The Traitors, Therapy and Bathroom Etiquette

18:26Romesh Ranganathan:I see. What are you getting... So they mean two different things, don't they? It's exactly what you can play. There's so many things to remember. This is the narrative of what just happened. Let me give you the chronology. Okay. Annoyed that there are two words that mean the same thing. discovery that actually mean a different thing annoyance still yeah would you rather I just let that inside no but it's like no I'm not saying that what I'm saying is that is the like that's Trumpism Trumpism what you've just displayed is Trumpism which is you've decided something to be the case somebody shows you that it's not the case and he's still angry because I still think you've got three things that are almost the same well opaque is the opposite it so yeah I'll give you that one in front of us now we've got transparent translucent and opaque Tom said that's three things that mean the same it's three images clearly showing different stuff one of them is a window that is transparent the next one the best way to describe it is like a frosted window yeah right so translucent where you can still see through but and then the third one is opaque Tom has gone what's the point in three words or something for the same thing because I was looking transparent opposites bro can I just say by the way I think a low-life action right it's when someone has a transparent bathroom window a low-life action I think if you turn around at someone's house and I've got a transparent bathroom window that's a low it's insane I went to someone's house the other day literally you don't have downstairs bathroom downstairs or upstairs like you go turn upstairs bathroom and they've got a transparent window and everyone can just see in.

20:09Romesh Ranganathan:If you're upstairs, who's seeing in there? Other people from other houses. I mean, I know we see it in apartments, I get it, but how many of your windows are matching up with your neighbour's windows? Everyone nearly across the side. Quite a few. If he looked out of a certain window, he'd be able to... Mine, by the way, are all opaque. But haven't you got, like, you've got a whole fence the whole way around. Nobody can see in, can they? You're so cheeky. By the way, can I say, you've given away because of the fact you haven't got anyone near you. You're living on a state. I've got neighbours either side of me.

20:40You haven't got neighbours. I have. Four miles either side. What? Sometimes I see them when I go on a really long walk. My point being, when you go around someone's house and they have got like transparent glass, downstairs is the worst. I've been in a downstairs at someone's barbecue and they didn't even have a blind.

20:59Romesh Ranganathan:That's bad. I would say that's bad. That's awful. It's really bad. I wouldn't say it's low life. I would. I would say that, yeah, that should be your first port of call, is getting a blind or some curtains. Because if someone walks past, the indignifying thing of someone walking past and seeing you standing there in a wee. I think it needs a blind. It does need a blind. It does need a blind. You're going to sit down with you at people's houses as well, aren't you? Have I told you that before? Yeah. I don't want to piss on somebody's seat. Yeah, but then people come around and go, oh, she's having a crap.

21:31Romesh Ranganathan:Well, they don't, because I don't know about you, but I'm slightly quicker at taking a piss than I'm a crap. No, but if I walk past the window and you're sitting on the toilet I assume you're having a shit. Yeah, probably. Where would you sit because I know you're an awkward going to the toilet guy. How would you be if you're sitting there and you're having a wee someone walks past knocks the window and goes you're right mate never drink. How would you be? What are you fucking talking about? What, you're sitting on the toilet? So is it a barbecue this? Yeah, you're going to someone's barbecue house parties I think, right?

22:01It's England England are playing, right? It's the England game. Right? you're like I'm just going to pop for a wee how well do I know these people? I don't know it's someone from say someone from the Off The Curd office okay

22:13Romesh Ranganathan:so I don't like them you know it's Rick from Off The Curd he's having a big big shindig you arrive Rick's like hey Rom how you doing if you need the bathroom it's in there just a ground floor don't use the upstairs ones mate it shows some respect Lisa kids come through ah you look lovely Lisa you alright so right that's all done right yeah completely needless for this example

22:44Romesh Ranganathan:I don't think there's anybody going and this needs more context

22:51so the football's on right Rick's like oh there's people arriving all day mate don't worry come and go as you please yeah if you get bored we'll go home go home

23:03what's wrong I don't know why it's funny it's so funny so everyone's in the garden barbecue's going he's got a big screen in his garden I've never been to Rick's house but this is what yeah right loads of different people are there that you know you need to go to the toilet yeah right do you ask permission or just sneak off

23:21Romesh Ranganathan:if he's showing me where the toilet is I'll probably just sneak off okay so you're going to the toilet yeah or if in the middle of a chat he's just going to the floor yeah Have a good one, mate. Who are you now? Rick. That's Rick. Rick's dancing. See him again? Have a good one, mate. Enjoy it. Thanks, man. Don't do anything I wouldn't. So yeah, you go to the toilet. Someone walks down the side of the house where the toilet is, you're waiting, and they knock on the window and go, Oh, Rob, I didn't know you were here.

