In short
1A Friday News Roundup (Sept 18, 2026). Main focus is escalating AI safety alarms (Anthropic/OpenAI “rogue” agents, deception/hacking, calls to pause and regulate), alongside economic and foreign-policy shocks tied to the Iran war, plus midterm-election politics (mail voting, non-citizen voting claims, polling) and other U.S. headlines (immigration limits, menopause research hearing, McConnell’s return, Russian oligarch ties to Trump Jr. wedding).
Guests (backgrounds)
Margaret Taleb, senior contributor for Axios and director at Syracuse University Institute for Democracy, Journalism, and Citizenship. Arthur Delaney, senior reporter at HuffPost. Shelley Banjo, deputy editor-in-chief of Semaphore. International panel: Abigail Hauslohner (Financial Times, U.S. Middle East foreign affairs correspondent), Joyce Karam (All Monitor editor-in-chief), Vera Bergen-Groon (Wall Street Journal national security reporter).
Key claims
AI is advancing faster than lawmakers can regulate; Congress is reacting but lacks clear authority and presidential leadership. OpenAI reports six new agent incidents (e.g., inventing missing data, unauthorized actions, file passing via message boards). CBO attributes 40% of Q2 inflation to the Iran war; Fed’s first hike in three years to 3.9% raises borrowing costs. Trump calls AI and related concerns “a hoax,” and is furious at the Fed. Iran war damage includes hundreds of base buildings and a classified “mission statement” for Operation Epic Fury. ProPublica alleges Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev funded parts of Trump Jr.’s wedding, raising national-security/corruption concerns.
Notable examples
Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei warnings; OpenAI agent incidents; proposed “Frontier Act” and “kill switch” bills; diesel prices up 66% and gas up 45%; Supreme Court blocks Trump mail-ballot order; House vote to end the Iran war (7 GOP join Democrats); ProPublica/Kremlev wedding details; Yemen Houthis seizing Mocha and advancing toward Saudi territory; U.S. direct contact with Houthis despite FTO label.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAI Concerns and Technology Warnings
0:43 to 1:18
Discuss the urgent warnings about the dangers of AI technology.
“You know, it takes a lot to get nearly all of America's most powerful people and everyday people from coast to coast talking about the same emergency.”
The Political Landscape on AI Regulation
1:18 to 2:11
Explore Congress's reaction and differing opinions on AI regulation.
“artificial intelligence are to be believed, time is short.”
Introducing the Panel: Experts Weigh In
2:11 to 3:08
Meet the panelists discussing current news, including AI's impact.
“Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg says market forces will enforce safety.”
Washington's Response to AI Risks
3:08 to 4:50
Examine how politicians are responding to the AI industry’s warnings.
“And as always, we want to hear from you this hour.”
OpenAI's AI Incidents and Public Transparency
4:50 to 6:01
OpenAI's report on AI incidents and its implications for safety.
“But they're starting to kick some ideas around and it's definitely driven by the warnings from the AI tech titans who are all supposed to trust, who are all leaning on holding up GDP.”
Regulation Challenges and Legislative Efforts
6:01 to 7:45
Investigate the current legislative efforts surrounding AI regulation.
“And so the details weren't really the issue.”
Dissecting the Administration's Stance on AI
7:45 to 10:01
Analyze President Trump's skeptical view on AI safety concerns.
“The easy ones on the data center front, we saw legislation passed this week, the Ratepayer Protection Act.”
Debating Tech Titans' Calls for Regulation
10:01 to 11:28
Discuss the dual motivations behind tech companies' calls for regulation.
“One of the things they want, for example, is an antitrust exemption so that they could be free to coordinate among themselves the biggest AI companies.”
Public Sentiment and Local Action on Data Centers
11:28 to 12:12
Consider public opinions on data centers and their expansion.
“There's a real business case to be made for all this, and we can get into that a little bit later.”
Public Sentiment and Local Action on Data Centers
12:56 to 13:25
Consider public opinions on data centers and their expansion.
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CBO Report: Inflation and Economic Impact of the Iran War
13:30 to 14:03
Learn about the economic implications of the Iran war on inflation.
“And a new Congressional Budget Office report this week says the main reason for that relentless inflation is the war in Iran.”
Rising Diesel Prices and Economic Impact
14:03 to 15:48
Explore the implications of soaring diesel prices on the economy and consumers.
“Millions of big rigs on the highways and a lot more, up 66%, over$6 a gallon,$6.50 a gallon.”
Trump's Response to the Fed Rate Hike
15:48 to 18:58
Discuss Donald Trump's reaction to the Federal Reserve's rate hike and its implications.
“But inflation, look, Shelley Banjo mentioned it.”
Consequences of the War in Iran
18:58 to 20:31
Analyze the ramifications of the war in Iran based on a new Defense report.
“That might have – they have a personal relationship.”
Impeachment Attempts and Political Maneuvering
20:31 to 22:29
Discuss the impeachment attempt against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and its political implications.
“Of course, Secretary Hegseth and Donald Trump have all said what they're trying to do, stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, degrade their missiles.”
Republican Responses to the Iran War and Midterms
22:29 to 25:51
Examine how Republicans are reacting to the Iran war and its potential impact on the midterm elections.
“corollary is, did Massey have the votes to impeach the Secretary of Defense?”
Mail-in Voting and Election Integrity
25:51 to 28:00
Review the Supreme Court's decision on mail-in voting and its effects on the upcoming midterms.
“We've talked about inflation and AI and how they could all impact the midterms.”
Election Trust Issues and Polling Results
28:00 to 30:55
Explore the implications of bad polling for the president and Republicans, focusing on trust in election results and immigration policies.
“and also to legitimize in his base's eyes all of what he's trying to do overall and also to create chaos and confusion so that people don't trust election results if they're not the election results that he would like.”
Investigating Foreign Influence on Trump Family
31:50 to 37:31
Examine the implications of a Russian oligarch's involvement in Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding and the associated political concerns.
“This week, an investigation from ProPublica found that a man named Umar Kremlev personally attended Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding in the Bahamas in May.”
Menopause Hearing in Congress
37:31 to 42:00
Discuss the significance of Congress holding its first hearing on menopause and its implications for women's health research funding.
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Women's Health Research Funding
42:10 to 43:31
Discussion on the lack of research funding for women's health issues.
“This is more than half the population, either having gone through menopause, going through it currently, or it's in their future, I suppose.”
Mitch McConnell's Return to Senate
43:31 to 45:21
Analysis of Mitch McConnell's return to the Senate after his absence.
“Kentucky Republican Senator Mitch McConnell, the former majority leader, back on the Senate floor this week after a three-month absence.”
Mitch McConnell's Return to Senate
45:35 to 45:58
Analysis of Mitch McConnell's return to the Senate after his absence.
“Many people are overpaying on car insurance.”
Global News Roundup
46:06 to 52:19
Overview of international news focusing on conflicts and political dynamics.
“It's the international half of our weekly news roundup.”
Iran and Saudi Relations
52:19 to 56:01
Discussion on Iran's influence in the region and tensions with Saudi Arabia.
“They have their darkest horse in the region.”
Impact of Oil Price Changes
56:01 to 57:20
Discussion on the current oil supply crisis and its implications for various stakeholders.
“What does all this mean now as markets and consumers and truckers and politicians watch the price of oil and the price of diesel?”
U.S. Arms Deal with Israel
57:21 to 59:34
Analysis of the recent U.S. arms deal with Israel and its controversial implications.
“in Saudi Arabia, with the Houthis, in Iran and around the Persian Gulf, and also with Israel.”
Political Dynamics between U.S. and Israel
59:35 to 1:02:08
Exploration of the shifting political relationships between the U.S. and Israel amidst upcoming elections.
“which may be difficult to do, signaling, you know, we're still giving Israel all this support.”
Changing Public Opinion on Israel
1:02:09 to 1:04:25
Examination of American public opinion on Israel and its potential impact on policy.
“But again, like it's been these things that are kind of pretty obvious to them.”
Lebanon's Military Capabilities
1:04:26 to 1:08:21
Analysis of Lebanon’s military situation and the role of Hezbollah amidst ongoing conflict.
“I was at the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting in Las Vegas.”
U.S.-Canada Trade Relations
1:08:22 to 1:10:04
Discussion on the current state of U.S.-Canada trade relations and the impact of tariffs.
“Yeah, I mean, I think it's really hard to say.”
Canada's New Relationship with the EU
1:10:04 to 1:11:31
Discover the implications of Canada becoming the EU's first associate member.
“We must urgently reimagine our partnerships.”
Canada's Strategy Amid U.S. Tensions
1:11:31 to 1:13:10
Explore Canada's efforts to reduce reliance on the U.S. and deepen ties with Europe.
“And, you know, this category that they're trying, that you mentioned with the EU, I mean, it's not even a legally defined term.”
Trump's Trade War Ramifications
1:13:10 to 1:14:15
Analyze Trump's comments on Canada and the potential economic consequences.
“Canada has been a terrible trade partner.”
The Ongoing Russia-Ukraine Conflict
1:14:15 to 1:15:47
Understand the latest developments in the Russia-Ukraine war and its global impact.
“We do this every week here on the Roundup.”
U.S. Sanctions and Tariff Authority
1:15:47 to 1:17:59
Discuss the implications of new sanctions and broad tariff powers for the U.S. administration.
“What changed in the last few days is Congress passing the Russia sanctions bill.”
Upcoming U.S.-China Summit
1:17:59 to 1:19:50
Preview the agenda for the upcoming meeting between Presidents Trump and Xi.
“Well, next week, all of this is going to be on the agenda, just like it is here on the Roundup.”
The AI Arms Race and Regulatory Concerns
1:19:50 to 1:21:55
Examine the urgent need for AI regulations amidst international competition.
