#41 Our Sims Confessions and Toothless Cyril - with JUNO BIRCH (Part I)

13 Nov 2025 · 1 h 3 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: Your Internet Boyfriends - Episode #41

Episode Overview In this episode, hosts Mark and Denis are joined by the iconic drag performer Juno Birch. The trio dives into a lighthearted and chaotic conversation that spans topics such as their experiences at DragCon, peculiar personal anecdotes, and the joys of playing The Sims. The episode promises laughter and unexpected confessions, as well as a closer look at Juno's journey and experiences in the world of drag.

Key Highlights

  • Introduction of Juno Birch
  • Juno Birch is introduced as the first guest on the podcast.
  • Known for her surreal drag performances and chaotic playthroughs of The Sims.

Conversations and Anecdotes

  • DragCon Experiences
  • Discussions about booth-bitching and sticker sales.
  • Mark and Denis share their anticipation and the chaotic energy surrounding DragCon events.
  • Humorous Personal Stories
  • Denis shares a comedic story about his mother mistakenly informing his sister of his "death".
  • A humorous recount of Mark's experience booking a flight for Christmas, showcasing their different approaches to travel.
  • Sims Addiction
  • The trio reminisces about their obsession with The Sims, including discussions around:
  • Creating chaotic scenarios in the game.
  • The emotional attachment to in-game characters and events.
  • Bizarre Fan Gifts
  • Juno shares stories of unusual gifts from fans, including a gifted computer from a bee farmer.
  • The humorous and sometimes unsettling nature of fan art.

Cat Conversations

  • Cyril the Cat
  • Juno introduces her cat, Cyril, sharing amusing tales about his health and personality.
  • Discusses the challenges of caring for a toothless cat and the antics that ensue.

Drag and Performance Insights

  • Cabaret and Comedy Dynamics
  • The group dives into differences between American and UK audiences regarding humor and performance expectations.
  • Juno shares her experiences performing for different crowd types, highlighting the importance of crowd interaction.

Themes and Concepts

  • Friendship and Community
  • The episode illustrates the strong bond between the hosts and the warmth of queer friendships.
  • Humor and Honesty
  • The candid nature of their discussions underscores the podcast's theme of embracing vulnerability and humor in everyday life.
  • Artistic Expression
  • Conversations about drag, performance, and artistic identity reflect the broader themes of self-expression within the queer community.

Key Takeaways

  • The importance of humor in navigating life's challenges, as evidenced by Denis's story about his mother.
  • Acknowledgement of the emotional and societal impacts of gaming, specifically The Sims, as a form of escapism.
  • The significance of community and friendship in shaping personal identity and supporting creative endeavors.

Conclusion This episode of Your Internet Boyfriends offers listeners an entertaining mix of laughter, personal stories, and insights into the world of drag and performance. With the addition of Juno Birch, the conversation takes on a vibrant and chaotic energy, making it a must-listen for fans of comedy and queer culture.

Follow-Up Listeners are encouraged to engage with the hosts through social media or email, sharing their own stories and experiences. The episode serves as a reminder of the fun and unpredictable nature of friendships, creativity, and community in the digital age.

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0:02Welcome to this week's episode of Your Internet Boyfriends. Hello Mark Teacocks Hello Dennis Lenn Hello Juno Birch Hello Dennis Lenn Hello Juno Birch Hello Mark Teacocks

0:19She's on the way She's nearly here Excited now celebrity I'm very excited Giddy I told you this morning I feel like I'm going on holidays Yeah You know Do you get a new earring? I moved it around my head Oh right okay Yeah Because when she arrives I'm going to sit over there Oh and you wanted to be showing. So you're going to be looking at the right. The viewers are going to get a glimpse of the right inside of my face. They haven't seen that. They've never seen it. No, they've never seen it. So my slice and all my features are going to be hidden. They're going to be gone. You will get the quiff though, the little you know the...

0:49Yeah, I've I don't know, the hairs. Panicking. I'm panicking. I'm excited. I'm excited. You need to get a slice on the other side and you'll be sorted. Two slices. Can I tell you what my mother did during the week? Please. Oh dear God. She told my sister I was dead. Oops Yeah By accident Okay She rang her up And She said to my sister Who I hadn't spoken to in a while She said Dennis In England Is dead Right Someone else Another Dennis Now The thing about this is Is that it wouldn't be so far fetched For my mother To describe my death Or for you to die To be honest Yeah for me to die one But for my mother to describe My death as Dennis in England you know to describe me as that yeah sister nearly collapsed sister said she was she was she actually went like down like yeah crouching down over he's dead and then my mother couldn't understand what she had done oh my god what how long did it go on uh well i mean it went on for probably 30 seconds too long yeah you know as my mother tried to figure out why my sister wasn't responding.

2:01So yeah. Were you not dead? I'm not dead. I'm here. I'm doing well. Yeah. I'm flying it actually. So thank the Lord. So I might pop home at Christmas just to make sure that they know that I'm not. Have you booked that flight? I have not booked that flight. I booked my flight. Of course you did. I booked the flight. Oh delighted. I bet you got a big bargain did you? I got a great deal. Tell me now what time in the morning did you book it for? I booked it for a lovely time. What time? I think it's like 11. And I go on Aer Lingus. from Heathrow because I'm going on the 18th very early this year because I have gigs in Dublin beauties on the 19th so I'm going nice luxurious Erlingus not 6 o 'clock in the morning Ryan Erlutley plenty of time I booked my annual leave I did it all this week I got the calendar out I had 4.5 days of annual leave because I've not had to deal with this before like having a job and having to write down on a thing because I just do what I want usually but I had to tell someone now this time do you know what else happens in this new job you get your birthday off oh that's lovely not a nice perk when's your birthday tomorrow this week right is it tomorrow tomorrow no sign of a present is it tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow this tomorrow tomorrow actually listening now it's tomorrow oh okay great so not a sign of anything I noticed maybe there's a surprise coming out is it June I got a big gift for you coming very soon she's coming in the door in a minute.

3:28Very soon. Yeah, so you get the nice birthday off. Lovely, yeah, great. Yeah, very excited. Fantastic. Just trying to think about what I need to get you now for your... What would I get you now as a Christmas gift? Would I get maybe both of us on a t-shirt? Yeah. That'd be nice. That'd be lovely. I need perfume. That's what I want. I'm telling everyone. I've gone through, I had about ten bottles. Do you want a bottle of jupe? That'd be lovely. Yeah? That would be lovely. That would make me... Oh, sorry, no. we need to talk about perfume yeah right so recently Lisa has been there's been there's been her DMs have been exploding okay right exploding from straight heterosexual men you know coming coming in with the the kind of gentle soft launch do you know great to see you heart okay You know, winky face.

