Democrats Face GOP Resistance on Reining In ICE

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Democrats Face GOP Resistance on Reining In ICE Date: February 4, 2023 Host: Alex Ossola Guests: Siobhan Hughes (Congressional Reporter), Hannah Aaron-Lang (Markets Reporter), Jared Malsin (Middle East Correspondent)

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Immigration Enforcement Bill Lagging in Congress
  2. Democratic Proposals:
  3. Democrats are advocating for restrictions on Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
  4. Key proposals include:
  5. Mandating ICE officers to carry identification and wear body cameras.
  6. Tightening rules on the issuance of warrants requiring judicial approval before entering homes.
  7. Republican Opposition:
  8. Republicans express skepticism regarding the Democrats’ proposals, particularly around warrants, fearing it impedes the expulsion of undocumented migrants.
  9. Some Republicans do support body cameras but emphasize the need for addressing "sanctuary cities" which limit local cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.
  • Funding Deadline:
  • Lawmakers face a February 13 deadline to reach an agreement on funding the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
  • There's a possibility of requiring short-term extensions to negotiate a comprehensive package.
  1. Current Market Conditions and Tech Selloff
  2. Market Overview:
  3. The tech sector is experiencing significant selloffs, with the Nasdaq down 1.5% and the S&P 500 following a similar trend.
  4. Investors are becoming cautious regarding the valuation of tech stocks, particularly in the context of AI investments.
  5. Notable Earnings Reports:
  6. Alphabet Inc.: Reporting a 30% increase in profit in Q4, attributed to growth in digital advertising and cloud computing.
  7. Eli Lilly: Surpassed expectations with strong sales of GLP-1 weight loss drugs.
  1. International Relations: Iran's Stance
  2. Diplomatic Tensions:
  3. Iran has shifted its diplomatic engagements, opting for narrower talks in Oman rather than a broader meeting in Turkey.
  4. The country is taking a hardline approach, as evidenced by military posturing against U.S. assets.
  5. Comparison to Previous Negotiations:
  6. Historical context provided by Jared Malsin suggests that Iran’s strategy involves leveraging pressure points, complicating the diplomatic landscape similar to past negotiations.
  1. Miscellaneous News
  2. Nike Investigation:
  3. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is investigating Nike for potential discrimination against white workers amid its diversity initiatives.
  4. Media Cuts:
  5. The Washington Post is reducing its workforce by one-third as part of a strategic shift in coverage focus.
  6. Art Market Update:
  7. A Rembrandt drawing sold for $15 million, signaling a resurgence in the art market post-recession.

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Key Takeaways

  • The negotiations regarding immigration enforcement reflect the deep partisan divide in Congress, particularly as the deadline for funding approaches.
  • The stock market's current trajectory highlights investor wariness related to tech valuations, particularly in artificial intelligence.
  • Iran's diplomatic maneuvers showcase classic negotiation tactics that may complicate future U.S. engagements.
  • Broader societal issues such as workplace discrimination and media industry shifts are also impacting the current news cycle.

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Conclusion This episode of WSJ What's News offers critical insights into pressing political negotiations, market dynamics, and international relations, encapsulating a snapshot of significant developments influencing the United States on multiple fronts.

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Market Updates and Tech Sell-Off

0:58 to 2:11

Discussion on the recent tech market declines and their implications.

“Markets reporter Hannah Aaron-Lang says the declines reflect the influence the big tech companies have on the indexes.”

Earnings Reports Overview

2:11 to 3:14

Overview of recent earnings reports from major companies and their market impact.

“So you're seeing that dynamic take shape again today.”

Nike’s Investigation and Media Cuts

3:14 to 4:20

Nike faces investigation regarding discrimination and media layoffs at The Washington Post.

“And in media, The Washington Post is cutting one-third of its staff across the newsroom and in other departments.”

Congressional Negotiations on Immigration

4:20 to 6:27

Details on Congress's negotiations regarding immigration enforcement and ICE.

