In short
Romesh and Tom Davis discuss side quests that become “main quests”: planning a country album (heartbreak lyrics, possible collabs like Dermot Kennedy), booking tattoos, and building bucket lists. They joke about tattoo ideas including a “Mount Rushmore of comedians” on Tom’s calf and planned Wolf and Al tattoos (plus a cat drawing and a Charlie signature).
Key claims
heartbreak is the hardest thing, but they workshop it by comparing it to other hard tasks (e.g., opening crisps, skateboarding). Tom wants an intensive driving course due to legroom and time. They debate theme parks: Legoland and Thorpe Park are defined by intense queues, fast-track controversy, and mishaps (LegoLand water ride splashing a child; missing ice cream at Ben & Jerry’s).
Notable examples
Machu Picchu, Great Wall, Coliseum, and a “Three Peaks” challenge with Josh, Rob, and possibly Ed Gamble/Acasta.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCamo, Fashion, and Identity
0:45 to 3:00
Hosts discuss personal style choices and the significance of clothing.
“That would be more true if I'd been wearing white.”
Romesh's Musical Aspirations
3:00 to 6:00
Romesh shares thoughts about a potential country album and songwriting.
“I think, by the way, I think you should do it.”
Collaborations and Inspirations
6:00 to 9:00
Discussion on musical collaborations and influences in country music.
“Yeah, but that's, by the way, I sound a bit like it's a comedy album.”
Tattoo Ideas and Bucket Lists
10:00 to 13:00
Hosts explore tattoo ideas and share their bucket list aspirations.
“Marcus, friend of the show, good guy Marcus.”
Learning to Drive
13:00 to 14:02
Tom discusses his desire to learn driving and the challenges he faces.
“Because no, you need the dual pedals, don't you?”
Initial Banter About Driving
14:02 to 15:00
The hosts share a lighthearted conversation about driving experiences.
“Had a friend that was learning to drive and wanted to do it in town.”
Discussion on Bucket Lists
15:01 to 15:40
Romesh and Tom explore the concept of bucket lists and their own lack thereof.
“It's just how you sort of like sexually put your tongue back in your mouth.”
Planning Adventures and Challenges
15:41 to 17:08
Romesh reveals his upcoming Three Peaks Challenge and discusses adventure plans.
“What a way to tell someone that you're not doing the Three Beats Challenge.”
The Nightclub Idea
17:09 to 19:16
The hosts brainstorm a nostalgic nightclub pop-up idea for their audience.
“now we've actually got some kindling for the Dream Factory.”
Theme Park Experiences
19:17 to 21:54
Romesh shares his chaotic experience at Legoland, including long queues and family dynamics.
“Oh my God, this is actually a fucking idea.”
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Fast Track Experiences and Gift Discussions
21:55 to 28:01
The conversation shifts to discussing fast track passes at theme parks and a personal gift situation for Romesh.
“because yeah I know fuck knows anyway it's a good business idea yeah mate this is exciting this is exciting times have you been to Legoland?”
The Gift and Its Inscription
28:01 to 29:51
Discussing the anxiety related to a misspelled name on a gift.
“And I'm going, this is like, most of the time I pick you up about it and go, his name's not that.”
The Thrill of Theme Parks
29:51 to 30:24
Reflecting on the experience of visiting Thought Park and roller coasters.
“I enjoy giving more than I than receiving.”
The Roller Coaster Experience
30:24 to 32:26
Sharing thoughts on different roller coasters and scares at theme parks.
“Second of all, that Hyperia is up there with the roller coaster we went to in Florida.”
Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream Experience
32:26 to 35:38
Discussing a disappointing experience at a Ben & Jerry's stand at the park.
“that goes through a thing where a kid's...”
The Ethics of Ice Cream Brands
35:38 to 36:46
Comparing Ben & Jerry's and Haagen-Dazs and their marketing practices.
“And he went, yeah, they're real marshmallows but they're just selling for display.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hey guys, welcome to the world for now, a podcast which is for us. It's Romesh and Big Tom, you know, their best friends till the end. Romesh, he's full of brainy ideas, and Tom, he's big and goofy.
0:17Romesh Ranganathan:Wolf is the Tom Davis, I'm the ass.
0:25Romesh Ranganathan:yeah yeah what you want beak or jaws feathers or fur sharp teeth or feet with claws whatever's preferred just kidding every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog how are you i'm good i'm good my guy really good to see you it's good to see you it's good um you know because you're in camo yeah do you have people go all right start talking to a floating head. That would be more true if I'd been wearing white. I wear a lot of camo. You do? You love camo? I do love camo. But you get a lot of shit for it. Yeah, yeah. A lot of shit. Do you know what I wish I could wear more of is leopard print.
1:00I think you could. Yeah, I know. There's not enough men's stuff in leopard print.