4:28Maybe see you again. Testing. Yeah, you know, see how it is. Little digital toe, you know, in the inbox. Yeah. And, you know, I thought nothing of it. So that's fine, you know, keep a gentle eye on it, you know. Whatever, you know, in the middle of the night, get her phone. Put it up in her face, unlock it, check what's going on, you know. But other than that, you know, not overreacting or anything. Yeah. Last night, she came home. smelled of the strongest cologne a man a man oh dupe head to toe I'm telling you no like I mean strong I actually thought I actually thought when I kissed her I thought my god how much are you after drinking this reminds me of kissing a man yeah I was like this is strange stunk who she said it was because she was in an Uber who was pumping cologne through the air vents.

5:29And yeah, that was the reason. And I just have to be... What do you think? Would it be able to attach to you like that? It'd be a big hug. A big hug? I'd say a hug for... A minute. 30, 35 minutes. Yeah. I wonder... You can't really ask anymore. No, I couldn't. I was inside in the bed next to her, like, eyes stinging. Yeah. Smiling away. Maybe she was buying you a present. Maybe that's it. She was buying you a present for Christmas and she tested it out. But she tested it out at about half-elevent night. Would there be a lot of places open? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No? Don't know. Do you think, like, do you think...

6:16That would explain it to me. She was just... Or she was hugging a man. Or she was hugging a man. For too long For ages At work Yeah Because you're not very If the DM You're not very Visible In each other's No we're not So you can't blame them She's too important Yeah She's too important And too successful Yeah But that's You know what That's what I kind of like With the gay world A lot better Is like The gay men You know I mean a lot of them Know I'm in a relationship They don't care But at least they don't Oh they couldn't care less But at least they don't come in Going Hey how are you Oh I love your dog I've got a little golden retriever as well You know that shite Gentle Because that could It's not too much Yeah but you know what they're acting like To be forgiven The soft launch Or like you know Oh I love what you're doing I think it's great You know like I like that too Gay men just come in and go Can I suck you off You know like They do And they're going And I'm just going No you can't But respect it You know At least you're just Out there saying it Straight to the point These fellas We don't have time I'm telling you Enemies at the gates Mark all the time full time job like yeah we don't have time do you know what I've noticed my requests aren't kind of not get notifications as much as I used to so people who don't who I don't know they go into the requests and I sit down maybe once a week and I go through them wild a dungeon I'd say totally new people who've just come across me can you get your phone there wild why can you get your phone to see them just see because I meant to I meant to ask you about this before because sometimes you send me a couple of them right Oh, I can never find them properly, though.

7:52You can send me them in. But if we just have a look at Mark's recent messages, I'm just going to swipe through a couple of screenshots that you have sent me. So this is from N. Your battery is very low. Yeah. And you sent this to me at 10 o 'clock at night. Next time you come, you can stay at mine for free. And then you sent them back. A big red heart. Yeah. Lovely. And then he said, you don't even have to feed me a load if you don't want. and then the gay qualifier haha if you don't want and he says jokes aside for four days it won't be a problem it goes it goes back and forth oh my god they never they never stand the ground do they they never stick the landing leg treat me like a whore oh if you want yeah if you want but seriously doll I know some great cafes around the place there's a picture of the two of us this person replied my kind of sandwich that's nice same picture of us a person replied my cruising fantasy.

8:50Okay. And then you, instead of, you know, saying no, don't be saying that, you sent him three little piggy emojis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You said that you went to the theatre. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Do you know what? So we were talking about Paddington Bear. Yeah. I've never had so many people have an opinion about something that I've said before. A lot of, a lot of excitement about Paddington Bear. The person in the costume now is, I don't know if this was always the case, but at least now she is coming out and taking a big bow at the end. She's good, yeah. And she's doing loads of press and she's getting loads of attention, so that's good.

9:24And then I was like, should I go see it? So I had a look and it's 25, no, it's not 25 pounds. It's 250 pounds to go see Paddington Bear, so I'm not going to do that. 250 pounds? It's very popular. To get inside the bear? To go. Get in the suit? No, just to sit in a chair. That's scandalous. And watch him dance around. So we're not going to do that, But I have a friend coming over in a few weeks and he really loves theater, musical theater. And their tickets, like they start, they get you in and they say from£25. And it's never£25, it's usually£45.50 for the absolute worst ticket behind a pole.

10:06Like, can't see anything. And then you're like, well, I'm here now, there's another one for£67.50, a little bit closer. and then suddenly it's 155.90 and it goes up and up and up. So, but then I remembered I have a fan who dropped me an offer a while ago and usually I don't pay attention to these things but sometimes I call in the favour and he works in one of the theatre... Oh, a powerful man I'd say in the gay community. He works in one of the theatre booths. A poor man And he He always offered Kind of cheap tickets But The deal is He wants To have a little Little munch A what? A little taste A little snack In the theatre It has to be in the theatre In a West End theatre Wouldn't that be a great story?

11:07Before they open Like he'd have a key I won't say which one Can you imagine? Like on the stage of He must be On the stage, Mamma Mia He's making his own currency there Before anyone comes in On the stage of Mamma Mia It's not Mamma Mia No one's getting fired It's a different Isn't that exciting? A West End stage West End girl Do you know what I don't get? It's like If I was dealing in If I was dealing tickets Yeah Right? If I was dealing tickets Yeah I wouldn't be For me Yeah I wouldn't be saying yes here's here's the ticket you can get the ticket if I can lick you out oh yeah you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah you want the other tickets for lick outs like I don't like yeah you it seems like a very good deal for you yeah like oh how do I get excuse me it's a great deal for them yeah oh yeah I'm not saying it's not but like as in you win twice they that's what they always want it's the complete opposite of what you think they usually want to do things rather than oh have things done I've heard I've heard from the industry the gayonomics is fascinating oh yeah fascinating so well I think we got the tickets down to about 45 45.50 they're not free but that's a good deal can you get three tickets?

12:28well I have to be in town very early in the morning very early in the morning do you ever just walk around the West End and think this is mad like it's so exciting I do a tour where I pass around the back of where Oliver is on now and the queues of people for autographs is wild like it's such a world that if you're not part of it you kind of don't pay attention to it and then these kids are coming from all over the country and queuing up and they're stars like celebrities I don't like Oliver you don't like Oliver? no what would you go see? so the big ones now are six is still going Oliver Paddington Wicked Phantom Wicked is oh my god never ending Les Males I'd go see Cabaret oh yes yeah oh yes yes I've still not been oh do you want to go wait I'd love to go do you know anyone who works in theatre not that one I know you've just you've just like excluded two of them now I know two people who were in the show Cabaret and I didn't go.

