In short
Listener email special focused on weddings, wedding “stand-up” moments, and food at events (prosecco vans, street-food stalls, burritos/tacos). They also discuss limerence vs real love and share personal wedding regrets (too many staged photos; convention taking over).
Key claims
limerence is a chemically driven infatuation with an idealized version of someone; it fades into real partnership.
Notable examples
registry-office wedding with a garden party, walking the aisle on a garden path, and a pork pie/cheese stand plus lemon wedding cake; a wedding with a prosecco van and street-food stations (samosa station, sandwiches, burritos).
Guests
No named guests; the episode is a Wolf and Banter Cannon email special featuring Tom Davis and Romesh (plus references to Catherine/Kat/Lisa and “Lucky Leopard” as the email writer).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOListener Email: Wedding Planning
0:45 to 2:44
Discussion on a listener's upcoming wedding and their unique plans.
“but the idea of you and David Hay both wearing those shirts by the way you just did a thing with your pecs then did I?”
Understanding Limerence
2:44 to 5:05
Exploration of the concept of limerence and its implications in relationships.
“so you can turn that workout up a notch.”
Wedding Reflections and Regrets
5:05 to 6:25
Tom and Romesh share their experiences and regrets about their own weddings.
“That's why when the Lucky Leopard said, we got together very quickly, that is one of the hallmarks of limerence.”
Food at Weddings
6:25 to 8:44
Discussion about food choices at weddings, including food vans and unique dishes.
“Firstly, I think your wedding, by the way.”
Culinary Experiences and Misunderstandings
10:10 to 14:00
Discussion about food experiences, including mispronunciations and favorite dishes.
“If Catherine's got a korma, I have some of it.”
Craving a Burger Van
14:00 to 14:18
The hosts discuss their favorite food and the idea of a burger van.
“I think you're being too harsh on yourself.”
Dreaming of a Taco Truck
15:17 to 15:31
A light-hearted discussion about what it would be like to run a taco truck after auditions.
“You go up for something, you don't get it, and then you go, look, I know I didn't get the part, but you will be seeing me.”
Wedding Invite and DJing Ideas
15:32 to 15:49
The hosts joke about a wedding invite and the idea of combining DJing with a burger van.
“Yeah, you might see me with my taco truck.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:14Hello friends, this is the Wolf and Owl email... Oh God. Jesus Christ. I was just so excited.
0:20Romesh Ranganathan:This is the Wolf and the Banter Cannon 1. Welcome to the email special of the Wolf and Banter Cannon. you know who you could give that shirt to David Hay because he sort of sees himself yeah he is the band of canon just shooting everywhere WolfFoulPod at gmo.com I've never ever done this where it's gone the band has gone because obviously you're the band of canon but the same jokers had a runner into two episodes but the idea of you and David Hay both wearing those shirts by the way you just did a thing with your pecs then did I? yeah that's incredible Yeah. How? I don't know you could do that.
1:01That's what I think that stack people do. Yeah. So just for, yeah.
1:05Romesh Ranganathan:For the audio listeners. Yeah. Romesh is flexing so hard. Since I mentioned David Hay. Yeah. He's doing like a thing in his banter cannon t-shirt. Okay. Dear Wolf and Al, I'm a long time listener. Started back in 2022 when I first found out about the pod. And I was newly in a whirlwind relationship where I moved in and lived with him after the first meeting. Wow. which is 24 hours after we started talking online. This sounds like limerence to me. What? Limerence. Have you heard about limerence? What's that? I'll talk to you about it in a minute. Happy to say that four years, it doesn't sound like limerence actually, it sounds like love.
1:35Romesh Ranganathan:Four years, four dogs, six chickens, two rabbits and a lot of life forward. We're engaged. Oh, this is a happy one. Planning our wedding for September this year. Don't worry, I'm not here to extend an invite. We're planning a registry office wedding and then celebrating with a garden party at home, including walking the aisle, aka my garden path, with my fiancé's brother-in-law officiating after being ordained by the Church of Dudism. Oh, man, I love this. This is my happiest thing. My question is this. What from your own weddings or other weddings you've attended were real stand-up moments that you think I could include in a celebration like mine?
