#29 Taxi Driver Serial Killer

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0:54Denis:Welcome to this week's episode of Your Internet Boyfriends. Hello, Mark T. Cox. Hello, Dennis Lynn. This week we're talking about serial killers. And I'll be telling Dennis all about a very erotic cultural event. There's a lot of new albums coming out. Mariah Carey, they're all coming. I don't know, is it like... Kesha. Kesha new album? Yeah. Oh, I missed it. I think so. Taylor Swift.

1:23Someone else. They're all kind of dropping them. Kind of like sudden drops. I think Taylor Swift is going showgirl. She's too much. She's five albums a year. She's out of control. I respect Taylor Swift. I wouldn't dare say another word. Move on. They are my friend. I love Taylor Swift. My friend, prominent, busy woman drag queen on the television, once said something negative about Taylor Swift. death threats still gets DMs from very angry like 12 year olds so you can't really tell them to piss off still goes on she said one thing in a video they are so I love Taylor Swift let it be said

2:16Denis:I for one love our overlord Taylor Swift love Taylor Swift and all the albums yeah I think she's great nothing else to say I went to a cultural event oh yeah no it's a couple of weeks ago but I forgot to tell you last week a cultural event a book launch beautiful my friend Ollie Raptor he is Ollie Raptor how is his second name? R A P T-O-R like a dinosaur yeah I mean it's not his real name it's his name queer people have five names tell them Ollie Raptor is one of the coolest names I've ever heard you'll remember it look him up now look him up I'd say in a discreet setting you know because he's a photographer who does a lot of intimate photography and he's been doing this for years and years and years and it's so nice he's like a very smart book now has been made like a really like expensive looking coffee table like book full of dirt like I was going to bring it and I don't think I can actually show you I don't know it's very intense I have lots of experience recently yeah in gay photography okay well this is this is everything well the thing I was at was everything okay saw a lot a lot of things at this bum halls everything yeah all sorts of things there was it was at this very swish hotel in Hoxton the art hotel it's spelled weird do you know it's like a big new building near old street very nice to have that stuff in a very smart setting because we're always shoved into bloody warehouses and crappy little places that are about to be demolished so yeah all the gays were there, it was very funny because the door of the hotel is very hard to find so I was there early and I was waiting for my friend and the building is a big circle so you just had all these gays circling around and I ended up being like the door person.

4:23Every time I saw a gay, I was like, it's in here. I know what you're, you have a little earring. Come on in. Made friends with one of them. Oh, nice. Made great friends with one of them, actually. We met up again after.

4:35Denis:Yeah, what did you do? Ah, Sherlock. But it was lovely. And then it was like this big cinema room for a talk, like a very nice curated discussion about the book. What is the book? The book is photographs. of people with no clothes on kind of cruising and it's like capturing this moment post Covid rise in cruising and like outdoor sex and there's a big resurgence of this now the last couple of years people can get out there people are kind of just fed up with the apps and the nonsense and people are just actually going back to how it used to be back in the day just go you know browse around and have a personal kind of a little moment as a straight man venturing through the gay world recently i went i went to uh an exhibit in the getty museum in la when i was over there yeah and it was um it's called gay lens yeah and it was the history of gay photography some of the some of the photographs in there were featuring some of the like early cruising in New York they were saying that the photographer couldn't release the pictures of these people cruising until after they died yeah yeah so these are these are pictures from let's say like the 60s 70s or whatever yeah and so you could see the guys there but they couldn't couldn't release any of the photographs was there a lot of stuff like down the docks down the river one of the most amazing bits of it was a person took photographs I think it was in New York took photographs of sex workers and paid them their rate to take their photograph.

6:20Denis:And there were some amazing photographs of these people outside kind of, you know, like diners and car parks and whatever. But it would say their name and then it would give their rate afterwards, which I thought was impressive. But it went through all the years. It went through like, you know, up to present day from, I'm not sure, maybe like 100 years ago, 120 years ago. But it was a lot. Like it was a lot. You're going through it going, oh, that's very interesting. That's very interesting. And you're going, oh God, God, this is heavy. Like this is, you know, like this is actually weighing on me a little bit.

