S4 Ep 28: Halloween Costumes & A Dance Contest

21:41Yeah, I get you. That and a load of Bulgarian lager. I just, I didn't have it. And I was very worried about the food. I had food poisoning out there before. So I made an oath that I wouldn't eat food out there. I'd just eat like food that had already been packaged elsewhere.

21:55Romesh Ranganathan:I would say it's quite a risky oath for you to take that you're not going to eat food. No, but like I wasn't going to eat like Bulgarian cuisine at the time. Which later I found out, by the way, was absolutely delicious. And it was just a rogue bit of sushi that I'd had. Oh, okay. Anyhow, back to your table. The tale. The tale of... Oh, yeah. So anyway, in the run-up to this event, the boys had started going to me, are you going to enter the parent-child dance competition? And I said, no, obviously not. And then Theo started really winding me up, going, well, that's a bit disappointing, isn't it?

22:26Romesh Ranganathan:Because mum's done it before. And I said, yeah, but I'm not doing it. And then Theo said, wow, okay. Started really laying it on thick, just going, wow, all right, so what, my own dad won't take part in the dance competition? I'm very proud of Theo, by the way. and then Lisa started going yeah, Rom to the point where I'm not proud of this I got annoyed I don't know how much I was joking but it did get to a point where I said that I might not go oh my god oh my god you said I'm not going to come if you're not going to bully me into doing a dance competition I ain't coming, son you can't make me your mum two nights ago ran away from my advances what am i in this house so i was sort of half joking and then lisa went lisa was like rom do yourself a favor just do it for the boys and then it's so sad that she'll sort of find himself fantasizing about the idea that lisa might one day talk to me like that i would fucking love it if i got because i'm away If I came home and Lisa went, oh, my God, you've been filming the weakest link.

23:38Romesh Ranganathan:I tell you, who isn't the weakest link? You, you fucking chocolate bar of fucking hotness. Bring your Toblerone over here. I don't think it's all right for you to sort of do the chocolate thing. I'll tell you. What you've done there, my friend, has become a little bit too comfortable. You know?

24:04Romesh Ranganathan:Anyway, Lisa goes to me, Lisa goes to me, we're only winding you up, you silly bugger. Oh, no. Seriously you said that? Yeah, I mean, I wasn't really, it's one of those things where you don't know how much you're joking. Do you know what I mean? It gets a bit muddied. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, then I go to the, we go to the event. I go to Aldra, get myself a Heineken Zero, which, by the way, how much non-alcoholic lager do you drink? A little bit. It makes you very farty, I've noticed, I've observed. Heineken is a really bad lager. What, is the alcoholic lager fart as well? Yeah, because Heineken, I think, is the most chemically enhanced lager that there is.

24:48Romesh Ranganathan:I think it inspired whatever that drink is in BFG. What's it called? Yeah, the fart drink. Yeah, the fart drink. I think that was Heineken. It's got a really chemical... I think it's my worst... I've got quite a lot of it in the fridge, actually. We bought some for a barbecue and no one drank it. Everyone just flew. That was just fucking probably about three years ago. So we've still got some. Oh, OK. You've got it in the fridge still? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, you've had a load of beer in your fridge for three years. It's disgusting. I'd buy other beer. Yeah, but why are you refrigerating it then? What are you doing?

25:27Romesh Ranganathan:You've kept... Oh, yeah, I'm sure you would. I'm sure you're saving the best stuff for when I come round. so you've got a load of lager that you hate by the way let's not get into the fact that the lager that you hate the most you've stocked up on for your guests for this barbecue no I didn't know I hated it at the time at the time I was just like wow Heineken doing non-alcoholic beer fucking let's get stuck in so I brought a lot of it so it's Heineken Zero so you bought a load of Heineken Zero yeah okay fine and so you by the way the reason I had Heineken Zero is the only thing that was available non-alcoholic but I only bought it then I had a can of it when people were around I was like oh this is disgusting in also like a lot of people were a lot of people weren't having on having the alcoholic beer even if i was yeah so i got left so you kept that on ice for three years now yeah okay weird i think that's i think that's weird no not weird i'm like for example to be fair actually when you i didn't know you liked it when you came around i don't like it yeah but you didn't know you didn't like it when you came around my house the other month i could have given you a couple of cans of it then Yeah, you could have done.

