S4 Ep 41: Auditions & Am I The A**hole

15 Oct 2025 · 1 h 4 min

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Podcast Notes: Wolf & Owl with Romesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis

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S4 Ep 41: Auditions & Am I The A**hole Episode Summary In this episode, Tom Davis (The Wolf) and Romesh Ranganathan (The Owl) engage in a free-form discussion that touches on a variety of topics including personal anecdotes, listener dilemmas, and plans for upcoming events. They play a game of "Am I The A**hole?" to address listener dilemmas, with discussions that delve into the complexities of relationships, expectations, and individuality.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Technical Issues and Laptop Talk
  2. Romesh struggles with technical issues concerning his laptop, which he expresses emotional attachment to, despite its deteriorating performance.
  3. Discussion about the significance of inanimate objects and the creative works associated with them.
  1. Manifestation and Positive Thinking
  2. Tom shares his thoughts on the concept of manifesting roles in acting, referencing opportunities in big films.
  3. The duo discusses how positivity can influence outcomes and the importance of learning to accept both success and failure as equally valid experiences.
  1. Audition Experiences
  2. Tom recounts a recent audition scenario where he was compared to larger, more established actors.
  3. They discuss the nature of the entertainment industry and the impact of self-doubt on actors' mental health.
  1. Live Shows and Audience Engagement
  2. Reflection on recent performances at Hackney Empire, including a mention of a difficult audience member and how it affects the overall experience.
  3. Mention of an upcoming show in Dublin and their excitement for the collaboration with Aisling Bea.
  1. Listener Emails and "Am I The Ahole?" Segment**
  2. Dilemma 1: A woman plans her wedding but is pressured to postpone it for her sister's pregnancy (discussed whether she is the "asshole").
  3. Conclusion: The consensus is that she is not the "asshole" for wanting to proceed with her wedding.
  4. Dilemma 2: A woman prepares a traditional meal for her boyfriend's co-workers, only for her boyfriend to criticize it.
  5. Conclusion: Tom and Romesh agree that the boyfriend's reaction is inappropriate and damaging.
  1. Anecdotes and Fun Stories
  2. Tom shares humorous personal experiences, including a mix-up at a dinner, and both hosts illustrate the absurdities of life in a comedic light.
  3. They discuss the potential for haunted house experiences and ghost stories, highlighting their contrasting views on fear and belief in the supernatural.
  1. Reflections on Age and Life Experience
  2. Discussion around turning 50 and what it means for personal growth and self-acceptance.
  3. Emphasis on enjoying life in the present rather than worrying about age.

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Key Takeaways

  • Emotional Attachments: It's natural to feel connected to objects that represent significant moments in life.
  • Positivity vs. Reality: While maintaining a positive outlook is beneficial, it’s equally important to accept disappointment and learn from experiences.
  • Communication in Relationships: Open dialogue about expectations and feelings is crucial in preventing misunderstandings.
  • Audience Impact: Live performances can be heavily influenced by audience dynamics, highlighting the need for resilience in the face of adversity.
  • Self-Reflection: Aging can bring a sense of comfort and clarity about personal priorities and values.

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Engagement Information

  • Email: wolfowlpod@gmail.com
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  • Instagram: @wolfowlpod
  • TikTok: @wolfowlpodcast
  • YouTube: www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast
  • Merch & Mailing List: [Wolf & Owl Official Website](https://wolfandowlpod.com)

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Final Thoughts The episode encapsulates the charm and humor of Tom and Romesh as they navigate through their comedic banter, offering insights into personal challenges and the intricacies of human relationships, all while keeping a light-hearted tone. The inclusion of listener dilemmas adds an interactive element that resonates with their audience, making for an engaging and relatable discussion.

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0:03Yo, what do you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws? Whatever's preferred. They'll grant you all last request to steady your nerves Them podcaster body parts get severed and serped Bring your weak shit where the wolf and owl are That ain't just a mistake, that's an awful howler Both of them are known to pull up at your shows Have the crowd witnessing a murder like they're rolling with a gang of crows Fuck the censorship, let them see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon, you'll see nothing All you hear is a huff a puff and a...

0:35Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping impressive innit the death bringing its head spinning just kidding every word in this song is about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog hello and welcome to the world friends we're trying to podcast keep the energy out keep the energy out oh hold up wait there input's gotta be on Yeti innit oh fuck me I've just done a fucking R &B song you prick no no we can keep going but yeah I'm just I'm changing that input microphone output headphones it's like I tell you every week for years and every week you log in and you don't know I don't know what the fuck is wrong with your ears this might be the last time just remember inputs microphone I remember outputs headphones why must I tell you every week sometimes I wonder why I bother to speak Cause I'm dumb, cause I'm dumb And I'm young And I'm full of aspiration You're dumb, you're old And there's no cum left Anyway, lovely to be here on The Wolf for Now Once again, run tell your friend How the hell are you, Tom?

2:13Heck of rude, you know what? In my head, this could be maybe one of the last podcasts that this this laptop does i'm very emotional i'm saying it yeah laptop is on its way out well i've got exciting news actually speaking of which i'm going to show you this now not that this is a promotional item oh no laptop it hasn't been bothered to set it up yet correct do you feel emotional about like i know it's only a like it's only a sort of like inanimate objects essentially to Mac but do you think like you know you've done some writing on there that's probably mean something to you you've had moments on that Mac when you say is it like when you say compared to a car or are you just gonna throw it yeah throw it aimlessly to the side or give it to Theo that's probably not going to be muck that you've got on it I've not got any muck there's no muck on it you can search it top to bottom if you like that's what I said to the police but um no there is I'm going to give it to one of the kids So then they're kind of discussing which one wants it.

3:16But no, I don't feel any emotional attachment at all, really. I mean, look, I've written a lot of stuff on here. Hustle was written on here. Not that I really use a laptop, but I had to transcribe it for various reasons. And then, what a boring thing to say. I had to transcribe it for various reasons. I'm surprised you didn't pull me up on that. No, no, no. I knew you were embarrassing yourself. Yeah, no, thank you for that. Thank you. I think sometimes if the person you're talking to, you can see in their eyes that they're chastising themselves for talking shit. You shouldn't double down on it.

