yeah about halfway through the book i was like i had this epiphany that i needed to just like take a chance on myself yeah and it's funny because i was saying to tj the other day about you i said you're a really big inspiration for me because you had so much courage to take a chance on yourself and your dreams and to do shit that was crazy i mean some of the if you watch if people go back and watch and look up some of your indie stuff you did some crazy stuff yeah you you i mean physically crazy stuff where it was in front of nobody i'm not sure if there was much money involved or anything.

30:18And you were putting yourself out there and reinventing yourself in a way that was, you just took this crazy chance on yourself. And so the low key legend character, it came from the book. It came from me reaching a point in the book. And that's why the book has got so much range in it. It's very funny, but it's also very deep. And there's a very deep story in it where I just kind of reached a breaking point personally, where I was like, are you going to spend the rest of your career just trying to be what you think everybody wants you to be, or are you going to take a chance and be who you really are?

30:49And it was so easy for me to dive into that role because that role really stemmed from the work that I did in the dungeon when I was first learning how to train. My first, everything was in the dungeon. My first lockup, my first drop kick, my first bump, everything was in the dungeon. And I always knew that girl, when I first started, she was just gritty. She had that stew heart grit. And And one day, it was like a couple weeks before WrestleMania, I was feeling a little frustrated. I felt like I was lost. Like I was like, where do I fit in? Because I knew that creatively, you know, Hunter wanted to find something.

31:28He wanted to find something for me where he wanted it to be meaningful. We had talked about finding something meaningful, but sometimes that takes time to find that. Sometimes it takes too much time. And so I just decided, you know what? You got to basically, you can't just wait, Natty. You got to take the bull by the horns. So I got to talking and talked to Josh Barnett and said, Bloodsport was what I did in the dungeon. The dungeon was Bloodsport before Bloodsport was Bloodsport. And Josh and I have trained together. I know Josh very well. Josh believed in me and said, absolutely, let's do it.

32:00I love that. Walked up to Hunter. He was doing a rehearsal at Raw. Everybody and their brother was trying to talk to him. He made time for me. He literally just was like, he just talked to me. And I said, hey, like, and it's so, he's, trust me, like, you know better than anyone, he's somebody that, like, he's approachable, but everybody's trying to get to him, especially when they need an answer. It's something about TV or something that night that's going on live in two hours. Also, other people ruin the approach. You might have something super authentic and sincere and three A-Hoo's have gone up to him and pitched them winning the title.

32:34Yes. And really self-serving and not even done in a tactful way. Just super, ugh. and by the time you get to him you've got him worn out yeah and he's like yeah totally and so he stopped he made the time for me he listened to me and he said i said i would love to do blood sport and it's during like it's during mania weekend he said sure he goes i love it let's do it absolutely i love that and i because i had anxiety that morning i was saying to tj i was like what if he you know doesn't want me to or what if they don't let me or what if they it's again it's what if what if we're like no it was just taking a chance on myself he said yes and then i was like now i'm going to get to work and I'm going to make this, I'm going to blow this up so that like, this is what I want to do.

33:15And I'm not going to ask, I'm going to show them, which is what like Chelsea, Chelsea Green is a perfect example of somebody that she, she doesn't just write down an idea. She shows them, she physically presents it. So being able to do that low key legend character at Bloodsport, it was like an audition. I treated it like an audition. It's, it was trending for two days it went viral people loved it and i think the girl that i wrestled miyu yamashida she's one of the best female wrestlers that's not signed by wwe but she's one of the best in the world she um but you were you're she's one of the best in the world she's amazing so yeah incredible shout out to her but don't don't sell yourself short thanks cody i know this from personal experience the rub is twofold you're getting the street rub and street's not the way to put it but You know what I mean?

34:04There's this underground. Yes, underground. You're also giving a mainstream rub. You're getting people who would never look are looking. And that's why it takes two. It takes two. I made the mistake a long time ago of overly being grateful and thankful. And hey, it was him. It was him. It was us. Yeah. It was us. We made magic together. Exactly. It takes two. There's two names on the marquee. It's why we do this random wrestler shake hands 50 ,000 times. Right. Because I need you. You need me. That's how it works. Yeah. Don't have to love each other. She was phenomenal, but you're right. The magic was in us working together.