13:40I know Rob Madge who was the bloody star, the MC. Yeah. And I didn't go. And my friend Anya was there for like two years. Never went. Never went. Because it was on for so long and I'm like, oh, I'll get to it. Let's go. I'd love to go. Oh, and I have another friend Julian was in it. I know loads of people but they're all finished now so I don't have the discount. How much does it take to Cabaret? Ah, stop. 200. Get out. Of course. No, it's not. It's been on for a million years. Yeah. But they changed the cast. they bring in new like stars and it's yeah never ends we could do that yeah I have a friend coming I need to do you have any birthday coming up?

14:16I do there we go little envelope I'll call I'll call my friend what else is going on? so we we did a bit of online shopping yeah there's a lovely little bit of this blouse this blouse that's a great colour what would we call that colour? I would call that a nearly green. Soft mint. Soft mint, yeah. Is it? Yeah, it's very good. And it's the same colour as the vein in your bicep, which is very exciting. Where's the vein? Oh, yes. They like that. I am a little bit... Oh, she's bulging. I'm a little bit, what do you call it? It's a vascular. Bursting out. Yeah. They love that. Oh, look, it moves. Yeah.

14:58Yeah, they will enjoy that. Same, yeah, same colour as my veins. I think it costs about four pounds, something like that. The top? Yeah. Oh. Oh, it's all. You know, I'm an environmentally friendly man. So Lisa went on a little bit of a rampage. She picked me up some tops. Very nice, right? I don't dress myself at all. And I'm thinking of getting a couple of cycling tops as well. Oh, would you like this one? Yeah, they're great. They're great. I'm still not sure about the zippage, though. Sorry. Yeah, I think that was too much of a plunge. There we go. But picked up a couple of tops. Yeah. And we gathered up all the little packages.

15:35and we got them up like just outside the door and we went in and then we're doing a little fashion show so elisa was inside in the other little living room and i was inside in her room and i put on the first top and i came out and she was like oh that's that's actually a little small small um so i was like okay that's fine um and then i tried on this one and she was like oh yeah love that whatever came up with another one a little bit small it's like fine we got we got one top come on another one great little top right yeah so i went back in there's another package so open that and i noticed oh this this is something that lisa got oh right so i'll be funny and it was like a little kind of skirt dress thing oh that's funny right so i was like you know i'll put this on this will be very funny um and i came out and i was oh i don't know about this t-shirt ha ha ha and she was like what the hell is that and i was like this is the dress that you bought so i didn't buy the dress and i was like yes you did yeah and she was like no i didn't and i was I was like, yes, you did.

16:31I was like, where did the dress come from? It was her neighbours. Oh.

16:37You squeezed into it. I was downstairs wearing the neighbour's dress. Oh, my God. The panic. Did you have to bring it into her then? We had to seal it back up. I ripped the thing apart. Like, I ripped the, you know, the package open. Yeah. We were driving Saladay for Honda. To think, right. Was it nice? It was nice. Yeah, it was a nice little velvet number. But to think, at any one point, like you've just purchased the dress and the man downstairs who doesn't even live there is wearing it. Parading it around. Wearing it around the place like. Yeah. Oh my God. And then we heard them coming in and of course Lisa can't help herself then right.

17:12You can hear stuff like in the hall and you can hear and then she's inside going they're coming in now. They're coming in now. It's like shut up. Shut up. Stop talking. They're coming in. They're going to notice the dress. They're going to notice the dress. Imagine if they saw you in the window. Oh my God. Inside wearing it like. Be rested. But then this morning just lovely went had like one of these magical Hackney mornings where you know when everything's just nice the nice the nice like elements of living in Hackney like went to a little coffee shop talked to the woman who works behind the counter Mark on my way here driving here there was a woman in the middle of the road with a huge stick who was hitting buses and walking down the middle of the road.

17:59Yeah, that's the other side of it. But this was the rare, calm, pleasant neighbourhood morning. Because you were saying like one of those hackney mornings like what are you talking about? It's usually that. It's madness. But this was just a lovely, so I met a friend her name is Am and she runs a coffee shop it's called Haru and she's from Taiwan and I was like, oh give me more. I love it. I love it and the coffees are great and the cups are lovely and she makes little cakes and it's just and then there was a woman sitting I went with my friend and there was a woman there sitting on her own no phone or book just sitting there having coffee and we said hello oh oh my god and we talked to her for like three minutes lovely that never happens I went to dinner with Lisa before one of the first times we had dinner actually one of the first dates as we're sitting down just about to make some small talk a woman on her left who was eating just turned to us and goes the peaches are very dull I was just like what the fuck you know those times that if you're like a year in or whatever it's like you can obviously start off the conversation you're just like this is like a universe test or something to go like how are we going to handle the peaches woman I was like oh yeah won't get those so and you're stuck beside her and she looking over are you going to kiss and you gave her a kiss you were not kissing can I just say skin looking very smooth very smooth got the Botox about five days ago yeah so it's settled in nice settling in nicely but give it another week and I'll be ruined three years old so what where did you get it this time I got it in the eyes I got it in the middle here I got it in the forehead and then she started oh I nearly I nearly spent more money but I had to call it off because that was£300.

20:00Wow. £300. How long does it last again? £333. Six months. Okay. Where else were you going to get a jab? Well now here above the moustache. Can I just say right I don't I like I like certain like definitions and lines. Yeah. Are you saying to get rid of like this little, but is that not really nice? I have two lines here, if you're not watching, like above the moustache, from the nose down to the corner of your mouth, whatever they're called. And she said you have fat pads. I said, excuse me. She said I have two fat pads. Right, yeah. And they're loose. The fat pads are gone loose? My fat pads are loose.

20:43Oh, no, they're on the loose and acting. So the fat pads are loose. Come here Will we take a break And then I think We're going to meet our friend Okay yeah We've got the big star Coming in Excited

20:59She's all bits You have a few little Did my tit just Knock the mic Little magazines there To browse if you want If you get bored of us Lovely Are you nervous With the beautiful Beautiful woman in the room Hi mum Little bit Dennis is blushing I'm looking at the shoes These are my lifeboats Do you want to show the crowd I did make a mistake wearing them on the way to London because I've been shuffling all the way. Can you see? They're lovely. You should see me going to airport security. They absolutely hate me. They think they're full of drugs. I know. I'm surprised you've not cut them open yet.

21:29Do you do that thing where you're like, will I take these off? I'll get you, will I go, I'll go, these? And then I just bedonch them in the tray. And they don't fly off? Oh yeah, all the time. They do. They're not great for running, are they? But I fall over in all kinds of shoes. More so in flip-flops than heels surprisingly. I saw a guy actually deck himself down in Eilersfield the other day running for a taxi. Yeah. We both did. Flip, flip, flip, flip flops. Well we just saw a little girl she was wearing those platform things and I just laughed at her out the window didn't I? Because she ankled and went into the wall I was like ha!

