In short
The hosts riff on streaming/TV habits, Star Wars/Ewoks, and “what happens after” famous films, then pivot into awkward celebrity-adjacent stories about texting Timothée Chalamet, interviewing Jill Scott (R&B singer), and a staged “cool interview” bit with Justin Timberlake and later Ricky Martin. They also discuss interview technique (how much to compliment, how to be “cool”) and include a health ad segment about Peyronie’s disease.
Guests (who appears)
No real guest is interviewed in this transcript. The “guests” discussed/acted out are Timothée Chalamet (actor; Wonka), Jill Scott (R&B singer; album interview), Justin Timberlake (singer/actor; parody interview), and Ricky Martin (singer; parody interview). The hosts are Tom Davis and Romesh Ranganathan.
Key claims
Tom instigates almost all contact with Chalamet via iMessage; Chalamet’s responses are minimal. Jill Scott required prior album listening, making Tom nervous. The hosts argue compliments can “polish egos” and that “cool” interviewing is a skill.
Notable examples
Chalamet texts like “Great hanging bro… stay bold” and “Thank you Tom.” Jill Scott’s first remark: “Nice porn stache.” Parody interviews: “Justin Timberbakes” and “Hot Sexy Dancer” (Ricky Martin).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Modern Way of Watching TV
0:45 to 2:24
Discussion about streaming services and TV viewing habits.
“It's all the people that are still using Blockbuster.”
Celebrating Rick and Morty
2:24 to 5:32
Conversation about Rick and Morty's impact and a guest appearance.
“It's sort of like the equivalent of the, it's the Ewok.”
Nostalgia for Classic Shows
5:32 to 7:20
A light-hearted chat about old TV shows and their memorable themes.
“What I'd love is a sequel to Big is just what happens to her.”
Thoughts on Ewoks and Star Wars
7:20 to 10:16
Discussing Ewoks, Star Wars films, and their audience.
“Yeah, but there was a darkness to Sloth.”
Reflections on Timothée Chalamet
10:46 to 14:00
Tom shares his experiences and interactions with Timothée Chalamet.
“I don't, I wasn't really after what he sent you.”
Discussing Temporary Connections
14:00 to 15:00
Explore the nature of temporary friendships and connections made during unique experiences.
“You know, big, super generational talent character actor.”
Scenarios for Reaching Out
15:00 to 16:00
Consider different scenarios where reaching out to a celebrity friend might be acceptable.
“But when that, but in fairness, in your defence.”
Texting Etiquette
16:00 to 17:00
Delve into the etiquette of texting a celebrity and the nuances of their responses.
“for you to text him Okay, he's filming it.”
Candid Conversations About Fame
17:00 to 18:00
A lighthearted discussion about the pressures of fame and celebrity interactions.
“hey man, just heard you're in Barcelona.”
Compliments and Irony
18:00 to 19:00
Examine the balance of sincerity and irony in giving compliments to famous people.
“That's something you say as you're building a Zoom.”
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Anecdotes of Interaction
19:00 to 20:00
Share humorous anecdotes regarding interactions with celebrities and waitstaff.
The Importance of Listening
23:20 to 24:20
Discuss the significance of being informed before interviewing a celebrity.
“It's not widely talked about, and some men may feel reluctant to bring it up, but it's more common than you'd think.”
Misunderstandings with Names
24:20 to 25:40
Explore the amusing misunderstandings that arise from shared celebrity names.
“Because people were like, oh, well, we can't have two Jennifer Lawrences.”
Audience Expectations vs. Reality
25:40 to 26:40
Discuss the expectations of audiences when celebrities share similar names.
“a couple of times do you think is that possible that's a bot or something maybe how can it be But my point is, me and Tom Davies are very disliked.”
Interviewing for Hip Hop
26:40 to 28:00
Share experiences and pressures while preparing for an interview with a celebrity.
“You're very sweet with her, but there's a thirstiness.”
Awkward Album Conversation
28:00 to 29:20
Romesh and Tom discuss a humorous encounter related to album promotion.
“Just trying to see the thing about the album.”
Navigating Celebrity Interviews
29:20 to 31:20
Insights on how to handle interviews with celebrities and the pressure involved.
“You're there to make her feel really, really good about herself, like, you know, boost sales, and you're a fan, and you've listened to it.”
The Challenge of Being Cool
31:20 to 33:50
Tom reflects on wanting to be cool during interviews and compares himself to Rick Edwards.
“Is Rick Edwards particularly cool about it?”
Imaginary Interview with Justin Timberlake
33:50 to 36:30
Role-playing an interview with Justin Timberlake, showcasing Tom's interviewing style.
“So for the love of hip hop here, we are doing a 10 minute mixtape with the legendary Justin Timberlake.”
Exploring Hip-Hop
42:18 to 44:16
Discussion about the host's new album and the hip-hop genre.
“which i'm hoping you heard yes i did yes and you're a big hip-hop fan and this is my first rebelling to what I think is my serious hip-hop phase.”
Cookery Show Introduction
44:16 to 44:52
Introduction of a new cooking show featuring Justin Timberlake.
“I was nominated for some pretty big awards for that.”
Character Acting and Interviews
44:52 to 47:58
Dialogue on character acting and the art of interviews.
“But it certainly did a lot of good for him out there.”
Interviewing Techniques
47:58 to 53:08
A discussion on the challenges and skills of interviewing.
“Secondly, why did you wink at the camera on a radio show?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Romesh Ranganathan:Welcome to The Wolf and Owl. The Wolf and Owl, The Wolf and Owl. The thing is, we keep doing this, we've already got a theme tune. Yeah. Then we keep doing a theme tune on top of a theme tune. It's a hat and a hat. And by the way, the theme tune is epic. It is epic. I sometimes listen to that when I'm just laying in the bath. No, you don't. I do.
0:19Romesh Ranganathan:Yo, yo, what do you want? Beak or jaws, feathers or fur. Sharp teeth or feet with claws, whatever's preferred. Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men. dressed up as a bird and a dog. You just quickly, like when it comes to like the modern way of watching television, streamers, right? What's the modern way? Streaming, right? Christ. Why are you saying it like you're ahead of the curve? No, but I'm just saying. Just talking about a little thing you might not know, guys. But a little thing called Netflix. Might have to break down the jar. Netflix. Streaming. I'm talking about Netflix, baby.
0:52It's all the people that are still using Blockbuster. No, but do you skip through? Because you know you can skip titles now. Yeah. Do you skip through the titles? Not on Rick and Morty, I don't.