26:29Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, well done. I mean, there are other ways to get rid of it. I'm not throwing it away. I don't throw it away, but get it out the fucking fridge. I mean, environmentally, you've kept a load of beer that you hate, chilled, for three years, almost half a decade. Do you know how hard it is to get rid of fucking non-alcoholic Heineken fucking a can of the right? So if you come out of someone else, and then turn around and go, oh, by the way, would you like a can of Heineken? Oh, by the way, it's warm. Fucking, they'll go, actually, you know what? I'll just have a glass of water. How long do you think it takes Arga to get down to sort of drinking temperature, do you think, in the fridge?

27:08Romesh Ranganathan:It isn't 18 months. Maybe like if you know we're coming round, as you did, just get it in there just before. Yeah, but now I didn't, yeah, I wish I'd given it to you. You could have probably, you'd have sunk about three or four cans of Mojira. Well, I wouldn't, well, I would have done, had I, because I wouldn't have known what I now know, which is it turns you to bloody little doing whiz pops all over the fucking gaff do you know what I mean did you let Theo have a can of can of it no I'd ask him if he wanted to try I did actually ask him if he wanted to try it because he was like he doesn't like beer he keeps saying to me I said to him you've got to push through that if you really want to enjoy beer and then he smelt it and he goes I don't understand what the inclination is to drink that something that smells like that you know what I'm saying if you really want to like beer you've got to push through it my boy you've got to push through with my son get a little get a little taste go on no I mean I said it sort of light heartedly I don't know why sometimes I don't know why I share stories with you well I do know we're desperate for content anyhow go on so the dance so you've had about three or four cans of Heineken Zero no two glasses of Heineken Zero I went to the bar said can I get you got any non-alcoholic drinks she got she goes we've got Heineken Zero I said I love a Heineken Zero she goes oh my god it's you isn't it you're the comedian and I go yeah she goes I bloody love you Rickish I said alright just give me the beer let me get the hell out of here Rickish Rickish a lot of people say Ramesh to me Ramesh look it's not right but it's okay do you know what I mean as Whitney Houston said but well yeah they had a bar at the school hall it wasn't the school hall it was it was like a social club oh nice so anyway then then the boys I mean at the back of the social club there's people like having a night out a social club I mean they must be still a thing I didn't know that but I used to do a social club on a Friday or Saturday night that's what living was I loved it when I was a kid my dad would go there he'd meet up with his mates and he'd leave me sat on the floor with a packet of crisps for hours it was lovely the magic of childhood am I right anyway then the boys started going are you going to do the dance competition and then I realised that they're pretending to wind me up, but they actually wanted you to do it.

29:24Romesh Ranganathan:Anyway, long story short, that ship sailed. I didn't do it. Is that bad? I thought this whole thing was going to end with you doing it. Tom. I thought it was fucking hell. There's a woman behind the bar. Why bring it up? Why bring it up? If you didn't... So you bloused out. I did blouse out, but the problem is, I don't think I would have bloused out if I wasn't a comedian. Do you know what I mean? I just had visions of videos of me dancing going on social. Can I just say, by the way, you have got shapes. You can move. There's no doubt. You don't understand how these dance competitions go, man.

29:58Romesh Ranganathan:You've got to choreograph a thing for two minutes. Then you've got to go up in front of a judge. You've got three fucking sons. I would take your fucking sons all day long in a dance. All three of them are fucking very talented dancers, a.k.a. show people. Do you know what I mean? They've got that fucking gift. You know, they're going to probably do a lot of the hard work. And then you've just got to follow the... You'd have smashed it. if I was there this is what I'd have done I'd have gone like oh yeah what was Rengar Afer and did a fucking dance off and so I'd go he's just a comedian I'd go 500 quid says he'll fucking win the thing yeah well you would the truth is you would have lost your money because the standard to some of the parents I mean I don't want to I don't want to say anything untoward but there's a couple of people that I'm pretty sure had been rehearsing and putting something together before they arrived there a couple of the parents but it's random isn't it it's picked out of a hat what do you mean it's random What do you mean it's picked up?