1:04Romesh Ranganathan:Do you know what I've got? A fur coat. What? That I haven't had the guts to wear. Fake fur. Just in case pets are getting in touch. Yeah, of course there's a vegan. Peter. Completely insane if you had a real fur jacket. It'd be crazy. What are we dealing with? like a bomber jacket or a sort of no full three quarter length wow blue fur you should wear that with no top underneath in a chain when's your album coming out I don't know I've lost confidence in it man I'm thinking of doing an album like a country and western I genuinely am there's a few things now that I'm like you know what fuck it yeah I looked at Gary Neville as you're getting less busy yeah you're finding time to do other stuff side quests side quests have now become main quests I'm looking at a sitcom that's run out of storylines I'm having this that's a place with new characters no I watched Gary Neville the other day talking about it was his 50th yeah and he was talking about his bucket list so I'm thinking oh look there's some stuff that I've been putting off for a while that I'm going to do so what would your country in West Sudan what sort of stuff would we it's all about heartbreak yeah I guess I wish I've got a whole life load of stuff but I try and make it a little bit more relatable yeah are you singing yeah okay I'm going to sing but I try to get other people involved.
2:17Yeah, yeah.
2:18Romesh Ranganathan:And by the way, I can't imagine there'll be any shortage of collaborators. The only thing is I don't know enough people from that community. So would you go like Post Malone, Dolly Parton? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beyonce did a country album, didn't she? No, I'm not going to go with Beyonce. Oh. It's wrapped up with some funny old business at the moment. Oh, I see, yeah. I don't want to release an album and have that kind of heat coming at me. Yeah, you can call it baby oil. Was she at the Diddy parties? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Is that true? Yeah, yeah. That's a shame. Yeah. Because I love Beyonce, by the way.
2:48Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Yeah. What's your favourite Beyonce song? Who Runs the World. Good. I like that. Yeah. No, actually, no. I lie. If I was a boy, baby, just for one day. Yeah. I love that song. I'm excited about this country album. I'm really concerned about it. Have you thought about any songs? I think, by the way, I think you should do it. Yeah. I'd love us to do like a collab. That would be amazing. A country hip hop song. Yeah. like I'm just sort of doing quite a sort of melancholy quite a sweet song and you burst out of a birthday cake in your fur jacket and you just sort of like hit some right yeah like Limp Bizkit kind of thing yeah oh who would go something like that yeah yeah the only thing with doing a country western album like country album is do you think I should then put the American twang on yes okay you put that on yourself I don't do it for hip hop no no but that's different yeah I think country and western with the British accents.
3:46Do you know who I want to reach out to, Dermot Kennedy? You should. If he'll help me. Yeah, it'd be good to get a block from him. He's one of my favourite artists. I love him. And he's a big Wolf and Our fan. He's an incredible singer. Yeah. But yeah, so that's one of the things where I'm like, okay.
4:03Romesh Ranganathan:He's not country and western though, you know. No, no, but he's got that ilk to him. Yeah, sure. So I'm thinking whether I think, sit back, maybe I'll write a song for another episode. I'll bring it in here. Really good idea. Yeah. or I'll record it sort of at home. Really good idea. I know he's probably someone who can play the guitar. Yeah. Could you just give me a burst of what that might sound like? Heartbreak is the hardest thing. It's the hardest thing, old friend. Heartbreak is the hardest thing. It will kill you in the end. Ready to soundtrack your summer? With Red Bull Summer All Day Play, you choose a playlist that fits your summer vibe the best.
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5:05Maybe it's more musical theater, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I like that. Yeah, well, heartbreak is the hardest thing. is the hardest thing, old friend. Heartbreak is the hardest thing. It'll kill you in the end. Should it be more American? Yeah, yeah, really nice, yeah.
5:22Romesh Ranganathan:It's quite on the nose, I'd say. What you need to be. Well, it's just, you know, obviously you're doing a song about... So what about, so, so, why do you think the hardest thing? Okay, that's... The hardest thing, old friend. Is it heartbreak that's the hardest thing? It'll kill you in the end. no but what you're supposed to do like country and western songs yeah they'll give an example of other things that are hard okay yeah yeah and then opening a bag of crisps yeah yeah there you go or carrying the bins yeah to open in some cellotane when you just cut your fingernails you know yeah heartbreak is the hardest no no no okay okay okay skateboarding is hard I think I've never tried it Bill
6:14skateboarding is the hardest thing i never tried it bill and trying to do a somersault that'll make you ill but heartbreak is the hardest thing it's the hardest thing old man
6:26Romesh Ranganathan:no but i think i think what you do is yeah you list all those this is what i think if we're going to workshop this okay so you list all these things that are quite difficult yeah and then you You go, and then as you build up to the chorus, you go, all of those things are really hard to do, but not one of those things as hard as breaking up with you. Yeah, but that's, by the way, I sound a bit like it's a comedy album. Why? I want it to be really heartfelt. Well, heartbreaking. I met a girl called Claire, old friend. Claire was really nice. Okay. She could run really fast. Can I tell you what it sounds like?
