WWE Now - Liv Morgan unleashes FURY days away from WrestleMania 42 | Raw Recap

27:03Sam Roberts:I mean, there was part of me standing on the floor watching it, thinking we're going to go back there and interview Oba. And I mean, this is the biggest night of his career. He's going to be so happy to be here. And that's not what we got from Oba at all. It was a sense of belonging. I'm just starting. What do you mean, like, biggest night of my career? It's the beginning of it. You're interviewing me after the first lap. I'm about to finish. See this pace I set? Yeah. It's going to get shorter and shorter and shorter as we go. Like, this is what I'm here to do. Did you guys not know? And you go, yeah.

27:42And every day since then, every appearance that he's had, it's been like, yeah, he was right. He was 100 % right. It's remarkable. Big test this weekend, though. Huge. Huge. But I tell you, man, I tell you, you got to win these things. It's all about the little victories, I think, you know? You know, we're going to get back to Raw. But we have to talk about the main events that happen in your own home, you know, all the time. Look, life is basically WrestleMania every single day. A high stakes gauntlet where the responsibilities just keep coming and coming. It feels like you're constantly making tradeoffs between the things that you have to do and the things you actually love.

28:24That's why we're celebrating those moments where you refuse to tap out. It's time for the Minute Maid juice break Where we highlight those everyday wins That deserve a massive pop For instance, this weekend My wife had told me When you leave the garbage It's overflowing You should take the garbage out sooner And there's something in me Like you shouldn't leave it full And there's something in me that goes I don't want to take the garbage out I don't want to take the garbage out But I fought that urge and the next time that the garbage was like that on Sunday, the next day, it was full. And I didn't leave the garbage in the can.

29:06No, I took the bag out. I tied it up and I put it next to the door so that somebody, I don't know who would take it out to the trash can. Somebody's gonna take it out to the trash can. But the point is, I took the garbage out of the can. I even replaced the bag, so. You get a pop for that? I think I deserve one. Yeah. It's the little victories. Well, it was a small victory for me, but I qualified for the Olympic trials marathon. So just celebrating the small stuff, you know? Yeah. Minute Maid and WWE are tag teaming your daily grind, bringing main event energy to life's everyday matches, the Olympic.

29:44Sam Roberts:Trials. Marathon. How long is that? 26.2 miles. Together, we're turning the toughest rounds into moments worth cheering for. Yeah, from the ring to real life. Minute Maid and WWE are here to help you bring the juice when the day tries to tap you out. Never tap out on taste. Bring the juice. Congrats on the marathon, by the way. Thanks so much. You nailed that one. Listen. Good job on the trash. Basura. Basura. Speaking of trash, Liv Morgan called Stephanie Vaquer's mom a piece of trash again today. Again. Liv Morgan was on one today. You see that music video? Yeah, I saw that music video. She is trouble.

30:35She is trouble. We're going to get to Liv Morgan in a moment. But first, first, big special interview today on WWE Now on this road to WrestleMania. One of the biggest matches that we're going to get is Drew McIntyre versus Jacob Fatu. That is the match that will be on ESPN on night one of WrestleMania on ESPN2. The first hour airs and it'll be Drew McIntyre and Jacob Fatu undisputed. I mean, not undisputed, unsanctioned. I mean, the winner will be undisputed because the match is unsanctioned. But when WWE 2K26 held Creator Fest here in WWE HQ, Megan and I could not stop ourselves. We had to take advantage of the fact that Jacob Fatu was here and bring him into the studio and talk about everything that's been going on with him.

31:30I love this conversation. Glad to share it with you here on the Raw Recap. taking in the sights and scenes of the studio jacob fatu come on with it is with us what's

31:43Oba Femi:going on man how are you i'm happy to be up here yeah man it's right back in motion with it out here for the 2k tapping in you know there's a lot of big things sister down there busy i mean looking beautiful as always i mean no but man we all be at the headquarters baby you don't get no better you know something i noticed about you speaking to you doing media is that you have the ability to turn on the charm you know what i mean be very jovial have a great time so but then i watch you on television and you have the ability to completely turn it off and go like no no no i've watched a lot of wrestling but that's somebody that i don't want to say the wrong thing around that's a real yeah that's a real human interacting there is there a is there is Is there a switch?

32:28Is there something that you do?

32:29Oba Femi:Yeah, absolutely there's a switch. It's go time. It's go time. Man, that switch turns on as soon as I walk out my door to go to work. And the switch been on ever since this morning. Flew out, got here this morning. What? At the air? My day woke up at 4.45? Yeah. That switch is on. You know what I mean? So we still here now grinding. You know? So, yeah, man, we live and direct. I'm happy to be up in here, though. I almost walked out, though. I almost walked out. Yeah, I'm glad I didn't. The brother came in there and double-backed on me. So, man, I'm happy we over here. So you got Alpha and Sika, man.