30:49Romesh Ranganathan:No. You don't pick your child out of a hat. No, but you've got three kids you can pick. You've got three kids that you can pick from. Yeah, but you do it with one of your kids. It's not random parents with any old fucking kids. And then suddenly you're twerking with some child that you didn't know before you arrived at the fucking event. Are you mad? I'm not sure I thought you meant. No. It was a random thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, here you go. You're with little Susie. See how you get on. Oh, hello. Why are you crying? Because you've never met me before and I'm a 47-year-old man who you're going to have to now do the Lombarda with.

31:20Romesh Ranganathan:Fuck me, where'd I pull that from? Lombarda? Jesus Christ. That's the second time a woman's run away from me after trying to tolerate with her. Anyway, I didn't do it, but now I feel bad. You've made me feel bad about it. You'd have done well. I've told them next year I'm going to do it. You should start practising now. I don't think I'm going to spend a year rehearsing for that.

31:47I'm so hot in this room it's ridiculous yeah I'm quite warm actually I'm literally sweltering you know what on a sad I'm I'm working this Friday and it's Grace's leaving assembly at nursery I'm devastated I got back from work tonight and Catherine's like oh Grace's really excited she's got a proper little part in the the sort of leaving assembly assembly. She gets up and she's got a little speech. I was like, oh, mate. And Jenny felt like the knife going through my heart. I was absolutely...

32:19Romesh Ranganathan:Well, it's a knife going through her heart. That's a terrible analogy. Do you know what I mean? Jesus Christ. Sorry, that was not... So dark. I think what's happened there, my friend, is you got a little comfortable. Oh! Look at him. You must have had that, right? Pardon? Missing things like that. No, I would never work if I had a thing like that on. I'd always say I can't make it. But, you know, look, it's up to you how you sort of prioritise parenting. Do you know what I mean? You don't, you know, some of us sort of place our child's development over money. Do you know what I mean? But if, listen, you're doing a big thumbs up, I'm sure it's a big deal.

32:56Romesh Ranganathan:Do you know what I mean? Yeah, or obviously ego and the fact that one woman who, in a room full of strangers who actually got your name wrong, you didn't want to make a fool out of yourself and you broke your poor son's heart. well I mean he seemed pretty unbothered by it to be honest with you but anyway who would you have danced with by the way just not what you want to pick well Charlie wasn't up for it to be honest with you so he's out so it's between Theo and Alex Alex was the most keen go Alex yeah because Theo Theo's now got an edge and he's fucking so cool I know yeah I know he'll probably start trying to choreograph something a bit mad anyway should we do some emails Tom let's do it my friend let's do it Okay.

33:41Romesh Ranganathan:What's up with you? I'm so red and hot in this fucking room. It's ridiculous. Right, let's do it. Okay, so this is from The Concerned Otter. Hello, The Concerned Otter. Big fan of the pod. You keep long days at work entertaining, even if you are talking about Mickey Drips. Oh, wow. I'm writing as I'd like to... I mean, I'm taking that as the Mickey Drips chat's gone on too long. I'm writing as I would like some advice from you both as parents. Well, I don't know if you've been listening concerned, Otter, but I really have covered myself in shame in that regard. I'm happy to try. I have a daughter who is six years old and has joined the scout club, Beavers.