“Is that the kind of summit that President Xi wants to have?”
Concerns over AI and Global Stability
1:21:55 to 1:24:00
Explore the risks associated with uncontrolled AI development and the need for agreements.
“and it's better if it's us, despite the dangers.”
Concerns Over Taiwan and U.S.-China Relations
1:24:00 to 1:26:26
The discussion explores the implications of U.S. foreign policy on Taiwan and its relationship with China.
“does without restraint that either country's AI could ultimately jump the boundaries, so to speak.”
China's Role in Middle East Stability
1:26:26 to 1:27:50
Analyzing China's leverage in the Middle East, particularly regarding Iran and its impact on U.S. interests.
“What do you think should be on top of the agenda for these two superpowers next week?”
Military Assistance to Latin America
1:27:50 to 1:29:55
A look into U.S. military aid being redirected to Latin America and its implications for regional stability.
“I mean, China has something that obviously the U.S.”
Military Assistance to Latin America
1:31:12 to 1:31:43
A look into U.S. military aid being redirected to Latin America and its implications for regional stability.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This message comes from NPR sponsor Charles Schwab with its original podcast on investing. Each week, you'll get thoughtful, in-depth analysis of both the stock and the bond markets. Listen today and subscribe at schwab.com slash oninvesting or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Todd, your host for this edition of the News Roundup. Just a quick heads up before we start the show. The news is rapidly changing, and things might have changed by the time you hear this episode. Stay up to date with all the latest by listening to your local NPR member station and by visiting npr.org.
0:42I'm Todd Zwilich, and it's the 1A Friday News Roundup. You know, it takes a lot to get nearly all of America's most powerful people and everyday people from coast to coast talking about the same emergency. We need to slow down. We need to make this technology carefully, and we need to make sure that our ability to understand it, our ability to control it keeps up with the pace at which the technology is happening. This week, the nation woke up to the potential danger of runaway tech. And if the people building artificial intelligence are to be believed, time is short. New warnings you heard there from Anthropics CEO Dario Amadei on CBS.
1:28AI is behaving in ways that their creators don't intend and can't control, and that we might be as little as six months or a year away from AI agents capable of acting on their own, taking over the internet, and pursuing their own goals, not necessarily our goals. Pair all of that with still more reports of AI agents showing deception, a willingness to ignore human instructions, a propensity for hacking, and a lot more things that we don't want them to do. Now Congress is demanding action, but it seems at the moment it's out of its depth. A number of tech titans agree with Dario Amadei. AI is developing too fast and it needs to be slowed down.
2:09Not everyone agrees. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg says market forces will enforce safety. And the president of the United States calls all of this concern a hoax. Just like he says, climate change is a hoax. Well, today on The Roundup, what's really driving the AI story this week, plus other top news, including findings on the staggering impact of the Iran war on the United States, the Fed's first rate hike in three years, and why a Russian oligarch close to Vladimir Putin paying for summon of Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding really, really matters for national security. In studio with me is Margaret Taleb.
2:48She's senior contributor for Axios and director. of the Syracuse University Institute for Democracy, Journalism, and Citizenship. Hi, Margaret. Hey, Todd. Great to have you here, Arthur. Delaney is here, senior reporter at HuffPost. Hi, Arthur. Hi. And on the line, Shelley Banjo, deputy editor-in-chief of Semaphore. Welcome back to the show, Shelley. Thanks so much. Happy to be here. Happy to have you. And as always, we want to hear from you this hour. You can email us your questions about the week's news, your comments as well, 1a at wamu.org. All right, gang, emergency alarms from the tech industry on their own product.
3:24This goes beyond data centers and deep fakes, as we all know. We heard the warnings from Dario Amadei of Anthropic. He wrote an essay warning about AI capabilities this week, in addition to going on a lot of TV shows. Arthur, how is Washington reacting to these warnings and what seems to be a plea from the industry, please stop us? I think it started with Bernie Sanders a few weeks ago saying, we need an immediate pause on advanced AI development. And then news continued to reinforce that political statement. We had the warnings from the anthropic researcher who quit. And then we had – this came on the heels of statements from OpenAI about their rogue agents and the hugging face attack.
4:16And an increasingly loud cry for help emanating from the people in charge of this technology. And Dario Amadei saying in his essay, despite all the progress, we still understand only a tiny fraction of what goes on inside these models. So, okay, people are taking this. They don't know how they work. Nobody does. Not even the people making them. And so, fine. You're driving the economy. The massive capital expenditures, the data centers going up all the country depends on this. So we're going to take what you're saying at face value and we're going to start making noise. This is lawmakers talking.
4:48They don't know what to do yet. But they're starting to kick some ideas around and it's definitely driven by the warnings from the AI tech titans who are all supposed to trust, who are all leaning on holding up GDP. Shelley Banjo, in addition to the hugging face hack we've talked about in detail on this show and is getting a lot of coverage and rightfully so across the landscape, OpenAI this week revealed six new incidents of its AI agents acting in concerning ways. What did they find? Yeah, OpenAI was trying to start establishing a regular cadence of this so that it doesn't become like, oh, breaking news, something happened, or we found something out.
5:30And, you know, they were letting that story sort of run away with reporters and whatnot who were breaking the news. And so now they're saying, let's do this in a systematic way where we're releasing every time something happens. We release it to the public. You can't accuse us of hiding anything. So there's a series of things, an agent inventing missing historical data without disclosing it or exposing certain things without authorization, using message boards to pass files between different training samples. And so the details weren't really the issue. It was more all these things are happening, you know, to Arthur's point, that we didn't intend to happen and that are concerning and that we are going to try to fix.
6:16And so this is a way to sort of show that and reveal that in a systematic way. And you talk about the unintended consequences of this tech. Here's Andrew Yang. Remember him? He's a tech entrepreneur. One point, a Democratic presidential candidate. Still goes on TV a lot. Comments on economy and politics. And he went on CNBC to describe a conversation with the head of an AI lab that he didn't name. And here's what Andrew Yang had to say. I met with the head of a lab yesterday who has this belief that the bots that got loose planted self-replicating code all over the Internet. So what happens now is that OpenAI and Anthropic have to create synthetic Internets to train their bots, which is going to take some time and money.
7:00Margaret, what I think Andrew Yang is saying there is that the hugging face hack resulted in replication across the Internet. And in other words, he seems to be suggesting that in this sense, the genie is already out of the bottle. Yeah. Yeah. What what he's saying is this problem is much worse than anybody really understands or is acting like is true, which, you know, raises the obvious question. Like, is Congress going to do anything? What power do they actually have here? I mean, they can pass bills if they can get their act together and can agree to something in the House and the Senate. But I think the question is, will those bills do what they are promised to do?
7:42So there are a number going on right now, actually, and they're quite bipartisan in their reach. The easy ones on the data center front, we saw legislation passed this week, the Ratepayer Protection Act. It's supposed to make sure that data centers don't shift costs, the electric costs, to regular consumers. But it's largely voluntary. It's up to states. There are massive loopholes in it. So is that going to be a big deal? It's like a messaging bill for the midterms because people don't like data centers. It's kind of a CYA political bill. On the real, like, generative AI front, though, I'm going to tell you about a few of them.
8:13There's maybe a half a dozen bills that either are out there now or are in the pipeline we're going to see soon. But I'm going to caveat all that by saying that House Speaker Mike Johnson has said, we can't rush this. And you've got lawmakers who are old and don't even know how to use AI, much less regulate it. But here are some of them. You've heard of the Frontier Act, or if you haven't, you will be. This is bipartisan. You've got lawmakers from California and Massachusetts and some other places kind of jumping in together. And it is looking at how to do audits and assessments. It would create an undersecretary of commerce for AI security.
8:49It would deal with risks around AI, and it would empower the commerce secretary to suspend AI development. The kill switch is another bill that you may have heard of. This is also bipartisan out of California and Texas and some other lawmakers. Kill switch so that you have the ability to turn it off if AIs escape. A lot of experts say that's not realistic. But in theory, if it worked the way it was supposed to, it would require the companies themselves to build in a system that allowed the killing of it. Well, all of this requires presidential leadership. Here's what President Trump has to say about the alarm bells from the industry on the safety of the AI they're building.
9:31I'm telling you it's all a hoax. I'm telling you it's all a hoax, says the president. Cecil says this, note that AI companies are ratcheting up stories of their power and tamping down expectations right ahead of their IPOs. These scary stories have been carefully timed. Arthur, Cecil's not alone in that suspicion. Other people are warning of what's called regulatory capture, that these big companies are now crying for regulation because it will solidify their place in the market as leaders. What about that? I think that's a fair gripe. One of the things they want, for example, is an antitrust exemption so that they could be free to coordinate among themselves the biggest AI companies.
10:13And typically that's an illegal thing for companies to do. But I believe you can set the most hysterical doomsday scenarios aside and also look past the possibility that they're just bragging and take the theoretical threat seriously. And that is what lawmakers are doing. That is where Bernie Sanders wound up, and I think he's pulling a lot of people along with him. Congress has tons of power to take over here. They won't. arguably the federal law already provides the administration tons of power to take legal action against these companies but they won't and trump won't because like i was saying earlier this makes the stock market go up and there's lots of bad economic stuff happening and this is a good thing for trump and that i think explains why he's very against doing anything to stop it shelly banjo we're going to go to a break in a moment but it strikes me that two things can be very true at the same time.
11:12It can be the case that tech titans want regulatory capture. They want regulations now while they're the leaders, while also being true that their product is out of control and potentially very dangerous. It's not either or. It could be both. I think that's exactly right. There's a real business case to be made for all this, and we can get into that a little bit later. But Arthur, I think Arthur is right there. Yeah, Arthur, a little bit more about where this goes without presidential leadership. Donald Trump and his tech advisors, David Sachs, they've said, not interested right now. That's right.
