In short
Two hosts chat about post-party cleanup while sober, managing social drinking (including labeling cans), buying wine gifts, and then do a “chat show” style interview segment plus listener Q&A. The episode also includes a roleplay about arriving with wine and a serious advice discussion about sobriety and dating after divorce.
Guests
Tom Davis, comedian/actor/writer and BAFTA winner; also a firefighter (in the listener email context) and two hosts (Romesh and Lisa) who are the main speakers.
Guest background
Tom is known for stand-up and acting, runs a podcast with a best friend, and is promoting the documentary series “Can’t Knock the Hustle” (about stand-up and whether claims hold up).
Key claims
Wine gifting is awkward because you don’t know the recipient’s wine knowledge; sober socializing is anxiety-inducing; “practice not being attached to the outcome” helps with creative release; honesty with ex/current partner matters after sobriety.
Notable examples
A roleplay where “Theo’s dad” brings a South African wine that gets left behind when the “house is on fire”; a listener email from “Trusting Triceratops” about sobriety after alcoholism and whether to post photos publicly.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPost-Party Clean-Up Stories
0:48 to 2:39
Discussion on the aftermath of hosting a party and cleaning up.
“Hello and welcome to the Wolf and I podcast up inside your grill.”
Dishwashing Techniques
2:39 to 4:32
Hosts share their methods for washing dishes without a dishwasher.
“Only for, like, comedy friends and stuff like that.”
Cans vs. Pints: Drinking Experiences
4:32 to 8:14
Debate on the differences between drinking from cans and pints at gatherings.
“And you always rinse, give them a little bit of a rinse.”
Choosing the Right Bottle of Wine
8:14 to 9:10
Hosts discuss the challenges of selecting a bottle of wine as a gift.
Roleplay: Awkward Social Interactions
9:10 to 14:00
Hosts engage in a humorous roleplay about awkward social encounters.
“Every now and again, you'll say to me, Rom, you should do more acting.”
Cold Atmosphere and Quick Words
14:00 to 17:05
The hosts discuss a cold atmosphere and have a humorous interaction with Paul.
“Kiefer, can I have a quick word, please?”
Romesh's Alcohol-Free Challenge
17:05 to 20:42
Romesh talks about his experience not drinking alcohol and his nerves about a football outing.
“See, that's what happens, basically, is when you turn up with any sort of bottle of wine, someone just puts it on the table.”
Texting Friends About Not Drinking
20:42 to 22:32
Romesh discusses the anxiety of texting friends about his decision to abstain from alcohol.
“Well, then it says deleted this message, doesn't it?”
Upcoming Shows and Nerves
22:32 to 23:17
Romesh shares his nerves about upcoming show releases and new projects.
“like I've been to see them a number of times back in the day.”
The Nature of the Chat Show
23:17 to 26:06
Romesh and Tom explore the format and nature of Romesh's upcoming chat show.
“No, but if I come on and it's more like, say, for example, Davina's, that was a deeper chat.”
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Gift Discussions and Banter
26:06 to 28:00
The hosts engage in playful banter about gifts and personal preferences.
Exploring Career Paths
28:00 to 28:44
The hosts discuss their various roles and how they define their main careers.
Dealing with Nerves in Performance
28:44 to 29:30
Romesh shares insights on managing nerves and expectations related to his work.
Reflections on Past Work
29:30 to 31:08
The hosts reflect on their past projects and feelings of pride or disappointment.
“So I looked up what to do when you're nervous about your work.”
Evolving as Creators
31:08 to 32:08
Tom and Romesh discuss how their work has improved over time and their aspirations.
“So you are amongst the seven people who've watched it on Sky.”
A Hilarious Photo Shoot Incident
32:08 to 34:44
Tom recounts a funny experience during a photo shoot involving a stained jacket.
“I actually used you as a reference the other day.”
Silkworms and Crawley
34:44 to 35:36
The hosts humorously discuss the absurdity of a silkworm's journey to Crawley.
“I don't want to be disparaging about the town, but I would say silkworms coming to Crawley.”
Advice on Relationships and Moving On
35:36 to 40:00
The hosts give thoughtful advice to a listener about navigating a new relationship after divorce.
“Recently, I've started to see someone who I work with and she's making me really happy.”
Career Aspirations and Alternatives
40:00 to 42:00
Listeners inquire about the hosts' childhood aspirations and alternative careers.
“And so then it might be difficult for her if you've moved on with someone else and somebody else is sort of getting a different version of you.”
Listener's Career Aspirations
42:00 to 43:19
A listener shares their journey from teaching to firefighting and asks Romesh and Tom about alternate careers.
Romesh and Tom's Childhood Dreams
43:20 to 45:28
Romesh and Tom discuss their childhood aspirations and how they envisioned their careers.
“I'd sort of, well, I'm with quite, yeah, I've been around people who worked on sites.”
Imagining a Firefighting Adventure
45:29 to 47:29
The hosts humorously speculate about how they would handle a house fire as a team.
“Well, as we are now, as we are now, the house burns down.”
Romesh's Teaching Past
47:30 to 49:44
Romesh reflects on his time as a teacher and shares an embarrassing audio message he recorded for students.
“I think that I'd be sort of the unpopular one that occasionally they would turn up to.”
Romesh's Teacher Impressions
49:45 to 52:00
Romesh plays an audio clip of his past self as a teacher, prompting a humorous discussion about his persona.
“And I'm going to be honest with you, many, if not all of you, are going to fail to meet up to the standards that I've set.”
Discussion on Joy Crooks and Show Experiences
56:00 to 56:49
Learn about the hosts' connection to Joy Crooks and their show experiences.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing, all your ears are huff-a-puff and a... Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping, impressive in it, the death bringing, it's head spinning. Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Hello and welcome to the Wolf and I podcast up inside your grill. We did a roleplay where I was 95, I've had to watch Tom do the same, but it was real. watching you watching you set that up you know before the start of the episode painful nothing you do is painful but I would say that it felt agonising felt agonising yeah I mean look we've logged on to the Zoom it's early Sunday morning and I'm watching you sort of navigate your way through a laptop for what it seemed like the first time in your life I've already done like a full kitchen clean up this morning which is like well you know like you've had people over i always find it very strange oh here we fucking go okay so who was over last night oh just no no no just friends very you know just just just friends yeah i'm just a friend yeah you are just a friend but like you don't live around the corner i could you can't by the way look i need to tread carefully here it was not my intention to to have a lot of you know people over um it sort of happened and then my point was going to be when you're not a drinker and the next day you have to clean up a party for people who've been drinking a lot.
