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Podcast Summary: 'In Good Health': Why Is Colorectal Cancer Affecting Generations Differently?
Podcast Overview Podcast Title: 1A Episode Title: 'In Good Health': Why Is Colorectal Cancer Affecting Generations Differently? Description: The episode discusses the significant rise in colorectal cancer among younger individuals, exploring reasons behind this generational change and preventive measures.
Key Takeaways
Rising Incidence Rates
- Significant Increase: Colorectal cancer cases in young people (under 50) have risen nearly 60% since the early 2000s.
- Generational Disparity:
- Individuals born around 1990 are four times more likely to develop rectal cancer compared to those born around 1950.
- Conversely, colorectal cancer rates have decreased in individuals aged 65 and older.
Contributing Factors
- Epidemiological Findings:
- The increases are primarily seen in rectal cancer and the sigmoid colon.
- Young adults (under 50) see an increase of about 3% per year, and 66% of those are screened.
- Birth Cohort Effect: Each generation born after 1950 has a higher risk of developing colorectal cancer.
- Challenges in Diagnosis: Delays in diagnosis are common among younger patients due to symptoms being overlooked or misattributed to benign issues like hemorrhoids.
Expert Panel Insights Dr. Jeffrey Meyerhardt
- Emphasized the increasing number of younger patients presenting with colorectal cancer.
- Stressed the importance of awareness regarding symptoms like rectal bleeding.
Dr. Mark Pochapin
- Noted that although alarming, the rise in colorectal cancer rates is not a surprise to gastroenterology experts who have observed similar trends.
- Advocated for immediate evaluation of any rectal bleeding, especially in young patients.
Rebecca Siegel
- Highlighted the shocking changes in colorectal cancer epidemiology.
- Discussed the need for ongoing research to understand the causes behind this increase, including potential environmental and lifestyle factors.
Symptoms and Screening Guidelines
- Symptoms to Watch For:
- Rectal bleeding
- Unexplained anemia (particularly iron deficiency)
- Changes in bowel habits (not just occasional, but ongoing)
- Thinning of stools
- Screening Recommendations:
- General screening now starts at age 45.
- For individuals with a family history of colorectal cancer or polyps, screening should begin 10 years prior to the age at which the youngest family member was diagnosed.
Lifestyle Factors and Prevention
- Diet and Exercise:
- High body weight and physical inactivity are risk factors.
- Diets high in processed meats and low in fiber are associated with increased risk.
- Gut Health:
- The gut microbiome's health may be influenced by antibiotic use and diet, but more research is needed to establish definite connections with colorectal cancer.
Importance of Family History
- Family health history plays a crucial role in determining screening timelines.
- Open communication about family medical history is essential to enhance early detection and intervention.
Call to Action
- Encourage conversations around colorectal cancer symptoms and family history during family gatherings.
- Emphasize the importance of awareness and proactive health checks to allow for early diagnosis and treatment.
Conclusion The episode sheds light on the increasing rates of colorectal cancer among younger generations, advocating for better awareness, early screening, and lifestyle modifications to combat this concerning trend. By understanding the factors contributing to this rise and the significance of proactive health management, individuals can take steps to protect their gut and overall health.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding Colorectal Cancer Trends
0:25 to 1:10
Explore the alarming rise of colorectal cancer among younger generations.
“That's according to data from the CDC and the National Cancer Institute.”
Analyzing Rising Rates of Colorectal Cancer
2:22 to 4:19
Delve into the statistics and implications of rising colorectal cancer rates in younger patients.
“She's an epidemiologist and senior director of cancer surveillance research at the American Cancer Society.”
Challenges for Younger Patients
4:19 to 6:13
Understand the unique challenges faced by younger individuals diagnosed with colorectal cancer.
“What was your initial reaction to what you found as you were analyzing this data?”
Identifying Symptoms of Colorectal Cancer
6:13 to 10:29
Learn about the critical symptoms of colorectal cancer that should not be ignored.
“I think we do have to make sure that people understand, particularly younger patients, but everyone, if they see rectal bleeding, they can't just write it off as hemorrhoids or something that will go away.”
Birth Cohort Effect and Its Implications
12:48 to 14:03
Explore the birth cohort effect on colorectal cancer risks and future implications.
“Let's get back into our conversation about the rise of colorectal cancers in young people.”
Understanding the Rise in Colorectal Cancer
14:03 to 14:48
Learn about the concerning increase in colorectal cancer rates among younger populations.
“So that's very concerning and just something really important I want people to understand.”
Demographics of Colorectal Cancer
14:48 to 16:10
Explore how colorectal cancer affects different demographics and the implications.
“Rebecca, in this research, were there any other cohorts that had higher rates of colorectal cancer?”