22:08But that's what I do so I can't talk. I just don't wear shoes anymore. No you don't. Oh I forgot this is what gets the views. But I think you've got another That's what gets the views That's what they want She's a foot girl Oh you've no idea People like Zoom in And they send me screenshots Really? Of my socks Pigs Everything You should add like a tip thing Can you add a tip thing? We should have a tip Shall I flap my tits out as well? Yeah yeah yeah By accident And have an extra No one put Put the mic Have an extra Juno Burt You're very famous Am I? You're very famous And we're very grateful That you're here to see us And keep having me Into our little house lovely little living room.

22:47Tiara's there in the corner watching over us as well. My fellow tranny sister. She's there. Oh, I mean, sorry, transgender sister. It's my favourite word. I met her, do you know I met her for the first time? I went to the Attitude Awards and she is just, she's the lightest, she just makes everyone feel like they are a superstar. Yeah. And because I've seen her videos, like I've been around her, but I've never like talked to her properly. And she makes you feel so special. She's amazing. The first time I met her, we were at drag con. Yeah. And you have to get there really early. And I got there at 9am and I was half asleep in full drag and I sat on the balcony for a ciggy and I was like, oh, you know, before all the queens get in the green room and I just heard, ah!

23:28Scream. And I just saw her storming down the other side of the balcony. I was like, oh God, who's this? And then when I saw it, I was like, yeah! But it's genuine. I know. It's not for cameras. I've never seen her off. She's full energy, full screaming. She's a mental case. and that's why I get on with that. And she won the award and then the Scissor Sisters were playing and she was like up on the stage dancing with the Scissor Sisters. She's so good. She's so fun. You're very famous. You're very nice. You're very busy and we're very grateful that you're here to see us. Thank you for having me.

23:58Boys. How has your day been? Was it? It was fine. I think I had about three hours sleep last night but do you know what? Red Bull's carrying me through and we drove well I didn't drive. No one would get in the car if I drove. There's an assistant. Phil drove. Assistant in the corner. Slash fiancé Yeah Oh fiancé Yes Oh my goodness Lovely Oh I should have known That's lovely But today's been lovely Come on what time Wait wait wait Oh This is something That I always get killed for Because I never ask the question How did it happen Oh god Well Look he's going Wait why are you going Oh god Come on how did it happen Well I was brushing my teeth And I was brushing my teeth And I was in the bedroom and he started acting all weird and I said, is there a parcel in the concierge?

24:47And he said, he said, no, well, I picked one up, but he started acting all strange and I was stood there brushing my teeth in the bedroom and he just got down on one knee and did this whole speech and I literally just spat toothpaste all over his face and then I said, yes. Lovely. But you said you were going to propose to meet the Grand Canyon. Oh. But, Oh, this was, this was abroad. this was international proposal no this was in our bedroom in our house oh okay so oh you got to he can't lie to me I will sniff it out and you got spat in the face as well what a day that was kind of a yes yeah that's a lot but it's a good job that we you didn't propose to me at the Grand Canyon because we were nearly tearing each other's heads off because we were spent 45 minutes looking for a parking space and we were so stressed at the Grand Canyon.

25:42I wanted to throw myself off it. So it's a good job he didn't do it there. I would have went, no! We were looking for a car space in some park in London and we went around too many times to now abandon it. You know, because we'd invested too much time. We'd gone around seven times and then you see people walking back to their cars and you start like following them. You know, you're like edging behind them. Do you know what the top tip is? Stay put where you are in the car. I think you need a lot of confidence to do that though. You just stay where you are and someone will get out of the parking space.

26:15You just have to scratch the window. Yeah, but then you get someone behind you just kind of edging you a little bit. What if they come back with shopping and then they're going out again? They're just teasing you. Tear a motor car. I will tear that bitch's hair out. She fills up the boot with all the bags. But we drove round for so long for like 45 minutes and we were like, we just, right, let's just stay put. And we found one. So there's a car park for the Grand Canyon. Yes, like 10 car parks. Not a big, vast open space. Yeah, it's huge. Is there a visitor's entrance? Well, you have to park somewhere.

26:54It's not like you can just turn up and just go wherever. It's very organised. Okay. Unless you know it really well, you could probably just go up a cliff somewhere. Yeah. Do you know in the west of Ireland, where we're from, there's the Cliffs of Moher. And the Cliffs of Moher, can you picture that? Do you know the very... The Cliffs of Moher. I'm picturing like Mordor from Lord of the Rings. It's like the most stereotypical image of Ireland with those huge big cliffs in the Atlantic Ocean. And it's wild and it's like free, just barren land. But to see the cliffs, you have to pay. Because they've closed off every little gap that you might put your car.

27:35closed them all off. So you have to go into this car park. I think it's 20 euros to pay it to look good. It's high-vis jackets everywhere. It's so organised. He's done that to Stonehenge now, haven't he? The same. Disgusting. The same. What have we become? What time? I'm getting old. This is such an old first conversation. Oh, we're nanas. You can't even tell. We're nanas. Okay, come on, tell us. What time did you get up this morning? I got up at 9.30 and I was out the door at 10.30. That's exciting. And then I slept for two hours in the journey. Yeah. And then I did my makeup in the car. I saw you on Instagram.

28:10I did my makeup in the car. This is good, she's ready. Absolute 80s. I love absolute 80s. And we were going over loads of bumps. And I was trying to do my eyebrows. And I had zigzag eyebrows. So I had to touch up when I got to the Airbnb. You had to go back around again and get the same level of bumps. Why did you not get very much sleep last night? because when i know i'm doing something the next day my body will not go to sleep but also i think it's because i'm jet lagged because when i come back from america it is the worst jet lag going there's fine coming back's awful because you wake up late go bed late so that's another reason i had the feeling that someone was like coming over for a christmas dinner or something it's exciting i was zipping around the place this morning panicking a little Just because we're like Do we have biscuits?

29:01Do we have water? Did you have the perception That I was going to be a real diva? Well, you could be You just want to treat people nice I'm such a bastard People think I'm going to be so up my own arse But I am actually a proper bastard You want to treat people nice Because I know when I've gone into things Sometimes you're like, do you care? Do you care if I'm here? You do need a little bit of Pampering I like a bit of pampering I like a bit of fuss you do you like a bit of fuss and then ignore the person that's giving you fuss yeah yeah yeah just a bit of something that's your perfect night and you're all action you're here for a few days yes you're here for a few days doing a show tonight in the queer comedy club which will be over by the time this comes out so how did that go I loved it it was so good I was so funny and the crowd were great people were screaming the heads off at me they chanted Juno they loved it How often are you down here?