7:02Romesh Ranganathan:It sounds like a song from Sesame Street.
7:08Romesh Ranganathan:This is what I mean. I need someone to add. Look, we've got some core themes and common tropes. Okay. Nostalgia and home. Intense focus on missing home and upbringing. So just give us a line from that. Yeah, okay. All right, all right. I had a friend called Earnot Friend.
7:24My friend in school had a Game Boy. He played it all day long. I couldn't afford a Game Boy. So I made one out of a box. okay so it's not going to rhyme no I couldn't think of anything okay yeah um uh what could rhyme as strong long yeah pong dong yeah yeah
7:49go on
7:54what was the word I use I had a friend I had a friend called Neil it's called I had a friend called Neil You had a Game Boy Played it all day long I couldn't afford a Game Boy So I had to play with my dong
8:11Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, God. It's such a long walk for that. And you were sort of struggling to say it because you were finding it so funny. The funny thing is... By the way, is every song going to start I had a friend called? No, this is the song I'm working on. It's the same song. All right. Heartbreak and Drinking. Okay, Heartbreak and Drinking. I had a friend I had a friend called Robbie He drank all day long I had a friend called Robbie He used to drink a lot He used to drink Used to drink it
9:12Romesh Ranganathan:oh god okay okay all right i think that's enough we don't need to do any more of those yeah i think it's good so that's one of the things i'm really looking at doing so anyone who can help me at all yeah like people are in a band uh you know lyric wise i think i'm sort of nearly there yeah um He's got the lyrics for every song on the album. I think the album should be called I Had a Friend. Yeah, I don't think you can call it anything else but that. And then it's different You Had a Friend's, but they all do different shit.
9:46So that's one of the things. Another one that we've been texting about, I'm thinking like I've been really putting off tattoos for a while. I'm now in a place, I've booked one to be done. Have you? Yeah.
9:58Romesh Ranganathan:Well, haven't you booked with my guy? I'm going to book with your guy as well. Okay, what are you getting done? Marcus, friend of the show, good guy Marcus. I'm having my Mount Rushmore of comedians put on my calf. Okay. So do you need me to send you a photo? I was actually genuinely going to get it. Are you going to do it from memory? All joking aside, do you know that one you used to have of you? Like the cartoon sort of like, it was like the face with the eyes and the glasses and the hair. It was like you had caps, I think. I was thinking of getting that somewhere on my body. Oh my God. Here's the thing.
10:26Grace drew a picture on my leg the other day. Yeah, of what? It's just a little face of a cat. Yeah. And I took a picture of it.
10:33Romesh Ranganathan:You know I've got Charlie's signature on it. Yeah, I want to do that. And then I want something designed for my shoulder. That's a great idea. And then I want a Wolf and Al one. So this is what we're, we are getting Wolf and Al tattoos, aren't we? John's getting one as well. We haven't discussed it with him. JT's getting one as well, hasn't he? JT should get one. And Ben has a tramp stamp. Yeah, on his back. just above his ass where his ass crack starts so every time he's on holiday because he wears that big gold chain on holiday yeah he loves it doesn't he open shirt big gold chain I had a friend called Ben Ben sweet green oh that's it I did have another it's just that when people do that it's normally because they've got an idea yeah but I went to I've got yeah I had a friend called Ben you know wore a shirt undone I've got it's quite difficult isn't it it's quite harder than you think yeah okay so we're going to get wolf in our tattoos what else is on your bucket list learning to drive right and that's inspired by Theo since you mentioned Theo learning to drive yeah I'm like damn I've got to do this yeah yeah so but you know what I've contacted a few places and I want to do the intense course yeah it's the least safe way to do that yeah yeah yeah but that's sort of I think going forward whether it's probably the driver I want to be.
11:55Yeah, I do. I'm sort of looking to be. God, it would be sad if I'm killed in a car crash, wouldn't it, years later?
12:00Romesh Ranganathan:I think even if you hadn't said it, it'd be sad if you died in a car crash. I don't think people would go, I did hear Tom Davis died in a car crash. It doesn't sound that sad. Yeah. Tell you what is sad. He talked about it on the podcast. Yeah. He wrote that song. Well, now it feels like a sad thing. I had a friend called Tom Old Friend. Learning to drive. A car. Little did Thomas know he was not long to stay alive because he died in that car crash. Body turned to ash. He died in that car crash. I break his adult friend.
12:37Yeah, so learning to drive is one. It's really hard to try and find a car that's got enough leg room to drive in. Yeah.
12:43Romesh Ranganathan:So when you're looking for a driving instructor, do you have to specify? Yeah, because most cars that people learn to drive in are quite, by nature, small ones. so have you do you own a car yeah katherine's got a car okay so have you tried to get behind the steering wheel of that yeah but yeah that's like a bit of a bigger car right okay fine so it's like i'm just trying to find one so i don't know if there's wolf and alfred people out there anyone knows anyone who's got a slightly sort of elongated sort of car that you know i'll be able to what are you talking about so what you can you need a hearse no but you need a car that's not like Yeah, but could you learn in Catherine's car?
