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21:00Sam Roberts:When he arrives and he gives this title. The guy that Adam Pearce has there. But that Roman is sitting, the reason Adam Pearce has not fired Jacob Fatu is because Roman says you can't yet. Yeah. And Roman had to sign off on Jacob arriving to WWE. So of course you'd have to sign off on him leaving. Right, right, right. I punch, I clock him in, I clock him out. That's the way this works. I'm the OTC baby. I mean, I couldn't, I thought, and Adam Pearce going like, you know, I told you last week I said, I don't know. I'm glad Roman said that to him. What do you want? Credit for being right? you know like you know i if you just listen to me oh my god this guy no wonder he had the night that he had that's how he started it you want to get what you're adam peers is catching a lot of strays from you they're not strays they're direct they're direct they're not strays because of the way he's acting he's out of his mind he's not having control of everything and then when and whenever any little thing goes what the way he said it would go he goes like this well you know I did tell you.

21:59Sam Roberts:It's a tough job. What is? Being the general manager of Monday Night Raw. Nick Aldis seems to do it okay. And he doesn't come out, you know, need any drink. He looks like a million bucks every week on SmackDown. He's got three hours to control. Okay? And he seems to be doing it just fine. And he's got Dan Housen to deal with. That is a lot to deal with. I mean, he's cloning himself. He's got superstars cloning themselves. But he doesn't have Brock Lesnar on retiring. Well, Adam Pearce didn't realize he had that. It was tough. It's tough. It's tough. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's the gig. You know, I have to be able to say the gig's not getting done.

22:35So he shows up, you know, and you're right. You're right. The intern was there with Roman's championship. I do love, too, that Roman doesn't travel with it.

22:42Sam Roberts:Crazy. It's the only time it's ever happened. I know. No other champion could get away with that. Right. Right. But they all say it, you know, oh, I got to bring it to the airport. And then TSA wants to see it. They want to take a picture. Roman's like, you'll have this for me here. I have a guy. yeah care of that where's my handler right because it is true it's like it's not like roman needs to wear the title when he goes to publics no you know what i mean he doesn't need to carry it with him i do imagine he walks in though and everyone in publics acknowledges for sure for sure do you think that the music hits when the door opens boom boom boom i hope so i think so i think i i would hope i did and if not i would volunteer for that job i'm just following around with a little speaker just so everybody can know to acknowledge the tribal chief i think people know people do but the music would help yeah no it would help i mean it's a nice touch it's aura um as roman is talking to adam pierce about the fact that like you can't fire jacob not yet because i'm gonna go call him out roman is saying i'm going to call him out and you hear in the distance

23:58and roman is livid he's like how am i supposed to call this guy out he's already walking to the ring and adam pierce is mad but also embarrassed because he's got the big oost next to him he's got the tribal chief next to him and he's got an answer for the fact that jacob's already on his way out to the ring and so and i don't know you know who was manning that station but clearly it started off adam pierce's night in a tough way because jacob fatu now goes to the ring and he says that he'd like roman reigns to bring his punk ass out to the ring right now right now which it's like you know if you're the tribal chief you don't want anybody talking about you being a punk ass you don't want to say right now but i do love when jacob calls people punk ass i I mean, yeah, because he means it.

24:46Sam Roberts:It's the coolest. It's the only thing. Yeah, it's like there's never been a more authentic use of punk ass. And what's Roman going to do? Oh, maybe later. Right. He's got to go out there. Well, he should put out there, though. Like, by the way, I was coming out anyway. Like, just so everybody knows, I was coming out regardless. I'm not coming out because he's calling me out. You heard me back there. I was going to call him out. So I am coming out, but I was doing it anyway. I said it first. I said it first. That's fair. The Usos, though, they came out. And Jimmy, who is trying to be the cooler heads prevails guy, is trying to talk to Jacob.

25:26Like, what are you doing?

25:27Sam Roberts:Yeah, he's talking some sense into him. He was like, you were supposed to acknowledge Roman Reigns. This is how it goes. Right. You said you would do anything to bring money to your family. Right. You're going to screw it all up, he said. And you're going to get fired. Right. And you're going to end up right back where you were. And I just love the idea, though, that Jimmy's sitting there going like, I'm going to talk some sense into him. And Jacob's like, what do you think this is? And Jay's pacing around. Crash out Jay is my favorite Jay. He's just ready to explode at any moment. This is my favorite Jay.

26:03I love this version of Jay Uso. I feel like it's the real Jay Uso. It's the most honest version of Jay Uso. He's just not here for any of it anymore.

26:12Sam Roberts:And Jimmy's just trying to keep it. It's all right. It's all right. Like amongst everybody, he's dealing with Jacob. He's dealing with Jay. He's trying to make sure Roman's cool. He's like, all right, guys, we got a good thing here. Let's not blow it. And all of a sudden, Jay goes in for the attack. Jacob's right there to hit Jay. Jimmy's like, oh, man, like my brother's gotten me into another fight, which is I'm sure takes him right back to growing up. Oh, Jay's got me into another fight. Growing up or yesterday. Or yesterday. Yeah, I got to go. I got to go get his back now. and Jacob is able to take out both Usos right there.

