Matching Tattoos, Conspiracy Theories and Kevin Hart Roast

0:00Hello. Hello. Welcome to the Wolf and Owl. Hello, friends. Great to be here. Good to be here, my guy. Really good to be here. Nice T-shirt. Thank you very much. I've not worn just a T-shirt on this before. No, you haven't. I get kind of nervous about... Why do you get nervous? I don't know. I like layers. You look nice. I like layers. You don't need to have a layer. I do. Arms look good, boy. Forearms look hench. Thanks.

0:25Yeah, what do you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws?

0:37Now, this arm, if you look here, looks like a bit scaly. Yeah. That's because I've got second skin on. Yeah. Because I've got some ink done. New ink, you're looking good. Paul Boxall at Brothers in Arts. Shout out Paul Boxall. But. The Boxmeister. We've got to. And Carl, by the way. And Carl, yeah. Big up Carl. Both excellent. Best in the game. Incredible, I love it, yeah. let's should we do our reveal yeah I've got mine's slightly more sort of Bert Krejner than yours look at that baby I don't know look at this we have got matching wolf and owl tattoos it's got like a titty up what yeah look at good boob out I sort of as soon as I realised we'd had to reveal that's right baby wolf and owl tattoos yeah you can get it out of the paul boxall's doing them for anybody that wants them yeah it's uh how would you describe it as a caricature yeah of tom as a wolf yeah and it's me as an owl sort of sat on your back what i will say that he's done an incredible job uh is at the first illustration he'd done the sort of like sneery look i had to have a word with paul because he'd done sort of a sneery look and it looked like i'd had a stroke so he sent it to me he said what do you think of this i said it is good is it possible you sent it to me and I went, I love it.

1:57And you were like, don't I look like a stroke? And then I, then I said to Paul, can we de-stroke it a little bit? Um, and the first for any people who get, get them all. Get in touch with brothers and arts and say, I want a Wolf and Al Tattoo. Yep. You can get it done. By the way, that, that, that booking system goes up quick, boy. Quick. He's booked up until May of next year. And Carl's similar. Yeah. Good guys, by the way. Really good guys. Really good. I found, by the way, cool alpha dogs. So lovely as well. at first when i first walked in i was like wow these guys are proper proper guys and i was a little bit not like nervous yeah you know but there was two of the loveliest men i've ever met they're very kind to the two betas that were getting inked weren't they yeah yeah yeah yeah uh do you have you felt i felt like my tattoo arrangement up against theirs i was like wow these guys really know what they're doing tattoo wise do you have any regrets no and we've permanently marked ourselves with the podcast now yeah it's what we needed to do yeah it's show everyone yeah i think i'm really considering getting the romesh face one on me somewhere i don't think you should do that why i just don't think you should do that i know you've already got romesh's face yeah i have actually got your face on me so you've got my face on you yeah maybe i'll get john somewhere on me just written again i would say that's a bigger mistake than getting me on you just like a little john there j-o-n no h yeah okay why i don't know all right okay slightly enough john anyway we're very happy about it aren't we very happy it was an incredible moment yeah it was like it was like you know like sort of in you know like in sitcoms or soaps when someone like gives each other like a kidney or something it's like a brother it's like brothers yeah we're bonded permanently yeah yeah yeah wow it actually feels like for the first time in my life i've got a brother it's it's it's a shame in a way what are you laughing at because i know what you're gonna say because i i don't know how long i'm gonna be doing this for well you're quitting at 50 right yeah i'm 48 yeah yeah you've got two years yeah so you've got two years left of the podcast yeah less than two years now from 10 40 a few months ago yeah yeah yeah so we've got two years gets to 50 and then you're walking away this episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration block or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks gemini and chrome is here for it ready to make anything online make Make sense?