33:06Oba Femi:Of course. Hot Chief, Jey Uso. You know what I mean? Of course. Got the VHSs, man. Yeah, before there was Netflix and all that. Right. Yeah. Sometimes you got to go like this. Mm-hmm. You remember. Hey, sometimes you got to open this thing up and rewind it a little bit. You know what I mean? Put it in like that. Did you ever have to get a piece of scotch tape? to fix it because the VCR ripped the tape? And then you had to put in a piece over here just to record over it. 100%, you put the tape over it, the little piece of tape over the box. This is crazy. I hope y 'all got a lot of these saved, man.

33:38Oba Femi:That's hard, bro. And you got the no mercy one. Of course. Of course we do. You came back, and you look like you might be in the best shape of your life. People were pointing out. You're walking in the ring, no shirt, showing everybody the shape that you're in. What did you do while you were gone that got you into that shape? Man, you know what? First off, shout out to AJ Styles, man. AJ is the one that seen me backstage, and, you know, I cut up my shirts. I threw it on, and AJ was just like, man, what the freak? Like, man, you about to – man, it's a six-pack dude. I mean, ain't no six-pack. A little bit of abs, though.

34:12Just a little bit.

34:13Oba Femi:But, you know, if it wasn't for OG, I mean, man, he's the phenomenal one. So you got to listen, man, when he speaks up. So, man, shout out to AJ Styles, man, for making that happen. But, man, the process, it was different than when I debuted. You know, I missed out on a lot of opportunities. I don't know that, but, you know, things happen. In wrestling, they stay time and it's everything, you know. But at the end of the day, with me missing out on a lot of stuff, I missed out on war chambers. I probably would have missed out. I don't know. I probably would have been cool to do something with Cena.

34:45Oba Femi:Not saying it happened. I never heard it at all. But it was a lot of stuff. But, man, things happened to show what's going on, you know. Yeah, when you see that, right, that's actually a great point. You're talking about war games, and I remember seeing that. Like, it popped up on Unreal. Yeah. Like, you could try to think about it all you want, but when you looked at that whiteboard on the Unreal show. I've seen that. Your name is on the war games lineup. Does that kind of mess with you? I mean, man, it does. It was California, San Diego. Yeah. I mean, that setup was beautiful. I mean, you know, to go back, let's be real, it was downtown, it was a setup.

35:19Oba Femi:You know, that's where the great luchador, Ray Mysterio, Dom, you know, Nia Jax, you know, they all from around that way. But you know what it is, what it is. So instead of being home open and dwelling on stuff, you know, I really had to get right. I feel like this time was the perfect time for me to get right. You know, I ain't going to sugarcoat none. Yeah, I got comfortable. Yeah, I got way too comfortable. That's why when it's time for me, it was time to get out. You know, it was the perfect timing. It was. It was time for me to really regroup. I ain't even been here that long. I'm not going to act like I've been in the game for, I was there, had a five-year run.

35:54No, no, no, no. I got comfortable. That's what it was. Now, when Jacob had to come back, I had to double back on a lot. You know, I had to remember who the Samoa werewolf was. I had to remember who I was. You guys done seen that. Okay, happy to be here, Jacob. Yeah, that's ass. All that's ass. Man, I'm back full motion, and I'm not here. This doesn't mean, oh, new year, new me, new championship, man. Been there, done that. No, we ain't doing that. This is, you're going to get what you get. And I think that's exactly why I'm here, because I gravitate towards people because I'm myself, you know.

36:27So, yeah, when I came back, yeah, it was different. And I feel different. And to keep it so 100, you know, I feel like I'm more dangerous. And see, bro, there's a difference between being cocky and confident. My confidence is up. I'm never cocky because, man, we done knocked and slapped cocky people our whole life. Nah, I'm confident now. So, yeah, when I come back, I'm feeling a little different. I'm feeling a little motion. No. Same thing when Michael Hayes says, when you think you're over, you're not over. I'm not saying I thought that, but I don't ever think that. But it's a whole other full throttle with me.

37:01I feel like I'm here when I came back. Mind you, I ain't been in the WWE for about two years. I've been here. I feel like I'm right here and I'm climbing to the top. And that's fine. It's just giving me more motivation and more fire underneath my ass to push where I need to be, especially after what happened last week. Yeah.

37:17Sam Roberts:Well, when you talk about that motivation, is Jacob Fatu, the Jacob Fatu that returned, the Jacob Fatu that really all of us have been waiting to see, is this Jacob Fatu revenge-driven or championship-driven?