26:46It was one point that Jay hit Jacob in the back with a steel chair and it was just nothing. Nothing. No, Tongan Death Grip takes Jay out too. Here comes -

26:58Sam Roberts:He's going right to the Tongan Death Grip. Oh, absolutely. And I mean, and Jay is just down. Here comes Roman. And I love this because Jacob is acting like a total killer here. He's applying Tongan death grip after Tongan death grip and Roman comes out and just the stare of Roman Reigns stops Jacob dead in his tracks. Because it's like, this is it. This is again, this is the battle that we're looking for. And even in like, tonight specifically, I noticed just looking at the difference in these two individuals, the way Roman is just sitting there looking like wealth, looking like a boss with the hair slicked back, with the beard groomed, with the nice everything, you know, looking like the champion.

27:49And Jacob just looking like he's ready for a fight. And Roman getting in the ring. And I swear, you should have heard me today on the radio going like, you know what? I think tonight's going to be the night for words. I don't think it's going to be physicality tonight. I said that.

28:04Sam Roberts:What an idiot. I mean, talk about your all time. I hope the callers light you up tomorrow. They should. They should. I mean, they know better. I'll just, I'll somehow twist it around on them. But I would deserve it if that were, if that, if. Hey, I was listening to you last week. You're like, I don't even remember the last time I was wrong. Right. Well, guess what? I won't remember tomorrow either. We're going to keep moving on. Love how that works. Yeah. Isn't it great? Prove me wrong. So it wasn't words. It was physicality. And Roman's going after Jacob. But once again, he goes for that Superman punch, and boom, Jacob catches him.

28:40Tongan, death grip, takes Roman out, but before Roman can go all the way out, the Usos are back in, spear, super kick, spear, super kick. They end up getting Jacob down. They end up hitting Jacob with that 1D. They tie Jacob up in the ropes.

28:58Sam Roberts:Superman punch, Superman punch. The three of them start beating him down. Yeah, you're right. it's super kick, it's super kick, it's Superman punch, it's Superman punch. And then just when Jacob can't take anymore, they finally, and again, we were talking last week about this guy being an animal. They have to tie him up to do this to him. And then they finally untie him and put him right in the position so that Roman can spear him and take him out. Ooh, aha. Which, by the way, acknowledge my tribal chief. He didn't do it by himself. See, I was going to ask you that because you are one who always defends Roman Reigns, defends his schedule, defends everything that Roman Reigns does.

29:45Sam Roberts:And I was going to bring forward to you that. I'm an honorary ooze. You are? That's official. Well, not from Roman. From Jacob, you're an honorary ooze. Bloodline. You can tell Jacob he's wrong? No. Not right. Especially right now? No. No. Absolutely not. Now's not the time. But I was going to bring forward to you that the haters would criticize Roman Reigns for not being able to do it by himself. Roman Reigns could not take out Jacob Fatu by himself. So the haters are right? No. The haters would tell you Roman Reigns cannot do it by himself, period. It meaning do the thing, regardless of opponent.

30:21I'm saying with Jacob Fatu, tonight, he could not do it by himself. in the past he has not been able to do it by himself at backlash he he beat jacob i mean there was an exposed turnbuckle there was you know a referee in bad positioning but he beat him without interference sure but tonight roman could not get that done by himself not tonight which makes you wonder what's going to happen when it's the two of them again and his tribal combat I mean when they're leaving And first of all I also Listen Roman first Not doing it alone I went And then Roman after the beatdown That he didn't do by himself Telling Adam Pearce you can fire him Do whatever you want I don't know about that I don't want to question my tribal chief too much

31:17Sam Roberts:Sounds like you might be I don't know about that you sure about that are you sure about that

31:27that's when we hear the gasps from the ring roman roman tribal combat and that's where the honors is returned to our tribal chief that's where the honor is returned to roman reigns because he puts his hand down over adam pierce's microphone which again do you think adam pierce was going to fire him yeah that's what adam pierce's well that's what his expressed intent was i think he wanted to when roman was like nah and he put his hand over his microphone i accept i accept and adam pierce is like all right well i guess that's that then i guess that i guess we're they're the ones making the decisions then and we get it tribal combat and like i said there's been there's been two other tribal

32:14Sam Roberts:combats ever before jay uso and solo i think those were the two yeah which roman obviously won But we get it at Clash in Italy, Tribal Combat, Jacob Fatu, Roman Reigns, World Heavyweight Championship. And this is one of those where it's like, you know, it really strikes me as it being difficult to have any questions coming off of this match. Now that it's official and now that that's the stipulation, it feels as though like this is kind of the answer the questions and be done with it match. Meaning Jacob either wins the championship and Roman has to sit there and go like, yeah, I lost the championship that quickly.

33:00Or Jacob doesn't win the championship and just goes, yeah, I'm not getting what Roman has.

33:05Sam Roberts:And has to acknowledge Roman Reigns. Maybe I do. Maybe I do have to acknowledge him. That's a choice that I could see Jacob not wanting to do that. that's a choice that Jacob would have to make. Either Jacob acknowledges Roman or Jacob maybe has to go off and do his own thing for a while, you know? But I think it's one of those things where it's like, it's one or the other here. You know what I mean? It's not sort of a - I mean, if he doesn't acknowledge him and he keeps acting in the manner that he's currently been acting, Jacob's job could no longer exist. I would love to see Adam Pearce to actually pull the trigger and see what happens to Adam Pierce.

33:43Give a guy like Jacob Fatu nothing to lose and see what happens.

33:47Sam Roberts:I mean, Jimmy Uso tried to lay it out for him too. I know he did, and look what happened. How'd that work out for Jimmy? Not great. Poorly, I would say. I'd go so far as to say poorly. But at the same time, I was talking about Roman having help from other people. Tribal combat's going to allow a lot to go down. A lot. That is true. So we'll see what happens, man. You know, before we get back to Raw, we got to talk about the main event that's happening in your own home. Of course. You know, I mean, life is basically WrestleMania every single day. Every day. You know, a high stakes gauntlet where the responsibilities, they just keep coming and coming.