Screening Guidelines and Family History
16:10 to 18:07
Discover the updated screening guidelines and the role of family history in cancer detection.
“Well, another member of the tax club writes this, two people close to me have experienced this.”
The Role of Polyps in Colorectal Cancer
18:07 to 20:04
Understand how polyps can develop into cancer and the importance of their removal.
“in your mid to late 30s because, again, that could have become a cancer.”
Investigating Causes of Increased Cancer Rates
20:04 to 23:26
Examine potential causes for the rising rates of colorectal cancer in younger adults.
“finding the polyp and removing it prevents it from ever having the opportunity.”
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Home Screening Tests for Colorectal Cancer
23:26 to 27:18
Learn about the availability and effectiveness of at-home screening tests for colorectal cancer.
“So this tells us that some change in behavior or exposure was introduced around the middle of the 20th century.”
Gut Microbiome and Colorectal Cancer
27:18 to 28:01
Explore the potential connections between gut health and colorectal cancer.
“They all will need to be followed up to the abnormal.”
Microbiome Influences on Health
28:01 to 28:36
Learn about the role of the microbiome and its impact on health.
“There are good bacteria and harmful bacteria, and the balance of those is key.”
Understanding Colorectal Cancer Trends
29:17 to 30:52
Explore the rapid rise of colorectal cancer in younger populations.
“rates of colorectal cancers in younger people.”
The Colonoscopy Experience Explained
30:53 to 32:51
Get insights into the colonoscopy procedure and what to expect.
“clean, and that's something that's on the patient really responsibility to do.”
Dietary Factors in Cancer Risk
32:51 to 36:08
Understand how diet and lifestyle influence colorectal cancer risk.
“Well, we're getting lots of questions about how to keep our colons healthy.”
Environmental Factors and Cancer
36:08 to 39:29
Discuss the potential environmental causes of rising colorectal cancer rates.
“And those are really key in terms of trying to prevent this earlier rise.”
Starting Conversations about Family Health
39:29 to 42:00
Learn the importance of discussing family health history openly.
“What's your history of, you know, colonoscopy outcomes?”
The Importance of Discussing Symptoms with Healthcare Providers
42:00 to 43:09
Learn why having open conversations about symptoms with doctors is crucial for timely diagnosis.
“Yeah, I mean, I think, again, as has been emphasized, is to, you know, it's really important to bring up symptoms that you're having with your providers, right?”
Patient Advocacy and Early Diagnosis
43:10 to 43:52
Understand the significance of patient advocacy in obtaining life-saving diagnoses.
“which is just a vein that could bleed, particularly when people defecate.”
Expert Insights on Colorectal Cancer and Demographics
43:53 to 44:48
Explore how the demographic landscape of colorectal cancer diagnosis is changing.
“these delays in diagnosis, either on the provider side or on the patient side or both.”
Transcript
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0:24Colorectal cancer cases in young people have risen nearly 60 percent since the early 2000s. That's according to data from the CDC and the National Cancer Institute. A new study out this month by the American Cancer Society underscores this rise, finding that colorectal cancer is now the deadliest cancer for those younger than 50. But the rise is generational. People born around 1990 are four times as likely to develop rectal cancer than those born around 1950. And for those 65 and older, colorectal cancers have actually been decreasing. I'm Jen White. You're listening to the 1A Podcast. Today, for our latest installment of In Good Health, we ask, what's going on?
1:07And what can we do to protect ourselves and our gut health? We'll get to those questions and more after this short break. Stay with us.
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2:04Dr. Meyerhardt, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me, Jen. Also with us, Dr. Mark Pochapin. He's the division chief of gastroenterology and hepatology at NYU Langen Health. He's also a host on SiriusXM's Dr. Radio. Dr. Pochapin, thanks for joining us. It's so great to be here. Thanks for having me. And also with us, Rebecca Siegel. She's an epidemiologist and senior director of cancer surveillance research at the American Cancer Society. Rebecca, welcome back. Thank you so much. Very happy to be with you. And to know that the information given here is not medical advice, it's not a replacement for your own physician.
2:42Rebecca, let's start with this analysis that came out this month. You're the lead author on it, and it's about the rates of colorectal cancer in young people. Talk us through these rising numbers we're seeing. Yes. So it's quite shocking how the landscape of colorectal cancer is changing, how rapidly it's changing. And this report actually looked at colorectal cancer overall in the United States. And even though incidence and mortality are continuing to decline overall, those rates are, that trend is really driven by the oldest adults, 65 and older. And in that age group, rates are decreasing by more than 2 % per year.