4:22There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required compatibility and availability varies 18+. Legally, we can't say drinking Storm makes you smarter and more focused. But with zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine and immunity support, you're smarter and more focused for drinking Storm. Storm, good energy in, good energy out. Energy for life. I'm walking away from it all. No, I'm not really walking away from it. But yeah, there'll be a big step back at 50. you said this at 45 i'm pretty sure if we go back yeah yeah i said yeah so i've been planning i've been planning this you stepped it up yeah no certainly not no but i would say that most people wouldn't go god romesh doesn't seem to be around as much no but what i'm saying is i'm doing i'm doing the things i want to do because i'm i'm building up to the big step back no you're not why don't you believe me i know you're not i just know you're not i'm just going to do a couple of bits here and there but people are going to go what happened to romesh and they're like you will be like jordan you know michael jordan finished like any step back from the balls yeah then he tried to play baseball for a bit yeah well there's some there's sort of conspiracy talks about that what do you mean well some people say that he had to because it was i know this is a conspiracy theory i don't believe it or maybe i do but i'm not gonna get to that there was a whole thing about gambling and he he was he basically he was the biggest name in nba so he had they had to he had to sort of step away from it but they made the baseball thing i think that was just a conspiracy thing i read i don't understand how that works because basically he couldn't play basketball because they were saying that there was some gambling betting right stuff i know i don't know if you think that's an explanation but it isn't yeah but i don't want to get too involved in getting okay but you said it's a conspiracy theory so you don't believe it yeah i don't believe it okay so here's what the theory is okay right and i don't believe it because i think michael jordan jordan's a saint okay right is that he there was some sort of match rig in basketball sort of and he was involved and yeah he might so you think michael jordan was no i don't think that this is this is you know it's a court of law i'm literally okay shaking like a shitting dog okay i don't want to get on the wrong side of michael jordan sure i don't think he'll listen to this podcast but no if he if he is paying golf with someone who does listen to it and they go hey mike you heard these two little pricks over the these better males over in the uk talking about your matricing uh yeah i heard one of them was talking about the other ones are dark by the do you think michael jordan says the word dork that's not michael jordan oh that's his mate yeah bobby bobby quinn bobby quinn okay fine um so so michael jordan was ringing matches that is and that's what the conspiracy is okay and that's why he went to baseball and then he came back right okay um what i mean about that what i was getting at is you he couldn't step away he is the game yeah but i'm not the game you are the game i'm i do you know what i had a really interesting chat about you while you're away someone was saying that you've got like almost this godfather father like feel like from some young acts we're sort of saying how brilliant you are and how encouraging and how helpful and nice you are old no no yeah but that's a nice thing well look enjoy it while you can because you've only got two years left of it don't yeah actually listen to it this is it this is it when's your birthday again March March right Lisa this is it 50 girl 50 in March I'm sitting back I'm taking a literally by June it's like Lisa I'm going to go go down AVC and run a couple of bits about retirement.

7:45No, I might do gigs here and there, but it's a big step back. You can't, Sean. I'm going to do, yeah, the big step back. I actually might call my tour the big step back. So, yeah, what, your stepping back tour, that will be an arena tour, that will be a step back. Yeah, but that'll be like, that'll be. I'll tell you what, yeah, I've seen his stepping back. He's got his new sitcom, Stepping Back, where he plays for a retired comedian, the reality show. By the way, that's a good idea because you've got four performers in your house. Yeah, but it'll be like... It'll be like the new Kardashians. It'll be a mini tour and the last date will be on my 50th birthday.

8:19Okay. And then I'll go, it's been fun, though. Oh, fuck off. I actually feel sick. It's been fun, guys. It's been fun. Yeah, peace. Thanks for the memories. And then what? Like Green Day, time of your life, please. Yeah. And never been a boy and a boy looking at the road. Yeah. And they're not... And then I come back out like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like literally people just sobbing like that. You know who you might end up like? Ozzy Osbourne. What does that mean? Well, he thought he was going to sit. That's what his plan was. Yeah. And obviously then everyone was like, the kids were getting older.

8:55They wanted to move into, so they started making the Osbournes. Right? And a bit like. We're not going to make anything like that. Mate. So you're telling me now, Theo, very cool guy. He'd be brilliant in a reality show. Alex has got some, he's got some vibes. Do you know what I mean? He'd be great TV, right? And then you've got Charlie who's fastly becoming a West End superstar, right? You've got three kids in the game, right? Lisa, we already know, has been in one of your other shows. She was great on camera. He's saying they all come together and go, Ron, what if we do like a reality show? Hulk Hogan, if you watch Hulk Hogan, that's what happened to Hulk Hogan.

9:28Hogan knows, that's how that came about. Okay. I'm stepping out. And it could start with you like that, just as I thought I was out. they dragged me back in it's like that could be the vibe you know what you and John John's over there chuckling right you two are going to be so fucking sorry when it happens no what and then I'm going to block both your numbers oh shit so you're not going to have any friends either you're never by the way you two are not my only friends no no you've got other friends of course you have but what you're just going to literally walk away by the way I just don't see it happening if it happens I will I will say, do you know what?