34:17Romesh Ranganathan:All the kids she goes with are from other schools and have their own friendship circles. This doesn't seem to bother my daughter. She gets stuck in and isn't conscious of the fact that from the outside, she is the outsider. Later this month is her first camp out without parents, I may add, and I, for one, am very concerned, to say the least. should I be not allowing my own need to be accepted in friendship circles get in the way of the fact that this doesn't seem to bother her her confidence makes me so proud of her am I being too irrational by putting my fears of social situations and friendships onto her experience when she really isn't getting worried by this herself the last thing I want is to develop the same feelings I have with such like would love to know your guys opinion from the concerned otter yo the concerned otter number one I've actually yeah had this this feeling a little bit recently myself with a few things like number one i think the first thing as a parent is that feeling of when you're watching your kid going into a any sort of situation like a social situation or a club situation and they feel they look so small and they look so daunted by it we've i've recently been on saturdays taking grace to like a club in the morning and and you see her um but then she's like your daughter she she just gets stuck in and she sort of makes friends and you know she's going through a phase where she's just did the boys go through a phase where they like work out what emotion like she she all the time comes up and she goes daddy i'm a little bit nervous and i'm like and i'm like are you actually nervous and then she just yeah and then you're like and then i think she's just found out with the word nervous and quite likes it which i still do to this day but i i i think i think the thing i worry about is how many times I stopped doing things and even when I was sort of early teens or whatever and I pulled out of things because you know I because of social circles or I was worried and you know about fitting in or whatever and I think like I look I look back now and some of that probably anxiety was is passed generally generationally down so I think if your daughter I think there's just something to be said about someone who can go into a social situation and like your daughter does at the moment and not feel daunted or intimidated by the fact that she's not in a social circle and actually just flourish and just think, fuck it.

36:32Because I think we lose that as we get older a little bit. We start, you know, if you hear, for example, you're going to go to a thing, or even if it happens to commit comedy, I think. You turn up at a gig and there's a group of people who gig together a lot and know each other really well, you do feel like an outsider then. And it's like, you know, it's a tough thing to break into. and you sort of think back. So I think it's, you know, I mean, I think if she wants to go, I think you should let her go. And I think it's an exciting thing sometimes to actually sort of look at your kid and go, maybe I learn a little bit from them.

37:08Like the things that they can teach us may be infinitely more important than some of the old dribble that we try and teach them. And I think actually just picking up those little things along the way. and remembering what it is to get that sense of wonder and that sense of kind of not giving a fuck what people think is important. So maybe take a leaf in that book and let us know how she gets on. I hope she has a great time. Much love, my friend. Good luck. I hope that worked. I was very stuttery there. Well, you know, it was a long old walk for essentially one point, wasn't it?

37:47Romesh Ranganathan:But I would say I've got some great news for you, Concerned Otter. You don't have a problem. There's nothing to worry about. Just let her go. It's absolutely fine. It's great. It's good. She's not got any issues with it. Just congratulations, man. This is great news. Just let her go and do it. I actually would go as far as to say, you know, I think Tom did make a good point about not giving a fuck. because I think people underestimate how much not giving a shit what people think about you would add to your happiness it's almost immeasurable how much better your life would be if you stopped giving a shit what people thought about you how you dress how you dance how you eat how you talk what you're like in social situations the truth is if you get like Tom and I have to the point where we've had complaints into the podcast if you get like super negative and go oh my god everybody thinks i look like shit and blah blah it's a form of narcissism do you mean it's like a form of ego the truth is nobody is thinking about you they're just thinking about themselves you know and so i think not only should you celebrate what your daughter's doing and let her just get on with it but as tom said take that on board stop giving a shit man it really is really good to stop giving a shit about what people think about it it's liberating feels amazing try it try it like from this moment stop giving a shit it's so good it's great and you can't always do it you know there have been times when i've given a shit mainly when i'm looking at the spotify feedback on this podcast but essentially you know stopping giving a shit is like it's freedom man and it's as easy as just deciding you're going to stop right now so good luck to you hope it goes well my guy the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years.

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41:14Romesh Ranganathan:Next email. This is from the blonde orangutan. Tang, a tang, isn't it? No, no. I sometimes say orangutan, and I'm not going to chastise you for saying that, but it is orangutan. Orangutan. Yeah. So everyone's got it wrong? There's no G in it? No, not everyone's got it. I don't think everyone's saying orangutan. I've all said orangutan. I know you have, but it's a leap to then say everybody's. I've never heard anyone called orangutan. Orangutan? Orangutan. I've never said orangutan. I've never heard anyone say that. Well, you don't have to say it like doing that with your mouth. You just sort of throw it out, orangutan.