6:49So sad. But then it comes, because like the 60s and 70s were very specific because HIV didn't exist. Yeah. So let's go. And then suddenly there was this massive big panic and risk and concern. But then I think that's why it's become so popular again because you can prevent HIV now. And so many things, there's so much science now that people are kind of, I won't say more adventurous but there's you can be smart and you can protect yourself so all of that very very serious panic that was there 20 years ago is slowly being kind of broken down so yeah he's kind of he's documenting it now and then maybe in 50 years time it'll be little

7:35Denis:Is he documenting like the regular people they're not like going out there to make this a mixture Sure, I'd say. So he might just stumble across people and be like, oh, do you want to have your picture taken? Or he might arrange in advance and go with somebody and do a proper photo shoot. It's a mixture. He's real cool. Yeah, I'll bring you the book next week, maybe. Do? Yeah. Like I said, I've seen all sorts. It's great. And then the whole discussion. Do you know what I found very funny? Ollie is he's a very humble he's a very direct kind of person and he doesn't over kind of philosophy or anything about his work he's like I like taking these pictures they look good they're documenting a particular thing that's it like it's you know that's it but then the Q &A I oh my god the Q &A everyone in the audience wanted to like kind of give their own little lecture.

8:40It's very interesting, the people that put up the hand to ask a question in a Q &A. And they kind of, I think they want everyone to be very impressed by their language and their flowery descriptions of things. And I'm like, you're just boring everybody. It's their moment. Oh, it's their moment.

8:58Denis:And they do quite a big, because I've been with these Q &As and they do quite a big introduction of themselves as well. Oh yeah. Like their bio is long. Oh yeah You know It's not just the question They're asking The question is like Nothing Like not even that interesting But it's I'm gonna make sure This room Oh I'd be mortified Because I actually I should be more confident I had a question But I just couldn't be arsed But there was a few people It's funny What was your question? Oh it was something to do With like I suppose just the It was kind of around like The risk of like Highlighting things that's, you know, you bring an attention to a thing and then you're going to lose the mystery or the secrecy of things.

9:44And there's a lot, there's always a lot of that about like documentaries

9:50and articles about places. There's a risk that then it might bring too much attention and then it might lose.

9:56Denis:It's like when we put up a clip mentioning the bushes and you were in the comments going, I don't say where the bushes are. Do not say where they are. I don't. you mentioned last week about serial killers and then you didn't go back to that tell us. I did, so on my big old trip over in LA, there were so many things happened but one of the things that happened that was a bit mad was we wanted to go to if you're going visiting LA listen to this very carefully we wanted to go to Chinatown in LA get some food, walk around Chinatown in London, New York you know it's it's like it's like the movie you know you're going down there having a good old date um seeing all this lovely culture and food and blah blah la is not like that there isn't really the same china tone it's it was at a time when it should have been really busy it's it was empty and had huge streets and was not it didn't seem like you know you're kind of going i don't know if we should get out here you know certain parts where i was like this so anyway we're in an uber and uh i hadn't really spoken to the uber guy but he was listening to uh which i always think is a little bit of a flag was he was listening to like the news driving people around but it's like you know talk news oh you know and it's like you're kind of going oh is this is this his opinions you know whatever it wasn't that bad like but it was kind of you know getting there like you know and i was like okay cool so we're driving along and uh then we said to him here look you know, we kind of made a mistake here, but we don't really want to be here.