3:48Yeah. Avoidance is written on here. Romantic getaway written on here. Some good times on that. Yeah. Supercharged with mediocrity, actually. I think they said that's one of the problems. That's why the battery life is coming down. It's sometimes when enough shit gets typed in, the actual laptop starts to lose the will to continue giving you charge. And sometimes when the apps are failing, basically it's a lot to go do you really want to open Final Draft again and check out another one of your loads of bollocks

4:22just weaselly just going come on man just give it up man listen do you know what I'd love you to be opening up a teaching app that's something you should be thinking about maybe moving back into just steaming the right hand side of your the menu bar at the bottom just pinging up play a game play a game do something how about this I'm going to bring up YouTube maybe watch some comedies that are worthy of respect and hopefully that'll give you a bit of inspiration huh come on mate come on mate he's probably been talking to the other just going you've got no idea mate I know you're excited about what's going to be created it'll only be him sort of just setting up zooms to talk to his stupid mate and then he's going and then he's going to click on his The interesting bit is the emails that other people send.

5:14He's going to open up a final draft. He's going to crack his knuckles like he's about to do something amazing. You'll be all excited. It'll be the same old one-dimensional route one shtick he always types in.

5:29The new laptop on the shelf just going, oh, this looks interesting. Yeah. Comedy writer. Yeah, this is not what I was expecting to get sent into when those little kids put me together.

5:46anyway tom it's difficult to ask you how you are because uh it's not difficult to ask you how you it's very very easy actually but um i know how you are because we've seen more of each other in the last week than we have in eons yeah yes i love the word eons yeah i literally flipped into my brain there as i was finishing the sentence beautiful descriptive noun of uh word of uh of years or ages. Yeah. Nouns aren't descriptive. It's a teachable moment here.

6:16You're thinking of adjectives. Very much in keeping in with the podcast. Yeah. Eons is beautiful. Also, isn't it a name, Eon? Eon? Yeah. I swear. This is so sad. Have you spent this whole time thinking his name's Eon Musk? No. No, not obviously you hit that guy. but yeah i swear there's eon's a name yeah yeah there's like an eon queen or an eon mcdermott out there somewhere i think i think you might be thinking of ewan i'm just going to look this up because i've chastised you in the past um in fact actually somebody got speaking of it somebody had a go at me about how much i have a go at you an eon oh no it refers to the james bond production company eon productions or a large european energy company eon so is that what you mean are you good friends with the energy company or the james bond production company or james bond production company can give me a shout if they need the new jaws that's for sure um i think you'd be an unbelievable unbelievable um james bond villain i'd love to be a james bond oh my god could you do i really want to manifest that shit you should it doesn't matter do you okay let's just get into this now do you genuinely believe that manifesting works you know what i think about manifesting right it's better to think about positively thinking about saying no it's happening and thinking about shit happening correct like like i usually sit in the corner of catastrophizing like why would they pick me all the different people that they could pick why would i even be in the running whereas now i'm trying to be more positive with how i think of things things going well you know what a lot of the sort of actors who could play jaws have already been in bond so slim pickings yeah i told you about the did i tell you about the um audition thing we got recently that's it have i told this about the i can't name the movie but it was quite a big film and uh they basically got in touch and they were like there's a part that we think could be good for Tom and I was like wow this is this is big big big film this isn't like I sort of shake him when I open the email at the size of the thing read the part really fun part multi-layered I was like fucking oh this is incredible um I go and uh I have a chat with um uh someone from the casting department and they were like uh okay before you get too excited um And this is very much, we like you for this.

8:50We think you could be great for this. But there's offers out on this part. So we need you to know that we're going out to DeBatista, Jason Mamar. We're looking at potentially a guy from the WWE who hasn't done any acting before, but we like him. We think he has an energy. They've basically subsequently reeled off about 17 or 18 names of different big guys around the globe. and then we were like you know so we got some offers out there's some people interested some people reading it but if these people aren't you know into it we'd love to see a tape I'm sorry it feels like a weird time to contact you to demonstrate interest doesn't it yeah at the moment the industry is in a very strange place so like if these people don't want to do it would you be interested in getting involved it's just it's um it's it's a real telling uh you know no disrespect to this to this film and and the people that are making it or whatever but it's a it's sometimes it's really telling how people are willing to treat you when they can i mean it's such a i mean listen it's not the worst thing that's ever happened to anybody but it's a weird thing to say to you to list you all the names that are ahead of you in the thing you have to be you have to be they have to trust And by the way, in reality, there's nothing wrong with that, I guess.

10:16You know, if you take away your personal ego and your attachment to how well you think you can do the job, because we both know you would have been, if you get it or where, I don't know what the state of mind is. Oh, no, no, it's not good. It's definitely gone away. So someone else has taken up that. You'd be brilliant at it. We know that, right? Because you're supremely talented. If you put that to one side, it makes sense. you know sometimes when you sort of uh like when you when you sort of see that these dead listing these names it makes sense right i mean dave batista sure of course they're going to go incredible it makes sense it makes sense but they have to be pretty sure that you're in the sort of you're in the sort of mental position or whatever to not be really upset by that right i would say firstly i'd say when i came on i was very very enthusiastic as i as you mean you know is my what I am.

11:08Big surprise. Big surprise. I'm really excited about it. And that's before you knew it was about the movie, right? You just thought there was a random Zoom that you clicked on. It's a happy chance that you'd managed to actually speak to someone. If I could send a Zoom on my email, I'd jump in and I'd enter whatever Zoom. It could be a business meeting. If you ever find Tom's email address, just send him a Zoom. He'll ping on there like he's being cast as the new Black Panther. So that, you know, just... It could be for anything. Yeah. And it'll be that news essay, it. By the way, you think to yourself, surely Tom wouldn't be enthusiastic about being cast as a new Black Panther, the backlash would be enormous.

11:43No, Tom would still be absolutely David Wright And it doesn't have to be a casting for anything. It could be anything. Yeah, it could be just talking about it could be somebody that's seen Black Panther and wants to just talk to you about it. Tom Hanks I would enter that with the same energy as someone who's just found out that they've won the lottery and got engaged on the same day. And that their wife to be is ask them to marry them um i think i think so i came on something very very enthusiastic very chatty um and i think that they're i think i think i don't think they necessarily meant i personally don't think they were being harsh or mean i just think they were trying to manage expectations but here's a way to manage expectations don't contact you yet yeah yeah yeah you know that that's that's that's a really good way of i have a stupid I realized, by the way, look, so this movie was shooting in another country quite a lot away from here.