41:54Romesh Ranganathan:I had a bit of celery in my teeth. I find that very hard to believe. Okay, here's the email. Dear Wolf and Owl, I wanted to say how much my husband... I don't know what you think about this, Tom. I wanted to say how much my husband and I love the pod and let you know that when we go to the gym and face the cold plunge, I go down the steps saying, Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis. And my husband says, Rommashranganathan, Rommashranganathan, Rommashranganathan. Do you give us the strength to get in? It's become a strange little ritual. Anyway, thanks for being you and lots of love, the blonde orangutan.

42:26Romesh Ranganathan:What do you think? Mate, that makes me feel fucking so special. That's an incredible thing. I would say your husband's picked the harder of the two in terms of a mantra and a chant. Yeah, I mean, it's... Even I couldn't say it there very quickly. Rommashranganathan, Rommashranganathan, Rommashranganathan, Rommashranganathan. To be fair, it sounds cooler if you get into a rhythm, though, rather than Tom Davis. Romeshang and Ethan, Romeshang and Ethan, Romeshang and Ethan, Romeshang and Ethan. It sounds like you're playing Kabaddy. Yeah, but, mate, it's got, if you get Romeshang and Ethan, Romeshang and Ethan, Romeshang and Ethan, that's better than Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis.

43:02There's no way you can give any...

43:04Romesh Ranganathan:I can't even say that. Oh, God, have I got something wrong with me? Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis. Tom Davis, Tom Davis. Oh, God. I hate finding out new things to worry about. But, as I said, don't give a... Well, I can't say Tom Davis repeatedly quickly. Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis, Tom Davis. That's what I mean. It's an annoying name to say. I genuinely hate my name. Oh, why are you getting down on yourself for? No, I'm not. It annoys me. What's wrong with you, little cub? Why do you not like your name? It's such a boring name, don't you think? Okay, let's just workshop a name right now.

43:32Romesh Ranganathan:What do you want? Flynn. I think you should do something Asian. Go on, give me an Asian name. What could my Asian name be?

43:43Give me something that suits me. Rahul Dharodra. Rahul Doroja. I love Rahul as a name. You do, yeah. I could fucking... I'd own Rahul as a name.

43:51Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. That would make me so fucking... Hey, what's your name, Tom? Let's just run it now. This is me walking into... Yeah. Hi, how are you doing? You all right? What's your name? My name? Yeah. My name is Chilly Chill. Oh, well... It's sort of a nickname because I once ate like three ice cubes at the pub. And so everyone's called me Chilly Chill since then. what's your name fella Tom Davis well that sounds good you Tom Davis from Merlin Successville well how come you didn't get Romesh Ranganathan to be a guest in there because he was talking about how much a good mate is of yours but you never booked him for it did you yeah the trouble with Romesh I think he'd have tried to sort of be too cool on it if you get to know Romesh very much like yourself he's a very cool hip dude I would say if you wouldn't mind me saying if you don't mind me sort of breaking the fourth wall for a second.

44:48Romesh Ranganathan:We've done some pretty adventurous role plays in our time on this podcast. I wouldn't say the most imaginative one has been you walking to a room and introducing yourself by your real name. No, well, that's me. In terms of putting yourself out there. Right, let me try it now, but with my new name, Rahul. All right. Rahul. Okay. Rahul. What? Oh, what, are we doing it? Are we going from where? Yeah, so this is me. What's your name, fella? Hey, yo, I'm Rahul. Okay, it's Rahul, isn't it?

45:25Yeah, but it feels like I've got another... Yeah, but Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom,

45:29Romesh Ranganathan:it's not a fair experiment, because the way... You went like this. What's your name? Tom, Tom Davis. What's your name? My name is Rahul. Right, can I just say, when you're giggling or someone... You did it like fucking the cat from Puss in Boots. Even when they call your name on and you're doing stand-up and they call your name. Yeah. I sometimes find that, like, oh, God, this is... No, you don't. Why are you making stuff up? No, I swear. Right. I cannot think of a more... Tom Davis is such a... Genuinely... Right. Rob Beckett's a cooler name than Tom Davis. Sean Walsh. Catherine Ryan. Be honest.