2:01Yeah, it's a very, I guess it's a little bit like... Well, you're about to say it's a sabreing experience, I think, whether you're looking for an alternative phrase. Well, no, I was actually going to say it's more like, you know, like if someone's had sex at your house and you have to sort of clean the bedsheets.
2:16Romesh Ranganathan:It's a weird analogy, though. I'm trying to think of a time when somebody else had sex at my house. People must have had sex at your house. I don't think so. What, people just stayed over? Like, you know, Amorous in the new stages of love? Well, I'm not... Well, I know that... Josh William and his wife? We've only occasionally had people round. We had a big party last night. But I don't think anybody... You had a big party last night as well? Only for, like, comedy friends and stuff like that. Wow! King Zing is in the house! You don't think anyone's ever had sex at your house? No, I know people have vomited here.
2:55Romesh Ranganathan:They got so drunk and then they sort of admitted the next day. You know your birthday, that was a big sort of jamboree. Did you not think that anyone snuck off into the pool house and had sex? I didn't have a big jamboree on my birthday. No, no, no, you were in yours. Yeah, somebody vommed that night. But do you think anyone, no one sort of slicked off and sort of did it? Did they do? I don't, I hope not. Maybe. you don't know right yeah i guess so i guess i guess it could have happened but anyway you had some amorous horny souls there didn't you well you don't know do you didn't no i was going not to you deigned didn't deign to turn up um but uh so how was it last night oh no it's very it was chill but it was more like coming down and just cans and and people had eaten and and you know you know i think we just go we'll just do this in the morning and you you sort of get up in the morning and also uh our dishwasher is broken so i'm still a lot of it by hand which is quite i actually quite enjoy i find it's quite sort of quite if you get into the flow of it all it's quite nice yeah if you get if you get it what are you using to scrub the plates do you use uh i go with a brush or a brush like you know the the brush thing or if if it's rich i like the brush thing where you can put the um washing up liquid in the brush you've seen them they're incredible.
4:16Romesh Ranganathan:No, I've not seen those. I'm not seeing those. But then I get you say hold on, let's just talk through this a little bit, please. So are you are you rinsing the plates first? You scrape the plates into the bin? By the way, you're a psychopath. If you're not do it, you scrape the plates into the bin. Yeah. And you always rinse, give them a little bit of a rinse. So you get a lot of the food debris off, then you put the dishwasher to die without the dishwasher. My side kicks down. I'm like, he's having Sunday off or she's having sunday off it's having sunday off right you're having trouble there didn't you that was horrible yeah i did not want to that was that was horrendous what a mad way to get cancelled talking about a dishwasher but anyway go on uh so it's just me and my own like on my lonesome uh so the first steps are the same scrape into the plate rinse off and then give a scrub then yeah then i'm using a brush then you've got the surface area that yeah once you start then you've basically sometimes got to cut loose from away from the washing to do some drying because you're running out of room yeah yeah which is this is which is a moment you know you've you're really breaking it i thought i find as well i think i don't know if you talked about this but you know when you're like people go out they'll have a pint of beer they'll drink the whole pint i don't know what it is about cans i always said when people go around i always try and give them a glass so they they can finish a drink i don't think if you have cans people never finishes yeah i don't think it's i don't think it's that difficult to work out what's happening with cans what's happening is everybody's drinking the same brand most of the time so they drink they're chatting they put the can down and then five minutes later you look and there's a couple of cans next to each other and you think i've got no idea which one's mine do you think it's wrong or do you think it'll be nerdy or niki because you're quite cool at this writing someone's name on a can when you gave it to them um it's difficult basically what i know now is that you've set a bear trap for me you try to make me vulnerable by saying saying you're quite cool but this is a sneaky thing to do and then whatever i do now my leg no but genuinely right like genuinely right listen all joking aside i look at and think oh man honestly you know what for some reason i've used my fucking apple airbods and this keeps on playing that an old fucking uh version of this podcast so i'm talking to you but then i've also got me from episode one in my ears as well um it's depressing isn't it because you can see how little this has moved on um weirdly talking about actually there's part of it that you're sort of listening thinking god we were actually better back then um so that must be that must be difficult to process so listen what do you think labeling counts bad good or if you get a label maker do you want to little for all of your people that come around drinking you get a little sheet of stickers little round stickers with their initial on right okay or their initials on and then as you give them a can they stick their initials onto that can so they know that that's their can and then also the sheet is a handy reminder of how much they've had to drink wow see see this is what i mean yeah literally just that came to me just now in the moment that's a cool idea yeah i mean yeah might caught my we're both we're both sober at the moment and we're both nerds but that is i actually genuinely think that's a cool idea because then you can go sorry lee lee you're seven cans in mate yeah and i've actually found three of those it's not for the purpose of cutting people off it's just it's not yeah it's a not a handy way to keep do you think there's a more bleak thing than a sober guy who goes down and just goes oh lee had eight cans of lager phil had four oh kieran had seven as well that's do you think um i think what's bleaker than that is if you then put that together in an invoice and sort of give that to people just before they leave when you turn up at someone's house you sort of you obviously take a bottle of wine uh yeah that bottle of wine by the way incredibly difficult decision to make in very difficult because what price level or level of quality do you go out with the wine because if you go because essentially look i don't know how you feel about when you i'm not a wine connoisseur i don't drink and i don't i'm currently you're talking to about it doesn't think he's ever going to drink again right so well i'm on that journey yeah so then you're like do i buy a really cheap bottle of wine and then not cheap do you know i mean it's a cursory bottle i'm not i'm not thinking about this for ages which is you know a fault of mine i guess so you go but but if you go too big on it and you don't know how you know you've got analyze how into the wine they are it's very difficult to know what level of wine to go for do you know what i mean and also you know sometimes i've done it where we've gone to a lot of trouble and we've we've record conversations we've had with them and gone okay let's get this this is going to be great and then part of you your ego is hoping for some sort of reaction like you know when ben stiller took the plant bulb around to his in-laws in in meet the parents right you're sort of hoping for a bit of like oh my god usually what happens is if if you go in you be you be you come in with a bottle of wine you and lisa uh i be me it's i guess it's this this podcast is an I'm Kiefer.