34:37Is she going to come work here? She better. Yeah. Miyu. Miyu Yamashita. I'm scared now. She's a badass, but I still whipped her ass. Yeah. Love this. Love this. So I said to Titee, I go, I want to make sure that everybody knows that that performance at Bloodsport was not a fluke. Yeah. So I went to Triple H. I said, can I do NWA? I want to work for Billy Corgan. And Billy's a very close friend of mine. and I said to Billy, I said, give me your best girl and I want to work a match with her. I want to build a program with her. He gave me Kenzie Page. And I said to TJ, I said, my match with Kenzie, I'm going to show everybody that the match with Miu was not a fluke.

35:16Kenzie and I at NWA, we sold out the ECW arena. The match was amazing. It was so much fun. I said to TJ afterwards, I go, I want to make sure that everybody knows that that match with Kenzie and that match with Miu was not a fluke. I asked Hunter if I could work for Booker T. And so I wrestled a girl. T-Book? Yeah, yeah. Well, T-Book. So I asked Booker T, I said, who's your best girl? Who's the girl that's going to push me to my limits? Who's your best girl? And he said, Promise Braxton. So I said, give me Promise. I had this phenomenal match with Promise. And then I asked Josh, I said, I want to wrestle, I want to do blood sport during SummerSlam.

35:56Give me your best girl. He gave me Masha. So my thing was, is it was about proving that I could do this. It wasn't a fluke. I did it over and over and over and over again because I, like you, took a chance on myself. I didn't just rely on Natalia. The thing about Natalia, and I've said this before, but she's very safe. She's very consistent. She's very solid. Consistent, safe. Presentation is guaranteed. Consistent, safe, solid. You know what you're getting, what it looks like. And she's, I mean, listen, I've worked through, I wrestled on a broken ankle. I wrestled Naomi in London with a completely broken ankle because I was booked on the show.

36:35And I just, I'm a person of my word. I like that toxic mentality. I just. I love it. Yeah. I broke my ankle during rehearsal. I did a baseball slide through Naomi's leg. I remember this actually. Yeah. I broke my ankle during the day and they told me, everybody was like, you know, we can pull you from the match. I was, this is me being selfish. I was booked to win. And I was like, I'm not giving up my win. Yeah, right. I'm not giving up my win. So I told everybody I was fine. And they were like, no, no, no. We just need to let you sit it out. You're not fine. You're limping. I wrestled that night.

37:11It was a three-minute match. I walked out like Undertaker. Yeah. I walked out so slow. You would have thought I was Undertaker's daughter for how slow I was walking. I wrestled Naomi with a completely broken ankle. And I was like, I am not giving up my win. This is a sold-out arena. There's 20 ,000 people here. I'm doing my match. And that's Natalia. She's rock solid. And I love that, but she's also safe. She wants to make everyone happy. I want to make the girls happy. And it's not a bad thing, by any means. I love being consistent and reliable and everything else. But I also know that if you keep doing the same things you've always done, you're going to get the same results.

37:48If I want a different result, I've got to dive into something else. So I loved, like you did, you know you took a chance on yourself and it paid off the the chance thing is really unique in a sense that you can ask for permission on a lot of stuff and it's almost like we don't hear when people say yeah sure or they give you the only green light you need is the faintest color of green light that's all and you don't need to double back on it and go how am I doing is it okay no you just go yeah just go until somebody oh hey this isn't no no we can't do this. Just go. And I feel one of the bigger mistakes that all wrestlers make, and we are all guilty of this.

38:31And this is not to knock any positions of where the office is compared to where the talent are and things of that nature. A mistake wrestlers make all the time is they forget how much power is actually within the wrestling talent. How much power is within the human, the wrestler. I don't know if it's the way we're wired or if it's the fact that the checks come from. I don't know what it is, but at a certain point for me, and maybe it's something you discovered with the low key legend or even long before that, a certain point for me, I just stopped giving it power. I have a massive respect and a massive understanding of the infrastructure, particularly with my executive experience now of like, I totally understand and respect it.