23:54Do you, can you still go to the toilet, or are you alerted that you have to stop?

23:59Romesh Ranganathan:uh well i'm sat there now so i've been caught haven't i yeah so i'll probably just go yeah i would have another drink but you wouldn't would you be embarrassed i'd probably come out i would be embarrassed yeah then i'd come out and i go i would acknowledge it i guess it's a bit awkward yeah you've seen me on the night by the way i was i was having a sit down way i thought yeah i told everyone you have a shit yeah and by the way rick tom thinks you're a low life i was by the way i'm I've not even been invited. Yeah. Well, there's a certain tier of curvebacks that are invited. You're there, McIntyre, Domit, all the big names.

24:35Don't ever greet me with those names again.

24:38Romesh Ranganathan:I'm joking. Oh, why is it so funny, the thought of Rick just dancing? Nobody knows Rick, so I don't know how funny anyone else will find this. Yeah. Rick's quite cool, by the way. Yeah. He's very cool. Yeah, very cool guy. By the way, I will say this with Rick. because I don't Rick but I think one of the first things Rick would do if he bought a house is put a blind or curtains on the desk that is what that definitely is he's got very strict morals about that yeah yeah so I've used him as an example but that bears no that's not fair it bears no that's one of the probably the most offensive things I've ever said in this podcast I hope that Rick doesn't or just use him as an example well there's stuff that we didn't put in the edit isn't there yeah anyhow what about when you kept on demanding to know why I thought I had a right to support England

25:27Romesh Ranganathan:that was fairly offensive wasn't it it was it was um here's a question for you um has katherine seen you poo no has katherine seen you wee yeah have you seen katherine poo no have you seen katherine wee yeah yeah but like i've walked past the top when she's yeah you've heard each other fart i see him yeah um if you go to a hotel there's a reason for all these questions not just for my own personal memory bank. But if you go to a hotel, occasionally the bathroom kind of unit in a hotel room provides no privacy because they're seeing the two people. Can I say that's a fucking... If you've been to the hotels where they've got a glass window, looking into the bathroom.

26:12Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. They're insane. Yeah, that's what I mean. Fucking idiots thought that was a good idea. I know, I know. But there's an architect, pervert. Architects No, that architect is a pervert It's a pervert I don't think it makes you perverted to draw the blueprint for it Yeah, but if you're going Oh, sorry mate Pervert enabler, I'd accept Yeah, it's a war going up here Pervert facilitator You're going to be staying together, aren't you? Yeah, you're staying together No one needs to look in and see someone having a crap I agree That's what I'm saying That's the whole point I'm raising By the way, I think if it is a very limited if you're in very close proximity which I've been in that situation.

26:52I think one of you has, I'll often go, well, I'm just going to go for a stroll and I'll use the toilet downstairs in the lobby. That's what I do. You have to.

27:01Romesh Ranganathan:In that situation, you have to. Yeah. And then I think you then both, there's almost a code. This is the moment we're both going to take a dump. Occasionally, they've got the ones where if you stay at quite a fancy place, I don't know how fancy this is, but where there's a switch to frost the glass. Yeah. But sometimes you've got to find that switch. But what I don't want to see is, what I don't want Lisa to see is a silhouette of me shitting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you seen Lisa drop a juice? No, no. Drop a juice to do so. Yeah. That's my fucking wife you're talking about. No, no, you asked me about mine.

27:33Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, I said in quite a gracious drop a juice.

27:41Romesh Ranganathan:Have you ever seen Catherine curl out a steamy fat one?

27:53Has she ever caught you, though? Caught me? No, like, you've got the door open. No, no, no, because I lock the door.