13:20Because no, you need the dual pedals, don't you?
13:22Romesh Ranganathan:Right, so get a driving... There must be people that do driving lessons. I've looked and I can't find one who does an intense course. For your size? Yeah. Okay, fine. If there's anybody out there that does a driving course for like freaks, wolfowlpod.gmail.com. Yeah. Tom wants to learn to drive and he doesn't want to spend ages, okay? He's waited 47 years. I want to get it done as big as possible. And now he wants to get it done quickly. Yeah. Okay. I think also it's just time-wise when you're busy, you just think. No, I get it. I could back this out in like, yeah, two weeks. I understand. Yeah.
13:56Romesh Ranganathan:How long does intensive driving cost? You do it a week or two. A week? So every day for a week you do it and then you do a driving test? Yeah. Eight hour shifts, mate. Okay. Had a friend that was learning to drive and wanted to do it in town. That's it. Learned to drive in a long old, a long old Mercedes-Benz. There you go. There you go. Nothing was long enough, long enough for his legs. So he had to borrow and beg, old friend. He had to beg. Okay, that was... Yeah, that was... He had to borrow and steal. Yeah, no, you were trying to make it a scam, so you just developed a stutter. It's fair. It's a tactic.
14:41Romesh Ranganathan:Anyway, wolffabpod.gmail.com, we'd love to hear from you. Here's a weird situation that I'm in. I don't have any bucket list. Yeah, but you've done so much stuff. No, that's not true. You've travelled the world. That's another one for me. I've not travelled enough. That sounded like I'm doing a flex. What I'm saying... Well, yeah, because you went like that. I haven't got any bucket lists. I didn't do it like that. You went... Okay, you went... I haven't got any bucket lists. Is the impression got a lisp now? No. It's just how you sort of like sexually put your tongue back in your mouth. Look, what can I say?
15:12Romesh Ranganathan:I don't have anything left to achieve. Look, you must have things. No, I don't. You have nothing left. No. So now I'm thinking, like, what am I doing? What's the point of men? You've got to... What is the point? There's loads of pointing you. No, but what I mean is, you know... You smell nice. Yeah, but that's not... My bucket list can't be continued to smell nice. No, but you've got to look at something. Right. Okay, like, wouldn't you want to climb, like, a big mountain? I am doing that with a few friends. When? I'm doing a three-peach challenge with a few friends. We were going to do the three-peach challenge.
15:41Romesh Ranganathan:I know, but I've actually found... Okay, so we've got some suggestions. Wow. What a way to tell someone that you're not doing the Three Beats Challenge. I could do it with you as well. Jesus. Which friends? It doesn't matter. What? What do you mean? Who are they? Who are these people? Is it Josh? It's Josh and Rob. We're not just Josh and Rob. Acastra and Ed Gamble might join as well. We're doing like a double act podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't think you'd want to go. I didn't think it really applied to you. Are you going on your own? you're flying solo see the northern lights ugly husband in the fuck anyway you've seen the northern lights right yeah overrated the seven wonders of the world including the Machu Palace Machu Picchu the Great Wall of China and the Coliseum I've seen the Coliseum not done the Great Wall or Machu Picchu go on a safari done that can I say these are so external what do you mean they're just very like what about self oh sorry let's do an internal one have a colonoscopy what are you talking about no I'm just saying what about self oh these are personal great write a book or a screenplay okay yeah run a marathon done that learn a new language learn a new language it's not bad yeah that would be quite fun to do perform on stage yeah okay wow you've done you've done loads of these write a screenplay yeah I've done that I mean what I would say okay now we've actually got some kindling for the Dream Factory.
17:13Romesh Ranganathan:Do a film, I guess. But I'm not dying to do that. Wow. It must be so nice to just not think about these things. Okay. Lifestyle and appearance. See the Olympics. Attending, I mean, I don't, I think that's it. Attend Carnival in Rio. That'd be nice. Yeah, you'd love that. But it's not bucket list, is it? Yeah, you'd love that, by the way. Why? I actually think that's a version of you that I'd love to see. What, Carnival Rom? Yeah. Just losing your mind. Do you really like it? Is it wicked? I think you're thinking of the carnival in Croydon. No, I just think like... Is it a carnival in Rio? No, but like you and Rio just shouting that out.
17:51Romesh Ranganathan:Do you think the carnival in Rio is like Blue Orchid? I think everywhere should be trying to be a bit more like Blue Orchid. Do you know what? So clubbing's dying, isn't it? Yeah, it's sad. I like... I used to complain about them all the time. But do you know when you go somewhere like a shit nightclub? Yeah. It's so underrated, isn't it? I haven't been for years. oh my god do you know what actually I think that's a good business idea what recreating for people of our age yeah the shit nightclub experience I mean I'm happy to sort of say I'll go into it but I'm a little bit worried that I turn my back and then you're doing it with I don't know like whoever some other fucking comedian I can't think of it's this lack of improv skills that is the reason that I'm not doing the three peaks with you because you'll be improv-ing all the way up there no I'm doing the three peaks with you I'm only messing around Okay, but anyhow, the nightclub, that is actually a seriously good idea.