39:16But at the end of the day, this show is based upon, you know, I'm looking at Brett and Anvil behind you on that painting. I'm looking at all this. There isn't a wing here for really great executives. And that's not to knock them at all. But I feel like one of the things that gets stripped away is you almost get scared. And I don't know, at a certain point, nothing scares me anymore uh except maybe brock lesnar but nothing besides you know like nothing and that's a good place to be it's a dangerous place to be because then you find out like hey you know there there are things there are borders there are you know guidelines but i'm just i was so excited to see it thank you i was so excited to see it will will will we see more yes there we go yeah you will and i'm manifesting all of it and i'm grabbing it by the horns and i'm running hard with it because I would rather, and this is the big thing, and I saw Dwayne Johnson talking about this when he was doing press for Smashing Machine.

40:16He said, you know, he was like, I just wanted to take a chance on something, and I wanted to do a project for me. Yeah. And he's like, just try it. Just do it. And by the way, that movie, he's the most vulnerable I've ever seen him. He goes to a place where it was like, like I've never seen, like you'd never see him crying and sobbing the way that. I saw it. It's outstanding. ending he should i think win an oscar for it because you just don't especially with somebody that physically yeah like you see how he looks physically and then you see him like i got emotional watching it because you know especially for guys that were trying to make you know pave the way for mma in those early days there wasn't much money involved in it at all and you see him just beside himself with the loss and he's crying and his relationship was falling apart but you see him like it's like for him it was a role that he needed to do for himself i saw that i felt he took that part for himself, for him.

41:08Sure. Did you also get a sense of, because second and third generations, they have twin magic to a degree. We think about each other. It's a strange thing. We shouldn't think about each other, but we do. You'll hear about, oh, such and such, his son is getting into it. Oh, her on NXT, you think about each other. I almost wish there was this collective group chat to get with everybody. And I also know that not everyone will make it because maybe their love is different. Maybe their priorities are different. I'll round this out in terms of about taking a chance with you talking to me now is very motivating because I feel like lately I've been the safest version of me ever.

41:53I've been completely buttoned up and having children is like Donkey and Shrek at the end of the movie where it's like, oh man, I gotta get a job. That's a whole bit like, that's the first thing I thought was, oh, I gotta really, these days are behind me of just kind of wild swings and things of that nature, but it's still wired in my frame that I got to, you have to do that. Otherwise, you're not able to live with your resume. You're not able to live with your body of work if this really wasn't how you wanted to go about doing it. Taking a chance on yourself. Yeah. Big news. WWE and sports fans, the world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, is making its return to New York City.

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43:20Yes. How'd they do? Yes. So what are their real names? Because I couldn't, they have stage names. Dylan and Dalton. Dylan and Dalton. Yes, Dylan and Dalton. So Dylan and Dalton came to our, well, listen, the dungeon is like, the way I look at it is - I was sending them to you. You gotta know somebody that knows somebody that can get them in. I needed them to come to you. And I think Dustin primarily trained them. I mean, Dustin is their trainer and their uncle and he's been everything for them. One of them reminded me of you and the other one reminded me of Dusty. Oh, Dylan reminded you of Dusty.

43:54The youngest one, yeah. So you asked us if they could come in. They were there early. They stayed late. They worked their asses off. There you go. And by the way, our dungeon is meant to be very hard. Oh, I've seen it. It's not fancy. And I don't want, like, listen, TJ and I, if we wanted to do fancy, we could do a little fancy. I don't want it fancy. I want it to be gritty. I want it to be real. It's a room that's only big enough to hold the ring. Yeah. And there's a bathroom, and there is no air conditioning. that's how it should be and we don't want air conditioning because well i'll tell you why we don't have air conditioning because angelo dawkins won't let us get air conditioning guess what he's got a sweat sweat yes and i get that right away we just you go in there and you work your ass off so dylan and dalton came in and they were ready to work you could i could tell at first they we did a we did a few days with them yeah and they were they worked so hard but tj goes he's just like this is like watching Cody and Dusty wrestle because they were they you could this is the power of genetics I'm telling you this is the power of genetics so I was watching them throw punches like it was like it was crazy it was uncanny we have all the footage I keep all the footage anybody that ever trains with us I always keep the footage because sometimes there's magic that happens in there Ilya Ilya Dragunov he's been training with us cheers to him by the way new United States champion yes Welcome back.