11:45And it's going to wind up unhelpful in the midterm election, potentially if we stay the course that we're currently on. We got this message from Tim who says, step one in regulating AI, stop building data centers. State and local officials can refuse to issue permits, waivers, variances, and other authorizations until we truly know how to contain AI. We've covered data centers and the fight over data centers in detail here on 1A. You can listen back to those shows on our website at the1a.org. We have to take a quick break now. Do stay with us. We'll be back with more in just a moment.
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13:01Inside it, every conversation, every mistake, every expectation. It is easy not to notice how heavy it is until someone asks if you want to put it down. Sometimes feeling better starts exactly like that. Better isn't one size fits all. Better is personal. It's therapy tailored to the individual to help lighten what you carry. Match with a therapist who truly understands. Visit BetterHelp.com slash NPR. Welcome back to the 1A podcast. The election is coming. Prices are high. And a new Congressional Budget Office report this week says the main reason for that relentless inflation is the war in Iran.
13:44The CBO says the conflict is to blame for 40 % of inflation during the second quarter of this year. It also estimates that inflation will continue to rise into next year. Of course, the war's most direct price shock is gas. Shelley Banjo, it's up 45 % since the start of the war. But now we have to talk about diesel because it powers the farm equipment. Millions of big rigs on the highways and a lot more, up 66%, over$6 a gallon,$6.50 a gallon. Nationally, Shelley Banjo, the internet is rife with truckers. hosting the gas tanks when they're filling up their tanks for at some times more than$1 ,000.
14:27What does this latest report tell us about the state of the economy and what matters to consumers now? Yeah, I mean, the diesel fuel prices, you know, hitting record highs, becoming this major shockwave, but it's really just an underlying issue about prices writ large. I mean, if the CBO is correct and the war was responsible or is responsible for more than one third of the increase in inflation this year, it sort of shines that light right back to the Trump administration, which has spent all week sort of moaning about the Fed rate hike decision saying, you know, why are you raising rates? Well, they're raising rates because inflation is high.
15:08Why is inflation high? Well, the war is responsible for that increase in inflation or at least a big part of it. And so, you know, everything is really tied together. I mean, that's what these economic forces are. And people are feeling it. They're feeling it at the pump. They're feeling it. And in the grocery store, they're feeling it everywhere. And you're leading up to a midterm election where the prices feel too high for people. And they want someone to do something about it. We're going to talk more about the war in Iran and how lawmakers are responding, how they're covering their own backs or CYA, as Margaret Tollip says, as the midterms approach.
15:47A does not mean back, by the way, in case you were wondering in that formulation. But inflation, look, Shelley Banjo mentioned it. Inflation always gets the intention of the Federal Reserve. This week, the Fed raised interest rates for the first time in three years, pushing up that benchmark rate a quarter point to 3.9 % on Wednesday. Plain fact is that inflation is too high and has been for too long. This summer's inflation readings do not tell me that underlying trends have meaningfully improved. That's the brand new Fed chair, Kevin Warsh, talking to reporters on Wednesday. Margaret Tolliv, one of the things is for sure, a rate hike was the opposite of what Donald Trump wanted, indeed demanded, of this new Fed chair.
16:32He spent years attacking the Fed and its previous chairman, even threatening to prosecute Jerome Powell if he didn't lower rates. How has Trump responded to this announcement this time? It's really interesting. He's furious with the Fed. He's going after the Fed as a body, accusing them of acting politically, basically trying to do him in or trying to help Democrats or being politicized. And he is going out on social media saying interest rates in the U.S. should be 1 percent or less. And the U.S. has the best credit in the world and all this stuff. But he has actually worked very hard to exempt Kevin Warsh, his handpicked Fed chair, for the blame from this and even went so far as to assert that he reached out to Warsh beforehand and said, you might as well just vote with the rest of your board because it's not going to make any difference.
17:21Which is interesting because the White House had spent days insisting that, you know, the president wasn't trying to put his thumb on the scale and Kevin Warsh could act independently. So there's a lot of mixed signals going on here. But the president is like he's furious about this because in the near term, and I don't just mean between now and the midterms, probably for the next year, this is going to feel bad for Americans. It's going to mean that borrowing costs are higher. It's going to mean that mortgage rates, which are already like at 7 percent, are going to be worse, not better, that homes aren't going to sell, that homes aren't going to be built, that it will just like depress the – Credit card interest.
17:57All of it. Absolutely credit card interest. And so, but the Fed's thinking, including Warsh, is that this is needed so that inflation doesn't keep spiraling out of control. The Fed is trying to bring it back towards a 2 % inflationary growth target and says, we can't do it unless we raise interest rates. I mean, it's the Fed's entire job is to do this and then also try to not do it so much that unemployment goes up. But if you listened to Kevin Warsh carefully during the confirmation process and before, he always criticized where rates were. And he said there could be room to lower rates if the Fed can reduce the size of its balance sheet, which was measures taken after the financial crisis.
18:38He never said he would lower rates, but Trump talked himself into believing that that is what Kevin Warsh was telling him. And it's embarrassing now that that's not what's happening. And I think that's the reason the president is blaming the rest of the Federal Reserve Board and not the guy he just picked. But this was an entirely predictable outcome. I will submit also that Kevin Warsh is the son-in-law of one of Trump's close buddies. That might have – they have a personal relationship. I think Trump will get tired of Kevin Warsh pretty soon. He's on a short leash. Anyone who agrees to be appointed by Donald Trump or something runs a strong risk of becoming one of Donald Trump's enemies.
19:17All right. More consequences of the war in Iran. They are manifold. On Monday, the Defense Department's lead inspector general released a report revealing that Iranian strikes have damaged hundreds of buildings or American strikes in Iran. And sorry, Iranian strikes on American bases have damaged hundreds of buildings. Structures at U.S. bases across the Middle East, more than 50 ,000 service members have been deployed to support the war. 18 have died. 824 have been wounded, according to the Department of Defense's numbers that we know about. There's a lot more in the pages of this report, Arthur.
19:53What else stood out for you? I think we were familiar with the dwindling munitions, the damage to bases, the injuries and fatalities. What struck me the most about this was that it said there's a mission statement for Operation Epic Fury that's classified. We don't even know what's the mission here. And then in response to that revelation, the Department of Defense told the inspector general, well, we're always refining what the mission is. So the objective here, they won't tell us. The mission statement that informs the public and the world about why the United States went to war in Iran is classified.
20:32That's right. Of course, Secretary Hegseth and Donald Trump have all said what they're trying to do, stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, degrade their missiles. But there's also an objective of this mission that's classified. And they said when they were confronted with the fact that this would be in the report, they said, well, we're also always changing it. We got this email from Alexis who says, can you please talk about Representative Thomas Massey's impeachment attempt of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, his motivations and potential impact after the recess? Why, yes, Alexis, we can talk about that.
21:07Let's go. the administration's biggest cheerleader for the war, aside from the president himself, is the defense secretary, Pete Hexeth. He's faced louder and louder calls for accountability, even his resignation from Democrats and more than a few Republicans in Congress. And Hexeth was about to face an impeachment vote on the floor of the House this week. That is until Speaker Mike Johnson cut the work period short, sent the House home again until after the midterm elections and Republican Representative Thomas Massey was behind that push for impeachment. We are the majority. We may only be the majority for six more weeks.
21:45Why would we be canceling days when the country is burning, the inflation is rampant? There are things we could do here. Why would we cancel our own majority? I can't figure that out. But I did figure out why we canceled tomorrow. Tomorrow would be the vote on impeaching Secretary of Defense Peter Brian Hegseth. Peter Brian Hegseth. Shelley, I don't know your middle name, Banjo. Massey also said that Congress was cut short to avoid another vote on his Epstein Files legislation. But what about this? Why did Mike Johnson send the House home early? And I guess the important corollary is, did Massey have the votes to impeach the Secretary of Defense?
22:35Yeah, I mean, he claims to have them or at least wanting to force the issue. You know, he wants to hold people account, make them, you know, make them vote in public in the weeks before the election and hold and see, you know, take a tally who in Congress is for this war and who is not in the weeks that clearly matter. Johnson said, I don't really want to do that. I mean, to his credit, you know, he called it a publicity stunt, which it is. He said it's not going to pass, you know, these things, it's not going to happen in reality. It's a waste of time when members could be out in their districts campaigning and governing and whatnot.
23:14All those things can be true, but also it evades this, it evades really this holding folks to account. And Massey filed this as a privileged measure, saying, I'm going to use my privilege to force this vote so that we can see what other members think and feel and vote their conscience there. And he brings up a very good point. This is a few remaining days left where they could be in the majority. They didn't lose the election. They have this sort of moment right now. So why are you sending them home instead of governing in D.C.? Meanwhile, there are more signals that Republicans think the Iran war, Pete Hegseth's war and Donald Trump's war could be a drag on them in the midterms.
24:00Another vote in the House to force an end to the war this week. This is the third time this has passed. We've talked about this story before, but this time seven House Republicans voted to join Democrats in ending Donald Trump's war. Now, Margaret, this is mostly a symbolic vote. It doesn't actually bring the troops home. But how significant is this political pressure for the Trump administration? What does it say about how Republicans are viewing this war and their own prospects? Yeah, I mean, it's pressure on the Trump administration because it's a gain. It's a growing momentum. But what it really signals is look at some of these Republicans.
24:34A couple of them are leaving office. We mentioned Thomas Massey, Nancy Mace is another. But there are also lawmakers who are running for reelection and including several from the state of Iowa, which we have long thought of as a red state. It has been a red state for a long time. Now you're looking at, you know, Senate and frontline races that are – and governors are – like races in Iowa that are way too close for comfort for the Republican Party. And so this like block now of seven reflects real Republican both personally being over it and understanding that a lot of their constituents really do not want this and that they need to take this stance to preserve themselves in the midterms.