29:59London town Probably like once a month Once every two months maybe You told me you lived here I lived here for two years When I was in uni I did film in uni Because I wanted to be Tim Burton Yeah And then I left uni Because I all of a sudden realised I didn't want to be behind the camera I wanted to be in front of it I needed the attention Yeah So I left London Oh it's too expensive She wanted to be a star Do you remember the first day you came to London? Like arrived to live? Well to live well the first time I actually came to London was when I was about 13 because I used to go to the Tavistock Clinic which unfortunately shut down now but that was the youth trans clinic and every time I'd come here I'd go to Camden Market afterwards and I loved it.

30:46And get big shoes and get big platform shoes. But do you remember the day you arrived like with the bags to start your new life in the big city. Yeah. My mum was like, yeah, getting yours. Yeah. It was, I'd been in London so many times so it wasn't like, I'm in New York. Yeah. Like it wasn't like crazy fabulous and everything. When did you, what was your first day here? Had you been here a million times before? No, I hadn't been here a million times before. I'd just been over, over on like, you see my dad, it's just, my dad can't fly. Like, I mean, most dads can't fly but my dad can't like he's a terrible fear of flying yeah right so we can't we couldn't come over even though like we have like loads of relations and stuff here and then the one time that we did come over birds flew into the engine oh as we were lifting off and then it crashed into the runway oh yeah and he said this is why and then they said don't worry we're gonna get the plane back and they pulled the plane around to where like next to the waiting room where we were waiting and then they started picking birds out of the engine as my dad was trying to get himself back onto the plane And then we'd go back onto the plane.

31:55And then we'd come over to England. And we were over there for about a week. And he didn't enjoy a single day of it. Yeah. So I'd been over maybe once or twice. But that was the last time I was over. Yeah. And then I moved over. And I came into, I moved over to East London. And we went to an Airbnb. We had no idea of any of the location or anything. It was completely naive. And I pushed a large suitcase up a very long road that I would not walk up. Yeah. At any point, no. Yeah. And I was going along in like my dungarees practically. You're not going up, wow, I'm in London, this is amazing. You'd get killstone dead if you walked there today.

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32:29But that was the first time I was there. You survived it. I landed, because I hadn't been here at all. How do you know each other? Oh, we're very famous. Besides being famous celebs, when did you? Oh, we have a history. Can't tell on the cameras. No, we don't really know each other very well. I was like, where have we met? I was so drunk. I don't remember. We don't. I think we've crossed paths in drag con and things. because my friend Just May, Justine May, I like to call her. Oh, she's a bastard. She's a love... Can I just clear up, what's a bastard? You know what a bastard is? Oh, a bastard is a drag queen that is just a...

33:06A bastard? Right, let me... I can't describe it, but think, why is she black? Bag of chips. Yeah. Just May. Ginny. Ginny Lemon. But do you want to hang out with a bastard? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we love a bastard. The bastard's the best kind of drag queen. What would a bastard be likely to do on a night out? Do you know what I mean? Give me a gauge. On a night out, what's a bastard doing? Oh, fuck off. Like, that's a bastard. Okay, all right. Just rough drag queen. Why she is the best. She's full on bastard. Did you ever get one of those why she bastard badges from Dragcom? With the face. With the face.

33:42The face. The famous why she face. She's very good. They're kind of like, I don't know how you explain. They're just, they don't care. they're just fun and just kind of thrown around insults like really mean to each other but in a very lovely way and loud screaming there's some people that scream all the time so yeah I've done that with her I'm usually just May's booth bitch so she's there taking photographs and I'm selling her fucking stickers and badges and her prints have you seen today a big announcement DragCon Brazil has been announced so we've got no DragCon LA we've got no DragCon London DragCon Brazil but we've got DragCon Brazil very exciting that'd be chaos Are you going?

34:19No, I wish. I've never been Brazil, but I really want to go. Yeah. So I think it's just through that. And then I've seen you. I came to your show in Soho Theatre, which was beautiful. I was up in the balcony. Which week did you come? Oh, who knows? Why? Because the first week of my shows in Soho Theatre were awful. Oh. Because every night I had a LEMSIP because I'd lost my voice. Oh, no. And I had a chest infection. I was on steroids and antibiotics. and I was just, the press night was the first night of the show and I was just, I was shivering but I was boiling and it was just horrendous. So hopefully you came to the second week.

34:58I think it was great. I was dying to get off that stage. How many nights? It was two weeks. Oof. And when do you decide to call it off? How do you decide I'm too sick? Well, the first show was a Monday and that got cancelled because I phoned my manager and I said, I don't know what to do. I might have to just make some jokes about not having a voice. And he was like, how are you going to do that with no voice? Because I was on the phone. There was nothing coming out of me. I'd have never lost my voice before. So we had to cancel the first show. And then the second show was the press night show.

35:36So the press night was my first show. And I was just like on stage like. And they were nice. Yeah They said nice things Oh yeah They were good audiences Yeah Oh I think you were fine By the time I got there You seemed great Oh good I loved it I was up in the balcony Did you Because we had the balcony there I used to throw my doll The baby was thrown around Yeah That poor child What's her name? Judith Louise She was Fucked around I've had the same doll That I use in my shows For about five years She looks us And we did a tour this year With her again And I think it was in San Francisco the head just came clean off the doll and then we were like because it was so funny because I was genuinely shocked that the head fell off and I was trying to put it back on during the song so every show after that we sort of gently zip tied it back on so I could pull it off and accidentally do it you know She's been through but I love in Soho Theatre do you know that big room in Soho Theatre not the basement it's like the big room because when you're up on the balcony you're watching the show but then you see all the people that's very nice and you can see how they're reacting and giggling along and they're squeezed in because it's like benches so they're really like squashed Can you love being up in a balcony?

36:52Of course I'm waving out The show's over there I think the tickets are probably cheaper up there but I'm like I'm in the boxes Can't see anything Well I'd always throw the baby up onto the balcony because it was just funny and me trying to get it on the balcony and then when they dangle it off the balcony I say don't do that you look like Michael Jackson Yeah Would you ever have trouble getting the baby back? Oh, yeah. I hit so many people with this plastic doll. It would go up, hit the balcony and then smack the person underneath. Would anyone try and steal it? I have had that before, haven't I?

37:24That's a valuable baby. Because sometimes at the end of a show, I'll leave my props on the stage and some people will get a bit cheeky and come on the stage and try and take stuff. I've had glasses robbed quite a few times, haven't I? Have you done the basement of Soho Theatre? No. That's a funny little room, isn't it? I like, is that more comedy club setting? It's kind of cabaret. I saw Dina Martina there last week. Love Dina Martina. Oh my goodness. I think she's still on this week. I love her mouth. Oh, I was trying to explain. Could you try and describe what the hell she does? Is Dina a bastard?