34:29It feels like you're constantly making trade-offs between the things you have to do and the things you actually love. That's why we're celebrating these moments where you refuse to tap out, you know? it's time for the Minute Maid juice break where we highlight those everyday wins that deserve a massive pop

34:47Sam Roberts:you want to go first? no

34:52am I going?

34:53Sam Roberts:you usually go first but you often complain about it so I thought I'd ask no it says I'm supposed to go first I don't know why this you can go first I mean I will tell you this was kind of a this was kind of this was significant I would say Okay. Okay. This was just yesterday. You know, it was Sunday. I'm sitting there. You know, you have a lazy Sunday. Love it. I was thinking about going to see the Chronicles of Narnia like any other lazy Sunday. But I go, right? And I'm going like, man, you know, the last thing I want to do is make this bed, right? I want to go downstairs, hang with the kids, maybe put a movie on or something and just relax.

35:35Not have to worry about any responsibilities. And making the bed. It's a little responsibility, but it's something, you know? But then I thought to myself, man, I'm going to be glad I did this later tonight.

35:47Sam Roberts:Future you. So you know what I did? Instead of tapping out and taking the easy way out and just going and, yeah, whatever. I'll let it take care of itself. I did it. I made the bed, put in little hospital corners and everything, made sure it was nice and tight. And I was so glad that I did that because when I went that night, I had a great night's sleep. and it was like, it was all, to put in that extra bit of work made all the difference later. And honestly, when I got in the bed Sunday evening, I said, thank God I didn't tap out, you know? It was worth it. It was worth it ultimately. Well, similarly, this weekend.

36:26Yes.

36:27Sam Roberts:Beautiful weekend. Gorgeous weather. Okay. I was with my child. Right. At the playground, at the park. Cool, cool, cool. So we're walking over there. Okay. And on the way to the park, I notice that there's, you know, some rappers on the ground. What, like hip hop stars? No, like candy rappers. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Debris. Sure. Trash. Sure. Now I could have just walked right past this debris. Yeah. Wasn't mine. No. I didn't leave it there. No. So I guess it's not really my problem. It's not your responsibility. But it could also just pick up the trash and make this park a nicer place for everyone around.

37:14Okay.

37:15Sam Roberts:So I didn't want to tap out all those litter bugs around. Okay. So I did. I picked up the trash on my way to the playground, threw it away, continued on with the beautifully clean park that we can all enjoy how come yours is always like something that the whole community benefits from just trying to be a good person it's just not even in the spirit of this thing that we do it's not it makes it it's totally sets are you criticizing me for being a good person and then you say that and then i can't minute made in wwe We are tag teaming your daily grind, bringing main event energy to life's everyday matches.

38:01It's just supposed to be like a little thing that you do. It was a little thing.

38:05Sam Roberts:It was picking up the trash. Oh, the whole park's clean. Together, we're turning the toughest rounds into moments worth cheering for. From the ring to real life, Minute Maid and WWE are here to help you bring the juice when the day tries to tap you out. never tap out on taste bring the juice well I'll tell you what we got a big show coming up on Saturday Saturday night's main event massive and part of Saturday night's main event is of course our intercontinental championship match penta will be defending the title against all-ego Ethan Page, who was interviewed briefly by Michael Cole on Monday Night Raw, but after that conversation...

38:55Sam Roberts:Mike. Well, that's what he called him. You and I got the chance to have all-ego Ethan Page here on the Raw Recap. We welcome to the Raw Recap the one and the only all-ego Ethan Page. Ethan, how are you, man? I'm okay. Why only okay?

39:18Jacob Fatu:I've already done this today. And I actually got to select my questions. I was given enough time to prepare not only myself, but the interviewer or whatever interviewer, just like you guys. So this is very last minute. I feel unprepared, but go on. I'm a professional. Well, I mean, I appreciate you giving us the time. You should. Yeah, and I do. Well, I do. I think Megan does. Oh, thank you. Greatly. Greatly appreciate it. Yes. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.

39:51Sam Roberts:And your jawline looks fantastic. Okay. I see you watch the show. So what is it? He's right. I do. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll start here. What is the difference? You made this clarification tonight that it's not about ego. It's about confidence. What is the difference between ego and confidence from your perspective?

40:17Jacob Fatu:Look, I mean, the phrase all ego, very marketable, and you can understand exactly what I'm about the second you hear it. I mean, that's kind of how I operate. I'm very meticulous with everything and deliberate with everything. But if you're going to insult me by using the word ego in a descriptive way to belittle me, yeah, I'm going to definitely lock in and explain to you that this is not ego. This is not because of a insecurity. It's not a knee-jerk reaction coming from somebody who doesn't believe in themselves. No, I believe wholeheartedly with every ounce of me. I have been documented saying that I already believe that I am good enough to be the world heavyweight champion.

41:09Jacob Fatu:I have chosen to go after the Intercontinental Championship out of respect to its lineage and what it represents in the history of this company. Took me over, I don't know, 20 years to get to Monday Night Raw? About. You know what? 1921. This is very important to me. I'm not doing this in my early 20s that I can, you know, flub up or get arrested or fired. No, I'm 36 years old. This is it. Intercontinental championship. And then off to the races like every great before me. I was insulted by Michael Cole. I understand I get it and I mean you're right for as long as as you've been in the wrestling industry and as long as you've been working to get to the spot that you're in it is good to hear the reverence that you have for the intercontinental championship and the kind of awareness is that something that you know going over the last two decades that you thought about I mean for me as a fan the intercontinental title is something that is so associated not only with wwe and with people who have made a claim in wwe history but i mean that list of of champions those are the best wrestlers to have wrestled in wwe is that is that how you see this title yeah and then they always end up becoming the best world champion whether it be wcw or wwe these are all greats these are all fantastic greats that ended up having long historic lineages in this company wherever people came from they all ended up here and they all ended up with the intercontinental championship as the launching pad.