12:38I started asking questions about the country and sort of like asking about accommodation time. Oh, no. Whereabouts would it be in this country? I haven't been there. I've read, sort of said I'd read about it a bit. And I think, so I think there's an element of like, hey, buddy, you're a good guy. You seem like a sweet kid. but even though you're 20 years older than me, it feels okay to call you a kid. Tom, tell me, just before we get into this, have you heard of Google?

13:12Are you aware of that as a thing? Do they have that in the UK? Just to look up stuff? The thing is, mate, I just got really excited. I don't want to hear from first day what a place that might be good. What would you say? I'm obviously really excited to get involved in the project. Yeah, I need to tell you, Tom, Tom, Tom, you're not involved yet. This is really just a precursor. Well, let me just stop you there, my sweet, sweet soul. What I would say is even by dint of the fact... Okay, sweet, sweet soul, I find you being condescending there. Even by dint of the fact that I'm on this Zoom discussion, it means that I'm involved in the project in a small way.

13:48Very much a favour to your agent, who's my cousin in the UK. I know it's shooting in Thailand. My question is, where'd you get the best Pad Thai? I bloody love Pad Thai. All the little noodley noodles sitting in my tummy. Where do you think? Where do you think? On the first date, hold on a second. Maybe you go to Phuket on your own and you try some of this. Me and my friends call it Fuck It. Yeah, your agent told me that you are a fucking idiot. Okay, Tom, Tom, Tom. A Phuket idiot. Is that how you pronounce it? A Phuket idiot. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Tom, I need to level with you on this. Tom, okay, listen.

14:29I'm just really, honestly, can I just say? We like you. I know, can I just stop you? I know we've only just started talking. You are one of my favorite people I've ever interacted with. Yeah, okay. Okay, with that as a cursor, with that in mind, I need to tell you. You and I should go. You and I should get a pad thai. We could call it lad thai. That's very good. What I need to tell you, Tom, is you're very much on the reserve part of the list for this part. Okay? I don't want you to get your hopes up. Will you actually say, but let me just properly conjugate and commemorate what you're saying to me, what you're throwing down.

15:09Neither of those words work in this scenario. So I'm assuming there'll be... Hey, Colette, this is going to run. Colette, this is running. When you say reserve, I assume there'll be a bench flowing out to Thailand. You're not on the bench. Okay. Well, reserve. Do I break this down? Reserve. Are you a sports fan, Tom? Are you a sports fan, Tom? A sports fan. A sports fan. Do you like sport? Sport? Yeah, of course. Come on, you irons. Yeah, okay. I'm guessing that's a soccer team. Yeah, okay, Tom, Tom. So if you will think about it as a sports team, and you have your first starting 11 in soccer, or you have your five in basketball, and then you have the bench, you would be somebody who's hoping to get on the bench.

15:59No, no, no, no, no, you're not on the bench. Under no scenario, I don't want you to get carried away. Tom, you're not on the bench. You're in the changing room hoping to get on the bench. Okay? Scenario-wise. Do you know what happens before the bench? They get changed. You're not getting changed. At the moment, I don't want you to get this dizzy. You've not even got a kit. There's no, you know, but there's a chance to... Who do I speak to to get a kit then? What we're saying to you is at some point... Should I get my agent to email about a kit then? Say if 18 other players... I can buy my own kit.

16:36I'll bring my own kit. No, no, no, no, no. If 18 other players get in... I've got loads of clothes. I love crafts. Ask anybody. Tom, look, I need to tell you, and I don't want you to be upset by this. This is very much a favor. Your agent has told me that you were getting quite down about the industry. I know that this might make it worse, but this is very much a call to say, we know who you are. We understand that you are an actor. But at the moment, there's 18 other actors who we're going to go out to. And if those other 18 don't want to take the part, there'll be another list, and you should be on that list.

17:13Okay? That's what I'm saying here. Okay? I've got to be honest with you. I can't... I cannot actually believe this. And Tom, can I say as well, if you're doing a Zoom like this, wear a top. You should be wearing a shirt. To do this topless is a big move. So what you're saying is, if I can just summarize what you're saying, you know I'm an actor.

17:45thank you thank you so much you sweet sweet soul that's what you're going to take from this that's great okay that's i like a positive attitude so we should be in touch i've got a very can-do attitude i think i can do everything like you know yeah you tell me about something for 10 minutes i believe you know what tom tom you know what you can do right now end the zoom because at the moment you're you're trickling down that list and there's a chance that Uh, okay. Um, it was fun. Fun, fun. It was fun, yeah. I didn't, I sort of felt like, uh, it lost a bit of steam towards the end there. Well, JT will make some slips if they need it.

18:19Um, yeah, so that was, that's a very, yeah, that's how I felt with that vibe. Yeah, I don't even know how, why did we start talking about that in the first place? I can't even remember now. As is our way.

18:40Oh, we're talking about manifestation. Oh, yeah. Do you believe manifestation works? Yeah, but I think it's just good to be positive rather than negative in life, right? Trying to go forward. I do think it's okay to be positive, but I do think there's a downside to being positive if you might allow me a little bit of space to discuss. Preach, my brother. Preach. Well... My solid helmet. Preach. Well, in my opinion, the problem with being positive is that you require things to go well in order for you to fuel that kind of energy do you know what I mean and so so there is a certain argument that being positive means that if you're in it you will have noticed like I mean this is just what I'm doing from my experience but you know it's like if you're in a negative mood then you feel like everything's against you and then it's confirmation bias you start looking for the negative things whereas if you're positive you start being you know you start looking for the positive things the problem is is like if you're feeling really positive and then you don't get something, then that is, then that leads to disappointment.