11:30Denis:We're actually going to head up towards Silver Lake, but at the same time, it's kind of so dodgy where we are right now. We would really appreciate if we could just stay in this Uber and drive with you. And usually that's a problem, right? Because they might have booked another job or they'll get pissed off. And he said, absolutely no problem. And I was like, oh, thanks so much for accommodating that. Like, you know, that's so good. So we're driving along and then the conversation starts. He says, where are you from? And I said, oh, I'm from Ireland. and i said um you know but uh we're both living in london um and they're like cool i was like where are you from he's like oh i'm from a place um in new york and then he said uh oh there's a couple of famous people from there right so i was like oh who's who's famous from there and he goes uh oh there's a big serial killer i was like oh cool great and i was like what what one is it like and he's like oh the son of sam do you know the son of sam and i was like oh it's the summer of Sam and he's like yeah yeah somewhere Sam and I'm like okay cool he is a general thing he's telling us and he goes yeah yeah I used to hang out with him oh and I was like is this the fucking son of Sam driving us and then I was trying to think was the son of Sam caught you know because he might be like the Zodiac killer or something oh my god it was me and I was like oh no is this is this over and I'm looking over at Lisa and Lisa is fucking petrified and I'm going oh so like how do you how do you know him like you know like and he goes oh I used to play drafts with him and my aunt my aunt was really good friends with his mother and I was just like nice guy yeah good guy and I was I was like oh did you let him win you know ha ha ha and yeah then he goes and of course you know what he used to do he used to he starts he starts telling us like what does here in the Roussoun he's like Irish people yeah it's stupid stupid Irish people and Lisa's going oh thank god I'm fine He goes, yeah, going after brunettes.

13:27Denis:That was his thing. So then, you know, the women would dye their hair blonde and stuff, you know. And then he's going to Lisa. You'd be fine. You know, and I'm like, oh, my God, get us out of the fucking car. We're going to fucking die. And then, thankfully, he did clear it up for me. And he goes, you know, they caught him because of parking tickets. And I was like, oh, thank Christ. Oh, they thought they caught him. Me all along. Anyway, have you seen my huge knife I have? that was terrifying oh I'd shit I was because we couldn't get out right we weren't in a good spot yeah right so I didn't want to get out if you start panicking he'll kill you like the thing is I look like a tourist like when I'm wandering around but you know at the same time yeah I'm fine but like you know you've met Lisa like Lisa doesn't look like she's from around there at all and English Rose and I was like this lad is going to chop us up into tiny fucking bits oh my god and in the end he was just lovely I don't know about that story what do you mean Sam Son of Sam yeah it was a famous one it's in a well I mean they're all famous for all the wrong reasons but it's there's a movie called Summer of Sam and there was this guy just going around as you do killing a particular type of person when?

14:39Denis:in like the 70s I think oh this guy old no he he wasn't that old like the guy the guy the serial killer at the time I think was only about I'd say he was only about 20 tea or something. He was quite young. But he was going around and everyone started dyeing their hair differently, cutting their hair. Started doing all these things. And he did get caught because of parking tickets. He ran up a lot of parking tickets and they caught him because of that. But thankfully anyway, I didn't get turned into absolute mincemeat. A sneeze there. A little sneeze. Charge more for that. What could you do? I mean, what do you do in this?

15:18You just keep talking do you?

15:20Denis:Yeah, I kept him talking. I kept him talking for ages. And I had the phone down looking if he was sending us towards the burger place. I was like, if this starts veering off, it's all off. Burger's nice? Burger was exceptional. Yeah. The burgers over in America are just better. The size of your head. Oh, they were brilliant. In a place called Irv's Burgers. Yeah. Irv's Burgers. It actually features in Wayne's World. Cool. But, oh my God. Go up, order the burger. I got a double roadside. Oh, Americans, I have something. Americans, right, there's a lot of people listening to the United States. You need to get yourselves together.

15:55Denis:Mark, have you ever seen Americans ordering stuff? Oh, I'm going to take a side of this. I'm going to add this. My God. They don't know what they're ordering when they get up there. It's so annoying. I'm going to do some of this. Can I get the double roadside? And yeah, can I get the... I'm going to read the mail. Can I get the... Do you have cucumber? Yeah, yeah, we do. Okay, can I get cucumber? and then they get a call from someone and go, do you want a double roadside? And you're just like, Christ. I'm going to do an extra portion. I'm going to, yeah. Just get your order together. And then an Irish person goes up and they're like, what do you want?