46:03They're cooler names. Do you know what I mean? That's what I'm up against here.

46:06Romesh Ranganathan:What's cool about Rob Beckett? I mean, listen, Rob Beckett is a cool name, but I don't think... Rob Beckett is a really cool name. It's a fucking great name. I could have been writing up for a name like Rob Beckett. Why didn't you come up with a showbiz name then? I don't know. Yeah, but that's like Flynn Davis or something like that. Shane Davis. Flynn Davis? Yeah. Tom, listen. I love you, mate. You can't pull off Flynn. I'm sorry. Really? You can't pull off Flynn. You, Flynn. Flynn, you. You haven't got any locker. What about Shane? Shane, borderline. I think you'd have to change a few of your mannerisms.

46:38Romesh Ranganathan:But I think that by having a different name, I think that would automatically make you, you would have grown up different. Do you know what I mean? Dave Davis? Dave Davis? Dave Davis is shit. David Davis. David Davis. Is that what you want your name to be? David Davis. No, I'm saying. No, but I'm seeing what name would suit me. It's not fucking a hard thing. James? James? I think you could put James Davis. And then people call you JD. Yeah, that would be cool. Kevin? You think I've got Kevin in me? I don't, I'm struggling to figure out what your issue is with your name because we're coming up with other suggestions and you're coming up with Kevin.

47:16No, I thought I could carry off Flynn. I've fucking had that in my back pocket for years. And now I'll have to find... Two things.

47:22Romesh Ranganathan:It's a bit late for you to do it. It's much like a hair transplant. That ship has sailed for you. Do you know what I mean? Publicly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, is there a cool name that you could put... Look, Tom, you could pull off it or whatever. If you want to be Flynn Davis. In fact, why don't you call yourself Flynn Davis from now on? Start introducing yourself. I think, introduce yourself as Flynn. People go, all right, Tom, and you go, actually, mates call me Flynn. My mates call me Flynn. Let's try it. Okay. I'm going to try it for a week. See how I've got. No, let's do it right now. Okay, okay.

47:53Romesh Ranganathan:Okay, who am I? It doesn't matter. Okay. Oh, hi, man. How are you? You okay? Hey, man. Hello, how are you? How's it going? Cool party, isn't it? It's a cool party. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty pumping. Hey, did you see that dancer earlier, that guy and his son? Yeah, I did see that. That Rick Ash. Yeah, he's fucking amazing. Just a quick one. Look, I don't know if you... I'm about to say I don't know if you're aware. I know you're aware because I saw you over there. But there's a buffet here. And I couldn't have noticed... I actually didn't think the amount of food that you took was sustainable for the number of people here, if you don't mind me saying.

48:31Romesh Ranganathan:Listen, can I just say, there's nothing worse than being at one of these events, getting over to the buffet table and all the scotch eggs are gone. and you haven't had any of them. No, sure. But what you are doing is you're inflicting that on other people, aren't you? Because... Yeah, but the buffet, my friend, is survival of the fittest. If you sleep on a buffet, it will fucking sleep on you. When I saw you put... Oh, by the way, how presumptuous of me. When I saw you put 17 scotch eggs on your plate at the buffet, I didn't think, there you go, he's won that because he's the fittest. Yes. That wasn't my instinct.

49:04Romesh Ranganathan:Anyway, sorry, we started off on the wrong foot. Do you know what? I'm really sorry I've been a little bit aggressive if you want some Scott Chase if you want some Scott Chase let's let's should we read should we do a redo let's do a redo hello my name's Tim Hobson what's your name oh Tim Hobson er Flynn Flynn Davies that's it

49:24yeah well I wasn't christened Flynn Davies you weren't christened you weren't christened my actual name is Tom Davies but all my best friends call me Flynn so

49:33Romesh Ranganathan:so why have you introduced yourself as Flynn to me then I mean well if anything we came quite close to having an argument and now for some reason you consider your closest friends all of my best friends and all the best friendships I have in my life Tim started off with an argument I think that an argument is almost like making love to a stranger

49:55when have you done that?