9:49Romesh Ranganathan:I'm Kiefer. This podcast is an ongoing... Every now and again, you'll say to me, Rom, you should do more acting. And then whenever we're doing a role play, you are Kiefer or something, a fucking Jamaican guy who's lived in London for a few years before moving to Columbia for a bit on a gap year. Now he's come... You've got all of this going on. And then my character, my assigned character, is me. No, no, but in this specific place, you're turning up, or you could be Lisa. I'll stick with me, thank you. Okay, right. You and Lisa turn up. I'm Kiefer St. Clair, right? I'm basically, my kid is in Theo's college.
10:24Like, this is like, you know, so you're turning up. I've invited loads of people around. I'm doing okay for myself. I might be getting divorced. I'm not sure. Okay, you walk in. Yo, hey, dude. Good to see you, man. How are you?
10:37Romesh Ranganathan:Can I just pause it? Can I just pause it for a second? I find it is, just from what Kiefer's done so far, I find it highly unrealistic that I would be coming to this guy's house. No, but Theo really wants to go. Okay, fine. Theo likes his daughter, actually. Theo likes his daughter. Okay, fine, fine, fine. All right, okay. Emily St. Clair. So my remit here is to be friendly, but also to not embarrass Theo because I could undermine her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, fine. Okay, ready? Let's go again. Okay, and action. Hey, dude, how you doing? Kiefer, Kiefer St. Clair.
11:14hi it's uh hi i'm rom this is lisa oh for sure man you're uh for you's dad yes i'm theo's dad
11:24Romesh Ranganathan:you you're emily's dad aren't you yeah yeah yeah that's my kid that emily yeah she's a great dancer bro have you seen her move no i haven't watched your dancer your daughter move uh i've not met her actually just but theo said some told us a lot about her so he was a good kid man Thank you, thank you. You should be proud, bro. Yeah, no, thank you. And who's this honey bear? Who's this honey bear you're with? The honey bear is my wife, Lisa. Then bring it in, Lisa. Give me a kiss, girl. Oh, yeah, good to see you. Kiefer, where is it you're from? Because we don't normally do tongues. Certainly not at the doorstep.
12:08Romesh Ranganathan:Anyway, we... I'm sorry, I should probably explain where I'm from. I'm half French and I'm half Celtic. You're half French.
12:19You're half French and you're half Celtic. Oh, man, it's good to see you. I hear so much about you. Emily's always talking about how cool Theo is and that he emulates his dad
12:27Romesh Ranganathan:and what a cool dude his dad is. Yeah, that's nice to hear. I wish you'd say some of that to me. She said you could be funny. You do jokes for a living, right? Tell me a joke. Oh, um, oh God. Well, I don't really, to be honest, I don't really do jokes. It's just sort of, uh, You know what's no joke? At the moment, me and my wife are going through a lot of shit. So you should probably know that before you enter our abode. Don't let on I told you, don't let, but I kissed her sister at Christmas. Don't say anything. What's happened to your accent? Is that of interest? When I'm telling secrets, I changed my voice a little bit.
13:06Shit.
13:07Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. All right. Do you feel that's a bit of a tell? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Anyway, dude, come here, dude. Okay. So this is not a secret now, is it? I could tell because you flip back. Yeah. So anyway, make yourself at home. If you fancy a dance, have a dance. If you fancy just chilling in the garden, having some hot dogs or burgers, do that, bro. My abode is your abode. Welcome to the Valley of Souls. We actually brought you a bottle of wine, didn't we, Lisa? Oh, just stick it on the side over there. Thank you. Cheers. Oh, it's actually... Oh, man, I haven't got to... Hey, hello, what's your name?
13:42Hi, I'm Phil. Phil Bundkin. I'm Paul's dad. Hey, Paul, good to meet you, dude. And who's this honey bear? Oh, this is Lucy, my wife. She's a hot mama. Oh, I should probably tell you, by the way, if you notice a cold atmosphere in here I'm having some trouble with my wife Kiefer sorry to
14:08Romesh Ranganathan:interrupt could I have a quick word please yeah do you know Paul no I don't hey Paul how's it going you alright good I like your stuff you're very funny thank you thanks Paul thank you well yeah you are exactly my demographic actually for people that are into my stuff so that's that's the big surprise What's your secret? Kiefer, can I have a quick word, please? Hit me, baby, one more time. Okay, first of all, first thing is, well, it's three things, actually. Do you mind if I discuss three things with you just very quickly? Yeah, bro. One, I couldn't help noticing you described Paul's wife as a hot mama.
14:49Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. You sort of, you didn't really, you weren't that effusive about Lisa, so I just wanted to sort of check in on that. Bro, for sure, for real. but you can't compare Claire and Lisa. How do you mean? Well, Claire is... and Lisa is... Oh, yeah. I don't know what either of those things mean. The script of sounds, bro. That's how I work. I don't work in words, I work in sounds. You've used a lot of words, actually. So that doesn't feel totally accurate. The second thing is, do you ever do role plays? Just out of interest. Yeah, for sure. Me and my wife do them all the time. Yeah, OK, because we have a thing with the role play where it has to involve the other person you're doing the role play with.
15:37Romesh Ranganathan:You don't suddenly create a whole other cast and then start sort of interacting with yourself. Oh, right, cool, OK. So, Paul, see you later, alligator. Are you telling a secret now? No, Paul, see you later, alligator. Rom's chewing my old melons off. Your melons off? So you said there was three things. What's the third thing? Yeah, the third thing is actually that... Come here, bring it in. Well, actually, the wine... Theo mentioned that Emily said you're really into South African wines. And so we actually... We actually... It's actually a very nice South African wine we selected, especially for us.
16:14Romesh Ranganathan:Hey, do, do, do, do. It's not a big thing. Hey, listen to me. Listen to me. You seem like you're nervous. I'm not nervous. Why don't you take your T-shirt off and just get involved in the madness? Yeah, OK. Listen, I think Honey Bear and I are going to... Fuck, what's that, Lisa? The house is on fire. Oh, God. We need to go. You know that I'm a registered fire engine driver in seven different countries. OK. Is this one of those countries? No. No, OK. Well, that's worked out pretty well. So we're going to head off then. Oh, leave the wine now, huh? We did leave the wine. You just said put it over there, and you're quite dismissive about it, despite the fact we went into quite a lot of effort.