37:58No. I would say she's a bastard, but I would say she's an artistic bastard. I'm saying bastard wrong. Bastard. It's like my bastard. Yeah, that was rude. Mine was insulting, wasn't it? He's snappier on the first bit. A bastard. Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, no? A bastard. A bastard. A bastard. Don't come back, you bastard. That's the way I'm saying it. Oh, you bastard. I don't know her off the stage. I don't know. Does anyone know her off the stage? I don't. I've not seen her out and about, but on stage, she's the most bizarre character. And it's a proper, it's a character. There's nothing like it.

38:36and she's singing the most kind of kind of miserable it's so there's such a I think I saw a video with one of her songs recently there's such a funny sadness it's so unusual I love her perception of herself yeah yeah she's gonna watch this and be like what are you talking about she has the most unusual way of performing it's so charming you could just watch her how would you describe yourself me oh I I think I She's a Dalston gay Turn it up She's a Dalston gay I think I turn it up Because I'm actually very Mellow I'm very quiet And kind of somber In normal life So I think I get it all out When I get on the stage And I've leaned into this Pretending that I'm more successful Than I am Delusion is the key to confidence Oh And once I realise that I'm like This is easy You just kind of Because I do like I do like piano cabaret comedy but it's like storytelling and hosting it's a bit of a mix of it's cabaret lots of flirting on stage lots of flirting on stage lots of kind of hyping myself up and once I realise that you can do that and you're allowed to do that people love it they don't want you to be humble and normal and you come across very artistic do you think?

39:54yeah do you think you do? do you know I love your friend Joe Black would be a very like big inspiration to me yeah Joe Joe always was like the piano yeah like Joe's amazing and behaved like a star from day one yeah even before they were like big I think that's the trick whereas in comedy I don't know is there oh they don't really like they don't really like you they don't they don't really like you they often they don't like they don't like you being that happy or like confident in yourself Dennis is a stand up comedian they don't like you being too confident in yourself I find it do you perform in the US No, I've never performed in the US.

40:36I find it very different in the US because I feel like in the UK, a lot of the time people want you to be self-deprecating. It's kind of a self-deprecating humour. But in the US, it's not as self-deprecating. 100%. It's like, don't say that about yourself. You call yourself a fat cunt. They're like, oh, my God. But in the UK, they're like, ha, ha, fatty. Do you know what I mean? Tell us how fat you are. And then there was another weird venue. I think it was during COVID time. I did it with Silking Up Ed Ganache. Oh, yeah. And it was a boxing stadium. Oh, the National Arena. And it was so strange because it was kind of, it was a sold out show, but because they moved it to this giant boxing arena, it was just echoes in this stadium.

41:20It was so strange. Like being in like an airport hangar or something. Yeah. In Dublin. Yeah? Yeah, it was Dublin. Oh my God. Yeah. And I remember because I think I, I kind of forgot what I was I forgot what material I was doing Yeah And I just randomly started going Don't make unnecessary journeys Oh they love that And it did the entire monologue And every single person in the audience was like Shouting it along Yeah In this boxing stadium If someone comes to Ireland from outside of Ireland And has any reference or knows anything They're They love it All you have to say is And don't you think Irish audiences are the best audiences Yes This is my favourite place Oh I love it Lose their minds Well the thing is The thing I like about performing in Dublin Is people aren't afraid to shout out I know a lot of comedians don't like that But I just love it because As long as you're not telling me I'm horrible or anything Like I don't mind Like I love it Because it gives me something to go off of You did the George Can you remember that?

42:22Because you've done like a thousand gigs Well the last place I did in Dublin Was a comedy club Oh the Sugar Club Sugar Club that's what I'm talking about but before that when it was more of like a drag show it was the George with Heidi in Closet and then before that was the Boxing Arena with Sooking Up Meganash but I don't remember the Heidi in Closet one because I was very drunk the Sugar Club is beautiful I loved it Dublin wouldn't have such a history of cabaret kind of venues so that I did one show there one time it cost a fortune but it is oh my god I did a pride do you know what I did I did a pride I thought I was so clever I did pride maybe 20 23 or something and I did the Friday night of pride and I thought that'll be great get them all out and it'll be sold out and they'll all think I'm great and I booked the place and sold it was a real struggle because fucking years and years were on at the same time somewhere else and Dublin is not that big so if there's one gay thing happening that's it you can't really there isn't enough gay people to fill my little show and bloody years and years so it was tough but it's a very nice it's very bougie and the big boots have you been in there?

43:44Yeah it's a very old style Oh it's lovely and it's all tiered and they do a lot of movie nights they do like the Rocky Horror screenings and it's a lovely I didn't realise there wasn't a dressing room because if I if I go to a venue and there's not a dressing room I'll get ready in the hotel. Because I was doing full blue alien drag, I had to get ready at this bar behind a curtain. And I swear to God, this girl saw me, like my tits just flop out my leotard. I was like, oh my God, I've got to go on stage now. She's just seen that. I'm surprised. It was fine. It was just, I had to make Philly stand in front of the curtain the whole time.

44:18I was like, where's the dressing room? I'm surprised. It's such a big place. I thought they would have more of a... Yeah, Sugar Club. there's no dressing room oh my god how dare they can i jump into something i've been dying go on dying to ask big sims player yes yeah do you stream i don't stream you mean like live yeah oh god no you record and then i'd probably say something stupid i could pre-record and do it on YouTube. Oh, okay. Because when I record playing it and I watch it back, the full unedited version, I would get sectioned because there'll be a full like 20 minutes of me having a conversation with myself and I don't remember it.

45:06How long would you record? In my house? No, how long? Oh, maximum I did it for four hours once but that was because it was like a sponsored sims okay i had to nail all the points yeah yeah yeah um but i try and limit myself to heart an hour and a half two hours okay but i've stopped doing youtube at the moment because i found no one's it's weird i get comments all the time saying we've missed your youtube videos where have you been and i've been uploading every week it's like my it's like all of a sudden my videos got hidden for a while that's the same with everything though isn't it so like you know you put more and more effort into it and it's like no we've changed the algorithm no one sees anything we put up it's really really annoying Dennis used to be a very famous streamer I did what did you play I played do you know Age of Empires 2 no but Phil will do you know Age of Empires 2 Phil is a no-one game we see a man's man is that blowing shit up is that like cod it's armies just like one army versus another army fighting each other but I know The Sims is what I grew up on like I absolutely loved The Sims I used to ring people when I get a promotion Did you?