37:31Oba Femi:You know what it is? It's more revenge. I'm not going to lie. The belt never even thought about the title. I'm sorry, the title. You know what I mean? Let's show that more respect, though, because that needs to be more respected than what it is. So, yeah, I wasn't thinking about the title. Now, can you get me wrong from thinking about it after last week? I mean, man, if you think about Elimination Chamber, I mean, man, my name should be coming up. I mean, let's think about it. I mean, if this was the year to see Jacob Fatou in the Elimination Chamber, it sure in the hell would have been at the end of this month, you know.

38:04But then I got my mind changing, you know, like what you said. It wasn't title driven, but now it is. Now it's different, you know. Drew did what Drew was supposed to do. I done did what I was supposed to do. I should have expected Drew to come in. Me knowing where I come from, how I do things, and how things go around, I should have known he was doing. With me coming in, whipping his ass, I should have known. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to sit here moan, complaining bitch about it. No, I'm just going to keep moving forward, keep grinding. And that was a good question, though, sis, because it was going in more revenge.

38:40But then it took another turn after last week. And I think, too, that like, and that's probably what that new energy is from the return, is that I'm sure you heard it, right? All the people saying, Jacob Fatu, future main eventer, from the time that you showed up, like talking about you in the title picture and the fact that you're back on television and immediately, immediately in the WWE championship picture, I think speaks to a lot of that. But you also said, like, you were just talking about where you came from. And I was thinking about this last night. I think it's really interesting that people who have followed you for a long time like you know I have yes there was a narrative that was man Jacob Fatu is great but because of his past he's not gonna get to WWE he can't come in because of his past and I and I was thinking about it and I said man it is amazing that that narrative existed for so long and now that story your past is the story that has put you in the title picture.

39:38You coming from where you came from is what makes you a main event guy in WWE.

39:44Oba Femi:For sure, yeah. I mean, man, listen, everybody get a chance. Oh, I would have changed this. I would have changed that. I wouldn't have changed anything. I truly stand on that because I feel like everything that I've been through, it helped me to get here. I'm not saying I had the worst life out of everybody on the roster. No, I had some trouble. I was young. Man, come on, bro. I'm not saying my parents were bad. I came from a bad family. No, I came from a loving and a great, big, huge family. I just didn't realize I was good at wrestling. But once the passion was different, it's always been around.

40:20But, man, I'm not saying this goes back to being confident and not cocky. But, man, you can't deny this. You can't deny this when you see this. I mean, this ain't even just saying it just to say it. But, man, when I walk through the doors, yeah, I'm going to change the mood in the room. I could change the mood in the room. And you know what? I'm doing it. I'm doing it for myself. I talk about my kids and my wife and all that, my family, but I can't even help them if I'm not helping myself. You know what I'm saying? So nah, so what Jacob got to do? Jacob got to get back on the grind. On another note, y 'all need to stop believing everything on the internet.

40:53Don't believe in it. The internet's fake. Don't believe what people say. So what? Bro, they called me all type of things. They called me this. They called me that. They told me I was. But what's happening? Yeah, we locked in now. Now we on the Sam Roberts show. You know what I mean? Tap in with that. Your ass is trash. How about that? You know what I mean? Yeah. Man, we live and direct with it. But the past, absolutely. The past was just a motivation. The past was just another stepping stone just to get here where we are at now.

41:20Oba Femi:And then, if you guys seen the promo that I did with Cody, you know? I mean, the promo. I'm sorry. The back meeting or whatever. That confrontation. The face-to-face. Yeah. When you, I really meant all that. Yeah. I really meant the choices I made, obviously it got me here. I fixed them. Them choices, you know, obviously got me here sitting in front of Cody. You know, I was hot. I was fired before I almost got hired. Like, oh, that's not Ryman. That's not bars. Like, this is for real. Like, if y 'all want to know in wrestling terms for shoot, yeah, this is for real. All right? This ain't no gimmick.

41:54This ain't me trying to play another coach. No, this ain't none of that. And I guarantee, I know half of them wouldn't even say that to me. But you know what? I ain't that tough guy no more on the streets. You can say what you want, man, brother. The most gangsta thing I could do right now is stay out the way, do my job, beat people up, legally get paid for it. You know what I mean? And take care of my kids and my wife, man. But there was, I mean, bro, you walking to the ring shouting, I went from EBT to WWE. You know. Hey, for real, give it up, man. You know what I mean? Yeah. We going to give it up for that.

42:30And I heard you on The Breakfast Club, too. You said that before you wanted to be a wrestler, you thought you were going to be a rapper. And now you're on TV with these bars that are resonating. I mean, you're doing it all. Man, my brother, man, thanks for recognizing that. Hey, but you know what? When I say that, once again, that has to do with something. I pass. I'm getting goosebumps because I remember seeing that in those offices. I remember meeting up with those workers with my wife. I remember them saying, oh, on the internet, it says that you're a professional wrestler. to where we wouldn't even amount to get, you know, I was only getting food stamps.