43:09Jacob Fatu:It's factual. And I don't think Penta even understands what he's holding. I mean, I don't know. You know, I would have to ask Penta that question, but Penta is another person like you. I mean, Penta has... Don't bother me. You can ask him whatever you want. I'm sure he won't take the time to prepare questions like I did for Michael. I didn't mean that to be insulting. All I meant was that when you talk about your story of how long it took you to get to Monday Night Raw, Penta has been on a roll here for a year and change, but Penta took a similar role. Penta also was wrestling everywhere for 15 years before he got to WWE and before he got to Monday Night Raw.

43:58Do you see... Only 15? Well, I don't know. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me.

44:05Jacob Fatu:Good luck comparing when you don't know the details.

44:08Sam Roberts:Oh, okay. That's tough. Yeah.

44:11Jacob Fatu:No, that's good. What did you watch an Instagram video? And now all of a sudden you're an expert. No, I'm not. I've tracked both of your careers. I'm a fan of everything that you guys have done, but I think there are similarities in the road that you took him. And Penta is a unique opponent in the sense that most people that you'd be paired up with, or at least a lot of people, maybe they didn't have to fight as much as you had to fight to get to the spot that you're in in WWE but Penta did I guess you know why he's a unique opponent why none of us know who he is and he's out here living his life giving terrible advice to impressionable people telling them zero miedo I don't know if you speak Spanish either of you I don't know much about either of you but that That means zero fear.

45:03Yeah, it's pretty asinine.

45:06Jacob Fatu:Imagine living your life with zero fear. It's stupid. I send my kids out every single day with a worry. Be careful. Head on a swivel. That's how you survive. Penta sending all the youth, the WWE fans, what we call this, the WWE universe. Yeah. Well, the WWE Universe gets terrible advice from someone who hides their identity and doesn't stand behind what he says. Now, you guys don't like what I say. Most people don't. I'm okay with it. I've learned to be okay with that. But I do it with my face, my identity, and I own it all with a smile. And he paints his, hides his, and gets away with murder.

45:56Jacob Fatu:he's not wrong. Unique opponent, though. That's a good way to put it. People say, I have propaganda and I know how to spin things, and yet look at the WWE. Look what they're doing for Penta.

46:09Sam Roberts:So, Ethan, when you arrived on Monday Night Raw, you illustrated earlier in this conversation how it's taken you almost 20 years to get here to Monday Night Raw. Was this Intercontinental Championship going after it? Is this just step one in Ethan Page making an impact on the main roster?

46:31Jacob Fatu:I mean, I'm here for everything. All of it. Everyone that you think I can't beat, I will beat. Every championship you think I won't hold, I will hold. Actually, not even what I want. What everyone else wants, I will have. That's just been the story of my life. I said it to Mike today in his interview. some people are just born under the stars clearly i was yeah i mean must be nice um yes dude my father's been telling me that since the day i was born and i believed it i truly was born under the stars hand selected i don't understand where you like the lineage that you come from where you go on one end you say that you were raised to believe that you were born under the stars but then the generation under you you make them leave the house with their head on a swivel in a worry yeah not everyone is a mean oh wow it's also interesting because no no i have a question i have a question i have a question yeah what makes me special if everyone is the same nothing would if that were the case if everyone were the same there nothing would make you special yeah so what you want me to just start passing out secrets to everyone my children included how many families have you seen fall apart in the end a lot huh i might be raising my enemies that's that's actually quite uh i don't know if it's smarter or or paranoid but i will say i will say that something that that i was i was thinking about on the um you know watching the way you've done a business just over the last several way can we pause yes i feel very bad she had a question she wanted to ask thank you i interrupted her you barely let her speak it's more your show hers please let her do it come on thank you i appreciate that but i was just

48:28Sam Roberts:i was just gonna say how you know i find it interesting that you come on here and you talk about this great respect that you have for the intercontinental championship and all of the greats who have held the intercontinental championship yet in your instructions to Mike, as you call him, I call him Michael Cole. You said that you wanted to rename.

48:49Jacob Fatu:You're trying to climb the political ladder here. I couldn't give a crap about anybody in this company. Wow.

48:54Sam Roberts:But you said you wanted to rename the title, the Ethan Page championship after having all of this respect.

49:00Jacob Fatu:Any of, first of all, let me correct you by saying I don't respect the wrestlers. Okay.

49:06Sam Roberts:Okay.