1:00Romesh Ranganathan:Everything else I do. Thank you for bringing Rick and Morty out. Well, I was delighted. To hear me grunt on there. I had a little, yeah, a little. You had a thing in my favourite show. Yeah, yeah. You were very sweet, by the way. One of my favourite shows. You're one of the only people who actually messaged me about it. Because I love Rick and Morty. And then the new season dropped on Netflix. Yeah. I got very excited. I watched it all in about a day. And then I think it's like episode 10 or something. Yeah, yeah. You play Jealous X. Yeah. Really good. thank you very much I thought you were great I was jealous that's the biggest compliment I can play is that I was really jealous of you and I don't get jealous or should I I'm fucking smashing it you are smashing it West End Superstar Olivier nominated so difficult some people say you know do you feel envy I don't even remember it but do you have a thing where you're watching do you have any like if you're watching one of your favourite shows obviously we can watch well and then somebody you know comes into it no no but when you skip do you skip through or do you watch like theme tune from Friends do you skip through or do you watch it yeah I'll skip through that really what would you do I'll watch it all get the family round I'll be yeah I think that's it's a positive thing to have like that well the one thing I do think the A team what streamers got the A team oh sometimes watch old DVDs of it oh right okay yeah modern mask mask yeah great theme tune mask crusaders fighting out of time fighting crime uh what wasn't it what's the verse bit of that um check is gonna lead the mission
2:39superstition is it superstition yeah what superstition superstition superstition right because it was that you know the bald guy in there who was really superstitious oh yeah that's right
2:51Romesh Ranganathan:and they had to sort of the whole series was about trying to get him to walk under a ladder I forgot yeah I don't know if we've talked about that I always think if you were in that you'd have been T-Bob fucking hell he broke a mirror you'd be T-Bob I hate T-Bob I hate all those characters and I think T-Bob Snarf go fuck yourself that is I always think when you're coming in fuck off you're doing a voice for a character in a cartoon that's like you're going would I be Mum Ra who's that who's that in the turtles the turtles have really got someone like that, have they? No. They haven't actually. They've not got a cutesy.
3:30Romesh Ranganathan:It's sort of like the equivalent of the, it's the Ewok. Yeah. The Ewok of the piece. Yeah. Although I do like Ewoks actually. That was really unfair on Ewoks. What? I can't stand Ewoks. Did you know about one in three people with plaque psoriasis may also develop psoriatic arthritis which causes joint pain, stiffness and swelling? Does this sound like you? Listen to what It sounds like to be a million miles away.
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5:09Romesh Ranganathan:Did you not watch the spin-off films, Battle for End or Caravan of Courage? I watched the main ones and I thought they were great. I'm like, alright, it's getting a bit thirsty now. How's it getting thirsty? Because kids, listen. Kids like it, yeah. This is what people forget. Star Wars is a kids film mate it's a great look I do know what and then people go well it's not a kids film you go no you were a kid when you watched it you've just grown up silly old bastard by the way can I say a kids film that isn't really a kids film is a lot sexier than I remember as I watched Big the other week what's sexy about that there's loads of sexy stuff in Big it's a lot more sexualised than I remember here's a question for you is the woman he gets with a nonce or not well no she's got paedophile tendencies more than tendencies yeah well no but she doesn't know he's a kid but she's attracted to children yeah like she's with It's a horrible thing to find out about yourself, isn't it?
5:52Romesh Ranganathan:What I'd love is a sequel to Big is just what happens to her. Actually, by the way, can I say, at the end of that movie, when she's watching him and he's a kid, I actually had a lump in my throat. I found that very, quite sad. Like, it's quite sad. And she's sort of like, you know, he runs off down the street and then she just watched him go and then he's a little boy again. Did they say something like, look me up in 20 years or something? Yeah, yeah. I don't think so, you dusty old bitch. I mean, can you imagine? I can't believe I sent that horrible thing to you. Can you imagine the kid from Big, when he goes back to school and tells everyone what he's been up to?
6:26Everyone's like, what the fuck?
6:28Romesh Ranganathan:They smell incredible. And then she got naked. Grabbed the boobies. What? What a terrible start to this. Oh, my God. What did you do on summer break? Did you learn that thing they do? No. No. Can I say, by the way, that's the sort of thing that people do as party tricks. You know when people have a party trick, I remember the thing from Big and they do the handshake with something oh I remember that as well and they both jump I'm never any good at that kind of thing I haven't got that okay well there we've uncovered the reality of it initially you sort of pitched it like you thought those people were bricks now it turns out you can't do it no I'm jealous maybe you could do it yeah you're jealous you could do it you'd love to do it do you ever think about films like that where like what happened after the film like yeah sometimes they tackle that don't they I love those those are my favourite films I don't even heard of it it's ahead of the curve sequels no no no but even when they go like you know you watch a film and at the end i'll just show like a picture of the character and i go like you know merv tomlinson ended up buying a shop in downtown louisiana or whatever i've never really understood that for fictional movies because you sort of think like what you're doing is you're telling the story yeah but the film is the opportunity to be a story isn't that yeah but like that's the storytelling medium you've chosen why don't you just do the whole thing in a scroll if you're going to do that bit yeah but then whatever happened after the goonies and you know a sloth moves in with Chunk and his family.
7:49How did that work out? Yeah. That would have been good. Sitcom.
7:54Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. That would have been a great sitcom. Yeah, but also. Sloth and Chunk. Sloth and Chunk. Yeah, but there was a darkness to Sloth. Got themselves in a bit of a funk. I don't think he should have been in a house. I think he should have. Yeah, you don't want that when it discovers sort of sexual desire in your house, do you? I think they'll be fine sharing a room together. Yeah. Just giving him this crash test dummy to fuck. I can't really go, someone who's such a short temper of sloth and someone as annoying as Chunk sharing a bedroom. It's like literally, it's like a Netflix spin-off documentary.
8:27Romesh Ranganathan:This has got so dark. Anyway, how are you? I'm very well. Good, good. Great to be back here. Back in the, yeah, back in the studio. Very excited to be back. There is an issue. Yeah. Are you aware of the issue? Have I bogeyed my nose? No. Okay. I wanted to tell you before now. Okay, okay. It's the Wolf and Our Podcast. Yep. owl yes wolf oh wow and if you look at it if you look at us now it's owl and wolf it's the owl and wolf podcast yeah what yeah and that doesn't work at all no but what i'm suggesting is we swap i come sit over there no the other way of swapping i'm happy to yeah i mean yeah i've i've sort of equipped myself on this seat a little bit what does that mean well my buttocks have been engaged with the seat and the lineage of the seat.