18:41Romesh Ranganathan:That is a good idea. Yeah. Like, you know... And you have to do it in a... Yeah. Like, you know they do that Karen's Diner. Is it called Karen's Diner? You know, this is the thing we should do. We should do it as a one night only. Pop-up? A pop-up, old school, 90s nightclub that we run. Yeah, and we call it like some shit name. Because you know what would be really sick? What? Is they always had the two dance rooms. They always had the two rooms. And then each of us could curate one of the rooms. You have the hip-hop call, that room. I'll have my room with the power ballads and the classics and the old sort of 70s.
19:11Romesh Ranganathan:Mate, this is actually a fucking good idea. Mate, it's a sick idea. We could call it the Wolf and Al Popper. We get Hooch, Bacardi, Brick, yes. Oh my God, this is actually a fucking idea. The Wolf and Al nightclub for one night only. This is a fucking sick idea. We should do it this summer. Oh my God. Like a festival vibe. You heard it here first. Wolf and Al. If you're interested in this. No, no, no, don't do this. No, no, no, we should do this. What do you mean if you're interested? We know everything. We could do this. Yeah, but what are you saying if you're interested in this? What do you want them to do?
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19:39Romesh Ranganathan:Sign up for the mailing list. What mailing list? We've got mailing lists, haven't we, John? No. Okay, well, we'll... This is... I mean, already... I'm so excited. Now, already I'm starting to lose faith in this. Mate, we could do this. You've asked them to sign up for a mailing list that doesn't exist. Yeah, but this would be cool. Okay, I think we should... I'm actually serious we should do it. I'm serious. This is mad. By the way, like, the thought of, you know, you get Bacardi Breezers, Hoochies. Yeah. mate the music will what time do you know I'll have Percy with me you've got Martin Too Smooth with you Percy's great for what time would we go from until I think you've got to do I've got to say I respect what you did the other week 3 till 9 yeah 3 till 9 3 till 9 is a good time then everyone can get off and you can have a nice dinner yeah grab a Nando's or a Pizza Express I think there should be a thing because what I do realise at this time in their lives is that some people are like I'd like to come but I'm going to come on my own.
20:36We have it with the Wolf and Our Lives. You have people. With my show sometimes, people will message me and go, I'm just here on my own. And they feel quite vulnerable. I think there should be like a support. If you're coming on your own, you can meet up with other people. There's a bit of a group.
20:50Romesh Ranganathan:No, but I think Wolf and Our Audience, it'll be fine. Yeah, I think it'll be nice. I think we'll attract the sort of people. Where would you want to do it? I think we go small. Yeah. Because we've got no idea what the appetite is for this. I mean, first of all, we're only advertising it to a non-existent mailing list. So that limits the numbers quite a bit. Yeah, but there's two rooms we need. I don't think there's two rooms. I think we go back to back. Okay. So I think we could do one room and then you and I just sort of blend sets. Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah. And then we take turns and there's like the time hour and whatever.
21:21Romesh Ranganathan:Okay, sweet. Yeah? Yeah. This is actually happening. I'm being serious. Mate, I'm all over this. Yeah, unless somebody else wants to do it with me. Hello, Ed. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, no, he can't hear you. this is exciting yeah really exciting a business venture for the ages yeah yeah this is great I think we do it in Croydon yeah if you want to do it in Croydon yeah if there's a suitable venue if you're in Croydon you know a suitable venue wolfhabpod.gmail.com or join the main list and then if it works I'll tell you what we could do I'll tell you what if it works yeah we could the next time we do a tour we could then do an after party mate that'd be sick or a pre-party because yeah I know fuck knows anyway it's a good business idea yeah mate this is exciting this is exciting times have you been to Legoland?
22:03Romesh Ranganathan:yeah What did you think? What's your problem with Legoland? I liked it. Why do you say, what do you think? The queuing was insane. It's the most intense queuing I've ever done. Well, the last time I went to Legoland, we had, Lisa and I had an argument. Wow. You queue to get into the car park. Yeah. Right? And then you queue to get into the park. Yeah. And then we decided we were going to get fast track. I think it's called queue something. Yeah. so then there was a queue for that so we'd done two queues and then i was in my third queue before going on a single ride then i found i think it's called q bot or something then i found a qr code and if you downloaded that you didn't have to queue up to pay for the fast pass wow so i downloaded that and then i said to lisa i've got great news we don't have to queue here because i've just downloaded the thing and then lisa said i think she's a bit pissed off for me at this stage she goes well why have we been queuing up then oh that was her immediate response and I said to her because I didn't realise that was the situation you can buy that on the app now yeah and then she walked away from me wow because like we'd had a bit of a narc and then as she walked away there's a guy going difficult theme parks aren't they can I have a photo he'd watched the whole argument do you know I find that a weird thing by the way I said this to Catherine recently we're at a point now we can't even have a little squabble out you know even about the mildest thing because you're aware because you're so famous no no where people were watching Do you know what I mean?