25:16Well, people know this is what's pushing up prices. It's really simple. And it probably was an obvious outcome of the war whose objective can't be explained. And so it's awful politics for Donald Trump, who got elected mainly on affordability. And there are Republicans in the House, apparently, who are happy to have the opportunity to vote against him a couple of weeks before the election. They probably like that. Of course, that's useful for those ones. I think for a lot of others, they would rather not be in that position because they've got voters at home who don't like that and they don't want to make Trump himself mad at them.
25:50Well, we've talked about the war. We've talked about inflation and AI and how they could all impact the midterms. Let's talk about news on the election itself, the ballots, the rule of law. President Trump has made mail-in voting a major part of his campaign to sow doubt in the process of voting in this country. But on Monday, the Supreme Court blocked his executive order to change how mail-in ballots are sent to voters all across the country. Trump went after the Supreme Court, who ruled against the order on social media, saying they were, quote, not the people I interviewed. Arthur, that was a rather telling thing for the president to say.
26:29But what does all this mean for mail-in voting in the midterms? What can voters expect now from the voting process? Well, it should be normal. You should not have any disruption to your regular mail-in ballot casting process like you did in the last election. It's that simple. That doesn't mean it's the end of the Trump administration's broader effort to mess with the midterm elections. This is clearly like a major ongoing project over there, but the mail-in ballot part is over. The Supreme Court said no, and we actually do have a pattern of the Trump administration abiding Supreme Court rulings.
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27:04Well, that leads us to another facet of the president's attempts to seize control of voting and to undermine confidence in the results. On Tuesday, the attorney general, Todd Blanche, told reporters to stand by for what he called a big announcement from Ryan Raybould, who's the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Texas, about non-citizen voting. Over the past week, six defendants by my office were indicted and another charged by criminal complaint. Arrests have already been executed. As of this morning, we got the last individual. The big announcement, Margaret Tala, six individuals, says the U.S.
27:41attorney. What is the administration trying to do here? To amp up the idea that there are rampant problems with non-citizens voting, to give a predicate for efforts to make it harder for people that the administration doesn't want to turn out to turn out to vote, and also to create a predicate down the line for folks like the Postal Service to get involved and also to legitimize in his base's eyes all of what he's trying to do overall and also to create chaos and confusion so that people don't trust election results if they're not the election results that he would like. It's a multi-pronged effort.
28:21We've been following that effort and covering that effort in detail here on 1A, especially on Mondays on If You Can Keep It, And we will continue to do so the president's ongoing campaign to undermine the midterms in this country. One more thing before we go to a break that I want to make sure we cover. Bad polling numbers this week for the president and Republicans. One new poll from New York Times, Siena University. Democrats hold a nine-point advantage over Republicans on the generic ballot. A big reason why, according to the poll, Arthur mentioned it, the public has lost trust in the president's handling of the economy.
28:55But then there's this. Even some Republican lawmakers are looking at Trump's numbers and getting very worried. I want you to listen to Florida House Representative Maria Elvira Salazar in her latest ad. Keep in mind, this is Florida. Mr. President, some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone too far. In July, 50 percent of the 50 ,000 people that were detained had no criminal record. Be careful what your advisers are telling you about immigration policy. The same Hispanics who helped you get to the White House in 2024 feel betrayed today. Arthur Delaney, why would a Republican in a red district, in a red state, who voted for massive increases in ICE funding, say all that in an ad?
29:37Well, part of it in Florida is they're deporting Cubans and Venezuelans who supported. The president did not expect to be the targets of his deportation regime, but this is happening in other places starting now. There's also an ad by another Republican who said it was touting her work with Democrats reaching across the aisle. These are in recent years unheard of statements from a Republican running for Congress. And it just shows you how bad the polls are looking. What can we surmise from what Maria Salazar might be seeing in her own district about why she would cut an ad like that? Well, something that is not obvious to those looking in.
30:11It's bad polling from within her campaign, I suspect, because that's a red district. That's a likely or lean red district. In a red state on Donald Trump's signature issue, a remarkable ad from a Republican lawmaker. We'll stick with it. We'll be right back.
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31:51This week, an investigation from ProPublica found that a man named Umar Kremlev personally attended Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding in the Bahamas in May. It was a dream wedding in many ways. Blue water, white beaches, good-looking people, if I can say that. Kremlev also secretly paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to bankroll part of that celebration. That's remarkable because Kremlev is a Russian oligarch and a close associate of Vladimir Putin. In an Instagram post on Monday, Don Jr.'s wife, Bettina Trump, confirmed this story. She said Kremlev covered two after parties, not the ceremony itself.
32:37She called it, quote, an extraordinarily generous gift. ProPublica said Kremlev paid to reserve a private island for the party and a firework show launched from a nearby barge. Democrats in the House have already opened an investigation. Here's Chuck Schumer, minority leader of New York. He spoke on the Senate floor on Tuesday. Have you ever heard anything like this? So corrupt, so venal, so endangering our national security? I don't know the answers to those questions, Margaret, but why would a Russian oligarch spend that kind of money on Don Jr.'s wedding? And why are Schumer and others calling it dangerous?
33:15Yep. I think those are the right questions to be asking. I mean, the president's son, Don Jr., has said that these two men are friends, that Kremlev is his friend, and that they never discuss business or politics, by extension, that they were introduced through a mutual hunting buddy and that they both love boxing. In fact, Kremlev leads a boxing organization that is quite controversial. It's funded by Gazprom. And not only is he close to Putin, but he's just been, I don't think knighted is the right word, but he just got tapped with the order of something. Order of friendship. Yeah. Very good.
33:53Russian honors from Putin. Very good. So So the concerns like are obvious. The concerns are foreign influence. This is a pathway into the White House. And the concerns are corruption. Could it be feeding Trump family business interests that have nothing to do, for better or worse, with the American people? So these are the concerns. And that's what investigations would look at, particularly if Democrats regain control in November. But what is sort of the extra irony or cherry on top is how hard Don Jr., President Trump himself, the Trump political circle went after Joe Biden by proxy by raising all sorts of accusations, many unfounded, about appearances and relationships between Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, and, you know, a business interest in Ukraine.
34:50And now to have a completely different, like, there's nothing wrong with this. We're just friends. It's quite striking. Shelley Banjo, our colleague, Julia Yaffe, who writes for Puck and is a Russian speaker and a Russian-American, said on social media, I thought it was very poignant. She speaks Russian, of course. And she said, in Russian, we don't say there's no such thing as a free lunch. We say the only free cheese is in a mousetrap. And I thought that spoke volumes. Don Jr. and the family, though, Shelley Banjo, seem to be doing very little to hide this. I mean, Kremlev, I mean, it was a secret, but he posed in a wedding photo.
35:28Bettina confirmed it. What does it say now that the president's son barely tried to hide a relationship like this? Yeah, this is a common deflection strategy we've seen from the Trump administration, which is we have nothing to hide. If it's all out in the open, then we're doing nothing wrong, right? If it was something wrong, then we would try to hide it. And so, you know, let's put it all out, flood the zone. There's nothing to see here. You've sort of seen this time and time. And again, you know, we're normalizing this issue by, you know, not hiding and saying, hey, this is nothing wrong. You know, but it does, to the earlier points, I mean, it fits into this bigger picture pattern around this political business connections between the Russian business folks and the Trump family using, you know, informal social channels that leads to commercial access, the sort of normalized entanglement where we're not even like, we no longer even have the premise of avoiding contact with the Putin allies here.
36:29We're just going full force to it. Arthur. The ProPublica interviewed other guests at the wedding and they were like, we kept saying, who's those Russian guys? Standing in the corner. Yeah. Why is there a bunch of Russian guys here? They didn't know them. So that was funny. And apparently Kremlev doesn't really speak much English. One of his associates said he can't carry on a conversation in English. That's right. And like Margaret was saying, I spent years reading the depositions of the people who had dinner with Hunter Biden. And they're like, well, which Chinese guy was there? Which Ukrainian guy was there?
37:02And this is so comically that, but times a thousand. We're going to talk more about the ways President Trump and his advisors are wielding foreign policy for personal gain, including their involvement with foreign oligarchs and what it all means for our democracy. That's on Monday during our politics series. If you can keep it, do tune in. And in the meantime, what questions do you have about the Trump administration's approach to foreign policy and what concerns do you have about the corruption that we're talking about? You can leave us a message, 855-236-1A1A, or you can find us on the 1A VoxPop app.
37:40Well, we've talked about it in detail. The economy is dragging on Republicans in these upcoming midterms, at least according to the polls. And so is the president's signature issue, immigration. This you might not have expected at this time two years ago. The Trump administration continues to push hard, not just on rounding up undocumented and documented people for deportation, but also curbing who can even enter the country. On Monday, a federal judge halted a Trump administration plan to cap visas for international students and cultural exchange fellows in the United States at four years and visas for journalists at just 240 days.
38:19It was all supposed to go into effect on Tuesday, affecting more than 2 million people. Judge blocked it. Margaret, why did the judge move to block the proposed cap from taking effect now? So this is Judge Saylor out of Massachusetts. And I think it's important to note this is a preliminary injunction. This doesn't necessarily block this forever, but it does stave it off for now. That means the legal challenges can go forward. And what the judge said is that the Trump administration, the U.S. government, had not sufficiently explained why the system needs to be replaced and hadn't sufficiently thought through other alternatives that might be less restrictive.