3:27But we're increasingly seeing a younger age at diagnosis so that people under 50 have an increase of about 3 % per year. And even people in middle age, 50 to 64, have an increase in incidence of 0.4 % per year, which seems really small and maybe not important. But the surprising thing about that is that 66 % of those folks are being screened for colorectal cancer. So it's really surprising that we can see any increase at all because colorectal cancer screening typically prevents cancer. And the other thing that makes that surprising is that rates were decreasing at the same magnitude that they are in older adults prior to the increase.
4:18And so it's because of what we call a birth cohort effect that we can describe later. What was your initial reaction to what you found as you were analyzing this data? I was very surprised because we actually are reporting an increase in rectal cancer incidents across the board for all ages combined for the first time since cancer rates have been recorded. So previously, rectal cancer incidents had been declining. I think part of that is because we've long been able to do rectal exams because we're only talking about six inches in. And so rates have been declining for many, many decades. But now we're seeing an increase in rectal cancer.
5:08And the reason is because this increase in incidence is primarily confined to cancers in the rectum and the sigmoid colon, which is that part of the colon that's right next to the rectum. So we're talking about the very end of the large intestine. Dr. Porteapin, what was your initial reaction when you learned about these rising rates, especially among younger cohorts? Well, although it's alarming, I think in the gastrointestinal world, we're not surprised because we've been seeing it clinically. We're seeing younger adults present with rectal bleeding, as Rebecca mentioned, because the cancer is lower in the colon, it often presents with either blood loss or bleeding.
5:52So we've been seeing it. And actually, we've seen a rise over the past 10 plus years. But what's so alarming is the continued rise and the rate of rise, especially when And the rest of this story is such a public health success story of increased screening and older adults dropping both in incidence and mortality. But it's alarming. I think we do have to make sure that people understand, particularly younger patients, but everyone, if they see rectal bleeding, they can't just write it off as hemorrhoids or something that will go away. It needs to be evaluated. And I think in the medical community, what Rebecca is talking about is something that we need to apply clinically, meaning that if someone presents with rectal blini and they're young, you need to evaluate it almost certainly with a colonoscopy to make sure that there's nothing going on that might be missed.
6:44What unfortunately happens is, and we have data to support this, that younger people are delayed in their diagnosis because very often either they don't present or it's written off as something that's really minor, like a hemorrhoid, which it certainly could be. We don't want to create panic. But the point is that it can't be ignored. It needs to be addressed by someone who will take it very seriously and make sure we rule out the more concerning conditions. Dr. Meyerhard, when you hear this data, how different is your understanding of this disease and who it affects from, say, 20 years ago? Yeah, no, and I absolutely agree with the comments so far.
7:21I mean, we are also seeing, I work in a dedicated cancer center. We have always seen younger people overall with disease because often they'll come to us into the city or a dedicated cancer center, but we definitely have many more patients that are under the age of 50 that we're seeing. And these data now have had some awareness for over a decade, but we're still seeing every year, and there's been a lot of stories about that, and every year we're still seeing an increase, which is concerning, because we're hoping, obviously, with all the coverage that's being done, including in this program, to have people aware that if they have symptoms, particularly bleeding or other bowel symptoms, to really bring that to the attention of their physician.
8:06But the delay of diagnosis is real. We'll see people at a later stage, more patients at a stage, unfortunately, that's often not curable or a later stage with a higher risk of recurrence. And that is still alarming. Well, we're hearing from many of you. A member of our tax club writes, My mom died of colorectal cancer at 46. We have a genetic family link. Thank goodness we all get tested early and often. And another of you shared this. My brother died of colon cancer at 48. He had symptoms for four years but did not have insurance, and he never shared his concerns with our family. We lost him over a period of 10 months from time of diagnosis.
8:44It is an insidious disease. I wish they had started urging family members of people with polyps to start getting tested at 40. It may have saved his life. Losing him was the worst thing that has ever happened to our family. Dr. Meyerhardt, for the younger generation who's now more likely to be diagnosed with colorectal cancer, What are some of the unique challenges this age group faces when diagnosed, including things like sexual health, fertility, or even access to health care? Yeah, I mean, I think it's all of what you just said. I mean, these, you know, being diagnosed in your, it depends on your decades.
9:21So being diagnosed in your 20s, you know, some of them are still in schooling. They're just finishing schooling and starting a career. They're starting potentially a family. And there's all those issues related to trying to get treatment, trying to work, trying to create those social connections and establish yourself in a community. Same with the people in their 30s. They just have different considerations. They have parents that they're also helping to take care of. So there's a lot of different challenges that, depending on the decade of life that you're getting treated, that have to be accounted for.