16:30Denis:No, no, I'm fine. Oh, I wouldn't possibly. Whatever you have. Scraps off the bin. They need a lot of shite there off the road. Yeah, they add it in. And we don't really have that culture. I think we just order what's on the menu. Yeah. We don't keep adding bits. In London, we just hand each other notes. Customizing things, maybe. Okay, so you were fed well. I'm fed very well. What were we talking about? I can't even remember. The other thing that's quite annoying though, I've been trying to get this back together since I moved back from LA, was I've been... Oh, because you lived in LA now. I lived in LA now.

17:03Denis:I'm back from LA. You could say that and not... I have a friend who lived in Berlin for, say about six weeks. Yeah. And never stops when I lived in Berlin. My time in Berlin. Yeah. So you just moved back from LA. After I spent some time in LA. Well, I'm glad you didn't get murdered. Yeah, I am too. Will we take a break? We will. Let's take a little break.

17:29I went to the movies. Very scary. Yeah? Very scary. Weapons, have you seen this?

17:37Denis:I've seen loads of adverts for it. Have you? It is wild. I'm not going to say much because it's not what I expected. so the ad is all about these kids one night ran out of their house and never came back yeah they did come back and they ate a woman oh my god

18:04very gruesome you know the horror movies are getting like they're almost they're going so mental at the end they're going into comedy it's just so unbelievable this would never happen like did you see substance no but it's something on my list it's excellent but the end scene is like this it's just like what on earth it's completely out of

18:29Denis:the way people talk about substance so I'm not sure if I want to see it oh it's excellent I saw that three times it's excellent oh it's so good but this yeah it is the final scene is you're horrified and then you're just laughing because it's and I like seeing them in the theater because everyone else is kind of giggling and you're like oh it's okay we're not scared very good I won't tell you why that happened but really good it's one of those American kind of sleepy towns I like those movies there's a lot of driving around in big trucks and people getting chased at the gas station those kind of scenes it's good yeah I think watching a horror movie in a cinema is better yeah the giggles especially when when the whole place gets a fright there was one girl she was she just couldn't control it was very funny listening because oh my god it is gruesome some of it is it's gruesome but it's fine if there's people around so I like that I really want to say more but I can't because it spoils it there is there's a the reason the thing is happening was annoying to me because it goes into a bit of paranoia like witchy That pisses me off as well.

19:42Denis:When I'm watching a horror movie, I want to be scared because it's meant it could happen, right? Yeah, I don't think this could happen. Or like stretch it a little bit. But don't go into spiritual paranormal stuff because I'm just like, oh, I wish this was just a person doing it. Yeah, no, there's a bit. Well, there is a person. She's a very funny wig. It's really good. It has really good images. And the kids, they run with their arms out like this. All the people who get whatever happens to them. So it's kind of created this little graphic that I think you will see like repeating. People are like making their TikToks running around pretending to be possessed kids.

20:17It's real good. I loved it.