2:07Romesh Ranganathan:I just want to have a nice day, filmed with fun and bringing two families together. I'm having a pork pie and cheese stand. Oh, my God. This is an incredible wedding. As well as a wedding cake, as I've not got a huge sweet tooth, and a lemon wedding cake for my husband. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, but overall, I'm just happy to email in. and hopefully hear your thoughts. I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, so I relate to Tom so much and appreciate his openness. Lots of love from the lucky leopard. I've attached an inspo pic for the pork and cheesecake for Tom's enjoyment. Oh my God.
2:34Romesh Ranganathan:Holy fucking shit. That's incredible. Wow, look at that.
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3:34Romesh Ranganathan:Have you heard about limerence? What is limerence? I might have got this wrong, but limerence is like, do you know when you first meet somebody and you're just, it's a really heady period? Yeah, yeah. Right? I think limerence, true limerence, is when you become chemically addicted to the other person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you become addicted to an idea of what that person is rather than the reality of them. So you meet somebody and you've got this idealized version of who they should be. And then every time they don't meet up to that, it's incredibly upsetting for you because you've decided what this person's like.
4:13Romesh Ranganathan:And they'll fall in love and make future plans with somebody. despite having known them a few days or whatever. That's limerence. I think I do that a lot. Do you think so? Yeah. So apparently, so then limerence happens, a sort of limerence happens whenever you meet somebody. Like it would have happened to, like a version of limerence would have happened. I might be getting this wrong. A version of limerence might have happened when you first got together with Kat. Yeah. And then what happens is, that's when you're chemically bonding to each other or neurochemical, I don't know, I'm using the wrong terms.
4:42Romesh Ranganathan:And then what happens is that fades because you can't be like that forever. And then you see what actually you've got. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because that sort of infatuation sort of dies down and you settle into a thing. And sometimes people, they get limerent about people and become really obsessive. And then the idea that they won't end up together is fucking heartbreaking. But actually it's not real. Wow. They're in love with a version of them. Wow. That's limerence. Wow. That's why when the Lucky Leopard said, we got together very quickly, that is one of the hallmarks of limerence.
5:18Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done that. I've done that.
5:20Romesh Ranganathan:But it doesn't sound like it. I mean, it could have been limerence that's turned into a real thing. Yeah, I think there was an era of limerence with me and Catherine. You think so? Yeah. I think there's an era of limerence, not with me, but Lisa was so thirsty. Was she? Oh, my God. I can't imagine Lisa being thirsty. I said to just chill out. Chill out. I can't imagine that at all. She was like that. I could imagine you being like that. What are you talking about? Oh, look over here. Can't you see me?
5:50It's so funny. Just everything I say right now, all I can look at you and just think is the banter cannon.
5:59Romesh Ranganathan:Apologies, but you've just been hit by the banter cannon. You've been hit by... Warning, I hope you're enjoying the wedding. Here's something you can do at the wedding. I could come along and go, here's a quick warning. Be careful that you don't catch any strays. from the banter canon. Watch out for Limerence guest. Have I told you about Limerence? I thought you were in Limerence, but you're married now. Firstly, I think your wedding, by the way. Sounds amazing. I do. It's great that they're doing the stuff they want to do. Yeah, exactly. That's, I think, the stuff that, when you break against convention a bit and do things a little differently, I think it's fun.
6:40I think my wedding, one of my favourite days of my life. But I think... Your wedding was? Yeah, I think we had a great day. But then there's some bits of it I wish we'd just been a bit more, I'll fuck it and just go on with... We originally were probably more like this. And then you get... We fall into a place of convention. We've got to do this at a certain time.
6:59Romesh Ranganathan:So what did you do that you regret? Do you know what? I know what Kat's regret. Banta cannon locked. I wish the banta cannon was there. That's one of my big regrets. I didn't know you well enough at that time. Didn't invite me, yeah. But... I invited you to my valet. Yeah. Fucking hell, she's a runner. If you want a runner, Jesus Christ, would you clip up all the bits where you bring this up? I feel really bad about that. And a bloody tour show. I wish I was there. I wish I cancelled that bloody show now. Yeah. It was actually a stinker as well. The, I wish, do you know, photos, I wish we hadn't done as many, like the staged photos.