9:57And health insurance is also a real thing. As, you know, once patients are off past age 25, they're off of their potential family's health insurance and they're on their own. Depending on their job depends on the insurance product they pick, which could have a high burden in terms of co-pays and deductibles and obligations that they have too. And getting treated for cancer is expensive. And these are considerations in how they do overall planning. We have lots more to discuss, but before we go any further, Dr. Pochapin, what are the symptoms of colorectal cancer people should look out for? You mentioned bleeding, but what are some of the other signs that may not be as obvious that there could be an issue?
10:44And Jen, thank you for bringing up symptoms. I want to first just make the distinction between symptoms and screening. And we talk about screening, starting everybody at age 45 or younger, 40 or younger, depending on what the family history is. You mentioned some of these really upsetting phone calls and emails that you get about people who have younger onset. Knowing your family history is critically important, starting 10 years before the onset of the youngest person in the family. But that's screening. That's a healthy person who has no symptoms. What you're asking about is what are the presenting signs or symptoms of someone with colorectal cancer.
11:21We mentioned rectal bleeding, unexplained anemia, particularly iron deficiency anemia. Now, a lot of young women do have iron deficiency anemia because of menses and not repleting the iron. However, if there is new iron deficiency anemia, that should be investigated. a change in bowel habits and frequency, and not just once or twice, but an ongoing change. New constipation, thinning of the stools, where the stool looks a little bit more like a pencil, that it's being extruded through something more narrow, more difficulty passing the bowel movements. Again, these things can happen. Everybody develops intermittent constipation.
11:59If it's consistent and persistent, it needs to be evaluated. Let's take a quick break here. coming up, why we might be seeing this rising rate of colorectal cancer, and when you should talk to your doctor about getting a colonoscopy. We'll be right back.
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13:01Can we infer a risk somewhere between those groups for 45-year-olds, or is it more complicated than that? Rebecca, I'll come to you. Sure. So I referenced before the birth cohort effect, and it's actually the most important message of this research because what it means is that people who are born after 1950 have higher risk. Every generation born after 1950 has a little bit higher risk than the generation before. And that's the reason that we're seeing an increase now in middle-aged people, because those who are on the beginning of that wave of higher risk, like me, I was born in the 1960s, I've aged into middle age.
13:50And so we're bringing that higher risk with us into middle age. And what that tells us is that the increase in young adults is a canary in the coal mine for the future burden of colorectal cancer until we understand what's causing this increase and are able to intervene. So that's very concerning and just something really important I want people to understand. This is not an early onset problem. Now we're seeing an increase in death rates in people 50 to 64, again, who have a pretty high level of screening. And so research is key to understanding what's causing this. But very important idea to understand.
14:37We got this message from another member of the tax club. My son-in-law's father was the CEO of a publicly traded company at the age of 47 and died of colorectal cancer at 50. His loss illustrates that cancer strikes without regard to age, economic status, or education. Rebecca, in this research, were there any other cohorts that had higher rates of colorectal cancer? Did you control for sex? Did you control for race or economic status? In this particular study, we haven't, but we've done a lot of research over the past 15, 20 years on this topic. So we've been following this. And what we're seeing is that the steepest increase, first of all, rates are increasing across race and ethnicity, across socioeconomic status, and across the country.
15:33And in fact, this is also happening in many countries in the world now, mostly high-income countries, but not all. and but what we are seeing that's extremely concerning is that American Indian and Alaska Native people have the steepest increase of early onset disease which is only exacerbating their already high burden they have the highest incidence of mortality in the country and in fact Alaska Native people have the highest incidence of mortality in the world for reasons that aren't aren't well understood. And so there are differences in the burden, but the increase in disease is happening across populations.
16:19Well, another member of the tax club writes this, two people close to me have experienced this. One was just 30, the other more recently, a male aged 45. Early detection is what saved their lives, and there's just no underestimating the importance of colonoscopies. Dr. Meyerhardt, in 2021, guidelines lowered the age recommended for colonoscopies from 50 to 45. We talked earlier about some of the symptoms people should look out for, including blood in the stool, changes in bowel habits. When should people be screened for colorectal cancer? Yeah, so as you said, the screening for the general population was changed to age 45.
17:00To bring up, again, there are a percentage, up to 15%, 20 % of patients diagnosed with colorectal cancer have a family history. And that could come in two forms. It could be either something that's been genetically passed on over generations, or it could just be a family history that we don't know specifically the gene. And that does affect when you think about initially screening. So the general guidelines, if someone has a family history that's not considered a germline, something that's passed on from generations, is to be 10 years prior to the diagnosis. One of your earlier viewer questions brought up the issue that they had a family member who had a polyp.