23:32And you know, like, you know, so you sort of like, as soon as anything becomes a bit like, like if there's sort of like a mild argument sort of like fluffing in the air. You've got to be careful. Yeah. You've got to be, if you're recognisable, you've got to be real careful with that shit. I would say with the queuing thing, I didn't do the fast track because I was like, there's only a limited amount of things that I'll be able to go with Grace. How tall is Grace?
23:53Romesh Ranganathan:She's not, 1.4 is the key height really. Yeah, she's nowhere near 1.4. So she, so I stupidly took her my nephew and Catherine and me all went on to the water ride thing I made the mistake of getting off getting on at the back so the whole boat went like that and it was really screechy like Catherine was like I don't know if we're going to be able to get up the thing because it was so like but as soon as we went around Grace was quite excited about the water ride until she got splashed in the face by a rat by a rat? You know the rats the Lego rats. Oh right yeah yeah So she was soaking in and she was like, I hate this.
24:29And then you know that it's going to get worse and worse. So she's crying as we're going around. Yeah. Catherine and me are both quite panicked to this point that we won't make it up. Sure. Or we'll get halfway up the sort of slide to go to the big drop. And we'll fall back and sort of take out the people behind us. But it was 120 minutes for the queue to get onto this thing.
24:49Romesh Ranganathan:Why did you not fast track? I was like, no, we got there. It was 50 minutes and it just got longer and longer. So you queued up for two hours? To get on this thing. That's the big portion of your day gone. So we got on that, and then we went on this little roller coaster. I thought, oh, this will be all right. I'm on a fast track on this because the queue didn't look that big. Pretty much another hour on that queue. And no one warned me. When I got on with Grace, no one warned me the fact that it was made for tiny children. So I nearly decapitated myself from there. No one said, oh, you probably best you duck when you go around the corner there, mate.
25:20Romesh Ranganathan:It doesn't sound like, if I'm being honest with you, you enjoyed Lego Land that way. No, I enjoyed being there. Look, I loved the submarine thing. met actually two lovely Wolf and Our fans who came to our shows really nice people very kind good Welsh people I enjoyed that which is as you often say is rare isn't it no you prick what you're such a sneak what do you mean I love the Welsh yeah those two Welsh no I love the Welsh anyway carry on the Welsh are delicious people right so you've got so we enjoyed the submarine bit I enjoyed the water ride I've got to say that's why Grace didn't really like that and I know in general I like the ambience of the place I will say that I enjoyed, I like being around people, having a bit of a laugh.
26:00Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of my favorite things in a queue is to complain and have a laugh with the people you're queuing with. Yeah. Yeah, okay. At one point I ran off and got some people some drinks. That's quite nice. Did you? Yeah. I got some drinks with the people around me.
26:13Romesh Ranganathan:I went to Thorpe Park with Charlie. Oh, I love this. So Lisa, Alex and Theo went to Lanzarote on holiday. Yeah. with their group. Charlie couldn't leave the country because of the ongoing court case. No, because he was on call for Oliver. Yeah. So we had a lads holiday, like a little lads weekend. Yeah, staycation. Staycation, yeah. So I took him to Thought Park. Yeah. String fellas. I got the fast track. Now, fast track is quite controversial. I've talked about fast track on this show before. Yeah, you have. and I got abused for it yeah because it's a lot of money you know at Lego by the way you can do fast track I didn't realise until later when you're on fast track so individually yeah so I got the fast track for the day yeah I got heckled quite a lot because obviously it's annoying if you're queuing up yeah the full queue and then you see some fucking twat yeah like just getting to the front and also I'll Rommet like loads of people going oh my god surprise surprise Rommet Shranganathan's got fast track do you know what I mean stuff like that I say that, it wasn't what they said, it was Ramesh or...
27:24The Ramesh thing. I know it winds you up. But recently, like, so for your birthday, I got you a gift. Thank you so much. But let's talk about this. I'm not going to bring this up. You'll talk about it in a minute. But as a part of that gift, I wanted to have something ascribed on it for you. So I've chatted to this guy who gets these things, what the gift is. As I'm chatting to him, I'm like, oh, this is for my friend Ramesh. And he went, oh, Ramesh. I'm a big fan of Ramesh. And I went, it's Ramesh. And then he's like, okay. And then we're having this conversation and in every bit of the conversation, he's spelling your name R-A-M-A-S-H.