45:20Cheers. Cheers. He came in. Ilya came in and blew everybody's minds in the dungeon. He started basically acting like it was WrestleMania in the dungeon. I love that. And that's what your nephew, their nephews, right? Yeah. They were wrestling. I told TJ, go, Dylan and Dalton were wrestling like it was WrestleMania. You know, even though I know they're not established, they're still getting their feet wet, they're still, for how green they are, they work their asses off. I'm excited at this because I put the initials of all of the nephews and grandkids, Dusty's grandchildren. I put everyone on my boots for WrestleMania 40.

45:55The initials are on the inside of the boot. I genuinely thought in that moment, none of them are going to enter the wrestling space. It wasn't because I didn't think they could. I just thought it ended with me. I mean, finish the story. I thought it ended with me. And then I see how far it's progressing. Oh, they're going to wrestle. Yeah, and how it's advancing. They're definitely going to wrestle. And it's not even, it's very exciting. the idea that they're into this and they can do something. And I always tell them, the biggest thing for them I want them to know is just make sure you're in love with this.

46:25Yeah. And I was so glad they went to you. And the reason I was so glad they went to you is not just because of the grittiness, not just because of the education you and TJ are providing, but you have to break out of the road stuff. Yeah. Right? I love a Barry Windham match more than anybody, but there's one guy in this room, Ben Brown, who knows who Barry Windham is. Maybe two. Right? It's not... It's 2025. And they're talking to me about these Barry tags. You need to go somewhere that's completely, Stu Hart's going to train very different than Vern Gagne trained. Vern Gagne's going to train very different than Bill Watts trained.

46:58And all that training still has trickled down. Dusty trains the way he was taught by Joe Blanchard. Like, or he did train. Dustin trains because Skandar Akbar. We're all products. Al Snow got me. I just wanted them to experience something very new. And there was, and gritty, and hardworking, and a place that really wouldn't, they could have been welcome there and been warmly received, but they would have known right away if they were cutting it or not. Exactly. They had to work hard. And that's the thing about our ring is that that's why, I hate to say this, but it's invite only. And the reason - Look at that.

47:31It's like the magic castle. The reason why, the reason why is because TJ and I, we want to have it emulate what my grandfather had in the original dungeon. Yeah. My grandfather, Sue, he never took a dollar from anyone, but he wanted to train with the very best in the world. And some of the very best pro wrestlers that ever, like Grella Monsoon, trained in the dungeon. My grandfather wanted, he wanted to train with the best and if he didn't like you and he didn't feel that you respected the industry, he didn't want to take your money because he didn't want to see you again. Would Stu, Stu famous for, would he stretch everybody?

48:08Or I always was of the thought that Stu stretched the ones who didn't have it. Or was it everybody? everyone okay everybody was and that's the thing why grandfather didn't take money is because he wanted to beat everyone up right okay so everybody's getting stretched the good the bad my dad everybody's getting stretched my dad was the strong like one of the strongest men in the nfl and my grandfather was beating him senseless yeah like like like you hear stories of people screaming through the the vent in the house well because but he wasn't it wasn't like he was putting them in submission wrestling holes gotta know it hurts and so the thing with tj and i don't beat anyone up like that in the dungeon but we want to work with people that have passion so with dylan and Dalton, they have passion.

48:44They understand that they need work, but you know what I liked about them more than anything? What? Etiquette. Oh, that. Their etiquette was great. It's like. Give me some of the wrestling etiquette. Yeah. Like wrestling etiquette. It's life etiquette. It's like. A lot of thank yous. Like thank you. You know, thank you and appreciation and here's my thing. If you're going to be, if you're going to be five minutes late, 30 minutes late, an hour late, two hours late, shoot me a text. Let me know. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. Like, let me know, hey, I'm going to miss half the practice, but it's because there was a crazy accident on the highway.