19:38I think the key, and I've not mastered this yet, but I think the key is to accept whatever outcomes as equal, you know, as equally okay for your life. Do you know what I mean? So if you're going for something and you really, really want it, if you get it, that's great. If you don't get it, that is also great. You know, you have to try and find a way where unaffected by these things in my opinion i and i haven't managed it but i think that's probably the way to true that's the way to true enlightenment find yeah and really i think so yeah see i i i think it's just like pick yourself up dust yourself down going for another round yeah if you're a boxer who's had the kicked out of seven rounds you gotta think there's five rounds left i've only got to land a punch yeah but you'll still lose though won't you if you just land a punch you know but not if that punch not yeah so what i'm saying is it yeah sure if if a punch yeah but if then the punch doesn't knock the guy out then you're feeling like you failed but you haven't but then you go hold up hold up there's a way i can get through his guard right there you go yeah yeah yeah yeah but then if you then still my point is if you still then gone to lose the fight i my argument is you've got to find a way that you can still be content regardless of that a little bit like dave allen you know mate can i say dave allen by the way i just adore dave allen well the reason i mentioned him is well partly because he brought up the boxing but also i heard him give like such a an honest appraisal of almost uh too self-deprecating about his performance and you know his performance in the ring or whatever he's did you watch the fight i watched the highlights yeah it's incredible that he just he kept some going forward and going forward and And, you know, he lost the fight, as he said.

21:22But he is like, I don't know if you know too much about his past and everything, but he's just a very honest soul within the world of sport. You know, he wears all his past, you know, very openly. And I think that's actually quite an incredible thing. I mean, look. He was really good. You know, he was at school with Lewis Tomlinson. Was he really? They were really good friends. surrounding the same crowd. I mean, I can imagine that was quite a cool group of lads to be in with. A bit like my group of lads when I was at Hazelwick. I think it's good to be honest about what's going on, whether it be, I don't know, in a boxing ring or underselling your Dublin show.

22:07I don't think there's anything wrong in just being open. Yeah, I think you're being earnest. By the time this goes out, we've currently not done the Dublin show. By the time this goes out, we will have done the Dublin show. Can I just say, what a show. Thank you so much to all of you for coming out. Thank you to Ashton B. To the 27 people that were there. Thank you to Ashton B for joining us. And to get a nine-minute standing ovation, I felt like I was in Cannes. It was unbelievable. I'm slightly... Dublin is very hard to... We had two incredible shows that were so great. The Hackney Empire. thank you so much oh by the way while we're talking about Hackney Empire just I don't want to bring the mood down but there was there's a somebody at our show and I'm not going to go into details but they got in touch they had a horrible they basically had a bit of a horrible experience as a result of somebody else that had too much to drink and was just being a bit of a horrible bastard was just something to do with what happened at the end yeah and can I just say first of all I want to give my biggest apologies to that person who you should be able to come to a show and it's absolutely fine um the other person um have a like have a long hard look at yourself man like i don't know what the you're thinking but it's just it was horrible but look i i just wanted to get that out there because i don't want to i had a lot of people message i don't know about you but message about the what happened at the end of um wednesday's show it was it was a very strange i mean i i've weirdly had that in stand-up where that's happened but it was a bit of a blight at the end of one being two amazing nights and it's the old adage it only takes one prick to ruin a fate so to speak what a horrible analogy that is by the way

24:02but anyway thank you so much to everyone that came to the Hackney Empire shows they were great we don't know Dublin might be sold out we might walk into a sold out room. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to, I think it's going to be a struggle to happen. But, a shout out to Aisling B for being, as you said, being involved. Sweet, sweet Aisling. I mean, it's what I'm finding incredible actually is somebody that's just been spouting forth on the merits of being positive. Since we start talking about our own experience you've sort of become one of the most, your shoulders have dropped, your head's dropped, your voice tone has changed.

24:37It's really horrible to watch. I've got to say that whenever I think about, oh look, I have slight PTSD on the basis that I have this with me and you have joked about this before when I last toured Ireland I had this exact scenario with Dublin I've been here I love Dublin it's very much a place as me as I've talked openly about I see as you know the land of my forefathers I adore the Irish people I think maybe again it might be me being a little bit begging like a Jack Russell running to someone's back door. Yeah. Sort of like scratching on the door. An owner who'd forgotten about me potentially.

25:13But, but look, we're very grateful to the people that came and we're so glad it sold out. It was amazing. It's like, we thought it wasn't going to sell well and ended up selling out. It's incredible. Now, Tom, I'd love to, before we get into emails, Yeah. I'd love to explore something with you, if you might let me. Go on, my darling friend. My sweet achievement. bear with me one second my sweet achievement yeah so um i so there's i i know there's a tv show coming out about this but when i was awake because i just announced um this show that this this show for prime video when we're away filming this thing um we got into me and you know lindsey costume lindsey yeah because that's not a film um but anyway lindsey kit and uh aiden who As we know, against previous insinuations, you like.

26:12I do, I do. Yeah, yeah. Delicious prospect. We started talking about Am I the Arsehole, which is where people sort of send in scenarios and say, am I the prick in this situation? All right, so I'd love to give you a couple of these, Tom, and see what you think, all right? And if anybody listening from the animal pack has got any of these, we'd love some of these, actually. Well, depending on how this goes, this might go shit. Okay, ready? So imagine JT had put together a jingle. Yeah. Am I the asshole? Am I the asshole? Am I the asshole? Okay. I'm finally getting married in two months' time, after a year of planning, and everything has been going to plan so far with no hiccups.

26:54That was until my mother called me earlier in the week to ask me to postpone my wedding by at least a month. My sister is currently pregnant. Her due date is July the 17th. my sister asked my mother to be there for her for the whole of July since the due date is just an estimate and this is her first baby long story short the father of her child is my ex-boyfriend whom she was sleeping with while we were dating I'm not willing to postpone my wedding for my sister and I told my mother that and also that she just simply needed to choose who she wanted to support she's been fence-sitting and that's why we're here she said I'm forcing her to make an impossible decision and my aunts are also trying to convince me to postpone don't get me wrong i know she's also mum's child and wants to be there for her but i want her there for me and i've already waited a year for this and everything is already planned am i the asshole tom what do you think in that situation please no no no no no see this person isn't the asshole i mean if anything this person feels like they've absolutely had a a rough or rye through life the mother um who so the sister was sleeping with the person's sister's having the boyfriend the baby with the sister sleeping with her boyfriend while they were together yeah I mean it feels like they've papered over those cracks which I think will lead to further sort of sort of rough water down the road I also think like isn't it strange that like the mum would even like I don't know not that the the sister who's done this should be ostracised and thrown from the village no but it is I don't think anybody suggests that she should be thrown from the village no but it's a quite a scandalous thing to do, isn't it?