28:00Romesh Ranganathan:What, even when you're home on your own? If I'm taking a poop, the door locked. Okay. Has to be. Are you still phobic about doing it elsewhere, outside the house? No, I've started to try and get to grips with that a little bit, and I'm better at it than I was. I've come worse at it since I've known you. Really? I've come more, yeah. Well, we're probably approaching the same level, but it has to be I have to really be under the cosh yeah yeah yeah like for example for me to take a shit here no one else can be around probably Ben John well John feels like he can keep a secret well I don't want to say this on the podcast occasionally he's asked if I want to and if he could watch if that was the case or just listen in yeah but he asked it in a polite way he didn't say I find train toilets are ones that really throw me yeah and services yeah Yeah, but if you've ever had to go to the toilet and the services are low.

28:51It's awful, I thought.

28:52Romesh Ranganathan:I was on the train. Oh, on the train and you had a poo? Pardon? You had a poo on the train? No, but I was on the train not that long ago. And the guy that was, somebody was using the toilet, but had forgot to press the lock thing on the door. Yeah. And so I pressed the button and the door just revealed a complete stranger fucking in the middle of his business. Oh my God. He probably was like, oh, fucking hell, it's Romesh. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I took a selfie and then shut the door. Yeah. Could you shut the door from outside or did you have to do the thing where you put your No, he looked absolutely horrified.

29:25Of course, but then there's not a, the button to shut the door is in the inside, weirdly. I don't, I think he shut it.

29:33Romesh Ranganathan:I'm pretty sure he shut it. That's, that's a, because you've also got a whole carriage. What you don't want to do is go, let me shut it for you. And then suddenly you're in there with him. No, you've got to do that. Get that for you, mate. And a whole carriage can see him. that's a real there's no coming back from that no it's well people do the awful thing that people go yeah I would finish wash my hands open the toilet door jump straight out the window I think that's the only thing if that was your intent what you wash your hands and wipe your bum what's the point well because because if you die in the incident I don't want the police to find me with a shitty ass yeah but you you can't anyway I don't want them to go yeah we found a body 48 male has not wiped his ass.

30:20Romesh Ranganathan:And then Lisa's getting called, they pull the blanket and it fucking stinks.

30:28Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, he does smell. We think he might have taken a shit and not wiped his ass before he went. Like a weird dirty protest. That's a real, that's a bad one. That's a bad one. I've done it before. Like, yeah. Sort of walked in and, you know, so many men's tournaments especially around football tournaments locks just get kicked in and you open the door and someone's just sat there yeah I always found that it's a bad one what do you think it would take for you to take a shit at West Ham I'd sooner just I would actually I'm not just saying this I would rather and this sounds like an exaggeration I would rather shit my pants yeah than take a dump at Arsenal the theatre's the one that really when I went to watch your show I was actually dying for shit when I went to watch your theatre thing and I was like, I can't go.

31:15By the way, all toilets in theatres are terrible. Correct. I think they're so bad.

31:20Romesh Ranganathan:They're just, and there's not enough of them. I think there's a reason for that. Well, first of all, a lot of the old theatres. Everyone was smaller back in the old days. Yeah, exactly. So that's part of the issue there. Secondly, I think if I was designing a place like that, or if I was, you'd want the toilets to be unpleasant, to discourage people. So if somebody's 50-50 or they want to go or not, you want them to go into the toilet and go, I'm not taking a shit. Yeah. That's the idea, really. Yeah, but the fact is, as bad as they are, there's also so little of them. Like, when you go in there, there's like three urinals on one cubicle.

31:53And there's like, how many people sat in the theatre that you were playing? 650 something like that. 650 people. So the queue for the men's toilets is insane. Yeah. No, I get it. And you're fine, because you've got your dressing room, your luxury toilet and all that. Shared toilet. So you had a shared toilet? Yeah. What were the other guys?

32:11Romesh Ranganathan:No. I was sharing it with strangers in the street. No. Yeah, the other people in the cast. How many toilets have you had? There's one on each floor. Wow, fuck. I'd love to have come backstage with you and just had a little nose about. Did you have any pictures and stuff in your dressing room? Oh, I like that. Classy. I didn't have pictures. I had snacks and stuff. I did a film once with a guy who, in his trailer, he just, he put up all the things that he thought his character would have. He transformed his trailer. It was insane. It was quite cool, but it was fucking mad, like posters and sort of weird porn and stuff.

32:46Because they help him get into character? That's what he thought his character would be like. What do you think about that? It was a weird thing that Paddington did.