39:01Well, several states also filed lawsuits to stop a separate federal regulation that would allow immigration authorities to deny green cards to immigrants who legally use public benefits. Legally, in other words, benefits that they already pay taxes to access. Arthur, where do these suits stand right now? What are they arguing? Well, that's a tug of war over the public charge rule, which has been going on for years and years. and under the rule you're not allowed to get only certain cash benefits and the definition excludes the ones that people actually use the most, like food stamps or SNAP. And the problem with this rule was that they said, we will allow states to use other criteria and they just didn't say which criteria.
39:44And so as Cato Institute's experts said, they got rid of the existing rule and replaced it with nothing. So it sounds like a little bit of slapdash governance, which is, of course, a hallmark of Trumpism. Meanwhile, was I correct that these are legal documented immigrants? So these are benefits they are paying for. They pay taxes. Well, if you're working, of course, you pay taxes. But this isn't like unemployment insurance where you specifically had a dedicated tax and are getting money as a result of it. It's not an entitlement in that sense. Many cases in play. We continue to follow them here on the show.
40:18Well, back on Capitol Hill, this was important. This was an issue that affects only half of the population of America. It gets almost no research support, not zero, but close to zero in the grand scheme of things. Congress held its first ever, that's remarkable, first ever hearing on menopause led by New York Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and Republican Florida Senator Rick Scott. They want the government to study doctor training for menopause and funding for menopause research such as it is. The issue is tied to an estimated$5 billion a year in lost work. Here's Senator Gillibrand. For generations, women have been told to suffer in silence.
40:59I'm done with silence. Margaret Taleb, what made menopause the issue both parties agreed needed a hearing now after all this time? Of voting and money?
41:12as the menopause representative on this panel, I will say that there have actually been a lot of, there has actually been a lot of quiet movement in this direction before this became a political issue, right before the midterms. The president's previous first FDA guy has championed the use of hormone treatment for women in menopause after there was faulty studies that for years led women to believe that they were at greater risk for cancer when it turned out that they really weren't, and it was a bad study. And so you've got this demographic trend of tens of millions of women that this impacts, and they have a lot of buying power, and there's a lot of medicine and economic benefits to dealing with these issues.
42:00That's Margaret Tolliv of Axioshelli, Banjo of Semaphore is here, and Arthur Delaney of HuffPost. I'm Todd Zwillick. This is 1A. Shelly Banjo, it is remarkable. Yes, I know the election's coming. Yes, I know women vote more than men. That's not new. This is more than half the population, either having gone through menopause, going through it currently, or it's in their future, I suppose. I did look, the federal research funding via NIH is in the low tens of millions or mid tens of millions. That's nothing in a world of billions. It's nothing. Yeah, I mean, women's research and funding toward most women's diseases are lower than, you know, others.
42:45We sort of saw this with pregnancy as well. I think there's very little research. There's very little funding around pregnancy in most women's, and menopause is even less than that. You're also starting to see a groundswell of business and financial interest going into this, which is turning into a big business market. Lots of apps and others that are launching to help this sort of growing market here. And so I think there is a new sort of groundswell of focus on this area that is also hitting Washington. All right. Well, if there's money to be made, industry will follow and maybe the government will as well.
43:22We just wanted to give some light and voice to that because it was just so remarkable that it was the first ever hearing of its kind. But while we're on Capitol Hill, let's talk about health of another kind. Kentucky Republican Senator Mitch McConnell, the former majority leader, back on the Senate floor this week after a three-month absence. That was after a bad fall in June that left him unconscious, sent him to the hospital and rehab for a long stay. He's 84 years old. He's not seeking reelection. Arthur, can you describe the scene of McConnell's return, how he looked, what he was saying to people, if anything, what people are saying about aging lawmakers, their ability to do their jobs?
44:02I know there was lots of chatter in the hallways as McConnell rolled by. First of all, a lot of people were saying, well, Mitch McConnell's clearly dead and they're hiding it. And I said that's a conspiracy theory. And look, I told you all. Anyway, this was very weird. It started with TMZ and other reporters staking out his house near the Capitol where he was wheeled into a car and smiling a big smile while they said, Mitch, Mitch, how are you? Are you ready to vote? And he just didn't seem to acknowledge it. And then he came into the Ohio Clock Corridor, which is a main area just off the Senate floor, and he made remarks that seemed to have been prepared.
44:41Now, he wasn't a chatty Cathy before, but he just said, you know, I've been dodging your questions all these years, but I'm here to help with the farm bill. Okay. And then he couldn't – he voted no on the farm bill in the Agriculture Committee. And then everyone had to say Senator McConnell. They had to ask him to do it again, and people were reaching for him and saying, oh, yes. The senator from the Bluegrass State does not vote against the farm bill. Yeah, so it's good to see that he's alive, but I don't think he's doing that great. Guys, I want to thank you for being part of this. Margaret Taulev of Axios Arthur Delaney for OffPost.
45:17Shelley Banjo. Shelley, thank you from there at Semaphore. We appreciate you. All right, stay with us. We're just getting started with the week's headlines. And when we come back after the break, we'll have a new panel and all the news from around the globe.
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46:18Yemeni Houthis hit the oil infrastructure in Saudi Arabia. And what will happen when President Xi comes to Washington? Abigail Hausloener, U.S. Middle East foreign affairs correspondent at the Financial Times. Hi, Abby. Hello. Joyce Karam is here, editor-in-chief of All Monitor. Always good to see you, Joyce. Great to see you, Todd. Great to have you. And Vera Bergen-Groon is with us, national security reporter at The Wall Street Journal. Vera, great to have you. Thanks so much. All right. Let's start with the latest front in the Iran war, this time not in Iran, but between Saudi Arabia and Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen.
46:55A decade-long war between Saudi Arabia and the Yemeni Houthis militias had mostly quieted under a 2022 ceasefire. Then, after the start of the war in February, Houthis have hovered at the fringes, sometimes attacking Israel, sometimes harassing ships in the Red Sea. And now the evolution into a new theater of the Iran war is apparent. The Houthis have seized the Red Sea port of Mocha, several islands inside the Bab al-Mandab Strait, a key shipping passage. And this week, their advance continued along the Red Sea coast into Saudi territory. The United Nations estimates more than 125 ,000 people in Yemen have been displaced by the violence just this month, with many people living in makeshift camps and tents.
47:46We fled from the war and took nothing with us. We didn't even bring the children's clothes. We have no flour. The children are hungry. We have no food. Joyce, Houthi control is stronger than ever over one of the world's most important shipping corridors. What's the latest in this expanding story here? Absolutely, Todd. This is huge. This is the largest Houthi offensive since the start of the Yemen civil war in 2014. And what we've seen happening, it's not, I mean, it was completely foreseeable. So they've been building up their capacity. They've hugely benefited last year from infighting between Saudi Arabia and the United Emirates inside Yemen.
48:31So UAE said, OK, we have nothing to do with that. The southern separatists will withdraw from key areas. And now we're seeing the Houthis just dominate the Red Coast areas in Yemen. Why this is important? Because of, obviously, Bebel Mentib. But it also speaks to the human power capacity and the military capacity that the Houthis have built over time. The Saudis caught off guard here? Not completely. But I think how swift and big the advance is has surprised the Saudis. And their oil routes are now completely cut between the Hormuz and Bab al-Manda. And we're going to talk more about those oil routes being cut, the implications not just for the region, but for the world, including energy, supplies and prices here in the United States.
49:24This week, Riyadh in Saudi Arabia claimed the Houthis had fired a drone at the holy city of Mecca. but the missile was destroyed by Saudi defense forces, according to the Saudis. The Saudis say any attack on Mecca is a red line. Houthis deny that claim. Our operations target their oil facilities and military bases, far from the holy places. Well, the United States labeled the Houthis a foreign terrorist entity in March of 2025. On Monday, the vice president, J.D. Vance, confirmed that the U.S. was now in direct contact with the Houthis, again, who are branded a foreign terrorist entity by the United States.
50:03So far, the administration has refused to get directly involved in this conflict, despite requests from our longtime ally, Saudi Arabia. Vera, why is President Trump refusing to come to Saudi Arabia's aid here? They have asked. Right. So, I mean, to an extent, Trump isn't really refusing to help Saudi Arabia. You know, they're still providing them with intelligence and targeting assistance and all of that. But he's really refusing to directly commit the U.S. military to yet another front, given how heavily entrenched and engaged they are against Iran. He just doesn't want to open yet another front.
50:38He wants to keep these forces focused on Iran, on Hormuz. And he's essentially saying, you know, we'll help you defend yourselves, but we're just not going to fight another front for you here. What about the claim that the Houthis fired a missile at Mecca? This seems designed for a certain audience, the Muslim world. There is a Mecca defense pact. It involves Pakistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia. I guess we can't confirm from this table whether that missile strike is true or not. Abby, what does it suggest that Saudi Arabia is trying to find other ways to draw allies to its side here? Well, again, yeah, right.
51:15Without knowing conclusively that the Houthis actually did fire that drone or did mean to attack Mecca, it's hard to say. But, you know, as you mentioned, there's this defense alliance and a fairly recent one as of this year that Saudi Arabia signed with Pakistan, specifically a mutual defense alliance and now with Turkey. And so, yeah, you know, sorry, the Saudis asked the Trump administration, you know, for assistance here, for more assistance in fighting back against the Houthis. They haven't received that. And so now we see them turning to their other regional allies. And the Pakistanis have in turn sought to put some pressure on Iran saying, could you please try to pull back the Houthis, restrain them a bit, or we might have to come to Saudi Arabia's assistance.
52:06Joyce, Iran doesn't directly control the Houthis, but they have a great deal of influence, of course. What does all of this have to say about Iran's ability to open new fronts in this war, in this asymmetric war as they look for leverage in the Persian Gulf? This is a very good week for Iran. Let's just put it that way. They have their darkest horse in the region. The Houthis were able not only to get to Bab al-Manda, but they were able to control, expand their control in Yemen. And they're doing so while brokering deals. There was a U.S. Houthi meeting in Oman over the weekend. They're not targeting Israeli ships at this time.