16:57Romesh Ranganathan:Hey, we'll tell Emily that Theo's dad's a cold dude. Brilliant, thank you. That would really help me out and him out. So thank you so much, Kiefer. Take care. See you, man. See you later, Paul. It's Romesh and Lisa. Paul, see you later, man. Take care. See you. Okay. See, that's what happens, basically, is when you turn up with any sort of bottle of wine, someone just puts it on the table. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think that could have been explaining the one sentence, but it doesn't matter.
17:43Romesh Ranganathan:I'm quite nervous today because I'm not drinking and going to meet some friends to watch Arsenal Man City. Big game. Yeah. And I'm nervous about, um it's the first time actually i i've not this is so boring i've not drunk for two months now and and and i'm pretty sure i'm off i'm off i'm off the ting and it's been amazing it's been amazing like really good but it's the first time going out with these guys without having you know without drinking so you know have you been out in this kind of scenario with them before uh not to watch the football no so oh yeah i mean i sent a preliminary text explaining that i'm not going to be drinking what were they like in uh from the text what did what was there there's no there's been no reply you're joking no but i mean it is still not nine o 'clock yet so you know you text them what time did you text them i don't uh this morning oh my god what what you didn't wake up and text them at what yeah because you were up at seven you text me at seven seven thirty yeah bro i fucking adore you you know but you know that is your voice that's the voice of all voices coming across just going um uh uh guys uh romsky here just to shine that i'm not drinking today drinking is a no-go for me if it's at seven o 'clock because if it's at 10 it's like hey guys rom here yo looking forward to today um but i'm not drinking it's cool but 7 a.m it means that they're going he's not slept last night he's been worried about this well then i'm a parent do you know you're normally sort of up early aren't you yeah you're not yeah you're early making breakfast cleaning the kitchen from the night before you're not up early going i need to text these guys now well no it's like it's a very breezy text go on hit me with the text what did it say let me just see what i said still no reply morning guys see you later i'm not drinking at the moment so head soap you might not find me interesting very excited to see and touch you both no i mean it's actually cool it's actually okay i mean the see and touch you both you're compensating for the fact that you're going up yeah here's some big news but i'm going to sort desensitize it with a sort of joke well i don't want to turn up there and then have to refuse drinks at the in the moment oh no no i get that i get that i've been there but i think when you turn up at your show are you going to sort of go oh i'm not drinking but um and start touching them no i don't think so that's not the plan but let's see what happens you know i mean let's see what the let's see what the alcohol free Are these sort of newish friends or are they sort of like cold stone sort of?
20:18Three, four years. Three, four years. All right. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
20:22Romesh Ranganathan:So you've had some nights out, but they've probably been boozy. Well, we've had some nights out, but they're both like musicians. So they're like, you know, they get on it. Right. And I've got on it with them, but not, you know, I'm very much outpaced by them. You know, so we'll see. I'm sure it'll be fine. But you think the text was a mistake? I'll have text later. I'll have a text just before the game, just before you get in there. Just before I get there? Well, you could delete it. You could delete it. Well, then it says deleted this message, doesn't it? I mean, that's the problem, because WhatsApp's a fucking grass.
20:53Yeah, WhatsApp and all of them are... Yeah, even, what's it called? A piece of shit now, isn't it?
20:59Romesh Ranganathan:What's that? Text, normal text. Yeah, why do we text each other more than we WhatsApp, by the way? I WhatsApp everybody else apart from you. What is it with you and texting? I'm old school, man. Yeah, but you all say WhatsApp. Yeah, because I've got a text button. I've got a text bundle, and I feel like I've got a text bundle, unlimited text. I feel like I should use some of the unlimited text. Otherwise, it's just... Okay, but are you WhatsAppping other people? Are you texting them? You and Catherine are my two text friends. Well, actually, that's quite... I feel quite honoured, actually. Yeah, no, you and Catherine, I keep on the text.
21:31Romesh Ranganathan:So both people you're having regular sex with, you keep that on text? One of you.
21:41Romesh Ranganathan:so anyway I shouldn't have text but I can't delete it now that's it I just have to accept that's what the situation is what are you going to drink by the way are you drinking mocktails an alcoholic beer non-alcoholic beer but I find non-alcoholic beer quite bloaty you know I mean beer is quite bloaty but non-alcoholic beer is bloatier that's what I was fine with the non-alcoholic stuff but then you don't want to have Diet Coke do you because it's sweet how much sweet drink can you have you know that's a tricky one you know You know what I've been drinking? Lime and soda, baby. Yeah, it's a good choice.
22:09Romesh Ranganathan:Water is actually good, but it feels a bit weird to be drinking water when other people... You know, it's not... Yeah, yeah. You want something... The truth is, you want something that looks like what everyone else is drinking. I've got a similar thing to this. I'm going to Aces on Saturday. But people know that I don't drink, but I'm going to find that a hard one not to drink at. Because it's very boozy. So you will drink... That means you're going to drink, doesn't it? I don't know. No, I won't. No, I've quite... But I will... like I've been to see them a number of times back in the day. And it's very sort of like, I always think like you're going into something where it's like that sort of shade of yesteryear.
22:46Yeah. It's a bit like a stand by me or some shit. You're walking down memory lane.
22:50Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. The journey. And it's part of that big journey is like an ice cold beer when you're in a plastic cup. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also, I'm also quite anxious, Tom, because my, my, my chat show thing that I'm doing is coming out next week. Yeah. uh it will already be it now and the other thing that's come out this week is can't knock the hustle my documentary series wow two shows coming out a week yeah i'm very nervous tom about it right how come well just because you i don't know you know it's a very difficult part of the job isn't it stuff coming out yeah yeah how's the chat show so how's the church work is it an old school chat show or is it just like you and a guest well it's just me and a guest i'd love you to come on but your agent's not getting back to me well my agent is flo so well these things you get flo likes flo likes to sort of like play like this game like she's very very very clever with that yeah well you know i text you know you can text me you can text me and ask me and i'll just go yeah fuck me if there's one person i adore talking to in the world it's you so if i get you on the chat show how different will you be because you know you have this accusation what tom do you want what does that mean what are the options well well no because if i'm coming into it and i'm like gonna be fun it's a fun i don't know what the chat show is i have to watch it if it's like an earnest chat of like it's fun and high energy depends and i completely take a nosedive by going yo bro i need to hit you like this is the this is the closest version of me here this is me right this is full transparency on wool for now is the yeah is it okay yeah so i mean there's an There's an argument there's no point in you coming on, is there?