32:53Romesh Ranganathan:What do you think about people that do that? How much do you think that helps? I don't know how much it helps. I think there's a little bit of it that is... Because Brian Cox famously thinks it's bollocks. I'm sort of with him on it. Look, I think there's a fine line between it, but I'm like, how much of this, like having your trailer decked out exactly how your character would be is like going to help the fact that your performance, and by the way, it had the similar sized part in this film than I did. We weren't big, big characters in this movie. We were like both sort of peripheral characters.

33:28So, but even like, there was a tennis table competition we had, table tennis. and he wouldn't play because he didn't think his character played. So things like that, he was just very, very, I've never met anyone who played, he was so into his character and what his character was. And the porn was quite full on. Okay, so I thought you were joking, so he had porn. Yeah, porn on the wall. Like, yeah, no, no, no, serious. And then, yeah, I was like, and if I'm going to be quiet, I was like, there's nothing in your character from what I've read that would suggest that he'd be into this kind of pornography.

34:08This just feels kind of like... And there was quite a famous actress who was on set who would rip into him. She was like, what the fuck is he... What's he doing? I don't understand why he's got all these fucking weird pictures up. And yeah, it was a bizarre, bizarre thing.

34:24Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Will you find it weird if you work with him again? I've worked with him twice. And does his character always happen to be into niche porn? when he's working on the backstory the second film i don't think i don't think i saw his it wouldn't i it wouldn't have shocked me if he'd been he would but again in the second film which is actually now i've never really thought the second film he was really into character as well and that was even more bizarre because it was a far less uh it didn't feel the place for it necessarily yeah he was a he was a yeah quite an intense chap so are you two a bit of a double like now then would you say i'll tell you something for now right the thirstiness i'm i want to be everyone's friend i like to get on with people yeah i'm also very fucking i have a certain acumen for when someone i'm like oh this person fucking hates me yeah and the very idea of being in my orbit makes him want to be physically sick yeah uh i go as far to say is we couldn't be more opposite he hated it to the point where if i walked on the yeah like the dining bus i could see him going nah yeah he was just not a fan on both projects he was he and he didn't really hide it um but yeah i sort of and both times i you know i i'd weirdly i really the first time thought oh he's a character actor and he's really into his part at the moment maybe his character doesn't like my character and the second time around i went oh no he just thinks I'm a ****

36:02this is yeah this is very much a Tom thing

36:05Romesh Ranganathan:oh I'm sorry to I can't imagine anyone disliking you yeah it happens by the way yeah I'm not fucking I'm like you're open enough to go yeah that's just how it is I just don't understand anyone could I'm not genuinely I just don't understand how anyone could not like you oh no no I find you annoying at times yeah yeah but there's an ill wish you'd shut the **** up on occasion sure there's an ilk of person that that i'm like catnip to is it catnip is catnip the thing that catnip's the opposite yeah so what's it to me yeah um there's an ilk of person who who yeah who are disgusted by me and my yeah and he yeah you know we like you ever been in a situation when you're as an adult where you're like it's not like being bullied but you're like oh my god like these these people just really that and i got stuck with them at the premiere and they were like, you three are together for a photo.

36:54And they were both, oh, like that. And I've never just felt so uncut. And me being me, I'm just then trying to have a conversation. I know, and then you're trying to counteract it. Yeah, and just think, oh, maybe if I do this, they'll like me.

37:05Romesh Ranganathan:Maybe if I do this, they'll like me. I wish I had the thing that you're talking about to bring it back as a callback. I wish I'd gone, like, I'll get it. You know what I mean? But you don't even have to say, like, that's another thing that we could all be better at, I think, a little bit. most of us, is accepting if somebody doesn't like you. I'm fine with it. But my thing is, my point is, it's like, I actually don't like really either of you two, but the difference is, I'm trying to be nice and cordial still, rather than actually, what my intention should be and what I want to do in this situation is do what you're doing.