28:33Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You think there'd be a little bit of, you know, maybe give her a week where she's got like a week window for the baby and then you're like, look, you know, Claire, what you did to Claire was disgusting and Claire, you know, moved on from, from the, the kicking that, you know, you and Aiden gave her. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Why have you gone for Aiden there as a name? Because we were just talking about Aiden's fabulous. Aiden's in the back of my head. but it just feels like and unfortunately this guy's called Aidan Deliver okay she's like Aidan Deliver and you know Claire Deliver we know that I mean a ridiculous name Claire and obviously that he's you know he's had an affair with your sister Sue but Sue and Aidan are happy now but so I've given them a week's window to have the baby in and then you can get married any of the other three weeks but I think that more people should be there for Claire because I think she sounds like she's had a real I don't know who Claire is tough time Claire's Claire's Claire's the woman who's getting married okay Aidan and Sue are the scumbags who cheated on her well you know it's very easy to say that isn't it we don't know the circumstances do we well in what sense I think it's I think we don't look I think it's situation wise I don't think there's a more affair wise for a sister to sleep with someone's boyfriend is a pretty horrible situation to find yourself in.

30:02What I'm saying is there could be supporting information that might make that not seem as bad as it actually is. As a judge, I can't see it. I know, but I'm just saying you're assuming, and what does assuming do? It makes an ass of you and me, doesn't it? Yeah, but you can say that. That's one of those stupid... But we're in a court of law at the moment. We're not in a court of law. Assumption is all I have. I have to deal with the facts and the case that I have. That is that Claire was cheated on by Sue and Aidan, a scandalous pair of harlots right Claire has managed to drag herself up from this heartbreak alongside by the way let me say she's in one lane and she's found true love on the flip side looking to her right she's got Aidan and Claire Sue just getting on very very happy with themselves and just flying through and now they're having a baby they're probably going to get married doubt that Claire's going to be involved so what I'm saying is at the moment we have to look at what we have the facts that we have on paper I didn't realise we were in a court.

30:58I think the most disgusting prick in this is Aidan. I think he's a horrible man. I think that Sue needs to have a cold, hard look at herself. And I think the mother is also awful because she thinks she's playing her daughters off against each other and actually needs to look at your kids as equals, not as pillars that you could be propped up by because your own life is shambolic. I think that Claire is a saint. Okay, well, we don't know. I mean, all of these, thank God you're not actually a judge. But, you know, I just think, I don't think Claire, as you call her, is the arsehole in this at all.

31:38She's a princess. We don't know she's a princess either, but she's not the arsehole in this. She's a very decent human being. But I think if, I don't think she should be forcing anything. I think like, I mean, I don't think her mum should be asking her to postpone the wedding. I think she makes the choice that she makes it's right for her. And she can say to her mum, look, I'm not willing to postpone the wedding. I don't think that makes her an arsehole. And you can be there or not. It's up to you. And then she has to let her mum make that decision. I think that's the only way to do it, really.

32:11I don't think she's an arsehole. But do you not think that Claire's mum is treating her daughters like trinkets from a sort of fairground that she sort of picks up and drops whenever she likes? No, I don't. I don't. I think, you know, we don't know if there's any issues. Like, you know, her other daughter might be feeling really nervous about the pregnancy and she wants to be supportive as a mother. I wouldn't, I don't, I think it's a bit of a lexism. Well, I can tell you now, by the way, can I just say, by the way, the scumbag that has had an affair with her, he is not, he won't be around for a long time.

32:40We don't definitely know he's a scumbag, do we? I mean, that's the other thing. Yeah, but he's got, what, he's sleeping with his sister? I know, I know, look, look, look, don't get me wrong, in all likelihood, this isn't good, right? I get that. no i get that but you know what i'm saying christmas dinner when he's just giving sue a nudge and claire's like toiling over a big turkey yeah but about whether the parsnips are going to be crispy enough yeah oh god everyone i'm so sorry dinner will be ready soon aiden gives sue a nudge and goes come on let's go upstairs sue giggles flirtatiously her mum gives them both a knowing wink don't worry i've got this you two well i feel like you're adding a few layers there I'm just saying the world's conspired against Claire doing her best sweating there the sprouts steaming in her face dinner's really ready dinner's really ready yeah sure but Tom I do feel like you're sort of guilty of not following your own advice there Claire has met someone else she's getting married she's in love so the idea that the world is conspiring you know what Claire's life is like now is it's just her and Bill on Christmas Day and she's like, oh God, I hope this past is crispy.

33:52Bill puts his hand on her lower back and goes, hey, however they're done, they'll be delicious because you've cooked these with love and respect. And she'll go, you, wow, this didn't used to be my Christmas days. What a fucking sad nerd. Shut up, Bill. Anyway,

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34:12do you want one more? Would you like one more? Hit me, baby. Am I the asshole? Am I the asshole? Am I the asshole? This was quite long, so I'll try and sub it as I go. Paraphrase. Yeah. My boyfriend and I have recently hosted a dinner at his place with some of his co-workers and their partners. He recently got a promotion at work, and his friends over there are asking for a treat. I'm South Asian, and sometimes when I have leftovers from some of the traditional dishes I cook, I pack it for his lunch. Apparently, many of his co-workers like the smell and look of his food, and some have even tried it and liked it.