9:19So I just sort of feel at home here.
9:20Romesh Ranganathan:But you can bring the chair around here. It's a lot to bring the chair. I'll just jump into your chair. See how you get on. It's quite warm. That's all I'm saying. Have you been burying farts in that cushion? No, I've been burying a fart in this cushion. Am I taking this wolf with me, by the way? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, okay. Shall we do it? Okay. So how have you been? Good. We're all sorted now. We're in the right place. Look, wolf and owl. Everyone can be relaxed. I think there'll be some people that have found this unwatchable up until this point. Yeah. And there are some people, as we know, who find it unwatchable.
9:51Yeah. And that's the end of the sentence. I mean, I think it's incredible people are watching this. Yeah. Well, we don't know that they are. Yeah, we don't. Let's not start tempting fate. So how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I've had a... I realise I might have over-egged my friendship. Timothy Chalamet?
10:08Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Would be my guess. Yeah. So what happened? So you did Wonka with him? what was the state of play with you and Timothee Chalamet because obviously we all know everybody's watched Underdog so we know you shat this trailer how was it left at the end? there was a nice friendship, we hung out at the premiere we've been in contact who's instigating contact mostly? I'd say 99.5 % me 100 % I've instigated so what sort of things will you say to him? just give me an example of the sort of thing you might say I mean I find it I find it incredible that you've got Timothee Chalamet's phone number or is it the one where he's giving you the email it's just on iMessage no no no it's his number do you ever send a voice note no although he did take this picture of me when we were filming Wonka that is such a depressing picture of you so he said great hanging bro can't wait to hang on normal hours stay safe stay bold great working together.
11:14Romesh Ranganathan:Nice? Yeah. What did you say? I don't, I wasn't really after what he sent you. What sort of stuff have you sent him? This looks going straight on the ground, my G.
11:27I mean, to be fair, actually, my G, big Tom, put Tom D here, checking in.
11:33Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, fucking hell, Tom. I hope, I hope life is treating you well. My man, good here. Can't wait for Wonka. I've seen some stuff. It looks awesome. Hope you're good, brother. So this is all before the film's come out? Yeah, yeah. Then a couple of Merry Christmases. What was the Merry Christmas text? I said, very Merry Christmas to you and yours, bro. And he said, same to you, Tom. Same to you, Tom? Did he say same to you, Tom, in response to that? Yeah. Oh, God. That's the message. That is him training you to be appropriate. Yeah. Anyway, go on. Then I, for some reason, sent some pictures, some MMA fighters.
12:12what why why did you send that because we used to watch MMA together what did you send with that picture nothing just fly safe amigo then we've got quite a lot of the new trailer looks amazing hope you're well
12:32Romesh Ranganathan:are there any conversations he's instigated no then I've said June 2 looks banging bro oh my god please tell me you didn't say that. Yeah. There it's there, look. Fucking hell. And I got nothing back from that. No. So then I say. Why would you? Yo, bro, just watched Complete Unknown Trailer. Blown my mind. Hope life is good. What was the response to that? Nothing.
13:06That was in November. 20th of November. I've sat on it now and then I've gone very merry Christmas to you and your family have a blinder nothing nothing
13:17Romesh Ranganathan:but then I said do you think the June 2 text was a mistake because it sounds like you had you're having interaction before that yeah no no no then I've gone my word Marty Supreme is a work of genius okay good you fucking smashed it congrats on very much in keeping with the anus cleaning service no no I've gone and then he's gone in capital letters thank you Tom okay that's nice you're back in the game you're back in the day and then I should I said I should say that you're searching for greatness beat struck a chord with me I was very inspired and that was the last conversation we had
13:56Romesh Ranganathan:you know what you're like can I make a suggestion as a mate yeah I don't think you should text him again no no I don't think yeah the trouble is you know what we had this really lovely time but I'm doing all the instigating it's like it's like you know when you go on holiday with people and you hang out and you go fucking hell this is great and you don't need to see those people together you just go oh we had fucking INAPA 1998 you had a nice experience with Timothee Chalamet yeah he seems like a nice guy great guy you've hung out with him yeah enjoyed each other's company yeah there is nothing wrong with that being temporary yeah and you've got each other's numbers and should you ever need each other you can get in touch yeah and you know he might be on a film where they go oh we need a big, yeah.
14:38Romesh Ranganathan:You know, big, super generational talent character actor. Or just a big doofus, yeah. And then he'll, he's got a direct line to you. Yeah. But you don't have to be mates. I mean, he's not going to meet up with you, is he? No. Well, he might do. If he was like, if I was, if he came to London, maybe. Yeah. Or if he was here for six, eight months. To be fair, he was in London for the whole of the promotion for Marty Supreme. But when that, but in fairness, in your defence. Yeah, I know how busy he was. It's very heck. Yeah, but then I'd look at it and think maybe if we were both in, I don't know, if he was filming in Prague and I was in Prague as well.
15:14Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, well, what happens is you both have to be away from home, don't you, in order to meet up. Yeah. That seems to be, so you'll be quite close to people, and you go, we should meet up, you never do it, and then you happen to both be in Barcelona, and you go, we should definitely meet up, and then you do meet up. So if he's in Barcelona, I just happen to be there as well.
15:33Romesh Ranganathan:I just think it's I just think it's better for you to not instigate any more text conversations I think let it come from him do you think if I was working yeah but if I was working in Barcelona I'd text him and said or I just went hey just seen your film in Barcelona no hey man no okay I don't think you should text him again what if I but I give me a series of scenarios and I'll tell you when you should text him you try and design a scenario which I think is acceptable for you to text him Okay, he's filming it. Based on what's happened there. We're going to use Barcelona because it's a city. Right, he's filming in Barcelona.
16:05Romesh Ranganathan:Use Barcelona because it's a city, good. Yeah, no, it's a city, might film it. It's a great looking city. He's filming in Barcelona. Could be Helsinki. Helsinki's a beautiful city, but for this film it's going to be Barcelona. Colombo? Colombo? Yeah. Is that a place? Yes, it's the capital of Sri Lanka. Okay. Just, you know, like, your mate's family origins are from there. I don't know, the capital of the city. You can do a Google. Yeah. Well, I know London. I was about to say, yeah, no, but would you know the capital city of Ireland, I was going to say.