37:41Yeah. I don't really, you've both been unclear and pretty clear and pretty, you know, shown your feelings. You've not hidden away from the fact that you're not you know so but then I through the whole of it have just been like oh you know well you know what I'll just try and be nice because and actually by the end of it I thought I should just be I should just fucking kind of without saying I think you're a pair of pricks yeah be just fucking the same but I found myself still trying to be friendly yeah and cracking jokes yeah I'm sorry to say that bro that was fucking life innit I'm not fuck that guy have you have you had that situation where somebody doesn't like me no yeah what what's

38:28Romesh Ranganathan:the closest you've had to something like that no i've had it loads of times uh traitors anything like that what are you doing i'm just always trying to sniff them out traitors i just want to get little juicy bits i feel like we've got them by the way can i say other people are really fucking monetizing and getting on the top of the traitors thing already what do you mean what other fucking people have been in your series of trades already like you know not they're clearly carefully not dropping any information yeah i keep saying to people who've got oh romish has probably told you stuff about traitors i'm like let me tell you something about romish rank and atham hilarious guy law friend you're gonna do a bank job or you're gonna do a secret fucking operation can't run my strength and atham he signs an nda i've never known anyone like it he takes it for fucking would you say yeah the the ink is like sacred to him no it's not It's just the NDA's done.

39:19It's like, you have my word, I won't say a thing. And I respect that about you.

39:23Romesh Ranganathan:No, but that's not just the NDA. I don't think, you don't want to know. I don't want to know. Even when people think they want to know, they don't want to know. I love watching that show. Exactly. And can I say, when you're best friends in it, absolutely delicious. Mark me down for a place for two. Yeah. And also, not only Ross Kemp, I was there too. Do you know, do you know, So on the first, I think I can say this, early on in filming, we got papped doing one of the missions, right? And then I think they, so when we were filming, they got like, I don't think I'm, anyway, I can say this. Understandably, production were a bit like, fuck, do you know what I mean?

40:03Romesh Ranganathan:We don't want this all getting linked out. What I don't understand is, right, I don't understand the logic in doing it, right? What happened? in it? Well, what I mean is, pap it and then release, if you want to release the photos, release them later on, right? But the thing about traitors is, it's not, it's not the work, it's like, the enjoyment is watching the show, right? And the enjoyment is part of the surprise and all of that. But you're dealing with gossip. Yeah, why are you ruining that? Because in the modern society, everyone wants that power. And power is having a bit of gossip. Every time you walk into a room or every time you go into new surroundings, having a little bit of a tale or something to say.

40:42so whoever had those pictures is power right so so as soon as they're walking in they've got a something to give to people to be fair those pictures did nothing because it's the first day everyone's in the picture i mean like you say i probably i mean i'm not even in the fucking show and i can tell you now so many people have stopped me in the street or chatted me on trains or whatever and gone what has one gotten a traitor or did beckett send it about you people are obsessed with it i'm like i don't know anything but also i don't i don't want to know i like it's one of the best shows in the world and if you took out the excitement of series one Alan Carr winning and you knew Alan Carr was going to win you knew that Joe Marlow and Nick Muhammad were going to have all that it's dead and gone without the surprise and the fucking twists of that show it's not really a very good show that's what makes it an exceptional show so if you want to ruin it my point was I just want a little bit of the tea I just want a little taste or was there anyone in there who sort of like gave the old Ranganathan the sort of bareback?

41:49Romesh Ranganathan:I can't even guess at what you mean by that. There's anyone who gave you the old hedgehog's prick. No, but what I would say is you've got 21 people in the castle. So I think you get on with certain people but more than others. It's not that you don't like, but what you're saying is right. I am the wrong, I'm not just saying this based on traitors, I'm the wrong flavour for certain type of people. Do you know what I mean? For me, I sort of think to myself, I love you. And the idea that somebody wouldn't like you, it feels really weird to me. But the truth is, there's so many different types, you know, there's certain types of personality that just rub people up the wrong way.

42:36Romesh Ranganathan:Do you know what I mean? And so sometimes you have to accept that however you are is not someone's. But the thing is, we grow up wanting such validation that somebody not liking you, your instinct is, I want to make you like me, but it shouldn't be. It's just, we ain't supposed to be friends. You don't like me and that's fine. What you don't want to do then is, that's why I said when you went, what do I have to do to make you like me? It's so far from, and I know you were saying it as a joke, it's so far from how you should be thinking. Oh yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's like, because as soon as you start, and I'm not talking about basic politeness and consideration, I'm talking about your personality.