34:46she's Bangladeshi by the way to give you an insight so when i asked him if we just invite them at his place where i'd cook some traditional dinner he got excited and said yes he gave me a heads up that two of them are vegetarian for dinner she's gone into the details here for dinner i cooked white rice tomato chutney mashed potatoes spinach onion fritters fried egg plant chinese vegetables spicy egg curry chicken curry lentils with green mango for dessert i made carrot based pudding also serve veg strip snacks and beverages before dinner is an evening snack all of them seemed to love my cooking and kept complimenting me throughout the night they also asked me many questions about the ingredients and what's the best way to eat each of them i was happy to answer those after they all left my boyfriend started ranting what was all that about i got very confused and apparently when he assumed i was going to cook traditional meals he thought it'd be more like what they serve at the weddings buriani chicken roast spiced beefy curry kebab fried fish and other types of veggie dishes he thought what we served was not up to standards especially when guests are over i argue that most of my dishes are vegetarian friendly and these are comfort food which is also quite tasty since they're all seasoned properly made from scratch he keeps saying he should have just taken to a restaurant and i'm lucky none of them are indian or something otherwise they'd be able to tell that we just fed them grass i was very hurt by that comment since he put high effort into all the cooking when i don't even live there um okay i mean the hell this is hardly a look i mean i know that sometimes i struggle but there's fucking who's the prick in this situation the boyfriend's a fucking i think by the way who's the what an absolute fucking awful fucking human being it's difficult to see another side of this isn't it there's no other side of it there's this beautiful fucking absolute dame who's fucking there she's cooking everything's extravagant and by the way everything you said aside the mashed potato which i'm completely enamored by and i'd love to see what what she's done there she's cooking this beautiful banquet for his friends and then he's got the front oh my god this guy's got to fuck off seriously are these scenarios or are these real people this is somebody who submitted it to Reddit wow my god get out of Dodge girl get out of Dodge find someone who yeah Dodge I don't know why I gave more emphasis I'd love it if her and claire just bumped into each other at supermarket or a juice bar and became friends um they kind of need each other just because they need each other it's a nice thing okay i feel like they're both both people have been taken for granted in life and that's one thing that really upsets me like lewis lane pardon like lewis lane yeah no you're right um okay uh if you've got any am i the asshole dilemmas we'd love to hear them a wolf al pod at gmail.com please and also can Can you put Am I the Asshole in the title of the, just so we know, in the subject line?

37:43Am I the Asshole? Am I the Asshole? Am I the Asshole?

38:26Now speaking of emails. Hit me, baby. Alright, this is from Anonymous. As a mom of a 15-year-old, every time a mom says 6-7, it cracks me up. Tom seems so dismissive each time Rom says it. I'm wondering if Tom has any clue what Rom is saying. It makes it so much more funny. I'm so brainwashed by this that when I'm looking at spreadsheets at work and I see 6 '7", I say it in my head that way. Can we find out if Tom understands the difference? The reference, sorry. Do you know what she's talking about? Go on, go on. Sorry? Well, how tall are you? 6 '7". 6 '7"! Have you noticed I've been doing that every time you say 6 '7"?

39:01No. No? Yeah. I've only done it a few times. But it's like a meme. my kids constantly you can't say the word six seven without them going six seven it's like this new skim oh really yeah six seven you should do that and put it up Dad do you know what comes after five what six seven there's a lot of that in our house can we just get you doing that and we can release it as like a little six seven yeah so I did it a couple of times when you've said six seven and you haven't clocked it wow and right what I love is you eat yeah do you know what I mean how tall are you the eagle 6 '7 6 '7 I like it I like it usually by the way when I'm talking about my height I'm very very in the zone of talking about my height no that's true you really do lock in I was actually by the way I was chatting to someone the other day about doing a range of sort of caps with 6 '7 on them you've got 8 '7 on yours but yes 6 '7 on them if people haven't got asked my height oh that's good I'm 6 '7 no that's a really good idea yeah I might get a t-shirt that said it was an eye infection when I was younger.

40:11Hi, Ramesh and Tom. I'm turning 48 in December. I'm creeping towards the big 5-0 and wondering what's your advice for enjoying the run up to 50 without felling the half-time whistle's gone? I'll beat your Dublin show next week. Can't wait. What do you think? Sorry. Can you go again? Kefrem's just texted me about asking me about where Gracie's lively look was.

40:35and then I couldn't remember she gets a little fine if she doesn't get a library what did you think I was doing while you were doing that? I thought you were looking for the emails I was like Catherine's taking Grace to school now so she's like she's just texted me and she said sorry to interrupt by the way we should say on this what a big Romesh Ranganathan fan Grace has become oh my god do you mind if I play this in because this is one of the best things that's ever happened to me you can play yeah you can play the sound yeah hold on one second so this is Tom Davis I'm singing during my Sunday night.

41:05We're about to settle down to... I'll talk to you about this in a minute. But we're about to settle down to watch Weapons, Theo, Lisa and I, which I don't know if you're aware of that film. Yeah, no, I've heard about it. I've not watched it. Anyway, we'll talk about that in a minute. But anyway, then I'll get this video from Tom. This is Grace. Mamesh! I love Mamesh! I love Mamesh!

41:27That is very cute, man. Ramesh, I love Ramesh so much. Yeah, very sweet. where's that come from we were we were watching some of your highlight reels did she watch that clip i posted on instagram last night yeah it was about your asshole felt like a really good no she's a big week weakest link fan right also very much yeah loves chicken run too we watch it a lot she constantly asking like she knows the character but she now thinks you play all the characters in chicken well actually that's what well that's what we originally went for that's what i said to flo to go for to push for but um yeah she didn't manage to make it work yeah but my god it's a beautiful voice that you use anyhow go what's weapons like you're a fan oh so it's like a it's a horror film essentially so the premise of the film is uh this class in this school all of the kids go missing apart from one kid right they just disappear yeah and the the setup i won't give any well and the thing that they've all have in common is that quarter past two in the morning they all got up out of bed and ran out of their houses never to be seen again and so the film just kind of explores why that all happens and it was amazing but it's so funny watching so charlie and alex had gone to bed so it's me theo and lisa lovely beautiful we just sat and watched this film in the dark and we were oh mate i mean we were jumping up and down swearing screaming grabbing each other it was an like watching a horror film was an amazing experience i mean some people say it's not a horror some people say it's a thriller with horror elements but whatever it was you know it's got scary bits in it i've heard any good things my friend i've heard any good things yeah it's good i'd love to be in a horror film you know we should do one we should do a horror a gentle horror why has it got to be gentle well actually when we did when we did the hackney shows we were talking about somebody uh we started talking about ghosts for some reason somebody that messaged in was into ghosts and then we talked about the fact that you and i were talking about staying at a haunted house and then I secretly got freaked out and didn't pursue it any further but I don't know how I'd do with that I think we should do it as an extra like a bolt on, we should do it you're not going to be able to stay at a house like that man, if shit starts going down, it's just you and me and some podcast equipment, you think that's going to be cool JT ain't coming let me tell you that for nothing JT, by the way, JT strikes me actually JT's very level headed you know who would be great is rob percy in that situation yeah big shout out to rob percy who's djing at the shows he would be great i adore rob percy he's very much become a bit of part of the fabric of this podcast yeah but i don't want him he's i don't want him there doing sound affairs it's the opposite of what we know he has a beautiful yeah but he's got a beautiful vibe to me i think even ghosts would like rob percy i don't doubt that but um i just i think it would freak me out too much yeah i mean i don't believe in them is but yeah but you know what i believe in them i know they're out there but you what what makes me laugh is you don't believe in them yet you're more terrified than me well yeah i know it's weird so and i believe in them yeah but you better get believing or get achieving sir okay very good very good um my eye uh positive theory that the reason that you're not scared is that you're not fully engaging with what the reality of this experience is going to be if we do it what number one okay worst case scenario we get attacked by some ghost schools right and we have to fucking try and fight for our way out of a haunted house right tom let me just as you were discussing at the wolf and al hackney show um you were shit scared because you woke up to find a t-shirt draped across a lamp that you didn't know was there so the idea that you and i are going to be fighting blade style through a lot a bunch of monsters seems unrealistic doesn't it?