20:19Denis:On the other side of things, I was watching the recent Boyzone documentary. Oh yeah. Yeah. Different. A little different. Yeah. Have you seen it? I think... Did I mention this? We mentioned it months ago. Way back that it was coming out. Oh yeah. I saw it. Oh did you? i saw it and i was very traumatized yeah it's tough they got a bad doing like it's tough we're probably at the age where we were just experiencing like the very superficial top of boyzone right yeah but like oh my god i didn't know all the stuff that was happening to them or even how badly they were getting dragged in tabloids and stuff or what louis walsh was doing to them yeah was horrendous but it just i just felt so sorry for them i think there's is there any of them that have come out of it going oh i'm glad i was in boys on are they okay i don't think they are like you know and they all seem like for the most part they seem like decent guys right seem fine like yeah but um god there's a lot of sadness in them yeah do you know really is and you get your you get your character and that's it yeah like ronan is the the best one yeah and then stephen was the lovable one yeah and then the other three were kind of yeah they were shoved in the back less yeah that's how like they were presented and i really don't think there was when you're watching it you're just going like i don't think there was actually a need to do that no i can understand like what's being manufactured and whatever but like it's like we didn't have to be like this horrible to them yeah because other bands at that time were more balanced yeah like take that and stuff yeah you know there was there was a bit more time kind of building each person as their own yeah thing but yeah poison was very these two at the front and then because like there was even a bit with um um mikey in it yeah and like you don't you know like because i can kind of remember it like there was kind of like a bit of piss taking with mikey and stuff right yeah you know that he was almost like the odd one out or something yeah boys on and he was he writing all the songs i think i don't know if he was writing the songs but he was he was like a serious he was the musician and like and singer and stuff i think at one point he did go like he went to they sent or he went off to write songs for an album and when he came back they had the album recorded yeah like stuff like that but with him you know he was saying that like you know you're going to a show and afterwards you come out and this was the way they were presented this isn't his fault but they were presented and it was like all the girls are screaming and they're looking for posters signed by all the rest of them and not him yeah or mostly Ronan yeah or Ronan and Stephen whatever yeah And it was just Oh my god It was a tough watch Tough watch And then everything That went to Louis Walsh Was like The lads were like Oh we've been scarred This is the worst thing ever And then it goes to Louis Walsh And he's just like Yeah I did it Don't care You know I've got a lunch To go to I couldn't care less Yeah He's Like He's Not I think people are A little bit more in Charge Of themselves now I think I think I don't know Or can They can speak out A little bit maybe now I think it depends.

23:43Denis:I read this very pseudoscience thing. It was probably a long comment on Instagram, to be quite honest about it. But it was talking about someone like Ariana Grande and stuff and all these, that when they become famous is actually kind of the age that they keep then as they grow up. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So if you become famous when you're 10, which is insane, you kind of almost keep that thing. and you're like you create obviously a personality Yeah but then that must be so mind bending when you're 30 years of age you know and you're like suspended as a Teen pop sensation Yeah which is so weird That could happen to us It could happen to us We'll be still here in 10 years time I think we're built to last We're built to last Talking about planes Yeah I've seen a lot of comedy You have?

24:36Denis:You saw a lot of comedy up in Edinburgh I saw a lot of comedy comedy have you seen any i haven't seen a lot of comedy but um i've been doing doing a lot of comedy yeah i've been hosting emceeing i do like hosting it's fun okay um i was hosting an angel in camden head shout out james o'd um but yeah i was hosting that gig that is fun i love when you just get used to a room what's the difference between angel bill murray and angel camden head Angel Camden Head is so the one that I was doing was like Angel Comedy Raw which is like people trying out stuff you know seasoned people trying out stuff and like newer people just setting foot on stage or whatever and you're hosting all of that night which can be you know you might have to pick things up after an actor to be honest that goes across the board because some people could come in and just try out awful shit and you're kind of picking it up and then Bill Murray is you know like everyone is going to have a good 10 on so like if you're hosting there it's probably a bit easier even though to be honest I've had kind of difficult enough ones there as well but no it was fun and the room bigger, smaller the room I'd say the room is upstairs in a pub but it's a really nice room like it's perfect like it's just it's just one of those rooms where you don't have to worry about the room you know what I mean you go on I love the state that I'm in now where I could go on stage tonight and I wouldn't really need any prep or anything I'd just go on and really enjoy myself and be in the room but when I was in there the last night, like, big boisterous crowd and it can be a real mix of like tourists and kind of like tourists and people in London kind of being on a night out and stuff like that so it can be kind of hard to gel them together at the start but you kind of have to break them down but I started off and I do this joke sometimes in London it's just like a tiny little icebreaker or whatever I say like oh I'm from you know Mallow like in Ireland anyone in for Mallow tonight and then I usually get silence and then I just go oh usually we get a few right everyone laughs haha I've established I'm Irish whatever I go I'm from Mallow anyone in for Mallow and this woman at the back just goes I'm from Mallow oh no and I was just like what put you off then and I was just like oh my god like how are you from Mallow yeah she's got an American accent oh and I was like how are you from Mallow I was like you you have a different accent to me you're lying and she's like oh my family are from Mallow oh and I was like okay like you know but then I started being I started being a bit of a dick I was being a bit of a dick I like being a bit of a dick yeah I actually think of people from the podcast when they do come and see me because I do have I do there is something really cool that's going to happen soon I know I'm dying to tell them I know Do we know when roughly?