24:31No, but if I come on and it's more like, say, for example, Davina's, that was a deeper chat. Yeah, we do that on here.
24:39Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, we do it a little bit, but not loads. More often than not, you're sort of doing an impression of me. But anyway, go on. So Davina's one's a bit more. Yeah, so if you hit me up with what it is, I'll come. Let's do a little sample now, OK? So I'm going to introduce it, all right. uh so welcome to the romesh rang nathan show with me today i have got uh a multi-hyphenate uh actor stand-up uh writer uh one of the country's greatest uh comic talents a bafta winner of course um i am talking about and also uh one half of the my podcast will for now absolutely honoured to have this man on it is Tom Davis hello Tom, thank you so much for coming on what an introduction, what a crazy introduction hearing it from your sweet lips felt good bro, how is it going generally Tom, how are you, good?
25:37Romesh Ranganathan:good man, good, yeah getting stuff done, living the life taking each step of the journey as slow as I can but sometimes you've got to quicken up that step just to get a little bit faster, but yeah, living the life bro hmm we actually got you a we actually get every guest a present so we've got you a gift yeah yeah so it's um we got you a west ham beanie wow um where the fuck am i ever gonna wear this where just sort of out out and about and stuff what's the other what have you got the other guests have been on here uh tim minchin we had and we got him a stylophone he got a stylo phone and I get a West Ham beanie well the gift is supposed to be it's supposed to be tied to you know what the guest is into, you're into West Ham and you like wearing a hat so it sort of felt like a no brainer yeah but West Ham I feel like a guy who's given up on an 8 year old boy in a West Ham beanie right, ok well I mean those things are both things that I've read in reviews about you so if anything
26:49okay thank you anyway that's a really sweet do you mind me saying i know it's very early on in the chat but do you mind me saying that um i feel like you've got slightly different energy to what
26:58Romesh Ranganathan:i mean this is this is not how you are on the wall listen man when i come on to these one-on-ones and it's an interview uh i like to sort of i like to i like to deconstruct my soul and let you have a little piece of it yeah okay um i've got to say actually you remind me of uh i know called kefir but listen let's do it i'll come and i'll bring an energy okay so tom what are you up to what are you up to what are you up to generally at the moment uh what am i up to at the moment um well i have a podcast with my best friend in the whole world who's sitting opposite me right now um adore you yeah also just doing some other projects i can't really talk about because it's secret yeah so you've got this uh you you is it like you've a couple of film filming bits that you can't chat about yeah a little bit of filming um also some scripted right stuff uh right it and uh so when you write this stuff do you
27:59so are you proud of what you've righted yeah man i've been righted uh writing for quite a long time now I've write quite a lot of different stuff you're such
28:10Romesh Ranganathan:a multi talented guy what do you think is your main thing are you mainly a stand up are you mainly an actor where do you position yourself are you mainly a podcaster where is my main thing I guess it's just being a human being bro that's the thing I do with being the most Ben do you mind passing me the bucket please yeah I just need to I just need to spend a couple of minutes chundering if that's okay before we carry on
28:44so I'll bring that sort of energy if you want or I could do something different it's up to you
28:51Romesh Ranganathan:I'm going to speak to Flo and definitely get you on but anyway I was looking up online because also obviously Can't Knock the Hustles coming out which is a very personal by the way it looks amazing thanks but it's it's it's the documentary series where we like to look into the stand-up i sort of explore the stand-up show so the whole idea is you you did this amazing stand-up show uh it's gonna be amazing but yeah that is that's part of the series and then so in the in the documentary series we take bits of the stand-up and bits of the things that i asserted and then explore them see if they were true that's that that's the that's the that's the idea of it.
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29:29Romesh Ranganathan:Listen to this, though. So I looked up what to do when you're nervous about your work. Right? Yeah. Where did you look this up? I looked up online. Right? Okay. Listen to this. This is unbelievable. Okay. Practice not being attached to the outcome. You can't control how others will react. The show is now its own entity. Your role was in creating it. Now your role is to let it go. Try to shift your focus from what will they think of my show to I did my best work and I'm proud of what i created i mean how deep is that bro it's really deep i the only thing i sort of have take umbrage with if to be honest with you it's not umbrage but you know i'm not proud you're not proud of what it is well no it's like it's the best thing you can do at the time but do you know like one of the things that i find with things like this is as soon as you've done it it starts to decay in your head right so you've got an alex ferguson mentality well that's what you've got no but the stand-up show like for example i loved the stand-up show when i was doing it do i now think it's the best show i could ever do no because i think that the next show i do is going to be the best show i ever do do you know what i mean so it's it's tricky but that's the alex ferguson mentality it's like you speak it's like you come from the class of 92.
30:37it's like you know beckham gigs neville neville but skulls yeah okay okay okay i get it but the
30:43Romesh Ranganathan:the point is you know it's very exciting and anxiety inducing you know oh you must have had this when underdog dropped i haven't yeah when i and i watched when underdog plopped onto the world when you squatted over Sky Max and passed that out. I thought very much that. I still can't even watch it back. And if I watch it back, it's full of holes. Yeah. And everything, yeah. Lisa and I sat and watched it recently. God, that's not, yeah. So you are amongst the seven people who've watched it on Sky. We loved it. We loved it. Well, I've got to say, We'd obviously already seen it before because we came to watch it in Reading when you fucking might be off.
31:25I would say that it's, yeah. But I think naturally you're always going to, like anything, like I think when I did King Gary, I thought, oh, this is, you know, I was very proud of it, still proud of it, but I don't watch it and go, oh, that's, you know, or murdering successful. You want to make things that are better and better and keep hopefully growing and doing different things. So I think you should, and I think every tool you've done got better and better and better. I think, I mean, I've spoken about this to a number of people.
31:54Romesh Ranganathan:You sort of have to say, you have to say that. No, but I'd tell you if I thought there was another one that you'd done that was better than your last one. But I think you've got, also I think you've got so much more earnest, which is what I've been trying to do in my work in progresses. I actually used you as a reference the other day. Did you? Yeah. As a reference to what, a nerdy little piece of shit that you just sort of think is embarrassing. No, actually, I was talking to Flo and I was saying about how I'm just trying to be a little bit more earnest a bit more open with my stand up and try to actually push conversation and i used you and another comic as the two people i actually admired the most on the circuit at the moment you and bridges it's very sweet of you um i uh did the photo shoot for the new tour the other day i've heard it was amazing i've heard who told you that flo two things happen in the photo shoots i'm not i'd love to hear but first of all um i had to um you know i always have to preface with the photographer.