16:38Anyway, go on. So, all right, we're in Barcelona. Yeah. All right. I'm out there to watch, go to the Camp Nou, to watch a football game. This is a scenario. Yeah. As I'm walking along, I'm chatting. I hear someone go, oh, you know, the new crazy movie's being filmed. Timothy Chalamet's filming out here. And then, so then I was like, oh, fuck, Tim's out here as well. if I was then to text and go, hey man, just heard you're in Barcelona. Say it ain't so, lol. I'm here watching Barcelona. No, I wouldn't send that. Really? Yeah. What would you send? Nothing. Okay. All right. I'm in LA or New York.
17:14Let's say New York. Okay. He lives in New York. Right. I'm out of New York, right? Yeah. I'm doing a couple of gigs. Yo, Tim, just landed at NYC, my friend. Fancy coming down watching The Big Man in Action? lol why are you adding lol to everything no just because because then it makes it less aggressive or like it makes him yeah it feels like
17:36Romesh Ranganathan:were you just checking your watch to see if you got a text from him there no no have you texted him while we've been doing this podcast no no I was going to text him send him hey man I hope you don't mind me chatting about you a little bit no I'm not going no so that's not because what if then he does text me and go hey hey buddy heard you were in New York man my hometown and you didn't even say you were here and then and then this is when you have an amazing opportunity to go yeah it would have been cool to see you but i figured you know you'd be super busy and i didn't want to intrude and then he goes oh my god no next time definitely hook me look me up and then so you're so much cooler than i am in this sort of situation it's not cool but it's just like you've sent without response you've cleaned his ring yeah successively with those texts yeah Your speech was inspiring, bro.
18:26Romesh Ranganathan:What the fuck are you doing? That's something you say as you're building a Zoom. I think the way I put it, I think... Read it to me again. Can I just say that you've actually been very complimentary and made it sound a lot cooler than I actually fucking... I said, should say that Searching for Greatness speech struck a chord with me, my bro. And then I just realised I did that emoticon. You didn't really? Yeah. oh my god you're even lying i thought you're doing it for comedy so i'm not now i'm what do you think that tech says first of all i genuinely think by the way can i just say i did think it was a kind of cool speech fine so say that why do you why do you have to amplify it also the other thing is right Fist bump Fucking hell man Can I say I hope he thought That was me being silly as well Definitely Yeah Definitely It was laced with irony Your text
19:37It's so fucking You know the worst The worst thing I could think of It's because we had quite a laugh And we quite enjoyed it he's a lovely guy but I just keep thinking and this is I do this in a lot of situations in my life but I do think he's there with his missus and I walk into a bar somewhere like Barcelona and she goes oh my god you know that guy who was texting you all the time from Warcraft yeah Tom yeah he's just walked in oh my god oh no is he looking over I don't think he's seen his shit I don't think it'd be like that But it will be if you keep sending those texts. Yeah, okay. I think this is...
20:20I just have... If I'm impressed by something, I can't help but tell people. No, that is true.
20:27Romesh Ranganathan:You're very fulsome with your praise. The thing about Tom Davis is if he thinks something you've done is really good and you're famous, he will text you. No, that's not true. There's a waiter just now. He was so charming to everyone who walked in. It was beautiful to see. And when I was... pay my bill i said by the way uh can i just say i thought you were absolutely amazing to watch how you interact with people it's a real beautiful thing to watch it's funny isn't it because it's weird how all these stories are kind of reported because i just had lunch with you and the waitress was wonderful and you barely fucking made eye contact with her yeah number one it would have been rude because we were chatting she did actually butt into the conversation a couple yeah to ask what we wanted to eat no but she she wasn't but look this guy was absolutely beautiful in his way.
21:14I'm not, this is what, I'm not hanging out. She was a good waitress. She was very efficient. She did. At no point did she sort of turn around and sort of go, oh wow, this is delicious. Oh, what a nice jacket. Or like this guy, right? This woman came in and she went. I wouldn't like that. Well, this woman came in. She went, I'm meeting my parents here. They were going to be here half an hour ago. I can't get hold of them. Like I'm a bit worried. He said, hey, you have a rest. You have a sit down. I'm going to get you a coffee and they'll be here soon enough. That was quite nice. That is quite nice.
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21:40It was a really nice thought. He put a mind at rest. That is quite nice. He said London transport's awful. They could be stuck underground. Yeah.
21:46Romesh Ranganathan:Slowest city in the world apparently. Really? For traffic. I find it hard to believe that they've just been awarded that. A cabbie told me. Just after he finished talking about immigrants.
21:58Romesh Ranganathan:Now, I want to apologise to you. Yep. Because I was giving you shit about Timothee Chalamet. Yep. And I was doing For the Love of Hip Hop. Yep. And we interviewed Jill Scott. the singer. Okay. By the way, I didn't really like that face even if it was a footballer. No, no, no. I was just thinking... You went like this. No, no. I didn't know she liked hip-hop, Jill Scott. I don't think she does, but Jill Scott, the R &B singer. Yeah, okay, cool. Okay. Let's talk about a condition many people haven't heard of, and it turns out it's more common than you'd think. Peyronie's disease, or PD for short.
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23:48Romesh Ranganathan:Quite a big deal. Yeah. I'm a big fan. Yeah. I'm assuming that's the first, I'm sort of guessing that's the first time you were aware that was a Jill Scott. Yeah, I always find it strange when, there used to be a time, didn't there, with celebrities that you could only have one person by that name. What do you mean? Like, you had to sign up and then you had to change your name if someone else had the same name as you. Are you doing a character? What are you doing now? It's not true. Mate, for actors and actresses, that's why loads of people, like famous actors, changed their names. Because they went in and...
24:18Isn't that just to avoid... It's not a law. Mate, it's as good as law. Why? Because people were like, oh, well, we can't have two Jennifer Lawrences. It would just be confusing. If you went along to watched like a film where Jennifer Lawrence is in this good hey old up this isn't the Jennifer Lawrence I was expecting no you actually make a point you make a good point yeah so yeah okay right yeah so Jill Scott why are you chuckling to yourself because I'm just thinking no because I like it when I get shit right yeah so when you say about Jill Scott I am not as funger on the pulse with R &B as you are by any means so you say I would spoke to Jill Scott I'm like okay that the the footballer yeah but i hardly think somebody is tuning into the overlap and going fucking hell when's she gonna sing golden do you know how many times i get comments and messages about tom davies the footballer what what kind of comments uh for example uh tickets for my brighton show went up and there was a one of these things that they put up on facebook for trying to sell tickets for my Brighton show um advert yeah don't skirt around it an advert yeah and in one of the one of the comments on it meant um like it's a fucking news story one of the comments on it read um uh glad he fucked off to Sheffield United um or something like that he couldn't even learn from so-and-so Everton footballer it was quite a harsh thing about and I've been trolled as being Tom Davis a couple of times do you think is that possible that's a bot or something maybe how can it be But my point is, me and Tom Davies are very disliked.