“Turns out that might have been the easy part.”

Implications of Immigration Debates on Elections

6:27 to 8:06

Discussion on how immigration debates could affect upcoming elections.

“And she said, we are going to need at least one other short term extension in order to try to work out a package.”

Supreme Court Rulings and Congressional Map Changes

8:06 to 9:10

Updates on the Supreme Court's decision on congressional maps favoring Democrats.

“Supreme Court today allowed California to use a new congressional map that favors Democrats.”

Iran's Diplomatic Movements and Art Market Update

9:10 to 11:45

Analysis of Iran's recent diplomatic strategies and a major art auction.

“As we reported yesterday, it launched a drone at an American aircraft carrier and sent gunboats to harass a U.S.-flagged oil tanker.”
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0:00Siobhan Hughes:This is a new era of American innovation. The National Cancer Institute is using Google AI to help cancer researchers collaborate, identify patterns, recommend research and accelerate scientific discovery. Learn more at g.co slash American Innovation.

0:18Jared Malsin:Another big tech sell off on Wall Street brings the Nasdaq down with it. Plus, Republicans push back on Democrat efforts to rein in ice.

0:26Siobhan Hughes:So congressional Republicans have said some things are reasonable, the big one being the body cameras, but there are big fissures outside of that.

0:36Jared Malsin:And when it comes to diplomacy with the U.S., Iran is playing hardball. It's Wednesday, February 4th. I'm Alex Osaleff for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today.

0:54Jared Malsin:Another day, another tech sell-off. While the Dow finished up 0.5 % today, the Nasdaq closed down 1.5%, its fourth down session in the past five trading days. The S &P fell, too. Markets reporter Hannah Aaron-Lang says the declines reflect the influence the big tech companies have on the indexes. This is once again really concentrated in the tech sector. Most S &P 500 sectors are up today. That's basically telling us that these big tech stocks that have such a huge impact on the index overall because they're enormous companies, are weighing on the index, names like AMD, which is a chip maker, Palantir.

1:32Jared Malsin:And it seems like investors are reconsidering the AI trade. I had a source tell me today that investors for a while have been willing to kind of hold their breath and go with this momentum. But once that momentum starts to break, there's not a lot to hold on to. There have been these kind of longstanding fears about the artificial intelligence trade. If these stocks are overvalued, you're seeing a lot of those concerns come to the forefront again this week, but they aren't necessarily new. Another thing that we've seen recently is this rotation out of some of the biggest names in the AI trade into these less crowded bets like blue chips or even international equities.

2:11Jared Malsin:So you're seeing that dynamic take shape again today. In earnings news, Google parent Alphabet said its profit grew 30 percent in the fourth quarter. Revenue rose, too, thanks to growth in its digital advertising and cloud computing units, even as the company ramped up spending on artificial intelligence. Eli Lilly's latest quarterly profit and revenue grew and topped Wall Street expectations today thanks to big demand for its GLP-1 weight loss drugs. Sales of ZepBound and Malajaro more than doubled in the fourth quarter. The company is also preparing to launch a new weight loss pill that analysts say could be a hit since some patients prefer pills to injections.

2:50Jared Malsin:Shares jumped more than 10 percent. Federal regulators are investigating Nike for allegedly discriminating against white workers. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is looking into whether Nike's DEI objectives resulted in, quote, a pattern or practice of disparate treatment against white employees. It's seeking information on how Nike selects workers for layoffs and how it tracks workers' race and ethnicity. Nike didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. And in media, The Washington Post is cutting one-third of its staff across the newsroom and in other departments. The newspaper says it's a strategic reset that will mean less coverage of sports and international news, with a focus on national news and features, investigations, and advice on health and wellness topics.

3:37Jared Malsin:In Minnesota, the Trump administration is pulling 700 of the approximately 3 ,000 federal officers and agents out of the state. Border czar Tom Homan announced the drawdown today, but he made it clear that the administration plans to continue large-scale immigration operations in Minneapolis.

