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0:38Oh, welcome in everybody. Welcome in to WWE Now. Welcome to the Clash in Italy preview show. I cannot wait to break down this card that has very quickly become an absolutely loaded five match card. I am Sam Roberts, of course, with me, the one and only Megan Morant. And Megan, we are not breaking these five matches down alone. No, we couldn't. No, we couldn't. We don't have the ability to. These are big matches. Huge. Huge matches. So we needed somebody big. The biggest analyst that we could possibly find. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, of course, Big E. There he is in all of his glory. Welcome to WWE Now, Big E.

1:29And I mean, as you look at this card, as you look at what we've got in front of us for Clash in Italy, do you remember a five match show that from top to bottom was more loaded than this one? Oh, that's a tough one. Look, we got a lot of future Hall of Famers. We have former world champions, future world champions. Ah, this might be the most stacked just with star power alone. I would agree. I would agree. Let's start it. Let's start running through these matches. Let's start talking about what we've got in front of us because I think we've got a lot to talk about with all of them. And you talk about future former world champions.

2:11What about the fact that both the WWE championship and the world heavyweight championship will be on the line at Clash in Italy? And what about the fact that Roman Reigns is walking into Italy, the world heavyweight champion, and he is defending against Jacob Fatu. And this is not just a rematch. This, my friend, is tribal combat. Megan, when you find out that it is tribal combat that Jacob and Roman are squaring off in with the World Heavyweight Championship on the line, who do you start leaning more towards in thinking this is the guy that's walking out with the title?

2:51Sam Roberts:Right now, based on everything that we've seen, Jacob Fatu. Wow. Jacob Fatu has gotten the better of Roman Reigns ever since Backlash, really. And yes, I know that Roman won that match at Backlash, but who are we talking about after Tampa and Backlash? We were talking about the Samoan werewolf, Jacob Fatu, and how he decimated Roman Reigns. And Jacob wasn't done. He took his entire family out on Monday Night Raw a couple weeks ago going through the barricade. And he hasn't backed down since. Yeah, but this is tribal combat. It changes everything. I mean, this is not like when this all started, Jacob shows up and he says, I don't want to be the tribal chief, but I want everything that you have.

3:38And this has evolved to a place where the only way that both parties can get to the spot that they want to get to is that tribal chief title has to be on the line. The only way that Roman can get acknowledged by Jacob Fatu is beating him in tribal combat. I mean, E, I know Roman, picturing Roman losing the World Heavyweight Championship this quickly, that seems far-fetched. But the idea that he would drop that title of Tribal Chief to Jacob Fatu, to me, that feels even more insane. And can you imagine if Jacob Fatu is able to make WWE in his image? if he is the one who is now the tone setter, who is the one who calls the shots, who is the one who is at the very top of the pyramid.

4:29I think the landscape of WWE completely changes if Jacob can beat Roman Reigns. And to your point, look, I understand. I think Jacob is easily the most dangerous threat that Roman has had probably in years. But man, we're talking about Roman Reigns here. It's very difficult for me to imagine him losing the title in Italy. but if anyone can do it, it is this version of Jacob Fatu who has proven that rules don't matter. Referees aren't going to stop him. He is going to go to any and every length to get that position that he craves. What about the cheers and the boos of it all, the good guys and the bad guys?

5:09Traditionally, you just described Jacob Fatu as a guy who doesn't care about the rules, as a guy who referees aren't going to stop him, right? This should be in any scenario where the world heavyweight title is on the line. Jacob Fatou should be the quote unquote bad guy here. And Roman Reigns should be the good guy here. But I watched on Monday Night Raw. Roman Reigns could not take out Jacob Fatou by himself. He needed the Usos to help him. And you know, for me to be pointing it out, it has to be true because I do so reluctantly. But not only did it turn into a three on one scenario, but after Roman was done, before Jacob was the one that actually challenged him to tribal combat.

5:48Roman Reigns looked at Adam Pearce and said, go ahead and fire him. He was ready for Adam Pearce to fire his cousin. Do you think that Roman Reigns walks into this match more of a villain in the story than Jacob is?

6:06Sam Roberts:A couple of weeks ago, I wouldn't have said that Roman Reigns could be a villain, but especially after we saw him tell Adam Pearce to fire Jacob Fatu. to me. Yeah, but you were saying Jacob Fatou should be fired after backlash. That would make you a villain too and a hater. I was never saying he should be fired. You're putting words in my mouth. I was just pointing out that after his actions at backlash that maybe a suspension could be something that was on the table and you, Sam Roberts, called me a narc for even suggesting that Jacob Fatou should be suspended. That was some real front of the bus behavior on your part, Megan Moran.