25:47We're in very different trades, but there's still a confusion. So I'm just saying that when you were saying, oh yeah, I had Jill Scott on, I'm like, if I was to listen to that and you were like showing off and you're like, just had Jill Scott on the hip-hop podcast, I'd go, I'll ever listen to that. It'd completely throw me if I listened to it. And I was like, oh shit, this is entertaining, brilliant. Actually really a fan now, but I was going there. Well, how long into it do you think you'd have discovered that it wasn't Jill Scott the footballer?
26:14Romesh Ranganathan:Well, I hope I'd know quite quickly. I think you know from the intro. Yeah, I guess so. I don't think you'd be disorientated. Sometimes you'll be... She sounds different. Going back to our conversation, what if I fast forward... Why are you talking about her time working with The Roots? If I fast forward through a little bit of the intro. Getting in touch with... I didn't know you knew Kendrick Lamar. So, hold up. You got thirsty around... I mean, you get a little bit thirsty around Jill Scott, the footballer at times. Don't start this. You do? How? You're very sweet with her, but there's a thirstiness.
26:46Romesh Ranganathan:I'm being nice. You are, but there's also... I like her. She's lovely. She's a mate. She's a diamond. Yeah. But there's a thirstiness there. What? Like what? Give me an example. I'd say out of all the people you're thirsty around when we do Leg on Our Own, that's where I go, someone's dying for a drink. Oh, that's coming from the most... That's coming from fucking Gandhi's flip-flop himself, by the way. I'm thirsty around everyone. This is my fucking being. Anyway. If I'm not thirsty around you, you've got to know you're... I mean, you are... Listen. if anybody has met Tom and he's not thirsty around you, you are scum.
27:19Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, yeah. That only really sort of happens on the nonsense wing. And even then. And even then occasionally. So I've got a bit of charisma. Anyway, so before I did the interview, it was a bit like rushed because I was, it was in the middle of like, they're trying to pack this pre-recording around a load of other stuff. So the production team was sort of panicking. Under stress. Do you know when you turn up and everyone's quite stressed and that sort of transfers to you? I was sort of feeling a bit flustered. Yeah, yeah. And I'd had a message beforehand saying Jill will only... I mean, and by the way, this is reasonable, but the way it comes from the PR sounds pretty stern.
27:58Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It says, like, Jill's only doing interviews with people that have listened to the album, right? I have.
28:06No worries, yeah. Hello, hello, mate. It's Rom here. Just trying to see the thing about the album. Loved it. to it all
28:16Romesh Ranganathan:you didn't do that did you no good I'm not only because I'm not in direct contact with them so anyway she comes in but then as soon as somebody says you have to listen to the album then I'm nervous that she's going to like say a lyric or go or she might my paranoia makes me think she's going to go and what did you think of Floodelflump was that your favourite song no but that's what I'm saying what do you think of Floodelflump that's quite a cool name for a song yeah I do well I'm just what do you think of Floodelflump and I go oh yeah it was like really good she'd go what? I just made it up Is she American?
28:46Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah That's not a track aren't it? Yeah The first thing she said to me was nice porn stache What? Nice porn stache Oh porn stache as in your moustache Yeah I thought like maybe you'd lent on a couple of old razzle mags I just knocked over some Asian babes I've got Reedus Wiles there if you want to have a little leaf through that Yeah Anyway I say long story short that ship has sailed but i am i just was like i was just being like um i just i just kept talking i basically kept going first of all it's like such an like we've got a legend in the building it's such an honor to be talking to you but that's also that you didn't stop it didn't stop yeah but like you like can i just say there's a very different thing going on there like you are interviewing someone you're a big big fan of this is me saying don't give yourself a hard time that's someone you're a fan of, she's on there, she's promoting something, you're bigging it up.
29:42That's your job within it, right? So that is what you're there to do. You're there to make her feel really, really good about herself, like, you know, boost sales, and you're a fan, and you've listened to it. I'm sure you liked it. I know what you're doing, Tom.
29:54Romesh Ranganathan:No. People don't realize how you operate. No, no. This is what's happened, okay? I've been a prick to you about Chalamet. Yeah. You've gone, people are going to think it's been a bit harsh to me there. and then I've offered you the opportunity to go back in on me and you've thought, do you know what? If I take the high road here, this solidifies me as a nice guy. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you and I will tell you quite clearly, my friend. If I'm going to die on a hill, it will not be the Jill Scott one. You haven't been muggy enough. When you're a mug, I'll be the first one to dive in two-footed.
30:30I'll be the Jonesy straight away. But for me, I think you're giving yourself a bit of a hard time. Okay, thank you. I do think that is what you're doing. You're a polisher by nature there. A what? You're polishing people's egos. That's what that show is for. Do you think you clock when you're being polished? Yeah. I find it awful when someone gives you loads. I'd actually much rather you rinse me like you just did rather than someone gives you loads and loads of compliments. Like you just did. But you like a compliment. What do you mean? You're like, you know, a dog gets stroked too much and then it sort of wheezes on the floor.
31:04That's what you're like when you get a compliment. I see your tummy comes out. Oh, I feel good about myself now. It's nice, it's cute.
31:13Romesh Ranganathan:Anyway, it's a habit I've got, a bad habit I've got that I'm a bit of a sycophant in interviews. I'd like to get better at it. In what sense? Be more like cool than... Who's like Rick Edwards? Is Rick Edwards particularly cool about it? He's fucking cool. Yeah, Rick Edwards is a cool guy. I mean, I know he's genuinely a cool guy, but is he... When he interviews people, he's cool. Rick Edwards could interview like Barack Obama any number of really really cool people and he weirdly feels like he's on the same level as them why was barack obama like your go-to on that i think he's a pretty fucking cool guy yeah i think if i'm thinking about cool guys who are also like high status and powerful who's your second favorite after trump president wise yeah uh yeah probably oh no sorry um okay president i like joe president wise number two epstein island visitors was he four or five try i like you know uh i like clinton i thought clinton had a vibe he was very sexy yeah also yeah clinton was like a sexy dork
32:14Romesh Ranganathan:anyway i thought um basically i want a bit of practice at this what what being cool like rick edward's cool yeah basically i want to interview who would be the coolest person that you could interview who you'd feel like you are so inadequate and so inferior to apart from jill scott just any well do you want to be a rapper no i've got to be careful i don't know yeah have we got some makeup um no uh just make just be a singer a singer that i like all right no yeah but i need to i can't you can't go to an act that yeah it shows how little regard you got to me as a professional as an actor go just be a singer i've got no like the vibe i've got like i need to get into character.