52:46So they're working their arrangements within Yemen. The problem for Saudi Arabia and Trump at this time is there is a lot of friction between both. You know, the Saudis did not come to help Trump when he wanted to do the Hormuz opening operation. If you remember the Washington Post story at the time that they didn't want their bases to be used. There's been some Saudi investments that withdrawn from the U.S. So not all is good on the Washington-Riyadh situation. And what is happening really, Todd, the problem here for the U.S. is this does shake the security posture for the U.S. in the region.
53:29Now, not only you lost Hormuz, but this is the other waterway that you're having to defend or work an arrangement with the Houthis to make sure that oil markets don't completely crumble. Meanwhile, the war and its effect on Iran back in Iran, a U.N. report released this week found reasonable grounds to believe that the United States committed war crimes in that school attack on Manab in southern Iran near the beginning of the war. It's now been nearly seven months since the Iran war began. And now, with this conflict escalating in the background on Wednesday, President Trump said the United States is hopefully, his words, toward the end of its nearly seven-month war with Iran.
54:09Here he is speaking in North Carolina on Wednesday evening. That war is going to end very soon. Watch. You just watch. Trump was right about everything. You watch. They're getting decimated. And they want to make a deal so badly. They call. We want to make a deal. We want to make it. And they're not ready yet, I don't think. But we could have a deal anytime we want. There's been no confirmation from Tehran that direct negotiations with Washington are taking place at all right now. Vera, what about it? Just the day before Iran doubled down on its demands with the United States, do they have any incentive to negotiate right now?
54:48It appears that escalation is what's in the offing. more ships struck in the Persian Gulf, an escalation with the Houthis. What's your read on the overall posture between Iran and the United States and the other actors in the region right now? I mean, when it comes to Iran, as we've just been discussing, they do seem to be having some competing incentives. You know, obviously waiting and not, you know, not having an incentive to negotiate. I mean, that's really exploit this political pressure on Trump, on the Trump administration ahead of the midterms. You know, we hear Trump constantly explain this away, but, you know, you just can't after seven months of war.
55:24It's really hitting people. It's very unpopular in the United States. People are really seeing the impact. So, you know, I think they have an incentive to kind of let it drag on for that reason on the political front. But obviously, economically, Iran has strong reasons not to wait and to kind of take what they can get if there is an opening to really negotiate something. So it's really hard to tell these days because, again, because you kind of hear such conflicting messages coming out. But I think those two purposes are kind of at crossroads. Abby, we've seen the satellite images of Saudi oil infrastructure, pipeline infrastructure in cinders, essentially.
56:00now, the alternative routes that were supposed to send oil toward the Red Sea instead of through the Strait of Hormuz. What does all this mean now as markets and consumers and truckers and politicians watch the price of oil and the price of diesel? The Saudis are really crunched, is the short answer. You know, as Joyce mentioned, the Strait of Hormuz obviously was the main export route for Saudi Arabia and its other Gulf neighbors. That has, you know, effectively been shut or very, very limited by the Iran war with no end in sight. And then the Bab el-Mendeb Strait being closed, that's another major route.
56:40Overland pipelines have been attacked, and they certainly weren't transporting enough oil. We've seen, you know, the Saudis have now told, you know, the Europeans, for example, not to expect crude next month from Saudi Arabia. Joyce, as we look across the world, we have just a moment. Is there any downward pressure on oil prices anywhere right now? Or is it all upward pressure? I mean, it looks, I'm not an oil expert, but it looks like upward pressure going from here. And it's not just oil, I would say with Babel Manda, it's coffee too. We get most of our coffees from Ethiopia, from Yemen. We used to get more before the war.
57:18So it's really problematic. Well, we talk about American interests in Yemen, in Saudi Arabia, with the Houthis, in Iran and around the Persian Gulf, and also with Israel. This week, the Trump administration struck a deal with Israel for a$2.8 billion arms package. The Washington Post reports that that sale includes 2 ,000-pound bombs. This is the largest single sale of that controversial munition because they're so big in recent years. Congress has been informally notified about this pending deal, most of which is to be paid for with foreign military financing. Abby, what should we know about the sale, the type of weapons, the financing, the details?
58:03Right. So, Todd, as you mentioned, these 2 ,000-pound bombs are an extremely controversial weapon. These are what we know, as what we refer to as the bunker busting bombs. Israel has been heavily criticized for using these in densely populated Gaza, you know, where just the blast radius of these things can level in a densely packed city block, essentially. So a lot of civilian casualties, they've used them in Lebanon as well. And now amid all of this really heavy criticism globally of Israel's conduct in Gaza, in Lebanon, in the region, the U.S. is sending in this really kind of historic shipment, or has agreed to, of 40 ,000 of these weapons.
58:48What do you make of the timing of this, given the increasingly complicated relationship between Benjamin Netanyahu and the Trump administration, specifically the president himself? They have been at odds over Lebanon. They have been at odds at times over Gaza. Both of them have elections coming up, and yet at least according to the Trump administration, the heavy weapons still flow, Abby? You know, it's really interesting because I think the Trump administration is trying to walk a fine line here. They are under pressure from a public ahead of midterms that, you know, does not like the Iran war, where public opinion of Israel has really dropped, including we're seeing it in the Republican Party.
59:27At the same time, you know, a majority of Republicans still support, strong U.S. backing of Israel. So it seems like they're trying to kind of thread this needle, which may be difficult to do, signaling, you know, we're still giving Israel all this support. You know, Israel gets something like$3.8 billion U.S. tax dollars in support, military assistance every year. And at the same time, we heard the vice president, J.D. Vance, just earlier this week saying, we've heard him say this before, that U.S. policy towards Israel is not going to be subservient. Let's hear from the vice president himself.
1:00:05You see a similar pushback when the president makes the argument that he's made about NATO, which is, yes, obviously a lot of important relationships, a lot of important partnerships in NATO, but that doesn't mean that we're going to completely make our European foreign policy subservient to NATO in the same way that we cannot let our Middle Eastern foreign policy be subservient to the state of Israel. That's a loaded word, subservient, Vera Bergen-Gruen. What do these comments reveal about what we've described as the increasingly complicated relationship between Netanyahu, the Trump administration, and more broadly, Israel and the United States?
1:00:43Yeah, I mean, Vance has been way out front over here. You know, he's always he's been the senior administration official who speaks most directly about this. Drawing this distinction and is really like, you know, become more direct as the months have gone on between American interests and Israeli interests. I mean, he's not saying that Israel isn't a critical partner or a really important ally. He never said something like that. But increasingly, you know, there's this gap between what Trump wants out of this war and what Netanyahu wants out of this war. And so Vance has been really sharpening the language here and saying Netanyahu does not get to set America's regional strategy or the end goal, which are the two things where they're increasingly diverging, while obviously not going as far as really showing a lot of daylight between these two allies.
1:01:26That sounds to me, Vera, like a criticism of the president himself. Netanyahu, we've seen report after report after report, president after president was lobbied by Benjamin Netanyahu to launch this war. They all refused until Netanyahu brought the pitch to Trump. Then things changed. Right. I mean, it's been pretty interesting. Trump himself has changed his language a little bit. Right. So I'm not sure it is necessarily exactly a criticism of Trump as much as, you know, he's just way more direct than Trump. But, you know, I think one of the things that really sticks to my mind is when Rubio in the early weeks of the war kind of basically said on Capitol Hill that the U.S.
1:02:05had to go into Iran because Israel was going to go anyway. Right. Which was kind of a huge faux pas and created a lot of headaches for them. But again, like it's been these things that are kind of pretty obvious to them. And Vance is the only one who puts it in as explicit language. So we've talked about this a lot on the roundup. Elections are coming in Israel. Netanyahu is up and he's in trouble. We know that in October. We have midterms in this country. Of course, the focus is going to shift to 2028. And J.D. Vance and many others are in that conversation. And both parties are shifting in their commitments to Israel.
1:02:39We listened to J.D. Vance there, Joyce. Certainly, there's a whole conversation about Democrats and their shifting attitudes, really the building opposition to Israel on so many fronts. Do you think we're looking at a real change in U.S.-Israel relations for the long term here? So the real change in the U.S. public opinion toward Israel, latest Gallup poll, 60 percent of Americans view Israel unfavorably. Only 32 percent view Israel favorably. That's a sea change for what was once closest American ally in the region. So but I just want to caveat that. The problem is you're not seeing sea change with the administration toward Israel.
1:03:21Yes, there is the criticism from J.D. Vance. Trump is trying to keep distance from Netanyahu ahead of the elections. But Israel is still getting substantial military support, is still getting substantial intelligence support. They're still getting a blank check when they're bombing Gaza. There were strikes just this week. They're still occupying Lebanon. So when it comes to policy, when it comes to pressuring Israel to change, to compromise, to give concessions, for example, to the Lebanese army or on the table with Hamas in Gaza, we're not seeing that. Abby? Yeah, I can tell you, for one thing, that the Israeli government and the pro-Israel lobby is very concerned about the potential for this relationship changing.
1:04:05You know, as Joyce mentioned, certainly if Democrats take control of the House and Senate or just one of those, we could see some real pushback against what has been this very consistent bilateral U.S. support for Israel over decades. And we saw evidence of that concern just late last month. I was at the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting in Las Vegas. And there it was speaker after speaker warning if the Democrats take control, the U.S.-Israel relationship is going to change as we know it. All right. Well, let's talk about another front for Israel and for Iran, as we often do. And Joyce just mentioned it.