49:06Jacob Fatu:So you said I have all this respect in the world for all these greats before me no that's not true i respect what the championship did for them i'm gonna do it better i am going to take the intercontinental championship to places it's never been before

49:24it's been to a lot of places no one has it's been across uh it's been inter it's through multiple continents uh starting in rio coming back you know all over the place but but what I've noticed about you, Ethan, and you talked about the meticulous way that you've been going about. You guys notice a lot. Well, that's our job. We're analysts. You know, we've got to notice everything so we can analyze it. That there have been, over the last few months, a lot of talent call-ups from NXT and a lot of fresh faces on the main roster. And there is a lot of discussion about where they came from. There's a lot of discussion about the fact that they were that they're from NXT a lot of discussion about the type of impact that they're making on the main roster but for you it feels like almost instantly you left all of that behind for you you have done an incredible job actually of of immediately pushing a narrative forward where when Ethan Page comes out so look look look this is the thing

50:31Jacob Fatu:This did not start when I debuted on Monday Night Raw. I have disagreed with this egregious phrase of call up or getting called up or my least favorite phrase, the main roster. When I was in NXT, that was the brand that I worked for. That was the jersey that I wore. The team that I had to play for. Well, I've just been traded. When I wore the NXT jersey, still the best player on the field. I just wear a different jersey now. I've been dangerous in NXT. I will be dangerous on Monday Night Raw. And if for some reason they want to strike a deal and send me to SmackDown so I can take the belt from Cody, that sounds great too.

51:23Jacob Fatu:Look, I said it and I'm going to do it. I want it all. And I wanted it all when I was in NXT and it hasn't changed. I said this when I was there, and I'm so happy that I can say it while I'm actually in the seat that I knew I would take. There is no main roster. Wherever you put Ethan Page, it is the best show in the WWE. You know, Megan and I interviewed Penta in this room, and when he was in this room, he pointed to the wall where there's a replica of the WWE championship hanging, and Penta said that he was coming for it all. Penta said that he was coming to be the world champion. Penta said, I mean, maybe, you know, not quite as combative in tone, but he said similar things to you about coming for all of it.

52:16Yeah. With him entering this match with a very similar mindset to you. Yeah. What happens if you lose to Penta at Saturday night's main event?

52:27Jacob Fatu:well here's the thing penta looked at a replica championship and said he wants that well you can go to shopwb.com and get that i looked at penta in his stupid painted up face and said i'm coming for your intercontinental championship very specific i don't plan on buying one using my employee discount no thank you i'll be taking penta's championship the intercontinental championship, not a replica. Yeah, we're much different. I guess that's accurate. I guess that's accurate. Well, Ethan, congratulations on the opportunity that awaits you at Saturday night's main event. Congratulations on your success thus far on Monday night, Ron, the fact that it does seem that everything is going according to plan.

53:17What are you? What, I mean, it also feels like before we let you go, You have brought out. Yeah, but then I remembered that I wanted, I've again noticed that you brought. Oh, you want more from Ethan Page? A little more. A little more. You noticed again. Well, it feels, I didn't mean to keep anybody waiting. It feels like you've brought out a little bit of a softer side in Rusev. It feels like you and Rusev are kind of getting along in a way that even Rusev didn't intend. Is this a legitimate friendship that we're seeing building or is this manipulation?

53:54Jacob Fatu:Okay, well, this is offensive that you would bring up relationship issues on a public forum like this. Would you like me to ask you about your family? How's things at home? For me, I mean, everything's fine. Okay, you know what? Let me give you my thought process here, okay? Yeah. What's the phrase? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

54:19Sam Roberts:That's how it goes. Yeah.

54:21Jacob Fatu:Okay. Well, everyone in this building is an enemy. So when they're in the room with me, they're my friend. I mean, it's a, it's sound logic, Ethan page, all ego. Thank you so much for the clarification today. Good luck on Saturday night. And we can't wait to speak to you again here on, on, on WWE now. I wish the feeling was mutual and I'm very happy that we are wrapping this up. Okay. Thank you very much.

54:52Sam Roberts:Good luck on Saturday.

54:53Jacob Fatu:You're so very welcome, both of you. And you should let her speak more, Sam. Thank you. Be a gentleman, please. Not stopping her, but I appreciate that very much. Thank you for the advice. Oh, it's coming off. Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Just wanted to let you know. Professional courtesy. Well, thank you. Are we done? Okay. Okay. They're wrapping me up here. I wanted to give you a little more time. I'm a very nice guy, but I'm done. Thank you. So see you later. Okay. Thank you to Ethan Page. I was not attempting to stop you from speaking. I would hope that you.

55:25Sam Roberts:I thought he made some really good points. Okay, good, good, good. But by the way, also every time you asked a question, he gave you a hard time. That was tough. Yeah. But he also was looking out for me. I appreciate that. Dude, did you feel like there were questions that you needed to address that weren't addressed? No, you did. You did cover that. Okay. And I thought you covered them as well. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. he's a tricky one there he is tricky you know and just when you think he's in your good graces he decides to turn it around and go in a different direction you know it might have been easier if he gave us the list of questions like he did for mike it seemed like it was going well when he gave mike the list of questions before the interview that's true uh but i actually have a question for you do you believe in joe hendry of course who doesn't you know i do and now you can not only believe in Joe Hendry you can grab two new authentic Joe Hendry tees at WWE shop and fanatics say his name and pick up your new merch today also you've heard about this guy he's easy to find but he's hard to beat Cody Rhodes has a brand new collection available now at WWE shop and fanatics, you can grab yours now and feel the adrenaline in your soul.

56:42I love Cody, stripping down to basics, the black and white. I like what we're seeing from him. I like what we're seeing from him. I think it's going into Clash in Italy. It's going to be a big, big deal. But speaking of big, big deals, Seth Rollins shows up on Monday Night Raw tonight and says that he's issuing a challenge to a member of the vision, and he wants it to be Braun Breaker. Now, Paul Heyman steps in front of that and points out to Braun Breaker, don't you understand? You now know where Seth Rollins is going to be. You know when he's going to be there. You don't need to take this challenge.