43:03I wouldn't even get in the cash part. And that's cool. I wrestled every weekend. But I said that proudly. That wasn't nothing to be ashamed of for me. No. Like, I'm going to let y 'all know. Anything is possible you can do. Trust me, man. And you know what? To come to, on another note, I didn't even know I was doing a walk and talk until five minutes before that. I didn't know what I was going to say. I didn't know what I was going to say. I knew we were in Montreal. I was about to say something, but then I just went blank. So when I said that WWE, EBT, it was just, man, I went from, you know what I mean?

43:37So that's why it was a pause. When you go back and watch it, you know, all this is kind of on, all this is on the fly. You know, this isn't get a script. Okay, say this, say this. No, it's not that. You know, Hunter said that too. You know, Michael Hayes, Hunter, Bobby Roode, Helms, you know, Hurricane. Hey, man, we ain't here to change you. You know, you be you for who you are. So everybody saying when you come to WWE and you get switched and your name and all that, okay, man, that's ass. Nah, no. All right? You come and be you. Something that I always tell my kids. They're going to accept you for who you are, not for who you trying to be.

44:14You know what I mean? So, man, yeah, be yourself at the end of the day. You know what I mean? Motivation. Yeah. From Jacob Fatu. Come on. I mean, Megan's had to deal with it more than anybody. I probably spent three weeks after that Cody confrontation yelling, they don't make them like me anymore. Hell, they ain't never make them like me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. I think Sam cuts that promo to himself every single morning in the bathroom mirror. Like, I'm not kidding. You think I'm joking, but I think every morning before Sam does his radio show, that's what he says to himself. Before he walks in here.

44:44That's right. That's right. The shows are good. Yeah. Come on. They don't make them like this no more. They ain't never met them like this. That's right. That's exactly right. Come on, Woody. I want to ask you a question I've been meaning to ask you forever about your debut coming into WWE. All these rumors. I remember Megan and I were texting back and forth. Megan's like, is he coming this? I don't know. He's coming this week. I don't know. But I swear, and I don't know if we have to cut this out or not, but I swear walking around WrestleMania 40 in Philly, I swear I saw you there. I was there.

45:13I saw you there. And I remember thinking, oh, my God. I didn't say anything to Megan. I was like, oh, my God. I was tucked off. That's Jacob. I was tucked off. wearing like a 49ers hat or something like that. I was on the second day. Yes. That's when I, it was horrible, man. I showed up at camo shorts. It was bad, bro. It was bad, bro. I got to get the dressing together. But yeah, I was there. WrestleMania 40.

45:37Oba Femi:WrestleMania 40, man, pulled up. A lot of people don't know. A lot of my independent career took off in Philadelphia. So to be there at WrestleMania during that time, it was something special. I got there at WrestleMania. Still didn't know. I was signed already. I just got signed, but I didn't know when I was coming. You know, a day after WrestleMania 40, you know, met everybody, said what's up. We were in the Hall of Fame. I was sitting in Gorilla. Nobody could see me. I was hooded up. I was took everybody walking by. And I was tripping out. You know, I seen my brother Solo. I seen my brother Big Jim.

46:11Oba Femi:You know what I mean? Seen Mr. Yeap, man. Seen all of them. And I was in there with Roman, you know, the tribal chief. And, you know, OG, excuse me, OG Paul Heyman. So to go out there to be a part of that. I was off the rip. To see the match, the pre-match, the stuff that Roman goes through, man, it was just mind-blowing. And I just remember when Roman seen me, when I left, he said, Jacob, do whatever you got to do, but when you come back, look different. Like I was already looking different at that time, but two more months, man, came in and got it rolling. The day after WrestleMania 42, seen Tama, Tama Tonga, come over there.

46:51Tomatanga's a beast, a workhorse, a dog. You know what I mean? Seen him.

46:56Oba Femi:Man, okay. Didn't know they was coming. Backlash. Friends. Seen Tonga Loa pop up. You know what I mean? I'm like, man, okay. I had to call brother in them. I'm like, hey, man, I still got a job over there. You know what I mean? I ain't know what was going on. But, man, it all fell together. It all came together. I was supposed to debut at Money in the Bank. Next thing you know, they called, man, a couple days. It's like, hey, we're doing it on SmackDown. Wow. nobody's seen it coming no you remember what i told you well it's funny because there were rumors circulating on the internet that jacob fatu is coming and then it was tama tonga comes tongaloa comes and i i wasn't familiar with your work on the indies and so every single time that a samoan or tongan or tongan would appear i would literally text sam and i say is that jacob fatu and he told me you will know when jacob fatu comes and the second you appeared on my screen I knew because it goes back to what you talked about before.