10:07Mark me wrong. I might still do this podcast. We'll do this podcast, and you're still going to do a massive tour. And I'll still do my other podcast. Yeah, and you'll still do your other podcast, which is an amazing podcast. I'll probably still do the radio show. You do the radio show. Probably I'd imagine still do the odd series a week, you think. Yeah, I think that's it. Rob and Ron would be ashamed to let that go, because I enjoy spending time with Rob. And then, of course, all my other endeavours. By the way, me and you at the moment, I've literally spent while you're away I've spent some time getting something I know I know but that's going to happen before I'm 50 isn't it well hopefully yeah but it's a runner it's not something I'm going on I do I've solemnly believed that there's a movie part from Romare Schwang and Nathan that literally blows the world away I see it in the stars and I'm I'm telling you now that now you will get a role in the next two years which puts your name on the map as a bona fide Hollywood star and I'm saying it I'm saying it no that is I'm not that isn't bullshit or blowing smoke I'm telling you now and if that doesn't happen I will I'll walk away myself you'll walk away if I don't sorry okay can we clip this up if I don't get I won't walk away because I'm not financially stable I can't put my wife and daughter in that that situation I couldn't financially look I don't I do believe that will happen well it's very sweet of you to say I think that is already happening for you but anyway enjoy it while you can because in Less than two years.

11:34Viewers, this is Tom Davis, aka The Wolf. Do you believe in two years Romesh will be hanging up his spurs? Or do you think, like I do, this cowboy's got a couple of war rodeos left in his gut? No, I'm not going to completely... It's a step back. It's not a step away. It's like a rolling contraction. I don't see it. Yeah. Okay. So are you telling me now? I mean, the other thing is the industry might decide that for me. And then suddenly, you know... Yeah, I think... You know what I think it is? What? I think it's psychologically more that for you. You're making your peace. It's like when you think someone's going to dump you.

12:06I don't even know if I'm that into her. Knowing that the shit's, you know, that's what you're, I don't think the industry does think that, but I think that's what you're doing. You're going fine with it, because I said I was going to step away after two years anyway, didn't I, girl? But that's what you're making peace with it. But don't make peace with it. You're a juggernaut. Anyway, you heard it here first. If I am not a major Hollywood star within the next two years, Tom Davis will walk away from the industry. financially I can't do that I can't afford to I'm not in a place where I can go I'm just going to fucking take a step back well that's not listen it's not our fault that you've fucking indebted yourself up to the eyeballs because you bought a house on the most affluent street in the country you bought that fucking castle and not notoriously bad and no wonder you don't want to do traitors you're already fucking living one and spend every day wearing I'm going to be voting out of it you might as well mate fucking That is good shit.

13:02Some of us are just warming up into this game. You should invite 20 of your mates around and just do it at your house. What are you going to do for your 50th birthday, by the way? Nothing. What? We could have a joint one. Oh, by the way, the club night has got, while you've been away, the club night has got a lot of heat. Okay, I want to talk about the club night. Because it has to happen. There's like Martin Too Smooth very much getting involved. He's into it. Rob Percy. Rob Percy's into it. Rob Percy, by the way. That guy is like a hound. Haven't we also had messages from various... So this is going over...

13:34Some brands? Some brands have got in touch and said they're willing to support it. Beautiful. So we are doing it. The question is when? Autumn. Autumn? Yeah. Okay. We're going to do it in the autumn. It's going to be small initially. I think we just do a dry run of it. Not dry run. It might be dry with the amount of fucking WKD in that venue. Or other similar brands. Well, whatever. You know what I mean? I'll give an example. Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah. So it's going to be, what are we going to call it? I think it's a Wolf and Al club night. Yeah, but we need to get across the idea that. Yeah. So what are we saying?

14:08Is it over 30s? Yeah. Over 30s. Even over 30s. Yeah, over 30s. We did over 30s. Over 30s. So how is it going to, how are we going to lay this out? I think, first of all, it's daytime. It has to be daytime. So I think three till 10. Yep. Four till 10, something like that. Yeah. Finishes at 10, though. Finishes at 10. And then all of the sort of stuff you get at the old, you know, that you'd get at the like Blue Orchid. Got guys at the guy in the guy's toilet that go with the perfumes and aftershave. Fresh nut. Lollipops. Yeah. Lollipops, all that. All the drinks that you'd expect. Yeah. Everyone's got to dress up as well.