17:43And I would also want to emphasize polyps. Most colorectal cancers start as polyps. And if you remove a polyp, it prevents a cancer. So knowing your family history of family members who's also had polyps is important because that also should be considered if your dad had a colonoscopy at age 48 and had some polyps, you should have an initial colonoscopy in your mid to late 30s because, again, that could have become a cancer. So family history is an important consideration thinking of initial age. for those who don't have a family history. Again, the guidelines right now are to start at age 45, but as we're seeing from the statistics, particularly where there's even a higher increase rate in the 20s and 30s, is trying to figure out who are the patients who are potentially higher risk.
18:37Because it's probably not realistic that we can screen everyone starting at age 20 with the current screening techniques and potential risks of also screening screening that are small, but there if you do in a very large population. So trying to understand who are the ones who are higher risk in their 20s and 30s and 40s, I think really will help with earlier detection in the right populations. Dr. Perchapin, when we talk about polyps that may be found during a colonoscopy, just sort of connect the dots for us. How and when does a polyp actually develop into cancer. Thanks, Jen. This is a very important point because colon cancer is actually one of the most preventable of cancers.
19:23The other one, I would say, would be cervical through pap smear. But other cancers, when we do screening for, we're actually looking for an early cancer when it's highly curable. And that's true with colon cancer as well. But we're trying to prevent the disease. And that's how colonoscopy is so powerful, by finding these polyps. Now, we believe most cancers that we heard comes from polyps, but not all polyps turn cancerous. Yet, if we find polyps and remove them, we prevent every one of those polyps from ever having the opportunity to turn cancerous. And it takes years for that process to happen, 10, 15 plus years.
19:57And so, we have a real big window of opportunity, and that's why generally we screen every 10 years, starting at age 45, the next would be 55 if no polyps are found. finding the polyp and removing it prevents it from ever having the opportunity. And even though not many polyps will turn cancerous, by removing all the polyps, we hopefully prevent almost all of the cancers through the screening. So that's why knowing your family history and getting started at the right time is so important because starting younger, and we did a study on this actually, and we looked at a database and we found that younger people below the age of 40 even have a high percentage of polyps.
20:36So we're seeing not only more cancers, but more of these polyps. And that's why if someone has a family history where someone had larger or multiple polyps, they should get screened younger as well as if the family had a family history of colon cancer. Well, we got this email from Matthew in Cincinnati who says, what do researchers and doctors think is causing the increased rate of colorectal cancer in young adults? Is it diet, lifestyle, use of controlled substances? We've had some people ask about sexual habits. Rebecca, how much do we know about what might be causing this increase, not just in colorectal cancer, but as we just heard there from Dr.
21:14Pochapin, also an increase in just the number of polyps they're finding? Sure. So that's a great question. We actually know a lot about what causes colorectal cancer in general. and about half of colorectal cancers are attributed to these risk factors. But the problem is that these risk factors were established based on older adults who have different exposures than the people, than the generations that we're talking about now who have increased risk. So studies, there have been a few studies that have looked at younger adults, but it's very difficult because, again, most established cohorts are older individuals because this is so unusual.
22:04Cancer doesn't usually happen in people under 50, particularly colorectal cancer. And so there has been a few studies. One study attributed about 20 % of the current increase in risk to excess body weight, Probably sedentary activity is also contributing. But interestingly, especially because of where these cancers are occurring, the established risk factors don't seem to at least completely explain this increase. And here's a quick example. Physical inactivity, it's very strongly associated with colon cancer risk. And we know this from older adults. So this is a very established risk factor. But interestingly, it's specifically associated with cancers in the colon, and there doesn't seem to be an association with cancer in the rectum, which is what's driving this increase.
23:09And so that's why we think it's probably a newer exposure. And the birth cohort effect tells us the timing of this exposure Because again, we're seeing an increase in generations born after 1950. So this tells us that some change in behavior or exposure was introduced around the middle of the 20th century. That's increasing our risk of colorectal cancer. And there's a lot of studies ongoing around the world looking at things from antibiotic use, high antibiotic use in young children, as well as processed foods. We know already that processed meat is classified as a carcinogen because of its association with colorectal cancer.
24:02So ultra-processed foods are also something of interest as well as microplastics. So a lot of this research is ongoing, but it will take time. We are getting lots of questions about the ability to screen for colorectal cancer at home, specifically about the Cologuard at home test. Dr. Meyerhardt, what can you tell us about the use of that test as a way to screen at home, especially before you may qualify for a colonoscopy? yeah so what we know is there are actually multiple techniques that are that can be used to screen for colorectal cancer and each of them have advantages and disadvantages in different what we call sensitivity ability to detect disease if it's there and specificity you know knowing if the disease is there, if it's going to be positive or negative.