47:50You have this connection, and I think it has to do with a lot of your authenticity. Yeah, it all changed.

47:56Oba Femi:It's a little different. The process for the debut was awesome, and I forever remember this process. Man, I couldn't even sleep the night before. Stayed up, cleaned up my whole apartment. You know what I mean? Cleaned up everything. Wiped out I was up. She was like, oh, man, here you go. Like, no, baby, I'm just nervous. But instead of flying to Chicago, me and Solo flew to Milwaukee, took that drive, hopped on the bus and just stayed on there. You know what I mean? Man, I just remember being underneath the ring and, man, just couldn't even feel my body. Couldn't feel myself. Shout out to Nick, man.

48:32Oba Femi:Nick underneath the ring. He was underneath the ring with me. I just remember, man, just saying a prayer, just doing a couple pushups what I can to get warm up underneath the ring. And next thing you know, man, next thing you know, that's exactly what I did. I took a breath. Next thing you know, just, man, stand by. Three, two, one, go. Man, bro, I just remember when I came out, I couldn't hear nothing. I couldn't see nobody. I just seen solo, and I just seen the referee, and that was it. And, man, slid out. Everything was history, man. You know what I mean? That was a far jump. And those photos from that day are still like the iconic, like that one where you got that like Samoan like that.

49:13It's different. With the hair swiped over and everything. It's different, man. And shout out to Chicago, though, too. Man, Chicago, Philly. These are other big cities, man, that's been a big part of my upcoming in New York as well. You know, I'm from the West Coast. I'm from Sacramento, California. But our independence out there is trash. You know what I mean? I mean, not now. Shout out to everybody now because that's where I come from. You know what I mean? But otherwise, it's better than that, though.

49:36Oba Femi:But, man, yeah, the debut, June 21st, man. We was locked in, baby. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I remember who, what, I Love You solo was that first thing. Was that just something that occurred to you? That's just something that just came up. Yeah. It just came up right before we walked out. The funny story about that, it was Road Dogg. I seen him in catering the next day. I love you, Solo. I love you. And I'm thinking, man, he messing with me. You know what I mean? But at the same time, I'm sitting there eating, and he walks up just, hey, man. I don't know what it was about that, man.

50:12It just stuck with me. I love you so low. He walks away.

50:15Oba Femi:But you know me just, man, instead of thinking he messing with me, oh, okay. Man, I'm going to stick to it. I just kept saying it and kept saying it. And next thing you know, man, when the crowd started coming, it was pretty good. Yeah. Now you look ahead. And I mean, you talked about being at WrestleMania 40. Yeah. Two years later, going into WrestleMania 42. You're crazy. thing about this, it's on my Twitter somewhere. WrestleMania 39 in LA? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe so, yeah. 39 in LA, yes. When I seen Solo walk out, man, bro, y 'all understand, bro, that put, like, man, that brought tears of joy to us, you know what I mean?

50:53We were so happy to see my brother walk out. He got kicked out, but came back for the finish when he spiked Cody ass, you know what I mean? But I put WM42 and I didn't even have no talks though with the company. I didn't know if I was going to be here. I didn't know. I was just on Twitter looking for it the other day. You know what I mean? But it got too long. I just gave up. You know what I mean? But I put capital W, capital M, 42. And now, you know what I mean? And I was still signed. I was never. I was still signed with the other company. It was just me. But man, my brother Solo, they motivated me.

51:31The Usos roaming. But seeing Solo walk out

51:33Oba Femi:was like, man, come on with it. You know what's the best part of that? It didn't click in until a year and change later and even that before you really are on your own the guy, you're exactly lined up. I think that's just an important thing for people to realize like everybody wants to get in in three months. It ain't gonna happen overnight. It took me on independent 12 years so everybody complaining and bitching and complaining about this and that or when can I make it? Man, stop. Stop. Okay? All right? When I hear people complain about the plane being delayed, man, come on. All right? Remember when your ass didn't have a job here.

52:14That's right. All right? Remember we was in no video games. Remember nobody came to see you. You know, people might come see the wrestlers more on the WWE than they did on the independents. You know what I mean? And nothing against the workers who has not been on the independents. Okay, that's okay. That's good. I don't want nobody to have to go through it if they don't have to. See, I had to go through it. So I was grateful for the grind. If you didn't have to go through the independence, okay, that's cool. That's another thing. But, man, bro, just keep pushing. Keep pushing. Keep going. People will say a lot nowadays, man.