32:53This is like a two-minute
32:55Romesh Ranganathan:fucking bet. Yeah, but I take that seriously. You've asked, you've come to me begging for a favour. You're like, oh, please, I'm so thirsty and inadequate when it comes to interviewing. And I'm like, okay, I'll help you out. Oh, no, don't worry about fucking taking it too seriously. We'll just rush for, but if you want help, I'm here to help you. Okay, fine, fine, fine. Okay. What about Mark Antony, who used to go out with Jennifer Lopez? What do you know about Mark Antony? Because I know fuck all. Okay. Someone else that you... Why don't you be Justin Timberlake? Cool guy. Okay. Yo, how you doing, doc?
33:33What? What?
33:35Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. So imagine it's on a radio show. Yeah, it's your radio show. Wow, cool room, man. Cool room. Makes me think about some other cool rooms I've been in. Well, I look forward to hearing about that. So for the love of hip hop here, we are doing a 10 minute mixtape with the legendary Justin Timberlake. Okay, easy. I think you're cool as well, huh? Thanks. So Justin, how are you? You over in London? Yeah, I love London City, bro. I love London City. It's cool. It's great. I had some nice fish and chips yesterday. I went for a park run with my cousin, Mark.
34:21how was the park run great man yeah yeah i beat mark he's not much for a runner but uh
34:27Romesh Ranganathan:you know he's a hell of a guy yeah he's a cool guy so um are you a big fan of hip-hop oh yeah for sure dog what sort of stuff you're into um nwa i like them tupac snoop biggie smalls i guess anyone else because you're a big hip-hop fan aren't you yeah man um some of the newer stuff like yeah, some underground stuff you probably wouldn't know. Like what? The Radical Mile. The who? The Radical Mile. The Radical Mile. Yeah, man, they're really up and coming. They're from Connecticut. So, yeah, you know, I don't want to show off, but they're cool. And are you planning on touring anytime soon? Yeah, hopefully soon.
35:13Hopefully soon. At the moment I'm just getting my life back in honor. I've been through a lot of different stuff. I just had a new kitchen installed back home. So that took quite a lot of my time.
35:23Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, cool. You got a new kitchen put in. What sort of stuff do you get put in there? I've got one of those big islands that people get when they get a lot of money. I mean, I imagine, I'm surprised that this is your first time getting an island. Yeah. It's your first time in your life that you've had a kitchen island. Yeah, well, I didn't have one before because sometimes when I'm cooking, I like to dance. You know I'm a dancer, right? How do you mean a dancer? I dance, I sing and dance, you know. Yeah, I mean, you're amazing. I used to like to dance around the kitchen, but now I'm a bit older and I've got like three dogs.
35:51I was tripping over the dogs and thought actually I would just probably dance in the dance studio that I have in my house.
35:57Romesh Ranganathan:What has this got to do with the kitchen? Sorry, Justin, I'm not following. How did that stop you getting a kitchen island? Yeah, well, because I liked to dance as I was cooking. So I'd be cooking like some, you know, Mexican food, probably my favorite kind of food. What sort of stuff do you like Mexican? Fajitas, burritos, anything with chicken and the bread things that you put in it. Tortillas. Yeah, tortillas. I like the spices and stuff. Guacamole is quite easy to make. So yeah, I'd do that. Are you okay, Justin? Sorry. Even though I have, not to be interrupted on my Apple Watch, someone's calling me.
36:43I think it's a guy about my kitchen. So yeah, but I used to like to dance. I put some music on, I get jivey, you know? And then I realized that actually, you know, it was harder to dance in there than I thought. So I just put an island in. And now I lean on the island and I just listen to music. How high is the... Oh, I'm quite short. I'm quite, you know, you know that about me, right? I look bigger on TV.
37:06Romesh Ranganathan:It's almost impossible to predict how short's pronounced in the American accent, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I play with different ways. That's part of my job as well, because I'm an actor as well. Yeah, yeah. So I've just done a big new movie. Yeah, so tell me all about the movie. I'm really excited about it, by the way. What's that? What was that? Oh, no, sorry, I was just... That's over-familiar. I'm sure when my PR people messaged you, they said, can you make sure not to touch Justin? He doesn't like it. I didn't say that, sorry. It's very strange that you were so overly confident. It wasn't confidence, it was just...
37:40It was arrogance, is what it is. you hit me on the arm like we'd known each other for 10 years. Sorry, it was just because we were getting on with the... It's very strange that you... Did I do something that enforced you to be quite so flippant with your hands?
37:56Romesh Ranganathan:No, I don't even think I meant to do it. I just went like, you know, it was just... That was intentional, the way you touched me. Well, well... You were touching people intentionally. Own it. Well, I didn't... Don't be weak. Own it. Okay, I touched it. see what happened there what you you should that's the point where you should have said yeah i touched you because i thought we were mates okay but first of all i don't know why i touched you i never would do that in an interview i would do that over a million you know yeah i know yeah can i just say what it is i know exactly what it is what you became the alpha and you didn't know how to handle it you are alpha jack justin tim blake i mean i don't i don't know what that exercise achieved in what sense i was actually trying to tee you up to sort of have a go at me I did in the end.
38:44Romesh Ranganathan:Because I had to touch you for that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so imagine you're Justin Timberlake, but you're really wanting praise. So basically what I think you need to do is you need to make sure that you're not sort of sucking up to them and giving them folkful praise. Am I allowed to give any praise? No, you can't at all. Nothing positive? Yeah, you've basically got to be a hardball here. Okay. For you, they're lucky to be with you rather than the other way around. Okay? I'm joined today by Justin Timberlake. Hey, man. How you doing? You good? Yeah. Thank you for coming onto the show.
39:18Oh, man. Blessing to be here. I'm a big fan of your stuff. I watched your skits when I was coming over on the flight. Oh, thanks. I was like, God, this guy's funny, man. Yeah. You got some funny stuff, bro. You're a funny guy. I was doing this. The guy next to me, I didn't know him. Turned out he was a salesman selling ink pens. Dying business. I know.