1:04:52It's Lebanon. On Thursday, European and Arab military chiefs met in Paris, this time to assess the capabilities of the Lebanese Armed Forces, the LAF, and the looming end of a United Nations peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon. Israel and Lebanon agreed to U.S.-mediated framework deal in June, but the agreement didn't force Israel to withdraw from the large area of southern Lebanon it now occupies. It didn't seem to change too much on the ground. Joyce, what came out of this meeting? The French meeting is an effort from Paris to say, you know, we support the Lebanese army. We are supporting the state of Lebanon, but France doesn't hold the courts when it comes to a renewing UNIFIL mandate that both Lebanon and France want.
1:05:38Now, UNIFIL is the UN peacekeeping force. Deployed in Lebanon since the late 70s. And what Israel is looking for is a more coercive force that could go in with the Lebanese army to dismantle Hezbollah. I was just in Lebanon. The picture is not good. I mean, this is the country internally is falling apart. The centralized government does not have much power. The Lebanese army, despite attempts to go into Ali Tahir village to dismantle Hezbollah, was not allowed by Hezbollah. So this is a government that's fighting both Hezbollah and Israel. And they're in a tough spot. I think the administration is trying to back them up.
1:06:19But with the UNIFIL deadline looming, with Israel not playing game before the election, we're looking at more of a stalemate in Beirut. What role does the U.N. security force currently play in southern Lebanon? What does it mean if they go away? They're a buffer between... Whoops. We all get phone calls on the air once in a while. That's all right. Go ahead. So they're a buffer behind the blue line demarcated between Israel and Lebanon. So they've been over time, you know, tried to keep Hezbollah out of that area. But if they go away, I mean, it could be, and if the Lebanese army does not come in, that means a prolonged Israeli occupation.
1:07:05One last question on this. For decades, one of the key problems here has been the Lebanese army's ability to police and secure its own territory against a muscular Hezbollah backed by Iran. And of course, Israel says, look, any country that had rockets by the thousands pouring into its territory would make an incursion into the neighbors to put a stop to it. And if the Lebanese army had the ability to do it, we wouldn't have to. How far is the Lebanese army from that dream? Not far. I mean, I don't want to go into an existential debate about Lebanon and how the state was founded that the Lebanese army would remain weak and the focus would be on the banking sector and the economy.
1:07:46That's 70s, 80s. We went into civil war. That'll be in your book. Where we are now is the talk is more, do you bring an international force to help the Lebanese army? Because the Lebanese army, despite help from the U.S., from the U.K., from France, is still not capable. And there is the sectarian balance within the Lebanese army in Lebanon. You have one third that are Shia that they don't want to fight Hezbollah. So all these sensitivities come into play. But you need Israel to play a game, to play ball with you after the elections to find some sort of international arrangement that would replace UNIFO.
1:08:21Abby? Yeah, I mean, I think it's really hard to say. I mean, the Lebanese forces, I think, probably have a long way to go still. Israel certainly believes they do. Yeah. And I mean, just, you know, there, as Joyce said, we could get into an existential discussion of Lebanon's history. But, you know, Israel has been waging war, these periodic, really, really destructive wars in Lebanon for a long time. and that have the effect in many ways, while possibly not intentional, of also degrading the Lebanese armed forces by empowering Hezbollah, by giving them sort of popular support on the ground. Because Hezbollah, let's remember, you know, has in the past not just been a military force.
1:09:15It also provides – it's also a government. It's also a political party. It provides humanitarian aid. And so, you know, the government remains to be seen. The Lebanese government really needs to be able to and be empowered to go in there, provide security and services. All right. Let's move from the Middle East for the moment. We will be back to it, as we say, every week here on the Roundup. A little bit closer to home now, the trade war that President Trump launched against our friend, against Canada. It's still in high gear. And now it appears to be doing what Canada's leaders warned it would, pushing America's allies, or is it former allies now?
1:09:55I'm not sure. Closer to one another to become less dependent on the United States as a friend and a trading partner. The latest, the European Union is inviting to Canada to become its first associate member. We must urgently reimagine our partnerships. So I would like to work with you on opening the door for Canada to being the first associate member of the European Union. And there it is. That's Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission on Wednesday in Strasbourg, France, with Canada's prime minister, Mark Carney, in the front row. And here's Carney. I'm not proposing a third bloc in order to become a great power rival, only with better manners.
1:10:44All of this following U.S.-Canada trade talks, they collapsed in August, bilateral trade war, setting tariffs of up to 50 % on roughly$20 billion of goods on both sides. You've heard the list, everything from wine and auto parts, hockey sticks, American aluminum and steel, lumber, billions of dollars, not to mention the fraying of one of the world's most closest culturally language relationships from across the earth. What is the prime minister, Vera, telling Canadians and the world about this new relationship with Europe? What's the message here? I mean, as you just mentioned, they're basically saying, you know, we just can't remain overwhelmingly reliant on any country, even the United States.
1:11:31And, you know, this category that they're trying, that you mentioned with the EU, I mean, it's not even a legally defined term. It's not something that currently exists. But they're basically saying that they want much deeper integration with Europe on all of these different things, on defense, on energy, on critical minerals, AI. You know, they're never going to be able to obviously divorce themselves from the United States. It's just like way too heavily dependent. But they're looking, you know, concretely, not just in this category with the EU, but just towards European defense suppliers and different security arrangements.
1:12:01and just kind of really, again, trying to make it clear that they can't afford to be so reliant on the United States, even if some of these things that they're saying right now are purely symbolic. Abby, can you tell us a little bit more about what it might mean practically? Canada and the EU already have a close trading relationship. Associate member, is it a troll against Donald Trump and basically saying, look, we're welcoming them then in for messaging purposes? Is there a practical effect here? There is a practical effect, but this is a process. And I think they need to work out the EU and Canada, what exactly associate member means and entails.
1:12:41And this is, you know, this is the notoriously bureaucratic EU that Canada and EU leaders who are in favor of this have to navigate. That means they have to make sure that European countries are still incentivized to be part of this union while also working out an arrangement that benefits Canada and the EU. So, you know, I think this is not going to move as quickly as Carney would like it to. But I do think this is serious. Well, here's how the president reacted to Brussels announcement. Canada has been a terrible trade partner. And no, I don't see that. And if they do that, if I think it's an all a hostile act, I will put very serious tariffs or stop trading with Europe.
1:13:26This was remarkable, Joyce. This comment went with very little notice to a lot of people. But some economists I read did notice it. This was the president really threatening to hold a gun to the United States economy if he didn't get what he wants. I don't know if he meant it. What did you make of this? I mean, this is, you know, again, a self-inflicted wound by the administration. You pick a trade war with Canada, the Canadian Prime Minister of Europe swoons them. So now you're upset at the Europeans. You want to put more tariffs on them. But there is a lot of room for cooperation between Canada and the EU, especially because of the trade war that Trump launched, mainly on tech, mainly on minerals, the Arctic.
1:14:08So there is a lot that could change here because of the U.S. tension with both camps. Well, let's talk Russia and Ukraine. We do this every week here on the Roundup. Of course, they're always a stop on our tour during the International News Roundup. And with good reason, we've been doing this now for more than four and a half years because that's how long it's been since Vladimir Putin invaded the territory of Ukraine. On Monday, President Trump said on social media that both Russia and Ukraine had agreed to halt strikes on energy targets. He added this. The world's diesel price rise is mostly caused by the Russia-Ukraine war, not by Iran.
1:14:49Analysts say that's simply not true, that the war in Iran is probably a bigger factor on gasoline and diesel prices. And as we said previously here on the show, a report from the Congressional Budget Office this week blamed the war in Iran for more than 30, in fact, 40 percent of inflation, energy-driven inflation here in the United States. But back to Ukraine. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky the same day responded that he's ready to de-escalate and halt attacks on energy and critical infrastructure inside Russia only if the United States can get Russia to stop hitting Ukraine's infrastructure.
1:15:29And Zelensky's been asking for U.S. intervention like that for more than four years. Joyce, what incentive does the United States have to help negotiate now, now that the president falsely, though it seems, is now blaming the Ukraine-Russia war for high inflation? Does that change the incentive structure from the White House to do something about it? What changed in the last few days is Congress passing the Russia sanctions bill. And while that gives President Trump more tools to just sanction Russia, to put 100 percent tariffs on institutions and other corporations that deal with Russia, there is still a problem here that the president doesn't want to do it.
1:16:14And he has full discretion to how much tariffs he wants to impose. So the Trump administration, his envoys, Kushner and Woodcoff are still determined to pursue a peace deal through incentives, through carrot and stick approach with Vladimir Putin. But so far, they've been focused more on the incentives and on business deals that they could pursue with Russia. Obviously, I mean, this president wanted to end the war on day one, but it's not happening. And we still see fighting on the ground. Avera, one controversial part of this new sanctions bill that was passed, I think, to honor the late Senator Lindsey Graham, Joyce just put her finger on it.
1:16:56It gives President Trump broad new authority to issue tariffs. Now, Democrats and a few Republicans have voiced their fear that he's going to abuse that power as fond as he is of tariffs. He's already been pulled back by the Supreme Court once on his Liberation Day tariffs. What exactly does the new sanctions regime allow him to do, even if right now he says he doesn't want to use it? Right. So, I mean, lawmakers worry that this tariff authority, you know, obviously it was intended for Russia, but it could be used against other countries or even U.S. allies. It could be used against India. It gives such broad presidential discretion that, as you mentioned, effectively just hands back some of the trade powers that the courts had limited for Trump.