28:04Romesh Ranganathan:R-A-M-A? Yeah. Like Ramesh? Yeah, Ramesh. Yeah. Yeah. R-A-M. Yeah, Ramesh. And I'm going, this is like, most of the time I pick you up about it and go, his name's not that. Yeah. In this situation, I'm like, this guy's having to inscribe your name onto the gift. A gift that I hope will stay in your life for a long time. And I don't want the gift, every time you look at it, to be a... So I'm having to go, please, can you just... This is how you spell his name. Yeah. In capital letters. And then he'd come back. I'm not sure if he was joking or... And he'd go, all right, okay. And he was like, I bet Ramesh is gutted at the moment about the football.
28:42I was like, yeah, that... his name is, like, your name is to inscribe this. Like, it's what is a beautiful, what I think a nice gift turned into a fucking slap in the face if his name's spelt wrong.
28:59So up until you got it and you send it to me, I had such anxiety that he got it wrong. I think it's funny
29:06Romesh Ranganathan:that he got it wrong, though. When I look, Lisa and I had a laugh about it. No, it's beautiful. You got me this beautiful, framed, signed Thierry Henry's shirt a little inscription at the back on the front sorry I shared it on Instagram but I only showed the picture of the thing of the inscription and people thought you got me a gravestone is that what people thought? yeah or a memorial park who the fuck bought some of that? I don't know I don't know but that's what people said it looked like wow anyway thank you it's one of the nicest gifts I've ever got in my life well it was a big thank you for getting it one of the nicest gifts I've ever received in my life so thank you a very special person.
29:44Romesh Ranganathan:I look forward to pretending I'm going to repay the gesture and forget it. I don't give to receive. I said, it's Catherine's I don't, no, no. It's Catherine's 40th this year. Yeah. Do you know when it comes to presents? I enjoy giving more than I than receiving. Can I just say, that's handy. It's like compliments. I much prefer giving them out rather than receiving them. I know you love giving them, mate. Fucking hell. It's disgusting. anyway thought park fast track yeah went on all the roller coasters i am i'm starting to as i get older yeah which i have been doing my entire life but what i'm saying is i've moved into the yeah yeah i'm approaching old man phase yeah yeah old man rum yeah yeah uh you you you sort of start to think this is stupid that i'm getting on this roller coaster you know like Charlie wanted to go on all the really hardcore ones.
30:45Romesh Ranganathan:We went on Hyperia. That's the most... That is... First of all, Thought Park is sick. Second of all, that Hyperia is up there with the roller coaster we went to in Florida. That is an amazing ride. Saw can fuck off. What's wrong with Saw? That's the only one I didn't enjoy. It's like... It's a personal thing. I don't like jerky I don't like a roller coaster we have to see an osteopath afterwards and that's what Saul was do you know what I mean it's like just cranking around and all that I didn't like that went on the ghost train yeah scary ghost train is like you get on it's like a southeastern train yeah and then the two guys that are running the train get possessed and then like demons appear and shit wow yeah it's pretty funny what actors no real demons they get demons no no but there's two actors doing it yeah I always find that that's like because you know that they're not real, right?
31:42You know that they're not actually real. Yeah. Yeah. I always find that sometimes.
31:46Romesh Ranganathan:You find it a bit egg? I just find it's a tough one. I know, I know. When you've been in Wonka and Paddington, who gives a fuck about other actors trying to get some work whenever they can? What you're talking about is going on something like Saw or something that's really terrifying. Yeah. And then you've got a guy going, tickets please.
32:03I've been possessed. That is what happens. Yeah, I know. That's exactly what happens. Then you go, oh shit, sorry. And then you feel like you're... Mind the doors, please. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. And then you're like... And then you have to go... I quite enjoyed it.
32:19Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, you enjoy it, but it's not as terrifying as... No, but it's not supposed to. They can make... Listen, that's the thing. It's like sometimes you're one of these people that goes through a thing where a kid's... A family theme park. Yeah. Right? You sit on the train and they do some shit and then the kids go, oh my God, or whatever. And then you get blokes going, didn't find that scary at all. Fucking hell. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you something. If they wanted to make you shit yourself, they could. There's a place in Blackpool where they fucking do, mate. You go to the Blackpool one, they terrify you.
32:50They chase you around, they grab you. It's like terrifying. Where are you going in Blackpool? There's a Blackpool. I don't know if it's still there. It went in years, like a haunted house thing. They've got Freddy Krueger in there, the girl from Exorcist. Jason, whatever his face is. Yeah. Chainsaw Massacre chases you at the end. he's got a big chain so he chases you through and then you come running out and you're in the middle of the gift shop. Yeah. It's fucking terrifying. Yeah. That one, because you constantly feel,
33:16Romesh Ranganathan:I saw someone punch someone in there. Yeah, well that's the other thing is when we went on the ghost train, they had to tell everybody they will not touch you so don't touch them. Yeah, yeah, but this one they couldn't say that. When I was at Thought Park there's a lot of people on the, yeah, but by the way, that completely takes it out of the, oh, you know, you're going to be really scared, by the way, there's no touching, we ain't going to touch you, I would rather they let it be scary and then some pissed punter at Thought Park who's getting drunk at Thought Park so many people really? mate the day I was there bearing in mind it was like the Friday good Friday yeah people were getting on it really?