39:41Romesh Ranganathan:better ink pens yeah yeah yeah yeah and what's that been what have ink pens been replaced by computers i guess okay right it's just the way you said ink pen yeah yeah yeah that's how he described it there's a different liquid that was going i said what are you doing in the uk uh and firstly i went hey you've seen this guy he's hilarious he went oh who's this uh his name he's right, I'm just running an ether. Can we just pause this? What's happening? Sorry. I thought the point of it was... I'm getting his character. He's his fucking character. Okay. The whole thing was I was supposed to be cool in the face of somebody that wants praise.
40:23Romesh Ranganathan:Just sitting here silently when he goes to this fucking anecdote about who was sitting next to the plane. I sort of let it go for a bit and he started talking about the fucking... I'm now listening to you pretending to be Justin Timberlake talking about the guy who's sitting next to on the plane. Okay. Okay. All right. You need to quit. Yeah, man, it's great to see you. I watched some of your skits over here on the way over on the plane. Boy, you're a funny guy. Thank you. You're sure a funny guy. The skits are funny, man. Thank you. Thanks so much. Well done. How are you finding London? Oh, don't even get me started.
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42:17okay uh well we're not really here to talk about the weather we're here to talk about my new album which i'm hoping you heard yes i did yes and you're a big hip-hop fan and this is my first rebelling to what I think is my serious hip-hop phase. What made you move into hip-hop? I've always loved it, man. I've always loved it. And that's why when I'm, you know, with a hip-hop nerd like you, I really want to see if they like it and if it's, you know, how much you've enjoyed it.
42:46Romesh Ranganathan:You've definitely, like, definitely explored the genre. Thank you. And, you know, where would you gauge your enjoyment? Were you toe-tapping? Were you dancing or singing along? Yeah, you can't. I wouldn't say I was singing along. Only because it's the first time I was listening to it. So you only listened to it once. Well, no, I mean, I've listened to it a couple of times, but you don't know the words from... Yeah, but, I mean, did the lyrics stay with you? Did you find them effervescent? Yeah.
43:17Romesh Ranganathan:That's funny. You mispronounced that word like a friend of mine. Sorry. But you kind of got it from the same place because he's a real thick...
43:29so you weren't you know jiving did you play it i you know when i was i hear your son is a big hip-hop he is yeah as well yeah so uh did he enjoy it or is it cool for the kids he listened to it yeah did he enjoy it did he i i've not spoken to about it but i guess what do you mean you you play someone a what a track and don't say hey what do you think bob or bill or I don't know what your kid's name is. But those are your guesses.
43:59Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Andrew? I don't know what to... Yeah, he listened to it, yeah. All right. And he wasn't negative about it at all. Hey, did you see me when I was in the social network? Did you enjoy that movie? I saw that film, yeah. Did you enjoy it? A lot of people loved that film, didn't they? Did you enjoy it? Huh? I was nominated for some pretty big awards for that. Yeah. Great film. Yeah, congratulations on that. You know, I've done the Super Bowl a record amount of times. Yeah. I mean, how do you respond to the theory that Janet Jackson's nip slip led to massive ramifications for her career but didn't touch you at all?
44:37Romesh Ranganathan:Well, look, that was something I don't want to get into. Demonstrates. I don't want to talk about. Systemic racism. Now you're stepping in a place. Things that surround the NFL and American culture in general. You are stepping into a place where I don't want to talk. So I've got a new cookery show where I cook stuff. what's it called oh you're talking of course about justin timberbakes yeah that's my new show i think i'm a massive you and you probably are as well i'm a big um uh bake off fan yes i'm obsessed yeah we love it over here so you like it you like it in the states yeah we've got a version in the states yeah paul hollywood uh who isn't actually from hollywood either the northern island one or the american one but that's a certain many either the what one?
45:17Northern Ireland. Oh, okay. American Hollywood. Yeah. But it certainly did a lot of good for him out there. Okay. In the US. Cool. Um, so I watched that. I sit there in my, at first I was watching it with Popcorn and I thought, God damn, Justin, make a cake. The guy addicted to making cakes. And, uh, yeah, now I got Justin Timberbakes. Okay, end scene.
45:42Romesh Ranganathan:You just keep getting too excited about doing the character. i'm in i'm a character actor it's what i do i'm in completely immersed all right all right it's like once i'm in i'm in yeah by the way i i felt like justin inside of me what did you think of how i dealt with it i actually think you were quite good but the trouble with you you need to up call it what does that do you want me to show you how i think you should do it okay yeah who are you gonna be who do you want me to be uh ricky martin okay okay i'm you all right hello Welcome to Hip Hop Save Your Life What? Well, two things. First of all, I don't know why you're doing that voice.
46:20Romesh Ranganathan:Secondly, I don't know why you're calling it a podcast that I stopped doing six years ago. Okay. What's your new show called? For the Love of Hip Hop. I'll do it in a voice that's called Hi. This is me, Romesh. Oh my god. That's why it's hard to do the character in that voice. Hi. This is me, Romesh Ranganathan and this is For the Love of Hip Hop. Today I'm joined by an actor, a singer, and I guess a dancer, Mr. Ricky Martin. Hey, man. How are you doing? Good, Ricky. How are you? Really good, thank you. How are you? I love being in London. It's great. We're not here to talk about London, though, Ricky.
46:59We're here to talk about your new album, Hot Sexy Dancer. Yes. Now that is a hell of a title.
47:06Romesh Ranganathan:Thank you so much. It came from... Well, you being a hot, sexy dancer, I'd imagine.
47:17Romesh Ranganathan:how come you're winking at the camera oh that's something i do just for the viewers now it's um uh a friend of mine was i played in one of the tracks and he was dancing and i just said hey man you're moving like a hot sexy dancer and then i thought oh my god that's a great name for the whole album yeah and there's a lot of dancing music on there i really enjoyed it's got this hip-hop flavor which you know i find delicious um thanks man um now i can't have you here without asking you ricky acting wise you are phenomenal in some of the stuff you've been in tell me what what the fuck is going on right can we just cut there first of all why are you asking about acting stuff on the hip-hop show.
48:05Romesh Ranganathan:Secondly, why did you wink at the camera on a radio show? Thirdly, you complimented me about six or seven times.
48:15Romesh Ranganathan:It's very hard not to be complimented to you. Someone like Rick Edwards is amazing. Why are you telling me not to do it? And then you're going, I'll show you how you should do it. No, I didn't compliment you. You did? I was very, very dismissive. I don't think you were. I was more dismissive. I don't think you were dismissive. I thought you were pretty encouraging, actually. I didn't give you any big scale when I came in. I think Ricky Martin, if usually you'd be like, fucking hell, it's Ricky Martin! Do you know what I mean? So, yeah. What I'm saying is you need to be more measured, I guess. Yeah, but I thought what you did was shit.