6:40E, what do you think? Look, I don't believe that Jacob should be suspended. But the question of who the villain is going in. Look, I think we have, we've seen some crowds who are bloodthirsty. And if you're looking for blood, Jacob is going to bring that. If you want some mayhem, he is the one to deliver that. You know, I think that Roman is always going to be adored. He is always going to be, we're going to see a lot of ones up in the air. but when it comes time for that match i think a lot of the crowd is going to be behind jacob fatu because he is going to bring something chaotic you don't you don't know like this i with this match and just understanding that really the stipulation kind of allows things to be wild wide open you you don't know where in the arena this goes you don't know what kind of weapons and instruments this thing can really get out of hand very very quickly yeah but also the fact that there are no rules and that it's tribal combat you know generally speaking look there have been two tribal combat matches uh previously Roman Reigns beat Solo Sokoa one-on-one on the first Monday Night Raw on Netflix but before that he beat Jey Uso and in that match I believe if I remember correctly at that SummerSlam Jimmy uh actually showed up and helped Roman beat Jey that's all to say that the Usos are clearly on the side of Roman Reigns.

8:03And based on the build of this match, any hang-up that Roman had about the Usos helping him is no longer a hang-up that he has because we've watched it happen. I think you could talk about the mayhem, the weaponry, the violence that Jacob Fatu is all too familiar with. But at the same time, when the rules are off, I think Roman is pretty good at using all of his family members to help him. And I feel like that's back on the table more so than it has been all year. What I think really opens things up is we've seen people come to Roman's aid. I'm still wondering if anyone comes to Jacob's aid as well.

8:46We know it's a very large family, whether it's the MFTs, whether it's someone we haven't seen in WWE. You know, there are a lot of other potentials in play. But we've also seen a Jacob Fatu who's been able to dispatch of the Usos fairly quickly. And look, we're talking about arguably the greatest tag team of all time on the Mount Rushmore, at least of tag teams. But I'm not sure if, and this is a bold statement, but I'm not sure if the Usos being involved even matters that much to Jacob. That's, I think that just speaks to his level of intensity, his level of reckless abandon right now. we're seeing a Jacob Fatu who is not willing to relent.

9:26I don't know what it's going to take to put this man down, but bring the Usos, bring the cousins, bring the aunts, bring the uncles, bring everybody because you're going to need it.

9:36Sam Roberts:I just want Solo to be involved because after Roman said Solo couldn't get a cup of coffee delivered to the arena, I was upset by that. I was offended. I thought that was, he went too far. Yeah, it was you. You were watching that on an iPad, like Michael Jordan. You took that personally. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. Why solo kitchen strays right now? Come on. I get that. I get that. I understand that. I mean, listen, I think if there was ever, you're always looking for those shock moments in WWE. And if there was ever a shock moment, I think Jacob Fatu walking out with the Ula Fala and the World Heavyweight Championship would be a shock moment.

10:11I think at the same time, we've also, if we've been watching the product, have been made aware that it is a direct, real, and very potential possibility that we could see this. For me, I can't. I can't see it. And maybe that's because I just can't. The ramifications of this whole thing, this is what I'm stuck on, right? The ramifications of it. I can't see Jacob Fatou leading this bloodline and actually being called the tribal chief at the same time. I can't see him acknowledging Roman Reigns. I mean, I think this whole thing might implode upon itself by the time it actually hits the ring. Yeah, I can't see Jacob ever being someone to actually take the time to acknowledge Roman.

11:00But look, and Roman still has a lot of gas in the tank, but his age starts with a four. At some point, that torch is going to need to be passed. And if there's anyone in the family who can take it by force, even if Roman is not ready to pass it, I think Jacob is the one. If I look at anyone else along, I look at that bloodline. I look at that family. If anyone is set to take what Roman has built and put themselves at the very top of that, I think it's Jacob Batu. And I think it's this version of Jacob as well, bringing back the tongue and death grip. We thought he was done. after Tampa, he said, nope, this doesn't end here.

11:41Look, if anyone can do it, we keep saying, I can't see Roman losing, and I'm with you. But if there's anyone in the world that can do it, it's Jacob Fatu. I would agree with that 100%, actually. When we talk about these matches that have a lot of personal ramifications, I know one that Megan Morant is very invested in, one that we only found out was happening last Saturday, seven days before, or I guess eight days, Clash Natalys on Sunday. But we found out at Saturday night's main event after Becky Lynch, I mean, real quickly into the match, decided to get referee Jessica Carr in between herself and Sol Ruka and kind of sabotaged the match so that she could leave with the title, I would imagine.

12:26The match is made official. After Sol Ruka wins that match by disqualification, We're getting the Intercontinental Championship on the line at Clash in Italy. Sol Ruka versus Becky Lynch. Megan, you've got to admit, this is a big spot for Sol Ruka.

