In short
Markets and politics roundup. A strong May jobs report (172,000 jobs; unemployment 4.3%) boosted growth expectations, but weak wage growth and rising inflation fears made rate cuts less likely and triggered a tech selloff (Nasdaq -4.2%). SpaceX IPO chatter: Morgan Stanley projected revenue up to $3.4T by 2040, driven by rapid growth in its small AI business; Google cloud deal nearly $1B/month. Index rules: S&P Dow Jones won’t fast-track new IPOs into the S&P 500 (wait at least a year), unlike Nasdaq-linked funds.
Guests
Matt Grossman (WSJ economics reporter) and Imani Moiz (Markets host); Scott Calvert (WSJ reporter) discusses government credit-card spending examples (e.g., $264 flounder tab, Daytona beer-can coolers, Costco groceries, $276 ammunition).
Key claims
investors may overpay for mega-IPO stocks; forced index buying could cause short-term runups then pullbacks.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOStrong Jobs Growth and Market Reactions
0:00 to 0:22
Discussion on the strong jobs report and its implications for the economy and Fed policy.
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Strong Jobs Growth and Market Reactions
0:34 to 3:01
Discussion on the strong jobs report and its implications for the economy and Fed policy.
“Plus, the Nasdaq had its worst day of 2026, falling more than 4 % on worries about inflation and AI demand.”
SpaceX IPO and Market Impact
3:12 to 4:38
Analysis of SpaceX's upcoming IPO and its potential impact on the market and investors.
“And as the company works to drum up investor interest, banks are sharing their projections with select investors.”
Index Fund Strategies and Mega IPOs
4:38 to 7:11
Exploration of how index funds are handling mega IPOs and associated risks.
“Earlier this week, we told you about the firms behind indexes like the Nasdaq 100 that were making it easier to add companies to their benchmarks just after they go public in this year of the mega IPO.”
Nervous Investors and Tech Stock Trends
7:11 to 7:56
Insight into investors' concerns regarding tech stocks and inflation.
“Any sign of weakness can prompt a sell-off.”
Nervous Investors and Tech Stock Trends
8:03 to 8:35
Insight into investors' concerns regarding tech stocks and inflation.
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Government Spending Controversies
8:47 to 11:45
Discussion on recent controversies regarding government officials' spending habits.
“Trump says the office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees 18 federal intelligence agencies and units, is too big or just unnecessary.”
Ukraine Peace Talks Update
11:45 to 12:19
Update on Ukraine's efforts to revive peace talks with Russia and recent responses.
“You heard from us yesterday about Russian elite's pessimism about the Ukraine war.”
Transcript
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0:33Matt Grossman:Another month of strong jobs growth is making it more likely that the Fed will raise interest rates, not cut them. Plus, the Nasdaq had its worst day of 2026, falling more than 4 % on worries about inflation and AI demand. And$264 for a fish dinner? Public official spending is making taxpayers furious. There was beer can coolers in Daytona Beach, Costco groceries in Connecticut, and there's another community in North Carolina where somebody bought ammunition with their town credit card. It's Friday, June 5th. I'm Alex Osilev for The Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today.
1:18Matt Grossman:The jobs market had another strong showing in May. A report out today from the Labor Department says that the U.S. added 172 ,000 jobs last month, blowing past analyst expectations. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate held steady at 4.3 percent. WSJ economics reporter Matt Grossman says that suggests the labor market is recovering from a weaker period last fall and winter. We got a really strong jobs report for May. And not only that, but we got really strong upward revisions to job creation in March and April. And so now things are looking really a lot brighter than they were at the start of the year.
1:54Over many of the past several months, health care and social services and education were some of the most important sectors in hiring. Things have broadened out quite a bit. So in May, hiring was really strong in leisure and hospitality. That's jobs like restaurant and hotel workers. There were job gains in manufacturing and construction. And local governments actually added a lot of workers as well.
2:21Matt Grossman:But Matt says that many people are still anxious about the job market and the economy. It can still be a frustrating labor market if you're someone who is looking for a job and you've been on the sidelines for a long time. And wage growth in May was pretty weak. And that's been a trend for several months now. Stagnating wage growth is coming at a time when expenses are rising. And obviously, that's a really challenging combination. As for the Fed, this report makes a rate cut less likely than a rate hike this year. Some Fed officials have already begun suggesting that in recent days, and futures markets reflect a roughly 50 percent bet that the Fed will raise rates at its October meeting.