43:14Romesh Ranganathan:If your personality is not right for somebody, that's on them. Do you know what I mean? And I think like, we're all so guilty of going, I don't get it. I don't understand. I'm being really nice to this person. They just don't, they just don't vibe with you and that's fine. Do you know what? And it used to feel like, age is a good teacher of this and also it happened in before and you can beat the name up but and I've talked to you about this I don't know if I've talked to you I've met twice right on both situations I've really really tried to because it's right on both situations I've gone oh you can't you can't stand me you're only about what I'm about like you and that's fine I don't because why would he be if there's two polar opposites of people it's probably me and him, right?

44:04For me, I grew up watching him. I'm like, fucking hell, he's a legend, right? I'm like, what an incredible... But he's just not having me. And there was a time in my life that I'd have thought, oh, fucking hell, why? And it would have kept me up at night. Now I'm like, of course, why would he? Do you know what I mean? And also, fair enough to him. When I'm his age, and someone comes in, you go, oh, fucking hell, what a helmet this geezer is. Why are you making... Why are you going to make the time for it? Do you know what I mean? And so I get it. and I don't sit here feeling sorry for it. And I can be quite a big, not a big character.

44:37I know my own, you know, what would be an irritant to some people and what would be annoying to some people. And likewise, when people say to me about you, they're like, if people fight with you, they go, oh yeah, I thought he was quite serious. I said, well, he's one of the least serious people I know. But also it's like, he might have just been having, like, he might have just been having an off date or quite a lot of the time, he's a really good listener and he's actually taking in what you're saying and you might be just misappropriating his body language but he's like I've known a guy for like fucking for what 15 years sometimes I'm talking to him and I go I'm thinking fucking and I know he loves me but it's like he's just taking it in that's why I think you've done very well in traitors by the way you've got no idea I've got no idea and this is what I love about it I'd be speculating with anyone but I think if you knew the rules of poker and how to play poker which I don't know if you do you'd be fucking a nightmare at a poker table this is the difference of me and you at poker right you get a good hand you get a bad hand I get a good hand I get a bad I get a bad hand

45:54that's the difference yeah

45:58Romesh Ranganathan:right Tomo it's about that time thank you well it's been a joy thank you for riding along it's been real fun I've enjoyed I've enjoyed this one me too yeah it's been like a delve in it's like being a sort of like deep dive yeah a deep dive into spirit and yeah I could actually this one could have gone for another hour yeah let's not let's wrap it up yeah I actually got real impact I just want to stroke your face for a little bit you know like when you see a nice cat or a nice dog you don't want to give that dog or cat a stroke that's how I feel about you right now ok why don't we wrap this up and we can see about you can strike my face now if you want come and bring it that's nice soft beard what are you using your beard it is actually what is it Tom Ford tobacco vanille oh wow I love a Tom Ford beard well anyhow opportunity knocks every now and again but is it not or does it silently come into the room like a ghost or a shadow see seldom you realize the times of opportunities in a room sometimes it can just be in the form of another person eyeballing over or maybe in the form of some food you've never tried go back to last week's opportunity can sometimes come at you in very different ways what are you supposed to do have a big net so you can catch your opportunity where it arises like a fisherman on the banks of a wily river or a sea fisherman on the banks of a wily sea

47:35or a horse rider looking for a horse and jumping on the back of it see those are physical things but opportunity seldom is it's more spiritual so what do you do do you let opportunity pass well sometimes you have to friend sometimes you gotta let it go because the opportunity wasn't for you there's someone else in the room who had a quicker net alas a saddle ready to put on the back of that broad horse sometimes it's up to you though when you see an opportunity to go hey pete hey sue notice you've got a bit of opportunity there mind if I jump in and share it see some opportunities aren't just for one person they're for everyone and that's the thing about life we learn a lot jumping in alone but we learn a heck of a lot more jumping in together

48:27Romesh Ranganathan:fucking hell you managed to pull something quite profound out of a real sack of shit there yep that last bit I've actually been proud of I think that might be my best ending for a while I've got no idea how much sea fishing happens on the banks. We should probably look that up at some point. Thank you so much for listening and watching the Wolf and Al podcast. Please give you a like and subscribe for your benefit, not ours. It does help us out. It's a mutually beneficial situation. If not, Johnny's coming for you. The coyote roars. Okay, bye.

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