14:43Yeah. Everyone's got to dress. Shoes. From that era. No trainers. Yeah. No trainers. Yeah. No sports tops. Shirts. Shirt. Jeans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any other bands or musicians who want to come along? Yeah. PA from... Live PA. PA from Mbeat. Mate, this is going to be, I think... Ace of Base. Yeah. And DJing-wise, what, we're going to have Percy, we're going to have Too Smooth. Yeah. I mean, Too Smooth will have to step out of his normal comfort zone, but he'll play anything for anyone. Yeah. Percy, by the way, this is made for Rob Percy. Oh, mate. Rob Percy. He will absolutely eat this up. Both of them will.

15:20Martin and Rob are going to absolutely... And what, me and you are just like hosts of the most. We just walk around, schmoozing. actually you could be the freshen up guy in the men's toys I'd do that I always used to look at those guys and think what I would say from my experience of organising these sort of nights what I don't want you to do is just wander around like a fucking Donny it's not going to be a fun night for you or for anyone else around you you know what you should dress like I watched American Gangster Denzel Washington again great film and that moment where he comes out in a fur coat we should get you a fur coat what's that got to do with the theme of the night Because he goes to a party and he's got a fur coat on.

15:57I know, but he's not on the Blue Orchid, is he? Do you really like it?

16:06What are you going to wear, by the way? I don't know. We've got to have some garage there. It's all right. Yeah. A bit of garage, a bit of house. Then we've got power ballads. Yeah. Like the old days of Blue Orchid. Yeah, sing along. Yeah, I'll do a sing along. Why don't you lead the sing along? All day long. This is going to be great. The two things that have really blown up for us while you've been away, that and, of course, our single. a lot of cries out crying out for us to do a football world cup well the the the the slight issue with that is yeah verne's taken some shit things that we did and used ai to turn into a thing right yeah we can't use ai no we can't use ai but i'm saying actually actually do a song yeah actually do a song i'm i by the way i i i was like that ai is just a base of going oh actually there's a tune here yeah yeah and actually the AI generated we weren't singing to a tune no no but we could the words were ours I think you might be underestimating what the AI actually did but no no can I say the words were ours and that's the thing that really struck a lot of people yeah okay his body turned to ash yeah and then what did you say I think that's the darkest bit the funniest line is the the Game Boy so he had to play with his dong that is the line of the yeah actually my favourite line is I never tried it Bill that's kind of wow who's Bill what's he about yeah yeah but I think yeah there's a song there so i think we could actually do our own song at the night have you heard that have you seen this thing where people are turning text messages into songs have you seen that uh have we talked about this the pick the pickup do you know a pickup song no this girl called amber yeah she said i put all my ex's text into a tune and it's like i don't want to sing it but anyway it's a it's so catchy and it sounds like a tune by notes the singer and so then he recorded it and put it out with that like notes and amber have now got it out it's like pick the fuck up now i can't do it i can't sing it anyway it's amazing song so but this is what we can do that i always done a version of that we just then take that song and we record it with us yeah okay the problem is is that notes could say that that song was done in the style of notes and he was able to sing it like that can you sing it like the ai generated okay um yeah um Heartbreak is the hottest thing It's the hottest thing, old friend Heartbreak is the hardest thing Okay, you're getting a bit closer Heartbreak is the hottest thing, old friend Heartbreak is the hottest thing It'll kill you in the end I'll get some lessons Yeah, okay I think we're still quite far away I think the club night's probably easier But anyway, the club night's happening What I don't want to do is perform that song at the club night You can't perform that That's kind of what you were suggesting.

18:44No, no. That was the direction you were moving to. No, it's another song. Okay, fine. And we could do one in the autumn in London. Yeah, and then we do one up north. Up north, yeah. Okay. Later in the year. Yeah, all right, fine. Oh, mate, this is so cool. It's exciting, isn't it? Yeah. We'll go out together and get like 501s, YSL shirts. Yeah, we can buy that. You don't have to buy that. Patrick Cox's. The old wannabes. I'm trying to think. I used to wear like a YSL shirt, jeans. Have you seen those really, those wig things, that proper toupees? A guy contacted me about toupees and he was like, look, if you want to come in and try one of these, I might get a toupee for it.