32:48Romesh Ranganathan:I hate this, right? You know, and that's a very negative thing for them to hear. But I'm not I'm not I'm just saying to them, look, I find it difficult. You know, I mean, it's like, anyway, I brought a load of clothes because we want to have some options, right? One of the clothes, one of the clothes, one of the jackets. Oh, my God. Well, okay. Yeah. By the way, can you see the difference between me and you? What's that? I said righted you you made a whole bit out of it. You said one of the clothes and I just let it be because I know you're anxious about the thing you're about to tell me. One of us knows how to generate content and the other one doesn't is what I'm taking from that.
33:22Romesh Ranganathan:But one of the jackets that I took along with me had like a... Had a stain on it? Not a stain. It was like a snail trail across the back of it. It was horrible. You know what also looks like a snail trail? Yes. this comment was made on the day yeah it looks like somebody had jizzed up my back that's what it looked like oh jeez and I pulled all the jackets out and Kit who was on hair and makeup also had offered to bring a steamer to help me with anything that had creases it was very sweet of her oh you don't want a steamed semen no I mean the smell for the second half of the photo shoot was oh it's grim him no but i don't know i still don't know what it was i don't know how it got there i don't know why it was there you know it's like you know i don't mind a stain where you've been eating something and you drop food onto yourself and you go okay fine that's a fuck up but you know what can you do all joking is probably a silkworm that's got into your wardrobe maybe um he wouldn't have found any silk though no but yeah but he'd be looking he doesn't know what he's going to find any other explorer yeah you can't knock a silkworm for going into your No, I'm not knocking the silkworm.
34:37I'm not knocking the silkworm. I'm just saying, yeah, but if I'm a silkworm and I'm bowling about Crawley, and I see you and Lisa, I want to go, fucking hell, they're going to have a bit of silk in there.
34:44Romesh Ranganathan:I don't want to be disparaging about the town, but I would say silkworms coming to Crawley. I would say that, I would describe that as an error of judgment. If anything, it's the silkworm who's thinking outside the box. Yeah, way outside the box. All the other silkworms are turning around going, where are you headed, Crawley? I mean, it's taken fucking ages to get there. Yeah, thinking outside the box. The box has got all the silk in, and you've gone very much outside it. He's probably like a third generation silkworm who started the journey from London to Crawley. And he's had to turn around to his, every generation they pass, he turns around to his kid and turns around and says, look, this Operation Crawley can't, you must get there.
35:25Yeah, okay.
35:37Romesh Ranganathan:would you like to do some emails yeah let's do it okay so this first one is uh quite heavy so i'm just warning you so you know i know you like to sometimes do the emails i don't want to let people be on the curtain but you like to just look at your phone and not really pay full attention but for this one okay i'm going to close my eyes i'll close my eyes on this okay and i'm going to read it at a decent pace because you know i have been accused on i haven't actually recently been accused of reading them too quickly but anyway hello wolf and owl this is from the trusting triceratops i started listening in july and i'm nearly caught up i love it especially the silences where you both laugh and i think i've lost signal until i hear the chuckles always makes me smile um i'd love some advice a year ago my wife ended our marriage she still loved me but my alcoholism dishonesty around money and struggles after we had a miscarriage meant she had to walk away for her own good the last year has been the hardest of my life but with therapy, AA, and my job in the prison service, I've managed to get sober and find purpose.
36:33Romesh Ranganathan:Recently, I've started to see someone who I work with and she's making me really happy. The issue is I avoid posting photos of going public because I don't want to hurt my ex. At the same time, I don't want to upset my current partner by hiding her. Should I just live my life and let my ex deal with it if she finds out, or should I let her know so it's not a shock? Love the trusting triceratops. So there you go, Tom. There's the email. um well i am yeah um i would say that um it's a difficult one because you don't know where your ex is at on i mean unless you have a sort of open conversation in a sense and that where she's uh whether she's sort of just getting on with her life so to speak more and and you're um you know and she's moved on and you can't go coming back with this sort of thing might be quite triggering for her or is it a fact that you um that you basically turn around and and you know you think doing the decent thing and doing you know if i suppose if she supported you for quite a lot of the sort of lower points of your journey uh and you feel that it's a better thing i think there's times in my life if i'm going to be quite open that i wish i'd had more conversations and it's too late to have now i think like you know we're we're sort of making a bit of light of um of you know giving up drinking and whatever but i was in quite a similar situation to yourself in a number of ways um but you know leading up to having grace and and and i've been like quite open about that but i think you know the situation me and kathleen were in and the alcohol was was playing quite a sort of you know a very negative part of my life and now when i look back i realize how negative alcohol been throughout my whole life and and actually quite often i think there's people that uh you know along your journey that i wish i had probably you know once i got sober or uh maybe it is too late now just to sort of almost just say that you know i think you're being a helmet or just not being the best version of yourself and i just realized at times alcohol was that sort of thing but and yeah in some places i guess what maybe it's cowardly that haven't done but I think every situation like that, you have to odds it up and just see, is it going to be triggering for her for you to turn around and say, look, I'm getting on with her, I'm moving forward.
38:53I don't know where she's at or your last conversation. But I do think the one thing I would say is having spoken, and I've got friends in, I don't know about Romney, I can't speak, but I don't share probably as much of pictures of me. I'll do it on stories, but I don't, because kathy doesn't feel comfortable with me sharing pictures but you know um i do know people and friends of ours who don't share and that can then create a bit of animosity me and katherine have discussed that and talked about that at great length but i think uh yeah i think you i think i think you need to talk to your present partner and explain to her and i think it's probably worth having a conversation with your ex and just saying that and also just letting her know you've moved on because you know i don't like i say it's hard to know but whether she's harboring harboring for trying again or she's moved on and her knowing you've moved on will let her to almost release something so i always think like when it comes to things like this being honest and being as true as you can is the way forward and like i say yeah some of my biggest regrets in life and not doing that so um yeah yeah be the best version yourself go forth my friend and do what you do uh thank you so much for your email trusting
40:00Romesh Ranganathan:triceratops uh first of all congratulations on um cleaning yourself up and allowing yourself to move forward uh it's it's a great thing um it's the truth is it's very difficult to answer your email without the full set of information i'm not saying you've done anything wrong at all but um i don't know we don't know how your ex is feeling about things you know i mean so to speculate the truth is is that you know better than we do as to whether you should do this or because from your ex-wife's perspective, she was in love with you, but it was very difficult to conduct that relationship because of what you were doing and because of your behaviour.