49:17Life came up. Yeah. Dr. Tom used to always talk to us about that. He'd say, don't bullshit. Don't lie. Just tell me what's going on and we're good. The boys had great etiquette. They were the first ones at practice. They were the last ones to leave. Anything that they were asked to do, even if it was stuff that they weren't really sure that they could do, they still tried it. Then the next time they came in, everything that we had worked on the day before they had processed it and did it so they just they had really good wrestling etiquette and they were grateful and then afterwards they like sent tj and i this really nice card and like it was just so sweet they were just so sweet good boys but they worked hard if they didn't work hard we wouldn't give a shit about the greeting card afterwards they gotta they gotta work hard yeah that makes total sense but we yeah we love we loved having them so tell them they're welcome back i've gone the conversation mainly not talking a lot about tj because i spent a chunk of time I'm talking about TJ once before on this pod.

50:10I think when I was talking to Nikki, and I think TJ just needs to come on the pod because there's so much. TJ needs to be on this. For sure. There's so much to talk about, so many funny stories that have happened, but also this unique, like-minded, parallel path in life that led me back to being just in his presence and being around him often, although he's doing his own thing and working. TJ leading the charge, helping develop the women's division. you being the tenured elder statesman we don't like to use the word elder but wrestling the statesman or stateswoman of the locker room your power couple ripple through the waves of pro wrestling tell me about it I mean I it's funny because the older I get the more I feel the happier I am and I used to sometimes like get scared of getting older because I was like what if people think I'm too old and I just can't do this anymore The older I get now, the more I feel like I just feel so excited about my career.

51:12I feel so excited about where the company's going. I feel so excited about the people that I'm working with. The locker room, like I love the girls in the locker room. Like Bailey, I love being in a locker room with her. There's so many. You mentioned always wanting to make the girls in the locker room happy. Yes. Right? And I think, again, it's just that recovering people pleaser thing. But I understand what I went through when you're trying to put a match together and you're just trying to stand out and you're just trying to like make your mark and you're just like, we all get in our own heads.

51:39And so I want to make sure that every girl that I work with, I worked with Ivy Nile the other day and she was so - You worked dark with her. I did. Yeah, I saw that on the sheet. I said to TJ, she's so good. She's so underrated. But I really wanted to make sure that Ivy like got a lot in because I was like, I'm already established, but we need to show the audience who she is. Yeah. Also, because I'm going to beat her at the end. There it is. But she was amazing. but TJ is such a big part of our women's division. And I think that like, I just think, yes, you need to get him on here because he's, he doesn't do a lot of interviews.

52:12TJ is actually very shy. TJ, um, when you, when you get to know him and he's comfortable with you, he's a little asshole, but, but we will bleep that out. But, um, but he's, he's actually like very introverted. He doesn't open up to everyone. It takes a minute to get, he's like, he's, he's, he's like a cat, but, um, but the girls, he's, he's such an important part of our women's division because he always finds a way to help every woman shine. And he's, you know, he just, he sees something in everyone because he was also an underdog for most of his career. So he doesn't want to leave anyone out.

52:46He's like, okay, if this is the girl that we're trying to get over right now, the agenda is let's get her over. He's like, how can we get her over, but still help this person? And the girls see that and they recognize that. And there's a level of trust there. I do want to thank you for, I can thank you for a million things, but one of them that's pretty special to me is I really appreciate taking care of little Brody.

53:14I love Brody and I love Nolan. And when their dad passed away, I know that you were there during that time and that you have taken on a role for them that is when you're a little boy growing up and you don't have a dad. I know that like you're a very big part of their life and it's fun I see it all the time with Brody because Brody you're like his north star you're his you're his like you know it's funny because Brody sent me this text one day and he goes we train with Brody and by the way Brody couldn't just come unless he proved himself no I know I said I said to Brody I said you gotta I said you gotta prove yourself yeah I can't I can't just let everybody come into our ring unless you show me that you know Brody proved himself he earned his spot but Brody sent me this text and he goes Natty I'm so sorry I can't come to practice today Cody's surprising us he's taking us to Disney World oh yeah gotta get out there he was it's like and then TJ said to me he goes Cody's like the busiest guy in the whole company right now he was at the time we were like I think I think we were we were getting ready to go on a European tour or something like that and he goes Cody is like the busiest guy in the world but like he's making time for people in ways you're showing up for people especially for Brody you know losing your dad at 10 years old in such a tragic way where like It was very hard for those kids.