25:05And you want to avoid false negatives as well as try to reduce false positives because that would lead to additional testing. The simplest is sending home stool cards that you collect some stool and essentially looking for blood in the stool. And that actually is where there's the most and largest data from very large studies that have actually shown a decrease in colorectal cancer incidence and mortality. It is also the least sensitive. And it's not as sensitive to detect polyps, which, as was discussed earlier, are really what we want to find in patients. Um, colonoscopy is, is still considered the gold standard where you could visualize, um, the entire colon and again, act if you see something that's of concern, either a polyp or, or some, uh, patch that looks like it needs to be biopsied to make sure there's not changes in the cells.
26:07Um, in between is, is, is other techniques. There's a CT way to kind of look inside the colon, but that, again, has to be followed for colonoscopy if they find anything abnormal. And better than just looking for blood in the stool are various DNA tests, ColoGuard being one of them, which has had increasing data in terms of sensitivity and relative ease for patients because they can do it at home and send it back. And then, again, it needs to be followed up with a colonoscopy. And it does also have a lower sensitivity for polyps relatively compared to a colonoscopy. But I think the key message that most of us want to give is that some type of screening is certainly better than not doing screening at all.
26:59And the more sensitive the test is probably better. And each of the tests have different cadence or frequency that you have to do depending on the results of that test. So I think stool tests at home are important because they could be given a wider population. They all will need to be followed up to the abnormal. But again, the importance is to do some type of screening. We got this email from Barbara who says, My daughter was one who died before 50 of colon cancer. I've heard of a possible connection with gut biome. She had rheumatic fever as a child and took an antibiotic daily for over a decade, as was recommended at the time.
27:37Has this been looked into? Now, we did hear some reference from you, Rebecca, about antibiotics. But what more can you tell us about what's being the possible connections between the health of the gut biome and colorectal cancer? Yes. The gut microbiome is a large area of interest. And of course, we're talking about many exposures that can influence this microbiome. There are good bacteria and harmful bacteria, and the balance of those is key. So there's, I would say, in terms of the research on antibiotic use, there's some evidence, but certainly not definitive. And so there is more work to do on all of these exposures.
28:31Still to come, how to keep your gut healthy and we answer more of your questions. That's just ahead.
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29:00up to 55 % off your Babbel subscription right now at babbel.com slash NPR, spelled B-A-B-B-E-L.com slash NPR. Rules and restrictions may apply. Let's get back to our conversation about rising rates of colorectal cancers in younger people. Here's the message we got in our voicemail. It's because they've gotten so good at treating it, those genes are now being passed on to the next generation, where in the old days, someone diagnosed with that, it was a death sentence, and they were taken out of the gene pool. Rebecca, I'm curious to hear your thoughts. So the increase that we're seeing is thought to all be sporadic disease, meaning that it's not driven by genetic changes in the population, which happened very, very slowly over time.
29:56And this change that we're seeing is rapid. It's even faster than epidemiologists expected. For example, it was predicted that colorectal cancer would be the leading cause of cancer death in people under 50 by 2030, 2040. and we just reported that, in fact, that has happened already. So this is a very fast change that is likely not related to germline mutations. Well, we have talked a lot about colonoscopies, Dr. Pochapin, but we haven't actually described what that experience is like, and there are people who are hesitant. I've had one. I wouldn't say I looked forward to it, but it was fine. walk us through what happens when you have a colonoscopy.
30:46Sure. So the worst part of the procedure is actually before you even get there, and that's the bowel prep. The colon has to be clean, and that's something that's on the patient really responsibility to do. It requires drinking a laxative. There are many different forms of it. Usually the night before and the morning of, we split the prep. And I say to my patients when they get to the endoscopy unit that the worst is over. The worst part is actually that bowel prep, because now what happens is you are brought into the procedure room and you're sedated, and the sedation really puts you in a state of real deep sleep where the next thing you really recall is actually waking up in the recovery area.
31:27We now use almost always carbon dioxide to inflate the bowel, which absorbs very quickly. In the old days, people would wake up very distended, like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day balloon, but now, because the carbon dioxide is absorbed, patients feel really comfortable waking up. In fact, the sedative often makes people feel really relaxed. So at the end of the procedure, patients are also relieved that the procedure is over. When we do it, when we're actually performing the procedure when someone's asleep, a tube which has a camera on the end and a working channel, an opening through the middle, will actually be inserted in the rectum and is gently advanced to the very origin of the colon, where the appendix is and where the connection to the small intestine is.