46:14Yeah, you know, like you'd get the classic one. Wait, you meant you rang people in real life? In real life, yeah, you know. I just got a promotion on The Sims. I would get so much. I think it actually set me a bit wrong. Like, I'd get so much out of The Sims. I wouldn't do anything in my real life. Why do you think I'm like this? Over lockdown, I got so sucked into it that I was having fights with the screen. and I used to watch the videos of me during lockdown I'm like screaming at the screen and it's genuine like annoyed that this random girl walked into my birthday party and she wasn't invited it's you get addicted to it it's brilliant though I love it it's so good and you burn down a house and you're like can't believe what you've done you used to make your neighbours and stuff didn't you so I studied architecture because of Sim City and Theme Hospital and Theme Park and all those little building I wouldn't really play the people so much I wanted to build the little things And I used to make the neighbours houses And I used to copy Like if the neighbours got an extension on their house I would add it onto their house And I had like a whole I had my town Like fucking insane And I had little replicas of all my neighbours Little places on there And then I realised real life Is much more difficult designing houses Well it's similar to me Because when I was little And I played The Sims 2 for the first time I was like, I want to be an architect.

47:41I want to design. And then when I realized it was maths, I was like, no, thank you. What was the difference between original and Sims 2? What was the big up? I can't remember what the big upgrade was. It was 3D. Hully rotational. Yeah, instead of the four. The Sims, it was like you pressed a button and it would flip around all corners. Oh, the whole thing was 3D in the second one? You could move around more. Yeah, the second one was all three. Oh and the first one was just Like a switch around Yeah How long would you stream When you were Oh Because you were I wasn't actually going to admit this But you were like Oh you streamed for four hours once And I was like Oh no I used to I could stream for eight hours We used to We used to have tournaments Like if we had a tournament on You could stream for eight hours It's the most unhealthy thing in the world But it is fun It is really fun Did you have a big chair?

48:32A big ergonomic chair? A big gaming chair Yeah I feel like that's something I don't want to admit Did you? No I didn't I didn't have a big gaming chair I had a small gaming chair Bill always tells me get a gaming chair because they're comfortable but they are the ugliest piece of furniture that's ever existed And you have to have LED lights all around the floor Yeah that's when you're completely losing your mind Do you know in Ikea I just saw they have a mock up of that person's room That person? Who's that person? Yeah who's that person? Whoever plays video games for a long time with like the ergonomic chair all the walls are black three big screens LED lights all over the floors they've designed that room that bedroom for people I mean I liked it I just think the hardest part of it was that you kind of get into these strange parasocial relationships with people that you don't really know at all and you can get sucked into it pretty bad Has Sims gone can you play with other people now on Sims?

49:32No not yet but I think that's going to be a thing. It feels obvious I think that's going to be a thing in the future, I don't know. That I could visit you as myself in my... I feel like the thing is people who play The Sims, the very... No, don't talk to me. Yeah, yeah, it is. You want to control your own little world. Don't come into my world. Because you could design a house and I could come over and see how it is. And go into your house and walk around. But you'd wreck a bit of it. I'd be changing it. And then I'd delete all the windows and burn you. You would, yeah. You'd set a little fire or something.

50:02I'd say that colour could be a little bit... I'm vicious. I'm vicious on The Sims though Like I will make cages For people Do you have a nice I was going to ask Do you Do you murder people Oh yeah There's like 50 million videos Of me online Killing people playing The Sims I think people have been A bit worried about me You lock them into walls And like make their Like mood come down and stuff Oh yeah Yeah and torture them and stuff Yeah no that's great I just wanted to see where we stood Have you ever seen that one where I think it's a mod isn't it Where someone puts a baby On a barbecue

50:34Delicious No I haven't seen that one Delicious Did you make money? I did yeah Yeah But then when you work it out per hour No money But if you were a very famous woman Would you make more money? Probably Are people giving you gifts and things? Yeah How does it work? The computer I have is a gift A bee farmer in France sent it to me I swear That is so random Yeah Is he Twitch? Twitch yeah Switch at the time yeah And he got his He was a bee farmer from Newcastle and then he sent his wife to the post office and they mailed me a computer. Okay. Yeah. And I didn't have it. A guy in Scotland sent me a graphics card and then a few other people tried to get my dress.

51:18No. There you go. Have you got, you surely have got some gifts and stuff. I'm going to become a foot girl as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could just stream and just lift every half hour. Just stick up the toes. With long acrylic toenails on. Just stick. But they send you gifts in the games right like they said oh yeah they send you money in in the games you know what i did for a while did you did you ever get what did you do for a while i have a few platforms that we won't talk about here but did you ever get uh uh tempted into bego did you get invited to bego there was about two or three years ago everyone who was online was tempted to go on this new live streaming app it's kind of like tiktoky thing but you just have to live stream your life.

52:06Don't have to do anything interesting. There was a few people on it and then it kind of just disappeared. But people would drop you little little tokens and little like little gifts and little diamonds and they would turn into money. And the whole thing was a scam. Like it's I never got the money. I got a bit of money. You would turn into money. Yeah, like you could drop like a little whatever, a little little apple or something like a diamond and then that would be like three cents. they still kind of do that there's another app out there doesn't tiktok do that? there's a bit of that you can throw around gifs no they used to like what they'd do is they would you'd see like someone has donated so many gifs that's what you do like gifs subs so they'd give subscriptions to other people but then they'd get in a little competition a little power of it and they'd be like you know I gave you 50 subs or something therefore you have to do what I say have you ever had a gifs sub?

53:01never Someone did a painting of me once Getting stabbed to death Fuck off And there was blood all over this thing Do you remember it? And it had like one of the Sims characters, Joy Desperate Just murdering me And it was like It was in watercolour And there was blood everywhere She gave it to me in the meet and greet It was like, thank you Oh, in person? Yeah Or a fan? Yeah, it was like this little Not a dead trip Little girl, she was like Oh, I've made this for you I was like, thank you Oh, fuck me Was it good? It was alright, you know like we're the talented how long do you keep the fan art I've still got all of it no you don't I do do you you should see my drag because I'm a hoarder I don't throw anything away yeah and my every single gift I've ever gotten is shoved underneath my makeup vanity so when you walk into my drag room it's just like what the fuck is that under there and it'll be like it's like a severed head handbag or like I don't know duck shoes or something People bring me weird things.

54:02So it's just a pile of shit underneath. And are you dragging things around if you're in America? We try and fit things in, don't we? Oh, my God. Someone made me a sculpture once, and I didn't want to get a new suitcase for it. So I think I binned a pair of heels or something for me. Oh, something else. Yeah. There was one time I binned a pair of massive white platform boots in Chicago airport, and I watched the woman, you know, the bin woman, she walked past like this, she saw them like that, she looked around, she put them on the trolley. I was like, oh, she's got home to wear them. Do you remember?

54:39When did you land back in the UK? From New Orleans. How many days ago? Monday, Tuesday. Okay. Oh, so you're back. You're back. You're settled. Yeah, it takes me a while to get over the jet lag then. You're still a bit in the jet lag in this window, aren't you? It's hard to get out the system. I know. And then if you're, because you're such a good Sims player, do you have a nice house? It's fairly nice. In the Sims in real life? In real life. In real life. It's not as glamorous as you think it would be. It's definitely not my forever home. Yeah. I just, I want a bungalow. Oh, yes. In the desert.