40:42Romesh Ranganathan:And so then it might be difficult for her if you've moved on with someone else and somebody else is sort of getting a different version of you. And that might be tricky because if she was with that version of you, your marriage might still be intact. So it's a tricky one. uh the honest answer is is that you uh are the one that knows the best the the other issue is about posting photos and going public like is that even if you do decide to share that with your ex is that the way to share it do you mean like sort of sticking it on socials or whatever um i think that you know i feel like sometimes we are in a we've got caught up in thinking that's the way to to deliver information to people and i i think that in some instances that can be a mistake that that is like a really public way of doing it is there an another alternative whereby you you get in touch and um you're able to sort of explain that to her without it being a public thing so uh look it's totally up to you man but good luck with it and i just want to say congratulations on on on getting through what you're getting through it can i just share i've had a reply to my text go hit me bro don't worry at all don't care if you're on heroin kool-aid or oj it would just be great to see you isn't that lovely that's good it also shows that you have better friends than some of mine i'm just going to try and source some heroin i think and really put that to the test because that's you know that's the ultimate isn't it yeah uh okay hello to the wolf owl swan cat and flamingo uh please leave me anonymous i'm a huge fan of the pod a day one listener and i've never missed an episode i'm a big fan of legend i'm a big fan of king gary and misadventures of romesh rang and athan can't wait to see you on the 29th in birmingham with what uh but they don't want this read out in the thing so that's why i'm reading this right so with a similar somewhat similar background to romesh i was once upon a time a teacher but left this behind and were now fortunate enough to work as a firefighter holy shit wow legend couldn't be happy with my chosen career my question to you both is this did you ever consider working an entirely different career to those that you found yourselves in did you have childhood aspirations to be astronauts or fighter pilots and how do you think that would have turned out if those dreams had become reality naturally it would have been a shame to leave the world bereft of your comedic talents but it's interesting to wonder wouldn't you agree bonus question firefighters usually deploy as a team of two how do you think youtube would work as a team to both put our house we can't answer this question uh all the best to you lovely people who brighten my every week uh thank you so much for your question uh legend of the game the absolute legend of the game hey educating minds to saving lives this guy's got it yeah um oh what's going on are you okay oh sorry what's happened there let me just explain because sometimes listeners don't know what's what's happening uh tom was really happy with what he said i have to deal with this quite regularly actually so i'm just going to let you into what happened there was an awkward pause there and the reason there's an awkward pause is tom said something that he thought was amazing and he'd allowed a pause to for my reaction and that reaction never came so that reaction was you sitting back and getting on your phone you absolute bozo um right okay okay my guy my g uh firstly um amazing work secondly uh so your first question i all over i had very little aspirations i've talked about this quite openly um in life i didn't really um i didn't think i'd ever like i sort of always knew that i'd probably end up you know working on a building site that was a thing that i sort of always wanted to do and And by the way, aspirationally, I'd never really thought about being, you know, like an astronaut or sports person or anything like that.
44:41I'd sort of, well, I'm with quite, yeah, I've been around people who worked on sites. I always sort of quite liked the idea. But actually, the biggest thing I've wanted to be as a kid was a bin man. I used to really love the idea of, yeah, working on the dust, being a part of a gang, getting up every morning, um uh same group of guys little gang that you'd go out and have a bit of a laugh with and and you know you'd be done by one o 'clock and you'd be in the pub and i sort of applied a couple of times to do it and didn't get anywhere but yeah that was the thing so that's the first question that was uh and then to the second one i think me and romewish actually i you know what what we should put this to the test and like we should go and try and do you know like do the training firefighter
45:22Romesh Ranganathan:days to see how we get on rescuing someone well we don't have the requisite fitness do we well Yeah, but they just asked us as we are now. Well, as we are now, as we are now, the house burns down. Yeah. No, did he say saving someone from a house fire? Well, let me have a look. How do you think you two put out a house fire together is the exact wording of the question. But I think we'd be good. I don't think we would, Tom. I'd control the hose and you'd probably turn it on and then we'd basically just fucking, you know. I don't think it's as easy as just... First, we've got to ascertain what's going on in there.
46:00Romesh Ranganathan:Do you know what I mean? So there's a bit of, like, analysis. And then, I mean, I don't know. I'm speaking as a pure ignorant. You'd probably be quite good at that analysis side. I don't... You've got to be... I'd run down, I'd smash the door down with an axe, and then you'd look in and go, fucking hell, what's going on here? I honestly think what would happen is another team would turn up and go, the house is burning down, we've got another two casualties. i think we've got a little bit of expertise from our friend here we've got two dead first responders
46:32do you not think you've got it in the mix by the way i met some firemen the other day absolute legends but one of them had the the greatest mustache i've ever seen in my life yours is beautiful this guy's it was absolutely it was like a work of art yeah he had completely clean shaved around it yeah it just stood out beautifully he had a bit of a neck tattoo i've got to say i was i was in katherine by the way he they pulled over because grace was waving at the fire truck and katherine lost her mind she was very very young she sat in the fire truck with grace yeah i didn't know if they were both good all going to drive off together they have no way to an emergency no no no they'd just come back for one so they sort of smell sort of you know like musty and manly.