48:45Yeah, I'm not an interviewer. By the way, did you not think, oh, as I was Justin Timberlake, you're like, fuck me. I think you could be a good interviewer. I'm not an interviewer. If I was interviewing, that would...
48:56Romesh Ranganathan:It's part of the thing, isn't it? Because a lot of the interviews, one of the things, one of the main things, because people think that interviewing is difficult, you actually have to have a basic foundational interest in other people that's where you that's where you also in stuff that they're into well you just have to be you have to be interested in hearing what someone else has to say i would i'd be the fall down because in that jill scott thing they go up you know oh make sure you listen to the album and i'll be like oh you know i've just played fifa all night last night listen to the album and then i'll probably just blag it through.
49:28Yeah. That's, yeah, we should do that. Yeah. And also you wouldn't be interested
49:32Romesh Ranganathan:and also you've not heard of Jill Scott. No, I mean Jill Scott, the footballer, I'd be great with him if I was interviewed now. Yeah. Okay, so we've cured my problem, I guess. Do you feel cooler? By which I say making it worse. I think, I think that I can see you going forward and being one of the great interviewers of our time. Can I just say, I think this studio has changed you a little bit. Why? Because you've started doing this thing now where you sort of run off on a train of thought and then send yourself into like a giggling thing. Because you know what it is? What? I find you really funny.
50:01I'm not doing anything. When you don't do anything, I find like the small little things that you say, I find really, really amusing. And your little looks. Because I know that you're going to come back with something that kicks my ass. I'm not trying to kick your ass. No, no, that's what I like. I like the ramptious nature of it. Yeah. I think I've always done this. I think it's more apparent because you're with me now. And quite a lot of the time in the old days, I was delayed. So you might see...
50:26Romesh Ranganathan:What would you do if we found out a few months in of doing this that actually the delay is what really makes us work? I'd probably do this. What do you mean? That. Oh, okay. It's not that long a delay. Sometimes it was. Not all the time. Yeah, sometimes. You turn around and go, yeah, I just ate some rhubarb. When have I said that? No, I'm just saying that. I actually don't think I've eaten rhubarb in the last decade. Really? I don't think so. What are you doing? Well, I'm eating other stuff. Rhubarb is delicious. I'm just saying, I'm not eating. One of the most delicious fruits out there. Rhubarb is?
51:04Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. One of the most delicious fruits? Mate, a rhubarb crumble. Better than pineapple? Pineapple is too. Okay, better than mango. Why are you putting poor rhubarb up against two of them? You know they're champions. Well, you said it's one of the most delicious. Better than apples, yes. You said it's one of the most delicious fruits, so I'm putting up some of the other delicious fruits. Okay, those two, but I'd say that rhubarb. Banana. Banana, look, I love banana, but banana is not as delicious as rhubarb. Banana is not as delicious as rhubarb. Mate, you get someone who knows what they're doing with rhubarb, you're in for a treat.
51:31You haven't had it for a decade. You get someone who knows what to do with a banana, you're in for a treat. Yeah, I've got to say, you haven't had rhubarb for ages, so it's a bit unfair for you to sit here criticising it. You haven't had it for a decade. Yeah, the reason I've not had it for a decade is because... Probably you had it cooked in some insignificant hands who didn't know what they were doing with it. No, I didn't have it cooked by something... I had it's stewed rhubarb. Enough sugar? I don't know. Sugar, you need it. It upsets the rhubarb.
51:57Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, that's what they say about all the naturally best tasting things. Do you know what I mean? It's good. Loads of sugar. You put enough sugar on a dog shit, it'll be edible. Rhubarb is not... Listen, I'm not dissing rhubarb. The flavour of rhubarb. I wish to... Rhubarb and custard in a donut. That is... Banana can't... Banana wouldn't even want to go anywhere near that. I would love a banana and custard donut. I will tell you now, if there's a donut place out there and they're looking for what is the biggest seller, get a rhubarb and custard, banana and custard, put them head to head. I guarantee everyone will go, because it was, well, I have the banana one, I don't want to take a risk.
52:38And then you'll literally be there and someone will have the rhubarb one and go, taste that, Trev. Oh, fucking hell,
52:44Romesh Ranganathan:that's amazing. By the way, a massive, considering somebody said I have a taste, he's taking a massive fucking bite there, Trev. I'd be so pissed off Right Tom Actually Wolfoutpod at gmail.com Yep So let me know If I'm being too horrible To rhubarb If Tom's being too nice To rhubarb Yeah Or neither Okay That is it for us today Tom Yeah Could you Could you please Do us the honours Of taking us out Well boy Martin the dog Looks out of his window outside other dogs were playing. They felt jealous, envious. He turned around to his owners who were kissing, fornicating on the sofa. They seemed like they'd got it all worked out.
53:35Martin scurrying round, started pawing at the door. They didn't listen. Shhh, dog, shush. So he ran upstairs and started barking, louder and louder, until someone let him out. Go on, go out if you need to. Martin ran outside and started running around with the other dogs. Before too long, the other dogs were called in as night came. Martin was left outside. He could see the light on in the bedroom upstairs. But they forgot that he was out there. He sat all night in the pouring rain, just thinking, God, when will they come and let me in? In the morning, Toby, his owner, opened the door and said, oh god Martin I forgot we left you out last night and they let him in what's the moral of this story well the grass is always greener and as you look outside or look into other people's lives you can go wow they've got it all worked out but sometimes what you're doing is closing the door and leaving a very sweet sweet space yourself don't look for answers in other people's worlds when the things you need are in yours thank you so much for sharing
54:46Romesh Ranganathan:that selection of disparate unconnected thoughts that's all we've got time for on the Wolf and Al podcast we'll see you next time peace out
From the publisher
What pictures did Tom send to Timothée Chalamet? How can Romesh improve his interview technique? And why does Tom dislike Ewoks?
Plus, impressions of Justin Timberlake and Ricky Martin and we debate just how good rhubarb is.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro00:55 - Rick and Morty and TV intros03:30 - Ewoks04:03 - Kids films?07:06 - The issue08:09 - Texting Timothee Chalamet20:30 - Jill Scott and Jill Scott28:01 - Compliments28:29 - Interviewing techniques29:20 - Justin Timberlake 45:56 - Giggling fits47:02 - Rhubarb49:16 - Martin the dog
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