55:19Oh. That's my dream house. Yeah. With a patio. Yeah. So Cyril can go out and just... I've seen Cyril. You like Cyril. Oh, he's gorgeous. I've seen Cyril. Is that Ginger Cyril? Yeah. Yeah, I've seen Cyril. He's been through a lot by Cyril. Has he? He's had all of his teeth removed. He's only got two fangs left at the bottom. The cask. So when he closes his mouth, his lips get stuck behind his front teeth. I'm convinced he's got asthma. Yeah. And he's Ginger. and he's just, oh God, the other day, well, no, it was before we went to Australia, I think, he was in the window sunbathing. You know Oriental Shorthairs, they have these giant ears.

56:01And he kept sunbathing in the window and they were going purple. So I bought this cat sun cream for his ears and I rubbed it on his ears before we went to bed. And I woke up in the morning and all of the skin off his ears was clawed off. so I think he'd felt it on his ears this heavy sun cream and scratched all of his ears it's beautiful so now toothless scabby ears like just and people keep saying I look like my cat so where does he go when you're travelling the world he stays where we live and my sister comes and lives at my house okay nice because in the past we thought about taking him to a cat hotel yeah because you can get cat hotels where you But I think he'd be too scared.

56:48Okay, describe the bungalow. So it's out in the desert. In America? Here? Well, in Arizona or... A nice one. Vegas or California. Very hot though. I love it though. I thrive in the desert. But we planned to go. Sorry, I'm waffling now. Why are you laughing? I love it. I thrive in the heat. I thrive in the heat. But you did say that you were very hot and that's how you started stand-up though. Yeah. Makes her funnier maybe. Oh, you mean, oh no, I was already doing stand-up. I just meant I wasn't in the blue. No, no, but you know what I mean? Like as in like you don't like it. Yeah, but that was moist.

57:28Muggy, you're okay. Oh, you wanted dry heat. Yeah. A desert heat. Okay, I'd like to hear it. So is there a little site? Is there a little fence around the site? There's a white picket fence. Is it a vast big site with a tiny house? I like them. A little house. Yeah. little bungalow think Edwards is a Hans neighbourhood it's a salmon pink it's there's cacti everywhere there's loads of plastic pink flamingos on the lawn and I come out like Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors just somewhere that's green but it's but outside of that plastic lawn it's just dry desert and then you get the camera zooms out and there's nothing from miles and miles I'd love that yeah no neighbours I don't mind a neighbour but down the road yeah down the road they've got to put up with my screaming and shouting how many bedrooms oh two three at least three okay will Cyril have a bedroom or would he no Cyril sleeps in my neck every night oh does he yeah every night because he's got this long angular face what he does is he gets in in the night he taps for me to open the covers and then he climbs in and then he wedges it wedges his little face in there.

58:43This morning he was trying to get his claw to open my mouth like this wasn't he? To go in. Oh my god. I know a big cat as well. You know my big cat. Oh yeah. I have a big cat who wakes me up as well. A big cat? A huge cat. What breed is it? It's half Bengal, half something else. Big old cat. Have you seen the Maine Coons? Yeah, yeah. I'd love one of those. I would love one of those. But I think I think

59:10Cleaning up after with them. Like cleaning up after a main coon. Oh, I bet they do big dumps. That's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of what I meant. That would clean that up. Like this cat that I know. Well, I don't clean mine. Phil just does it. Okay. Because I've got my nails done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where'd you keep the box? Where'd you keep the litter box? Well, I wish I had a picture of it really because it looks like my dream house. It's cat litter house. Yeah. It's like, it's sort of off the kitchen near the balcony. The desert around. No, it does. It has an AstroTurf lawn. Lovely.

59:44And it has a plastic picket fence. No, it doesn't. No, it does. And the roof has one of them lid. You know, when you can get them where the cat goes in the cat flap and it comes out the roof. Oh, yeah. So that all the cat litter trickles back into the thing. I'll send you the link. It's really good. But we put the piece of AstroTurf on top of it. So it looks like a little Hobbit house thing. You know what I want you to do? I want you to put another small house inside that house with a desert and continue it all the way down. But the first time we got that cat litter house, the cats go in through the flap and they come out through the top.

1:00:24But Cyril didn't realise you can't come back out through the flap. So the first time we got it, Cyril went in through the flap, did this massive steaming dump and then was clawing at the window. Like, let me out. go through the room and he's like kill me stuck with the dumb poor Cyril he's a character what age is Cyril now? five five okay I forgot his birthday this year five years old no years no years what? that's a rough five years that's hard yeah he's been through a lot yes yeah is there another cat? no I did have two other cats but I didn't take them away from my dad They live with my dad They're both dead now There was Lucifer And there was Frag We think Lucifer Got poisoned by one of the neighbours And then Frag She just dropped dead randomly But they were really really old cats Okay Nothing like Cyril though Cyril Is like a total different cat That's like a dog And does Cyril like the thing?

1:01:39Are you alright my darling? Are you laughing at my son? Just imagine the cats when you go to a cat's home and they're like Let's get the fucking boat mangled Please

1:01:52Okay that's the end of that now Thanks for listening to your internet boyfriends You can watch this full episode back in HD on YouTube and we'd love to hear from you if you want to drop us a message with your news or your saucy stories you can get us on Instagram or TikTok or you can email us at yourinternetboyfriends at gmail.com off we go now very busy bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye okay okay surely oh I'm sorry on your marks get ready go open that door and you can should we do it into camera all that sorry can we just make that the intro all that

1:02:38me being so fucking serious and then you do this and then you

From the publisher

Denis and Mark are joined by their very first guest and Internet Girlfriend — the iconic Juno Birch, the pastel-alien queen known for her surreal drag, chaotic Sims playthroughs, and lovingly unhinged YouTube universe.


What starts as a chat about DragCon suddenly becomes a full tour of throwing dolls off balconies, Dublin boxing arenas, Sims addiction, bizarre fan gifts, and Cyril the toothless ginger cat with sunburnt ears. Plus a deep dive into cabaret, confidence, American vs UK audiences, and the dream of living in a pink desert bungalow.


This episode includes:


  • DragCon, booth-bitching and sticker sales
  • Doll decapitations in San Francisco
  • Dina Martina, artistic ba*****ds and cabaret inspiration
  • How Irish crowds shout back (and why that’s good)
  • Sims unaliving, cages, neighbours and 8-hour streams
  • Gifted computers from bee farmers and cursed fan art
  • Cyril’s fangs, sun cream disaster and nightly neck-sleeping


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