52:45You know what I mean? You just got to kill them with a smile, man, and keep moving. You know what I mean? That's it. Kill them with a smile. They want to see us mad. They want to see us sad. They want to see us down. That's it. Man, just kill them with a smile and be happy to be on the Stan Roberts show right now. You know what I mean? That's it. That's it. That's it. Well, listen, Jacob, you can kill them with a smile. Yeah. I mean, you can kill him with a lot more, but you choose to kill him. Let's go. Come on, man. And we appreciate you being so generous with your time, hanging out with us.

53:10Our peoples. You're the man. You're the man. You did your thing, too, out there. I've seen sis, man. She was busy. I mean, I was walking by at the time to say hello real quick. That's awesome. And then she even told her, oh, no, man, we finished. I was like, okay, let's go. Let's go. So, man, shout out to, what was the gentleman who came and got me? I think that was Charles. Charles. Charles. If you're back there, thank you, Charles. I love that. Shout out to Charles. Nick Under the Ring. Everybody's appreciated. Come on, Woody. Let's give it up, man. Let's give it up for everybody. Thank you, though, brother.

53:36Appreciate it having me, though, brother. Appreciate it, dude. It's so...

53:40Sam Roberts:Thank you to Jacob Fatu for sitting down and doing that interview with us. You know, earlier in the day, he had this amazing purple sweatshirt on that was just fantastic. You always got to be looking fresh. Jacob Fatu does. And I'm going to be looking fresh this weekend at WrestleMania with my wear by Aaron Andrews and Darius Rucker collection. Step up your WWE style with new arrivals from wear by Aaron Andrews and the Darius Rucker collection where fashion meets fandom. Don't miss your chance to rep your favorite superstars with elevated looks. And Stephanie McMahon is celebrating the legacy of her Hall of Fame career and Signature Series title belts made to honor Steph's impact both in and out of the ring.

54:28This belt features a distinct commemorative design and premium materials. You can get yours now at WWE Shop and Fanatics. And don't forget to check out her podcast, What's Your Story? I believe they had Logan Paul on last week. Love that. Great episode. And Triple H and Stephanie McMahon this week switching roles. That's right. Stephanie goes into the Hall of Fame this week. That's right. Big week for Stephanie McMahon. But also Triple H is interviewing Steph. I love that. On the podcast. I love that. How great is that? I mean, listen, I lived through the McMahon-Helmsley regime, okay? To see that explode onto a podcast that's part of the great network that we're privileged enough to be a part of, that's an exciting, exciting thing.

55:10You know what else was exciting? What's that? That they don't make him like me anymore. Hell, they never made him like me! We got to do it together. I didn't know where you were going with this Yeah we got to do it together We were just hyped for that Oh it made me feel so good I don't have for you that finally now this interview is Everybody can see Yeah we did it a while ago Yeah Jacob and I think we're like that Jacob loves you too Yeah but you guys have a very special bond We do have a special bond But he kept calling me the sister so I think I'm cool with that That's cool But you guys are boys You know what he calls me loose that's true i think you are part part use i mean you did say it one one will have follow for per family so that's true and yours you're wearing the will have follow i'm definitely the roberts uh tribal chief but speaking of the of of chiefs and people who wear the item that signifies that they are in charge we're talking about the women's world championship and the The fact that Stephanie Vaquer comes out to talk to old poor Kathy Callow, who found herself in the line of fire.

56:22Thankfully, we got that medical update. She's all right. She's okay. I think. I was worried about WrestleMania. You know? With Kathy? Yeah. Who's going to do the interviews? Who's going to do the reporting? That's a good point. That's a good point. We need to get them scoops. She's a big journalist. But I will tell you, there she is. Oh, my gosh. Poor Kathy. Look at her. Look at Danilo's cheap ass. That's right. Danilo. Well, he's very thrifty, is Danilo. However, it was good that he was there to help Kathy. I heard he was going through her pocketbook when Kathy was in. He was trying to get a couple bucks on the side.

56:52Yeah, that's right.

56:56But Liv Morgan just rampaging. And I would have thought she literally dropped a single today. Yeah. Her music video came out today. I thought it'd be a happy day. I mean, did you see the picture of her on social media last week with that massive goose egg? I've seen every picture of her. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. I mean, Liv Morgan was a whole nother level of crazy tonight. In, like the swelling, like under her eyes and everything. Yes. Look at that. Look at that. That's what's inside. That's Liv Morgan. That's what's waiting for you. Wearing a t-shirt that says, I heart trouble. That's right.

57:34Sam Roberts:This has gone to a place where Liv Morgan feels totally in control because she thrives in this chaos. She loves this chaos. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, Liv coming out, and I mean not taking no for an answer, begging Stephanie Vaquer, who Stephanie Vaquer has traveled the world, beating people up to become a decorated professional wrestler. And Liv Morgan is unimpressed. I don't know. Putting that welt on Liv Morgan's head did something to Liv Morgan where now it's on. It is on. There was not one question asked in that interview. before Liv Morgan came out, made her presence known. And I mean, I don't know.