7:32You wish you hadn't done as many. Oh. The staged ones. The staged photos. We hate them. We've never looked at them. Yeah, because they're awful. They're awful, but actually the pictures of us having fun with our guests and enjoying our moments together that weren't posed a lot better than, you know, the people at the wedding took. The candid snaps. Yes. Oh, wow. I love that. The candid snaps. Not here just for banter. The canon can fire some sense too. Yeah, please.
7:56Romesh Ranganathan:I'd love it if you got me one that said sense canon too. Sense canon. Oh, he's worried about the result, boys. That he's got his sense canon too shirt on. I would say, I always think, yeah, things are a little bit different. like a photo booth saw as a laugh I think but they've become all the rage now we had a Prosecco van that was quite a cool thing a little self little I ran a little Prosecco I went to one wedding and they just had all the street foods it's one of the best things I've ever seen Ben Green had a pizza van turn up oh yeah that's Ben for you he's a classy guy he's Ben we had such great food at our varigny we sort of looked at the guests and got stuff that they'd like but obviously we didn't have to take you into account because you didn't come what did you have what sort of food we had like little snacky bits there was a samosa station oh god I wish I'd been there for them samosa station yeah there's like a little podium with like loads of samosas and we had like biscuits and cake and sandwiches we had like cool stuff what's the difference between a stall and a station don't know actually I think it just sounds better doesn't it late on in the evening yeah brought out some burritos oh wow you love burritos about 10, 30, 11 yeah you're a burrito guy I am a Brito guy now.
9:10Romesh Ranganathan:You know what I like? Tiny little soft shell tacos. Yeah, nice. Rack them up, skin them up yourself. Little mouthful. Beautiful. I heard a story of a... You should have those, Lucky Leopard. Get tacos. A story of a guy who was a good burrito maker. And they decided to branch out. It was a friend of a friend's birthday. And he got sort of... Everyone was like, you should do your burritos at his birthday. I didn't go to this. This is a friend of a friend. And they said that the panic attack that this guy had, because basically he turned up to do the burritos thinking, oh, this will be great. I'm doing my burritos for everyone.
9:43And everyone wanted his burritos. And he had no experience in running a kitchen. So it was just apparently really overwhelming with people just shouting out different flavors and different things they wanted. And the guy that I know who went, he was like, oh, my God. It was an absolute panic attack.
10:01Romesh Ranganathan:Have you ever thought about opening up a food thing? I'd love to. What would you do? What if I was going to? Because I think this is a bit of you, actually. when you sort of think about people taking up side hustles yeah like you having a food truck yeah that is i'd love a so on brand for you it's tough probably do you know the thing that lucky enough for me i've had a few health issues we talked i don't want to get into it luckily lucky luckily i've had some health issues it's given me some content for the book um no but i i was on this diet where i couldn't i'm back now i've had to reintroduce things slowly do you have any food that I just at one point they were like you might have to stay away from this this and this the food that I was genuinely devastated and I was nearly in tears about there's one spicy food they were like you might not be able to eat spicy food and I was like the thought of going for the rest of my life I've never eaten a curry again I was like and now I can I've had well Catherine was like okay where did you get korma no well I'm saying you're easing yourself back into it that's a masala it's an ease back I'm not a fucking korma alright I have a korma.
11:05If Catherine's got a korma, I have some of it. I'm not ordering a korma.
11:07Romesh Ranganathan:Okay, fine. Literally. And that is a good principle to have. You'll eat somebody else's korma but not order your own. Yeah, I'm not. Fucking hell. What an edgy guy. What a real curry connoisseur. King, pour and puree. Yeah. Rogue and Josh. But yeah, I'm back on the curry. How was it eating the curry? Are you nervous? Yeah. Because I was like, this is, yeah. You know how many of them footballers have been injured? Like Saka has been out of the game for a while. Yeah. It's like, fucking hell, that first touch of the ball, the first kick, and we still got it. What did you order? I had a prawn puree to start.
11:36King prawn puree, this guy makes the best. Yeah.