57:21Sam Roberts:Why don't you just call the play on that one? That's right. And he puts it in Austin Theory's court. So we get Seth Rollins versus Austin Theory to end Monday Night Raw. Big, big main event. Austin Theory looked at it as an opportunity. I think it was a pretty big opportunity. Massive. For Austin Theory to main event Monday Night Raw with one of the best in the game right now. But you know, I mean, the thing goes haywire. Seth Rollins wins the match. Don't let any of the hoopla after the match allow you to forget. That's a very important indication because if you just caught the last two minutes of Raw, you wouldn't know.

57:59No. Seth Rollins won that match. Okay. and then Dawkins comes out because Seth Rollins is getting attacked by the Vision, by Austin Theory and Logan Paul. And obviously the Street Profits have their problems that they're going to try to settle at Saturday night's main event. But Dawkins is now outnumbered because Seth was already taken out. Dawkins is now outnumbered two to one. And so Montez Ford comes out and you can read it all over his face. He is not happy to be out here helping Seth Rollins.

58:28Sam Roberts:He's like, dude to Dawkins, dude, I told you. Problems follow this guy. That's right. And he's annoyed even when he's in the ring. And like literally moments after he's saying it, here comes Braun Breaker out there. And what does he do? He spears him. Yeah, he spears Montez in half. And Montez pushed Dawkins out of the way. Right. Trying to save Dawkins. But that's exactly like last week. It was Seth Rollins getting out of the way. Dawkins got speared. This week, it's Dawkins getting out of the way. Montez gets speared. But listen, everything that Montez Ford says about Seth Rollins and problems following him.

59:03He's not wrong. No, he's not. I don't know how he ends up in these positions over and over again, but he's been the one. Look, you could want to be a good person all you want. You can want to make alliances all you want. But like those instincts that Montez has that says from the beginning, I don't care what this guy says. I don't care what this guy does. We know what this leads to. You know, it's one of those like in my life, if I don't want step four to happen, in, I don't do step one or two or three. I stop at step one to avoid step four. I don't wait till step three and I'm in too deep.

59:39Sam Roberts:Don't even get close to it. This is what Montez is trying to set up some healthy boundaries for himself and for Dawkins. And he's the only one that's willing to listen to these boundaries. Seth is going like, no, it's all good now. Well, there's quite the temptation, right? Like Seth Rollins is a WrestleMania main eventer. He's the superstar who never lost the World Heavyweight Championship. He's a good one to have on your side. Exactly. But Tez goes, nope. And I respect that for Montez. A hundred percent. Where he's like, no, no, no. First of all, I have to look at the whole picture. Right. I have enough.

1:00:10Sam Roberts:Don't just read me the credentials. Right. I need to look at the entire picture. What's the context around all of it? I've got enough faith in myself that I can do it with what got me here. And the context is that trouble seems to follow this guy. That's right. He knew Seth Rollins was trouble when Seth walked in. That's what they say. Tez is like, look, is that what they say? Or is that what Taylor Swift says? Somebody said it. I don't remember who it was, but go on. Tez is away from WWE for months. Right. Returned the Raw after Mania. He just wants to get the tag team championship. He told Seth.

1:00:49Sam Roberts:Now he's dragged into all this Seth Rollins business. I don't know. I mean, look, there's a lot of business going on the same way. And I get why people have this opinion about Seth Rollins. but LA Knight sticking his nose into Seth Rollins' business earlier in the night. LA Knight just walking up to Seth Rollins and going like, hey, you know, you're going to need help, and it's not going to be me. And it's almost like, yeah, cool. We didn't even have to have this conversation. And this is right after LA Knight had done a similar thing to Jay and Jimmy Uso, where Jay and Jimmy are like, we have our own problems, dude.

1:01:26We don't need this right now. like I don't know why LA Knight decided in the middle of this he's gonna sit there and like

1:01:35Sam Roberts:rub it in LA Knight's like hey man looks like you need help I'm not gonna do it so in the words of Nick Saban quit asking that's right yeah you wonder you wonder what what LA Knight's motivation is for all of this you know what I mean it can't I don't think it's just to walk up to people and start trouble for no reason. I think there's a grander plan in all of this. I just don't know what it is. I'm not sure either. Yeah, yeah. Because then when Braun Breaker's out there, he goes after Seth Rollins. And once again, Seth can say whatever he wants, whether it is in the segments leading to backlash, whether it was the backlash match itself, whether it was tonight.

1:02:22night something happens when Seth Rollins and Braumbreaker are in the same vicinity Seth Rollins ends up on his back and Braumbreaker leaves on his feet and it's one of those things where it's like if you're Seth Rollins you either need to figure out a different game plan or you need to figure out somebody else to attack because this ain't working because once again we end Monday Night Raw with the Vision walking out on each member's own two feet. Paul Heyman behind them. I mean, on cloud nine. What a night for Paul Heyman.

1:02:55Sam Roberts:He's got to be feeling good. He's going to sleep like a baby tonight. Oh, yeah, he is. And Seth on the ground again. Do you think that Seth has to completely re-strategize? Yes. Or do you think it's just a matter of, no, I'm going to get him alone. And when I get him alone, it's going to be a wrap. Completely re-strategize. Wow. He's not going to get him alone. No, that's, I mean, by design. And it's Seth's design, by the way. Of course. If anybody should know this, it's Seth. But he's letting that, like, lust for revenge, I think, take over everything. I mean, Heyman knew it right away. He was like, look, I know you want Breaker.

1:03:29Yeah.