45:09Mate, if fucking ghosts come for me and you, bro, you best believe I'm going to fight to the death against them. I'm not leaving you there. I don't doubt it'll be to the death. My question is, do you really think you're going to have a brave reaction in that scenario if that was to happen? I'd have to have. Of course, I'd be terrified at first. I'd be like, fuck, fuck. And then you're going, we've only got one way out, mate. We've got to do what we can to stay alive. And then I'm like, okay, fuck it. This guy's fucking... he's less scared than I am. And then it'll become a competition about who's less scared, who's more scared.

45:43We'll probably find some, like, I don't know, like rakes and fucking bits of shit to fight the fucking ghosts with. You can't fight a ghost with rakes, bro. Okay, imagine this, right? Just imagine this. Imagine we were, we're lying in bed, not together. Yeah. You know, I imagine we'll be sleeping in the same... Probably sleeping bags, by the way. Yeah. There won't be beds. In the same... Well, some of the stuff we got sent in was like hotels, haunted hotels. You go and stay in a room are you going to stay in the room now well we share we share a room obviously i'm not fucking going in a room on my own in a place like that are you mad like fucking hell but i i i think that we'd have to get a toilet like a well i don't want to share toilets with you are you going to talk about what happy the heck news it's gonna we can talk about it i mean i wasn't going to bring it up but okay cool but let's let's talk no no no you wanted to open that horrible can of turds let's do it so so people at hackney will know that uh tom we had uh we got some lovely food before the show from temple of satan really good really good amazing anyway yeah as is tom's sort of way he needed to go to the toilet almost immediately after he sort of as he was chewing the last bit of food he said oh i'm gonna have to make some space or whatever and then he went off and he came back and uh what it turned out tom had done was he'd gone into the first toilet to do smaller toilet the smaller caboose done a bit decided it was too small and then finished his shit in the other toilet there's only two toilets so he's basically done a two-course shit i've never even heard of that before but he did what you did render both toilets borderline unusable for a short time afterwards yeah yeah there was no windows in them and i did feel i did feel for you as you sort of squeezed into that i mean that that first thought was so small it's tiny yeah the reason i went into that one is because i thought this will be the one that's been least yeah yeah yeah yeah effective because you see you've only done the hors d 'oeuvre yeah so listen if we're sharing we can have our own toilets but we're sharing a room okay ghosts come to us.

47:52So imagine this. Worst case scenario. Go hit me, hit me. No, but you're thinking about ghosts come to us and it's like fucking Casper and his mates turn up. I'm telling you, like, you're lying... By the way, if Casper turns up, it doesn't matter if it's Casper, I will fuck it up. I'm not going through it again. Yeah, fine, fine. So we lie in bed and then you just start hearing knocking from inside a wardrobe or from behind a mirror or something. Or like you hear a scream in the distance. You're telling me you're not shitting your pants? Of course I'm shitting my pants. I'm going to be fucking terrified.

48:22I'd have a vivid and fucking vulnerable imagination, right? But I'm not going to fuck it. Like, if I'm in a scenario, I'm not just going to bow down and go, all right, we're going to get fucked up by some ghosts. That's just how we're going to live it out here. Like, worst case scenario, if the ghosts come into the room and it's me and you, I will fucking go, right, we've got no eco... Fucking, we haven't got the Ghostbusters fucking proton packs, right? So we're going to have to fucking do it. Will you say those words, do you think? We haven't got the Ghostbusters proton packs. I'd probably say something like, we've got no proton packs here.

48:53If I was with somebody in a situation I didn't know them, like say, for example, I ended up in some situation where we're facing off against some ghosts and the other person said, we haven't got Ghostbusters proton packs. I'd probably just kill myself because I'd rather just do this under my own hand than be with what is clearly a fucking idiot as we head to our inevitable deaths. Right. Yeah, but you've got to fucking look at the scenario we've got. what a guy who's got we've got fucking all we've got is at each other right so we're gonna have to try and outrun these and fucking probably lay some traps or like you know some sort of sleight of hand magic i understand i understand that if we're being attacked by the two burglars from home alone but if we're facing off against actual demons or whatever it is how do you beat a ghost in a fight well i don't you can't yeah so what do we do we just have to wait till morning Well, you know, they're all scared of lights.

49:49If you turn all the lights on. Not true. Really? Yeah. That's not going to work. If we're doing this, I'm going to have to put... Can someone get in touch about how we deal with ghosts if they come to attack us? Maybe we need to take somebody like a guardian with us. Like a ghost expert. Yeah. By the way, do you know anything about this? Because you're mates with Charlie Cooper, aren't you? Aren't Charlie and Daisy May Cooper doing a haunted... Yeah, they're doing... They're doing a documentary about it. Do you know anything about it? By the way, they're both big ghosties. And I'm with them on that.

50:26But yeah, I mean, I know a little bit about what they filmed. I can't give any spoilers, but it sounds pretty incredible. Okay. Well, you know, I don't really want to be stepping on their toes. As we know, this podcast is so original. I would hate to be doing any derivative content.