49:57Romesh Ranganathan:making love to a stranger? yes like dogging sites and stuff like that ok alright do you know what I don't know if I like you as a Flint sounds really anyway let's chalk that up to experience those couple of role plays and I think what's good about that I think what's really good about that is it makes the other role plays we've done seem that much more impressive doesn't it also I'm not going to play myself I'm good at being another character yeah I've got Larry David in my locker hmm

50:32Romesh Ranganathan:okay should we do one more email my G let's do one more I don't think I've ever been this hot before fucking hell I might have to start recording these outside do you know what the last thing your sound quality on the internet fucking hell we just have a bit of modesty no one's going to see it to the wall for now hope all is well with you and your families I've been re-watching the new Star Wars content like Ahsoka and Andor wondered if you Ramesh have showed any of the animated series to your children considering you said in the past that you're a star wars fan and for tom are there any movie blockbuster franchises that you've really loved or become obsessed with star wars has always been that franchise for him because of the contrast between the light and dark side of the force and what that translates to in real life love your content as always may the force be with you the peaceful turtle you know what i went back and watched uh i watched have you seen a documentary about christian christopher reeve no oh wow wow what a guy what a legend like so i went back and watched all those supermans i think we talked about it weirdly as well yeah we did we talked about it for quite a while yeah yeah yeah it's actually you watch them a bit more sadness now because actually the first i think the second one is one of the best super films ever it's incredible it's one of our superhero films ever made it's a great superhero film the the the one bit of it so did you have you watched it recently can we just yeah yeah there's one bit that if somebody could tell me this is comic book acura i'd love to know because i find it very hard to believe that it is but it's one particular bit where they're in superman's fortress in the arctic or the antarctic whatever it is and one of them comes running towards i can't remember which one it is and superman like pulls off do you know what i'm talking about yeah it pulls off like a logo and it turns into this big plastic sheet and sort of wraps around them.

52:26Romesh Ranganathan:What fucking power is that? What is that? It's a beautiful bit of... I'll tell you what that is. It's a hell of a tailor. I remember even as a kid thinking... Yeah, but Superman's power is not that he knows some really good people in textiles. What is... No, he obviously does. It's like when he's got his suit put together, someone's gone, oh, by the way, with the S, if you're ever in need of it, you throw that around someone, that fucking... Sorry, Tom. this guy has got super strength laser eyes has there never been in any of the Superman suits where he actually goes and designs his suit or is he I've never well has he designed his suit I don't I don't know actually I mean I've not watched all the Superman films so it's very difficult for me to comment I'm rather Marvel you're a Marvel guy aren't you except for Batman Batman is elite yeah so anyway franchise one that Rocky Rambo yeah i'm a still on the still on ones yeah all the style ones what do you think oh mate i love tango and cash um tango and cash is an underrated film can i just say it's great over the top stone was a g man still yeah i mean who made an entertaining film about arm wrestling not sylvester stallone i can tell you over the top no i'm joking it's a joke i just did that deliberately it's uh he's got a vibe man i like him um tango and cash is really good yeah it's a good film.

53:47Have you ever seen a film called Starman? Jeff Bridges.

53:51Romesh Ranganathan:I think I have. God, it's literally... I watched it as a kid and I re-watched it recently. It's fucking amazing. Jeff Bridges. Anyway, welcome to two idiots vaguely remember films I might have seen. Is Star Wars your go-to? No. I do like Star Wars, but I don't think I have a go-to really. But I do like the Star Wars films i do like them have you sat with the boys and watched it so no i've not sat with the boys when i say i've not sat with the boys i'm not sat with the boys but theo and i have been known to enjoy a bit of star wars you know we watched we watched some of the tv series we watched the uh obi-wan series i watched and all without him um and he's watched some of the animation and sort of recommended stuff to me so we're in we are in it's a sweet thing that you've got a sweet thing we went to the two younger ones myself and Lisa went to watch the new Jurassic Park I know this is a bit of a I went to watch the new Jurassic Park film and what's it like well I just thought I thought it was missing something you know and that that thing it was missing was a big lovable galoot the amount the sheer amount of like publicity of that film it's made a billion pounds and then Catherine turned to me the other day and Catherine went oh you know what I keep thinking you probably should have done that film oh gosh she didn't say that did she yeah she did did she know you were tall yeah I didn't talk for about three days after I was absolutely crushed I was like yeah that's what I said at the time anyhow I digress is it really good I'll never be able to watch it because it's just going to break my heart it's fine I love by the way the Jurassic Park movies me too I'm a big fan of that actually that is a franchise I'm into but Tom what I would say is look you don't need to be in that film man you've got your own path you know Yeah, but my path would have been so...