19:23Have you seen the guys, like the hair systems where they glue them on and they wear them for like weeks at a time? Yeah, yeah. I might get one of those for this. Tom, please, like for the weeks around it, get a hair system. I'll get a hair system for this. I would fucking love to see it. It depends if I'm working, but yeah, for the night I'll get a hair system. Yeah, yeah. I'll get a, yeah. Yeah, I mean, knowing you, you might pull out of the night because something's come in. No, no, I won't. I'm so looking forward to this. I can't tell you. It's going to take a bit of organisation though, isn't it?

19:50Yeah, I mean, but yeah, lucky enough we're surrounded by a really, really good team of organisers. You know who'd be great for organising? Ben Green. He'll love a club night. No, he won't. He'll love a club night. Yeah, he will love it, but I don't think he should be organising it. Who did? John? Jean? Well, I just think when we say these things, Flo and the team off the kerb start to get nervous yeah John's looking nervous because what they know is that we spat off a load of shit on the podcast yeah but I think and then we say we're really looking forward to it we're going to put it on and then we do we need this we need this what are you okay tell me what are you we've arranged to do this well do you know who we like Avon and Stringer Bell okay but tell me what you're going to do when this podcast finishes to make this happen what today I'll probably sit with John and go right what were we looking at venue wise well you just give me one job to do this and I'll fucking I'll get on it uh okay sort out ticketing okay cool would like draw the tickets draw the tickets what make a cool looking ticket no what have you been ticketing there's not gonna be physical tickets oh okay well there would have been back in the day right yeah you'd have got a physical ticket oh yeah but we can't be asked to fuck around with that can we getting a physical ticket okay so you just have it on your phone yeah although physical actually it's not I think we're going to go back to the night.

21:08Hold on, did you have physical tickets to nightclubs? Didn't you just pay on your way in? No, you paid on your way in, but we can't do that. Yeah. Oh, you know what we could have? Wolf and Al bucks. What did they get you? Like drinks and stuff. You buy your drink, your Wolf and Al. It's like, you know, if you go to Lapland, UK, and you buy the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it. Yeah, you get Wolf and Al bucks. Yeah. I don't know, like a Wolf buck is worth five pounds, and Al buck is worth ten. It's like, yeah, wow, look at this. Fucking Al, my Wolf and Al bucks. and some people keep them, make them into chains, pendants.

21:37Yeah, okay. I don't know about the bucks. I think you're adding a lot of needless logistics and then cut to you talking to John going, where the fuck are the bucks? What is fucking Wolf and Al bucks, mate? I've had the idea, you make it happen. What are you doing, John? What are you doing? I'm supposed to see the fucking buck prototype today. This is exciting. I'm very excited about it Lisa coming? I mean we've thought about it now I'm going to invite Lisa I'm close with Lisa Theo, is Theo coming? The Theoman The Theosaurus He's over 30s isn't he? Oh yeah that's true He can't break the rules He's going to struggle Lisa's only 23 of course If we do it year after next Lisa might be able to come But okay we'll do it This is exciting.

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23:34Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the Unreal College Deal. Everything you need to study and play with select Windows 11 PCs. eligible students get a year of microsoft 365 premium and a year of xbox game pass ultimate with a custom color xbox wireless controller learn more at windows.com student offer while supplies last ends june 30th terms at aka.ms college pc um did you watch the uh kevin hart roast yes yeah okay first of all what's your opinion on roast comedy uh i don't think when we tried it on here and I was awful at it I don't think it's something I'd be particularly good at do I enjoy it yeah I enjoy when someone's really good at it I think if someone's exceptional I think Nikki Glacier I loved her on the Tom Brady one I think if you're really really good at it I think yeah it's a good thing to see Tom Brady was actually good on the Kevin Harlow he was yeah I think he was obviously he didn't write any of it no I think I thought Cheryl Underwood Cheryl Underwood yeah he was outstanding I thought she was probably player of the match by a long way.

24:47Yes. and the rock did what the rock would do at a race. Can we talk about, can we talk about one particular aspect of that with regards to the rock? Now, obviously everybody got excited late on in the evening. The rock comes on. I'd say after Cheryl were under with it, sort of it needed something. Yeah. So the rock comes on looking immaculate. Yeah. Everyone's buzzing their tits off. Yeah. His entrance, by the way, can I just say, I will say this, right. When you're doing it, because, uh, as you're aware, I sometimes go so big when I'm about to start a tour show that I think I can't actually follow it.