1:03:30Sam Roberts:Guess what? You're not getting Breaker in the match. Right. But you'll get him later. He'll be there. Man. Man, you know, I hope that speaking of places where Braun Breaker will be, I hope Fanatics Fest is one of the places, you know. The number one sports fan festival is what I'm talking about, Fanatics Fest. It returns to the Javits Center in New York City from July 16th through the 19th, 2026, of course. It's a must-attend event for WWE fans. You'll be able to meet your favorite superstars and enjoy surprises all weekend long. New superstars just added to Fanatics Fest include Obafemi, AJ Styles, and Trick Williams.

1:04:15Whoop that trick. Photo and autographs for these superstars will be available for purchase on Friday, May 29th. Keep May 29th circled on your calendar because additional auto and photo opportunities will be added for all superstars, including superstars that are currently sold out. New openings pop up for those. Fanatics Fest general admission and photo opportunity tickets are on sale now at fanaticsfest.com. Now, before we fully get in to what we can expect on Saturday and Saturday night's main event, we saw an interaction that led us to a Saturday night's main event match that I know, I'm sure, you've been chomping at the bit to get into.

1:04:56Sam Roberts:I thought we'd never get here. Wow Sol Ruka Was talking about her What her experience has been Since getting to Monday Night Raw And having matches with Liv Morgan And having matches with EO Sky And then once again She's interrupted By the one and only Becky Lynch Well Sol was back there Gloating a bit What do you mean gloating? I mean she hasn't won anything And she was backstage talking to Byron As if she has No, you're right. You're right. For a WWE superstar to be feeling positive and high on themselves, that is totally unfounded. After going 0-2? Yeah, two losses. Yeah, you come up to Monday Night Raw with all of these expectations.

1:05:44Right, right.

1:05:44Sam Roberts:Huge spotlight. Right. Coming off of John Cena's last match. Right, right. And she lost at John Cena's last match or won? Well, she won there. Oh. But she wasn't officially a Raw superstar then. So then she comes to Raw and immediately just drops to 0-2. Two losses, yeah. And Becky Lynch, what is she, a three-time Intercontinental Champion? And the greatest female wrestler of all time. Not just me saying it. No, I know, I know. By the way, they published a new list. She wasn't at the top of it. But if you are a three-time Intercontinental Champion, how many times have you lost the title? How many losses would that be total?

1:06:24to get it three times, how many losses would that be?

1:06:28Sam Roberts:Well, I mean. It's just simple math. You're a graduate. You went to a great college. I mean, that would. I saw it on Wikipedia. That would mean you've lost it at least twice. Two losses. Okay, two. You're saying Becky Lynch. But she's had a lot more wins, too. How many wins has soul hats? She's been on the main roster. How many? She's been on the main roster for a few weeks. How many wins? Like two or three weeks. How many wins? None. None so far. but she's got a big match now. But you know what? How about this? How about this? You, I mean, going full boomer last week, talking about kids these days, she hears Becky Lynch and goes, oh, okay, yeah, I'll take care of that.

1:07:06And just leaves instantly, goes right to the ring and immediately calls out Becky Lynch. You have to respect that move.

1:07:16Sam Roberts:I mean, it's one thing like to be so passive aggressive. She had Becky Lynch face-to-face backstage. She could have just handled her business there. Right, who wants to do it in front of an audience? What does she think she is, a WWE superstar on Monday Night Raw? Go on. Anyways. Right. Right. Who wants to do it? I mean, especially like there's a whole arena. They're called a ticket buying public. But she could do it where the trucks are. Why wouldn't she do it there? Good point. This Sol Ruka, she's got something coming for her on Saturday. I'll bet. It was odd too, right? Because not only the soul challenge Becky right away, she said, I'll do it tonight.

1:08:00Becky said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Makes the match official for Saturday night's main event. However, and Becky, I did like this line. She said, she's not only a star maker, she's a star breaker. I did like that. That's a cool line. It's true. Which star says she broken?

1:08:19Sam Roberts:AJ Lee was so traumatized. She had to leave the business. That's why she left the business? That's what Becky said tonight. That is a star breaker then. Becky, though, said she will not defend the Intercontinental title at Saturday Night's Main Event. That's what she said. What has Seoul done to earn an Intercontinental Championship match? Yeah, okay. She got really close against her first two opponents on Raw, so now suddenly you're getting a championship match? Who were her first two opponents? It was Liv Morgan and Io Sky. What did you say before about Io Sky? Because she's the best wrestler on the planet.

1:08:55Sam Roberts:Okay, so you can beat the best wrestler on the planet, then you earn an intercontinental championship opportunity. I think you earn it all if you beat the best wrestler on the planet. But you get really close. Now suddenly we're just handing out championship opportunities. Again, to Becky's point, this generation, you have to work to earn these opportunities. The fact that she's getting in the ring with the greatest female wrestler of all time. Is the opportunity in and of itself. Of course. I see. What if she beats Becky at Saturday night's main event? Well, then maybe we can talk about a championship match.

1:09:23Will you talk about it?

1:09:24Sam Roberts:Maybe. If she beats her. Maybe. If she beats her. You think she will? No. Okay. Absolutely not. No. Well, let's take a look at this Saturday night's main event card. Let's take a look at what we can expect to see this Saturday. Saturday night's main event. It's a big, big card. Of course, we are going to have Becky Lynch versus Sol Ruka one-on-one. And I think that... Big dubs for Bex. I don't know if it's going to be big dubs for Bex. This is Sol Ruka's first opportunity on an event like Saturday Night's Main Event. The last time she was on Saturday Night's Main Event was John Cena's last match.