54:30When Big Rig passed away, one of the things that I was really, it was nice to see the wrestling community come out, support probably one of the most loved guys in the history of any locker room. What worried me was what happens the next day. Right. You know, and the next day after that, and just he found a good spot with you guys. We loved him. Yeah, he's hardworking and Nolan's such a beautiful kid. They're good. So when I see him there because I get the clips and you've sent me the clips and he's training so hard and whatever he's going through, it's special. So I really – Thank you. No, no.

55:11Thank you because you've made that a special place. It's a safe zone. Yeah. And I'm really careful with Brody because he's still just a kid. But I think they're great kids and we love them. And it's funny because TJ and I, we will wrap this up. TJ and I don't really want to have kids at all. We're not, we've kind of made, I just, I've never, I took care of my dad. My dad was like my child. My dad was my child. So I didn't, I've never wanted to have kids, but I see TJ. And TJ and I are fine with that, but the way he is with Nolan, TJ and Nolan are like peas in a pod. Oh, they're buds? They're best friends.

55:46Yeah. They're like the same person. So the way TJ is with Brody and Nolan, it's like, okay, we're not going to have kids, but Brody and Nolan are going to be like our like stepkids or our surrogate kids. We made Brody Leilani's Godfather, and he asked me the funniest question. He asked me, should he watch The Godfather?

56:09I'm so sorry, little B, if I'm putting you on blast, but I told him no. It's not applicable to... You don't need to, but yeah, he's... They're just such sweet kids. Yeah, I said you got to come to the christening and a couple of things, but I think you don't need to hold meetings and murder anybody or do crime. I like to think of myself with Wheatley American Vodka, we dub ourselves the American Dream Team. I've changed my team pretty regularly. Wheatley's always part of it. If you had a team going into zombie apocalypse, war games, think four, think five, but we've had plenty. Who is on your American Dream Team?

56:51or in this case, American-Canadian dream team. Now, does it have to be wrestlers? No, it can be whomever. So how many do I get to pick? Four? Four is a good... Four to five we like, but we've had whole teams picked. And it can be men and women? Yeah. Golden State Warriors were on somebody. Well, TJ loves Steph Curry. So can I say Steph? Yeah, Steph Curry's in. I think Steph Curry... I mean, TJ also loves MJ. Can I say MJ? does he have to be actively participating? No, no. Okay, we'll say MJ. Can I say a couple wrestlers? Yeah, I mean, you can, it's your team. My team, I'll say Bianca Belair. Great one.

57:31Because Bianca is just rock solid as a human being and she's an awesome performer. I love her. Yep. And Beth Phoenix. Can I say Beth? Oh, the Glamazon. Glamazon. We went this whole podcast without mentioning her. Got her right into the end. The Glamazon, if I was going to be stranded on a desert island, I would have her on my team. With the Glamazon? Yes. It's a pretty good team. She's a badass and she will fight through anything. So I know it's a weird motley crew of people. But you have Steph Curry, Michael Jordan. Bianca Belair. Bianca Belair. And the Glamazon. I think it's a great team. That's amazing.

58:03Well, thank you. Thank you, Cody. Thank you so much. And we'll have to get TJ on here and hopefully you'll be back. And please, everyone, buy the book. Buy it. The Last Heart Beating. Natty's a published author. If you buy it and show me you bought it, I'll follow you back on X. So you got to show me authentically that you bought it. Enjoy the book. Cody's going to follow you guys. I'm following you back. Thank you, Cody. It's happening. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Natty.

58:28Here on What Do You Want to Talk About, we have a special game. Natty, of course, had to go and make a flight, but we're still going to make her answer the question. The famous Wheatley jingle. Baca soda. With Wheatley. Wheatley is so good, I drink it. This song right here is for the red, white, and blue. You got good taste, and you drink like a two. Wheatley is so good at drinking deep deep Wheatley American Vodka Wheatley is so good, you drink it Sweetly, because this girl has a sweet tooth