58:19I think Stephanie Vaquer was almost kind of reassessing everything that was going on in terms of her rivalry with Liv Morgan because this is a completely different Liv. This was not a Liv having a fun time in the Judgment Day clubhouse. This was not about Liv and Dom. This is not about anything except Liv Morgan now, not only wanting to take Stephanie Vaquer's championship, but wanting to tear her limb from limb.

58:45Sam Roberts:If you run into Liv Morgan, be careful because if you're in her way, you are in trouble. Trouble's the word, isn't it? 100 % in trouble. I think you brought this up when we interviewed Liv pretty recently, how something happens to Liv Morgan when she returns from injury. We remember the Liv Morgan revenge tour. We remember Liv Morgan coming back this time when she did the John Cena move. Yes, yes. We remember that. And she just has this whole different vibe to her. And the fact that Stephanie Vaquer last week, just a week before WrestleMania, puts Liv Morgan in a situation where she has this massive goose egg on her head.

59:28Potentially, right? What's the internet saying? Is she going to make it to WrestleMania?

59:32Sam Roberts:Is she going to make it? And Liv Morgan, like something just clicks. It awoken within her. Yep. And she's on that level of crazy. I think it's a great point you just made. I think you're on to something there. I think that something happens where, look, Liv Morgan and how much she has done to get into the position that she's in in the WWE right now has been very well documented. Her position as one of the top women on the roster was not something that was handed to her. It was not something that she was kind of put in place for. It happened because she made it happen. And there have been so many times where she has not been prioritized, where she has had to kind of struggle to find her place on the roster, that I think there may be something to that.

1:00:24I think that there may be something in her head where the minute she realizes that somebody is trying to stop her, when she has momentum, and trust me, Liv Morgan has momentum. A lot. When she has momentum and she even gets a sniff that somebody is trying to stop that momentum, I think she snaps. It's one of those like just let me prosper. Let me prosper because if you don't, then you are getting in my way and I can't have it and I won't have it. And that's when it's like. And that's when she takes poor Kathy Kelly out. It's when she was a werewolf. You know what I mean? Like something, you're right, something happens It's almost like I can't be responsible for what happens next No, no And it'd be one thing if this was going down like two weeks ago When you're six days out, five days out You try to take me out where I have a big goose egg on my head?

1:01:24Let's go, let's go right now Liv Morgan was on a different level tonight And I enjoyed it Speaking of being on a different level, Topps Chrome is back Topps Chrome on a very different level. Topps Chrome WWE, it's back for 2026. I was seeing some of the rips that people were getting. Saul Ruka's debut patch is in this set? I mean, it's crazy. It's bringing the signature chrome shine to the larger-than-life personas that we see in the ring every week. This isn't just a card set. It's a dynamic checklist that covers everyone from today's heavy hitters and emerging talent to the icons who defined the business.

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1:03:35We did. We did. Seth Rollins. Well, Gunther comes out. Seth Rollins sneaks attacks him this time the way Gunther did to Seth last week. But then we get words from the two of them. Seth is convinced that this is an inside job. Seth is convinced that Paul Heyman has something to do with this. And Gunther decides to get in the ring and tell him straight up, it's not because Paul Heyman put me up to this. It has to do with the fact that Paul Heyman put you in the position that he put you in and turned you into, as Gunther put it, a useful idiot. I love that phrase, by the way, just in general. Useful idiot?

1:04:13He's a useful idiot. Yeah, yeah. I think that's one of the great things. It's kind of a backhanded compliment, right? Like you're useful. Which is a good thing. Right. But you're also an idiot. Right. Well, if I was an idiot, why'd you have me around? You're a useful idiot. You know what? That's actually a backhanded insult. It's double bad. But if you're an idiot, you'd be like, oh, at least I'm useful. it's more like it's more like you could say it to somebody or if you're an optimist right i'm an optimist so if you called me a useful idiot well it's better than yeah because i mean i heard that other person's just an idiot no that's a good point that's a good point um he said uh uh uh that his problem with seth is that and it goes back to being in the vision that seth is the center point of the vision that seth it's all agreed upon is the guy that the industry is about going forward because Seth Rollins is the best wrestler.