1:17:39And especially given how he tends to wield this as a, you know, pretty blunt weapon, you know, even even just verbally without actually enacting things whenever when he wants in order to punish foes. I think they're really quite concerned that they're basically just loosening something that will allow him to use this against whoever he wants, including allies. All right. Well, next week, all of this is going to be on the agenda, just like it is here on the Roundup. It will also be on the agenda of the United Nations General Assembly. They call it UNGA. It's the annual meeting there on the east side of Manhattan, right on the East River.
1:18:14And it happens next week. After the meeting, China's President Xi Jinping heads to Washington for a much anticipated meeting with President Trump. Avira, what's on the agenda for that meeting and how is the agenda shifting now? I mean, what isn't on the agenda, right? I mean, there's just an extraordinary number of negotiations. They're all going to be happening at once from what we can tell. You know, trade, AI, technology, Taiwan, Iran, drugs. I mean, these are all things that officials have told us are going to be on the agenda. Trade is probably the most immediate pressing issue from both sides.
1:18:48You know, the tariff truce between the U.S. and China expires in early November. So, you know, that and AI are probably going to overshadow a lot of the rest of it. But I wouldn't really expect all of this to build towards, you know, one kind of grand bargain. I think we're likely going to see a couple of kind of narrower agreements and understandings on some of the things that I just mentioned. While kind of, I guess, trying to do some kind of tune up of this, you know, we've reported that President Trump has told his cabinet members to basically take it easy. don't rock the boat, you know, you know, don't criticize China, basically, or Xi ahead of this summit.
1:19:25He wants to have a nice summit. There will be a state dinner. And we've seen a lot of them, including Secretary of State Rubio, who used to be or is in some ways the China hawk, really kind of bite his tongue when asked about a lot of these things ahead of the summit. So we'll see if all of that actually, I guess, bears fruit, whether that was worth it and whether they're actually going, you know, how productive this summit is actually going to be. Abby, a friendly summit with a nice state dinner and no contention. Is that the kind of summit that President Xi wants to have? There's plenty of writing this week about how Xi likes to play this role.
1:19:58He prefers sort of simmering relationships with no real confrontation or result. Is he playing his cards that way here? Yeah, I think so. I mean, remember this Trump famously went to Beijing, you know, just back in May. There's a lot of hype around that visit from the Americans about everything that was going to be accomplished and everything that Trump was going to take away from it. And, you know, Xi rolled out the red carpet for him there, but ultimately Trump returned with virtually nothing. And so now, you know, Trump has been talking about this visit for weeks. He's very excited to show Xi his new helipad.
1:20:35He's been talking about it a lot in the Oval Office. But in the end, you know, I think Trump has a lot that he wants from China. You know, he wants a trade deal. And if Xi can come out of this much like he did in May with this big state dinner and red carpet welcome, but without actually sort of giving anything up, compromising, then he may come away looking like the stronger leader. Okay, but let's talk about something a little bit more urgent, a lot more urgent, artificial intelligence. We've all heard the warnings from tech leaders this week that have really set off alarm bells across not just the political culture but American culture more broadly, that these systems may soon be out of control, that they act on their own, that they don't obey human instructions, that there might be a lot more at stake than just a chat GPT and Claude here.
1:21:32The president has called concerns over AI a hoax, just like he says climate change is a hoax. But climate change is real, and probably so is this risk. Now, one of the arguments, Joyce, against doing anything to slow down AI is that we're in an arms race with China. Either they get to superintelligence first or we get to superintelligence first, and it's better if it's us, despite the dangers. How much can we rely on this summit coming to any substantive agreement or any progress on an issue that the tech leaders themselves say is very, very urgent? So the good news is both, I mean, the mainstream political establishment in the US and in China, they agree that there should be some regulatory framework over AI.
1:22:21China agrees too. China agrees too. She gave a speech in July just about AI arguing for a regulatory framework. Obviously, China, you know, being a communist, oppressive country, they mean by it more state control. They mean by it just clamping down on usage of AI. But there is room for China and the U.S. to work together on AI regulatory framework when it comes to military misuse, cyber risks, preventing big accidents or attacks. So there is room there. But the way China sees AI is still different from the U.S. And it wants more state control. Abby, I noticed reports in the New York Times this week.
1:23:07I'm not the only one who noticed. It was on the front page. That spy chief in the PRC was also warning that AI threatens party and state control in China. That seemed meant to get the Chinese attention and to show people there might be, you know, mutual interest here between the United States and China to get on top of this issue. Yeah, so it's interesting. I was actually on Capitol Hill yesterday and I was talking to senators from both parties about this and I was hearing a couple of different things from Democrats, obviously, a lot more concerns, people saying we need to reach some sort of agreement with China to get this under control.
1:23:47And I've heard the argument much in the same way that the U.S. and the Soviet Union agreed to rein in nuclear power during the Cold War or at the end of the Cold War. And so, you know, there's this sense also, you know, from AI experts, some AI experts, that, you know, it doesn't really matter in this supposed arms race if China develops the most advanced AI or the U.S. does without restraint that either country's AI could ultimately jump the boundaries, so to speak. It's measles. Anybody can catch it. Exactly. And we've already seen it happening, right, in these recent breakouts that have been documented in the U.S.
1:24:33And so, you know, I also heard, I'll just add from Republicans, some expressions that, you know what, China is not a good faith actor. We can't trust them. And so, you know, some pessimism that we're not going to be able to get a deal with them. So we'll see. Pessimism also may be when the president himself says the entire concern is a hoax, just like climate change. That's also an area of concern. I want to talk about Taiwan. We could do a whole show on Taiwan and China and the United States, but let's make sure we touch on it because it's important. This is decades old, Vera. Taiwan operates as a self-ruling democracy.
1:25:09Of course, China says it's ours. The United States has treaded a gray zone here for many, many decades. There's some concern among allies and analysts now about what President Trump might do if Xi presses him on Taiwan at this summit next week. That's right. I mean, I think the fear isn't that Trump is going to recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan, but it's this slow erosion of the deterrence that has existed for a long time with U.S. leaders, right? I think the thing that I keep thinking of is, you know, he called arms sales to President Trump, called arms sales to Taiwan a negotiating chip and has just been kind of very blunt about how he sees that.
1:25:47And I think that's something that's really concerned allies. You know, these arms packages that have been held up and have been awaiting approval. You know, he's basically saying that he could trade some element of U.S. support for Taiwan, possibly for economic concessions from Xi or something else. But just the way his rhetoric around it has really concerned allies quite a bit. And, you know, we obviously never get full clarity into what's discussed behind closed doors between these leaders. So I think just, you know, given how transactional he is and his track record, I think people are quite concerned.
1:26:17And given how, you know, how invested he is, as we've been saying, and having this really friendly, warm rapport with Xi, like there's just a lot that could potentially go wrong there. Well, I want to make sure you know that on Tuesday, we're going to dig more into the Xi Trump summit, the stakes and the diplomatic relationships between Washington and Beijing. And we'd love to hear your thoughts. What do you think should be on top of the agenda for these two superpowers next week? What questions do you have about the upcoming meeting? You can leave us a voicemail, 855-236-1212. Or you can send us an audio file through our app, 1A VoxPop, which is great.
1:26:54It gets your voice here. on the air here on 1A, and you can hear that conversation, Washington, Beijing, the United States, and China here on the show on Tuesday. Well, ahead of the meeting next week, President Trump is also downplaying reports that Iran used Chinese satellite images to plan an attack that killed three U.S. troops at a base in Jordan in July. We talked earlier in the show about the Iran-backed Houthi rebels, their advances along the Red Sea that are threatening Saudi Arabian oil imports. But, Vera, that's bad news for China, too. China relies on oil from the Middle East. On Thursday, China pressed Iran privately to rein in the Houthi rebels that Joyce so aptly described in their advances along the axis there with Saudi Arabia.
1:27:43That's according to reporting from Reuters. What kind of leverage does China have here? What kind of role could China play in de-escalation in a war that is clearly expanding? Right. I mean, China has something that obviously the U.S. and most other countries don't have or don't have to that degree, which is really significant economic leverage and, you know, somewhat of a more open political relationship in a way to talk to them. But to your point, I mean, you know, first of all, it uses that leverage very differently from the United States. I mean, you know, as we've seen, especially under the Trump administration, They will rely much more on sanctions, you know, ending civilization kind of language.
1:28:23We will bomb you into the Stone Age. China tends to do, you know, behind closed doors, quiet diplomacy, like different kinds of economic leverage on Iran. And as you've said, I mean, they're not doing this as a favor to the Trump administration or to Washington. They have a very practical reason. They need Middle Eastern energy. So, you know, they do have some, you know, quite, I guess, a significant amount of leverage, and they are likely to use it if it benefits them, which it likely will. Well, Vera, we got to go. We have just a couple of moments here, but I want you to describe. You were just on a trip with Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, through Latin America.
1:28:58He's moving millions of dollars in military assistance from Slovakia, North Macedonia, Tunisia, Iraq, to other places around the Western Hemisphere, other areas of U.S. influence. We just have just a quick moment. What do we need to know about how these funds are going to be used? That's right. I think the thing to know is that they're basically building the sprawling military alliance with Trump-friendly governments where they're just going to do joint operations with the U.S. in order to go after, to basically expand Trump's drug war. So I think we can expect to see a lot more money being pulled from some areas to Latin America.
1:29:32And I think just this morning we're seeing reports of actual, you know, aircraft and other weapons basically being sent there, pulled from Africa, pulled from the Middle East. And I think we're going to see a really active kinetic, you know, uptake in these operations in Latin America as they really make good on their promise to go after these drug cartels and criminal groups. New money for right-wing Trump-friendly governments in Latin America. That's Vera Bergen-Gruen of The Wall Street Journal. I want to thank Abby Hasloiner of The Financial Times and Joyce Karam of All Monitor. Mike Kidd is our sound designer and engineer with help this week from Kellen Quigley.
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