1:10:05And she beat a member of the original Four Horsewomen. Huh. Now she's back on Saturday Night's Main Event. What was that group that Becky Lynch used to be a part of with the original four?

1:10:21Sam Roberts:Four Horsewomen. Oh, interesting. But didn't she beat Bayley? Becky? No. Oh. Yeah. She defeated Bayley. And we know how Becky feels about Bayley. Come on. The reason that Becky took Bayley out for WrestleMania. Becky feels that. Okay. No, no. Okay, fine. All right. Well, we'll see. Becky's impressed by the fact that Sol Ruka beat Bayley? I would hope she is impressed. I don't think she is. Okay, well, I think she should be impressed, quite frankly. I was impressed. I think that Becky should be impressed. I mean, I was impressed, too, because I respect the Four Horsewoman, and I respect Bayley, but Becky?

1:10:51Sam Roberts:Becky's not impressed. Okay, well, she probably should get impressed, because it might be tough for her. Might be tough. Might be tough for Becky Lynch. We'll see. We'll see if Saul Rook has got the juice, in the words of Minute Maid. We'll see if she can get the job done. Also, Saturday night's main event, Tag Team Championship on the line. We saw a taste of this at the end of Monday Night Raw when the vision was confronted not only by Seth Rollins, but by Montez Ford and Angelo Dawkins, too. The Street Profits go for that tag team championship. This is what they have been looking for from the very beginning.

1:11:33I gotta tell you based on tonight it feels like the vision is running at a level that I don't know if we've seen since maybe right after Seth Rollins got beaten out of the group

1:11:47Sam Roberts:yeah Logan Paul wasn't even in the vision yet no that's neither was Austin Theory yeah but for a long time this version of the vision this is for a long time we said they weren't on the same page and now look look at where they are look at where they ended monday night raw tonight everybody on the same page it could be very difficult for the street profits very difficult for the street profits who also are trying to figure out at this point who their friends are and who their friends aren't uh we've got a business to get involved in that's 100 right yeah the intercontinental championship is on the line at saturday night's main event all ego ethan page goes for the title against penta And, you know, Ethan Page made a lot of good points tonight on this podcast.

1:12:36But, I mean, I will say I felt like I did a pretty good job of making my own points. That as hard as Ethan Page has worked to get to the spot that he's in, Penta's had a very similar journey.

1:12:49Sam Roberts:He has. Penta's one of these guys that was wrestling for years and years in every organization you can possibly imagine. Just about every organization that Ethan Page has been a part of Penta has also been a part of every bit of the motivation that Ethan Page talks about having Penta also has you know so

1:13:11feeling like a rude awakening for Ethan Page

1:13:15Sam Roberts:yeah especially Penta I mean operating on this level since Wrestlemania going into Wrestlemania and yeah getting a taste of gold and now going like no no no no hungry for the rain this is going nowhere nowhere we'll see we'll see it'll be a huge moment for Ethan Page and then of course our women's trios match women's three on three you've got oh yeah of course before we get to the three on three the tag women's tag team championship as well hit me with that women's tag team championship we can go to the women's three on three after Paige and Brie Bella who have been defending these championships like crazy we saw them in action on smackdown we saw them in action tonight getting past the judgment day now they're facing the irresistible forces at saturday night's main event uh page and brie who had did not have much tagging experience before this have been thrown together together yeah of course of course have been thrown really into this lion's done into this like most competitive that the women's tag division has ever been by a mile by a mile and now you've got the irresistible forces lash legend nia jacks who have had a chance they were never pinned and they've had those titles they want those titles back they were identified by those titles for a long time i mean i could see them getting it but there's a there's a lot of tag teams out there right now this is this is this is i'm gonna have my eye on this one me too You know, the athleticism of last legend and Nia Jax and just the things that they can do in the ring.

1:14:54Yeah.

1:14:55Sam Roberts:Combine that with the hunger. But then at the same time, Paige and Brie Bella, I feel like they're it's crazy as it it sounds. To me, it seems like they have something to prove. They do have something to prove because this is a completely different division than the one that either of them had competed in before. It just sounds crazy to be like, oh, Brie Bella's got something to prove when she's a Hall of Famer. And Paige revolutionized the entire industry. But the fact is that once you revolutionize the industry, the industry shifts with what you created. And now it's time to find out if you can hang in the space that you created.

1:15:32And I think that that's what this match and a lot of the matches that Paige and Brie Bella have had are all about. And then, of course, the match I was talking about before, the six women's tag match that was announced on SmackDown. I mean, talking about a legendary team.

1:15:49Sam Roberts:This is so crazy to see Charlotte Flair and Rhea Ripley together. With Alexa Bliss. Nuts. Against Jade Cargill, Meechan, and B-Fab. I mean, you'd like to think that Charlotte, Rhea Ripley, and Alexa Bliss would be unstoppable. but that Charlotte Alexa chemistry is a very, very unique chemistry. And I don't know what happens when you throw another element in there. We know that Mee Chin, Jade Cargill, and B-Fab are a unit. Yes. I don't know if - Remember the drama before Elimination Chamber? Of course. Getting Charlotte and Rhea to be on the same team? Of course. Insane. Look, we are going to unpack it all coming off of Saturday night's main event going into next Monday night.

1:16:32We will be here on WWE Now. on the Raw recap to recap every last bit of it. Brock Lesnar's back. Unbelievable. Thank you guys for joining us. Don't forget to subscribe across all audio platforms, comment, like on YouTube, and we'll see you next week here on the Raw recap.

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