1:05:07And Gunther says, I can wrestle circles around you. And then when Gunther said to Seth, you're pissing me off, I went, uh-oh. Yeah, yeah. And now in this - Because we've seen what Gunther has done to people who haven't pissed him off yet. Right, just to set an example. Just to do. But now we're watching Gunther drive that forehead into Seth Rollins'. And Seth, it's almost like, whoa, where did this come from? I think this is going to be An incredibly physical match at Wrestlemania I think The fact that Gunther has called this one Personal Because Gunther has been saying this entire time It's business

1:05:41Sam Roberts:Nothing really gets personal I'm going to go retire John Cena It's business Hey AJ Styles why would I wrestle You already beat you once Put your career on the line I'll retire you It's business Bill Goldberg Business Seth personal Personal I have to do this because I'm the best wrestler. And you walking around here acting like you're even in the conversation, it's insulting to me. But I did like to see that Seth Rollins got the upper hand tonight. He did tonight. Tonight. I think Seth needed that going into WrestleMania. I think so too. I mean, he was put to sleep by Gunter just a couple weeks ago.

1:06:21Yeah, and I would say Gunter got the upper hand last week as well. So no, I think so too. The idea that, I mean, Seth almost stomped Gunther on the steel stairs before Gunther was able to escape and get over the barricade and get the hell out of there. But ultimately, this is going to be a tough one. This is going to be a tough one because it's two guys that you would have assumed this year are getting WrestleMania victories and only one of them can get it. Which is just crazy. Absolutely crazy. WrestleMania is going to be huge this weekend. Megan and I will be back on Friday for a WrestleMania preview podcast going over all of the matches and giving our predictions and stuff.

1:07:04Saturday is a biggie. Of course, we were just talking about Rollins versus Gunther. Jacob Fatou was on the show earlier talking about where he's at and everything. He's going to be on ESPN2. Got to see iShowSpeed. Yeah. With a single training session before WrestleMania. He's a talented guy, you know? I hope he's really talented. And of course, that Cody Rhodes-Randy Orton match, and you see Pat McAfee's mug over Randy Orton's shoulder. Just really, I mean, just a thorn in the side of wrestling fans everywhere. But I'm telling you, Megan, it is fueling me. This main event for WrestleMania Sunday.

1:07:46And I think both shows are going to be tremendous. but I think CM Punk versus Roman Reigns is gonna be one for the ages. I think CM Punk and Roman Reigns understand the assignment and they are gonna close out this coming weekend with an absolutely epic WrestleMania main event. Of course, you're gonna have Obafemi versus Brock Lesnar starting the show. And then I do think, you know, We heard Dominic talking to Adam Pearce earlier. It is a little unfair.

1:08:22Sam Roberts:What do you mean unfair? Finn Balor did say the demon was dead. So the idea that Adam Pearce would say that you deserve to have to face the demon. It's really interesting that you would bring up fairness when it comes to a guy like Dominic Mysterio, who's won a lot of his matches, not exactly the fair way. What do you mean? He hasn't always played by the rules. Then why didn't the referee disqualify him? Because it's Dom. I mean, he has a way of putting things in his boot, you know, using the hammer when the referee isn't looking. I believe Jesse the Body Ventura once said, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

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1:09:36I love it. You will hear the voice of WWE himself, Michael Cole. this is Wrestlemania Road to Gold and it lives only at Fanatics Casino. That's cool for Michael Cole I'm pumped for him I thought she was going to go in a different you know what I did see maybe next year you know keep working you never know I just said the voice of WWE Digital you know what I did you know what I did see then it would be you anyway I did see I came to a realization tonight watching Raw. It's made me extremely excited for WrestleMania. Do you have one match that you're most excited about for WrestleMania? Becky Lynch getting back her Intercontinental title.

1:10:20That's it. That's far from a guarantee. But I realized that there's a moment that I think we're really getting at WrestleMania. Dan Housen? Yes! I think Dan Housen and John Cena are going to have an interaction. Oh, I hope so. I think Dan Housen's meeting John Cena. Are we getting a blimp? Are we getting a... I'm going to go... you know what hall of fame blimp truck john cena that's my prediction hall of fame blimp truck john cena yes yes i think we're gonna get all of it but i really do after that interaction i was like oh my god john cena and dan has they're gonna have an interaction dan hasn't has been on john cena's instagram john cena watches the product he knows what's going on of course he does who doesn't know what's going on with dan house everybody knows everybody else has to be careful because the curse kit wilson kit wilson felt it firsthand they tried on commentary to say that that was a pyro malfunction i don't think so that was a curse i mean look at all the people who've been cursed things aren't going so well for them poorly maybe that's what happened to dom well he did get cursed maybe it's not adam maybe i shouldn't have blamed adam pierce for that maybe it's curse related do you think the curse woke up the demon a lot of people aren't talking about that.

1:11:33I bet they will now. Fingers on the pulse. We cannot wait. WrestleMania is this weekend. Megan and I will be all over it from the stadium on Saturday and on Sunday. We'll be at WWE World. It's going to be such a fun weekend and we will be there with you all the way. Make sure you subscribe, comment, and like on the YouTube. And we'll see you at Rape Mania, baby. Yeah, let's make the place where we had it. Vegas, baby.