47:15Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. Big shout out to all the firefighters out there. You do an incredible job. Shout out firefighters. Honestly. I don't even know what that's like. Doing the work. To do something like that, that's your job every day. I can't even believe it. How do you think you'd get on in the firehouse with the banter? Because you know that they spend a few days together. Bad. Really? Really bad, yeah. I think that I'd be sort of the unpopular one that occasionally they would turn up to. No way. They'd sort of leave me behind. I think that's probably... No, you'd probably have a cool hit there like brains or something like that yeah or um uh what would what might it then be like um thinky thinky yeah useless um better off without you um no no look you're being harsh on you fire but you've done marathon training you've done marathon training yeah and what do they say so romesh listen you've done marathon training we're gonna take the fire engine what we'd love you to do is just run over there we'll see you in six and a half hours
48:15that's what would happen i think you i think you'd get on better than you think you you've got that acid tongue when you need it baby yeah anyway here's with the questions firstly what did you
48:22Romesh Ranganathan:want to be rom what was the thing oh yeah so um i well i i think not i wouldn't would have wanted to be i mean actually tom you've sort of you did a day on the on the dust didn't you yeah yeah yeah um i would i would have just been a teacher i think there's a there's a there's a very there's another world very close to this one where I started doing you know because I was I was happy to be a teacher and I started doing stand-up and then the stand-up took somebody said to me you should think about doing this for a job but at that point I was only intent intending on doing it as a hobby so I wasn't ever going to move into comedy so there's another world in which I'd just be head of sixth form somewhere sort of you know I'd be like Mr Gilbert is it Mr Gilbert from in between us?
49:06Romesh Ranganathan:No, I bet you have more empathy than him. I loved being head of six form, actually. I loved being a teacher. Have you ever get nits when you're a teacher? No. No. I did have, I did have like kids that didn't like me, though. You know, a lot of people sort of assume that I was super popular at school, which is very sweet. You know, people go to me, because you're a comedian and your kids must have loved me. That's not true. Some kids fucking hated, like hated me. One kid had like a beef with me I bet you weren't when I was. years bad breath and like a bad breath and sort of smell they're the worst ones can i can i actually somebody sent me a video of when i was a teacher giving a good luck message to the students can i just play you the audio of this because it's yeah it's absolutely humiliating oh this is generally could be this could make my weekend look i don't know if you're going to hear sometimes playing audio in doesn't work but let's in the area I just wanted to say to you a lot of you spent your time can you hear that?
50:08Romesh Ranganathan:I'm Mr. Ang Nathan you already know that everybody knows me in Hayeswick and I'm also a local celebrity as you know in the area I just wanted to say to you a lot of you spent your time at Hayeswick looking up to me sort of a role model not only sort of academically but just the way that I carry myself the way that I present myself in a fashion way, how fun I am, just kind of good looks. And I'm going to be honest with you, many, if not all of you, are going to fail to meet up to the standards that I've set. But there's nothing wrong with aiming for perfection, seeing if you can really come up to maybe even 10, 15 % of what I've achieved in my life.
50:52Romesh Ranganathan:And I promise you, if you keep working at it, you keep striving, keep really pushing and pushing, maybe, just maybe, I'll recognise you in a few years' time and say hello to you in public. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Can I say, number one, how fucking close is my impression of you? That is fucking literally your voice. That is the voice. That's insane. If anything, you're more nerdy on that than... Oh, God. So you sent that video to all the kids? I didn't send that video. so they went round as they're about to leave and asked all the teachers and heads of year to do a message and that was my message bad isn't it how many versions of that did you was that just one that you did did you do it in one take yeah of course I did I'm a fucking professional mate you know what I think we should release that on the extra content for the podcast how embarrassing do you think that is well yeah but you're you're trying to be cool i think that's i think it's quite sweet by the way i think yeah you're clearly having a bit of banter and you're sort of you know there's a cool guy in there but you also are the cool teacher sort of like oh my god mr ranganathan smells of cool water okay do you want to do you want a bigger laugh oh yes please okay i'm going to show you what i look like oh so this is a video thing right so i'm now i'm now going to show you what i look like
52:42Oh my god Oh my god You know the sad thing is There's some boys who probably really looked up to you and thought that's what I want to be when I'm old
52:58wow you seriously like we both have done some work but my god the glow up on you is unbelievable I mean saying that yeah I'm very yeah but Christ bro look at it man let me see again it doesn't even look like you and you were the cool teacher I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't the cool teacher I don't know what... What I love is that is you being very self... you know, sort of derogatory, right? Yeah. But no kid is going to get self-derogatory humour. And not many adults get it. So when the kids are showing that, they're going to go, oh, wow, look, that's... This is Mr. Ranganathans. It's like, who does he fucking think he is?
53:44Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, God, I know. They just thought... I must have thought I was something fucking special. Oh, God, what a prick. Yeah. Right, Tom, thankfully that brings us to the end of this episode of The Wolf for now. So please, could you do us the honor of taking us out? Yo, friends, treasures. What are treasures? So boxy you dig up on an island. A fallen vessel at the bottom of an ocean full of trinkets. Nay, friend, treasure can be anything. The things that we treasure most are sometimes the things that we let us pass. A look from stranger to a stranger. A look of recognition. Nice day, attraction. A laughter of a charred as a swing flies high.
54:39Or a roundabout, doesn't want final loop. A race car driver on his last race. Just taking that moment as he flies past the finish line. Not first, not second, not third, but seventh. still a moment friends still a moment to treasure that's the thing about life is it passes us by so quickly sometimes we can forget those moments sometimes we can forget to take the moment put it into our treasure box of memories one day we'll look back at and go hey i remember that it's weird this week i spent some time with someone and as i talked about a story from her past they didn't remember it. See it meant a lot to me, I treasured it but for them it was just the passing of the sands of time.
55:27Our treasures are always going to be different. Sometimes you'll hold something dearer than someone else but always remember this, it's not about other people, it's about you. It's about you finding little moments in your life where you can find a smile. nay open a box see the gold memory light up your face and know the treasures aren't always found
55:52Romesh Ranganathan:sometimes they're just hidden away really nice tom really nice thank you um thank you uh joy crooks is what i knew i'm called juniper and i absolutely love her and uh that is actually but you make Joy Crooks yeah do you know her well I don't know well I did Buzzcocks with her a couple of years ago so JT could you play us out with First Last Dance please it's one of the songs off Gina Price thank you so much for listening to the wall for now if you if you are coming to the Belfast show please do send emails if you're coming to any of the shows please send emails the Belfast show would have been done by the time this is out oh fuck anyway thanks thanks for coming out let's just do it thanks for coming out to the Belfast show and thank you for all the wolf whistles Rob Ash looks so so fine in his schoolgirl outfit yeah that was a hell of a show man wild but if you're coming to any other shows do email in the Belfast show was special wasn't it it was crazy it was special but you know what like I just said let's find some more treasures baby yeah I believe they're trying to put the roof back onto the theatre anyway take care guys love you very much bye
57:35First, last dance with you. With you, with you, with you.
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