25:20The act itself, the entrance is so big and grand. Yeah. It's kind of fucking mad. You're always very funny. If I introduce you to stage, you always come off and give me a look to say, why the fuck have you done that? Why are you literally, you're intro to a boxer? There's not a fight happening. It's some jokes. So when I watched The Rock, I was like, okay, now, you, yeah. What was his entrance? He did, can you snap? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. so he comes out he looks unbelievable it's incredible can I say what I wear the weight loss on him yeah yeah really good because he was looking like a fat fuck before wasn't he no but he was so big it's good for him to lose some fucking timber you fucking flabby c*** so anyway so he comes out looks great starts doing the jokes I thought this stuff was great delivered it beautifully he's a funny the rock is funny he's charismatic is what he is yeah the bit that I thought was weird yeah it's a really interesting bit yeah yeah okay so earlier in the night i think probably one of the most exciting moments of the evening is when cat williams comes out who actually hates kevin hart right yeah you don't believe that i don't i think if you really hated someone so but i don't think he likes him and he does he does think he's an industry plant and he does think he's a sellout yeah yeah i agree then but i will say that yeah go on so he comes out and he says uh something about kevin hart engaging in coonery basically right which is kind of like just uh undermining your culture and race for the benefit of of the white audience right yes sort of that's kind of a rough explanation so anyway the rock says to kevin hart they're about to have a drink and the rock says to kevin hart come and sit on my knee right and the audience start getting excited and kevin hart is thinking about it and shane gillis i don't if you remember this he says don't do it because then cat williams will be right oh shit yeah i heard him say i think yeah so so basically what he's saying is do not make a mug of yourself here by sitting on the rock's knee and because it's in back so then kevin so then you got this awkward thing where the rock i mean if you watch it back this is my recollection of it is the rock thinks that this is going to be a moment yeah kevin hart is now in a quandary because basically it's a bit of a weird move and then so then he sort of refused because i'm fucking doing and it's gets it's a bit of an awkward moment the whole suck your titty thing but that that's so that's the other thing the rock is saying to him suckle at my suckle on my teat or whatever yeah yeah what the fuck was that yeah but that's you know what this is right and i believe in it i think he's got and you see this happen right you see when like i need to be very careful because i don't never want to be horrible right so about the rock no not about the rock but because there's someone else so i did a charity night recently great lineup brilliant lineup some of our really good friends on the lineup yeah um and there was a person on there who wasn't a comedian nice guy good guy yeah goes up to do a bit for the charity so he's talking about the charity and he goes into a bit when he's doing a bit of spill and he's doing a bit and he gets a couple of laughs right and he's a funny charismatic person he gets a couple of laughs and we're all up there and we're told 10 minutes no longer all of a sudden this guy's doing 15 minutes right and it's going on because he's got those laughs and all yeah and he got excited yeah and and you see it happen like that happens with comedians as well yeah it does yeah it does but most of us go i'm here for 10 minutes even if i'm crushing it or whatever you go i'm here for 10 and i'll go and he i could see you can see someone going this is fucking great because even when they cut he comes off he's like you know i this i i could do stand up and you're like you know a charity car by its very nature great but they're always very lovely and giving do you know i mean it's a very different thing you know and i think that's what happened to the rock but also i think like everyone now as you say he's after the moment yeah viral and so all that stuff i will say but i thought kevin hart was incredible when he came back his race at the end his race at the end i think that you know the talking point of like hinchcliffe's joke so hinchcliffe's joke was um george floyd will be looking up looking up at you and not able to breathe it's something like that wasn't he'd be laughing so much that he'd be looking up at you and unable to breathe i just didn't think like i look at and think why like why have that joke like that is that is not even a joke well so it's it's it's look he is a very controversial figure he says some stuff outlandish stuff i will say that i think i've seen him on roasts and think he's brilliant i think he's done roasts where he's He's a roast comic.