3:53Hannah Erin Lang:My goal with the support of President Trump is to achieve a complete drawdown and end this surge as soon as we can. But that is largely contingent upon the end of the illegal and threatening activities against ICE and its federal partners that we're seeing in the community.

4:15Jared Malsin:About 2 ,000 officers will stay to carry out immigration enforcement in the state. In Washington, Congress yesterday ended a partial government shutdown and narrowly approved a$1.2 trillion spending package. Turns out that might have been the easy part. As part of that deal, Republicans and Democrats now have less than two weeks to negotiate legislation that would place new restrictions on immigration enforcement, one of the nation's thorniest policy debates, before the temporary funding for the Department of Homeland Security runs out on February 13th. For more on where the negotiations go from here, I'm joined by congressional reporter Siobhan Hughes from the Senate Press Gallery.

4:52Jared Malsin:Siobhan, we got here because after the shooting of Alex Preddy in Minneapolis, Democrats are asking for changes to how immigration officials operate. What are Democrats asking for?

5:01Siobhan Hughes:What they want is for ICE to be reined in. So Democrats have a whole list of demands. It's things like mandating that immigration officers carry their ID, that they wear body cameras. Also, tightening rules on use of warrants, that you'd be required to go to a judge to get a warrant before you force your way into somebody's home.

5:22Jared Malsin:A lot of Republicans don't seem super optimistic about these negotiations. Where do congressional Republicans stand on Democrats' demands?

5:30Siobhan Hughes:So congressional Republicans have said some things are reasonable, the big one being the body cameras. And in fact, there was about$20 million in the prior DHS bill for those body cameras. But there are big fissures outside of that. For example, Republicans simply don't trust Democrats on the warrants issue. They think that what Democrats are trying to do is make it impossible to expel the migrants who have entered the country illegally. And then on top of that, Republicans say, you know, wait a second, if you want to reopen this conversation about immigration, well, we too have some demands. And what we would like is to end so-called sanctuary cities, those localities where local officers are effectively barred from working with the immigration officers.

6:15Siobhan Hughes:These negotiations are likely to be very, very difficult. And in fact, just moments ago, I caught up with Senator Katie Britt, who is the top Republican on the subcommittee that funds the Homeland Security Department. And she said, we are going to need at least one other short term extension in order to try to work out a package.

6:34Jared Malsin:So what does that mean for funding for Border Patrol, ICE and the other agencies within DHS if they're not going to hit this deadline?

6:40Siobhan Hughes:Well, it means different things for different entities. In the big, beautiful bill that was enacted last year, there was$75 billion for ICE. There was$65 billion for customs and border protection. And so those entities have money regardless of what Congress does. But there are other entities housed within DHS that could potentially be at risk. If you are a TSA agent working at the airports or if you're somebody who works for FEMA, that's where the problem could come. And it's not hard to imagine a scenario in which Congress does multiple of these short-term continuing resolutions or even throws their hands up and decides we're not going to reach a deal.

7:21Siobhan Hughes:Let's just fund this through the end of the fiscal year.

7:24Jared Malsin:Of course, Siobhan, I don't have to tell you this is a midterm year. Could these negotiations and what comes out of them play a role in the election?

7:32Siobhan Hughes:This is going to be a major role in the elections. Republicans are hoping that Democrats overplay their hand here and that you hear so many cries of defund ICE that it reminds people that it was the Biden presidency in which millions of people entered the country illegally. Democrats would like to put a focus on the fact that Donald Trump's immigration policy resulted in the death of two American citizens in Minneapolis. us.

8:03Jared Malsin:That was Wall Street Journal reporter Siobhan Hughes. Thanks so much, Siobhan. Good to be here. And also in Washington, the U.S. Supreme Court today allowed California to use a new congressional map that favors Democrats. Several red and blue states have been redrawing their maps in recent months, efforts to improve their party's chances of controlling the House of Representatives in the midterms. Coming up, the latest on the U.S. negotiations with Iran and what a multi-million sale of a tiny Rembrandt drawing shows about the art market. That's after the break.