2:58Matt Grossman:That meeting is less than a week before the midterms. That might be a tough situation for the new Fed chair Kevin Warsh, who President Trump picked because he wants him to lower interest rates.
3:11Matt Grossman:SpaceX is expected to make its stock market debut next week in what could be the biggest IPO ever. And as the company works to drum up investor interest, banks are sharing their projections with select investors. Morgan Stanley is one of the banks working with SpaceX on its IPO. We're exclusively reporting that the bank told its top investors that SpaceX's revenue could reach $3.4 trillion in 2040. Last year, SpaceX posted revenue of$18.7 billion and a loss of$4.9 billion. So how would the company hit Morgan Stanley's projections? Bankers anticipate that revenue from SpaceX's small AI business will grow dramatically and that it'll make up the bulk of the company's revenue after this year.
3:53Matt Grossman:And today, SpaceX said that Google has agreed to pay it nearly a billion dollars a month in a cloud computing deal. That gives SpaceX a new stream of revenue for its AI business. Meanwhile, thousands of current and former SpaceX employees who own a piece of the company are eagerly awaiting the IPO. These engineers, technicians, and baristas who worked on SpaceX campuses will be able to cash in way more easily after SpaceX is public, earning them thousands or even millions of dollars. And for more on SpaceX, on What's New Sunday, we'll be discussing how its IPO could redefine the global space economy.
4:26Matt Grossman:And WSJ's Take on the Week podcast, also out this Sunday, will be digging into whether SpaceX is really worth its targeted$1.77 trillion valuation.
4:38Matt Grossman:Earlier this week, we told you about the firms behind indexes like the Nasdaq 100 that were making it easier to add companies to their benchmarks just after they go public in this year of the mega IPO. Some index providers say this helps track the market more accurately, but skeptics say it can add risk for investors because there's not as much public information available about newly listed companies, and they could be paying too much for the stock. Investors expected the S &P 500 to fast-track IPOs too. But now S &P Dow Jones indices says that it actually won't do that. The decision means that the newly listed companies will have to wait at least a year before they can be included in the index.
5:16Matt Grossman:WSJ investing columnist Jason Zweig has been following the issue, and earlier this week he told us index providers should keep the best interests of investors, not the companies, in mind. But he says that if you want to hop on the mega IPO train, there are plenty of ways to do that more quickly. If you would like to own SpaceX and the other mega IPOs that are expected later this year, you could certainly buy any of the major index funds that are linked to the NASDAQ 100. Those IPOs will also be going into other index funds, for example, Russell 1000 index funds, you would not be able to access them through an S &P 500 index fund.
6:00And that's a clear distinction that basically said they're doing this to protect the historical integrity of the process that determines which companies get added to the S &P 500. And the S &P 500 has always had criteria around profitability and the quality of a company's earnings.
6:23Matt Grossman:He says that people invested in index funds that are adding the mega IPO companies might find that they're overpaying. A lot of market analysts expect that in the first five to 15 trading days after the SpaceX IPO, the stock could really run up in anticipation of the forced buying by index funds. And a lot of people anticipate that that price run-up might decline after that. We don't know that that's going to happen, but that certainly is the view of a lot of experienced people in the market. Tech stocks sold off heavily today, reflecting just how nervous investors remain about the AI trade. As our What's News in Markets host, Imani Moiz, explains, Any sign of weakness can prompt a sell-off.
7:13We got a stronger-than-expected jobs report. That means that inflation could be a problem again. That makes the Fed less likely to cut interest rates. And the market has really been holding out hope for lower interest rates because that usually sends stocks higher. The other thing going on in the background is that chip stocks are having a bit of a reset after we've seen them have these meteoric rises so far this year. So Broadcom reported earnings earlier this week, and the company didn't raise its guidance like a lot of the chip makers did before it.
7:42Matt Grossman:So investors are starting to question, well, how much more room do these chip stocks have to go? The Nasdaq fell 4.2 percent today, its worst day of 2026. And for the week, it sank 4.7 percent, its worst week in more than a year. The S &P declined 2.6 percent today, which translates to a loss of$1.8 trillion in market cap. Coming up, Ukraine pushes to revive peace talks with Russia. That and more after the break.