50:45So anyway, let's go back to that email you were reading. no what did it say I can't remember oh yeah I'm turning 48 in December creeping towards the big 5-0 wondering what your advice is for joining the run up to 5 to 50 without feeling like the half time whistle's gone I mean half time chance will be a fine thing with my life expectancy but anyway go on same same listen my friend age ain't nothing but a number baby what you've got to look at isn't how old you are in the half time point you've got to think wow yeah I've played a half of life and I've got a half left to achieve even more look at the next part as being the chapters that you're going to be most proud of I'm not talking about always just doing the most incredible things but actually settling sometimes for just a little bit of presence just being there just going you know what I've done the hard tool and the hard graph it's just time for me to enjoy to savour the deliciousness of life I think we all put like a stigma around you know I remember turning 30 nay 40 and you know coming up obviously what's good for me is you know three years before I'm 50 Romesh is going to be there so I'm going to see my best friend turning 50 so I'll get an idea of what it's like but I will say this thank you Tom don't let it phase you don't let it trip you up smile as you face 50 and say hello brother shall we dance and go for it yeah be proud yeah be proud five and the o yeah it's um uh i i found uh turning 40 i didn't find it tricky but i just said okay i'm sort of it's not there's certain you know you're just a little less cool aren't you in the traditional way of thinking of things but actually i think you've become more cool since you're 40.

52:36yeah some actually flow um i so i did can i just take opportunity to thank everyone who came to the i did three nights at the hackney empire because i did the following night we did a gig for uh unicef in aid of sudan sudan and um uh thank you to everybody that came to that but flo said to me i was talking about getting older and then flo said to me you look better than when i first signed you which is it sounds like a compliment but actually it's a damning indictment of how i've looked years ago you know but um but but in all truth i i think that um it's cool i find i think it's quite cool getting older i'm looking forward to it i'm sort of like not looking forward to it like i'm hoping time flies to the point but i think you get more comfortable as you get older you become sort of a bit more uh ready for what life throws at you you become a bit more seasoned uh you're able to say no to things because time you know you realize that you feel you want to spend your time in valuable ways you do things you enjoy more rather than things that you feel that you should do.

53:36It's a great place to be. I don't think you need to be worried about it. I always think when you get to this age, you focus more on the filling of the pie than the crust. Now I know that you weren't listening to a single word I said, because you're thinking about this filling thing. So tell me, what does that mean, Tom? Well, the crust, everyone just, yeah, when you see a pie, right? Pie comes out, right? You look at the crust of the pie because you can't see inside it, right? So you're like, oh wow this is like an amazing pie and you'll put a lot of emphasis on how the pastry breaks or how it feels is it crispy enough is it too soft right and sometimes that can obstruct actually how delicious the center of the pie the filling is you know for you uh i don't know like a cauliflower and cooked in a vegan cheese roux with some peas thrown in right cauliflower and pea pie is what you suggested for me thank you thank you and a bit of probably a bit of butternut squash bit of sweet potato just to give you that little tang um but you know you're so interested in that bit but all you're doing man is you're breaking into the pie right once the crust's gone you've got a beautiful steaming mass that's wholesome and decent and it's and you take your time because it's a bit hot to the tongue.

54:53You're like, oof, I'm going to take the time in this. That's getting older, baby. Yeah, it was a nice analogy that you sort of ruined with the explanation there, I thought. But anyway, well done for coming up with it. Sometimes I can't believe who it is I'm working with. But here it is. What a blessing. All right, Tomo, could you do us the honour of taking us out? It's about that time. Yeah. Philip. Philip was a swan who lived on a pond. He was the only swan surrounded by ducks. Every day he'd swim past them and try to converse. As they bobbed underwater he would stick his neck under smiling. He was approachable but felt very lonesome.

55:44Why do I have this stupid long neck. He always felt that the ducks would look at him. What's he? He's not one of us. Then one day, while potting around the edge of the pond, he finally built up confidence to talk to one of the ducks. He turned around and said, Hey, I'm Philip. How are you? The duck turned around and said, Oh, I see. You're talking to us now. Philip said, What do you mean? He said, Well, you always just, you know, Bob round the pool arrogantly with your head up high. And Philip's like, no, that's not how it's been at all. My head, yay, is high, but I don't feel high or above you in any way.

56:27And the duck goes, really? And he's like, no, if anything, I feel inadequate. I feel very alone. The duck turns around and says, wow, I've got it wrong. We thought that you thought you were better than us, but actually you wanted to be one of us and philip was like i didn't want to be one of you i wanted to be myself but i wanted to be your friend too the duck laughed and before you knew it the other ducks come over the duck explained the situation and all the other ducks laughed but with philip not about him then they all got in the pond and started swimming around so the truth about life is it's easy to look at someone and go they think that they're that thing or they think that they're this thing.

57:11It's easy to make a rash and flippant judgment. But nay, also, it's easy to look at others and think, are they laughing at me? Don't they like me? You can't get in the head of other people, but you can waste a lot of time trying to. So try this going forward. Try to be Philip the Swan who said hello. Try and be the ducks that laughed alongside Philip, not behind his back. try as you might to make this a society in which we live a little bit like that pond short of water at times but always full of love

57:50really nice thank you so much tom um i did a a thing on on can't knock the hustle i joined this uh korean e-sports team and one of the things i like to do is karaoke and we sung madonna a Madonna song this is genius by the way and Jim Jim found it so funny that when I got in the car the other day he just started playing the song and demanded that I sing not demanded in a funny way demanded that I sing and then as he pulled up at my house started playing it again because he loved the fact that I did this character so much so anyway it's like a prayer so JT could you play us out with Madonna's like a prayer thank you so much for listening to The Wall for now we love your support and thank you Dublin for your standing ovation last night.

58:38We thought it was going to be undersold. It ended up being sold out. Crazy. Crazy. Big love, darling. Thanks to Ashton B for taking part. Obviously, we don't know if any of these things will happen. We don't even know if Ashton B might pull out before we actually do the show. Ashton B, she's an absolute staple. She's as good as they get. All right, cool. Thank you so much, guys. Take care. Bye. Big love.

59:05I'm falling out of the sky. I close my eyes. Heaven help me. When you call my name, it's like a little prayer. I'm down on my knees. I want to take you there. Give me my hour. I can feel your power. Just like a friend. You know I'll take you there.

59:40If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfowlpod at gmail.com. That's wolfowlpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas. Thank you.

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