32:12And then we look very, very carefully. And if we find a polyp, we remove it. It's both therapeutic in the sense of removing the polyp and diagnostic by seeing the polyp and finding it in the first place. So that's why colonoscopy is so effective in a preventative measure, because it's more than just finding something. It's removing that polyp that could develop cancer. And patients feel well afterwards. Sometimes they may have to be careful, for the next day or two or change the medications like anticoagulation if a large polyp is removed. But by and large, it's really the prep that people don't look forward to.
32:46The procedure itself is not that big a deal from the patient experience and highly, highly effective. Well, we're getting lots of questions about how to keep our colons healthy. One member of the tax club writes, I hope the panel will talk about the importance of eating fiber that's found in beans and eating vegetables like cauliflower, cabbage, and kale. And Shelley writes, wishing and hoping that the guests will look at lifestyle and what has happened since the 60s, much less movement in our bodies and way more processed foods. Now, Rebecca alluded to processed foods as something that's being researched, a possible connection there with colorectal cancer.
33:22But Dr. Meyerhardt, you've done a lot of research on diet and exercise in this space. What can you tell us about the role it plays? Yeah. So I always describe this as the disease that we probably have the most, or the cancer that we have the most knowledge in things that relatively can infect one's risk of developing disease. Now, with any of these, people could do sort of all the right things and unfortunately still develop colorectal cancer and they could have habits that we would think would be more detrimental and higher risk and not develop disease. Similar to Not all smokers get lung cancer, and there's definitely a risk of people getting lung cancer who've never smoked.
34:08But the common ones which Dr. Siegel went over in terms of what we know the most of overall for colorectal cancer is related to people who are active. So physical activity lowers the risk, particularly in colon cancer, less in rectal cancer. relatively. The people we have seen increasing rates of higher BMIs and obesity, both the United States and many other countries, that we do think is associated both with overall risk of colorectal cancer as well as in younger people. And there are multiple components to diet that have been associated with risk of developing disease. Fiber is one that's been sort of talked about, and lots and lots of studies have been done over decades.
34:59Some of those data are a little mixed in terms of how much fiber and the type of fiber can relatively impact one's risk of disease. We do know more of a Western pattern, higher processed meat. Red meats are associated with increased risk and studies have looked specifically in people who are younger who develop colorectal cancer have shown those associations as well. Processed meat and alter, sorry, processed food and alter processed food has also been associated with increased risk. And then overall something that develops into something called metabolic syndrome, which is sort of a combination of several things that have also been associated with diabetes do seem to have an increased risk, particularly as well as in early onset colorectal cancer.
35:55So those are all factors that we know, but how much each of them affects the earlier onset versus overall colorectal cancer is still to be worked out and how all those interact with the microbiome that was discussed earlier. And then some factors that I think we still don't realized yet. And those are really key in terms of trying to prevent this earlier rise. Dr. Portolapin, anything you would add? Yeah, well, first of all, I love the fact that we're focusing on health and wellness because what's healthy for the colon is healthy for the body. The heart, the mind, the body, wellness in general is often overlooked.
36:31I don't want people to think that they should be running out and getting all these screening tests, but not focus on what they do in terms of their diet and exercise. And exercise could be just walking. It makes a big difference. So I'm so glad that your listeners have brought that up. The second thing is that there's definitely an environmental component to this. This is not genetic in the sense of what we think of. Rebecca made that clear. And we're looking at all different types of environmental exposures. And one is microplastics. In fact, we have a study ongoing now where we're looking at actually DNA changes in the lining of the colon of patients who've had colon cancer.
37:07And so we need to really expand what we're looking at as type of environmental exposures and what's actually changing that is causing this increase. And I think we have a lot of people interested in this. Unfortunately, we don't know. But we do know that health and wellness really matters. And so rather than getting too concerned, and we should all be aware of it, and I think your listeners need to know if they have symptoms to get it checked out, but most importantly to recognize that what works to keep you healthy will do a good job for the whole body, not just the colon. Well, and Rebecca, what is the status of research into potential environmental factors?
37:44So not diet, not exercise, but things we just may be living with. Yeah, those things are unfortunately a little bit harder to study because they're so prevalent. And so, you know, again, there are absolutely efforts. The increasing in early onset colorectal cancer has really driven a lot of the research on contemporary exposures because we know it's something that happened in the latter half of the 20th century. And so, I mean, unfortunately, when you think about it, we're eating a lot of processed food and ultra-processed food, and they're all packaged in plastics. And so then you have a double whammy if, in fact, these two things are associated with increased risk.
38:36So all of this is very difficult to study. But I do want to add that there's a lot that can be done to mitigate deaths from this disease by doing all the things we've been talking about, you know, having a healthy diet, being physically active, maintaining a healthy body weight, all of those things. but also destigmatizing this disease and its symptoms is so important because one of the earlier callers mentioned that their brother had symptoms and didn't even speak to his family about it. And so especially with younger patients, it's so important to talk about this. So I'm really glad that we're covering this topic today and just want to encourage people to maybe change the dinner table conversation to, you know, dad, what's your family?