8:40Siobhan Hughes:This is a new era of American innovation. Using Google AI, Etsy is making it easier for shoppers to discover unique creations and helping sellers connect with the people who love their work. Learn more at g.co slash American Innovation.

8:59Jared Malsin:Iran has abandoned a planned meeting with the U.S. and regional officials in Turkey that was scheduled for Friday. The country is pushing instead for a narrower discussion in Oman. And Iran is also making military moves. As we reported yesterday, it launched a drone at an American aircraft carrier and sent gunboats to harass a U.S.-flagged oil tanker. WSJ Middle East correspondent Jared Moussen says Iran's changes to the plan discussions are part of a strategy to throw the U.S. off balance.

9:26Hannah Erin Lang:Iran is trying to do two things. Number one, they're trying to put pressure back on the U.S. after the Trump administration has been dialing up the pressure on Iran in response to the crackdown on these protests that took place in December and January. and Iran's also trying to get a format and a venue for the upcoming negotiations that will be more advantageous to them.

9:49Jared Malsin:Jared says this is a classic Iranian negotiating technique.

9:53Hannah Erin Lang:According to former U.S. nuclear negotiators and other people who are familiar with Iran's tactics, they will agree to something and then essentially walk that back. What it shows is that this recent pivot by the Trump administration, where they're giving diplomacy a chance, that's going to be challenging. The last nuclear deal with Iran that the Obama administration signed in 2015, that took years of difficult, careful diplomacy. One former diplomat compared it to pulling teeth just to get each piece of it done. And Trump has a very different style. He wants to do deals quickly. So we'll see how this goes.

10:31Jared Malsin:The White House has said it's committed to finding a diplomatic solution and that talks will go ahead. The 60-year-old man who was convicted of trying to assassinate President Trump got a life sentence today. Prosecutors say Ryan Ruth planned to kill Trump at a Florida golf club in September 2024 during the presidential campaign. Ruth represented himself during the trial and told the jury he never intended to kill Trump. His court-appointed lawyer had asked for a 27-year sentence.

11:02Jared Malsin:And finally...

11:03Hannah Erin Lang:Sold at$15 million. The title 2116. Thank you very much.

11:07Jared Malsin:That's the sound of a record-breaking sale for a drawing by the Dutch master Rembrandt. The tiny chalk drawing of a lion was sold at auction at Sotheby's today for$15 million, as you just heard. And after adding in sales tax and other fees, the final price was$17.9 million. Young Lion Resting now ranks as one of the priciest drawings ever sold at auction and is the latest sign that the art market is roaring back after a years-long slump. And that's what's news for this Wednesday afternoon. Today's show was produced by Pierre Bien-Aimé and Alexis Moore with supervising producer Tali Arbel. I'm Alex Osola for The Wall Street Journal.

11:44Jared Malsin:We'll be back with a new show tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening.

11:59Siobhan Hughes:The spirit of innovation is deeply ingrained in America, and Google is helping Americans innovate in ways both big and small. The National Cancer Institute used Google AI to develop NANCY, an app that helps cancer researchers collaborate, identify patterns, recommend research, and accelerate scientific discovery. This is a new era of American innovation. Learn more at g.co slash American Innovation.

From the publisher

P.M. Edition for Feb. 4. In Congress, Democrats are pushing for new limits on immigration-enforcement agents, but they’re running into resistance from Republicans. Journal reporter Siobhan Hughes joins from the Capitol to discuss the likelihood that lawmakers will meet the February 13 deadline to fund the Homeland Security Department. Plus, another tech selloff weighs on Wall Street. Markets reporter Hannah Erin Lang discusses the AI worries gripping investors. And as Iran and the U.S. plan diplomatic talks, Iran is playing hardball. WSJ Middle East correspondent Jared Malsin says it’s a playbook negotiators have seen before. Alex Ossola hosts.

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