29:52Yeah. Like, you know, he does. He's good at that. Well, I'm like, why? That roast wasn't about. So that roast, the joke of itself is like when you're looking across the dais, is it called? The dais? Oh, the dais. Dais. So you're looking across that. All the people there is the point. That's meant to be the aim of what you're doing. The aim is supposed to be Kevin Hart, right? why do you need to make a joke about a guy who's been killed in police custody that's the thing why I'm sitting there it feels pointless as to like so your joke about Kevin isn't that strong you haven't got enough stuff so you're having to then drag in something else to put that to what felt like I think he's looking for a shock if you mention George Floyd it is going to be shocking and so what people are reacting to is the very mention of George Floyd and then he's looking up some people have said like either it means he's looking up because there's a police officer stood over him or he's in hell yeah right i think i think i think it's he's in hell because he's saying george george floyd would be looking up so he's suggesting that's where he is now but the thing is right that's not it's not a joke no like like i'm pretty unoffendable as i think you are as well i think with comedy i think like yeah it's like it's a roast right and you can go nearly anywhere but that but that is not a joke and and and it brings into question the thing of like you know people talking about white writers being on that show and making jokes about you know i think shane gillis there was some attention brought to his what did he say that we'd have to you'd have to lynch him from a bonsai tree right yeah so there's all this stuff that's like it's a bit you know there's been a bit of uproar about it and i understand i sort of understand both sides of the argument you know i mean it's like all bets are off but the the thing is is if you're coming into that i think it's one thing if you're coming into that not having regularly made those jokes before and then you decide to push the pushing like be a bit edgy yeah or i think sometimes the problem is where it's coming from right so if if you if you i'm not saying you ever would but if you made a racist joke and a roast right yeah people would go i know tom doesn't mean that because i've never heard him say my big thing with all this yeah above anything else is that through the whole thing is that when you go back and watch the tom brady one and and new charlie sheen roast or justin beaver's roast or numerous other roasts and if you actually break those down they're about a person's character so i think it's the same thing i've said for the last 15 years about your eye i think if i'm ever at a point where if someone sits me in the street and makes a joke of it i'm like i'd be embarrassed if that's the thing that i'd be going at right so i found that when they're making jokes about kevin hart they're not actually about his character and not about kevin hart they're about race and about yeah they're the two things they're the two easiest things so it's not any cunning and it's not any cleverness to write those two things because they're actually not going at Kevin.

32:58The only person he actually did was Tom Brady. I'm going off to Vegas to deal with my affairs. He's the only person really who's gone and think Cheryl Underwood did. Cheryl Underwood, by the way, out of everyone at that, is almost like the race to Cheryl Underwood or Chelsea Handler. I think both of those two have taken more of a kick in on a personal level than Kevin did. I don't think anyone. So then you go into a place and going, is this whole thing? And obviously when cats come on, cats had to go. but actually for a lot of it, they're not really going in at Kevin for that. So then you're looking at a place where it's like, yeah, we'll have a roast, but you're not allowed to mention this, this, this, which very much for the nature of what a roast is, is completely, you lose any sort of weight of what it actually means.

33:40So you're drawn into a place where you're like, any of this is just, that could just be about any person from that world. Like, do you know what I mean? It could be about any short person or any bad person. It doesn't need to be about Kevin Hart. so I think when I talk about Nicky Glazer whose people are really really good at it you know I think like Jeffrey Jeff Ross wherever you think he always takes a kick on those things yeah but it's about Jeff Ross about his appearance about Jeff Ross his you know whatever his sex life his whatever but it's about Jeff Ross and that's where I sat there and watched I was like you know I love Kevin I like Kevin Hart I'm not a hater but I'm like nothing seems to be about you it's about well I mean the stuff they said about The women was horrible.

34:22And like Chelsea handlers. I thought she was incredible. I think she handled it with. Well, she was obviously pissed off about it and then kicked back it against it. And I thought Shane Gillis, when Shane Gillis was, I think Shane, I mean, he's one of my favourite comedians. I love Shane Gillis. I think he's very funny. But I was like, he also, you know, gave it to Chelsea. Chelsea gave it to him. I think that's also carried on after. What's insane is everyone's kind of had that, oh yeah, well, and the aftermath of it has almost been like a boxing or a football match where people have walked away and there's clearly a bone of contention about all of it yeah um i i watched it thinking this is not the big dummy d yeah yeah yeah well look i mean you what you came down to the last two didn't you for the last spot on it could you imagine the one thing i know who you know do you know who was brilliant on it was the guy who's come up with kevin oh my the writer who turned around at the end and said they promised us to land and a mule oh my god we got a mule i thought i was one of the best like that's what I mean that's a joke here that was really good one of the things I don't understand about that is why the fuck and I know they're mates of Kevin Hart's or whoever why the fuck you'd want to sit on that deus if you're not part of the roast no oh you know who's also brilliant who's the woman who ran out it's like it was his dead man oh was it Regina Hall oh mate she was fucking that's the sort of stuff if I was going to do it I'm like this is surreal and it's a bit fucking mad yeah it's very funny yeah I do want to address this before we go to Tom's big closer.