55:46Mate, if I could have been a Jurassic Park movie, it would have been so much.

55:48Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, but what further offers are you going to get because you played the D-Rex? Like, I just don't... I don't... I honestly don't... It doesn't matter. Voicing a grumpy fucking dinosaur. No! No! I'm bloody hell, I'm pissed off. You've bloody come and exploited... You're exploiting the bloody island, aren't you, for your own ends. And once again, the message of this film is man versus greed. You know? And the special effects are going to be incredible, right? I'm asking you about this thing. It's like fucking asking about a girl that you split up with and her new boyfriend. Well, look, what's worse?

56:34Romesh Ranganathan:Turning down Jurassic Park or never being considered for it in the first place? Because that's where I'm at. Turning down's worse. Why? I'm not even in the conversation bro nobody on that film has even fucking heard of me I'm not saying at least by the way your name's not garbage your name isn't garbage they're probably thinking let's get him in I keep thinking that might have been it it for what? the chance that'll be it what chance? you're doing a stand like you're smashing it don't be a dickhead I'll spank you that's what I said to Lisa don't run away like she did let me tell you something you ever fucking come to me with some grinding movements I ain't going nowhere I'm not going anywhere but home

57:20Romesh Ranganathan:right Tom it's about that summer G could you take us out of it life's funny in the summer why where do you look for reflections with mirrors the mirrors get hot the sun gets on and you can't really see clearly I guess that's the thing about weather changing it's very much like life moving forward. Sometimes you see clearly. Blue sky, friend! No clouds. And sometimes, just sometimes, the clouds, well, they rain in. And all of a sudden, what felt like a clear vision or a clear path is somewhat polluted, and you can't see the end of the garden. Truth becomes truth only when lies are thrown into the mist.

58:05Someone told me that once. I can't remember the name, but he'd had three stethers and smell of cigarettes. The truth about life is it's easy to steer through clear days, run a ship on steady water, but sometimes the making of a human being is when you're going through a storm, nay, when the waves thrash down on you and the rain blights your way. and when you get to the destination at the end and someone turns around and says how was the journey here and if you say hmm easy you don't ever really feel like you've earned it but if you say my god we're up against it we were thrashed we were volleyed and we were thrown but we got here anyway well for that moment then you feel that all the merits were deserved so in short what I'm saying is the ups and downs may feel tiresome but never get tired of the journey or the destination yeah really nice thank you yeah yeah

59:20Romesh Ranganathan:the clips JT have brought out a brand new album called what's it called I need to get the word Let God Sort Them Out there's a song on it called Inglourious Bastards the whole album is a Romy recommend though so please JT could you play us out with that thank you so much from listening to what I would say described this as a lower energy episode of The Wolf and Al. Yeah. And a real lesson in, you know, role plays sometimes work, sometimes they don't. And also, heat stroke is... Heat stroke is a thing. And my T-shirt now, you can see my T-shirt started here when we started the podcast and now it's just sort of slowly becoming a V-neck.

59:55Hmm. Yeah. Well, there you go.

59:57Romesh Ranganathan:Thanks so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye. Peace, peace. Thank you, people. Bye-bye. Catch me in the kitchen where the dope is. With an apron, it's whiter than the post is. This is culturally inappropriate. Spread distribution wide open. Now all the smokers call him Moses. Hair on browner than baby roaches. Got your bitch bent over like scoliosis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watching Tiafa with the open. That's the only back and forth that I'm posting. We really netted what we grossing. By the way, I'm writing this on the ocean. This is culturally inappropriate. By the way, this anchor's really frozen.

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