27:35Give us a rough timeline

27:36Denis:The first gig is going to be the end of October Oh And it might be Halloween Spooky And I might be dressed as Satan Okay And myself and Mark will be swanning around inside there But this will be once a month like great backing brilliant place Yeah Paying all the comedians Money The dream There's no money What? The dream Okay But with that woman I started asking her questions Mark I was foot in mouth she like she knew everywhere she knew everything right then afterwards right look I'm going to admit this okay right Mallow was not when I was growing up the most multicultural place in the whole entire world right walked outside there was a man and his accent led me to believe that he is probably from South America somewhere okay and he says you're not going to believe this Mallow I'm from Mallow and I said to him right because I was kind of kind of hard of it right you know okay right i said no you're not what you're really from out yeah and he points on his arm and he's got a fucking irish tricolor on his arm oh and he goes my mother's from mallow she's you know something burns or whatever and i was like what and and i was like i was like where where in mallow are you from like pointed out the place uh like a bit more information i was like do you go back there often he goes i go back there all the time and then mark I never told you this woman comes up and she goes I'm Irish as well oh and I was like where are you from I'm from Ennis oh go away hello yeah show me she doesn't know you but she goes back there a lot and she she had an English accent and she was saying that she's getting the passport next week oh good but yeah she's from Ennis I said I tell you I know a man from Ennis now great I had a crowd at my show in the Museum of Comedy and they had been at a wedding that I had sang at in Ennis.

29:32Denis:No way. Isn't that funny? As organ boy? As no faggity. Oh yes, of course. Swinging around after the dinner singing songs. I'm available for bookings. Isn't that funny? When did you do that? Oh, like three or four years ago and they had all these people sometimes they're quietly watching and then they'll book a ticket. It could be five years later. Isn't that nice? that is nice they're keeping an eye and then something eventually will suit and they come it's lovely five years later but they do come why not yeah they do come okay we'll get the news about that show soon have you got your name sorted don't tell us have you have you got the name of the show yeah it's brilliant okay it's really good don't tell us yet it's really really good okay people are going to shit great can't wait shit okay okay that's it thanks for listening to your internet boyfriends goodbye Dennis Lynn goodbye Mark Teacox We have a new episode for you every Thursday.

30:28You can follow us on Instagram and TikTok and you can email us at yourinternetboyfriends at gmail.com and we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye.

30:48Hello to the listeners. It's 9.25 here on Tuesday night and I'm about to go on stage at 10 o 'clock. I'm just having a little breather. The blouse is on, the hair is done. I had a packet of cheese and onion crisps and I now taste like cheese and onions. That's not ideal. Very excited. We've sold 25 tickets. There's 90 chairs in the room. So that's not ideal either, but you'll look. People might come in now last minute. So I'm going to run up the stairs now and check the hair again and put on a bit of perfume and sing a lovely song. And that's the end of Paddy Daddy. Listeners, finished now. A lovely crowd.

31:37Very happy. A few celebs in the room. And they were lovely. They were laughing and singing and making loads of noise. And delighted. Packed up all the bits. Going to get a bag of chips. And I got to bed.