35:51But obviously Tom and I have been talking about, you and I have been talking about kissing each other. Yeah, it's been a run of this. And it turns out that there are a lot of men who want to smash or be smashed by you. Yeah. And I do think you didn't think it would be quite as big as it is. Well, you played me some voice notes and there were a lot. Yeah. so yeah it turns out you've got a big following yeah and you know what I appreciate each and every one of you very much thank you for being a part of the journey yeah maybe maybe not so many graphic pictures the graphic pictures I don't need but you know what your support and love is all good here baby uh right Tom can you take us out this please yeah hmm ha a magnifying glass friend ha what's it to do magnify things Tom yeah I guess so hmm but do we need a magnifying glass for that how do we look inside ourselves without a magnifying glass how do we look at the small feelings that become big feelings or the big feelings that should become small feelings i guess what i'm saying is how do we look deep down how do we examine ourselves the moods we're in the moves we make how do we think about those things see exteriorly it's always good you can look i feel upset because it's raining or i feel happy because it's sunny but the weather isn't really that deep.

37:11The truth is you are. What I want you to do today is I want you to look inside yourself and say, how do I really feel today? Am I happy? Could I be happier? Am I sad? Could I be sad? Could I be happier? Am I sad? Why? Why am I feeling sad? Sit with the feelings for a little bit. Sit with them and think, why do I feel this way? See, it's always easy to blame other things, weather people other stuff examining the real reason getting to the root of it that can be the most beneficial thing of all so imagine you've got a little magnifying glass and imagine that you look in a mirror and very much it's like an x-ray you can look inside yourself and when you You won't just see bones and organs and blood and stuff.

38:09You might just catch a glimpse of what's really going on deep down. And when you see that thing, go, huh, wow, that's a feeling. I'm alive. Sit with it. Enjoy it. And remember, you're the best. Am I happy? Could I be happy?

38:29Could I be sad? Oh, my God. Thank you so much. hard of those do you know but i guess you i need to do a shout out there was a guy who came to uh uh the chatham show he loved a young man and afterwards he waited and he came i had a long chat with him and i won't name him because i don't think it's fair and he he we chatted about it but he gave me a book and in the book it was loads of my stupid ways not until he put it together he put it's a beautiful book and he put it together he's an incredible young man he's been through a lot um and and i found the book very touching i also went through the book with grats and was like oh my god i've said a load of fucking stupid moronic things but it meant a lot it was a really really sweet gift yeah and and i cherish that big shout out to you man thank you so much for giving that to tom and i really enjoyed my gift as well i know he he loves you he actually he's got a picture of you as well he can i say he yeah also by the way someone showed me a picture of you with them you look so fit it was like it was you in peak running rom so i look worse now No, actually, it's you weirdly think you're actually filling out quite nicely muscular.

39:33You're doing some weights, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're good. You're nice. You got something nice about it, don't you? Okay, this is... Also, shout out Original Source. Oh, yes. Oh, my God! Original Source. What's happened with Original Source? Original Source sent me a load of... Have they sent us? Oh, they have been in touch. Yeah, apparently they're going to send it to me. Yeah. So anyway, Original Source, thank you. Thank you. We mentioned your shower gels and they've sent a care package to each of us. Cool, thank you very much. Thank you so much for that. Our balls and goochies, thank you. Actually, I don't want to make this go on even longer.

40:08This is the last bit. Can I just say there's a sort of toilet paper that you have that makes your butthole so itchy and it literally goes all the way to your gooch and to your ball bag with itchiness. It's like it's had itching powder. I want to find out what toilet paper is. But I used it the other day in a pub after a dump and it absolutely destroyed me. I mean who's taking a shit at a pub

40:34ladies and gentlemen friends if you take a shit at a pub and it's not an emergency just a normal night out you deserve to have a fucking allergic reaction to the toilet tissue like a subscribe email into the wolfowpod at gmail.com peace love it You