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8:46Matt Grossman:Turning now to Washington. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal today, President Trump said he wants the incoming acting director of national intelligence, Bill Pulte, to begin firing a large number of employees as part of a shakeup of the U.S. intelligence community. Trump says the office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees 18 federal intelligence agencies and units, is too big or just unnecessary. The president said that he hopes Pulte can make changes across the intelligence community before a permanent intelligence director is confirmed. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have sounded alarms this week about Pulte's appointment.
9:21Matt Grossman:They say Pulte doesn't have national security experience, and they're concerned he will use his position to target the president's perceived enemies and politicize the agency. Pulte didn't respond today to requests for comment.
9:36Matt Grossman:There's backlash brewing about government spending, but not in the way you might think. In towns and cities across the U.S., watchdogs are blowing the whistle on how local officials use their government credit cards. Like, for example, eight people who work for a small North Carolina city racking up a$264 restaurant tab for stuffed flounder. WSJ reporter Scott Calvert found examples of this kind of thing all over the country. Hi, Scott. Hi. So the flounder situation, what are some other examples of stuff officials have spent money on that's making taxpayers freak out? There was beer can coolers in Daytona Beach, Costco groceries in Connecticut.
10:13And there's another community in North Carolina where somebody bought ammunition with their town credit cards. That was$276. You've got the$33 a pop stuff flounder entrees, you know, times eight. Individually, they're not, you know, they're not huge, but they add up.
10:28Matt Grossman:But I mean, state and local governments spend millions and even billions of dollars a year on all kinds of things. So why are people so upset about these small transactions? Well, I think it's because there is that relatability factor. I mean, when people are going to the grocery store now and they're seeing these high prices, they might skip on buying things that cost a lot. And some of these same things are being, you know, purchased by these government officials using essentially their tax dollars. And it's also just this sense that some of these purchases, they just don't seem like something that serves the public, right?
11:00There's not a government purpose for some of these things. For example, there was an auditor in Florida who felt the need to remind folks there that, you know, in most cases, you have to pay for your own food. That's the way it works in life.
11:12Matt Grossman:So I'm really curious what the aftermath or blowback of this has been. Have any officials been charged or fired over this? What they're flagging really ranges from what they would consider just wasteful spending, a little bit extravagant, right, unnecessary, all the way to alleged criminal conduct. And there was one case in a little town in North Carolina where just last month, the former town manager was indicted on a felony embezzlement charge. He declined to comment when I reached out to him. So we'll have to see how that plays out. But some of this stuff, it can result in serious potential consequences.
11:44Matt Grossman:That was WSJ reporter Scott Calvert. Thanks, Scott. Thank you.
11:53Matt Grossman:You heard from us yesterday about Russian elite's pessimism about the Ukraine war. With Kyiv gaining momentum, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is seeking to revive peace talks, and he sent a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin offering to meet and bring the fighting to an end. It's the first such letter from Zelensky to Putin since Russia's 2022 invasion. Speaking at a major economic forum in St. Petersburg today, Putin's answer was no. Instead, he addressed Russian soldiers on the front line, telling them to keep fighting. And that's What's News for this week. Tomorrow, you can look out for our weekly markets wrap-up, What's News in Markets.
12:29Matt Grossman:Then on Sunday, we'll be discussing SpaceX. That's in What's News Sunday. And we'll be back with our regular show on Monday morning. Today's show is produced by Danny Lewis and Anthony Bansi with supervising producer Tali Arbel. Michael LaValle wrote our theme music. Aisha El-Muslim is our development producer. Chris Zinsley is our deputy editor. And I'm Alex Osula. Have a great weekend and thanks for listening.
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From the publisher
P.M. Edition for June 5. The U.S. added 172,000 jobs in May, the third month in a row of steady gains. Economics reporter Matt Grossman explains why job-seekers may not be sharing that optimism. Plus, a sharp selloff in tech stocks led the Nasdaq to its worst day of 2026. What’s News in Markets host Imani Moise says investors are worried about higher interest rates and AI demand. And… a $419 hotel tab on a family vacation? DoorDash orders totaling $1,576? Scott Calvert discusses how public watchdogs are blowing the whistle on local officials’ spending, and why taxpayers are so angry about it. Alex Ossola hosts.
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