39:29What's your history of, you know, colonoscopy outcomes? And just talking about these things more will facilitate earlier diagnosis and can save lives. The five-year survival for people under 50 for local stage colorectal cancer is 95%. So it really matters trying to get people diagnosed earlier. I want to get to one more message we got from some of you. I didn't see a doctor after symptoms first appeared, like when I was in my early 40s, and just sort of ignored or avoided the doctor thinking there's nothing. Blood in my skull basically was the main symptom. But people should get checked out. I am that number of people under the screening age getting diagnosed with cancer.
40:18I'm also a doctor, so it's really impacted my strenuous advice for everyone to get screened and to talk with their doctor about family history. It can get you an earlier screening. Now it's at age 45 for everybody, but 40 or sooner if you have a family history. So be sure to get screened, everyone. It can really save your life. Thanks for those messages. Dr. Pochapine, talk about the importance of getting that family history, but also if this is a difficult topic for your family, how do you start that conversation? Look, there's nothing more important than our health. And I think when there are family gatherings, I talk even Thanksgiving, we talk about what we're grateful for.
41:00Our health should be one of those things that should be brought up. We can't keep these things secret in our family because it can affect the people we care most about. So ask your family, is there cancer? And not just colon cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer. Other cancers may have an effect that may need more evaluation, like genetic evaluation. It's so important to talk about these things. I always say, if you're diagnosed with a polyp, tell your family. A polyp is a family problem. We need to make sure that people discuss this and their symptoms, as we heard the caller say. It's so important because if you keep it to yourself, it could really not only grow and develop but lead to very serious consequences.
41:41We got this email from Lindsay who says, I'm 29 years old and had IBS practically my whole life and developed hemorrhoids in my early 20s. Symptoms that I understand can put me at risk of developing colorectal cancer. What can young people with symptoms like I have do to improve our chances of avoiding a cancer diagnosis? Dr. Meyerhardt, what's your guidance there? Yeah, I mean, I think, again, as has been emphasized, is to, you know, it's really important to bring up symptoms that you're having with your providers, right? Because, yes, most people who have hemorrhoid symptoms or even bleeding who are young, it probably is not cancer.
42:24But some of them, unfortunately, it's going to be. and to have that conversation and really share the history and how long it's been going on for and really push to have an evaluation to make sure that there really isn't something more worrisome that's going on and obviously to treat the symptoms because hemorrhoids are also uncomfortable to patients and it's important to get treatment for those as well. But I think bringing up your history and not just assuming it's something else is really a key message. Well, and just to clarify, Dr. Pochapin, a hemorrhoid is not the same as a polyp, so it's not a cancer indicator, correct?
43:07That's correct, exactly, although you shouldn't assume something's just a hemorrhoid, which is just a vein that could bleed, particularly when people defecate. But if there are hemorrhoids, they should be evaluated by a doctor to make sure that's what they are and there's nothing else going on. We got this email from Debbie in Kentucky who says, my daughter was diagnosed with rectal cancer at 44 years old. She was lucky because she advocated for herself and had to go to three doctors before she was taken seriously. They continually dismissed her, saying the bleeding was probably hemorrhoids because she was too young.
43:35It took nearly a year for her to find a doctor who would listen. Briefly, Rebecca, what needs to change on the physician side to adapt to this new population of patients and this new cancer landscape? Yeah, unfortunately, three in four people under 50 are diagnosed with advanced stage disease, a lot of times because of these delays in diagnosis, either on the provider side or on the patient side or both. And in fact, the increase that we're seeing now in people who are middle age is confined to advanced stage diagnosis. And so if you are having any of these symptoms that we've been talking about, go to a doctor and as the caller did, go to multiple doctors because being diagnosed earlier can save your life.
44:23Well, that's Rebecca Siegel. She's an epidemiologist and senior director of cancer surveillance research at the American Cancer Society. Also with us, Dr. Jeffrey Meyerhart. He's a gastrointestinal medical oncologist. He's also the co-director of the Colon and Rectal Cancer Center and chief clinical research officer at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston. and Dr. Mark Pochafin. He's a Division Chief of Gastroenterology and Hepatology at NYU Langan Health. Thanks to you all. Today's producer was Michelle Harbin. And we're broadcasting today's program from WFDD in Winston-Salem, North Carolina as part of the station's 80th anniversary and special thanks to WFDD staff who've helped make this possible, including George Newman, Lori McCroskey, and Tom Dolanmayer.
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