12:44Sam Roberts:Massive spot for Sol Ruka. I still question whether Sol Ruka is actually ready for an Intercontinental title match against the greatest female wrestler of all time. And also, crooked Jessica Carr lived up to her name to a T at Saturday night's main event. Just explain this to me. Sol Ruka hits the soul snatcher on Jessica Carr. Jessica Carr got her soul snatched by Sol Ruka. Yet, somehow, someway, Becky Lynch is one who's disqualified. You know, we've seen it all the time in sports, right? Like Brady. Refs love to see him come. And Brady would get a call here or there. But you earn it, right? When you're the greatest at anything, you earn those calls that you get.

13:30Sam Roberts:I would just like to see Becky Lynch get a call here or there. She is the greatest female wrestler of all time. And when all is said is done, I will remember that she had to do it the hard way. I think you forgot a detail, though. There's a little detail in how those events transpired. You missed the part where Becky takes Jessica, pulls her in front of Soul to make sure that the Soul Snatcher doesn't hit Becky. It hits Jessica Carr. That detail was left out. And thus, the DQ happened. That was the reason. I think for once, there was like a referee who wasn't like a fool in there that actually understood what had happened.

14:08For once? For once, Becky Lynch put her hands on Jessica Carr.

14:12Sam Roberts:The second I saw Jessica Carr during the entrances, I said, oh, we're in trouble. Yeah, I bet you did, because Becky Lynch probably needs special officials. If you're a champion, it doesn't matter who the referee is. You're going to win that match. Listen, I think the fact that Becky Lynch tried to get a referee involved like five minutes into that match. What are you trying to insinuate that Becky's scared? I mean, I didn't even have to say it. That's weird that you got so defensive before I even said it. That is why you're Scam Roberts. You think she's scared of Sol Ruka. Really? I think she was scared of losing the match at Saturday night's main event.

14:45and she did lose the match at Saturday night's main event and officially made Sol Rucca's main roster record 2-1, or 1-2, I suppose.

14:53Sam Roberts:They're just handing out wins over there. Yeah, 1-2. And here's what I think. I think you're looking at a new Intercontinental champion at Clash in Italy. And I think that this is going to be... I mean, Sol Rucca, when you look at the history of the Intercontinental Championship, it was built for athletes like Sol Rucca. who are going to show up and deliver the match. The bell to bell is going to get the audience talking. I remember going back to 1991, being a little kid, sitting there watching SummerSlam, and Bret Hart versus Mr. Perfect blew my little kid mind. To me, it defined what the Intercontinental Championship was in the men's division forever.

15:38And you can go to Bret, you can go to Shawn, you can go to so many different athletes that made that intercontinental championship what it still is today. And I think Sol Ruka is the type of athlete that's going to be able to do that to this title in the women's division.

15:53Sam Roberts:Listen, I agree with everything you're saying about Sol Ruka and her athleticism and what she has been able to do in the ring. She's only been wrestling for four years. There's no question about it. She's it. I just don't know if she can beat the greatest female wrestler of all time and win the intercontinental championship at Clash in Italy. She got a cheap one over Becky. but when it counts, the man always delivers. E, do you think that win was cheap? I would not qualify it as cheap. Becky is the reason that the DQ happened. But as far as what's going to happen at Clash, look, I think Sol clearly so physically gifted.

16:30I love that the crowd is already behind her. They get the phenomenon that is Sol Ruka. But the difference is really Becky has been doing this at a high level. I don't know if you guys got to check out the A &E rivals between Becky and Charlotte. But of course, but I think it gives you a lot of insight into at this level, at the very top, this is what the business is. It is manipulation. It is mind games. It is finding a way not only to be physically superior to your opponent, but to have that mental edge. And I think Becky has been through it. When you go to battle with your best friend and you're able to deal with the ups and downs, and not just your best friend, but someone who is as accomplished as Charlotte is, one of the greatest women to ever do it.

17:17When you have been through that storm and you, and you've done it time and time again, you've taken on newcomers. You've taken on legends. You've taken on, she has, whether Trish, she has every, essentially every woman of note who has stepped foot in a WWE ring that was available since the turn of the century. Becky has essentially been in the ring with and, and has, has, has vanquished. That's the level she's at. And now just knowing that she's willing to pull out any tactic possible, she is willing to use any trick, any ref distraction. That is what separates this version of Becky Lynch from the rest of the field is as far as her IQ, she's as sharp as they come.

18:00Maybe the greatest just from a wrestling IQ standpoint. Her wrestling mind and her ability to be crafty, I think, is what I'm not saying soul can't get it done in Italy. But that's what Soul is going to have to figure out is how am I one step ahead of the most cunning woman in this industry? Let me ask you about that, Ian, and based on not only your experience, but watching the experiences, the people that you've shared locker rooms with. Everything you just said about Becky is 100 percent right. And I watched the Rivals A &E special, and so much of it had to do with Becky from the beginning, not necessarily being a chosen one and having to find those opportunities and fight at all costs for those opportunities and then fight at all costs to maintain and keep those opportunities.