33:55Romesh Ranganathan:start at the bank holiday people were on it like a group of lads come up to you you're going to get a photo they all had a pint in each hand wow honestly mate I got smashed with Catherine Ryan at Chessington once did you? we spent the whole day just having vodka and cokes I mean I'm saying it like it's a flex but that's what we did yeah people do it fair enough I mean I wouldn't do it now I mean I certainly wouldn't do it while I'm supervising Charlie and I was driving back nevered dad why did you hit that man on the train by the way here's a question for you we went to Charlie wanted to go to Ben and Jerry's yeah we went there yeah I don't want to make a big thing of it half the ice cream was missing so you go can I have this no I haven't got that anymore can I have this no no that happened a lot it's very strange actually because we had exactly this at Legoland was it Ben and Jerry's yeah yeah okay so now because I'm going to be honest with you I'm going to say it now my experience at Ben and Jerry's in Thorpe Park was the worst thing about my day at Thorpe Park wow okay that they were I don't know what was going on there I don't know if the staff were underpaid half the ice cream is missing yeah right so then eventually when we settled on a flavour they did have yeah we got it with whipped cream yeah he wanted whipped cream on the top came with no whipped cream wow couldn't be arsed to fucking but we'd been charged for it wow went back there they were already too busy with other people so I was like Charlie's gonna take fucking ages just get out of there really it's mad we went to Ben and Jerry I don't know who it is I don't know if it's Ben or Jerry but fix up anyway go on what you're saying we had exactly so we turn up to get the ice creams Grace likes marshmallows on an ice cream there's a jar of marshmallows she loves them and I went is it alright to have some marshmallows on there and he went oh no they're just for display.
35:37I said, what are they not real marshmallows? And he went, yeah, they're real marshmallows but they're just selling for display. I said, but why display something that you're not selling? And he said, I don't know, but we just put them there for, I said, is it just okay in this instance to put some marshmallows on there? And he went, no, I can't do that. That was insane. So,
35:54Romesh Ranganathan:Ben and Jerry's fucking sort yourselves out. It's, because Haagen-Dazs is a better ice cream anyway. Yeah. I'll tell you what else I love him better than that, Haagen-Dazs. hagen daz sounds better than hagen daz hagen daz i fancy a bit of a hagen daz hagen daz is good actually hagen daz hagen daz sounds like the cremiest ice cream on the market hagen daz doesn't by the way we need to be careful because we have you know ben and john john's shitting himself yeah like if absolutely shitting himself yeah we need to be um hagen daz is not better flavor than ben and jerry's though ben and jerry's is incredible tastes better yeah just yeah but i'm saying Haagen-Dazs.
36:29I like the ethics of Haagen-Dazs. In what way? Well, I just think it's like this stuff.
36:32Romesh Ranganathan:They don't have marshmallows at Haagen-Dazs, do they? No. No. But they don't put them on display either. No, that's a fair point. You're not running up a road going, oh, wow, fucking marshmallow. Ben & Jerry's is a big tease, I think, quite a lot of the time. Yeah, fuck you, Ben & Jerry's. Unless we get a read. All right, Tom, take us out of the app. Hello, friend. I am the sun shining down on you. Do you feel my rays? They're for you, but not just for you. They're for everyone. The flowers, the trees, the animals, the insects. The thing about the sun is you let it hit your face and let it slowly work up your tan.
37:11You can be selfish with it, much like other things. Do you know what I'm talking about? I'm glad you do.
37:25truth is sometimes in life it's very easy to think a moment that you live in is just for you summer turning a smile a lamb being born
37:41and you could start then believing in a selfish way that the world that you live in is just for you that your actions, as impactful as they may be to you, don't have a ripple effect that impact others. But alas, dear friend, alas, everything each and every one of us do somehow ripples out to other people. A fart on the train that gives someone a tummy ache. A burp in a lift that gives someone a tummy ache. Stepping on someone's toe that incidentally doesn't seem like it matters, but that person has an ingrained toe now and they're in absolute agony for ages. See, I guess the thing is, as you're walking through life, it's easy just to think you're the solo character in your own story, but your story is linked to many other stories, and in those stories, you don't want to be the bad guy.
38:30So the truth is, every action that you do, make sure there's a kindness behind it, very much like the sun, ripping him down, brightening your day. Obviously, you're not counting skin cancer and stuff, but be good, be kind, and do your best to brighten up people's taste
38:55Romesh Ranganathan:thank you so much for listening to and watching the Wolf and Our Podcast email in wolfoutpod.gmail.com we'll see you very soon for an email special subscribe peace out
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00:00 Intro00:03 Tom’s country and western album09:18 Tattoos11:06 Learning to drive14:16 Bucket lists17:33 Clubbing21:36 Queues27:03 Birthday gift29:46 Rollercoasters33:58 Ice cream36:22 The sun
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