11:38Romesh Ranganathan:I mean, I don't even have heard that dish before you said it just now. What? King prawn puree. Yeah. Puree. What do you call it? I don't know. Have you heard of king prawn puree? Puree is like, puree is like mashed up. Yeah, but it's like a, yeah. I've never heard that. King prawn puree. P-U-R-R-E-E, I think. Puri. Puri. I've been calling it a puree for years. They've never corrected me. King prawn puri is a popular Indian restaurant starter featuring spicy tangy and saucy prawns. Oh, on a puri? Yeah.
12:15I've been calling it a king prawn puri for the last 20 years. Is that not what it is? All me and my friends call it that. Oh, God. That is it. That's the dish. That's my welcome back. Okay, fine. It's the best thing.
12:30Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. and where's the puree in that dish I thought it was the sauce they probably minced up the garlic I think the sauce that's what I thought king prawn puree when you said it to me that's just like they give you a bowl of like baby food it's just like mashed up king prawn how's it pronounced puri puri yeah anyway king prawn puri I had that I think if you're getting puri just if you're getting what you want and when you say that just keep saying it you can't change a habit can I just say no I feel shameful that I've got that wrong all the time because I think you go to an Indian restaurant right my favourite sort of food and I'm getting the name wrong and they're so sweet and nice that they never turn around and go by the way it's this but you've not only been to that restaurant so that's happening everywhere yeah I've been going yeah because but this is the problem with my kind with me like we turn up and they feel so like what we should do is just go oh actually how do we pronounce that or we just take it as it is we do that in Spain we do that in France hold on a second you're being a bit harsh on yourself here you thought it was called King Pornpure yeah Puree, sorry.
13:30Romesh Ranganathan:Puree, yeah. Yeah, sorry. Mistakenly pronounced it correctly. So you thought it was called King Prawn Puree. Yeah. You've gone to an Indian restaurant and you said, can I get King Prawn Puree? Yeah. And they've brought you the dish that you wanted. Yeah, yeah. At what point are you supposed to reflect on what you've said? Because that's not what... Yeah, but you didn't know that. You're going to the thing. You're asking for the thing. They give you the thing you want. Yeah, yeah, but no. But more though, I just feel bad that that's not how it's pronounced. But look, you know now. Yeah. But I don't think you start feeling bad about the fact you've been calling it Puree all this time.
13:58Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, but it's so not the dish. Yeah, but you didn't know. But anyway. You're getting the dish you wanted. Yeah. I think you're being too harsh on yourself. I went back in. Curry was great. But I will say that the thing that I long for, and I'm still not, is a good burger. Yeah. I think a burger van would be what I'd like. Like a good high-class burger van. Yeah. I think you should open one. It's baseball, but so much more. Go bananas for Banana Ball with ESPN on Disney+. The greatest show in sports. Are you kidding me? It's the phenomenon everyone's talking about. The trick play to the plate.
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15:22Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Or you could go into film set. Yeah, but I feel a bit sad. It's so funny. You go up for something, you don't get it, and then you go, look, I know I didn't get the part, but you will be seeing me. Yeah, you might see me with my taco truck. Think about it. Yeah. Have we only done one email? Auditions have gone. That could be something I might do. We've only done one email. We've got to wrap up. Lucky Leopard, we'll see you at the wedding. Well, by the way, if that is an invite, I think that would be an amazing one. It's not an invite. Quite clear about it. But I think you DJing me, I could bring the burger van.
15:51Romesh Ranganathan:Great idea. If you want burgers and music, call someone. B-A-N-T-E. It's the Banner Cannon! Tick, tick, tick. Boom. Are you all ready for me yet? Wolfowpod at gmail.com. Get in touch. We love hearing from you. That's all from Tom Davis the Wolf and me, the motherfucking Banner Cannon. Peace.
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From the publisher
What does Tom regret about his wedding? Is Romesh holding a grudge again Tom? What do David Haye and Romesh have in common? Does anyone know what the difference is between a food stall and a food station? And should Tom open his own burger van business?
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro01:16 Wedding advice07:36 Food vans 09:48 King prawn puree
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