18:51But at a point, does a performer develop a risk of having those edges soften? At a point, do you get comfortable in that position where you are acknowledged as the greatest to ever do it? You are on these lists of greatest of all time. At a point, do you lose sight when a new generation comes up and realizes, oh, that's the person. That now they're the new Becky. That's the person that I have to take off of that throne if I want to make my mark on this sport. Absolutely. It is very easy. What is that Marvin Hagler quote about how difficult it is when you're sleeping in satin sheets to get up and train and to do the work.

19:38So for so many talents, she has been at the top of this industry for almost a decade. She took a break. Not really a break. She was raising a child. But beyond that, for the most part, this woman has we've seen her at the very top of this industry almost with no breaks. But the difference is, though, Becky's different. So a lot of other people in her position would would be coasting. You would see they don't quite have the same spark. You would see them slow down. I don't see that in Becky Lynch. Every time I turn my TV on and I watch Monday Night Raw, I don't see that from Becky Lynch. I don't see someone who is ready to pass the torch down to the next generation.

20:17I don't see someone who is softened. I don't see someone who is just there to collect her paycheck. I see a very fired up Becky. So I think in many other examples, you would see a more diminished version of a superstar who has been on top for a very long time. I'm sorry. I just don't see that with Becky Lynch.

20:34Sam Roberts:Becky Lynch is the furthest thing from complacent right now. I mean, with all that Becky's done, and I know I joke around a lot, but I do believe that we're seeing some of Becky's best matches and Becky's best work right now. I don't realize you were joking. Most of the time people laugh at jokes. The number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, returns to the Javits Center in New York City from July 16th through the 19th, 2026. It is a must attend for WWE fans. You'll be able to meet your favorite superstars and enjoy surprise appearances all weekend long. New superstars just added for Fanatics Fest include Obafemi, AJ Styles, and Trick Williams.

21:18Photo and autographs for these superstars will be available for purchase on Friday, May 29th. Keep May 29th circled on your calendars because additional auto and photo opportunities will be added for all superstars, including superstars that are currently sold out. Fanatics Fest general admission and photo opportunity tickets are on sale now at fanaticsfest.com. And you talk about championships being up for grabs, and you talk about huge rematches. How about this one? Jade Cargill gets a shot at getting her championship back at Clash in Italy. Rhea Ripley defends against Jade Cargill. And Megan, you talked about Becky being different, Becky being non-complacent.

22:03I agree with all of that. When you talk about athletes who are different, who are special, who are just above that line, that break through those ceilings. Rhea Ripley is that person. This is Rhea Ripley's first kind of big match since becoming WWE Women's Champion once again. Is this a different Rhea Ripley than we're used to seeing?

22:36Sam Roberts:I think so, right? Because leading into WrestleMania, I think there was just this urge and this desire from all of the fans to see Rhea Ripley back as a singles competitor. We loved the teaming up with EOSky. We loved what Rhea was able to do in the tag division. But Rhea with a championship. Rhea with the WWE Women's Championship is something that we've been waiting for for a while. And I talked about this heading into WrestleMania. I wanted to see Rhea develop that edge. and I think Jade has brought her to that point where we're going to see that in Italy. I wonder when you talk about developing that edge, I think that Clash in Italy becomes a good showcase to find out if she has developed that edge because I think Jade Cargill has developed that edge.

23:23I think Jade Cargill getting met with some real adversity seems to have brought out this other side. I think Jade Cargill losing the championship, hearing people doubting her whether she's the star that she thinks she is or not it feels like not only in interviews but when you see her in the ring there's this aggressive streak that has developed in Jade Cargill where she's kind of unapologetic about this spot that she's in in professional wrestling and knowing that she too is one of those special few performers E, do you think that losing the championship may have actually sharpened that edge of Jade Cargill.

24:07I do. I think, and not saying that Jade was complacent, but I think when you're, you almost have this aura of invincibility. And it's like, I don't even know if Jade understood she could lose for the longest time. It's like not something that even crossed her mind. But then having Rhea beat her for her world championship, I think now she has that hunger. I see that hunger again. And, you know, for me, I think there's so many interesting factors here is, look, if we're just seeing these two women, I think as far as physicality is concerned, it's pretty much a wash. We're two absolute specimens.

24:45But the real difference is Rhea has been doing this for a very long time. She has faced so many of the best women in the world. She's been at the very top for a long time. So the experience edge definitely goes to Rhea. But what I think is the interesting factor is I would be shocked if we don't see B-Fab, if we don't see Meechan. But what we saw at Saturday night's main event was we saw a well-oiled machine. Those three are clicking and they can go. I was really impressed with what Meechan did. B-Fab looked great. They are really clicking. And now if we're looking at the other side of things, do we see Charlotte?